of course these are genius drum parts. i also love these as a teaching system for myself to think melodically within a tune. and especially to keep my open-handed chops up. try this groove at 140 or 160 where your LH is more like 16th at 70 or 80. gets pretty interesting & i am trying to work this up to 200.
I remember hearing a drum solo of Steve's from a TV concert back when I was 12 years old or so, his playing just had something to it others didn't and then I heard him with Tony McAlpine years later playing a lot heavier. He has such a consistent ability to rock the pulse that doesn't get in the way of the music and propels the song with a monster feel. Been following his career ever since.
THANK YOU! THANK YOU SO MUCH!!!! IT ALL MAKES SENSE!!! On such short notice, my friends wanted me to play this song on drums for the spring concert at our school. On top of that, I just started in percussion, but I learn pretty fast. First I tried making up a simple beat that fits, but when i listened to the song, I wanted to sound like the real thing. I had it all wrong, but you herlped me figure it all out. THANKS!!!!!!!!!
if you're hats on your right and snare on your left and want to switch it up try starting with a tambourine in your left hand it really gets you started rather than struggling on drums first
I've witnessed Steve in concert for about 3 decades and he's truly a masterful drummer... he doesn't just play, he creates an atmosphere for the song.
i probably watched this video and listened to the song 100 times before i got the song right and after a lil while i put my own spin on it. The video will come up as soon as i find the cord to my camera but steve smith is probably my biggest insperation to drumming
Some other open handed AMAZING drummers -- Carter Beauford, Simon Phillips, Will Kennedy, Mike Bordin. I have played that way for 30 years and have taught it for 12. Especially with new drummers starting from scratch, there is absolutely no reason to need to cross over the hands. I think in general it is done with the symmetry idea -- right hand, right foot, but if one trains early to switch that it OPENS UP the entire kit.
@bugernet it started from way back when they didnt have hi hats , they just had the ride a crash a splash and what not then came the hi hat but it was only played by foot a hinged type contraption soi was on the left side cuz most guys played bass with the right foot ANYWAYZ they had been doin their rythm patterns on the ride which was on the right then when the "sock cymbal " became the hi hat on a stand they just crossed over their arm cuz the rythym patterns were kinda programed
One thing you have to remember is there are also alot of drummers who play traditional grip (Smith being one of them). so it necessitates crossing of hands.
Bobby Jarzombek and Gene Hoglan are two others who play open-handed. Though Gene is a thrash-metal drummer, he still pulls off some very intricate stuff that, I think, is only helped by the fact he plays open-handed.
I'm going to disagree. There are absolutely MANY reasons to not start open-handed as a brand new beginner. The most important one - fun. A new drummer wants to have fun. Telling a brand new drummer on their first day you want them to play open-handed and forget everything they know, is not fun. I only teach what the student wants to learn. Otherwise it's a fruitless exercise.
How can a new student "forget everything they know" if they don't know anything yet? I never force a student into any style of playing. What I do show new students, however, is that one can use either hand to lead. Some stick with that way, some don't. But I never insist or force a left hand lead. I just personally believe it has its advantages, and many of my students have developed their own playing style around it.
That's fine. I agree with open handed playing having it's advantages as well as being a good learning/ambidextrous effect.
What I don't agree with is thinking a new student "knows nothing".
Even the entry-level beginner, which we've all been, knows SOMETHING and that something usually begins with crossing the hands over on the drumset and playing the snare on two and four, for example..
I believe you are just assuming a new student will play a certain way because he or she SEES someone else play that way. There are no rules to playing an instrument. Are you going to tell Carmine Appice he is wrong because he holds one of his sticks between his first and second finger? Of course not. It is the way he developed his own unique playing style. It's not arrogance to present students with alternate ways of approaching an instrument.
@PositivelyBored Dude, you sound like a dumb mofo "expert"....others here have had success with open handed playing, so quit being a whiner about this.
eh.. i am an open-handed drummer as well. the premise was that most beginners don't want to learn it, so i typically do not mention it. If a student comes to me and says "hey can you show me this" I'll gladly give them direction about setting up the kit , and rhythms that are interesting to practice. of course most of it comes from basic rudiment and patterns leading with lh in unison or independently of the bd/rh. again, open handed concept is crucial further along
@percman1970 your exactly true. but i play traditional grip. and i prefer to use my (left hand) traditional on the snare. can you explain how to open that up. because the only way is to play on left handed kit which is too late for that. i hope you understand my situation
I met Steve at a clinic in 1986 and still to this day utilize lessons taught at that clinic! He is a very open and honest musician , willing to share information and ideas without reservation. I have been, and always will be a fan for life of my friend Steve Smith! His extraordinary talent and grace as a musician and a human being are an inspiration everyone should learn from. Thank you for posting this great video!
@michaelc383 i met Steve at a Sam Ash clinic. WOW ,hearing & seeing Steve play right in front of u is a real treat to say the least. I agree with everything u said! May i also add he is really a nice guy! I had him sign my Roland TD-7 module : D
@michaelc383 I was at a clinic of his same year in Fitchburg, Mass. Even back then he was so good I couldn't get back behind my kit for months aftewards cuz I was depressed.
OPEN HANDED DRUMMERS RULE!!! i find its the smart way to go, when u think about it, ur hi hat is on the left and ur snare to the right...so why cross ur arms? lol glad to hear there are more open handed drummers ^.^
@bambionsteroids its so your right hand plays in time with your bass drum while you can experimetn with cross rhythms on the snare, but in my opinion there are some songs that suit open handed drumming and some which suit cross handed drumming, you just have to experiment and see which is best for the particular song you are playing
@TheImpressionable wow i didnt even remember writting on this video lol but yah i started playing close handed a while back since i had to play in this show where the other drummers kit was...well a close handed set up i suppose, and we had no time to swap kits or any room for improvement, so i started playin around with that ^.^
im really glad that you posted this video, as i can tell this is gonna really help me out with my drumming. Its nice to know that even the best start with the basics, and then slowly build it up to the perfect beat.
Noob drummer question. Why does Steve Smith look like he is playing eighth notes on the bass when he is really just playing quarter notes. I am sure it is just him keeping time but why the extra movement with the right leg?
i really like playing this song. but i play the hihat part with my left foot doing 8th notes. so its easier to do more with the hands. just my opinion.
Thanks ROR for sending this my way. I always thought Steve Smith was very talented on the drums. He has a drum solo on the Journey Houston Concert on dvd. Also on that solo, it really showcases his drums.
I've always loved watching him play the drums for Journey... I've wondered how he could keep the beat going with Steve dancing all over the place and standing in front of him while Neal was doing his thing. He is an excellent drummer! Thanks for posting this video, it was very interesting.
Very, very cool. I often wondered how he'd incorporate some of his beats into Journey's music. I guess that explains alot of it! Thanks for sharing this!
Hey i grew up with him nice guy
CJM4430 1 month ago
HAIR !
CoolThisIsMyUsername 2 months ago
Awesome ,, just awesome.
enok1968 3 months ago
of course these are genius drum parts. i also love these as a teaching system for myself to think melodically within a tune. and especially to keep my open-handed chops up. try this groove at 140 or 160 where your LH is more like 16th at 70 or 80. gets pretty interesting & i am trying to work this up to 200.
ggill1970 4 months ago
That was great. Thanks for posting it.
nakedtommygun 5 months ago
A genius. I'm just sad he had to lose his hair... Now he looks like Howie Mandel. No, wait. Howie Mandel looks like him.
MrHeitz17 6 months ago
@MrHeitz17 Who the fuck cares if he lost his hair....he's still a great drummer. Man dude, you are a fucking moron.
meccaturbo 4 months ago
Bitchin glasses
dduem 7 months ago
HAIRRRRRRRRRRRR...LOLOLOLOLOLOL
Kidzanda 9 months ago
God he sure makes it look easy!
VoicesEchoes1 10 months ago
I remember hearing a drum solo of Steve's from a TV concert back when I was 12 years old or so, his playing just had something to it others didn't and then I heard him with Tony McAlpine years later playing a lot heavier. He has such a consistent ability to rock the pulse that doesn't get in the way of the music and propels the song with a monster feel. Been following his career ever since.
geometricpatterns6 10 months ago
Damn...I always wondered how he did that without missing a beat on the hat. Now I know.
firstmusic00 10 months ago
THANK YOU! THANK YOU SO MUCH!!!! IT ALL MAKES SENSE!!! On such short notice, my friends wanted me to play this song on drums for the spring concert at our school. On top of that, I just started in percussion, but I learn pretty fast. First I tried making up a simple beat that fits, but when i listened to the song, I wanted to sound like the real thing. I had it all wrong, but you herlped me figure it all out. THANKS!!!!!!!!!
Queeze101 11 months ago
if you're hats on your right and snare on your left and want to switch it up try starting with a tambourine in your left hand it really gets you started rather than struggling on drums first
ThrowingItAway 1 year ago
How does one achieve that 80's snare sound? Is it just incredibly gated? Snare drum does not sound like that.
larzaify 1 year ago
@larzaify Mostly it's just a really low tuning, miced.
Bananapuddinpie 1 year ago
@larzaify Mostly it's just a really low tuning, wooden snare, miced.
Bananapuddinpie 1 year ago
Charts please....more easier..i wanna sight read it
TheDice2008 1 year ago
He's a Drumming Legend
FirebrandNIRE 1 year ago
Is this when he was a math teacher?
spacitydrummer4JC 1 year ago
what a nerd! hahahaha
Billnipp1 1 year ago
@Billnipp1 The coolest nerd ever.
kevinwbrowning 1 year ago
I've witnessed Steve in concert for about 3 decades and he's truly a masterful drummer... he doesn't just play, he creates an atmosphere for the song.
lastdaysguitar 1 year ago
By the way he plays the song, you really get the feeling of how playing open handed can open the the kit.
TheImpressionable 1 year ago
Steve smith is so damn good its scares me. He seems so humble and doesnt mess around with image and stuff he just wants to make good music.
Aaronjiski 1 year ago
its a BBBBEEEAUUT!
Aaronjiski 1 year ago
i probably watched this video and listened to the song 100 times before i got the song right and after a lil while i put my own spin on it. The video will come up as soon as i find the cord to my camera but steve smith is probably my biggest insperation to drumming
Squishay1 1 year ago
God, he makes that look so easy.
jackcasse 1 year ago
his ride sounds cracked to hell
TobacCigO 1 year ago
Steve you are an artist!!!! only someone like you can make a masterpiece like this on drums.
Great song and great fills.
Nothing more to say......
enzymetab 1 year ago
thanks for what you did with this tune on drums -- the drum part always amazes me, it really completes a classic song
zuzanarox 1 year ago
omg i never knew Trevor Horn played drums! Hes pretty good too.
dwilmer7 1 year ago
Some other open handed AMAZING drummers -- Carter Beauford, Simon Phillips, Will Kennedy, Mike Bordin. I have played that way for 30 years and have taught it for 12. Especially with new drummers starting from scratch, there is absolutely no reason to need to cross over the hands. I think in general it is done with the symmetry idea -- right hand, right foot, but if one trains early to switch that it OPENS UP the entire kit.
percman1970 1 year ago 5
@percman1970 Makes a lot of sense ! Starting from the very greats they put the hi-hat on the right and that's how we all do it... Good point!
bugernet 1 year ago
@bugernet i love being able to switch between both. traditional grip i cross, match i play open.
obtom1331 1 year ago
@bugernet it started from way back when they didnt have hi hats , they just had the ride a crash a splash and what not then came the hi hat but it was only played by foot a hinged type contraption soi was on the left side cuz most guys played bass with the right foot ANYWAYZ they had been doin their rythm patterns on the ride which was on the right then when the "sock cymbal " became the hi hat on a stand they just crossed over their arm cuz the rythym patterns were kinda programed
SOUTHPAW731 1 year ago
One thing you have to remember is there are also alot of drummers who play traditional grip (Smith being one of them). so it necessitates crossing of hands.
BassmanII 1 year ago
@BassmanII i must point out Lenny White plays trad grip and plays open handed.
fess04 1 year ago
@percman1970
Bobby Jarzombek and Gene Hoglan are two others who play open-handed. Though Gene is a thrash-metal drummer, he still pulls off some very intricate stuff that, I think, is only helped by the fact he plays open-handed.
lupine73 1 year ago
@percman1970 i kind of agree. But i think you should learn both
w9jon 1 year ago
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wmjoca 1 year ago
@percman1970
I'm going to disagree. There are absolutely MANY reasons to not start open-handed as a brand new beginner. The most important one - fun. A new drummer wants to have fun. Telling a brand new drummer on their first day you want them to play open-handed and forget everything they know, is not fun. I only teach what the student wants to learn. Otherwise it's a fruitless exercise.
PositivelyBored 1 year ago
@PositivelyBored
How can a new student "forget everything they know" if they don't know anything yet? I never force a student into any style of playing. What I do show new students, however, is that one can use either hand to lead. Some stick with that way, some don't. But I never insist or force a left hand lead. I just personally believe it has its advantages, and many of my students have developed their own playing style around it.
percman1970 1 year ago
@percman1970
That's fine. I agree with open handed playing having it's advantages as well as being a good learning/ambidextrous effect.
What I don't agree with is thinking a new student "knows nothing".
Even the entry-level beginner, which we've all been, knows SOMETHING and that something usually begins with crossing the hands over on the drumset and playing the snare on two and four, for example..
to think otherwise is pretty arrogant, I think.
PositivelyBored 1 year ago
@PositivelyBored
I believe you are just assuming a new student will play a certain way because he or she SEES someone else play that way. There are no rules to playing an instrument. Are you going to tell Carmine Appice he is wrong because he holds one of his sticks between his first and second finger? Of course not. It is the way he developed his own unique playing style. It's not arrogance to present students with alternate ways of approaching an instrument.
percman1970 1 year ago
@PositivelyBored Dude, you sound like a dumb mofo "expert"....others here have had success with open handed playing, so quit being a whiner about this.
meccaturbo 4 months ago
@meccaturbo
eh.. i am an open-handed drummer as well. the premise was that most beginners don't want to learn it, so i typically do not mention it. If a student comes to me and says "hey can you show me this" I'll gladly give them direction about setting up the kit , and rhythms that are interesting to practice. of course most of it comes from basic rudiment and patterns leading with lh in unison or independently of the bd/rh. again, open handed concept is crucial further along
PositivelyBored 4 months ago
@PositivelyBored Ok, my mistake.
meccaturbo 4 months ago
@percman1970 your exactly true. but i play traditional grip. and i prefer to use my (left hand) traditional on the snare. can you explain how to open that up. because the only way is to play on left handed kit which is too late for that. i hope you understand my situation
carlos0on0drums 1 year ago
@percman1970,U forgot the one who actually started this whole open handed drumming thing The Great BILLY COBHAM.
jazzfusionsoul 1 year ago
@percman1970 don't forget billy cobham
thomascompton800 1 year ago
@percman1970 you forgot Mr Billy Cobham
poulter5150 7 months ago
I met Steve at a clinic in 1986 and still to this day utilize lessons taught at that clinic! He is a very open and honest musician , willing to share information and ideas without reservation. I have been, and always will be a fan for life of my friend Steve Smith! His extraordinary talent and grace as a musician and a human being are an inspiration everyone should learn from. Thank you for posting this great video!
michaelc383 1 year ago
@michaelc383 i met Steve at a Sam Ash clinic. WOW ,hearing & seeing Steve play right in front of u is a real treat to say the least. I agree with everything u said! May i also add he is really a nice guy! I had him sign my Roland TD-7 module : D
bugernet 1 year ago
@michaelc383 I was at a clinic of his same year in Fitchburg, Mass. Even back then he was so good I couldn't get back behind my kit for months aftewards cuz I was depressed.
marty3699 1 year ago
amazing!
TheAlexBing 2 years ago
yeah! and people say why do I play with my left hand. thats why ! ;D
EipasStas 2 years ago 3
I play the same way! Everybody says, 'You're doing it wrong!', my reply is, 'Did it sound good?' 'Yes, it sounded fine', 'Then what's wrong?'
RaisedOnRadio92 2 years ago
If ur play'n this tune the way Steve is play'n it on this video, then tell'em to put a sock in it LOL !
bugernet 2 years ago
OPEN HANDED DRUMMERS RULE!!! i find its the smart way to go, when u think about it, ur hi hat is on the left and ur snare to the right...so why cross ur arms? lol glad to hear there are more open handed drummers ^.^
bambionsteroids 1 year ago
@bambionsteroids I play hi-hat with my right but u should learn to play open hand ! AGREE......
bugernet 1 year ago
@bambionsteroids its so your right hand plays in time with your bass drum while you can experimetn with cross rhythms on the snare, but in my opinion there are some songs that suit open handed drumming and some which suit cross handed drumming, you just have to experiment and see which is best for the particular song you are playing
TheImpressionable 1 year ago
@TheImpressionable wow i didnt even remember writting on this video lol but yah i started playing close handed a while back since i had to play in this show where the other drummers kit was...well a close handed set up i suppose, and we had no time to swap kits or any room for improvement, so i started playin around with that ^.^
bambionsteroids 1 year ago
@bambionsteroids open hand is an amazing way to play! but steve is normally close-handed, but dsb is incredibly hard to play closed handed!
thejohnlaco 1 year ago
WOw!! Steve smith with hair!!! This man is one of my favorite drummers!! He looks funny with that glasses xD..... big big big musician!!!
mikport 2 years ago 3
I take it you never saw him in his Journey days?? ;) XD
BassmanII 2 years ago
he is the man!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
bugernet 2 years ago
@mikport ... at the time this video was being made a lot of drummers were wearing these same style glasses .. vinnie for example
sweetfly66 2 years ago
Very funny glasses!
One of my favorite drummers ...
marcinnsz 2 years ago
Steve Smith... WOW!
All I knew about Steve until a few years ago was the solid rock drumming from Journey,
My drummer friend showed me a video of Steve playing jazz with the Buddy Rich Band... I was floored!
Steve is truly a GREAT MUSICIAN!
frankenshank 2 years ago
Magic
Sincopare 2 years ago
Steve's got such a great feel. I hear the intro when he plays this groove. Love 80's glasses, shirt, and snare sound.
mimicry88 2 years ago
he'da man 4 sure! he should have been on the top 10 best dressed list : D
bugernet 2 years ago
nice crash i hate people who over use that crash
Legokink1 2 years ago
Thanks for posting and sharing the infomation. Can use this in my drum lessons.
Scottjazz55 2 years ago
steve smith is truly a great drummer...but man, is he a nerd.....he kinda has that Paul Schaefer look thing happening in this clip...
rwoods2k 2 years ago 2
The clip is over 20 years old. You probably weren't born at that time. He was a genius then and now. Who cares what he looks like.
webstercat 2 years ago 13
not only was I alive 20 years ago, I was playing drums 20 years ago. thank you very much
rwoods2k 2 years ago
He looks like a Howie Mendel clone now - or almost like an Anton Lavey Satanist lol...
metalmike83 2 years ago
Na, he jazzed his look up,at least when he's not play'n......
bugernet 2 years ago
Thanx! i thought people would find this post helpful........
bugernet 2 years ago
im really glad that you posted this video, as i can tell this is gonna really help me out with my drumming. Its nice to know that even the best start with the basics, and then slowly build it up to the perfect beat.
haydondres 2 years ago
Noob drummer question. Why does Steve Smith look like he is playing eighth notes on the bass when he is really just playing quarter notes. I am sure it is just him keeping time but why the extra movement with the right leg?
drjggood1 2 years ago
just helps him keep a feel for the beat, he most probably wasnt even aware he was doing it, as it comes so naturally to him.
haydondres 2 years ago
Thanx for this. I haven't seen the video in years. Still have the VHS around somewhere. Totally forgot about those red Sonorlites.
I met him shortly before this video was made, right after he was laid off from Journey. Amazing man.
DrShrinker 2 years ago 3
Glad i was able to post sum-thing of interest. I met Smith as well,he really is a great guy!
bugernet 2 years ago
Just another great drummer from Massachusetts
wmjoca 2 years ago
i really like playing this song. but i play the hihat part with my left foot doing 8th notes. so its easier to do more with the hands. just my opinion.
danbrown4life 2 years ago
Thats cool!!! try not to trounce to much over a good tune, don't over play it!.keep on drumming...
bugernet 2 years ago
This guy doesn't get nearly enough attention. He's easily one of my top 15 drummers all time
ElRico2525 2 years ago 11
The guy is so nice! im very lucky 2 have met him! sum 1 in here told me he is semi retired.the man is a powerhouse player!!!!!!
bugernet 2 years ago
@ElRico2525 i agree with you, steve smith is a great drummer, he was a big part of what help'd make journey as great as they were
angelo062367 1 year ago
damn right, "that beat takes care of business."
bea5ToloG 2 years ago
beautiful drum part. top 5 for me. "clever ways of making it more interesting...for myself & for the song itself and the listeners" = genius
ggill1970 2 years ago
I wonder why this vid has fewer views than the other drummers covering this song with the wrong ride patterns. Go to the source, I always say.
udreksuh 2 years ago 3
Smitty rules but he looks like he's wearing Groucho Marx funny glasses
michaelisajerk 2 years ago
Jees! he looks like a real nerdy dude in this.
sanshuz 2 years ago
I always thought he flammed on the toms but it turns out it's an illusion with the bass drum and the tom hit together! Steve is a genius!
gooberschnot 3 years ago
don't stop believing is coming to rock band as DLC soon.
w1104717 2 years ago
The off beat ride is sick.
sanshuz 3 years ago
I wish he was my dad. . :-)
juniperhill1970 3 years ago
yeah Steves son is LUCKY!
bugernet 3 years ago
he has a house up here in Oregon (i've heard it's in Ashland) I went to the closest guitar center (medford) and I guess I had just missed him
sgtpepper1138 3 years ago
Wow 2 bad u just missed seeing Steve he is really a nice guy!!!!!!
bugernet 3 years ago
I'm really looking forward to the songs!!
grunnfunk 3 years ago
I've got 1 ready 2 upload so look 4 it in the next day or 2.Y/T is wig'n on uploads right now...
bugernet 3 years ago
Would be nice if the instrumental songs of Vital Information, from his old drum video, were on youtube, somebody?
grunnfunk 3 years ago
I think i can help u here!
bugernet 3 years ago
thats amaizing
i like it and he's the best XD
xxdarkdevilxxi 3 years ago
He is and i have more on the way...
bugernet 3 years ago
Very interesting video. Thanks ROR for sending me the link!
VeriSheri 3 years ago
Nice, Smitty!
mistifers 3 years ago
Smitty is the best :)
bugernet 3 years ago
Thank you for sharing this with me very cool to see!!
REDDATT302008 3 years ago
any time! I think im gonna post more of this.every one seems to like it...
bugernet 3 years ago
Interesting!
Thanks ROR for sending this my way. I always thought Steve Smith was very talented on the drums. He has a drum solo on the Journey Houston Concert on dvd. Also on that solo, it really showcases his drums.
katnip9 3 years ago
Steve is one of a kind! im gonns post more of this...
bugernet 3 years ago
I've always loved watching him play the drums for Journey... I've wondered how he could keep the beat going with Steve dancing all over the place and standing in front of him while Neal was doing his thing. He is an excellent drummer! Thanks for posting this video, it was very interesting.
Jeanne2U 3 years ago
When Journey was Journey I would have loved to be on that stage!
bugernet 3 years ago
This was brilliant to see Smitty in action at his finest. Wow - the guy can rock the skins!
Thanks for this JJ.- this was so cool!
Gallagrl 3 years ago
Very, very cool. I often wondered how he'd incorporate some of his beats into Journey's music. I guess that explains alot of it! Thanks for sharing this!
RaisedOnRadio92 3 years ago
Very interesting. Thanks for passing this along. Steve Smith is an excellent drummer!!
beakys 3 years ago
Ever one seems 2 like this video i will have 2 post more!
bugernet 3 years ago
Very interesting post JJ. I like how he is allowed to create within a basic foundation. Freedom of expression is what all drummers want!
Do you have drum clinic vids of Steve Smith?
LouddrummerO 3 years ago
that was cool and steve doesn't even look like himself. he looks way "cooler" now. lol
hughman174 3 years ago
Yeah he does. But he's 1 heck of a drumming FORCE!!!!
bugernet 3 years ago