The Book of Mormon: Jesus Christ in Americas

[tempist12]

This is interesting. I have read and saw that some tribes of Native Americans have passed down almost identical stories that were in the bible. So even though I'm christian, I am open to the fact that possibly Jesus came over to America or maybe it was just one of the Knight's Templar that preached the bible to the tribes. No hate here were all gods children.

[Tarik360]

interesting wiews of Jesus (peace be upon him) you guys got.

[lds9999]

Do you have any questions I can help answer?

[Tarik360]

no thanks, don't have any :P

[lds9999]

Sounds good, just let me know. We'd love to have you worship with us anytime. You can find the closest meetinghouse near you at maps*lds*org.

[LDSapologist71]

Ephesians 4:5

One Lord, One Faith, One baptism

[pangeanet]

Biblical Proof that Jesus Christ visited the Americas

John 10:16

"And other sheep I have, which are not of this fold: them also I must bring, and they shall hear my voice; and there shall be one fold, and one shepherd."

[secretbandmember2]

I love how you mormons try to make up your own terms thinking that the world will see you idiots as HOLY,, but we DON'T see you mormons as holy, by making up the USA's name of the America's INSTEAD OF AMERICA IS JUST DOWN RIGHT STUPID

[lds9999]

Our own terms? You think "Americas" is our term? Haha.

Short lesson.

1. North America

2. Central America

3. South America

See how there's more than one "America" there. Refer to them together and in the English language, you make them plural by adding an "S" to the end.

Hence, Americas.

Those last four words of your comment are classic, but may be applied to the wrong group/person.

[Bidimus1]

What if those sheep and been in China ? or Japan ?

Of course it is neither he was speaking of those he had not yet preached to, the gentiles.

[bobbygnosis]

That's not proof. That's interpretation.

Good try, though.

Peace.

[omiolo]

At the end of the temple to temple ride from the Denver Colorado Temple to Salt Lake. From left: Mark England, Maya England, Charlotte Hansen, Jody England Hansen, Sam (the dog), Tyler Perdue, Mark Bolton, Mike Hansen, Mike Perdue; back row, Michele Perdue, Rebecca England Kimball, Jordan Kimball, Charlotte England, Jane England; front row: Tana Perdue, Andrew Wooly Kimball, Katie Rose Kimball. Provided by Mike Hansen

[omiolo]

"It gives you an appreciation for what they did," Bolton said. "This is easy on a bike, but think about it pushing a handcart, walking and malnourished in the winter."

[secretbandmember2]

You mormons make so many of us sick out there, blasphemizing Jesus Christ and then mis pronouncing AMERICA, mormons say AMERICASSSSSS just to sound holy? wtf

[lds9999]

Have you ever heard of North America and South America?

Americas.

Check Wikipedia for "Americas".

[secretbandmember2]

You people dont know what you're talking about all mormons know is blasphemy

[lds9999]

That was an incredibly logical response. Typical when a critic is proven wrong.

[SmithGurl1208]

Too true. I agree with you, lds9999. I have had my share of people telling me, point blank, that I'm evil, going to hell, am in a cult....etc. And all I can do is just smile ironically, and go, "so...I'm going to hell for believing in Christ, while you're going to heaven for believing the same?" O.o We don't change who Christ is with the BOM, we simply show more about what He did...nothing more, nothing less. Thanks for being so reasonable with people who like to judge us...;)

[secretbandmember2]

usually satans children like to make us Gods children think we're proven wrong but no one calls IT THE AMERICAS AND JESUS NEVER WENT TO AMERICA.. GOT IT

[lds9999]

You may not call it the Americas. But a lot of people do, including scholars.

But then again, maybe those scholars and everybody else are just "satans children" since it proves you wrong. Haha.

[mmsmile2008]

Luke 9: 49-50 "Do not stop him," Jesus said, "for whoever is not against you is for you." . Try actually reading up on Mormons and mesoamerica. The video may be a bit sappy, but there is a "bearded white God" recorded by their records as Quetzalcoatl. That a Jewish family immigrated to mesoamerica and recorded their events. Education is a wonderful thing, do get some.

[omiolo]

I have read many of your posts. They border on HATEFUL and are laden with devilish LIES.

Please STOP!

[rexfordbeardsley]

lds9999 Im sorry I havent been on more to defend just what you have been doing....almost all alone. I wish others would stand aside you. I will try and be as valiant in the cause of defending the truth as you have been. The hate of the adversary is never going to be quelled, but we can arise to meet it with truth with our savior.

[lds9999]

No need to apologize. I definitely appreciate when other LDS members comment, but am not concerned with the critical comments of others'. Most of the time, they are not based on much logic or argument, and any reasonable person can see that.

[CTHULUgreatoldone]

wow what really amazes me is taht lds peopel say WE are closed minded if we dont read teh boook of MORMON ..yet they refuse to accept an OTHER document of history because it does not match up with the stories and events in accordance with the geographical areas detailed in the BOM.

[lds9999]

We do not refuse to accept other documents of history.

You show your true character as you continue to make up lie after lie.

[MissBecky65]

alright, i understand why people dont beleive in the mormon religion...

so i ask, do you beleive in what the jewish say about jesus not being the messiah ?

how about hinduism? what about buddah ? what about all other idol worshiping religions ? do you give credence to them??

why is mormanism so different?? ill tell you, we dont worship a cross or statue, we beleive in the holy spirit, we dont need a visual to beleive, thats why you all are so afraid. to beleive is to see. remeber that.

[godstruthislove]

I find it utterly amazing that Mormon's use Mayan temples in LDS Art,

But if one was to study the Mayan People, it becomes clear,.... Mayans were not Jews. They did not live the law of Moses. Those temples have nothing to do with Mormonism or Christianity of Judaism.

The Mormon Lie continues.............

[solarflare311]

says the one with the name"godstruthislove" sorry your name is quite deceptive,I don't pitty so-called "christians" like you

[creaturebotman]

I would believe maybe 10% of this if Jesus wasn't illustrated so "Anglo Saxon" looking. That just revels the intent behind the hold idea.... looking at these illustrations Jesus was a pretty white man with pretty white women adoring him with manly strait men adoring him to and he had brown or red hair (not black like the lower races huh?) and he wore ultra Bright linen cloth that even while he walk through the woods , dirt and mud. His clothes stayed white as his skin. Give me a break!

[Rayzqan]

It's a nice song.

[redscorpioknight]

he was defined as the white god in america..the aztecs called quetzalcoatl or feather serpent...the same god that abolish the human sacrifices, the love for your neighbor, the eternity..the same emanuel in israel was jesus here as quetzalcoatl..why u think the conquer of america was so easy and they didn`t fight soo much cuz the were waiting for the white god..

[00UrinalCake00]

What was easy about the conquering of the americas? Thousands of spaniards died in the campaign against the mesoamericans not tho mention twice the the number of native allies that died fighting alongside the spanish conquistadors. If it wasnt for the smallpox the spanish where carrying the whole conquest could have been alot diffrent.

[Rayzqan]

The Book Of Mormon is true! Jesus came to all his sheep at one time or another.

The bible is true, but it is not the only book of scripture.

I testify of that in the name of Jesus Christ. Amen.

[CTHULUgreatoldone]

oh then why doe the boook of mormon reference civilizations and cultures that have no historical evidence or are non existant.?actually teh bible PREdates the BOm by almost 2000 years and theres i NOTHINg in it foreshadowing the BOM or any evenst described in it.

[lds9999]

First, why would it be necessary for the Bible to talk about the Book of Mormon? Even John wrote, "And there are also many other things which Jesus did, the which, if they should be written every one, I suppose that even the world itself could not contain the books that should be written. Amen. "

[CTHULUgreatoldone]

uh becaus eits part of the gospel of jesus?why WOULDNT it be in the bible?that is ana absurd rationalization..oh it is CONVENIENTLY not in there so other churchs can just make things up as they go along...

[lds9999]

God reveals things as necessary to His people. Why would it be important for the people in ancient Israel to know about the Book of Mormon.

Jesus did talk about "other sheep" that He would go and visit when he was finished in Israel. John 10:16.

[CTHULUgreatoldone]

oh so there were two very large tribe s of isreal living in north america...but no OTHER cultures or civilizations documented there existance..what were they INSVISIBLE?

[lds9999]

You really believe that every people in the ancient Americas knew about each other?

You certainly have not studied history at all.

[CTHULUgreatoldone]

why WOULDNT it if it is a part of gods plan and his prophecies?oh welll BIGFOOT must be real because we dont know that he ISNT.

[lds9999]

You believe in Bigfoot? Hmm.....

[tghetto5]

Jesus was never in America...You guys must be thinking of My Mexican Gardner Pronunced (hey zuzes)lol

[lds9999]

How do you know Jesus was never in America?

[tghetto5]

Because It dosent mention it in the Bible...That would be funny tho

[lds9999]

Is the Bible the ONLY source of truth? Why would it have to be mentioned in the Bible?

[tghetto5]

when it comes to Jesus, yeah, the bible is the only source of truth...now when it comes to stuff Like "Nephites" and "Laminates" then you can turn to my hommie Joseph smiths book...Which I find hard to belive

[lds9999]

What about the Spirit of God? Another source of truth? After all, didn't Jesus say that the Comforter would teach us all things? (John 14:26)

[CTHULUgreatoldone]

oh ..FUNNY why would the gospel make alll kinds of prophecies and then leave outs omethinG THAT important?you cant be serious....oh but some BOOOK tahts prang up out of nowwhere written bya man who wasnt even ALIVE back thn..is credible?

[lds9999]

I can't understand what your point is here.

[CTHULUgreatoldone]

oh so jesus went to america..but he waited alll teh way up to 1830...why wouldnt he have had his story transcribed to man at teh present time when he was actually THRRE...oh he witenessedto indians and restored the church..uh okay..WHY no christian sects in america when the mayflower arrived?why no remamnants of the civilization?

[lds9999]

It's obvious that you have not done your homework on the Book of Mormon.

The Book of Mormon was written from approximately 600 B.C. to 421 A.D. It was not written in the 1800s; it was translated at that time.

And for the answer to your other question, maybe you should pick up a copy of the book and actually read it. Although I think it's doubtful that you would do that, because you seem content to rely on second-hand sources only.

[CTHULUgreatoldone]

oh and that must be the ONLY accurate account of history dating back to 600 B.C...oh ALLL OTHER historical accounts is second hand info?LOL

[lds9999]

First, I've got to say that using more comments is not better. You left 14 comments the last time you came on. It would be great if you could be a little more succint--easier to respond to.

I never said that all other historical accounts are second hand. What I said is that you have never read the Book of Mormon. Instead you read things ABOUT the Book of Mormon--those are second-hand.

You rely on those second-hand sources for your information about the Book of Mormon,, not first-hand.

[CTHULUgreatoldone]

okay...can you explain why there si NO OTHER hisrical record of these civilizations besides ONE boook that didnt even come out until 1830...if these two large tribes had habitated in america wopuldnt others have recorded there existance...wouldnt they have left behind buildings and physical artifacts..?large stone cities...?

[lds9999]

As I mentioned before, only a relatively small percentage of the sites in Central and South America have been excavated.

[CTHULUgreatoldone]

okay you are playing SPIN...how can you say the BOM is the only meter of truth for the last two thousand years...can you actually SHOW me any historical record of american isrealites from any OTHER civilizations writings?i mean if it REALLy happened thn there must be documentts PRE 1830 right?

[lds9999]

Again, I would encourage you to read more carefully.

Show me ONE place where I said "the BOM is the only meter of truth for the last two thousands years."

I never came close to saying that, at all. I don't even know how to respond that, since you're making things up.

[CTHULUgreatoldone]

hey yeah ..just asking these LDS folks why the BOM references civilizations and cultures that have NO historical documentation if it is true.

[CTHULUgreatoldone]

caus e it isnt PROPHECISIZED in the BIBLE and there w ere NOT any historical records of any sects of christianity when the settelers arrived..oh he went to AMERICA and WITNESSED to peoepl but there werent any christian themed churches when the settlers arrived here?

[lds9999]

If you had read the Book of Mormon in its entirety, the answer to this question would be obvious.

Like the vast majority of other critics, you probably have not read the Book of Mormon.

[CTHULUgreatoldone]

whyw do we needd o...so basically your saying ONE boook that came out in 1830 trumps 2000 years of written and oral history..that is so ridiculous

[lds9999]

The Book of Mormon does not "trump" the Bible. It goes hand in hand with it and testifies of Jesus Christ.

[CTHULUgreatoldone]

oh really>?what a bout alll OTHEr civilizations taht have lived in north and south america who make NO mention of any lost hebrew tribes..ARE ALLL of them wrong too?oh but ONE book that came out in RECENT times trumps alll OTHER hsitorical data..?do you realize how absurd your argument is?that only ONE history boook can be telling the truth?

[lds9999]

If you didn't notice, you're repeating yourself. I refer you to my other answers.

[davidls11]

How can you ridicule the book of mormon (which is total nonsense) without also ridiculing the bible, which is also total nonsense? ALL religions are made up superstitions. One is no better than another.

And to any mormons out there with open minds (ha ha), watch the movie "Latter Days" to see the harm you're doing to your own children. PM me for a free link.

[lds9999]

I think your comment about "Latter Days" is hilarious. For a person who would probably claim that they base their views on "reason", it's hilarious that you base your views instead on a fictional movie.

Haha, classic.

[davidls11]

So you've seen the film?

[lds9999]

There are clips on Youtube which I haven't wasted my time with.

But you do realize that it is fictional?

[davidls11]

A "person of faith" asking ME if I know the difference between reality and fantasy? Now that's "Haha, classic". But you really should watch Latter Days. Not only is it a wonderful love story, it's the only mainstream movie I can recall that deals with mormons. Intellectual curiosity alone should motivate you. I'd be interested to know if you think it accurately depicts mormons in the given situation.

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[lds9999]

At least you realize the irony that while putting down others, you are basing your beliefs on a fictional movie.

Also, I wouldn't call Latter-days a "mainstream movie." It grossed only about 800K. There are many more mainstream movies that represent Latter-day Saints (and do so a lot more accurately from what I've heard about "Latter-days").

[davidls11]

So you have no intention of seeing the film and judging for yourself? Big surprise. Don't bother to reply. I think we're done here. But thank you for responding to my comments.

[lds9999]

I have better things to do with my time than watch that film. MUCH better things.

[CTHULUgreatoldone]

oh but ONE boook from 1830 against 2000 years of recorded history MUST be true..now THAT is classic.

[CTHULUgreatoldone]

i am ridiculuing teh fact taht ..of the the theory of american hebrew tribes. eventhough there is NO historical record of those civilizations ever living here in america.

[CTHULUgreatoldone]

OH S O the BOOOK OF MORMON is the only source of historical truth for the evenst of the past 2000 years...do you realize what an ABSURD and ridiculous argument that is?

[lds9999]

Where did I say that? You're making things up.

[JustinMartyrJr]

The Bible is filled with prophetic types of Christ's world trek in symbols that early Christians used to metaphorically illustrate this point in "typologies":

Christ is like the good shepherd seeking his sheep in every place & after life realm.

Christ is a rolling stone, rolling forth into all nations.

Likened unto a tree which branches spread forth into all nations & roots that descend into the underworld realms of the dead to preach the gospel there.

Christ is likened unto the sun

[JustinMartyrJr]

As the sun shines over the whole world, so Christ, the light of the world, shines forth into all nations & after life realms.

Christ is the life giving water that flows forth into all the "four quarter parts of the earth" as numerous art works depict. But also, he floods the underworld with "the water seal" of baptism as he & his apostles & prophets preach the gospel to the spirit prisoners.

Christ is likened unto healing wings, under which the nations gather for healing & protection.

[tghetto5]

Oh Okay now I get it Jesus was everywhere....thanks for opening my eyes man...sike

[JustinMartyrJr]

Christ is likened unto a Gardner, tending his the world as if it were a garden that needs to be watched over, cared for.

Christ is like a "man traveling in a far country, bearing gifts," the gifts of his gospel throughout the world.

Christ is likened unto homeless wanderer, & in Christian lore, Christ wanders about in different guises, as he goes forth to test the world to see who would receive him.

Christ is likened unto & is the King of Kings, the banner bearer, marching forth to war.

[JustinMartyrJr]

Christ is depicted with banner-weapons, used to stab devil, demons & personified deaths, as depicted in art works, (1 Cor. 15). Thus, the "militant Christ" is a type of Christ's post-descent into hell, & post resurrection victory march, or harrowing of hell. Where Christ & the resurrected trample over devils, a personified death & hell. Often depicted under their feet, as they march out of hell with Christ showing the way to the Father, 1 Peter 3:15-22; 4:5-6; Eph. 4:7-14; Isa. 14; etc.

[JustinMartyrJr]

Christ is likened unto the victorious Knight-King that rests his foot on his fallen foes, (Isaiah 14), this is why we see Christ in art works dressed a militant warrior gear, for he goes forth throughout the world, different after life realms & the universe to battle the devil & his fallen angels.

Christ is the Pantocrator, enthroned & ruler of the world & nations. This is also depicted in art too.

These types are numerous, & they are historic Christians' evidence of Christ's global treks!

[JustinMartyrJr]

For a documentary on these things see, Christ As Cosmic Cruiser, by clicking on my name, Justin Martyr Jr

[familyradiolistener]

no!

[lds9999]

Yes!

[Rayzqan]

The Savior did say that. And if you do not believe us...then pray to God in the name of Jesus Christ, and ask him if it is the truth. I testify that it works. Jesus was in America. I testify of this in the name of Jesus Christ. Amen.

[skyaglow]

I to know The Book of Mormon is true.

It's another testiment of Christ

thank you for posting

God bless you and your loved ones!

[LdsNanaAskMormon]

Thank you once again... my friend. We are good missionary companions, you and I. This is exactly what I need for the article I am publishing this afternoon on hubpages about the true meaning of Easter!

God Bless!

tDMg

LdsNana-AskMormon

[nathanielmacrae]

Oh boy...