Very little seems to be said about the fact that Leopold thought of his son as a ticket to wealth and used him as such which, over time, Mozart himself realized. Hence Mozart's eventual separation from his father.
@BeBopDeluxe85 Sorry, but your statement is not true, especially to the degree that Leopold used his son. Anyone thinking that something historical concerns "common sense" doesn't understand the research needed to confirm one's beliefs about the past. If it was up to Leopold, Mozart wouldn't have married, lived far from his father, and more, all in order to be part of any wealth he could have made for Leopold.
@lazurm Actually it is true, plus who are you to know the will and mind of Wolfgang or Leopold.... The only information we have is historical accounts from third parties. Also, life today is much different than it was over 200 years ago... people had different beliefs and customs. So don't presume to know everything , when you really don't know anything.
@BeBopDeluxe85 That too isn't true.We have most of Mozart's letters,written in his own hand! Therein you'll find proof for my statements.Where do you see in any of my statements that I "presume to know everything"? I think when discussion gets personal and baseless it's,for me,an invitation to leave.Please stick to the issue.What I have written can be confirmed in Mozart's letters to his many friends and relatives.The overwhelming material proves my point.If references are needed,ask for them.
@BeBopDeluxe85 As for the differences in beliefs and customs in Europe 200 years ago, I agree, quite variant from today but the expectations of control that Leopold had over his son's life was far being the norm, even for society then and especially for a man of means and talent such as Mozart. I challenge you to give another example, at that time period, where a parent had such high demands on their famous and talented offspring. I don't think there's even one other example.
@blueguitarblue In those days, being a Freemason was virtually compulsory...if one was to rub shoulders with those with influence. Besides, it, like all he came in contact with, provided inspiration.
Another composer biography where the musical development is treated as incidental to the elements of "real" interest, the social and romantic drama. EVERY person in existence has family and romance drama, so why dont we make THOSE incidental here and focus on what makes this life so special? Instead we get 20 minutes on juvenile heartache and then, "oh by the way he wrote this piece around that time". Right, which happens to be some of the greatest music ever written, but who would know?
Very little seems to be said about the fact that Leopold thought of his son as a ticket to wealth and used him as such which, over time, Mozart himself realized. Hence Mozart's eventual separation from his father.
lazurm 6 months ago
@lazurm Nothing else is said about it because it is blatantly obvious, for people have any common sense whatsoever.
BeBopDeluxe85 4 months ago
@BeBopDeluxe85 Sorry, but your statement is not true, especially to the degree that Leopold used his son. Anyone thinking that something historical concerns "common sense" doesn't understand the research needed to confirm one's beliefs about the past. If it was up to Leopold, Mozart wouldn't have married, lived far from his father, and more, all in order to be part of any wealth he could have made for Leopold.
lazurm 3 months ago
@lazurm Actually it is true, plus who are you to know the will and mind of Wolfgang or Leopold.... The only information we have is historical accounts from third parties. Also, life today is much different than it was over 200 years ago... people had different beliefs and customs. So don't presume to know everything , when you really don't know anything.
BeBopDeluxe85 3 months ago
@BeBopDeluxe85 That too isn't true.We have most of Mozart's letters,written in his own hand! Therein you'll find proof for my statements.Where do you see in any of my statements that I "presume to know everything"? I think when discussion gets personal and baseless it's,for me,an invitation to leave.Please stick to the issue.What I have written can be confirmed in Mozart's letters to his many friends and relatives.The overwhelming material proves my point.If references are needed,ask for them.
lazurm 2 months ago
@BeBopDeluxe85 As for the differences in beliefs and customs in Europe 200 years ago, I agree, quite variant from today but the expectations of control that Leopold had over his son's life was far being the norm, even for society then and especially for a man of means and talent such as Mozart. I challenge you to give another example, at that time period, where a parent had such high demands on their famous and talented offspring. I don't think there's even one other example.
lazurm 2 months ago
thank you for the documentary, but man this documentarian is corny. he just can't resist the temptation to interject himself into the film
oitotheworld23 9 months ago
5:10 does anyone know what song is playing?
tank3890 10 months ago
@tank3890
2nd movement of Piano Concerto 23
oppie47 9 months ago in playlist Genius of Mozart BBC
@blueguitarblue So was I.
19GirlBad 10 months ago
I was disappointed to learn that Mozart was a Freemason.
blueguitarblue 11 months ago
@blueguitarblue In those days, being a Freemason was virtually compulsory...if one was to rub shoulders with those with influence. Besides, it, like all he came in contact with, provided inspiration.
lazurm 6 months ago
Another composer biography where the musical development is treated as incidental to the elements of "real" interest, the social and romantic drama. EVERY person in existence has family and romance drama, so why dont we make THOSE incidental here and focus on what makes this life so special? Instead we get 20 minutes on juvenile heartache and then, "oh by the way he wrote this piece around that time". Right, which happens to be some of the greatest music ever written, but who would know?
befuturenow 1 year ago
beautiful
AZazaxe 2 years ago 2