End of US Democracy/2of2

[wozzek22]

10,459 views in 4 years. I fear to check how many views Lady Gaga had in 4 days. Americans are those who condone their fascist country and its murderous regime, and therefore guilty for its never ending crimes against humanity.

[twiztidsnooky]

This looks like it was recorded on a calculator.

[LockupSean]

The USA is not a democracy, people and votes mean nothing. It is a republic ruled in theory by the constitution but in reality through criminal banksters.

[gurumagoo]

The fact remains, use of terms like "representative democracy" is ridiculous in the extreme. Such a thing cannot exist. Interchanging republic and "representative democracy" is like saying that something is damply dry, pleasantly painful, or intelligently stupid. The words democracy and republic are diametrically opposed to each other in their ultimate meaning. A republic protects the individual from the majority while a democracy subjugates the will of the individual to that of the majority.

[LockupSean]

@gurumagoo Republic and democracy are not opposed to each other. Check Socrates who invented the republic and democracy for that. Now tell me where the republic gets it's power from if not the people? International banksters? The constitution has become a scrab of papers and people in favor of the constitution or the bill of rights are considered a threat by the authorities today. Both terms: democracy or republic are ridiculous because they are just propaganda.

[gurumagoo]

End of democracy? God I hope so.

[LockupSean]

Germany is a republic but they say they have democracy. The same goes for the French. With " democracy" they mean that through elections people rule the country which is not true and neither does the system even in a remote way resemple the ancient Athenian DEMOCRACY which was not ruled by the "mob".

[gurumagoo]

@LockupSean If you don't know what you mean, you can never mean what you say. The meaning is everything. The idea of a republic is the antithesis of a democracy. Muddying together the meaning of the two terms is dangerous and can't be considered innocent. A republic protects the individual where a democracy does the opposite. Franklin said democracy is a government where two wolves and a lamb argue over what to have for dinner. The real danger is populism. Populism created the Caesars.

[LockupSean]

@gurumagoo Democracy is a Greek word so the meaning must be Greek. Check wikipedia under Athenian democracy and check the ideas of Aristotle ( the designer of the Athenian democracy ).

"Franklin said democracy is a government where two wolves and a lamb argue over what to have for dinner."

So why then in the USA millions of people are in jail for possession of marijuana? Sounds like populism to me? The war in Iraq was based on populism. Where is your "republic" there?

[gurumagoo]

@LockupSean No kidding. You noticed that too? The Founders found democracy to be abhorrent. And yes, I'm familiar with the Greek roots of the word democracy. I'm a classical historian, and I know enough about history to know that the myth of "American Democracy" is a 20th century populist invention that was interposed upon our republican institutions. Democracy is one of the most dangerous forms of government. Many of histories worst dictators were "elected" by common consent.

[gurumagoo]

@LockupSean The Founding Fathers did not look to the Greeks for their inspiration but to the Romans. They considered Greek ideas to be dangerous, inherently unstable, and prone to extremes. Roman ideas were centered upon law and constitutionality. The American republican system has been corrupted by democratic populism. The same thing happened in Rome.

[LockupSean]

@gurumagoo Fact is wallstreet is running the USA hoe ever you please to call the USA and fact is the federal reserve is not federal but owned by private banksters who are running the show. The corporate media is owned by the corporations and you don't have and independent media in the USA. The main stream media anyway is not independent. So however you choose to call the USA "republic" versus "democracy" to me it's just semantics. 911 was an inside job and criminals are running the show.

[gurumagoo]

@LockupSean The whole world is run that way. If you think that crap is limited to the US then you're sadly mistaken. Perhaps we don't have an independent media over here but I would say such a think does not exist anywhere. Europe is every bit as corrupt and controlled if not worse; and socialist ideas are far more deeply rooted there than here.

[amareto35]

@gurumagoo Educate us, name one European country who over threw a Government and put another.

Any move they are making, they have to tell big poppa (USA) first. You think France can attack Morroco, because they are devoloping WMDs? The United States opposes new settlements in Palestine and yet they don't want to punish the Israelians in the UN, and the Europeans and the rest of the world are saying if you disagree why don't you punish them. That's the power the EU have, just CONDEMN, and vote.

[gurumagoo]

@amareto35 "Educate us, name one European country who over threw a Government and put another."

Very well, here goes.....Great Britain, France, Germany, Spain, Italy, and Russia. Maybe I missed one but that should do. You didn't pay attention during history class did you?

And you're pointing out that the US government is corrupt? Duh. You're not too quick are you?

[amareto35]

@gurumagoo WE ARE TALKING ABOUT THE PRESENT, NOT THE PAST. WHO BRINGS PRISONERS TO THEIR COUNTRIES AND KEEP THEM WITH OUT A TRIAL.

Don' t bring me ex empires. Who attacked Iraq, and avoided the whole world condemnations?

Let me put it this way..Who is the Evil Empire in 2011?

[Research0digo]

when was this aired, please?

[queqwerty]

End of U.S. Democracy?

The U.S. never had a democracy, its a republic.

lol

[danpt2000]

@queqwerty, Yet NeoCons talk of spreading democracy around the world, making democracy safe for peoples of the world.

[txmetal34]

Whats scary now is Obama has control over all these powers that Bush ushered in. He is also moving at light speed to subvert the constitution, amping up domestic surveillance, and creating new incredible powers all his own i.e. preventative detention. He also wants to create a domestic army of followers that answers only to him. Scary times we live in. I fear this place is already dead, we are just living in the initial stages of decay. The first sere (wave) of insects will be along shortly.

[ssatrofma]

Extraordinary claims require extraordinary proof.

Where's your?

[txmetal34]

Wheres my what Ozombie? Master the art of grammar before you slaughter your keyboard.

As for proof, try getting your information somewhere outside of cnn/fox. Your clay messiah is falling apart. And after his failing reputation turns to dust, we will witness a military police state ushered in, the likes of which you cant possibly fathom. (We are talking weaponry unleashed upon the populace that is 30 yrs + more advanced than what is available to the general citizenry. )

[Commiton]

@txmetal34 Bush, Obama, who ever, what we need to cotton is the elections are fascist government media monopoly fake outs. The candidates at the end all de facto appointees of the super rich click that run the joint, the Military Industrial Congressional Complex. We won't be able to fix the problem by "electing" the jokers they allow us at the final ballot. To far gone for that.

[vi67]

The USA is a Constitutional republic - A constitutional republic is a state where the head of state and other officials are elected as representatives of the people and must govern according to existing constitutional law that limits the government's power over citizens.

1892:"I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America, and to the Republic for which it stands: one Nation "under God" [initiated by knights of Columbus,1951], indivisible, With Liberty and Justice for all."

[buckfush12]

Interesting, thank you for posting this, good luck guys.

[musolinilampost]

....."Military Keynesianism.........."

Brilliant Chalmers.

Impeach, try and convict then hang 'em.

300,000,000 citizens must rise up against this Secret Government.

[musolinilampost]

I love this old fart! Take his clarion call for what it is-a warning about the fall of our Republic.

Ron Paul is taking on these issues, he is taking on the secret govenment that rules us and kills us.

Kill Them!

[jeremy837]

Ron Paul uses the terms "blowback," "empire" and "bankruptcy" in reference to the US's overreaching. More voters for Dr. Ron Paul is part of the answer to this nest of problems in the short-term

[rvbarnesboy]

Youtube is God.  Please wake the fuck up. somebody do something.

[memalley]

its not youtube. its the freedom of the internet.. the internet is under attack as the last bastion of free speach.

[Neanderthalcouzin]

Save websites that are important to you, that you feel are important. Backup videos to your hard disk. The internet cannot be beaten.

[matrixoverkill]

And Republics become empires as a result of the military complex.

[shadowmasterd]

The USA is NOT A DEMOCRACY! WE ARE A REPUBLIC Morons! The difference being we are THE MAJORITY: LIMITED!

Its purpose is to control The Majority strictly, as well as all others among the people, primarily to protect The Individual's God-given, unalienable rights and therefore for the protection of the rights of The Minority, of all minorities, and the liberties of people in general.

[snowy1483]

No it is an empire and like all empires the message is clear assimilate or die!!!! Free white men are the enemy of the one world empire.

[farewellmyth]

The US is a polyarchy not a Republic.

[BrosaJarlen]

The last sentence he says is THE most important thing he says: "If we do see a renaissance of citizenry in this country, then I believe we can recapture our gov't."

[cflying]

Ron paul is the only presidential candidate that wants to fix the system.

[murtumaton]

Perhaps, but people who own the major media networks do not want the system fixed.

[stirrrrrr]

None of the private powers want the system fixed.

[Elvisius]

Now that I think about it the final nail in the coffin for American democracy was 9/11. USA has been going down since WWII but final nail was 9/11.

Bin Laden = 1; Democracy = 0;

[starpilot1]

Outstanding couple of videos. Thanks for posting these.

[starrider7777]

I am reading his book "The Sorrows of Empire". He also appears in the movie "Why we Fight" which can be found elsewhere on Youtube.  His thesis is both sound and disturbing.