Newsflash to all the Katz and Kooper haters. One thing should be made clear: Both Katz and Kooper founded the Blues Project and wrote most of the songs on the first Blood Sweat & Tears LP, so stop your whining!
@funkadelphiarecords Wow are there a lot of haters?, Al Cooper has so much history with 60's Pop and Rock its hard to believe there are haters. Steve Katz does great vocals on this album ...And Al Kooper is so talented, producer, player, singer..whats to hate? ...my friend
I was in high school and completely immersed in music when Child Is Father To The Man came out. My friends and I listened and memorized and agreed on how awesome the album was. However we also agreed that Steve Katz'ssoloing was awful in tone and playing. In the vid of Something Going On I see he has dispensed with the cheesy fuzztone but his playing is no more advanced than it was in 68. Never mind the singing.
Yeah Steve you lite your purest candle and burned Al Kooper out of his fleeting house. But you sound good .. everyone does this sound better than Tim Buckley.
@rockinroller7 Oh yeah, then you be damned, leave me alone, I cry to you and your fleeting house of cards. Actually I only know a couple songs by Tim and shouldn't comment but that never stopped me before as I like to get nowhere fast. Just so glad David House of Clay Booming Voice Thomas wasn't around to screw this song in the wrong measure that would be kind to be cruel and not bona fide to coincide means Peace to you.
@11xzxzxz Mike, your unflinching attitude that allows you to be critical of even your favorite artists and bands is just one of the things I respect you for.
Your play on words that has me befuddled at times is also a critical part of true honesty in a person. You are what you write.
@rockinroller7 Hey thanks man that's the nicest yet most confusing thing I've ever heard. If only others had your very disturbed sort of thinking .... really thanks so much! My red neck friend says thanks too.
Great song. But Steve Katz and friends kicked Al Kooper out of the band for David no-talent big-voice David Calyton Thomas. The BS&Tears first record is a classic.
I agree with you, 1946don, that B,S&T's 1st album, "Child Is Father to the Man" is a pioneering classic of blues music fused with jazzy horns, classical strings & catchy pop melodies. It was a ground-breaking album! Since the genius Al Kooper was eased out of his own band, that 1st album will forever be unique in pop music.
The whole fusion of rock and jazz with the horns was masterminded and originated by Al Kooper in the first BS&T album. He wrote all the horn parts and then left the group after that album. Although I love CTA - it will alwayss be that Child is father to the man album that means the most to me.
I first found this song with This Mortal Coil, the 4AD group who covered (uncovered for some like me) many great musicians such as Ogan and Buckley.
Without that exposure, I wouldn't have discovered so soon Jeff B, Tim's son and a musical power.
It is with awe and joy I come full-circle to a BS&T member covering the song-- true to the original Buckley rendition. I am embarrassed to say that before today and a look at a Wikipedia article, I didn't know the BS&T album!
Wow, it was truly fantastic to hear Steve Katz sing this song from B,S & T's first album, "Child is Father to the Man", 1968. He certainly sounded better here than in the original recording which, as rdangelo said, was a trembling vibrato. It was also exciting to see trumpeters Randy Brecker and Lew Soloff perform side by side. Randy was an original B,S & T member from the 1st album while Lew replaced him on the 2nd album which introduced DCT.
@rrdjazzcat - Randy, Al Kooper and Jerry Weiss (a friend all the way back to elementary school) all left the group before the second album. The group became (in my opinion) just a 'Chicago' clone, with DCT. Listen also to Steve Katz with the original Blues Project.
I can understand how many of us can get the impression that B,S & T was sounding like Chicago when DCT joined the band w/ the 2nd album. After all, that eponymous 2nd album came out in the same year as CTA (1969). However, the B,S&T LP came out months ahead of CTA & became a huge million-seller while CTA didn't sell well until after the "Make Me Smile" & "25 or to 4" singles from Chicago II the next year, 1970.
So, strictly speaking, B,S&T (w/ DCT) pioneered that more commercial horn-oriented sound & Chicago was certainly influenced by the success of the 2nd B,S&T album. After all, Jim Guercio is credited as the album's producer (altho Bobby Colomby later claimed Guercio wasn't present in the studio that much during the recording sessions) & that same year (1969), Guercio produced CTA. Which seems to validate what Colomby claimed since Guercio was too busy w/ CTA.
Thanks - I do stand corrected ... when CTA (and how many of us still have that first double-album simply called CTA?) first appeared, the horn's, etc were not as pronounced as in Chicago 2 and subsequent albums. But I still favor the first BS&T album and style. But thanks for the info.
Since trumpeter Jerry Weiss has been your friend since elementary, would you know, 1946don, if J. Weiss continued to be involved in the music biz since he left B,S&T back in '68-'69? I know Randy Brecker formed Dreams then Brecker Brothers then a great ongoing solo career as an A-1 session musician & recording artist, but I've always wondered about Jerry Weiss.
For some reason Steve Katz decided that he would not allow his performances to be on the album of the concert - Koop dubbed the guitarist from his at-that-time band n all of Steve's guitar parts.
I know I'm going to catch a lot of crap from the fans of this clip & its artists, and I also know that I'm pointing to a different genre of music when I say that Tim Buckley's version of this song (Goodbye & Hello album) is much better & unbeatable. Give it a try!
I do agree that Steve Katz sings this song very nicely, he still sings very beautiful and other songs that he sang before during his BLUES PROJECT Days and BLOOD, SWEAT & TEARS Days too
This was the great BS&T before the fricken David Clayton Thomas .. the cast cast aside Al kooper - the genius who helped out bob dylan with a great organ on like a rolling stone.
Newsflash to all the Katz and Kooper haters. One thing should be made clear: Both Katz and Kooper founded the Blues Project and wrote most of the songs on the first Blood Sweat & Tears LP, so stop your whining!
funkadelphiarecords 1 month ago
@funkadelphiarecords Wow are there a lot of haters?, Al Cooper has so much history with 60's Pop and Rock its hard to believe there are haters. Steve Katz does great vocals on this album ...And Al Kooper is so talented, producer, player, singer..whats to hate? ...my friend
jjs499 2 weeks ago
Ah, that original horn section. Doesn't get any better. Will Lee does a bang up job on bass. He could make any band great.
lordritchie 3 months ago
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GarrickCostello 9 months ago
I was in high school and completely immersed in music when Child Is Father To The Man came out. My friends and I listened and memorized and agreed on how awesome the album was. However we also agreed that Steve Katz'ssoloing was awful in tone and playing. In the vid of Something Going On I see he has dispensed with the cheesy fuzztone but his playing is no more advanced than it was in 68. Never mind the singing.
lovethatswivo 1 year ago
please listen to my videos of original dark keyboard music
theotherrundgren 1 year ago
Yeah Steve you lite your purest candle and burned Al Kooper out of his fleeting house. But you sound good .. everyone does this sound better than Tim Buckley.
11xzxzxz 1 year ago
@11xzxzxz yeah, I guess many people could take it either way, but I'm a die hard Buckley (Father and son) fan.
Peace.
Rock
rockinroller7 1 year ago
@rockinroller7 Oh yeah, then you be damned, leave me alone, I cry to you and your fleeting house of cards. Actually I only know a couple songs by Tim and shouldn't comment but that never stopped me before as I like to get nowhere fast. Just so glad David House of Clay Booming Voice Thomas wasn't around to screw this song in the wrong measure that would be kind to be cruel and not bona fide to coincide means Peace to you.
11xzxzxz 1 year ago
@11xzxzxz Mike, your unflinching attitude that allows you to be critical of even your favorite artists and bands is just one of the things I respect you for.
Your play on words that has me befuddled at times is also a critical part of true honesty in a person. You are what you write.
Peace.
Your, "Redneck Friend."
rockinroller7 1 year ago
@rockinroller7 Hey thanks man that's the nicest yet most confusing thing I've ever heard. If only others had your very disturbed sort of thinking .... really thanks so much! My red neck friend says thanks too.
11xzxzxz 1 year ago
@11xzxzxz Totally my pleasure!
Peace.
Ross
rockinroller7 1 year ago
Great song. But Steve Katz and friends kicked Al Kooper out of the band for David no-talent big-voice David Calyton Thomas. The BS&Tears first record is a classic.
11xzxzxz 1 year ago
So great and timeless.
cedarcop 1 year ago
I agree with you, 1946don, that B,S&T's 1st album, "Child Is Father to the Man" is a pioneering classic of blues music fused with jazzy horns, classical strings & catchy pop melodies. It was a ground-breaking album! Since the genius Al Kooper was eased out of his own band, that 1st album will forever be unique in pop music.
boombabiesrrd 2 years ago
Holy shit Al Kooper looks like Terence Mckenna
BlueNote4003 2 years ago
The whole fusion of rock and jazz with the horns was masterminded and originated by Al Kooper in the first BS&T album. He wrote all the horn parts and then left the group after that album. Although I love CTA - it will alwayss be that Child is father to the man album that means the most to me.
rw1127 2 years ago
Wow! I remember grooving on this on the 8-track!!! in my car!!!
Drumcam 2 years ago
That's funny criticism.
I first found this song with This Mortal Coil, the 4AD group who covered (uncovered for some like me) many great musicians such as Ogan and Buckley.
Without that exposure, I wouldn't have discovered so soon Jeff B, Tim's son and a musical power.
It is with awe and joy I come full-circle to a BS&T member covering the song-- true to the original Buckley rendition. I am embarrassed to say that before today and a look at a Wikipedia article, I didn't know the BS&T album!
jrh98033 2 years ago 2
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This sucks!!! Steve Katz should never be allowed near a mike or a guitar!! Stop,stop, I'll confess.......
g2theg 3 years ago
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hannibalsmith83 2 years ago
Steve Katz refused to sign off on the recording so they erased his parts and had Jimmy Vivino overdub the guitar parts.
rkjazzfan 3 years ago
Wow, it was truly fantastic to hear Steve Katz sing this song from B,S & T's first album, "Child is Father to the Man", 1968. He certainly sounded better here than in the original recording which, as rdangelo said, was a trembling vibrato. It was also exciting to see trumpeters Randy Brecker and Lew Soloff perform side by side. Randy was an original B,S & T member from the 1st album while Lew replaced him on the 2nd album which introduced DCT.
rrdjazzcat 3 years ago 2
@rrdjazzcat - Randy, Al Kooper and Jerry Weiss (a friend all the way back to elementary school) all left the group before the second album. The group became (in my opinion) just a 'Chicago' clone, with DCT. Listen also to Steve Katz with the original Blues Project.
1946don 2 years ago
I can understand how many of us can get the impression that B,S & T was sounding like Chicago when DCT joined the band w/ the 2nd album. After all, that eponymous 2nd album came out in the same year as CTA (1969). However, the B,S&T LP came out months ahead of CTA & became a huge million-seller while CTA didn't sell well until after the "Make Me Smile" & "25 or to 4" singles from Chicago II the next year, 1970.
boombabiesrrd 2 years ago
So, strictly speaking, B,S&T (w/ DCT) pioneered that more commercial horn-oriented sound & Chicago was certainly influenced by the success of the 2nd B,S&T album. After all, Jim Guercio is credited as the album's producer (altho Bobby Colomby later claimed Guercio wasn't present in the studio that much during the recording sessions) & that same year (1969), Guercio produced CTA. Which seems to validate what Colomby claimed since Guercio was too busy w/ CTA.
boombabiesrrd 2 years ago
Thanks - I do stand corrected ... when CTA (and how many of us still have that first double-album simply called CTA?) first appeared, the horn's, etc were not as pronounced as in Chicago 2 and subsequent albums. But I still favor the first BS&T album and style. But thanks for the info.
1946don 2 years ago
Since trumpeter Jerry Weiss has been your friend since elementary, would you know, 1946don, if J. Weiss continued to be involved in the music biz since he left B,S&T back in '68-'69? I know Randy Brecker formed Dreams then Brecker Brothers then a great ongoing solo career as an A-1 session musician & recording artist, but I've always wondered about Jerry Weiss.
boombabiesrrd 2 years ago
Another fine tune from the band.
pubmasterj 3 years ago 2
Uncle Dave who insisted on singing at the wedding...
Raymantico 3 years ago
The only think I can't take about the original is Katz's trembling vibrato. What's up with that?
rdangelo 3 years ago
For some reason Steve Katz decided that he would not allow his performances to be on the album of the concert - Koop dubbed the guitarist from his at-that-time band n all of Steve's guitar parts.
griffinia 3 years ago
WOW!! to this video. I have the 2 cd set from this event. is there an actual dvd of the whole concert ???? Please let me know if so thanks!!!
luvirish 3 years ago
I know I'm going to catch a lot of crap from the fans of this clip & its artists, and I also know that I'm pointing to a different genre of music when I say that Tim Buckley's version of this song (Goodbye & Hello album) is much better & unbeatable. Give it a try!
RonW007 3 years ago 2
Fantastic cover, the kind that only BS&T can perform!
Thanks for the upload
heaven17 3 years ago
What a treasure! Steve Katz, an underrated singer--beautiful voice.
wendythev 3 years ago
Agreed! Saw Steve Katz with Al Kooper at The Bottom Line in June of 1990 at a Blues Project reunion(all 5 members where there).
He did his version of Catch The Wind.
JohnFPorcaro 3 years ago
Makes you wonder what it would have been like if Laura Nyro had been part of BS&T. Could you imagine how her voice would blend with Steve Katz's?
yongadog 4 years ago
this performance has made my day. thank you. i never got to see them live. thank you thank you.
JOANNBLAKE 4 years ago
Listening to Steve Katz sing, takes my breath away and he is still a wonderful singer and a wonderful guitarist too!
TSapkaroski 4 years ago
Great video. I caught Al several times over the years at the Bottom Line in NYC -- and I just ran into him on a flight from Boston to Newark!
JVCAmerica 4 years ago
It's amazing!
Kbd:Al Kooper
Gtr&Vo:Steve Katz
Sax:Fred Lipsius
Tp:Lew Soloff
Tp:Randy Brecker?
Who are playing Bass and Drum ?
maynyoro 4 years ago
Anton Fig on drums and Will Lee on bass.From the David Letterman show.
madshadows830 4 years ago
Yes that's Randy,I just saw your question mark :)
madshadows830 4 years ago
Thanks a lot to madshadows830.
from Japan.
maynyoro 4 years ago
I do agree that Steve Katz sings this song very nicely, he still sings very beautiful and other songs that he sang before during his BLUES PROJECT Days and BLOOD, SWEAT & TEARS Days too
TSapkaroski 4 years ago
This was the great BS&T before the fricken David Clayton Thomas .. the cast cast aside Al kooper - the genius who helped out bob dylan with a great organ on like a rolling stone.
11xzxzxz 4 years ago 2
BS&T went from one of my favorite bands to a band I could not listen to when the exiled Kooper. One of the dumbest move in 1960's music
rockybert 4 years ago
Thank you!
letno58 4 years ago