Also, make sure to mention somewhere that this is the "Vega Force" VFC PDW and not the "Elite force" There's a little confusion on the web about the differences.
Groupings, yeah, standard VFC stuff... So above average AEG ver2 one piece hopup performance. Air seal and FPS consistency all quite good. Nothing to write home about.
I wish I could give exact numbers but the gun was modified substantially so no longer possible.
With a good high torque (I'm using a G&P M160) motor and a 7.4V 30C lipo, I get super fast trigger response to the point a MOSFET really becomes unnecessary.
i'm thinking of getting the dboys spr grip for it and wondering if it would work with the motor it comes with as far as size. if you could suggest any that have the finger groove type style and would work would be welcome and appreciated, however.
The stock motor is specific to the gun, it will not fit with a regular M4 grip. If you intend to change the grip, you will need to change the motor to a standard long axis motor.
The stock motor is a high speed, long axis motor that's a little shorter than a normal one to accommodate the short grip
really? that is interesting. because evike has a jg one and i almost bought it...lol it is cheaper and appears to be the same thing, but under the JG/AEG brand...is evike lying?
There are 3 known clones of the VFC version (it's a very very popular model) and NONE of them are JG. Evike probably just labelled them wrong, happens all the time
@Ecthelion008 true but if you went with a lower torque motor would it still be able to pull back the spring because you said that you have an m135 in it
@Ecthelion008 well i was going to have it so i could the charging wire in a way so i could pull it through the wholes to charge it and i work on alot of guns so dis-assmbly is not a problem
You could do it that way. My best friend does, but he completely removes the gas block not just the gas tubes. This makes the gun look less realistic but it also means that if you have a lipo accident, you can quickly rip out the battery and not just have it start melting your gun
Excellent review. Thanks for taking the time to do it. May I ask you what model and brand is your mini reflex sight? It looks like a Swiss Arms Micro Dot Sight but I am not sure. Thanks!
@Ecthelion008 It could be either a Swiss Arms, an Element or an NC Star mini reflex sight.. The NC Star has a log on the front (the face closer to the muzzle). The Swiss Arms seems to have no logos whatsoever and so does the element one. There are a number of other manufacturer who have no brands on their mini reflex sights. Both the Swiss Arms or NC Star seem to be among the top of mini reflex sights makers.
yes it can, however make sure you pair that battery with a M120 spring or above (M140 if you switch to Deans connectors)
With Deans connectors on a M130 spring, my gun double shoots on semi-auto since the cyclic rate is too high. That's one of the reasons I stepped it down to a 7.4
Garbage review, if you are going to go into the internals. Then go into the internals. Don't just talk about them.
Bigtr33z 5 hours ago
But still a great review!
Also, make sure to mention somewhere that this is the "Vega Force" VFC PDW and not the "Elite force" There's a little confusion on the web about the differences.
hanky1324 6 days ago in playlist Uploaded videos
K few things-
1. Love the way you say "aluminum" Just so weird!
2. Don't worry about scratching your little baby there, although its a toy a little character is a good thing.
3. We're not here to here about your reflex sight, we want to know; internals/performance. Leave accessories for another video.
4. What reason is there to remove the battery every time you charge your gun? Just leave it in, less hassle.
5. +1 on the deans
6. you never actually hit on performance- groupings, range, etc
hanky1324 6 days ago in playlist Uploaded videos
@hanky1324
Groupings, yeah, standard VFC stuff... So above average AEG ver2 one piece hopup performance. Air seal and FPS consistency all quite good. Nothing to write home about.
I wish I could give exact numbers but the gun was modified substantially so no longer possible.
Ecthelion008 5 days ago
what c are the lipos that u are using and have u installed a mosfet
macmac2851 2 weeks ago
@macmac2851 No MOSFET, 30C
With a good high torque (I'm using a G&P M160) motor and a 7.4V 30C lipo, I get super fast trigger response to the point a MOSFET really becomes unnecessary.
Ecthelion008 2 weeks ago
i'm thinking of getting the dboys spr grip for it and wondering if it would work with the motor it comes with as far as size. if you could suggest any that have the finger groove type style and would work would be welcome and appreciated, however.
XjesstenX 2 months ago
@XjesstenX
The stock motor is specific to the gun, it will not fit with a regular M4 grip. If you intend to change the grip, you will need to change the motor to a standard long axis motor.
The stock motor is a high speed, long axis motor that's a little shorter than a normal one to accommodate the short grip
Ecthelion008 2 months ago
@Ecthelion008 alright thanks... i guess i'll just use a pachmayr slip-on grip instead.
XjesstenX 2 months ago
do you know of any aftermarket pistol grips that are the appropriate size for the motor?
XjesstenX 2 months ago
is the jg/AEG version just a clone of the VFC one?
GroundGravy 3 months ago
@GroundGravy
DBoys, not JG
and yes, it's a clone... almost, a few very minor difference, and the overall fit and finish different too
Ecthelion008 3 months ago
@Ecthelion008
really? that is interesting. because evike has a jg one and i almost bought it...lol it is cheaper and appears to be the same thing, but under the JG/AEG brand...is evike lying?
GroundGravy 3 months ago
@GroundGravy
There are 3 known clones of the VFC version (it's a very very popular model) and NONE of them are JG. Evike probably just labelled them wrong, happens all the time
Ecthelion008 3 months ago
@Ecthelion008 no me they can get sued for naming the gun the same
sniperalexander248 2 months ago
could you use a mosfet to stop the 2 round burst with semi or is it just momentum with the motor and gears
spritegamer 3 months ago
@spritegamer Good question, a MOSFET would solve the issue.
Either that or simply using either a stronger spring, or a lower torque motor
Ecthelion008 3 months ago
@Ecthelion008 true but if you went with a lower torque motor would it still be able to pull back the spring because you said that you have an m135 in it
spritegamer 3 months ago
mine shoots around 400-410 out of the box
johnnyreferseed 4 months ago
what connector does it come with for the battery i couldnt make out what you were saying !?
B3NN3TTxD 4 months ago in playlist More videos from Ecthelion008
@TacticalAirsoft13
original PEQ box fits, not surprisingly a PEQ sized LIPO
Ecthelion008 5 months ago
can u fit a lopo inside the upper recever im going to get this gun and i was just wondering
johnnyreferseed 5 months ago
@johnnyreferseed
Been discussed in the comments, answer is yes, but highly not recommended. Requires dis-assembly to install/remove
Ecthelion008 5 months ago
@Ecthelion008 well i was going to have it so i could the charging wire in a way so i could pull it through the wholes to charge it and i work on alot of guns so dis-assmbly is not a problem
johnnyreferseed 5 months ago
@johnnyreferseed
You could do it that way. My best friend does, but he completely removes the gas block not just the gas tubes. This makes the gun look less realistic but it also means that if you have a lipo accident, you can quickly rip out the battery and not just have it start melting your gun
Ecthelion008 5 months ago
Is there a fuse on this gun ??
diverrk 5 months ago
would you recommend this over a kwa sr10?
davidliu91 6 months ago
what parts should i upgrade if i want to use a m125 spring
CoolBendyStraws 7 months ago
Excellent review. Thanks for taking the time to do it. May I ask you what model and brand is your mini reflex sight? It looks like a Swiss Arms Micro Dot Sight but I am not sure. Thanks!
sr5tactical 7 months ago
is it worth it to upgrade to the stock inner barrel with a 6.01 or 6.03 mm diameter i heard the stock barrel has a 6.04mm
CoolBendyStraws 7 months ago
@CoolBendyStraws
Honestly a barrel upgrade does not do much for accuracy especially if the stock one is already decent (which this one is).
I run a 303mm 6.04mm Prometheus through mine just cause I had one lying around.
Ecthelion008 7 months ago
is that a NC STAR red dot or a different brand
WoundDragon 9 months ago
@WoundDragon
Really wish I knew the brand. I just got it out of a black box, unmarked.
Ecthelion008 9 months ago
@Ecthelion008 It could be either a Swiss Arms, an Element or an NC Star mini reflex sight.. The NC Star has a log on the front (the face closer to the muzzle). The Swiss Arms seems to have no logos whatsoever and so does the element one. There are a number of other manufacturer who have no brands on their mini reflex sights. Both the Swiss Arms or NC Star seem to be among the top of mini reflex sights makers.
sr5tactical 7 months ago
Can it handle an 11.1v lipo with ease?
tendtoace23 10 months ago
@tendtoace23
yes it can, however make sure you pair that battery with a M120 spring or above (M140 if you switch to Deans connectors)
With Deans connectors on a M130 spring, my gun double shoots on semi-auto since the cyclic rate is too high. That's one of the reasons I stepped it down to a 7.4
Ecthelion008 10 months ago
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why do you have three xtm rail covers on the left side and only two on the right??
FatalSharpshot23 1 year ago
why do you have three xtm rail covers on the left side and only two on the right?
FatalSharpshot23 1 year ago
@FatalSharpshot23 because the rail size is smaller on the right, if the rail was longer, then it would impede with the folding stock
HotPocketAirsoft 11 months ago
@YahtzeeG8 Sorry I meant, you CAN'T take the battery back out unless you disassemble the rifle.
TheCommander0417 1 year ago
@YahtzeeG8 You can install a battery inside, but requires modification and you can take the battery back out without disassembling the rifle.
TheCommander0417 1 year ago
Does the Pmag feed good all the time? did you use any tape on the inside ofthe lower receiver in order to get a better fit for the Pmag?
strasniciiroboti 1 year ago
you have some nice guns!
jonny12384 1 year ago