I think that every day they should still cut TV for the national anthem. East coast time sunrise and sunset. My generation doesn't give a care about this nation except for a choice few and it might actually make them respect the flag for a bit. Either way, I still wake up to reveille, play to the colors, and end the day to retreat.
@honeybaby000111 nearly all TV, and most radio, stations in NYC lost their transmitters on 9/11, however they returned to air that same day due to the their back up transmitters in place on the Empire State Building.. Unfortunately, TV reception outside of the city has not been as easy since, and DTV is a joke up here.
well the fcc does not make laws they make rules, and the reason why you don't see this anymore is because stations don't sign off at night anymore, and note it only applies to broadcast stations. Would they enforce this rule most likey not if stations still turned off their transmitter.
@mstello18, I would like to think that I paid a lot of attention to TV station sign-offs back in the day. I recorded them and uploaded them here. The national anthem was cultural; a part of Americana. These sentiments have mostly died; broadcasters don't feel a loyalty to our Nation like they did then. And, of course, most stations do not sign of anymore. There is no law or rule or regulation for a station to play the Anthem when signing off, whether they shut the transmitter or carrier off.
@TechnerVideo Well stations do really go off the air anymore so they don't have to play the national anthium anymore, but if they do turn off their transmitter the FCC says they have to play the anthium. Would they enforce that rule, who knows.
Well stations do really go off the air anymore so they don't have to play the national anthium anymore, but if they do turn off their transmitter the FCC says they have to play the anthium. Would they enforce that rule, who knows.
@TechnerVideo well the fcc does not make laws they make rules, and the reason why you don't see this anymore is because stations don't sign off at night anymore, and note it only applies to broadcast stations. Would they enforce this rule most likey not if stations still turned off their transmitter.
An important piece of TV history. More poignant because the broadcast was from the WTC--a strong reminder that these are different times. Would be nice to know which years this sign-off was running.
Wow, that was 1986? I thought by then all the stations were on 24 hours. I remember one station in Cleveland, Ohio had a short video called High Flight. I've found a few versions of it but not the one I remembr.
I miss the good ol' days of the classic sign-off every night. It was always on the weekends though, since I had to go to elementary school the next day! Boy... am I dating myself?
Heard on sign-offs prior to 1982 between the "key station" and studio location info was this: "Service to our community through television programs that entertain, inform and educate. This is the pledge of WABC-TV as a subscriber in good standing to the Television Code of the National Association of Broadcasters. This seal assures you of Channel 7's constant efforts to present the finest programs." This wording dated in that form to the late 1950's.
"This is station WABC-TV in New York- Channel 7- key station in the ABC Television Network. WABC-TV's studios are located at the ABC Television Center, 7 Lincoln Square, New York..."
Looking at the Marine Corps "SSB," it looks like it could've been filmed in or around 1959. The giveaway: The flag had the short-lived 49-star layout.
Possibly, but I can't tell - my earliest recollections of "SSB's" other than WPIX's homemade film to the Army "SSB" was 1974 - and WNEW already had the Flag Evolution "SSB" by then.
Actually, Mr. Parker had been with WABC since at least the 1960's, doing V/O work on the radio station from time to time . . . he also was at the announcing booth for the Jan. 27, 1979 edition of "EWN" which is elsewhere.
Mr. Parker would've only done sign-offs, on the weekends - divvying it up with the likes of Ed Jordan, Tedd Lawrence and possibly Barbara Korsen as well. On sign-ons, announcers included George Hayes and the legendary Fred Foy.
P.S. Mr. Parker had been with ABC since 1965, up to the late 1970's doing regular news updates for the American Entertainment radio network, plus some news updates for WABC Musicradio 77 in the years when ABC staff announcers did the news at :55 and :25. He retired in or around 1990.
It was, between 1951 and 1980 . . . and again since 2001 after the Twin Towers fell. (Trivia: Channel 7's first transmitter, from 1948 to 1951, was atop the Hotel Pierre.)
Okay. So let me get this straight. The WABC TV station transmitted at Empire State Building in the 50's, WTC from 1980 to 2001, and back to Empire State since the WTC attacks?
If I am not mistaking, did'nt WABC TV originally use a Horizontal Grid Test Pattern accompanied by a 385Hz audio tone before the first generation Color Bar in 1974?
If you go to the 'GGN Information Systems' website, you'll see simulations of WABC test patterns used from its start as WJZ in 1948 up to the 1960's (with early 'circle 7' positioning).
I think that every day they should still cut TV for the national anthem. East coast time sunrise and sunset. My generation doesn't give a care about this nation except for a choice few and it might actually make them respect the flag for a bit. Either way, I still wake up to reveille, play to the colors, and end the day to retreat.
Stealth496 3 days ago
This National anthem sign off ran one night a week on WTRF-TV
wesclay14 1 year ago
when new wtc tower is made will they put the transmitters there
thesailormercury1 1 year ago
were are the transmitters now?
honeybaby000111 1 year ago
@honeybaby000111 nearly all TV, and most radio, stations in NYC lost their transmitters on 9/11, however they returned to air that same day due to the their back up transmitters in place on the Empire State Building.. Unfortunately, TV reception outside of the city has not been as easy since, and DTV is a joke up here.
akaravanas 1 year ago
well the fcc does not make laws they make rules, and the reason why you don't see this anymore is because stations don't sign off at night anymore, and note it only applies to broadcast stations. Would they enforce this rule most likey not if stations still turned off their transmitter.
mstello18 1 year ago
@mstello18, I would like to think that I paid a lot of attention to TV station sign-offs back in the day. I recorded them and uploaded them here. The national anthem was cultural; a part of Americana. These sentiments have mostly died; broadcasters don't feel a loyalty to our Nation like they did then. And, of course, most stations do not sign of anymore. There is no law or rule or regulation for a station to play the Anthem when signing off, whether they shut the transmitter or carrier off.
TechnerVideo 1 year ago
@mstello18 my local pbs station mpbn goes off air from 1:00 AM to 6:00 AM.
they play my country tiz of the though at the end.
eajoread 10 months ago
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@TechnerVideo Well stations do really go off the air anymore so they don't have to play the national anthium anymore, but if they do turn off their transmitter the FCC says they have to play the anthium. Would they enforce that rule, who knows.
mstello18 1 year ago
Well stations do really go off the air anymore so they don't have to play the national anthium anymore, but if they do turn off their transmitter the FCC says they have to play the anthium. Would they enforce that rule, who knows.
mstello18 1 year ago
@mstello18, nope, there is no law they have play the national anthem.
TechnerVideo 1 year ago
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@TechnerVideo well the fcc does not make laws they make rules, and the reason why you don't see this anymore is because stations don't sign off at night anymore, and note it only applies to broadcast stations. Would they enforce this rule most likey not if stations still turned off their transmitter.
mstello18 1 year ago
An important piece of TV history. More poignant because the broadcast was from the WTC--a strong reminder that these are different times. Would be nice to know which years this sign-off was running.
casperfriendly47 1 year ago
God I miss those days of tv programming!!!
flymonkeys3 1 year ago
I believe this sign off is quite historic. Due to the fact their programs were transmitted from atop of the World Trade Center.
DragonKiNG411 1 year ago
Wow, that was 1986? I thought by then all the stations were on 24 hours. I remember one station in Cleveland, Ohio had a short video called High Flight. I've found a few versions of it but not the one I remembr.
Reubenhubert 3 years ago
Now there's always something on. Stations don't even sign off anymore. It's either repeats of things shown earlier in the evening or infomercials.
devils950003 3 years ago
back in 1992 I was 10 years old and the only station I ever remember signing off was the local PBS station..
which brings me to this question what was the need to sign off for and as far as I know I don't think any station now signs off anymore.
SubaruB4RSK 2 years ago
wow...why did they all play the nationsl anthem at the end? I am 14 now so I have NEVER seen a sign off lol
DevinsChristmas 3 years ago
People back then were more patriotic and respectful than they are now.
TechnerVideo 3 years ago
I miss the good ol' days of the classic sign-off every night. It was always on the weekends though, since I had to go to elementary school the next day! Boy... am I dating myself?
toeppner 3 years ago
If I'm not mistaken, all the stations are now 24 hours right?
pyschodad1 3 years ago
yup back when believe actually loved america
wing667 3 years ago
Amen to that.
mancor11 2 years ago
Not all of them. Some digital TV-based affiliates still film sign-ons and sign-offs.
springert19 2 years ago
The Nation Anthem, 'Beautiful"
samantha11111 3 years ago
That scary hum did not make it at the end.
prausch65 3 years ago
;-) cool
PaulStryper24 3 years ago
Heard on sign-offs prior to 1982 between the "key station" and studio location info was this: "Service to our community through television programs that entertain, inform and educate. This is the pledge of WABC-TV as a subscriber in good standing to the Television Code of the National Association of Broadcasters. This seal assures you of Channel 7's constant efforts to present the finest programs." This wording dated in that form to the late 1950's.
wmbrown6 4 years ago
True, 'wm'- but I wanted to make sure everyone who's never see this sign-off knew exactly how it began....
fromthesidelines 4 years ago
The missing part of the opening disclaimer:
"This is station WABC-TV in New York- Channel 7- key station in the ABC Television Network. WABC-TV's studios are located at the ABC Television Center, 7 Lincoln Square, New York..."
fromthesidelines 4 years ago
Actually, here it comes in at "--incoln Square, New York..." ;)
wmbrown6 4 years ago
Looking at the Marine Corps "SSB," it looks like it could've been filmed in or around 1959. The giveaway: The flag had the short-lived 49-star layout.
wmbrown6 4 years ago
And did'nt WNEW TV Ch 5 also use this same
US Marine Corps SSB Film before the Flag Evolution one?
Tuberboy104 4 years ago
Possibly, but I can't tell - my earliest recollections of "SSB's" other than WPIX's homemade film to the Army "SSB" was 1974 - and WNEW already had the Flag Evolution "SSB" by then.
wmbrown6 4 years ago
Did'nt Wally Parker become the announcer for
WABC TV around 1980?
Tuberboy104 4 years ago
Actually, Mr. Parker had been with WABC since at least the 1960's, doing V/O work on the radio station from time to time . . . he also was at the announcing booth for the Jan. 27, 1979 edition of "EWN" which is elsewhere.
wmbrown6 4 years ago
So by this time in 1979, was Mr. Parker also the announcer for the WABC TV Sign Off and
Sign On's?
Tuberboy104 4 years ago
Mr. Parker would've only done sign-offs, on the weekends - divvying it up with the likes of Ed Jordan, Tedd Lawrence and possibly Barbara Korsen as well. On sign-ons, announcers included George Hayes and the legendary Fred Foy.
wmbrown6 4 years ago
P.S. Mr. Parker had been with ABC since 1965, up to the late 1970's doing regular news updates for the American Entertainment radio network, plus some news updates for WABC Musicradio 77 in the years when ABC staff announcers did the news at :55 and :25. He retired in or around 1990.
wmbrown6 4 years ago
I thought that their programming is transmitted from the Empire State Building?
kennyjohnson94 4 years ago
It was, between 1951 and 1980 . . . and again since 2001 after the Twin Towers fell. (Trivia: Channel 7's first transmitter, from 1948 to 1951, was atop the Hotel Pierre.)
wmbrown6 4 years ago
Okay. So let me get this straight. The WABC TV station transmitted at Empire State Building in the 50's, WTC from 1980 to 2001, and back to Empire State since the WTC attacks?
kennyjohnson94 4 years ago
Bingo. But in terms of the first Empire transmitting stint, again it was 1951-1980. Much of their sign-off script dated back to the '50's.
wmbrown6 4 years ago
Did'nt WNEW TV Ch 5 first use this same US Marine Corps SSB film for signing off before switching to the Flag Evolution SSB in the
mid 1970's?
Tuberboy104 4 years ago
Now it is, after 9/11 that is now the case :)
LHodge091985 4 years ago
And by then they dispensed with the test pattern slides and had EIA-189-A color bars. But Wally Parker was the announcer, as he was in 1983 . . .
wmbrown6 4 years ago
If I am not mistaking, did'nt WABC TV originally use a Horizontal Grid Test Pattern accompanied by a 385Hz audio tone before the first generation Color Bar in 1974?
Tuberboy104 4 years ago
If you go to the 'GGN Information Systems' website, you'll see simulations of WABC test patterns used from its start as WJZ in 1948 up to the 1960's (with early 'circle 7' positioning).
wmbrown6 4 years ago
Outstanding! Simply outstanding!
NEPatriot 4 years ago
When in 1983 did WABC TV start using the
US Marine Corps SSB?
Tuberboy104 4 years ago
By the sounds of it, WABC were still doing live sign-offs around this time.
treffynnon19 4 years ago
Alas, this was one of the last; after September of 1986, WABC was a 24/7 station.
wmbrown6 4 years ago