AIFD's Dr. Zuhdi Jasser debates Jihad Watch's Robert Spencer

[daftphoenix1]

There is always a solution to every problem in the world. The problem with Spencer in the debate is that he offered no solutions and actually encouraged radicalization by attempting to belittle a grassroots, moderate movement.

[thesanctfy]

zuhdi jasser plan is not bad but i dont think zuhdi jasser's plan of reforming and giving "critical thinking" to muslim americans, much less 1 billion muslims around the world would be a success. MAYBE in the FAR future. but for now, until they are not reformed, the free world should pursue the war on jihad and sharia creeping in the u.s. and the world.

[Crusaderwatch911]

Why should Westerners ALLOW muslim ISSUES to be part of the process of assimilation into our societies. Issues that do not enhance Western Thought or Values (jet there is a constant FOCUS on F*ng Islam)

Muslims SIMPLY bring too much baggage / garbage with them

The only way to produce "moderate Islam" in countries like Iran (etc) is to wholly separate Islamic societies from the West (STOP IMMIGRATION) & allow a "tsunami of violence" to overtake the people living under those "Islamic" regime/s

[fxnooodle]

Please remember one thing when ever you hear a "moderate Muslim" preaches tolerance and peace: under Shariah law, a Muslim is encouraged and forgiven if he lied to protect or advance Islam.

[sirjambo]

Jasser like all apologists for islam blames EVERYTHING under the sun except the OBVIOUS answer, islam and the perfect muslim for all times their beloved pedo profit!

Muslims just cannot look at islam HONESTLY, or they lie religiously!

[mikentosh]

Jasser is full of shit....a wolf in sheep's clothing....

This is the first time I've seen Robert Spencer...Smart dude. Jasser was out of his league...

[YouCruising]

I do wish that this debate could've gotten down to the brass tacks instead of concentrating on 20th Century islam reform:

1. Who was your prophet?

2. Was it okay to marry aisha at 6 years old, have sex with her at 9, then say it's acceptable in the koran?

3. What about not accepting Jews & Christians as friends, and killing or converting them wherever you find them?

4. What about the beheading of men, and children at the Genocide of Banu Qurayza, which laid seed to genocides like Darfur? etc,

[YouCruising]

@20:18 Jasser asks ..."why are we discarding scholars like Bernard Lewis... I'd love to hear Robert's take on him." Then @21:05 it's supposed to be Spencers time for rebuttal, but the moderator shows his biased and turns back to Jassed. Spencer was frustrated because this debate was a secularist biased event. However, he still made the points during his time, kept his composure, and his arguments were FAR superior. Jasser is the ultimate pawn for islam... practicing taqiyya, without knowing it.

[jrl503]

Robert Spencer cleans his clock. I've seen Zuhdi on GB and in testimony before the King hearings. He comes across well but I've never seen him challenged. You could tell he was losing composure at Islam and Mohammed being exposed. Taqqiya!!!

[goldchrist1]

only an idiot thinks dr jasser talking reasonable....

[goldchrist1]

Jasser is an al-takqqyja guy...but he is doing that in very light way...(pure stealth jihad)

[slayyyyn]

@goldchrist1 no he exposes the taqqiya ppl who are lying to advance islam hes nt one of them.

[BabyBang17datruth]

@slayyyyn Moron. Taqqiya doesn't mean lying to advance Islam. Islam is advanced through knowledge, not lies. And to explain to you what taqqiya is, it is to deceive your oppressor. Basically if someone is trying to kill you, do what ever it takes to stay alive. And this point isn't taught in main stream Islam. But you and others like you just like to cherry-pick one verse and interpret it so you can shed a negative perception on one religion.

[YouCruising]

@BabyBang17datruth Seems like you have your facts mixed up. But, why would one defend, and/or claim knowledge of taqiyya unless he/she uses it themselves, hmmm?

Correct definition: There are two forms of lying to non-believers that are permitted under certain circumstances, taqiyya and kitman. These circumstances are typically those that advance the cause Islam - in some cases by gaining the trust of non-believers in order to draw out their vulnerability and defeat them.

[BabyBang17datruth]

@YouCruising Yeah, you're a typical nut going after people that don't believe the same things you believe in. Tell me something, in your version of taqaiyya, aren't you trying to spread the advancement of your anti-Islamic rhetoric with baseless facts? Think about it. Way to go with the hypocrisy buddy. 

[YouCruising]

@BabyBang17datruth Nice! And all I see you doing is casting aspersions on every person that disagrees with your way of thinking. Facts are facts! If you cant handle what noteworthy experts in the area give as definition, that's on u. Ur a bitter little kid who SHOUTS from the top of the rooftops to try and get his/her point across. So, if you're not taqiyya (which I wouldn't be so quick to dismiss), than you're a little anarchist hippie. Either way, you're a detriment to society. THINK ABOUT IT!

[BabyBang17datruth]

@YouCruising Ha! My facts come from experience and from reading books. Information you inherit are irrational and come from so called experts that made it their mission to spread hate. And folks like you dismiss the facts and only count on the bias that favors your beliefs. You'll most likely continue to accuse me of lying, but hey that's your only valid false accusation and it's absolutely pathetic. Society has proven to dismiss anti-somatic rhetoric and soon yours will go down as well.

[YouCruising]

@BabyBang17daLIES AHAHA! So do mine. However, you're the one who is quite dismissive.

Btw Eggbert, you're attempting to put on the big boy britches and they're simply a little too big for you. "Anti-somatic" makes absolutely no sense in the context of the sentence you just blabbered. But whatever, as long as you make sense in your freakshow world then you've proved your point (to yourself). You're ridiculous, but you do have me chuckling at your condescending ineptitude. "Encore, Encore!"

[BabyBang17datruth]

@YouCruising Ah! I guess my finger was off, kind of like your narrow-minded intellects. And yes, as long as you continue to attack me with your childish tactics, it's actually me who gets the last laugh. Keep it up buddy!

[YouCruising]

@BabyBang17daLIES You're off alright. Is it really me who's keeping you down? You certainly LOVE the victim role. It seems to suit you quite well ;)

Also, I would have no idea what you could have been referring to in the last exchange Mr/Mrs "Finger-off." But, whatever, you've already been exposed for the wannabe elitist you are. Maybe, you should take a nap, then come back when you're firing on all cylinders? That way I won't look like I'm taking advantage of you as much. Good night for now.

[BabyBang17datruth]

@YouCruising There's no one playing the victim role. But surely you've been successful by making yourself look a fool. And for that, I know you're not putting yourself in an elite category. But I give you credit for making a valued effort in trying to debate through your ignorance.

[YouCruising]

@BabyBang17datruth AHAHA!! You continue to amuse me with your "finger slippage" victim role you play. Talk about al taqiyya. Wow!! You're simply playing aloof I take it? Just so you know, mohammed. It's "valiant effort." If you want to project yourself as an American, u need to do more than simply put two American Football videos, over Atlanta Falcons wallpaper on your page. Your accent reveals your TRUE identity.

Nonetheless, whooping you mentally is tiresome. I need sleep. Maybe, tomorrow.

[BabyBang17datruth]

@YouCruising Blah! Keep playing games with yourself. You keep changing your views on taqiyya just making yourself sound more and more retarded. And like I'm projecting myself as an American my loving a sports team. I can be living on Mars and still root for the Falcons. But I'm on planet reality, but you continue to isolate yourself by pointing fingers. Go and get some sleep and try think of new creative ways to make yourself sound like a moron.

[terajasoos]

@goldchrist1

oh really, how amazing!!!

[MrILoveYeshua]

furthermore, jasser fully denies the existance of a violent jihad in islam,though it is historically proven my multiple scriptures, its not a new phenomenon.The risk of keeping islam instead of abolishing it, incorporates the core of violent jihad.That means there will always be a group of people who will take up that ideology to start a war again.Therefore, its has to be stated in the law and constitution that islam is a threat to all of us and needs to be outlawed, as kommunism or naziism.

[MrILoveYeshua]

the first statement of jasser has been learnt by heart by him to promote islam. Its a standard statement of socalled peaceful muslims.

When it comes to discussion, jasser fails to refute the claims agaisnt islam.Instead he points out one example where he refers to the revolutionary ideas of muslim teenagers who challenged their parents.Here he forgets that this is the opposite what islam teaches.In islam nothing can be questioned critically but has to be followed.Any discussion is suppressed.

[timjohan]

Love robert spencer...he cuts through all the bulshit