@mcolleenbecker You never get tired of this because it's rare to find a teacher who is more concerned with their work and students than they are with pilfering tax payers and squeezing out every last benefit they can get their greedy hands on.
lol at all the teachers saying how inspirational this is. get a real job. "I make kids sit in study hall for 40 minutes in complete silence" uh oh watch out we got a bad ass over here.
if there were more teachers like this, I think the problems with American schools would go away fast. unfortunately, in my opinion, there are too many teachers who only work as hard at their job as their too small paycheck would warrant.
My daughter is a teacher of first grade students in a poor area and those parents should thanks God every day that they have her. It is the toughest job in the world!! And first graders are not what they used to be especially those in her school. Thanks Taylor for saying it like it is .....and I have a son that is a Lawyer too!!! :)
I am in all honors and advanced placement classes and seriously even in those classes i have some really shitty teachers. Mostly we just learn more from ourselves than him. It pathetic. American education sucks because teachers cant get fired even when there's no way in hell they should be teaching. My school is horrible at making kids want an education. Yes, you cant force someone to WANT and education, but you can teach your class in such a way as to want to learn.
@poobearpanda345 I get you're trolling, and I shouldn't be feeding you. But it seems you're hungry for correction. All teachers (and students, even) know that 1 kid who already went to the bathroom twelve minutes ago and really just wants to make faces in windows. Sometimes a class misbehaves, and needs to sit in silence for 40 minutes. And if you honestly feel that a classroom of (at times) 20+ teens and their drama is "the easiest job," then I highly suggest you get on some of that money.
@KiraBeauty Yeah, I get it. The imaginary dinner guest was interested his salary and Taylor was saying the difference he makes to kids' lives is more important. And no I didn't need to watch it again but I did.
Teachers have to be extremely intelligent. Having the knowledge to teacher yourself one way and be able to teach someone else the way they learn is much more difficult then it appears. I am going to become a teacher to change peoples lives, and to help educated the people who can, and will, change the world.
@davekauai025 I am also dyslexic and the only reason why america's educational system is bad is because people don't care enough to educate themselves. If people would try more and ask much more questions, and find out the things they don't know or understand they will become much more educated. Once people realize that school is for them and no one else, and students get out of it what they put into it. Americans will learn much more and our education system won't be so bad.
ill tell ya what teatchers make.. teatchers make kids miserable they make school unfavorable they make learning boring and the kids hardly make it through morning because there falling asleep at there desks because they were up till 2 am doing homework. sure there are good teatchers out there like this guy but not mine. ill tell you what im a smart kid but i learned none of what i know in school. ill tell you the truth america needs a new educational system fast. because this one just cant last.
Yes, your grammar truly speaks for how much of a "smart kid" you really are, and how much time you spend in the classroom as opposed to the hall. And let me tell you, if "teatchers" didn't exist, you wouldn't know anything at all.
@davekauai025 Oh, please. I'm an honor student and I'm not up to 2am doing homework. Do it when you get home, be responsible for yourself. Don't blame the teacher for your own ignorance and stupidity.
This idiots commenting here are spouting junk born from bad past experiences. Yes. There are good and bad teachers. Get over it. That's life. This man is explaining what teaching is about and I promise that none of you, not one, would know a God damn thing about anything if you hang been taught by your teachers. Lay off and find something better to do in your spare time than criticizing the people who keep this country afloat
I've been a teacher for 30 years and this is the BEST articulation of what we do, framed perfectly for those who have no idea how important teachers are in the lives of their students. EVERYONE can remember their best (& their worst) teachers. You just remembered yours, didn't you? Taylor Mali speaks for so many of us. THANK U Taylor!
The time is now to make this a national conversation. Why are teachers in the USA so under-paid and undervalued? "American Teacher" is a movie project that gives focus to this question. Our children, collectively, should be our highest priority. Definitely beautiful!
@jbx20, just to clarify, we don't collect a 'fat paycheck' or get summers off. As a teacher, you get the same salary every year but are given different options as to how to spread it out throughout the year. I personally choose to not get paid during the summer so I can make it through the academic year, and I waitress during my vacations. We spend the entire summer creating curriculum plans for the following year's state requirements, so we do in fact work hard all year.
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You make kids never read another book after high school, you make them drop out from boredom and hopelessness, you teach them about class favorites and unfair marking, you make them "just no good at math" and proud of it and part of their identity, you make them not tell the difference between your and you're, and then you get summers off and collect a fat paycheck.
@jbx20 You are shit. You have no idea what it means to be a teacher and the influence it can enact for children. You have your hear so far up your ass that you only speak bullshit now. Shut the hell up and go away. Dumbass.
@jbx20 perhaps your teachers weren't all that great, but my high school teachers were and if you are going to put down teachers as a whole then screw you man because my teacher made a difference in the lives of each and every one of the eighty-five people i graduated with and it is because of them that I am studying to become a History and Music professor.
I like the emotion, but that's all there is to this video. It's educationiness (cf. truthiness) at best. So your in-laws ribbed you a little bit about your income? That means you can go off on them. Defensive much?
@ThePrincessofRandom Educationiness: when students pretend to be interested in school in order to impress their teachers into giving them good grades they don't deserve. "Oh my God I love math sooooo much!" And when teachers use an announcer voice to try and make historical figures sound cool. And philosophical name-dropping. All the trappings of an educational environment without any of the substance.
@MrJimmyLocksmith Thanks for the replies. I have the utmost respect for teachers. I just get annoyed at people who are constantly on their high horse, so to speak. And, even though i still disagree with the bathroom thing i respect you and appreciate your thoughts on it. Thanks for what you do and have a nice day.
I am proud to say that when I was 22, I decided to become a teacher. It was a combination of SLC Punk, a half dozen kids I mentor and one painful afternoon of tutoring where the kid finally had an "aha" moment, which made it all worth it. I see so many kids that remind me of me as a kid: over intelligent and under stimulated. I call my students colleagues because often I learn as much from them as they from me. And teaching takes more hard work and virtue than I thought I was capable of.
For you teachers here arguing about how the video is untrue and may very well be 80% bullshit, well ur 100% wrong. I support this guy and what he is saying. I came to the U.S. 2 years ago and spoke no English, knew nothing about math, or history. All i had was my brain and my teacher. He made all the difference for me, taught me everything i need for the long run, like every other teacher would. Now i see kids like me who does not appreciate that. Kids should really pull their pants up and learn
Now granted, this is my first time listening to this guy. I was unfamiliar with him all together until a few minutes ago. But, is it just me or does he seem like a bit of a pompous ass? I'll be the first to admit, maybe I'm just reading too far into it but... how is someone asking a teacher what they make any different from asking an accountant or a mechanic? Seems a little over the top. Also, it's not his place to judge whether a kid has to pee or is just "bored."
@Derekmf23 Teachers don't like it when people trivialize our jobs or measure it simply in dollars. My grandmother once said that often we become teachers because we're not good enough for anything else and I went off on her. A mechanic or accountant doesn't do their job for the same reasons we do. For them it's about dollars and cents. For us, it's about virtue, benevolence, courage, and honor (ideally speaking). It's about helping and caring. It's not a job. It's a life.
@MrJimmyLocksmith I don't want to put down teachers over all but please realize that teachers aren't the only ones who see their "jobs" as a way of life. Computers got in my blood 30 years ago and if I didn't love it I might get a 9-5 job. But I don't mind staying up to 3am working on a program or fine-tuning an Internet server for my love. My brother feels the same way about car mechanics. My sister feels the same way about Nursing.
@davekeays I never said such dedication didn't exist in other professions. The same could be said for my girlfriend and photography, my brother and music, my father and carpentry, and nearly a dozen of my friends and painting.
@davekeays You think maybe he's being speculative? Or maybe that his statement was meant to be taken subjectively and in context? Or maybe you're missing the point? I'm an AV tech and musician who doesn't work for the money and I knew what he meant.
@SaintRi I think most of the rest of us are as honorable as those who've chosen the teachers path with the exception of maybe Siddhartha, Jesus, Hindu gurus, etc. Other professions were being trivialized as much as the after-dinner speaker was trivializing teachers.
You are in the arts which is very different than a Balance Sheet juggler, computer decoder, or wrench jockey. People don't see the poetry in code, the beauty of used engine oil, or the art of balancing books. I'm serious.
@davekeays No one said anything about anyone not being honorable. Everyone has a reason to do their job. I think you're reading too much into it. And I wouldn't call fixing soundboards for ingrates, fiddling with projectors, or replacing cables art.
@Derekmf23 And also, yes it is his place. He is the teacher and it is his job to be aware of what is going on in the classroom and make sure the students learn. Therefore, if he knows the kid is just wanting to screw around and not learn, it's part of his job to prevent that. I've told kids to wait on more than one occasion and amazingly, when they have the opportunity to go, all of a sudden, they don't have to anymore, but they did learn how to cite sources and construct arguments.
@Derekmf23 For some reason, some people feel the need to criticize teachers by saying that they only became a teacher because they couldn't succeed doing what they 'really' wanted to do or because they get Christmas and summer off, and frankly, it's insulting, and 99% of the time, it's completely inaccurate. Teachers teach because they love children, they love to teach, and they truly want to make a difference.
@dejordyball The cost of living is higher in those states, so naturally their salaries are a bit higher than other states. For the areas those teachers live in, their salaries won't be enough to live off of (especially if they're a single parent).
12 Things We Are and Have In Christ!! 1. I am a New Creation. 2 Cor. 5:17. 2. I am Delivered. Col. 1:13. 3. I am Righteous. 2 Cor 5:21. 4. I am Sanctified. Heb. 10:14 5. I have Boldness, Access. Eph. 2:18, 3:12. 6. I have Eternal Life. John 3:36. 7. Always Triumph. 2 Cor. 2:14 8. Can do all things in Christ. Phil 4:13. 9. Christ, my wisdom. 1 Cor 1:30. 10. Blessed with all Blessings. Eph 1:3 11. Needs met by God. Phil 4:19. 12. Have Freedom. Rom. 8:2.
Stay in denial all you want. Go to any suburban district--Illinois, New York, California-- and actually look at what teachers are making. There is an imaginary world in which teachers earn horrible salaries.
@oogenesis this is called prose since it doesn't have a metrical structure, but can be treated like poetry (sans rhyme). Listen to the songs of Red Sovine for prose put to music. Many oratorical speakers do a wonderful job with it- MLK is one of my favorites.
I absolutely LOVE anyone who comes to the defense of teachers, I am running for the school board because the current board gave teachers a bad deal.
That said, however --- I couldn't dismiss the author's comment about "I didn't let you go to the bathroom because you're bored and I know you don't have to go". Nobody ever knows that for sure and a kid is left humiliated and devastated if he has an accident. If you suspect a kid is faking that.. you let him go, and then check with the parents!
As a teacher of over 15 years I have seen teaching change. With the ADD blasting of TV, movies, and video games, we've gotten away from actually learning. Everything is supposed to be "fun for the kids". That wasn't the way I learned. I learned because drill was the way and you know what? It worked. Kids do need to work alone but also with peers. I am sure this guy didn't mean kids always working alone and writing two of the same words all day long. He was making a point.
@dejordyball EL OH EL bull fucking shit you scumbag. I have a sister that has a masters and teaches in one the highest paying districts in the US for 10 years and makes less than 55k a year.
@dejordyball Teachers, dude? Or administrators? To make that kind of salary as a teacher, you'd have to be teaching at the college level, at a high-level state or private university, be in one of the few fields that supports that kind of salary (i.e.: science, engineering, or medicine) AND have tenure. This is out of reach for 90% of teachers in this country, if that.
@dejordyball I sure would like to know what district that is!!! We would all move there, if that's the case. Maybe you should do your research before talking such nonsense to the people who know the real truth.
Huh. As an educator I loved half of this and abhorred the other half. You are espousing many views of teachers that are completely behaviorist pedagogies. Why should children be silent or work alone or drill spelling? Education needs to be interactive and loud and filled with critical thinking and creativity (like poetry slams). I see this is 5 years old - would love to see it updated with some new pedagogy.
@erikgreen428 He was talking about study hall. What you do during study hall is sit, read/write/study. At least that's what study hall was like for me =). I still had time for interaction and all the fun critical thinking out of study hall.
@erikgreen428 As a teacher of over 15 years I have seen teaching change. With the ADD blasting of TV, movies, and video games, we've gotten away from actually learning. Everything is supposed to be "fun for the kids". That wasn't the way I learned. I learned because drill was the way and you know what? It worked. Kids do need to work alone but also with peers. I am sure this guy didn't mean kids always working alone and writing two of the same words all day long. He was making a point.
Mr. Mali speaks to so many levels of the teaching profession. We as teachers need to stick together and not be harrassed or bullied by the powers that be. I'm frustrated as a Canadian in the public school system how our government is trying to do a "makeover" as they have done so well in the US public school system over the past 20 years!!
Education is an essential part of the working gears of the world. We spend so much of our lives in school. School shapes who we are, and teachers are the molders. Teachers should be appreciated every day for what they do, just as much as any other profession that takes love and passion to carry out. We're not asking to be worshiped, we're asking to be recognized, just like everyone else. I think Taylor's poem really speaks to that.
Oh, and another thing, I have a 16,000 dollar scholarship that guarantees me a job directly out of college. I agree with tallulah58...take your uninformed idiocy somewhere else.
TheWowser2011, I am working hard and I will most definitely graduate. I have a 4.0 GPA and I pay my own way through a private university. I'm going to be an amazing teacher. Maybe before you comment on my ability, you could learn how to spell.
"Oh, and 'TheWowser2011"...fuck you, you ignorant bigot." --- hmmme. who will always make more than you, who will always be more valued by socirety than you. Have fun finding a job when you graduate (if you do).
I'm studying to be a teacher..this poem inspires me every day. I am passionate about what I do. I wasn't treated well as a student because my dyslexia went misdiagnosed for years. I want to touch the lives of my students and let them know that I know how it feels and they won't be ignored.
In response to; "those who can't do, teach" ....someone had to teach those people how to do what they do, right?
Oh, and 'TheWowser2011"...fuck you, you ignorant bigot.
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What a moron....how cute!!! He calls himself a "Slam Poet". How precious and Noble....Now grow up, shut up, and get a job where you dont require a grant
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As for doctors not getting a reassuring speech....why? They make enough money and their future is assured...where as teachers are not and once again society has forgotten the debt we owe our teachers in schools.....
I find this video awesome....and in response to rconnoly, my sister is a teacher and I am pretty sure she would like this. He is not coddling anybody or reassuring, he is stating plain facts. The point is that education now days has fallen to the way side because people have forgotten what teachers are SUPPOSED to do and that is to teach. Not only subjects but life lessons as well....some of my teachers were role models for me. Don't find that many anymore...
I hate this speech..I'm a teacher and I find it embarrassing. Our profession shouldn't need to be constantly reassured and coddled. You don't see some loud mouth doctor giving a speech reassuring doctors that they are valued. This guy is annoying.
@rconnoly By definition, if the aforementioned doctor is loudmouthed, then he or she would feel that stating the validity of his or her profession was necessary. He's not trying to reassure teachers of their value; he's trying to remind society about the worth of an effective educator. I'm currently working on my second year in an early college program.
@rconnoly The educators in my program have a passion, not only for teaching, but for improving the quality of the students' education, which is unparallelled by any high school teacher, instructor, or professor which I have ever had. At the university I attend, very few of the teachers know what it means to be a teacher. When I was in high school, I had exactly one highly effective teacher and about two adequate teachers. This is repulsive.
@rconnoly Teaching is more than just knowing the material. That's the message Mali is trying to get across. Also, it's a poem, not a speech. There is a difference between a poem and a speech.
@rconnoly We have to value doctors because we have no choice. Teachers are not regarded as in the same league. There are plenty of people who believe you are replaceable with a part-time grad student or even a textbook. Nor is this poem intended for other teachers. It is a lesson for all or none, should society choose to accept it or not.
-ion of homework or studying for tests. In my opinion you are just saying that what teachers are trying to do for their students is disrupting their right to creativity. But,correct me if I am wrong, isn't that what art class, music class, and English is for?
@olneyjeeps I,as an eighth grade student, think that your comments are extremely outlandish and, to be honest, quite rude to many teachers. Referring to your comment on teachers being "control freaks", if you haven't noticed, if there is not some type of control in the classroom then how is the teacher going to teach? I for one think that study halls spent in complete silence is better than having a room full of 20 kids talking while about 3 of them are actually trying to accomplish the complet
I know this is going to sound stupid but what does he mean by the lines ' "leave the kid alone, I still cry sometimes, don't you?" and it was the noblest act of courage I have ever scene', is that the parent talking back to him?
@123RileyRoe250 It only sounded stupid because you said "scene" when the word is "seen"... But he meant that the kid said that to a bully picking on someone. The kid was sticking up to a bully and thats why it was an act of courage...
@d3fish3r3 Thanks for clarifying =) and I'm analysing 3 different plays at the moment which is why the whole "scene/seen" thing occurred, thanks once again!
This is definitely beautiful, definitely beautiful, definitely beautiful.
I'm relatively new at teaching (5 years), but to say with absolute certainty that students work best in groups or work best alone is foolish. People work in different ways, and part of being effective in teaching is knowing when to allow groups and when to not. In the context of this poem, they definitely are NOT conducive to learning.
@olneyjeeps: It seems you have quite the opinion about teaching and teachers, and that's fine. However, you should probably learn a little bit more before you pretend to be an authority on the subject. Pedagogy is necessary at times. Andragogy is necessary at times. No study will tell you that pedagogy is useless. Guaranteed.
Also, it's quite impossible to take AP classes through college, well, because they don't exist on the college level. Ever.
A comment on the Comments: I taught high school for twelve years in both 'inner city' and 'good' districts. When students want to learn together and help each other, groups are wonderful. When students want to see how little they can do and get away with it, groups enable laziness. Students come in both types. Teachers need the authority to deal with both types and not be told that one size fits all.
@rainforeverxx Sorry, psychological testing has shown that working in groups invariably encourages creativity through collaboration. Because you think you are learning more in English is not a valid argument that the method is not sound logic (and yes, I took all AP classes all the way through college). Groups can be harder to control (see any link there?).
When you get to college is when you learn where you learned more, not now.
To MAKE is to control. When will (more) teachers discover that people do work better in groups, that a room full of lemmings forced to be quiet does not inspire the intrinsic desire to learn and grow that so many have stomped into submission.
Extrinsic motivation will forever be nothing more than a tool of control / manipulation. Those who work by extrinsic motivation (money / treats) are doomed to never be as incredible as they can be. Blame the teachers that habitually imprinted that.
@olneyjeeps people do not work best in groups. I'm a sophomore in high school. I have an Honors English teacher who absolutely hates having kids work in groups and an AP history teacher who makes us work in groups all the time.
I've learned so much more from English than history.
@jojoviss: I guess you never noticed the mayhem which ensued when garbage collectors went on strike. If one has to whine about what they are paid for what they do, they do not love it and therefore are not doing it anywhere near as good as someone who does. It has been clinically psychologically proven time and time again that using extrinsic "treats" to get subjects to do something kills intrinsic (what should be nurtured) creative desire. (Some) Teachers need to get off power trip.
Taylor (and sadly so many teachers) is nothing more than a control freak. One who wishes to help children (or anyone for that matter) does not MAKE, they INSPIRE. It's called Management By Example.
What you get paid should have little value, enjoying what you do is. "Find a profession doing what you love and you will never work a day in your life"
@olneyjeeps "Taylor (and sadly so many teachers) is nothing more than a control freak."
Your statement about how you view other human beings based on a single attribute - their chosen profession - tell me absolutely nothing about them. It's your personal subjective view which means it holds no weight and no authority beyond your opinion.
This statement does tell something about you though. And that something is not very flattering...
@mkarnerfors ROTFLMAO My statement is based on my (and others') empirical observations of said group. To delineate my view in detail would fill volumes. I am still waiting for someone to pose a logical response to the analysis that far too many (not all, mind you) teachers use the draconian B.F.Skinner behaviorist methods (treating our children as test animals?) of implements of control.
The inability of others to present a logical argument is what is not flattering.
@olneyjeeps You have a valid point about the differences between make and inspire. However, you need to retake ENC1002 where you learn about poetic license. The question he was asked by his dinner guests was not "honestly, what do you inspire?", it was "honestly, what do you make," setting the speaker up for a glorious and INSPIRING pun. Also, nowhere in the poem does he "whine" about how much money he makes.
I will never get tired of this.
mcolleenbecker 1 day ago
@mcolleenbecker You never get tired of this because it's rare to find a teacher who is more concerned with their work and students than they are with pilfering tax payers and squeezing out every last benefit they can get their greedy hands on.
AyeJay99 4 hours ago
You, sir, are a god among men.
CocoaNutCakery 1 day ago
amazing
NinjaJC1988 1 day ago
LOVE THIS LOVE THIS LOVE THIS
Jnoelle1120 2 days ago
AMEN to this funny asshole
medinalawrence1 2 days ago
Thank you. Amen, brother, amen.
JustAKidWhoWrites 2 days ago
love it. have watched it many times and shared it more than that! Thank you, Taylor.
kyrindunstonmdtv 2 days ago
Tears to my eyes.
sonnysince1984 3 days ago
AMEN!
ArdynJ 3 days ago
WOW!!! Dude that was AMAZING!!
VPayneOG 3 days ago
This guy is like my spirit animal.
He should be president.
labaret93 3 days ago
robin williams, eat your "dead poet's" heart out. this guy owns.
MaskedManMike 3 days ago
Wow, this guy is incredible!
FishieGirl17 3 days ago
Wow. This was pretty amazing. Well done, sir. Well done.
pandachick1024 3 days ago
This guy is padding himself in his back...
longbeachboy57 4 days ago
@longbeachboy57 patting, sorry
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JonasPlanck 3 days ago
I wish this guy was my professor in college
osulakers17 4 days ago 2
Saw this guy at my high school. He's pretty awesome.
crissyfm 4 days ago
... yeah, in a perfect world...
peeps5611 4 days ago
This guy just won all arguments...ever
atomiksphinx77 4 days ago
this is SO AWESOME. thats what you call dedicated.
iambored678 4 days ago
lol at all the teachers saying how inspirational this is. get a real job. "I make kids sit in study hall for 40 minutes in complete silence" uh oh watch out we got a bad ass over here.
UmbertoSanchez 4 days ago
@UmbertoSanchez Ur an idiot lol smh.
PinkDough 4 days ago
@UmbertoSanchez "get a real job". Interesting. What exactly do you do, sir?
ThePrincessofRandom 4 days ago
@ThePrincessofRandom i'm an assassin with the Japanese Yakuza
UmbertoSanchez 4 days ago
i have never been so inspired!!!!!
Splinter5k 4 days ago
I've always had a lot of respect for teachers but now my respect for them is on a completely different level.
PhotographerrX3 4 days ago
And THIS is why I am studying to become a teacher!
JustJanaBanana 5 days ago 24
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Me too. I watch this whenever I need a reminder why I'm doing it.
MBeast2 3 days ago
Poetry makes magic out of words, and slam poetry makes life out of poems.
BoundinX 5 days ago
this guys angry as hell, I'd keep him away from my kids...
azwel 1 week ago
344 people are ignorant douchebags.
AburameChan 1 week ago 3
Brilliant! Gave me chills!
dkahn02 1 week ago
if there were more teachers like this, I think the problems with American schools would go away fast. unfortunately, in my opinion, there are too many teachers who only work as hard at their job as their too small paycheck would warrant.
tricnomistal 1 week ago
GODDAMNITTHATISSOFUCKINGGOOD! FUCK!!
My eloquence escapes me...
T1meW4st3d 1 week ago
I"m gonna watch this three more times and do another back flip!!!
Good job GODDAMNIT!!!
T1meW4st3d 1 week ago
My daughter is a teacher of first grade students in a poor area and those parents should thanks God every day that they have her. It is the toughest job in the world!! And first graders are not what they used to be especially those in her school. Thanks Taylor for saying it like it is .....and I have a son that is a Lawyer too!!! :)
wellswmn97 1 week ago
This guy is awesome. I wish i had him!!
cagedrats 1 week ago
I am in all honors and advanced placement classes and seriously even in those classes i have some really shitty teachers. Mostly we just learn more from ourselves than him. It pathetic. American education sucks because teachers cant get fired even when there's no way in hell they should be teaching. My school is horrible at making kids want an education. Yes, you cant force someone to WANT and education, but you can teach your class in such a way as to want to learn.
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poobearpanda345 2 weeks ago
@poobearpanda345 I get you're trolling, and I shouldn't be feeding you. But it seems you're hungry for correction. All teachers (and students, even) know that 1 kid who already went to the bathroom twelve minutes ago and really just wants to make faces in windows. Sometimes a class misbehaves, and needs to sit in silence for 40 minutes. And if you honestly feel that a classroom of (at times) 20+ teens and their drama is "the easiest job," then I highly suggest you get on some of that money.
silverchyld 1 week ago
@poobearpanda345 Clearly you are limited to a literal interpretation only. Read BETWEEN the lines and you might get Taylor's message.
KiraBeauty 1 week ago
@KiraBeauty Yeah, I get it. The imaginary dinner guest was interested his salary and Taylor was saying the difference he makes to kids' lives is more important. And no I didn't need to watch it again but I did.
poobearpanda345 1 week ago
Teachers have to be extremely intelligent. Having the knowledge to teacher yourself one way and be able to teach someone else the way they learn is much more difficult then it appears. I am going to become a teacher to change peoples lives, and to help educated the people who can, and will, change the world.
Dylan13Collins 2 weeks ago
@nothingtearsthebest yes I am dyslexic all I'm saying is that Americas educational system is pretty bad.
davekauai025 2 weeks ago
@davekauai025 I am also dyslexic and the only reason why america's educational system is bad is because people don't care enough to educate themselves. If people would try more and ask much more questions, and find out the things they don't know or understand they will become much more educated. Once people realize that school is for them and no one else, and students get out of it what they put into it. Americans will learn much more and our education system won't be so bad.
Dylan13Collins 2 weeks ago
ill tell ya what teatchers make.. teatchers make kids miserable they make school unfavorable they make learning boring and the kids hardly make it through morning because there falling asleep at there desks because they were up till 2 am doing homework. sure there are good teatchers out there like this guy but not mine. ill tell you what im a smart kid but i learned none of what i know in school. ill tell you the truth america needs a new educational system fast. because this one just cant last.
davekauai025 2 weeks ago
@davekauai025
Yes, your grammar truly speaks for how much of a "smart kid" you really are, and how much time you spend in the classroom as opposed to the hall. And let me tell you, if "teatchers" didn't exist, you wouldn't know anything at all.
Nothingtearsthebeast 2 weeks ago
@davekauai025 Oh, please. I'm an honor student and I'm not up to 2am doing homework. Do it when you get home, be responsible for yourself. Don't blame the teacher for your own ignorance and stupidity.
miyoko101 2 weeks ago 2
Why would anybody dislike this? Lol.
joyofthewind2012 2 weeks ago in playlist YouTube Mix for Taylor Mali
I'm thinking of Victor Verhaeghe, the greatest inspiration I've had since I went off to school.
mrbradpainter 2 weeks ago in playlist Favorite videos
If every teacher were like you, I would love school.
Such an inspiration
<3
yourstruelyxo1 2 weeks ago
Damn. I love this guy. "Hey, leave that kid alone! I still cry sometimes don't you?"
MsLissyyy 2 weeks ago
LOVE IT!!!!!!
Mamadragonfly80 2 weeks ago
This idiots commenting here are spouting junk born from bad past experiences. Yes. There are good and bad teachers. Get over it. That's life. This man is explaining what teaching is about and I promise that none of you, not one, would know a God damn thing about anything if you hang been taught by your teachers. Lay off and find something better to do in your spare time than criticizing the people who keep this country afloat
therachel20100 2 weeks ago
I'm in a fairly warm 72 degree room and I got soooo many chills from that!!! Bravo, sir. YOU make the future!!!!
boardluva108 2 weeks ago 55
Those who can, Do. Those who can't, Teach Gym.
BertTheBest123 2 weeks ago
I've been a teacher for 30 years and this is the BEST articulation of what we do, framed perfectly for those who have no idea how important teachers are in the lives of their students. EVERYONE can remember their best (& their worst) teachers. You just remembered yours, didn't you? Taylor Mali speaks for so many of us. THANK U Taylor!
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The time is now to make this a national conversation. Why are teachers in the USA so under-paid and undervalued? "American Teacher" is a movie project that gives focus to this question. Our children, collectively, should be our highest priority. Definitely beautiful!
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kiaweking 2 weeks ago
I hated taking science from the gym teacher.
CorenMHR 3 weeks ago 2
@CorenMHR LMAO!
09Islandking 2 weeks ago
"I have a policy about honesty and ass-kicking. Which is, if you ask for it, I have to let you have it."
ZangetsusGirl 3 weeks ago
Just amazing in every way. Love it.
NatNoonanS 3 weeks ago
Only a couple of "G-d-" words to push people away, after the finger shot (the last 10 seconds or so).
sadsongsishere 3 weeks ago
Salient...
shenkm87 3 weeks ago
I hate him already...
miislaborinquen 3 weeks ago
@jbx20, just to clarify, we don't collect a 'fat paycheck' or get summers off. As a teacher, you get the same salary every year but are given different options as to how to spread it out throughout the year. I personally choose to not get paid during the summer so I can make it through the academic year, and I waitress during my vacations. We spend the entire summer creating curriculum plans for the following year's state requirements, so we do in fact work hard all year.
merikelley1 3 weeks ago 43
@merikelley1 fail
tootso2001 3 weeks ago
at what?
merikelley1 3 weeks ago
Still amazing. Thank you Mr Mali.
Broshmosh 3 weeks ago
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You make kids never read another book after high school, you make them drop out from boredom and hopelessness, you teach them about class favorites and unfair marking, you make them "just no good at math" and proud of it and part of their identity, you make them not tell the difference between your and you're, and then you get summers off and collect a fat paycheck.
jbx20 3 weeks ago
@jbx20 You are shit. You have no idea what it means to be a teacher and the influence it can enact for children. You have your hear so far up your ass that you only speak bullshit now. Shut the hell up and go away. Dumbass.
Bludgeoned2DEATH2 3 weeks ago
@jbx20 perhaps your teachers weren't all that great, but my high school teachers were and if you are going to put down teachers as a whole then screw you man because my teacher made a difference in the lives of each and every one of the eighty-five people i graduated with and it is because of them that I am studying to become a History and Music professor.
caleb1rshelton 3 weeks ago
I like the emotion, but that's all there is to this video. It's educationiness (cf. truthiness) at best. So your in-laws ribbed you a little bit about your income? That means you can go off on them. Defensive much?
Joshbuckler 3 weeks ago
@Joshbuckler Educationiness?
ThePrincessofRandom 4 days ago
@ThePrincessofRandom Educationiness: when students pretend to be interested in school in order to impress their teachers into giving them good grades they don't deserve. "Oh my God I love math sooooo much!" And when teachers use an announcer voice to try and make historical figures sound cool. And philosophical name-dropping. All the trappings of an educational environment without any of the substance.
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whatevaalready 3 weeks ago
@MrJimmyLocksmith Thanks for the replies. I have the utmost respect for teachers. I just get annoyed at people who are constantly on their high horse, so to speak. And, even though i still disagree with the bathroom thing i respect you and appreciate your thoughts on it. Thanks for what you do and have a nice day.
Derekmf23 3 weeks ago
I am proud to say that when I was 22, I decided to become a teacher. It was a combination of SLC Punk, a half dozen kids I mentor and one painful afternoon of tutoring where the kid finally had an "aha" moment, which made it all worth it. I see so many kids that remind me of me as a kid: over intelligent and under stimulated. I call my students colleagues because often I learn as much from them as they from me. And teaching takes more hard work and virtue than I thought I was capable of.
MrJimmyLocksmith 3 weeks ago
For you teachers here arguing about how the video is untrue and may very well be 80% bullshit, well ur 100% wrong. I support this guy and what he is saying. I came to the U.S. 2 years ago and spoke no English, knew nothing about math, or history. All i had was my brain and my teacher. He made all the difference for me, taught me everything i need for the long run, like every other teacher would. Now i see kids like me who does not appreciate that. Kids should really pull their pants up and learn
REMYnSTUFF 3 weeks ago 3
Now granted, this is my first time listening to this guy. I was unfamiliar with him all together until a few minutes ago. But, is it just me or does he seem like a bit of a pompous ass? I'll be the first to admit, maybe I'm just reading too far into it but... how is someone asking a teacher what they make any different from asking an accountant or a mechanic? Seems a little over the top. Also, it's not his place to judge whether a kid has to pee or is just "bored."
Derekmf23 3 weeks ago
@Derekmf23 Teachers don't like it when people trivialize our jobs or measure it simply in dollars. My grandmother once said that often we become teachers because we're not good enough for anything else and I went off on her. A mechanic or accountant doesn't do their job for the same reasons we do. For them it's about dollars and cents. For us, it's about virtue, benevolence, courage, and honor (ideally speaking). It's about helping and caring. It's not a job. It's a life.
MrJimmyLocksmith 3 weeks ago
@MrJimmyLocksmith I don't want to put down teachers over all but please realize that teachers aren't the only ones who see their "jobs" as a way of life. Computers got in my blood 30 years ago and if I didn't love it I might get a 9-5 job. But I don't mind staying up to 3am working on a program or fine-tuning an Internet server for my love. My brother feels the same way about car mechanics. My sister feels the same way about Nursing.
davekeays 3 weeks ago
@davekeays I never said such dedication didn't exist in other professions. The same could be said for my girlfriend and photography, my brother and music, my father and carpentry, and nearly a dozen of my friends and painting.
MrJimmyLocksmith 2 weeks ago
@MrJimmyLocksmith "A mechanic or accountant doesn't do their job for the same reasons we do."
davekeays 2 weeks ago
@davekeays You think maybe he's being speculative? Or maybe that his statement was meant to be taken subjectively and in context? Or maybe you're missing the point? I'm an AV tech and musician who doesn't work for the money and I knew what he meant.
SaintRi 2 weeks ago
@SaintRi I think most of the rest of us are as honorable as those who've chosen the teachers path with the exception of maybe Siddhartha, Jesus, Hindu gurus, etc. Other professions were being trivialized as much as the after-dinner speaker was trivializing teachers.
You are in the arts which is very different than a Balance Sheet juggler, computer decoder, or wrench jockey. People don't see the poetry in code, the beauty of used engine oil, or the art of balancing books. I'm serious.
davekeays 2 weeks ago
@davekeays No one said anything about anyone not being honorable. Everyone has a reason to do their job. I think you're reading too much into it. And I wouldn't call fixing soundboards for ingrates, fiddling with projectors, or replacing cables art.
SaintRi 2 weeks ago
@davekeays I believe that they do
Noilamall 1 week ago
@Derekmf23 And also, yes it is his place. He is the teacher and it is his job to be aware of what is going on in the classroom and make sure the students learn. Therefore, if he knows the kid is just wanting to screw around and not learn, it's part of his job to prevent that. I've told kids to wait on more than one occasion and amazingly, when they have the opportunity to go, all of a sudden, they don't have to anymore, but they did learn how to cite sources and construct arguments.
MrJimmyLocksmith 3 weeks ago
@Derekmf23 For some reason, some people feel the need to criticize teachers by saying that they only became a teacher because they couldn't succeed doing what they 'really' wanted to do or because they get Christmas and summer off, and frankly, it's insulting, and 99% of the time, it's completely inaccurate. Teachers teach because they love children, they love to teach, and they truly want to make a difference.
luansalmon 1 week ago
@dejordyball The cost of living is higher in those states, so naturally their salaries are a bit higher than other states. For the areas those teachers live in, their salaries won't be enough to live off of (especially if they're a single parent).
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mosesmoses2000 4 weeks ago
Stay in denial all you want. Go to any suburban district--Illinois, New York, California-- and actually look at what teachers are making. There is an imaginary world in which teachers earn horrible salaries.
dejordyball 4 weeks ago
I am hard-pressed to call this poetry, but as oratory? Hot damn, this guy is good.
oogenesis 4 weeks ago
@oogenesis this is called prose since it doesn't have a metrical structure, but can be treated like poetry (sans rhyme). Listen to the songs of Red Sovine for prose put to music. Many oratorical speakers do a wonderful job with it- MLK is one of my favorites.
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dunslane 4 weeks ago
I absolutely LOVE anyone who comes to the defense of teachers, I am running for the school board because the current board gave teachers a bad deal.
That said, however --- I couldn't dismiss the author's comment about "I didn't let you go to the bathroom because you're bored and I know you don't have to go". Nobody ever knows that for sure and a kid is left humiliated and devastated if he has an accident. If you suspect a kid is faking that.. you let him go, and then check with the parents!
BeckerHypnosis 4 weeks ago
Speaking of teachers, this guy's "poetry" could have been prevented by a good one...
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mosesmoses2000 1 month ago
As a teacher of over 15 years I have seen teaching change. With the ADD blasting of TV, movies, and video games, we've gotten away from actually learning. Everything is supposed to be "fun for the kids". That wasn't the way I learned. I learned because drill was the way and you know what? It worked. Kids do need to work alone but also with peers. I am sure this guy didn't mean kids always working alone and writing two of the same words all day long. He was making a point.
soulsistahhh 1 month ago
Just awesome.
soulsistahhh 1 month ago
I wish I was a student again and I wish to be taught by this man =).
HolyHealingSmokes 1 month ago
Lots of teachers in my district make $100,000 or more and retire at 58 at 75% for life. Sorry, ain't crying for them.
dejordyball 1 month ago
@dejordyball EL OH EL bull fucking shit you scumbag. I have a sister that has a masters and teaches in one the highest paying districts in the US for 10 years and makes less than 55k a year.
telinit5 1 month ago
@dejordyball Where on earth is that? Cause it isn't anything like that in my state.
av8tor17b 1 month ago
@dejordyball Teachers, dude? Or administrators? To make that kind of salary as a teacher, you'd have to be teaching at the college level, at a high-level state or private university, be in one of the few fields that supports that kind of salary (i.e.: science, engineering, or medicine) AND have tenure. This is out of reach for 90% of teachers in this country, if that.
You know, your ignorance is showing...
oogenesis 4 weeks ago
@dejordyball I sure would like to know what district that is!!! We would all move there, if that's the case. Maybe you should do your research before talking such nonsense to the people who know the real truth.
luansalmon 1 week ago
Huh. As an educator I loved half of this and abhorred the other half. You are espousing many views of teachers that are completely behaviorist pedagogies. Why should children be silent or work alone or drill spelling? Education needs to be interactive and loud and filled with critical thinking and creativity (like poetry slams). I see this is 5 years old - would love to see it updated with some new pedagogy.
erikgreen428 1 month ago 2
@erikgreen428 He was talking about study hall. What you do during study hall is sit, read/write/study. At least that's what study hall was like for me =). I still had time for interaction and all the fun critical thinking out of study hall.
HolyHealingSmokes 1 month ago
@erikgreen428 As a teacher of over 15 years I have seen teaching change. With the ADD blasting of TV, movies, and video games, we've gotten away from actually learning. Everything is supposed to be "fun for the kids". That wasn't the way I learned. I learned because drill was the way and you know what? It worked. Kids do need to work alone but also with peers. I am sure this guy didn't mean kids always working alone and writing two of the same words all day long. He was making a point.
soulsistahhh 1 month ago
wow. that was awesome.
animegirlkitten 1 month ago
Legalize marijuana with Sensible Washington. Stop taking financial aid away from kids who get caught with a little weed.
allawayjared 1 month ago
"I have a policy about answers and ass-kickings. Which is, if you ask for it, I have to let you have it!"
AMEN!
ZangetsusGirl 1 month ago 2
two words- FUCK YES!!!
randommosinosity 1 month ago
FANTASTIC!
billie0502 1 month ago in playlist Slam :Poetry
Mr. Mali speaks to so many levels of the teaching profession. We as teachers need to stick together and not be harrassed or bullied by the powers that be. I'm frustrated as a Canadian in the public school system how our government is trying to do a "makeover" as they have done so well in the US public school system over the past 20 years!!
totallypedro 1 month ago
I want him to be my teacher.
mizzglados 1 month ago 3
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mizzglados 1 month ago
Education is an essential part of the working gears of the world. We spend so much of our lives in school. School shapes who we are, and teachers are the molders. Teachers should be appreciated every day for what they do, just as much as any other profession that takes love and passion to carry out. We're not asking to be worshiped, we're asking to be recognized, just like everyone else. I think Taylor's poem really speaks to that.
merikelley1 1 month ago
i watched this 4 times in 1 hour
noppeltopia 1 month ago
This makes me cry for some reason. So powerful.
ZeY00T00b 1 month ago
Oh, and another thing, I have a 16,000 dollar scholarship that guarantees me a job directly out of college. I agree with tallulah58...take your uninformed idiocy somewhere else.
merikelley1 1 month ago 2
TheWowser2011, I am working hard and I will most definitely graduate. I have a 4.0 GPA and I pay my own way through a private university. I'm going to be an amazing teacher. Maybe before you comment on my ability, you could learn how to spell.
merikelley1 1 month ago 39
TheWowser2011>> "socirety"? Really? Looks like you could have used a good teacher. Go troll somewhere else.
tallulah58 1 month ago 2
"Oh, and 'TheWowser2011"...fuck you, you ignorant bigot." --- hmmme. who will always make more than you, who will always be more valued by socirety than you. Have fun finding a job when you graduate (if you do).
TheWowser2011 1 month ago
merikelly--> your language shows the true qualtiy of our upcomgin teachers? scary
TheWowser2011 1 month ago
0:59-1:05
my favorite part
scaryyougurt 1 month ago
and this is why i want to be a teacher. i abso-fucking-lutely cannot stand people expecting me to "aim higher" or "dream bigger."
thestarsnatcher 1 month ago
I'm studying to be a teacher..this poem inspires me every day. I am passionate about what I do. I wasn't treated well as a student because my dyslexia went misdiagnosed for years. I want to touch the lives of my students and let them know that I know how it feels and they won't be ignored.
In response to; "those who can't do, teach" ....someone had to teach those people how to do what they do, right?
Oh, and 'TheWowser2011"...fuck you, you ignorant bigot.
merikelley1 1 month ago
You wnat to know how much I make? in his case, looks like he makes buffett disappear
TheWowser2011 1 month ago
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What a moron....how cute!!! He calls himself a "Slam Poet". How precious and Noble....Now grow up, shut up, and get a job where you dont require a grant
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TheBannedPoet 1 month ago
I cry every time I watch this because it is hauntingly beautiful
razzledazzle41191 1 month ago
that is exactly what teachers do!!!!!!
polkadotpanda2 1 month ago
This gives me the chills in some spots!
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TheKsk1997 1 month ago
As for doctors not getting a reassuring speech....why? They make enough money and their future is assured...where as teachers are not and once again society has forgotten the debt we owe our teachers in schools.....
daaihya 1 month ago
I find this video awesome....and in response to rconnoly, my sister is a teacher and I am pretty sure she would like this. He is not coddling anybody or reassuring, he is stating plain facts. The point is that education now days has fallen to the way side because people have forgotten what teachers are SUPPOSED to do and that is to teach. Not only subjects but life lessons as well....some of my teachers were role models for me. Don't find that many anymore...
daaihya 1 month ago
thumps up if u thought it was a black man
jpshooterchamp 1 month ago
I hate this speech..I'm a teacher and I find it embarrassing. Our profession shouldn't need to be constantly reassured and coddled. You don't see some loud mouth doctor giving a speech reassuring doctors that they are valued. This guy is annoying.
rconnoly 1 month ago
@rconnoly By definition, if the aforementioned doctor is loudmouthed, then he or she would feel that stating the validity of his or her profession was necessary. He's not trying to reassure teachers of their value; he's trying to remind society about the worth of an effective educator. I'm currently working on my second year in an early college program.
walnutshellwarrior 1 month ago in playlist Slam :Poetry
@rconnoly The educators in my program have a passion, not only for teaching, but for improving the quality of the students' education, which is unparallelled by any high school teacher, instructor, or professor which I have ever had. At the university I attend, very few of the teachers know what it means to be a teacher. When I was in high school, I had exactly one highly effective teacher and about two adequate teachers. This is repulsive.
walnutshellwarrior 1 month ago in playlist Slam :Poetry
@rconnoly Teaching is more than just knowing the material. That's the message Mali is trying to get across. Also, it's a poem, not a speech. There is a difference between a poem and a speech.
walnutshellwarrior 1 month ago in playlist Slam :Poetry
@rconnoly We have to value doctors because we have no choice. Teachers are not regarded as in the same league. There are plenty of people who believe you are replaceable with a part-time grad student or even a textbook. Nor is this poem intended for other teachers. It is a lesson for all or none, should society choose to accept it or not.
HaoWenXiang 1 month ago
-ion of homework or studying for tests. In my opinion you are just saying that what teachers are trying to do for their students is disrupting their right to creativity. But,correct me if I am wrong, isn't that what art class, music class, and English is for?
miamidinphins13 1 month ago
@olneyjeeps I,as an eighth grade student, think that your comments are extremely outlandish and, to be honest, quite rude to many teachers. Referring to your comment on teachers being "control freaks", if you haven't noticed, if there is not some type of control in the classroom then how is the teacher going to teach? I for one think that study halls spent in complete silence is better than having a room full of 20 kids talking while about 3 of them are actually trying to accomplish the complet
miamidinphins13 1 month ago
bitch lawyer got owned.
GumballMachine13 1 month ago
love this
88martyp 1 month ago
This makes me so happy!
MissKirstenNelson 1 month ago
Well it was BEAUTIFUL life and duty until he took the Lords name in vain.
. COMMANDMENT #3 DO NOT take the Lords name in Vain.
We seemingly do not have to be told "not to kill"
motaic 1 month ago
LOVE THIS
alexanra09 1 month ago
this man is so cool
makeiteasyable 1 month ago
I know this is going to sound stupid but what does he mean by the lines ' "leave the kid alone, I still cry sometimes, don't you?" and it was the noblest act of courage I have ever scene', is that the parent talking back to him?
123RileyRoe250 1 month ago
@123RileyRoe250 It only sounded stupid because you said "scene" when the word is "seen"... But he meant that the kid said that to a bully picking on someone. The kid was sticking up to a bully and thats why it was an act of courage...
d3fish3r3 1 month ago
@d3fish3r3 Thanks for clarifying =) and I'm analysing 3 different plays at the moment which is why the whole "scene/seen" thing occurred, thanks once again!
123RileyRoe250 1 month ago
@123RileyRoe250 No problem :) And sorry, Im a grammar nazi sometimes XD I didnt mean to be so rude...
d3fish3r3 1 month ago
This is definitely beautiful, definitely beautiful, definitely beautiful.
I'm relatively new at teaching (5 years), but to say with absolute certainty that students work best in groups or work best alone is foolish. People work in different ways, and part of being effective in teaching is knowing when to allow groups and when to not. In the context of this poem, they definitely are NOT conducive to learning.
boogledoolah 1 month ago
@olneyjeeps: It seems you have quite the opinion about teaching and teachers, and that's fine. However, you should probably learn a little bit more before you pretend to be an authority on the subject. Pedagogy is necessary at times. Andragogy is necessary at times. No study will tell you that pedagogy is useless. Guaranteed.
Also, it's quite impossible to take AP classes through college, well, because they don't exist on the college level. Ever.
boogledoolah 1 month ago
Tbh, if this is a reaction to someone trolling him about pay and what not, do you really think he cares what you guys have to say?
PracticeRoomSessions 1 month ago
This person is amazing!
A comment on the Comments: I taught high school for twelve years in both 'inner city' and 'good' districts. When students want to learn together and help each other, groups are wonderful. When students want to see how little they can do and get away with it, groups enable laziness. Students come in both types. Teachers need the authority to deal with both types and not be told that one size fits all.
mfeil 1 month ago
@rainforeverxx Sorry, psychological testing has shown that working in groups invariably encourages creativity through collaboration. Because you think you are learning more in English is not a valid argument that the method is not sound logic (and yes, I took all AP classes all the way through college). Groups can be harder to control (see any link there?).
When you get to college is when you learn where you learned more, not now.
olneyjeeps 1 month ago
Great Teacher Onizuka? :D Great Teacher Taylor Mani :D
pacaboy44 1 month ago
To MAKE is to control. When will (more) teachers discover that people do work better in groups, that a room full of lemmings forced to be quiet does not inspire the intrinsic desire to learn and grow that so many have stomped into submission.
Extrinsic motivation will forever be nothing more than a tool of control / manipulation. Those who work by extrinsic motivation (money / treats) are doomed to never be as incredible as they can be. Blame the teachers that habitually imprinted that.
olneyjeeps 1 month ago
@olneyjeeps people do not work best in groups. I'm a sophomore in high school. I have an Honors English teacher who absolutely hates having kids work in groups and an AP history teacher who makes us work in groups all the time.
I've learned so much more from English than history.
rainforeverxx 1 month ago
This is absolutely wonderful.
B0Ygenius 1 month ago 2
@jojoviss: I guess you never noticed the mayhem which ensued when garbage collectors went on strike. If one has to whine about what they are paid for what they do, they do not love it and therefore are not doing it anywhere near as good as someone who does. It has been clinically psychologically proven time and time again that using extrinsic "treats" to get subjects to do something kills intrinsic (what should be nurtured) creative desire. (Some) Teachers need to get off power trip.
olneyjeeps 1 month ago
Taylor (and sadly so many teachers) is nothing more than a control freak. One who wishes to help children (or anyone for that matter) does not MAKE, they INSPIRE. It's called Management By Example.
What you get paid should have little value, enjoying what you do is. "Find a profession doing what you love and you will never work a day in your life"
olneyjeeps 1 month ago
@olneyjeeps "Taylor (and sadly so many teachers) is nothing more than a control freak."
Your statement about how you view other human beings based on a single attribute - their chosen profession - tell me absolutely nothing about them. It's your personal subjective view which means it holds no weight and no authority beyond your opinion.
This statement does tell something about you though. And that something is not very flattering...
mkarnerfors 1 month ago
@mkarnerfors ROTFLMAO My statement is based on my (and others') empirical observations of said group. To delineate my view in detail would fill volumes. I am still waiting for someone to pose a logical response to the analysis that far too many (not all, mind you) teachers use the draconian B.F.Skinner behaviorist methods (treating our children as test animals?) of implements of control.
The inability of others to present a logical argument is what is not flattering.
olneyjeeps 1 month ago
@olneyjeeps You have a valid point about the differences between make and inspire. However, you need to retake ENC1002 where you learn about poetic license. The question he was asked by his dinner guests was not "honestly, what do you inspire?", it was "honestly, what do you make," setting the speaker up for a glorious and INSPIRING pun. Also, nowhere in the poem does he "whine" about how much money he makes.
ViveLeRamen 1 month ago