its like people on the series its like there best mates with him i mean what the fuck do they no he could be a bad person for all we no and some one covered up for him like for instance he said to one ov his decendants give a good word for me and ile give you a loaf ov bread and a bum spread the word lad how does people no what he did and how he did it they just exagerate
@hemlei "Forgive him father, he knows not what he is saying" Familiar to you? What you're saying discusts me, Jesus came to give second chances to people like you so that life doesn't end as everybody in hell. You should be ashamed
all anyone does is think about them self. if u think about someone else thinking about u, ur thinking about ur self thinking about ur self. when u think about god, u think about ur self. why would we wanna learn about the world? the universe? god? because we r learning about our self. its impossible for u to think of anyone other than ur self. thats why life is so god damn perfect and thats why everyone is so god damn funny hahaha
jesus was born from a virgin, they had a party, u dnt hear bout him for 30 years, pple r pissed at him for sme reason, thn he is killed, then 3 days later he rises from the dead in front of a select few and says he will be back the same way he came? thats bullshit. jesus was born like anyone else, u dnt hear bout him for 30 years cuz they took that part out, he became awakened to himself aka god, then he was killed by liars 4 tellin the truth, cuz they wanted people to worship them not god
jesus told people that the king wasnt god and that god is in us and all around us. jesus was telling people not to pay tax, to use their minds to help each other. the kingdom of heaven is all around us. an atack on any1 is an atack on god. jesus told people the truth, liars killed him to cover up their lies, then they lied about what jesus told people. god is all consciousness. god experiences himself though us, we r god. god is watching himself wake up. look at technology, look at the facts
god did not say not to eat the fruit of knowledge, god wants us to eat, thats the point of our existence to learn. liars trying to make them selves seem great said that. jesus never said he was different either. we are god. jesus told people he was the same, liars said he was different. god is explained in a way that doesnt make sense so people can do things that dont make sense. jesus died for our sins so we wouldnt punish each other not so we would punish each other over who he died for
our mind is gods mind and what we experience every day is the mind of god. all god thinks about is him self, thats all anyone thinks about. what do u think about when u wake up? when u eat? grocery shopping? at work? in class? ur self! haha the devil trying to be greater than god is pple trying to be greater than each other and control each other. jesus was killed because he was teaching pple how to be god. hell is a place ur alive just to die, the devil just doesnt understand his existence
god and the devil is consciousness and its self. what is god learning from our existence? about his own existence. life is gods journey inward of enlightenment. what am i? how do i become me? god is everythin. every1 is unique cuz god is unique, every1 is the same cuz god is the same. god is something outside of us cuz god is something outside of him self, god is somethin inside of us cuz god is somethin inside of himself. the govrnment is satan at work. jesus was killed by the government
westerners dont read bhavisya purana and they deny its importance. they only craze about the stupid predictions of nostrademus. jesus was a buddist and there is physical as well as documental evidence of it...
Jesus was just a man, a good man, true, but; an ignorant man . He knew no more than what he had been taught, which was very little. He came to believe the end of the world was near and thus his preaching reflects that. If he had been more educated. perhaps then he would have seen through the foolishness of his beliefs, and would have just concentrated on the love thy neighbor concepts, and disgarded the silly stuff about the coming kingdom.
@Slik00Silk Wow you take religious texts seriously.The kingdom coming is a metaphor. Fear is best way to control humans.. the one instinct that makes them weakest.Tell them be moral and they will ask why? tell them u burn in hell and they all fall in order.Won't God know our weakness..?The bible is about Jesus being a Shepperd,The Shepperd of unwise humans who needed to have their lifestyle fixed.It's about building a good and happy world.perhaps too good for us to ever have...
How can be it possible? A human being become the creator of the universe, Jesus was just a human , he was a wise man , considering him as supernatural without any evidence is foolishness. Bible is man made , This century is different than all , we developed a lot, Our creator cannot just born this simple mother earth for crucification, i thin we never know who is our god really. Jesus was a simple person, all other things are man made..Thumbs up if you agree...
@superwikiboy The only thing that is impossible is impossibility. One is the creator of One's universe, One creates One's reality. The Bible is a book full of life lessons and metaphorical stories that One is meant to learn from, not kill and fight over. You are Jesus in your metaphorical bible you call your life. That is why Christian means to be Christ like. He is the hero of the story like Superman or Spiderman, a roll model for One's time in the physical realms.
@perceptionsevrything This is the most best modern example you can give to some one regarding the bible.The puritans would cringe at the comparison but Jesus was THE rebel.
you cannot assume truth, oh wait let me guess thats called having faith right, I assume the vatican is purposely withholding written gospels which would change our perception of Jesus.
MATTHEW 24:24 For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect.
I bought the CDs from the Desposynichurch website and the CDs talk about the lost years of Jesus Ben Panther. The info sounds and rings true. $5 of every CD sold goes to AIDS orphans in Africa.
Right of the starting gate this documentary was bullshit since it bases everything on Bethlehem and Nazareth which booth town did not exist in the time of Jesus. The premise is false and thus the rest that is built on the premise is a best speculation.
I will have to do some digging but I believe I came across an article several years ago that proved Nazareth didn't even exist as a town at the time of Christ - perhaps someone can verify this??
Christ's life is your life. Have you been reborn from being a human doing mammal to being a human being, a virgin birth, transcending money, sex, power, fame, fears and desires? The history matters naught. What matters is are you happy? How does it work for you? Now?
OK, so how do you make the jump? No information about the guy... Some guys make up some shit... To The guy actually exists. Things, agreed on to be true!!! WTF is this crap.
If you wish to understand the mendacious hoohah about Christ's 'missing years', listen to the talk by Constance Cumbey on You Tube. This is about the New Age Messiah/ Maitreya. See also 'Aquarius - Age of Evil' by Keith Thompson and the video's of Chris White of NowhereToRun1984.
from what I watched of this program it's clear these people have no concept of average Jewish life and that to become a Rabbi was highly sought after Jesus during the so called "missing years" was learning the trade of Joseph so as to help the family provide for each other Mary had the highest position in Jewish life as a mother she was not required to follow many religious laws that were written so that she could take care of her household and give her kids a full education including Torah
In the bible it says in many different verses that before and after the flood that there were giants on the Earth. Look up giant human skeletons. It's right there. Some of them have been found to be up to 36 feet tall. Also they found Noahs ark right where the bible says. Just because you can't see God doesn't mean he's not there.
National Geographic doesnt do its homework they get a few nuts to ramble on about their "knowledge". Sure there is alot we dont know yet there Is historic writings and archeological finds of this time of His Life. Yoseph of Arimathea and Yeshua were in Glastonbury much of this time and yet him and his uncle traveled according to the trade of his uncle the tin man, same relative that was given the body following crusifixtion. STUDY national Geo STUDY
Jesus was very real.. his name was Sananda.. Christianity has transformed Sananda into a diety... If you take the time to look up the keywords: Horus, Isis, Zeitgeist and about a million more keywords you would discover truth you never imagined possible
@Poohpoodoo LOOOL, what you just said made it way more funnier. I have no idea who you mean by G-d, but G-d is short for a previously very famous Korean singer, G-dragon. Type G-d into Google search and it should be the the first choice to pop up. Anyways, so now Jesus has 3 fathers and 1 mother? God, G-dragon, Joesph, and Mary? I believe you are bull-shitting me.
@PandaMagicFTW squoinked: "G-d is short for a previously very famous Korean singer, G-dragon. Type G-d into Google search and it should be the the first choice to pop up."
I just googled G-d, and the first page of results (100 of 'em) give me not even ONE G-dragon. Instead, I got mostly General Dynamics crap...but the first result is "GD Graphics Library".
this is all bs yeshua and john went to receive a Essen education until they were 13 or so then parted ways john made his way back home before yeshua who went into Kashmir and he was not a jew , anymore than he was catholic or baptist
Ohh ye of little faith.....don't you know religion is of man while spirituality is of the lord. You donot research the spirit but you feel it when it speaks. That's how you know the truth. Many have questioned the lord's existance but I ask you this. If you were told the the raw truth by mouth....would you believe it? If Jesus Christ himself were to speak to you on this site....would you believe it to be him? But I say to you...your soul will know true spirituality...TRUTH
Jesus is real, yet his name and story was exaggerated and manipulated. The nicene creed and priests of the catholic church made sure the sheeple remained sheep as they have herded the christians and catholics to the enslaving bondage of the material realm. It's up to the sovereign soul to decide when they find the truth. Explain Amos 5:8 if you know the Lord. And explain why every ancient sacred temple is aligned with Pleiades. Seek the light and leave the illusion realm
@GotAmmo21 declared: "Their is no proof that Jesus ever lived except the bible and thats all bullshit."
Quite right. Where does National Geographic get off by presenting its "scientific" material as if Jesus even existed in the first place? Sounds like KKKristian propaganda to me! Maybe the Vatican made a secret purchase of Nat. Geo.?
If he read from the scroll of the prophets at the temple it was NOT in Aramaic but Hebrew. 'Hypothesized life of Jesus' is the key phrase here. It's all hypothetical & bullshit. The son of god would know everything, he knew he would die to save man, he knew he would be betrayed. His life & death was ordained so don't think bad of Judas he also was ordained, if you believe. But it's still BULLSHIT no matter how you paint it.
I don't know about you guys, but I am heavily skeptical about any "god" whose only means of spreading their "word" around....is through the testimony of other people.
Why did Jesus have to "Learn" anything? wasn't he this god thing in human form? If he was god than he knew all, for he created all and he should have been able to speak all languages as soon as he was born right? ya, you don't teach the teacher. Oh and by the way the odds on Jesus being born on Dec. 25th are only 365 to 1. Coulda happen right LOL
Jesus never existed it was a damn HERO story just like the thousands of good vs evil movies made today. Vicarious redemption was as good as early humans could do in being creative.
The basque people are the originators of the rh negative blood..the basques are of a holy bloodline...can u say atlanteans?¿ the cromagnon man evolved into the basque man and the white race was founded on the frame of the basque male n basque female..both anthropologists n linguists agree basque is descended from a cromagnon language.The church concealed the truth from us..this is hidden history but the secret is out....people should know this as its an important discovery.
@winterstellar their was a real jesus who knew and was taught secrecy of the world and on is ownway tried to teach the man back then but no one understood him but let me reassure you he was not a son god he was only a man with big knowleg ,he was a man with a head of is time,he tried to tell us who we were where we csmr from ect..but religion at the end hijack is cararector to form a religion cause religion is the best way to enslave us and manipulate us but him just knewand tried to warn us
The missing years are not important. What happened in His last years are what count. Well that's what I think. We don't have information the apostles from 12 - 30 or Potntius Pilate or anyone from that era. not too imortant really.
"Our race is the Master Race. We are divine gods on this planet. We are as different from the inferior races as they are from insects. In fact, compared to our race, other races are beasts and animals, cattle at best. Other races are considered as human excrement. Our destiny is to rule over the inferior races. Our earthly kingdom will be ruled by our leader with a rod of iron. The masses will lick our feet and serve us as our slaves."
— Menachem Begin – Israeli Prime Minister 1977–1983
Historically, Jesus' mother Mary followed him about with his disciples. When it came time for his crucifixion, he handed over the responsibility of her to the disciple (John) who seemed to have the firmest understanding of the virtue called "love". I think that transference implies he was caring for her even while tending to his 3+ year itinerant ministry. Shunning her is absolutely absurd in light of the "best documentation" historians have.
Jesus is buried in Joseph of Arimathea's. Joseph was a trader in tin. The source was kept secret because tin was of great valuable. Joseph traded with Britain at tins mines in Cornwall.
There is a legend that Jesus came with Joseph of Arimathea to Cornwall to trade in tin. Blake writes in his hymn Jerusalem;' And did those feet in ancient times walk upon England's pastures green?' I like to believe this is true. That Jesus travelled to Britain and for these years was busy and care free.
If you want to read about the Life of Jesus then the Urantia Book is a must read. The fourth part of the book contains the story of His entire life. Decide for yourself if it is a true revelation of His life or not.
The Silk Road was a true adventure to a 12 yr. old during the time of Jesus. These travelers often conversed with Jesus about their ideology and a curious boy would probably dream of leaving a small town like Nazareth and explore God's created kingdom far far away from Rome
He never existed, that's almost certain. But in the jewish culture back then men weren't regarded as fully adult or worthy of respect until they were 30, so any deity/god they would make up it would only be natural to make a 30 year old.: )
@winterstellar Just did. It's the same refuted - only on internet sites - arguments. Jesus' historicity is fact due to the subject of sociology science.
@winterstellar This post is in an incoherent response to what i've said.. i also have no idea where you got that stuff about 30 year olds. As i said, study the laws with in sociology and social science if you slept through in highschool or if you haven't reached the level. You can make all these claims about writers, etc.. but until you actually give an argument in explanation to how sociology talks about Cults, you are just the same academic fallacious anti-theist.
@cisco19 I messed it up, sorry. I happened to post it while editing it, so it looked a bit incoherent and weird. But anyway, as long as there is no evidence for his existence, and the only two sources are the fake entry Eusebius made in Flavius' chronicles, and Tacitus' talking about christians there is no reason to think he existed for real. I have a video on my page about this right now, about 35 contemporary sources that did not mention any "Jesus" and so on. : )
@winterstellar Why are those two sources that significant to you for his historicity? So what if the Eusebius and Tacitus is fake? Regardless, the tacitus is another back up for the Sociology science i gave. As i said before, study as to how cults originated during that time. Tacitus talks about christians, which during that time was a CULT. And Sociology and Social Science deems fact, that cults can only start from a central figure/teacher.
@winterstellar Paul? How can it be Paul, when the book of Acts was written by Luke (who was a historian)? The book of acts is actually considered by scholars to be the most historical accurate of the NT, it parallels some of the stuff/events written in Josephus' book. If Paul created christianity, how come he shares stuff referenced in the 4 gospels? And what about the death records of the Apostles?
@winterstellar Ya Paul came before the gospels, yes. So where he did he get his sources from? Gradually, the books (gospels to the epistles) where not known by many during that time. So how does Paul know all this stuff, if the gospels where not made yet? Acts shows that the apostles where before Paul, and those Apostles have death records. So there is a whole in your argument about Paul being the first.
Please don't give me a documentary, you kids need to know that you should rely on google or random discovery channel stuff as support for an argument. It's shows that you are academically ignorant and just mouthing of entertainment information and taking it of value. There are countless of Pro-christian documentaries that i'm not bias enough to consider as legit information.. should i show that to you?
@cisco19 - Reading through a few of your comments, very interesting. Think I should point out that I'm in the "Jesus never existed" camp and the "Paul never existed" camp.
I've done some research on the canonical gospels and believe they where written during the reign of Vespasian (the father) and Titus (the good son). I think the Pauline epistles, GJohn and Revelations came later under Domitian (the holy spirit) - The "holy spirit" is more visible in these works.
@winterstellar "messiases"? You don't even know the proper word and forcing a debate on this subject?
Anyway, Who where these Messiahs, and how many writings and where are the track records of their contemporaries? If you are going to criticize the authenticity of the writings of Jesus due to quantity and time line, then why are you talking about other "chrestoses" as if they existed? Just going by your logic here.
@cisco19 Oh yes, those guys ARE well documented by contemporaries(Unlike "Jesus") I can find them and name them easily. I'll get back to you on that:)
And you don't have to be a sociology major to understand that a story spread through word of mouth by ancient primitives could not stay anywhere near accurate for any lenght of time, and 40 years or whatever the christians claim, that would be impossible.
@winterstellar Sociology major? You learn that in highschool. Do i need to have a science major to describe condensation? No. You don't need a major to say that Cults need a central figure/teacher. It's common sense. Unless you think this word of mouth just came out of thin air.
Even Atheist Historian Michael Grant says: The Jesus myth is academically annihilated. The creeds of Christianity are recorded around the late 30 AD's, so who cares about the writing?
Oh, the fact that you called the people of 1st century Palestine "primitives" shows allot of how ignorant you are. This "jesus never existed" is a 10 year refuted argument, you're late. You say writings came 40 years after, which isn't wrong.. because if you read history books and read Will Durant's books, legends and myths during that time take more than 2 generations to evolve. Scholars have stated that any source dating with in 150 years from the person is a historical reference.
There are two Bethlehem's. One in the North and one in the South. Bible tells you he was called out of Egypt. Alexandria had the greatest place of study in the world. There were also healing temples and Buddhists monks. Hence why the parallel of his teachings with Buddha are remarkable. Martin Palmer wrote a book on the sayings of them both and their alignment.
From the ashes a fire shall be woken; A light from the shadows shall spring; Renewed shall be blade that was broken; The crownless again shall be king.
The fellowship of the ring, 1993 paperback edition, page 324.
why is it a mystery? why does the question even rate?
we were not told in the Bible in any detail, so we do not need to know.
they want additional detail as they think that what is given is not sufficient. But if Christ is God it IS sufficient. But if he were not then it is totally trivial
besides it is most likely he was simply a carpenter's son who lived in total obscurity until his time came
@Strefanasha To be honest, the reason why God made himself a mystery is because trying to understand him would be like an ant trying to read the declaration of independence! So to summarize and simplify things, he says he is the Son of God and Man (because of the union between the holy spirit and Mary) The Holy trinity itself is a mystery as well. God the Father, God the Son, and God the Holy Spirit. 3 divine beings in one. How are they related or similar with each other? I guess that's mystery
John 14:15 If you love me, you will keep my commandments. 16 And I will ask the Father, and he will give you another Helper(Holy Spirit), to be with you forever, 17 even the Spirit of truth, whom the world cannot receive, because it neither sees him nor knows him. You know him, for he dwells with you and will be in you.
John15:21 But all these things they will do to you on account of my name, because they do not know him who sent me. 22 If I had not come and spoken to them, they would not have been guilty of sin, but now they have no excuse for their sin. 23 Whoever hates me hates my Father also.
Hi...People today don't know the working of GOD in social or political level...they thing that some mystical man or woman...is GOD & when they come then only every thing would be right again....GOD or Allah ....directly work through the social system previously handled by the Temples..spread all parts of the world...GOD means...Governess over death...& Allah means...The light day Night burns in the temple...for people's benefits...That place called Allah...but today people are not attached with
It is fascinating to me how many are so interested in the "lost years" of Christ when they are not even interested in the gospels. The info for the lost years come from heretical and apocryphal writings from the 2nd and 3rd centuries and are highly unreliable, compared to the gospels that were written the the 1st century. You wanna know the truth? Read the Bible from cover to cover and ask God to show you if it is real....
@sp30ful..How could you deem writings from the 2nd or 3rd cent. heretical when the gospels themselves were written late 1st century into early 2nd century; at earliest, decades removed from Christ. At best 2 of the four writers actually knew Jesus and even that is questionable.
When Christ asks you at judgment, "Who do you say I am?" Make sure you give the pre-Novus Ordo Council answer, "God." If you give God the common Masonic answer out of the Gnostic bible, "you are the son of a burning bush fire (the lord)", you will quickly learn what this world was about and you will have an eternity to pay for it. As the Traditional Catholic Church breathes its last breath, the New Order replaces it. Will you have the knowledge to stand?
With deep earnestness the mother of Jesus watched the unfolding of His powers, and beheld the impress of perfection upon His character. With delight she sought to encourage that bright, receptive mind. Through the Holy Spirit she received wisdom to co-operate with the heavenly agencies in the development of this child, who could claim only God as His Father.
Basque villages were devastated by bombs,Franco's bombers pursued the ships,but they arrived safely.Basque children who were orphaned were adopted by the British people.God gathers the various remnants of His chosen race in His own way and in His own good time.We leave our Basque brethren in the Pyrenees til the day when "Their seed shall be known among the Gentiles, and their offspring among the peoples; all who see them shall acknowledge them, that they are the seed the Lord has blessed."
I think Jesus prob stayed close to Nazerath and his family.Seems from the scriptures that people knew him and his family. If he went anywhere, I doubt it was for more than 5 to 10 years before he started preaching. I think Joseph died shortly before the water to wine miricle.It wasnt long after that he was in the synagoge, the question arose about him being the son of the carpenter so Joseph was remembered then.They also say he never learned letters so the locals had track knowledge of Jesus.
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Jews believe in the Messiah, they just dont believe it was Jesus, they are still waiting for the Messiah, when he comes to them do you think he will need to be educated by anyone at some point? No Jesus didnt learn to read in his missing years, nor did he learn from yoga masters or Hindu mystics or any other such thing, Jesus probably was sailing on Joseph of Arimathea's( Mary's rich uncle and guardian) ships as a merchant marine. JofA sailed the Mediterranean to Rome, Spain, France, England.
The pope dies and goes to heaven. He stood before St Peter, and St Peter says "Who are you?" The pope replies"I am the pope, the leader of the Catholic church." I'm sorry I don't know who you are" St Peter states, "Let me go ask God" St Peter goes to God and asks "God tere is a guy out here that says he is the leader of the Catholic church." Jesus says" I will go and find out what is going on."
@MrLesWhite No, the area was called Judea, it was the Roman Emperor Hadrian who called it the land of the Philistines( Palestine) to stick it to the Jews who were a thorn in his side.
you think somebody rise up from the dead and then talk to his friends, what's the purpose of this?some people wants you to believe on something that is not believable up to this time, let us analyze the story and think realistically..less talk you research more, and then report to me.
chickenshitt-think in a broader perspective ok?that's why you named yourself a chiken shit, coz you are indeed a chicken shit, haters are different from logical mind, before you believe in something you think deep, don't you know that you probably wasted your life believing what you believe?hahahaha try to see the big picture, and research more child..you might stumble on something real
sp30ful, jesus is a myth in a sense that story in favor of him were fabricated, yes maybe he was real then but as a person and not a son of a fucking virgin? grow up open your eyes and study more...a virgin?delivers a son?think about it, it's not even logical...and then you say that's a miracle..well miracle me, be rational enough
@alakdanism Your lack of vocabulary to show your frustration shows your immaturity as an individual. What evidence to you have to back up your assertions using your limited vocabulary?
@TheDarvus : Calm down... Yes, it's really clear to me, you have nothing to support what you believe. It's always the same. Do I am surprised? NO. But you are not obliged to feel threatened by this...
..getting his freak on with mary magdelane no doubt, and nothing wrong with that either. catholic church nazis have done nothing but distort jesus real message as far as i can see
not body knows nothing about those time but is because this was and still is the planet of the fallen angel he use 2 have the key of life and dead (this is like a monkey with a knife) so for him 2 deceive evil he live a poor in a poor neighborhood for he was the creator he's the most intelligent been in the whole universe when he grow he show who he was in a very few years clean mother earth with his blood die so the seed that was within him which is the holy spirit that u and me have.
@TheDarvus ''I am talking about before Constantine. You can argue that Constantine changed this or that but Christianity and Jesus where Roman creations anyway. The biblical patriarchs are all fictional characters and always have been.''
I quote you just up here, You talk about ''The biblical patriarchs''? The Bible is the same as the Torah. New Testament is another thing.
Then if you said the biblical patriarchs are all fiction, Then its have to be the same for the Torah. It's not different!
@TheDarvus : Do you have evidence of that, I mean documents that prove what you say. Because if it's true, it would mean that the Torah (talking about the Hebrew version) is completely invented, from A to Z. The Jews who meticulously transcribed (in these times) the Torah, by counting each letter, each word, each paragraph etc, for example (such letter counted 30000 times or so paragraphs beginning with this letter counted 4000 times etc)
The poor, they would have done all this for nothing?
I believe he spent a lot of his spare time playing the drums. If Jesus was really into Love, I'd think he would want to be able to talk to others about what Love means.
Since our hearts set the rhythms of life, the drums are the key to Love. Drums and Love are synonymous which means that Jesus would have known a great deal about drums.
@TheDarvus : But it's true to say that Catholicism has bring a lot in education and knowledge. Although and sadly, they lost the true message of Jesus and His meaning in the name of power.
@liduq "they lost the true message of Jesus and His meaning in the name of power."
Mt 16.18-19 ; Lk 10.16 ; Jn 20.23 ; 21.17
ONLY the Apostles, and Peter in particular, were given Power on Earth. The Catholic Church is built on Apostollic Succession.
To say that Catholicism lost the True Message of Jesus is a heresy, since it's the ONLY True Holy Apostollic Church there is, the One that was founded by JC Himself, to which he promised to Holy Spirit to guide and protect it, with infaillibility
@Gazdo01 : ''To say that Catholicism lost the True Message of Jesus is a heresy,''
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Do you know what is the meaning of the cross that pope J.P. II and the current one show in front of everyone? It's a cross made by a satanist goup, about 200 years ago, in order to humiliate Jesus. And J.P. II has decided to use it. He knew perfectly well what this cross represents. Heretic you say? Dont tell me it's hearsay, search.
Yes, Catholicism lost the Word of God, and this, very long time ago.
@liduq Hahahahahahaha! Are you trying to be funny? Your opinion is dangerous. I don't know what kind of sect manipulated your brain, but it's scary to see how much stupidity can be put in a tiny mind like yours.
Sure, continue on believing your bullshit anti-catholic propaganda. The Church doesn't suffer a lot by losing such a poor mind as yours. I'll stick with St Augustin, St Thomas Aquinas, and the rest of the Church Fathers and Doctors, who gave their lives in understanding Scriptures.
@Gazdo01 To say that Catholicism lost the True Message of Jesus is a heresy,
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I know that most of catholic dont read their Bible, or worse, they dont even have one. But if you have one, read the Book of revelation, specifically 17:1-6, you will recognize who is the prostitute. Who has killed Christians only because they wanted to read the Word of God, the Bible.
@liduq Attacking Catholicism on the basis of "so called" catholics is a fallacy.
And that's funny... using a book that The Catholic Church declared canonical (forgetting by the way that it's canonicity is BASED on the authority of the Church) and trying to use it against the Mother Church.
It's pathetic. You people don't even realize the implications of your heresies.
@liduq The only ones that can be rightfully called prostitutes are the ones attacking their Mother the Church. Jesus promised Unity as a Sign of His Church... What do we see? 30 000+ so called "christian" sects in the world since the first heretics decided to leave the Church. 30 000+ sects that dispute themselves about major doctrinal points.
So sad to see that people don't realize the NECESSITY of a living voice to be sure not to err.
@Gazdo01 To say that Catholicism lost the True Message of Jesus is a heresy
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The majority of the clergy dont even believe in Christ The Messiah! The popes consider themselves equal to God on earth, and priests as Jesus. That is heresy! They even consider themselves as infallible! What, they are not sinners! If this is not heresy...
@Gazdo01 To say that Catholicism lost the True Message of Jesus is a heresy,
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Every statues at Vatican are gods from Babylone. They just gave them names of Saints. However, God has been very clear on pictures and statues, and the fact to bow and worship them. And that's not an excuse to say that you dont worship them as god. Catholics bow in front of them and pray them. Where this is come from? It's idolatry. Is Jesus taught us to pray to Mary, Saints and Angles?
@liduq Lol this is getting more stupid then I taught. You've been influenced by false anti-catholic propaganda, and you really believe that with 500 caracters messages, you'll be able to destroy 2000 years of exquisite Catholic theology. Pretty naive I must say!
Your questions are so elementary (they've all being resolved between 1200 and 1600 years ago) that I won't even bother answer.
The intelligent person will seak the OFFICIAL explinations in the Catholic Cathechism and in Summa Theologiae.
@Gazdo01 To say that Catholicism lost the True Message of Jesus is a heresy,
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Before saying to someone is a heretic (favorite word of the Vatican) you should learn about the history of the papacy, the Black pope (Jesuits, real bloody killer, worse than mohammad), and about satanism that thrives in the Vatican like microbes in the humidity. If the apostles could move and knew what the Vatican is in reality, they would turn in their graves.
@liduq The role of the Church is to definite and denounce heresies, in order to protect its members from error.
About the popes... the dogma doesn't say that popes are perfect or sinless. They too can and will pay for actions commited, and can be sentence to Hell.
As for all your "satanic" bullshit, I'll leave it as it is... bullshit!
If that's what drove you away from the One True Holy Apostollic Catholic Church, then you don't deserve to be called Catholic in the first place.
@Gazdo01 To say that Catholicism lost the True Message of Jesus is a heresy,
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Jesus teach us how to enter the Heaven too. (Confess your sins, Repent, be baptized and then, be born again) Is that what catholics do? Did I confess at 3 days old? Did I repent at 3 days old? Did Jesus teach us to confess to a priest?
@Gazdo01 To say that Catholicism lost the True Message of Jesus is a heresy,
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Dont tell me I am a heretic because I do what God and Jesus teaches us to do, (Dont believe in men, but look and search for the truth.) Something that most Catholics dont never even bother to do. Because, if Catholics did what God and Jesus teaches us, there would be no more Catholics.
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SpaceCadet929 4 minutes ago
Jesus also not white.
303Miles 5 days ago 2
these things could be true
nicxonjrxxiv 6 days ago
its like people on the series its like there best mates with him i mean what the fuck do they no he could be a bad person for all we no and some one covered up for him like for instance he said to one ov his decendants give a good word for me and ile give you a loaf ov bread and a bum spread the word lad how does people no what he did and how he did it they just exagerate
hemlei 1 week ago
EVIL he is EVIL and i wont rest till his name is brought to justice
hemlei 1 week ago
@hemlei "Forgive him father, he knows not what he is saying" Familiar to you? What you're saying discusts me, Jesus came to give second chances to people like you so that life doesn't end as everybody in hell. You should be ashamed
TheSherlock61 1 week ago
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all anyone does is think about them self. if u think about someone else thinking about u, ur thinking about ur self thinking about ur self. when u think about god, u think about ur self. why would we wanna learn about the world? the universe? god? because we r learning about our self. its impossible for u to think of anyone other than ur self. thats why life is so god damn perfect and thats why everyone is so god damn funny hahaha
noahmrabet 2 weeks ago
@noahmrabet yehhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh man
hemlei 1 week ago
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jesus was born from a virgin, they had a party, u dnt hear bout him for 30 years, pple r pissed at him for sme reason, thn he is killed, then 3 days later he rises from the dead in front of a select few and says he will be back the same way he came? thats bullshit. jesus was born like anyone else, u dnt hear bout him for 30 years cuz they took that part out, he became awakened to himself aka god, then he was killed by liars 4 tellin the truth, cuz they wanted people to worship them not god
noahmrabet 2 weeks ago
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jesus told people that the king wasnt god and that god is in us and all around us. jesus was telling people not to pay tax, to use their minds to help each other. the kingdom of heaven is all around us. an atack on any1 is an atack on god. jesus told people the truth, liars killed him to cover up their lies, then they lied about what jesus told people. god is all consciousness. god experiences himself though us, we r god. god is watching himself wake up. look at technology, look at the facts
noahmrabet 2 weeks ago
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god did not say not to eat the fruit of knowledge, god wants us to eat, thats the point of our existence to learn. liars trying to make them selves seem great said that. jesus never said he was different either. we are god. jesus told people he was the same, liars said he was different. god is explained in a way that doesnt make sense so people can do things that dont make sense. jesus died for our sins so we wouldnt punish each other not so we would punish each other over who he died for
noahmrabet 2 weeks ago
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our mind is gods mind and what we experience every day is the mind of god. all god thinks about is him self, thats all anyone thinks about. what do u think about when u wake up? when u eat? grocery shopping? at work? in class? ur self! haha the devil trying to be greater than god is pple trying to be greater than each other and control each other. jesus was killed because he was teaching pple how to be god. hell is a place ur alive just to die, the devil just doesnt understand his existence
noahmrabet 2 weeks ago
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god and the devil is consciousness and its self. what is god learning from our existence? about his own existence. life is gods journey inward of enlightenment. what am i? how do i become me? god is everythin. every1 is unique cuz god is unique, every1 is the same cuz god is the same. god is something outside of us cuz god is something outside of him self, god is somethin inside of us cuz god is somethin inside of himself. the govrnment is satan at work. jesus was killed by the government
noahmrabet 2 weeks ago
westerners dont read bhavisya purana and they deny its importance. they only craze about the stupid predictions of nostrademus. jesus was a buddist and there is physical as well as documental evidence of it...
rajababu1982 2 weeks ago
@rajababu1982 when will the world end according to bhavisya purana? can u link any article regarding it?
Muralidharan001 1 week ago
Jesus was just a man, a good man, true, but; an ignorant man . He knew no more than what he had been taught, which was very little. He came to believe the end of the world was near and thus his preaching reflects that. If he had been more educated. perhaps then he would have seen through the foolishness of his beliefs, and would have just concentrated on the love thy neighbor concepts, and disgarded the silly stuff about the coming kingdom.
Slik00Silk 2 weeks ago
@Slik00Silk Wow you take religious texts seriously.The kingdom coming is a metaphor. Fear is best way to control humans.. the one instinct that makes them weakest.Tell them be moral and they will ask why? tell them u burn in hell and they all fall in order.Won't God know our weakness..?The bible is about Jesus being a Shepperd,The Shepperd of unwise humans who needed to have their lifestyle fixed.It's about building a good and happy world.perhaps too good for us to ever have...
crazymansdad 2 weeks ago
ik geloof jesus
jeffemy1000 2 weeks ago
Isa, i love you LailaheillAllah
zvezebeze 3 weeks ago
How can be it possible? A human being become the creator of the universe, Jesus was just a human , he was a wise man , considering him as supernatural without any evidence is foolishness. Bible is man made , This century is different than all , we developed a lot, Our creator cannot just born this simple mother earth for crucification, i thin we never know who is our god really. Jesus was a simple person, all other things are man made..Thumbs up if you agree...
superwikiboy 3 weeks ago
@superwikiboy The only thing that is impossible is impossibility. One is the creator of One's universe, One creates One's reality. The Bible is a book full of life lessons and metaphorical stories that One is meant to learn from, not kill and fight over. You are Jesus in your metaphorical bible you call your life. That is why Christian means to be Christ like. He is the hero of the story like Superman or Spiderman, a roll model for One's time in the physical realms.
perceptionsevrything 3 weeks ago
@perceptionsevrything This is the most best modern example you can give to some one regarding the bible.The puritans would cringe at the comparison but Jesus was THE rebel.
crazymansdad 2 weeks ago
you cannot assume truth, oh wait let me guess thats called having faith right, I assume the vatican is purposely withholding written gospels which would change our perception of Jesus.
gr8penutz 3 weeks ago
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MATTHEW 24:24 For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect.
chiptip0 1 month ago
I bought the CDs from the Desposynichurch website and the CDs talk about the lost years of Jesus Ben Panther. The info sounds and rings true. $5 of every CD sold goes to AIDS orphans in Africa.
emmodelee 1 month ago
Right of the starting gate this documentary was bullshit since it bases everything on Bethlehem and Nazareth which booth town did not exist in the time of Jesus. The premise is false and thus the rest that is built on the premise is a best speculation.
EadTaes 1 month ago
There is a desposynichurch group and they also have some interesting information on their website about the lost years of Jesus.
mariahvan1 1 month ago
can anyone tell me the reason for Jesus advent from his own words?
nasulam 1 month ago
i don't get why people "HAVE" to know these small information. There result will always be 100% false. Leave the Bible alone
lowhigh000 1 month ago
I will have to do some digging but I believe I came across an article several years ago that proved Nazareth didn't even exist as a town at the time of Christ - perhaps someone can verify this??
KennyTC63 1 month ago
Only 18 missing years? LOL Hell, there isn't any ACTUAL evidence that 32 or so aren't missing.
gvman3670 1 month ago
Christ's life is your life. Have you been reborn from being a human doing mammal to being a human being, a virgin birth, transcending money, sex, power, fame, fears and desires? The history matters naught. What matters is are you happy? How does it work for you? Now?
jackgoldman1 1 month ago
OK, so how do you make the jump? No information about the guy... Some guys make up some shit... To The guy actually exists. Things, agreed on to be true!!! WTF is this crap.
wondergundy 1 month ago
If you wish to understand the mendacious hoohah about Christ's 'missing years', listen to the talk by Constance Cumbey on You Tube. This is about the New Age Messiah/ Maitreya. See also 'Aquarius - Age of Evil' by Keith Thompson and the video's of Chris White of NowhereToRun1984.
ruthamyallan1 1 month ago
this is pure rubbish
brendanmichaelpix 1 month ago
from what I watched of this program it's clear these people have no concept of average Jewish life and that to become a Rabbi was highly sought after Jesus during the so called "missing years" was learning the trade of Joseph so as to help the family provide for each other Mary had the highest position in Jewish life as a mother she was not required to follow many religious laws that were written so that she could take care of her household and give her kids a full education including Torah
eden362009 1 month ago
I just read many of these misinformed comments below. God help us! Please tell me these are jokes....
RJD1959 2 months ago
In the bible it says in many different verses that before and after the flood that there were giants on the Earth. Look up giant human skeletons. It's right there. Some of them have been found to be up to 36 feet tall. Also they found Noahs ark right where the bible says. Just because you can't see God doesn't mean he's not there.
fudders21 2 months ago
all the atheists kidden themselfs.lol ur all atheists untill ur on ur deathbed & its oh god save me. u ppl know its the truth
davidarthur1985 2 months ago
a historical myth,just like all the other bull of other faiths
kram83au 2 months ago
This is bullshit!!
chrisimma 2 months ago
National Geographic doesnt do its homework they get a few nuts to ramble on about their "knowledge". Sure there is alot we dont know yet there Is historic writings and archeological finds of this time of His Life. Yoseph of Arimathea and Yeshua were in Glastonbury much of this time and yet him and his uncle traveled according to the trade of his uncle the tin man, same relative that was given the body following crusifixtion. STUDY national Geo STUDY
KRU78 2 months ago 2
Jesus was very real.. his name was Sananda.. Christianity has transformed Sananda into a diety... If you take the time to look up the keywords: Horus, Isis, Zeitgeist and about a million more keywords you would discover truth you never imagined possible
aliearia03 2 months ago
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"BELIEVE ONLY IN JESUS BEFORE TOO LATE" OR "BURN IN HELL FOREVER"
"BELIEVE ONLY IN JESUS BEFORE TOO LATE" OR "BURN IN HELL FOREVER"
"BELIEVE ONLY IN JESUS BEFORE TOO LATE" OR "BURN IN HELL FOREVER"
fuckmania07 3 months ago
I feel bad about Jesus's real dad. It's all about his mom Mary and him. No one ever cares about his dad... LOL
PandaMagicFTW 3 months ago
@PandaMagicFTW Nothing funny about that, Jesus's Real Father is G-d.Mary AND Joesph were blessed to Have Jesus as their "earthly" Son.
Poohpoodoo 2 months ago
@Poohpoodoo LOOOL, what you just said made it way more funnier. I have no idea who you mean by G-d, but G-d is short for a previously very famous Korean singer, G-dragon. Type G-d into Google search and it should be the the first choice to pop up. Anyways, so now Jesus has 3 fathers and 1 mother? God, G-dragon, Joesph, and Mary? I believe you are bull-shitting me.
PandaMagicFTW 2 months ago
@PandaMagicFTW squoinked: "G-d is short for a previously very famous Korean singer, G-dragon. Type G-d into Google search and it should be the the first choice to pop up."
I just googled G-d, and the first page of results (100 of 'em) give me not even ONE G-dragon. Instead, I got mostly General Dynamics crap...but the first result is "GD Graphics Library".
You must have a very special search engine.
pewterbot9 2 months ago
@pewterbot9 Type G-d into google search, and don't press enter. It is the first choice under what you have typed.
PandaMagicFTW 2 months ago
this is all bs yeshua and john went to receive a Essen education until they were 13 or so then parted ways john made his way back home before yeshua who went into Kashmir and he was not a jew , anymore than he was catholic or baptist
AlienUFOEncounters 3 months ago
Ohh ye of little faith.....don't you know religion is of man while spirituality is of the lord. You donot research the spirit but you feel it when it speaks. That's how you know the truth. Many have questioned the lord's existance but I ask you this. If you were told the the raw truth by mouth....would you believe it? If Jesus Christ himself were to speak to you on this site....would you believe it to be him? But I say to you...your soul will know true spirituality...TRUTH
ThugG58 3 months ago
Jesus is real, yet his name and story was exaggerated and manipulated. The nicene creed and priests of the catholic church made sure the sheeple remained sheep as they have herded the christians and catholics to the enslaving bondage of the material realm. It's up to the sovereign soul to decide when they find the truth. Explain Amos 5:8 if you know the Lord. And explain why every ancient sacred temple is aligned with Pleiades. Seek the light and leave the illusion realm
aliearia03 3 months ago 2
@aliearia03 Their is no proof that Jesus ever lived except the bible and thats all bullshit.
GotAmmo21 2 months ago
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@GotAmmo21 declared: "Their is no proof that Jesus ever lived except the bible and thats all bullshit."
Quite right. Where does National Geographic get off by presenting its "scientific" material as if Jesus even existed in the first place? Sounds like KKKristian propaganda to me! Maybe the Vatican made a secret purchase of Nat. Geo.?
pewterbot9 2 months ago
If he read from the scroll of the prophets at the temple it was NOT in Aramaic but Hebrew. 'Hypothesized life of Jesus' is the key phrase here. It's all hypothetical & bullshit. The son of god would know everything, he knew he would die to save man, he knew he would be betrayed. His life & death was ordained so don't think bad of Judas he also was ordained, if you believe. But it's still BULLSHIT no matter how you paint it.
kanakaken 3 months ago
I don't know about you guys, but I am heavily skeptical about any "god" whose only means of spreading their "word" around....is through the testimony of other people.
chewface 3 months ago
@chewface good thing yeshua never said he was god , your letting the church replace the teachings of the man
AlienUFOEncounters 3 months ago
Why did Jesus have to "Learn" anything? wasn't he this god thing in human form? If he was god than he knew all, for he created all and he should have been able to speak all languages as soon as he was born right? ya, you don't teach the teacher. Oh and by the way the odds on Jesus being born on Dec. 25th are only 365 to 1. Coulda happen right LOL
live2win100 3 months ago
I think he masturbated alot..
phrtphkbrlz 3 months ago
@phrtphkbrlz god bless you...
kaLaMpagerz 3 months ago
Jesus never existed it was a damn HERO story just like the thousands of good vs evil movies made today. Vicarious redemption was as good as early humans could do in being creative.
MrPurpose79 3 months ago
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The basque people are the originators of the rh negative blood..the basques are of a holy bloodline...can u say atlanteans?¿ the cromagnon man evolved into the basque man and the white race was founded on the frame of the basque male n basque female..both anthropologists n linguists agree basque is descended from a cromagnon language.The church concealed the truth from us..this is hidden history but the secret is out....people should know this as its an important discovery.
TheBasqueLand 3 months ago
Bunch of Mushroom eaters.
CosmosPrivateer 4 months ago
Jesus never even existed for real, it's just an idiotic fairy-tale.
winterstellar 4 months ago
@winterstellar their was a real jesus who knew and was taught secrecy of the world and on is ownway tried to teach the man back then but no one understood him but let me reassure you he was not a son god he was only a man with big knowleg ,he was a man with a head of is time,he tried to tell us who we were where we csmr from ect..but religion at the end hijack is cararector to form a religion cause religion is the best way to enslave us and manipulate us but him just knewand tried to warn us
mystisme 4 months ago
@winterstellar god bless you...
kaLaMpagerz 3 months ago 2
The missing years are not important. What happened in His last years are what count. Well that's what I think. We don't have information the apostles from 12 - 30 or Potntius Pilate or anyone from that era. not too imortant really.
gezzad 4 months ago
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"Our race is the Master Race. We are divine gods on this planet. We are as different from the inferior races as they are from insects. In fact, compared to our race, other races are beasts and animals, cattle at best. Other races are considered as human excrement. Our destiny is to rule over the inferior races. Our earthly kingdom will be ruled by our leader with a rod of iron. The masses will lick our feet and serve us as our slaves."
— Menachem Begin – Israeli Prime Minister 1977–1983
sadliali 4 months ago
according to what i know he went back to heaven during that time then came back to earth at his 30's. is that true?
fhiNkme 4 months ago
Jesus had a father?? well that settles everything lol wow history channel way to put a bunch of speculation together to make this fib more believable
LOGIC42369 4 months ago
Historically, Jesus' mother Mary followed him about with his disciples. When it came time for his crucifixion, he handed over the responsibility of her to the disciple (John) who seemed to have the firmest understanding of the virtue called "love". I think that transference implies he was caring for her even while tending to his 3+ year itinerant ministry. Shunning her is absolutely absurd in light of the "best documentation" historians have.
BrokenAeroVT 4 months ago 2
Jesus is buried in Joseph of Arimathea's. Joseph was a trader in tin. The source was kept secret because tin was of great valuable. Joseph traded with Britain at tins mines in Cornwall.
There is a legend that Jesus came with Joseph of Arimathea to Cornwall to trade in tin. Blake writes in his hymn Jerusalem;' And did those feet in ancient times walk upon England's pastures green?' I like to believe this is true. That Jesus travelled to Britain and for these years was busy and care free.
MsMaynes 4 months ago
If you want to read about the Life of Jesus then the Urantia Book is a must read. The fourth part of the book contains the story of His entire life. Decide for yourself if it is a true revelation of His life or not.
TheLigthbringer 4 months ago
The Silk Road was a true adventure to a 12 yr. old during the time of Jesus. These travelers often conversed with Jesus about their ideology and a curious boy would probably dream of leaving a small town like Nazareth and explore God's created kingdom far far away from Rome
NippleNibbler101 4 months ago
He never existed, that's almost certain. But in the jewish culture back then men weren't regarded as fully adult or worthy of respect until they were 30, so any deity/god they would make up it would only be natural to make a 30 year old.: )
winterstellar 4 months ago
@winterstellar Sadly, there is no historian who denies Jesus to be historic. Please don't believe random sites on the net.
cisco19 4 months ago
@cisco19 Oh really? Have a look at the video on my page to see what sources they have, the ones who claim he did exist..
winterstellar 4 months ago
@winterstellar Just did. It's the same refuted - only on internet sites - arguments. Jesus' historicity is fact due to the subject of sociology science.
cisco19 4 months ago
@cisco19 "Sociology"? That's hilarious! Please explain!
winterstellar 4 months ago
@winterstellar Study how cults or small religion sects start, especially in ancient times of the middle east. Basic high school education.
cisco19 4 months ago
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winterstellar 4 months ago
@winterstellar This post is in an incoherent response to what i've said.. i also have no idea where you got that stuff about 30 year olds. As i said, study the laws with in sociology and social science if you slept through in highschool or if you haven't reached the level. You can make all these claims about writers, etc.. but until you actually give an argument in explanation to how sociology talks about Cults, you are just the same academic fallacious anti-theist.
cisco19 4 months ago
@cisco19 I messed it up, sorry. I happened to post it while editing it, so it looked a bit incoherent and weird. But anyway, as long as there is no evidence for his existence, and the only two sources are the fake entry Eusebius made in Flavius' chronicles, and Tacitus' talking about christians there is no reason to think he existed for real. I have a video on my page about this right now, about 35 contemporary sources that did not mention any "Jesus" and so on. : )
winterstellar 4 months ago
@winterstellar Why are those two sources that significant to you for his historicity? So what if the Eusebius and Tacitus is fake? Regardless, the tacitus is another back up for the Sociology science i gave. As i said before, study as to how cults originated during that time. Tacitus talks about christians, which during that time was a CULT. And Sociology and Social Science deems fact, that cults can only start from a central figure/teacher.
cisco19 4 months ago
@cisco19 Okay, wasn't that "Paul"? He was the cult leader, wasn't he? Or even it's inventor/creator?
winterstellar 4 months ago
@winterstellar Paul? How can it be Paul, when the book of Acts was written by Luke (who was a historian)? The book of acts is actually considered by scholars to be the most historical accurate of the NT, it parallels some of the stuff/events written in Josephus' book. If Paul created christianity, how come he shares stuff referenced in the 4 gospels? And what about the death records of the Apostles?
cisco19 4 months ago
@cisco19 He came before those "gospels", didn't he? I saw a documentary about him just a few days ago, I'll try to find it.
winterstellar 4 months ago
@winterstellar Ya Paul came before the gospels, yes. So where he did he get his sources from? Gradually, the books (gospels to the epistles) where not known by many during that time. So how does Paul know all this stuff, if the gospels where not made yet? Acts shows that the apostles where before Paul, and those Apostles have death records. So there is a whole in your argument about Paul being the first.
cisco19 4 months ago
@cisco19 What? Well, it's pretty obvious then that the authors of the "gospels" were inspired by Paul then, isn't it?
winterstellar 4 months ago
@winterstellar How did they get a hold of Paul's letters? Including Luke? come on.. you need some research.
cisco19 4 months ago
Please don't give me a documentary, you kids need to know that you should rely on google or random discovery channel stuff as support for an argument. It's shows that you are academically ignorant and just mouthing of entertainment information and taking it of value. There are countless of Pro-christian documentaries that i'm not bias enough to consider as legit information.. should i show that to you?
Read history books and works of historians..
cisco19 4 months ago
@cisco19 - Reading through a few of your comments, very interesting. Think I should point out that I'm in the "Jesus never existed" camp and the "Paul never existed" camp.
I've done some research on the canonical gospels and believe they where written during the reign of Vespasian (the father) and Titus (the good son). I think the Pauline epistles, GJohn and Revelations came later under Domitian (the holy spirit) - The "holy spirit" is more visible in these works.
Have you heard this before?
Franknarfable 4 months ago
@cisco19 But anyway, there were dozens of "chrestoses" or self-proclaimed "messiases" at the time.:)
winterstellar 4 months ago
@winterstellar "messiases"? You don't even know the proper word and forcing a debate on this subject?
Anyway, Who where these Messiahs, and how many writings and where are the track records of their contemporaries? If you are going to criticize the authenticity of the writings of Jesus due to quantity and time line, then why are you talking about other "chrestoses" as if they existed? Just going by your logic here.
cisco19 4 months ago
@cisco19 Oh yes, those guys ARE well documented by contemporaries(Unlike "Jesus") I can find them and name them easily. I'll get back to you on that:)
winterstellar 4 months ago
@winterstellar Ok, sure. And lets compare writings in quantity and time line.
cisco19 4 months ago
And you don't have to be a sociology major to understand that a story spread through word of mouth by ancient primitives could not stay anywhere near accurate for any lenght of time, and 40 years or whatever the christians claim, that would be impossible.
winterstellar 4 months ago
@winterstellar Sociology major? You learn that in highschool. Do i need to have a science major to describe condensation? No. You don't need a major to say that Cults need a central figure/teacher. It's common sense. Unless you think this word of mouth just came out of thin air.
Even Atheist Historian Michael Grant says: The Jesus myth is academically annihilated. The creeds of Christianity are recorded around the late 30 AD's, so who cares about the writing?
cisco19 4 months ago
Oh, the fact that you called the people of 1st century Palestine "primitives" shows allot of how ignorant you are. This "jesus never existed" is a 10 year refuted argument, you're late. You say writings came 40 years after, which isn't wrong.. because if you read history books and read Will Durant's books, legends and myths during that time take more than 2 generations to evolve. Scholars have stated that any source dating with in 150 years from the person is a historical reference.
cisco19 4 months ago
See you tube's funny
God's 2 "FOOT" 10 Commandments (completed......)
and John 3:16
Godscards 4 months ago
he was a jewish blue collar worker?
berguss22 4 months ago
When did NATIONAL GEOGRAPHIC turn into science fiction?
oldclown 4 months ago
He's handsome though, lucky Magdalene if this is true!
emhiljohn1 5 months ago
There are two Bethlehem's. One in the North and one in the South. Bible tells you he was called out of Egypt. Alexandria had the greatest place of study in the world. There were also healing temples and Buddhists monks. Hence why the parallel of his teachings with Buddha are remarkable. Martin Palmer wrote a book on the sayings of them both and their alignment.
academysounds 5 months ago
From the ashes a fire shall be woken; A light from the shadows shall spring; Renewed shall be blade that was broken; The crownless again shall be king.
The fellowship of the ring, 1993 paperback edition, page 324.
See, I can quote scripture too.
daSchoof 5 months ago
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daSchoof 5 months ago
as if Mathew, Mark, Luke and John are evidence of anything.
Snarkonymous 5 months ago
why is it a mystery? why does the question even rate?
we were not told in the Bible in any detail, so we do not need to know.
they want additional detail as they think that what is given is not sufficient. But if Christ is God it IS sufficient. But if he were not then it is totally trivial
besides it is most likely he was simply a carpenter's son who lived in total obscurity until his time came
Strefanasha 5 months ago
@Strefanasha To be honest, the reason why God made himself a mystery is because trying to understand him would be like an ant trying to read the declaration of independence! So to summarize and simplify things, he says he is the Son of God and Man (because of the union between the holy spirit and Mary) The Holy trinity itself is a mystery as well. God the Father, God the Son, and God the Holy Spirit. 3 divine beings in one. How are they related or similar with each other? I guess that's mystery
bigjoe777 5 months ago
John 14:15 If you love me, you will keep my commandments. 16 And I will ask the Father, and he will give you another Helper(Holy Spirit), to be with you forever, 17 even the Spirit of truth, whom the world cannot receive, because it neither sees him nor knows him. You know him, for he dwells with you and will be in you.
doublej706 5 months ago
@bigjoe777 Mystery or bullshit? I'll take the side of the latter.
daSchoof 5 months ago
John15:21 But all these things they will do to you on account of my name, because they do not know him who sent me. 22 If I had not come and spoken to them, they would not have been guilty of sin, but now they have no excuse for their sin. 23 Whoever hates me hates my Father also.
doublej706 5 months ago
Distraction!
Downfacingdog 5 months ago
What blasphemy! Jesus was a barber by trade. He was one of the best barbers in the land.
papalolita 5 months ago
@papalolita Did he let blood or just cut hair?
IExposeMormonism 5 months ago
watch?v=wuk_x-JyFJ8 "Logical Evidences for Islam"
shncsr 5 months ago
Whatever he did i'm sure it was kickass cause Jesus is the original Chuck Norris ;-)
OurCrazyLife2005 5 months ago
more lies ! as if they would tell us the truth, we have been lied to about most of the history
spellgrounds 5 months ago 9
@spellgrounds
lies told from who?
TheInnerBeautyOut 3 months ago
Jesus was in North America???
MrAwake2me 5 months ago
@MrAwake2me he was fighting the indians.
TheSimon67 5 months ago
Hi...People today don't know the working of GOD in social or political level...they thing that some mystical man or woman...is GOD & when they come then only every thing would be right again....GOD or Allah ....directly work through the social system previously handled by the Temples..spread all parts of the world...GOD means...Governess over death...& Allah means...The light day Night burns in the temple...for people's benefits...That place called Allah...but today people are not attached with
RCSHREEYANYAN 6 months ago
It is fascinating to me how many are so interested in the "lost years" of Christ when they are not even interested in the gospels. The info for the lost years come from heretical and apocryphal writings from the 2nd and 3rd centuries and are highly unreliable, compared to the gospels that were written the the 1st century. You wanna know the truth? Read the Bible from cover to cover and ask God to show you if it is real....
sp30ful 6 months ago
@sp30ful and how do you know that the gospels are reliable?
supermanjersey 5 months ago
@sp30ful..How could you deem writings from the 2nd or 3rd cent. heretical when the gospels themselves were written late 1st century into early 2nd century; at earliest, decades removed from Christ. At best 2 of the four writers actually knew Jesus and even that is questionable.
jloyer14 5 months ago
I PLAYED ON THE SAME LITTLE LEAGUE TEAM WITH JESUS. MAN WHAT AN ARM.
siannarino 6 months ago 10
@siannarino That wouldn't be fair because he could hit a home run every time LOL! :)
MrMark509 4 months ago
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When Christ asks you at judgment, "Who do you say I am?" Make sure you give the pre-Novus Ordo Council answer, "God." If you give God the common Masonic answer out of the Gnostic bible, "you are the son of a burning bush fire (the lord)", you will quickly learn what this world was about and you will have an eternity to pay for it. As the Traditional Catholic Church breathes its last breath, the New Order replaces it. Will you have the knowledge to stand?
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fatimamovement 6 months ago
I f you want to know more of Jesus's life and when He born, read the URANTIA BOOK. You can find it on line and it is free to down load.
ziggystardust220 6 months ago
With deep earnestness the mother of Jesus watched the unfolding of His powers, and beheld the impress of perfection upon His character. With delight she sought to encourage that bright, receptive mind. Through the Holy Spirit she received wisdom to co-operate with the heavenly agencies in the development of this child, who could claim only God as His Father.
minnieothers 6 months ago
John E. Remsberg - THE CHRIST
READ THIS AND JUDGE FOR YOURSELVES
ram321z 6 months ago
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Basque villages were devastated by bombs,Franco's bombers pursued the ships,but they arrived safely.Basque children who were orphaned were adopted by the British people.God gathers the various remnants of His chosen race in His own way and in His own good time.We leave our Basque brethren in the Pyrenees til the day when "Their seed shall be known among the Gentiles, and their offspring among the peoples; all who see them shall acknowledge them, that they are the seed the Lord has blessed."
TheBasqueLand 6 months ago
I think Jesus prob stayed close to Nazerath and his family.Seems from the scriptures that people knew him and his family. If he went anywhere, I doubt it was for more than 5 to 10 years before he started preaching. I think Joseph died shortly before the water to wine miricle.It wasnt long after that he was in the synagoge, the question arose about him being the son of the carpenter so Joseph was remembered then.They also say he never learned letters so the locals had track knowledge of Jesus.
KesslersCross 6 months ago
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steveinphx 6 months ago
big lai just don't do it in this century. i don't accept ur idea or way of presenting
onein1 6 months ago
Jews believe in the Messiah, they just dont believe it was Jesus, they are still waiting for the Messiah, when he comes to them do you think he will need to be educated by anyone at some point? No Jesus didnt learn to read in his missing years, nor did he learn from yoga masters or Hindu mystics or any other such thing, Jesus probably was sailing on Joseph of Arimathea's( Mary's rich uncle and guardian) ships as a merchant marine. JofA sailed the Mediterranean to Rome, Spain, France, England.
fudgedogbannana 6 months ago
Man, some of you morons don't have the brain of an Amoeba. I wonder how you even find the floor when you get out of bed in the morning.
TheStratman2011 6 months ago
Jesus comes back and says "Dad, remember that fishing club I started?"
silversurfer8016 6 months ago
The pope dies and goes to heaven. He stood before St Peter, and St Peter says "Who are you?" The pope replies"I am the pope, the leader of the Catholic church." I'm sorry I don't know who you are" St Peter states, "Let me go ask God" St Peter goes to God and asks "God tere is a guy out here that says he is the leader of the Catholic church." Jesus says" I will go and find out what is going on."
silversurfer8016 6 months ago
Jesus was a "Palestinian Jew"?? Was there even a Palestine state in 20BC? roh kay
MrLesWhite 6 months ago
@MrLesWhite No, the area was called Judea, it was the Roman Emperor Hadrian who called it the land of the Philistines( Palestine) to stick it to the Jews who were a thorn in his side.
fudgedogbannana 6 months ago
you think somebody rise up from the dead and then talk to his friends, what's the purpose of this?some people wants you to believe on something that is not believable up to this time, let us analyze the story and think realistically..less talk you research more, and then report to me.
alakdanism 6 months ago
chickenshitt-think in a broader perspective ok?that's why you named yourself a chiken shit, coz you are indeed a chicken shit, haters are different from logical mind, before you believe in something you think deep, don't you know that you probably wasted your life believing what you believe?hahahaha try to see the big picture, and research more child..you might stumble on something real
alakdanism 6 months ago
sp30ful, jesus is a myth in a sense that story in favor of him were fabricated, yes maybe he was real then but as a person and not a son of a fucking virgin? grow up open your eyes and study more...a virgin?delivers a son?think about it, it's not even logical...and then you say that's a miracle..well miracle me, be rational enough
alakdanism 6 months ago
jesus is a myth you asshole
alakdanism 6 months ago
@alakdanism Your lack of vocabulary to show your frustration shows your immaturity as an individual. What evidence to you have to back up your assertions using your limited vocabulary?
sp30ful 6 months ago
@sp30ful clearly alakdanism doesn't know what a myth is. not that s/he knows anything else.
chickenshitt 6 months ago
What are all these WHITE people doing in this movie, where is this supposed to be England?
EmpireoftheCitycom 6 months ago
@TheDarvus : Calm down... Yes, it's really clear to me, you have nothing to support what you believe. It's always the same. Do I am surprised? NO. But you are not obliged to feel threatened by this...
liduq 6 months ago
where was JC all those years??
..getting his freak on with mary magdelane no doubt, and nothing wrong with that either. catholic church nazis have done nothing but distort jesus real message as far as i can see
itoldyousoisaid 6 months ago
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I AM JESUS, I AM THE 666 IN REVELATION...
THE MARKS / NUMBERS FORMING UPON MY FACE WILL SOON BE TOTALLY UNDENIABLE
ulived1969 6 months ago
not body knows nothing about those time but is because this was and still is the planet of the fallen angel he use 2 have the key of life and dead (this is like a monkey with a knife) so for him 2 deceive evil he live a poor in a poor neighborhood for he was the creator he's the most intelligent been in the whole universe when he grow he show who he was in a very few years clean mother earth with his blood die so the seed that was within him which is the holy spirit that u and me have.
Gh0stArts 6 months ago
@TheDarvus ''I am talking about before Constantine. You can argue that Constantine changed this or that but Christianity and Jesus where Roman creations anyway. The biblical patriarchs are all fictional characters and always have been.''
I quote you just up here, You talk about ''The biblical patriarchs''? The Bible is the same as the Torah. New Testament is another thing.
Then if you said the biblical patriarchs are all fiction, Then its have to be the same for the Torah. It's not different!
liduq 6 months ago
@TheDarvus : Do you have evidence of that, I mean documents that prove what you say. Because if it's true, it would mean that the Torah (talking about the Hebrew version) is completely invented, from A to Z. The Jews who meticulously transcribed (in these times) the Torah, by counting each letter, each word, each paragraph etc, for example (such letter counted 30000 times or so paragraphs beginning with this letter counted 4000 times etc)
The poor, they would have done all this for nothing?
liduq 6 months ago
I believe he spent a lot of his spare time playing the drums. If Jesus was really into Love, I'd think he would want to be able to talk to others about what Love means.
Since our hearts set the rhythms of life, the drums are the key to Love. Drums and Love are synonymous which means that Jesus would have known a great deal about drums.
Peace.
crazy8sdrums 6 months ago
@TheDarvus : But it's true to say that Catholicism has bring a lot in education and knowledge. Although and sadly, they lost the true message of Jesus and His meaning in the name of power.
liduq 6 months ago
@liduq "they lost the true message of Jesus and His meaning in the name of power."
Mt 16.18-19 ; Lk 10.16 ; Jn 20.23 ; 21.17
ONLY the Apostles, and Peter in particular, were given Power on Earth. The Catholic Church is built on Apostollic Succession.
To say that Catholicism lost the True Message of Jesus is a heresy, since it's the ONLY True Holy Apostollic Church there is, the One that was founded by JC Himself, to which he promised to Holy Spirit to guide and protect it, with infaillibility
Gazdo01 6 months ago
@Gazdo01 : ''To say that Catholicism lost the True Message of Jesus is a heresy,''
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Do you know what is the meaning of the cross that pope J.P. II and the current one show in front of everyone? It's a cross made by a satanist goup, about 200 years ago, in order to humiliate Jesus. And J.P. II has decided to use it. He knew perfectly well what this cross represents. Heretic you say? Dont tell me it's hearsay, search.
Yes, Catholicism lost the Word of God, and this, very long time ago.
liduq 6 months ago
@liduq Hahahahahahaha! Are you trying to be funny? Your opinion is dangerous. I don't know what kind of sect manipulated your brain, but it's scary to see how much stupidity can be put in a tiny mind like yours.
Sure, continue on believing your bullshit anti-catholic propaganda. The Church doesn't suffer a lot by losing such a poor mind as yours. I'll stick with St Augustin, St Thomas Aquinas, and the rest of the Church Fathers and Doctors, who gave their lives in understanding Scriptures.
Gazdo01 6 months ago
@Gazdo01 To say that Catholicism lost the True Message of Jesus is a heresy,
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I know that most of catholic dont read their Bible, or worse, they dont even have one. But if you have one, read the Book of revelation, specifically 17:1-6, you will recognize who is the prostitute. Who has killed Christians only because they wanted to read the Word of God, the Bible.
liduq 6 months ago
@liduq Attacking Catholicism on the basis of "so called" catholics is a fallacy.
And that's funny... using a book that The Catholic Church declared canonical (forgetting by the way that it's canonicity is BASED on the authority of the Church) and trying to use it against the Mother Church.
It's pathetic. You people don't even realize the implications of your heresies.
Gazdo01 6 months ago
@liduq The only ones that can be rightfully called prostitutes are the ones attacking their Mother the Church. Jesus promised Unity as a Sign of His Church... What do we see? 30 000+ so called "christian" sects in the world since the first heretics decided to leave the Church. 30 000+ sects that dispute themselves about major doctrinal points.
So sad to see that people don't realize the NECESSITY of a living voice to be sure not to err.
/watch?v=RWYwBDqFsuE
Gazdo01 6 months ago
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@Gazdo01 To say that Catholicism lost the True Message of Jesus is a heresy
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The majority of the clergy dont even believe in Christ The Messiah! The popes consider themselves equal to God on earth, and priests as Jesus. That is heresy! They even consider themselves as infallible! What, they are not sinners! If this is not heresy...
liduq 6 months ago
@liduq That's plain bullshit. There's no point in arguying with a dellusioned fanatic.
Concerning papal infaillibility, you just proved to me (and everybody else) that you don't understand shit about Catholicism, it's history and dogma.
Gazdo01 6 months ago
@Gazdo01 To say that Catholicism lost the True Message of Jesus is a heresy,
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Every statues at Vatican are gods from Babylone. They just gave them names of Saints. However, God has been very clear on pictures and statues, and the fact to bow and worship them. And that's not an excuse to say that you dont worship them as god. Catholics bow in front of them and pray them. Where this is come from? It's idolatry. Is Jesus taught us to pray to Mary, Saints and Angles?
liduq 6 months ago
@liduq Lol this is getting more stupid then I taught. You've been influenced by false anti-catholic propaganda, and you really believe that with 500 caracters messages, you'll be able to destroy 2000 years of exquisite Catholic theology. Pretty naive I must say!
Your questions are so elementary (they've all being resolved between 1200 and 1600 years ago) that I won't even bother answer.
The intelligent person will seak the OFFICIAL explinations in the Catholic Cathechism and in Summa Theologiae.
Gazdo01 6 months ago
@Gazdo01 To say that Catholicism lost the True Message of Jesus is a heresy,
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Before saying to someone is a heretic (favorite word of the Vatican) you should learn about the history of the papacy, the Black pope (Jesuits, real bloody killer, worse than mohammad), and about satanism that thrives in the Vatican like microbes in the humidity. If the apostles could move and knew what the Vatican is in reality, they would turn in their graves.
liduq 6 months ago
@liduq The role of the Church is to definite and denounce heresies, in order to protect its members from error.
About the popes... the dogma doesn't say that popes are perfect or sinless. They too can and will pay for actions commited, and can be sentence to Hell.
As for all your "satanic" bullshit, I'll leave it as it is... bullshit!
If that's what drove you away from the One True Holy Apostollic Catholic Church, then you don't deserve to be called Catholic in the first place.
Gazdo01 6 months ago
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@Gazdo01 To say that Catholicism lost the True Message of Jesus is a heresy,
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Jesus teach us how to enter the Heaven too. (Confess your sins, Repent, be baptized and then, be born again) Is that what catholics do? Did I confess at 3 days old? Did I repent at 3 days old? Did Jesus teach us to confess to a priest?
liduq 6 months ago
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@Gazdo01 To say that Catholicism lost the True Message of Jesus is a heresy,
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Dont tell me I am a heretic because I do what God and Jesus teaches us to do, (Dont believe in men, but look and search for the truth.) Something that most Catholics dont never even bother to do. Because, if Catholics did what God and Jesus teaches us, there would be no more Catholics.
liduq 6 months ago