@Linux4UnMe I agree, just did the LiveCD session and actually installed it in VM after that to check out the installer, yeah ... nothing really major since S7, same thing, okay, cool :)
ah ok...... yer Unetbootin is dodgey at best.... why not burn it to a cd/dvd? it won't have problems..... otherwise if you absolutely need to boot it from a usb then i would look for alternate programs... I use a script sometimes... but buggered if I remember where i got it from
Sab 8 is finally out. You have to try it. On sab 7 I couldn't install gnome apps on KDE. But on Sab 8 KDE, I can install ANYTHING I want. This is now my full-time distro. It rocks!!!!
@Linux4UnMe I've downloaded KDE iso now and it works. But the first one I tried was Sabayon_Linux_7_amd64_Awesome.iso (from the official website) and I swear u can't go ahead with the installation because it asks you for a user and password. (No, not to create one but to give an existing one) It sounds ridiculous but check for yourself if u don't believe me. Oh and the guy below me is a fuckin TROLL because it's true
ah ok cool. I know older versions of sabayon required you to put in a password to log into it... it's mentioned on the sabayon wiki.. but as far as i know that doesn't exist anymore.... but u got it working now.... cool
@Linux4UnMe I know it says that and I even tried those passwords for the older versions but no luck. As I said before, u can check it for yourself mate. It's the 5th linux I'm trying this week because with all the new versions of Mint, Ubuntu ,Xbuntu etc I have some shutting down/reboot issues. About every 5 times the screen goes dark but it won't completely shut down/reboot. Did u ever encounter smth like that? I'm on Toshiba A660 Geforce 330m, 4gb ram
no idea why you can't get around the password issue.... I don't remember having a problem with it... but I can't remember the last time i tried sabayon....
As for the shutdown/reboot issue... 1 possibility is the graphics card driver... i've had that before and installed an alternate nvidia driver version which fixed the problem.... or if you are using the default nouveau driver maybe try the proprietary nvidia driver...
@Linux4UnMe I'am actually using the NVIDIA proprietary driver and I have a feeling that is the issue. It's very frustrating though ,because everything else besides shutdown/reboot runs perfectly smooth, HD videos, Compiz etc. So I guess I'm gonna have to go for the open source drivers wich unfortunately are usually pain in the ass to set up ,but I think I'm running out of options. Anyway, thanks
Looks good. Unfortunately I'm stuck with Lucid because the newer kernels don't play well with my Radeon HD 6520G. I've heard 3.2 fixed that problem though. Do you know which kernel version this ships with?
At first I tried installing banshee via Portage, but didn't install. Then I tried using Equo, but zero joy. On kde, are you only supposed to use kde apps??
nar, you can mix and max gnome/kde apps all you like... not sure why you are getting problems... sometimes a new program doesn't show up in the menu until you reboot "rarely" or maybe open up a terminal and launch it from there to see if it's installed.... how do you know it's not installed? what happened? did you get an error? or you just can't find the icon in the menu?
I tried Sabyon a year ago, & tried this version again, it is very good & it's a rolling distro which I like, but I found it too difficult to use which was a pity. It wouldn't give me full screen resolution. I think it's really for more experienced users who want to put more time into their distro (either that or maybe I'm a bit thick..).
I love this review!! I have a dell laptop. I tried Kubuntu, Mandriva and a whole lot of other KDE distros. The compositing never worked on any of them. I was afraid I would be stuck in Ubuntu-Hell. After watching your review, I install Sabayon 7 KDE. I was amazed. Compositing worked perfect. I didn't have the lag you reported having. I'm even getting to love Portage. Thanx!!!!!
good stuff man... portage rocks... but if you use it alot you will run into some issues like
"masked packages" etc and will require a bit of reading into portage and playing around with things to get the feel of it.... but if you have enough patience, it is a truely awesome package manager ;)
The sound lag is not that important an issue. The content of the review is much more important. I'm sure you'll sort out the sound issue in due time. Keep hanging in there.
How do you not have a partner deal with youtube and osgui does? That guy like outright STOPPED putting any effort into anything involving linux. Good job mate.
The default inclusion of minimize/maximize window buttons in the GNOME Shell version would definitely seem to address some people's concerns with GNOME Shell.
@Linux4UnMe I got used to them being gone by default on Fedora. They're so easy to add back but when I did they became annoying. On Gnome 3 I find myself working better without them for some reason.
Using source or binary is not a matter of experience, merely one of having too much time at one's hands. I recently updated my main box (Gentoo) after nearly a year. It took me 4 days just to get the new KDE/Qt and some apps to compile and install successfully, due to all the blocks, conflicts, broken libraries, package conflicts, messed up config files and whatnot. Not talking about all the rest of the system here. What an utter waste of time.
if you don't maintain it for a year then do an upgrade then yeah you will be in for some major maintainance LoL. It really needs to be maintained on a weekly basis minimum
@Linux4UnMe Yeah and now guess why I put upgrading on the shelf for so long.... It's not that it gets much smoother when you upgrade on a weekly basis. When a new KDE/Qt version hits the repo, hell breaks loose, always. Oh and don't get me wrong, I'm on Gentoo since 2006 and not planning to change that any time soon.
@SeltsamerAttraktor Weird, it was plain sailing for me when I installed Gentoo. Yes it takes time but you only need to do it once. Then update while you're surfing the web or whatever. Compiled software is so much more stable in my experience, so not just about time.
@22ness0hayden Installing it is indeed fun and easy. That is not the problem. It is the maintenance over an extended period that causes unnecessary headaches. How long have you been on Gentoo now?
From time to time certain packages tend to induce major breakage in your system, simply because the package maintainer didn't pay too much attention, or packages conflict with installed ones or do not play nicely when mixed with other older ones, so that you have to update nearly everything.
@22ness0hayden 2of2 Especially when you don't have the time to update your system every week. (And it's not that it becomes painless then. When a huge update like KDE/Qt hits the repos, you have many things to fix at once.)
@SeltsamerAttraktor I've probably been using it 2 years now. Had no major breakages. I've always followed the instructions in the emerge output, and used revdep --rebuild, etc. If you don't maintain the libaries, python versions, etc, yes you could hit problems with conflicts. Gentoo has been through some failry major upgrades over the last year (baselayout 2/open RC, etc) so not suprised you hit trouble updating after a year with no maintenance, you'd be better to start with a fresh install.
Great review as always! I've been thinking about trying Sabayon. How would you compare it to Arch based Chakra, as far as easy of use, package manager, bugs, etc..? Thanks a million in advance for your advice to a noob like me. :-)
@TinkerToy701 Well, it's not a distro for complete n00bs, so to say. You need to know how to fix a broken Xorg by reinstalling kernel / blob once in a while, and how to upgrade your configuration files, and small inconveniences like that. But if you're used to Arch, that would probably be no problem ;-)
I don't know much about Chakra or Arch for that matter, but I find Sabayon to be a great distro (for the experienced Linux folks).
Sabayon would have alot more packages than arch... even though arch has a hugeeee database of packages... but don't forget with sabayon you have the binary package repositories, the gentoo source packages via portage, and you have alot of Overlays you can add for even more packages. But I am an avid Archlinux user and that will never change ;)
hhmmm i'de say that sabayon and chakra are pretty on par with eachother... I always recommend LinuxMint to newbies though... but i'de wait for Mint 12 in the next couple weeks or so ;)
Thanks for the response! I'm currently dual booting Win7 and Pardus. I have been using Pardus for a couple weeks, but other distros have since caught my eye (Saybayon and Chakra being two of them). I want to eventually ditch Window$ all together! Anyway, thanks again to everyone's advice! Cheers back at ya Linux4UnMe!!
@TinkerToy701 I'd say, just ditch it already. When I did that way back in 2006, it was a pain in the ass at first, but things got better quite soon. What I learned from that: "You are going to overcome that hurdle only when you actually take the risk and do it with full determination." Oh and it's not 2006 anymore, that being said. Things are much easier today.
Great review buddy, very informative. Hope that maybe you will revisit this distro now that v8 is out. Keep up the good work, kudos !
gzenum 1 week ago
@gzenum
cheers... I may do... but i hate repeaing myself lol.
Doesn't seem to be anything significant to talk about with S8 but we'll see
Linux4UnMe 1 week ago
@Linux4UnMe I agree, just did the LiveCD session and actually installed it in VM after that to check out the installer, yeah ... nothing really major since S7, same thing, okay, cool :)
gzenum 1 week ago
what tool did you use to boot this ?
popdodle 3 weeks ago
@popdodle
o_0
a computer
Linux4UnMe 3 weeks ago
@Linux4UnMe I understand this, but like , I use unetbootin, and it never works for me.
popdodle 3 weeks ago
@popdodle
ah ok...... yer Unetbootin is dodgey at best.... why not burn it to a cd/dvd? it won't have problems..... otherwise if you absolutely need to boot it from a usb then i would look for alternate programs... I use a script sometimes... but buggered if I remember where i got it from
Linux4UnMe 3 weeks ago
Hey Kaddie,
Sab 8 is finally out. You have to try it. On sab 7 I couldn't install gnome apps on KDE. But on Sab 8 KDE, I can install ANYTHING I want. This is now my full-time distro. It rocks!!!!
theRaven131 3 weeks ago
@theRaven131
yeah heard sab 8 is out..... might take a look
Linux4UnMe 3 weeks ago
sabayon fue una de las distribuciones que durante mas tiempo use.. hasta que kernel panic
zungaloca 3 weeks ago
I can't go ahead with the installation because it keeps asking me for a fuckin username and password. Can somebody tell me what is it?
UnforgivableMen 1 month ago
@UnforgivableMen
say what? you create the username / password o_0
Linux4UnMe 4 weeks ago
@Linux4UnMe I've downloaded KDE iso now and it works. But the first one I tried was Sabayon_Linux_7_amd64_Awesome.iso (from the official website) and I swear u can't go ahead with the installation because it asks you for a user and password. (No, not to create one but to give an existing one) It sounds ridiculous but check for yourself if u don't believe me. Oh and the guy below me is a fuckin TROLL because it's true
UnforgivableMen 4 weeks ago
@UnforgivableMen
ah ok cool. I know older versions of sabayon required you to put in a password to log into it... it's mentioned on the sabayon wiki.. but as far as i know that doesn't exist anymore.... but u got it working now.... cool
Linux4UnMe 4 weeks ago
@Linux4UnMe I know it says that and I even tried those passwords for the older versions but no luck. As I said before, u can check it for yourself mate. It's the 5th linux I'm trying this week because with all the new versions of Mint, Ubuntu ,Xbuntu etc I have some shutting down/reboot issues. About every 5 times the screen goes dark but it won't completely shut down/reboot. Did u ever encounter smth like that? I'm on Toshiba A660 Geforce 330m, 4gb ram
UnforgivableMen 4 weeks ago
@UnforgivableMen
no idea why you can't get around the password issue.... I don't remember having a problem with it... but I can't remember the last time i tried sabayon....
As for the shutdown/reboot issue... 1 possibility is the graphics card driver... i've had that before and installed an alternate nvidia driver version which fixed the problem.... or if you are using the default nouveau driver maybe try the proprietary nvidia driver...
Linux4UnMe 4 weeks ago
@Linux4UnMe I'am actually using the NVIDIA proprietary driver and I have a feeling that is the issue. It's very frustrating though ,because everything else besides shutdown/reboot runs perfectly smooth, HD videos, Compiz etc. So I guess I'm gonna have to go for the open source drivers wich unfortunately are usually pain in the ass to set up ,but I think I'm running out of options. Anyway, thanks
UnforgivableMen 4 weeks ago
@UnforgivableMen
try a different version of the proprietary nvidia driver....
Linux4UnMe 3 weeks ago
@UnforgivableMen troll
UnrealGeeMan 4 weeks ago
Looks good. Unfortunately I'm stuck with Lucid because the newer kernels don't play well with my Radeon HD 6520G. I've heard 3.2 fixed that problem though. Do you know which kernel version this ships with?
TheAustinHowell 1 month ago
@TheAustinHowell
not sure mate... you'll have to dig up the release notes for this.... i'm too tired to check right now. lol :)
Linux4UnMe 1 month ago
What's the deal with all the dislikes? This was a fairly well made review. Maybe some people have a problem with Australians?
hjf3022 2 months ago
to this day, i loathe KDE
TeruMikami2345 3 months ago
At first I tried installing banshee via Portage, but didn't install. Then I tried using Equo, but zero joy. On kde, are you only supposed to use kde apps??
theRaven131 3 months ago
@theRaven131
nar, you can mix and max gnome/kde apps all you like... not sure why you are getting problems... sometimes a new program doesn't show up in the menu until you reboot "rarely" or maybe open up a terminal and launch it from there to see if it's installed.... how do you know it's not installed? what happened? did you get an error? or you just can't find the icon in the menu?
Linux4UnMe 3 months ago
Kaddie,
I have had trouble installing gnome apps like banshee, brasero on this. Have you had any problems with this??
theRaven131 3 months ago
@theRaven131
I never tried installing gnome apps on the kde version.... and I havn't got sabayon anymore to try....
What sort of problems? did you use the binary package manager?
Linux4UnMe 3 months ago
Sabayon 7 is awesome, gnome shell flies on it !
drumitar 4 months ago
I tried Sabyon a year ago, & tried this version again, it is very good & it's a rolling distro which I like, but I found it too difficult to use which was a pity. It wouldn't give me full screen resolution. I think it's really for more experienced users who want to put more time into their distro (either that or maybe I'm a bit thick..).
jerrytaichi 4 months ago
Hey Kaddy,
I love this review!! I have a dell laptop. I tried Kubuntu, Mandriva and a whole lot of other KDE distros. The compositing never worked on any of them. I was afraid I would be stuck in Ubuntu-Hell. After watching your review, I install Sabayon 7 KDE. I was amazed. Compositing worked perfect. I didn't have the lag you reported having. I'm even getting to love Portage. Thanx!!!!!
theRaven131 4 months ago
@theRaven131
thanx :)
good stuff man... portage rocks... but if you use it alot you will run into some issues like
"masked packages" etc and will require a bit of reading into portage and playing around with things to get the feel of it.... but if you have enough patience, it is a truely awesome package manager ;)
Linux4UnMe 4 months ago
Your reviews are getting better and better.
Maybe you could record your webcam and sound separately, and edit them in later.
MeBeBonkers 4 months ago
@MeBeBonkers
thanx man.
Yeah looks like i might have to
Linux4UnMe 4 months ago
The sound lag is not that important an issue. The content of the review is much more important. I'm sure you'll sort out the sound issue in due time. Keep hanging in there.
Gatorman32656 4 months ago
@Gatorman32656
thanx. but it is still annoying lol. working on it ;)
Linux4UnMe 4 months ago
29 people work for Microsoft.
TTT1776 4 months ago
@TTT1776
lol
Linux4UnMe 4 months ago
How do you not have a partner deal with youtube and osgui does? That guy like outright STOPPED putting any effort into anything involving linux. Good job mate.
NevermoarTV 4 months ago
@NevermoarTV
I am a partner ;) thanx man
Linux4UnMe 4 months ago
thanks dude :-)
TheLolipro 4 months ago
Read the wiki
Aka RTFM
BinaryLinux 4 months ago
Great succinct explanation of use flags mate. Loving the reviews. Keep it up!
soulknifehunter 4 months ago
Now if only Kubuntu had this kind of branding/customization. Too bad that Sabayon is Gentoo based. I hate Gentoo...
zeroangelmk1 4 months ago
The default inclusion of minimize/maximize window buttons in the GNOME Shell version would definitely seem to address some people's concerns with GNOME Shell.
WarriorIng64 4 months ago
@WarriorIng64
lol tell that to the gnome devs... they ignore
Linux4UnMe 4 months ago
@Linux4UnMe I got used to them being gone by default on Fedora. They're so easy to add back but when I did they became annoying. On Gnome 3 I find myself working better without them for some reason.
SeaofInfinity32 4 months ago
I really like this OS but everytime i tried the one update it had after release, on the next reboot gnome would be unusable...
dude0that0kicks0ass 4 months ago
@dude0that0kicks0ass
weird... i should try that to see if it borks mine.... i'll get back to ya on that.... while i still got it installed
Linux4UnMe 4 months ago
@bellicjr @SeltsamerAttraktor Thank you both for your advice! :-)
TinkerToy701 4 months ago
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TinkerToy701 4 months ago
Not a dsitro that interests me much but still a great review, thumbs up and I already subscribed so do I get a free cookie?
BelaFleckFan 4 months ago
@BelaFleckFan
lol sure thing o_0
Linux4UnMe 4 months ago
You could do a super-guide to Gentoo, that would be amazing !
bellicjr 4 months ago
@bellicjr
amazingly painful. lol
Linux4UnMe 4 months ago
Using source or binary is not a matter of experience, merely one of having too much time at one's hands. I recently updated my main box (Gentoo) after nearly a year. It took me 4 days just to get the new KDE/Qt and some apps to compile and install successfully, due to all the blocks, conflicts, broken libraries, package conflicts, messed up config files and whatnot. Not talking about all the rest of the system here. What an utter waste of time.
My secondary system (Sabayon) is much more fun.
SeltsamerAttraktor 4 months ago 2
@SeltsamerAttraktor
if you don't maintain it for a year then do an upgrade then yeah you will be in for some major maintainance LoL. It really needs to be maintained on a weekly basis minimum
Linux4UnMe 4 months ago
@Linux4UnMe Yeah and now guess why I put upgrading on the shelf for so long.... It's not that it gets much smoother when you upgrade on a weekly basis. When a new KDE/Qt version hits the repo, hell breaks loose, always. Oh and don't get me wrong, I'm on Gentoo since 2006 and not planning to change that any time soon.
SeltsamerAttraktor 4 months ago
@SeltsamerAttraktor Weird, it was plain sailing for me when I installed Gentoo. Yes it takes time but you only need to do it once. Then update while you're surfing the web or whatever. Compiled software is so much more stable in my experience, so not just about time.
22ness0hayden 4 months ago
@22ness0hayden Installing it is indeed fun and easy. That is not the problem. It is the maintenance over an extended period that causes unnecessary headaches. How long have you been on Gentoo now?
From time to time certain packages tend to induce major breakage in your system, simply because the package maintainer didn't pay too much attention, or packages conflict with installed ones or do not play nicely when mixed with other older ones, so that you have to update nearly everything.
SeltsamerAttraktor 4 months ago
@22ness0hayden 2of2 Especially when you don't have the time to update your system every week. (And it's not that it becomes painless then. When a huge update like KDE/Qt hits the repos, you have many things to fix at once.)
SeltsamerAttraktor 4 months ago
@SeltsamerAttraktor I've probably been using it 2 years now. Had no major breakages. I've always followed the instructions in the emerge output, and used revdep --rebuild, etc. If you don't maintain the libaries, python versions, etc, yes you could hit problems with conflicts. Gentoo has been through some failry major upgrades over the last year (baselayout 2/open RC, etc) so not suprised you hit trouble updating after a year with no maintenance, you'd be better to start with a fresh install.
22ness0hayden 4 months ago
@22ness0hayden 2 years isn't that much. Let's talk again in another 3 years or so, I wonder how you feel then =)
SeltsamerAttraktor 4 months ago
@SeltsamerAttraktor Umm, yeah, that makes sense lol
22ness0hayden 4 months ago
Great review as always! I've been thinking about trying Sabayon. How would you compare it to Arch based Chakra, as far as easy of use, package manager, bugs, etc..? Thanks a million in advance for your advice to a noob like me. :-)
TinkerToy701 4 months ago
@TinkerToy701 Well, it's not a distro for complete n00bs, so to say. You need to know how to fix a broken Xorg by reinstalling kernel / blob once in a while, and how to upgrade your configuration files, and small inconveniences like that. But if you're used to Arch, that would probably be no problem ;-)
I don't know much about Chakra or Arch for that matter, but I find Sabayon to be a great distro (for the experienced Linux folks).
SeltsamerAttraktor 4 months ago
@TinkerToy701 I will compare a bit to Arch, wich is my main system:
Arch's PacMan is much faster and better than "equo"
Arch's Repositories are much bigger than Sabayon ones, and if you use AUR... you got EVERYTHING
Chakra looks a lot more stable than Sabayon.
And.... Chakra is not more based in Sabayon, and it's going to change his Package Manager, so take Arch Linux, or a based Arch Linux distro ;)
bellicjr 4 months ago
@bellicjr
Sabayon would have alot more packages than arch... even though arch has a hugeeee database of packages... but don't forget with sabayon you have the binary package repositories, the gentoo source packages via portage, and you have alot of Overlays you can add for even more packages. But I am an avid Archlinux user and that will never change ;)
Linux4UnMe 4 months ago
@TinkerToy701
cheers.
hhmmm i'de say that sabayon and chakra are pretty on par with eachother... I always recommend LinuxMint to newbies though... but i'de wait for Mint 12 in the next couple weeks or so ;)
Linux4UnMe 4 months ago
@Linux4UnMe
Thanks for the response! I'm currently dual booting Win7 and Pardus. I have been using Pardus for a couple weeks, but other distros have since caught my eye (Saybayon and Chakra being two of them). I want to eventually ditch Window$ all together! Anyway, thanks again to everyone's advice! Cheers back at ya Linux4UnMe!!
TinkerToy701 4 months ago
@TinkerToy701 I'd say, just ditch it already. When I did that way back in 2006, it was a pain in the ass at first, but things got better quite soon. What I learned from that: "You are going to overcome that hurdle only when you actually take the risk and do it with full determination." Oh and it's not 2006 anymore, that being said. Things are much easier today.
SeltsamerAttraktor 4 months ago
First to Reply......
OmenX13 4 months ago