qedim azerbaycan qedim manna dovleti qedim atropatena texribat hesab edilen bu xeriteleri ermeniler ele ozleri cekib nece ta qedimlerden ermeniler ele bu xeritenin yerlesdiyi olkeden beli yunanstannan kockun olunmus ermenilerdiki gelib bize sigindilar ve tarix boyunca torpaqlarimizi isgal etdiler bes eledise hani bu xeritedeki osmanli dovleti gorursuz bu xerite absurtdu. Acin tarix kitablarin oxuyun. sozu olan emailime yazsin bmirzeyev@bk.ru
@MegaAnushavan խնդիրն այլ է........ հավանաբար.... Խորենացու մասին է խոսքը.... սա կռիվ է ամբողջ Աշխարհի դեմ.... պետք է հարմար դիրքավորվել... միեւնույնն է.... քեզ քչերը ԿՑԱՆԿԱՆԱՆ հասկանալ.....իմացողը գիտի ... դա նրան բավական է հայերին ատելու համար..................... Մեր պատմության մեջ գաղտնիքներն ավելի շատ են...քան ամբողջ աշխարհում........կարծում եմ կռահեցիր.... որովհետեւ ամբողջ աշխարհն այլ բան չէ...քան հայոց գաղտնիքի մեջ ուռած փուչիկ..... սպասել է պետք...բոոոո՜ւմ...ու ամեն բան կկարգավորվի....
Чего раскричались азербабараны? Об истории они говорят! Ещё сам Гумилёв писал, что первые гос-ва предков азеров назывались "Ак кюнлу" и "Кара кюнлу", что в переводе значит "белые бараны" и "чёрные бараны". Только такой народ как азеры может с гордостью называть себя баранами. Вопрос к азерам: а вы из белых или чёрных баранов?
where did u find these fake maps. We are grandsons of Caucasian Albanian. U r ethnic persians. u must know. ur country was van lake areas. but caucasus belongs to us. and ur not caucasian albans. go and learn history. ur so dark and ugly like indians and iranians. but we r real caucasians!!!
@SuperKaukaz Grandsons of Caucasian Albanians are Udis and Lezghis, not Azerbaijanians. Armenians aren't Persian that bullshit can be found only in your publications. Ancient Armenian included also lake Van and modern day Armenian Republic. Go and learn history but not made by Azerbaijanian scholars.
@everythingisahead hahah another stupid dark non educated terrorist. i know history enough. u need to learn history. ur not caucasians. caucasus belongs to azerb. and georgia. north caucasus also. but r came here from middle asia. u know wheere is caucasisan albania s capital? Kabalaka (Qabala) where is there? in Azerbaijan. so u go learn ur history and don t argue with me. cuz u r wrong.
@SuperKaukaz Wow, your stupid expressions about me speak themselves who is stupid and uneducated of us. Troya in Turkey so what? That doesn't make Turks Troyans.
@SuperKaukaz I just give you example if you don't get it. My history is not fake, but real and objective which can't be said about history taught in Azerbaijan which is bastardized and spreading hate,
caucasian albanian was the name of azerbaijan republic. armenians were gipsies they came to caucasus from western and southern asia, u can see today in jordan, iran, iran, lebanon, afghanistan many ethnic armenian minorities. South Caucasus Belongs to Azerbaijan and Georgia
@SuperKaukaz You are one of the dumbest men I have seen on youtube. Did you not watch the video? Armenia did not arrive from anywhere, we have been on that land since Noah!! Now you Azeris are saying that we are albanian and that we came from them lmaoo Great!! Still Armenia has been there way before your supposed Albanians came. Don't try to change what has always been true. That land is Armenian, That region is Armenian, Your country is even ours loll
@SuperKaukaz And the reason you see ethnic Armenians living in iran,Lebanon and other countries around that region is because they ran away from the 1915 genocide and so they were seeking shelter and a new life to live. So they stayed and became Armenians living in those countries and most adopted the way of life, but still they say we are Armenian and when the war broke out against Faggot Azeris they all came from around the world and fought for Armenia. Because they are Armenian
@elvinmilan What you cant accept reality? does the truth piss you off? See the truth is there was Armenia long long long long before there was turkey or azerbaijan. SO YOU FUCK OFF!
a turkish and azeri pray and ask god to destroy armenia, two days later a huge disaster at oil pump in azerbeycan and a big earthquake in turkey! the turkish and azeri say to god, oh god what we ask and what we get. god answer SORRY GUYZ IVE GOT ARMENIAS OLD MAP!
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since 3 century after "Great Amenia"... Azerbaijanis states... Albania... Sirvansah... Salarid state... Sadjid state... Great Atabegs (Eldeniz state)... Qara Qoyunlu... Aq Qoyunlu... Sefevi empire... Azerbaijanis khaganates...do you think about it...about your LUZER Armenian hISTORY...
Больше чем Римская Империя !!! А где Грузия ? Она точно была отдельным государством, нам об этом в школе рассказывали ! Вот поэтому армяшек нигде не любят !
@MsVafa8 "Столько врете, что начинаете сами верить в свое величие". vse pravilno, no eto pro vas mister Chaban. uveren bolee glupix chem azeri ne nayti vo vsem svete. Nu vi i tupie!
@MsVafa8 ты гандон ты вообще кто такой хуесос,это ты прочти свою истори,и кто у кого живет на каких землях кочевники ебаные,вы живете на армянсих землях,цыгани это как раз вы,ослаебы,как я вас призераю,как я вас не навижу,я вас буду ебать очень жестко,алтайская чюрка,арбузные магнаты блять
@MsVafa8 Блядь хто бы говорил ... КОЧЕВНИК ИЗ АЛТАЯ БЛЯ! Тут только вы на чужой земле живете! ВАЛИТЕ ОБРАТНО В СВОЮ МОНГОЛИЮ БЛЯ ПИДРЫ ЧУЧМЕРСКОЙ НАЦИОНАЛЬНОСТИ
@MsVafa8 ай чатлах азерский.....ты ПИЗДУН! эти карты не армяне составляли...кстати твоё племя азеров до 20 века называли не иначе как каквказские татары! Запмони это неуч.
@MsVafa8 axchi poshel ti na xui mi videm kto cigan bliadina ti azeskaya vi sami prisumali sebe istoriu i sami ne nem verite griaznie spidavozi kasvkaskie tatari.. idite chitaite mirovioy istoriou anan sikim
@sevki79 , LMFAOOOOOOO. wow.. ok.. i understand your a child, but how old are you dude? from what you just said i sure your brain is the size of a fetus. xD hahaha.. wow.. stupid turk. wow.. lol hahahaha
@sevki79 Armenians have nothing with Romas. It is another fairy tale created by lier and politically biased Azerbaijani historians. First check up the origin of Azerbaijanis then write about Armenians.
You're attempting to implement pseudoscience (poorly) to prove insane theories that are more ideological than anything else. Marr claimed that Georgian was related to the Semitic languages and Basque (a language isolate).
Pfft.
This means that Marr utterly disregarded the radically different lexicons and grammatical structures. Georgian is no more related to the Semitic languages and Basque than Latin is related to Tagalog and Mandarin.
@ArizonaFlame and we should believe what a great arizona fuckingflame said
lol man, you need evidences? ask about that the basques, not the Georgians and then ask the population of England do they recognize the Armenian claims about Brites or not. then youll see who is right :))) i am not speaking about "old " books i am speaking on common people and belief, what they believe. who are they and from where came... please stop replying to me. i am really bothered of you.
Why are you bothered? Can't substantiate every single farcical 'fact' you've tried to spoon-feed me so far? I asked for names, and you give me the name of a Georgian linguist who was a complete joke.
@XOZOgeo The claim about Ancient Britons doesn't come from Armenians. It's clearly written in the oldest history book of England, written in old English. Obviously, Armenians are proud of it, and thus, spread the information around. Georgians would, too, if it said "Georgia" instead of "Armenia."
@XOZOgeo Just because you have a deep hate for Armenians, it doesn't mean that every claim that favors Armenians comes from Armenians.
And for the record, I don't think the idea that "Ancient Britons came from Armenia" really favors Armenians. It really doesn't change anything, because for all we know, it might just be a fairy tale told in ancient Britain.
You just don't like that idea because it gives more credit to Armenians than your convictions allow.
@XOZOgeo dude right now i cant tell just by ur comments ur either azergayjan of turgay...u look like a retard saying all this stupid shit.. armenians never sotle land we alsways wanted peace since we became the first chrisitans in 301AD.. armenians are peacefull ppl.. its just that turkey in the past only wanted violence not just from armenians, but from greece as well..and azerbaijan is not even 100 years old.. what u were created by russia in 1918 if im not wrong.. LOL
You're attempting to implement pseudoscience (poorly) to prove insane theories that are more ideological than anything else. Marr said Georgian was related to the Semitic languages and Basque.
Pffft.
This means that Marr utterly disregarded the radically different lexicons and grammatical structures. Georgian is no more related to the Semitic languages and Basque than Latin is related to Malay.
I don't quite understand how you can even tell if those maps are the same as Quin's. They're so poorly drawn and the land shapes are just so wrong and innaccurate.
@ArizonaFlame allmost all armenian claims the sucked from finger but nothing makes you to stop bubbling about them :))))) so why i should worry what the worlds most fake historians do and say? we have own proven hystory a and not give a fuck what you claim here :)))) we just remind what you are in real :))) and whatever you'd say we are always here to uncover your lies. good bye. when you say anithing to our direction, youd allways be answered well enough. no mater believe you in this or not.
@ArizonaFlame weak-mind :)))) i can tell you are really funny :))) vulgar? what can be the more vulgar that armenians behavior in Georgia? stop this shit and come i your "motherland" see at place whom you are so admiring. i told you already ten times. it is easy to type here how great you are :) but see it in real life and if you have some sense of humanity at least youl think on many things why georgians are so negativelly minded to you. dont bother me i told you boy
Oh, more vulgar and profane language. Wow. Can't control your temper? Can't absolve your feelings in a calm and orderly manner? Tsk, tsk. Perhaps you lack confindence and self-esteem, much like religious zealots who can't prove the existence of their imaginary friend, and resort to vicious name-calling and defensive language.
Ah, okay. Nicholas Marr, born in Tsarist Georgia to a Scottish father and Georgian mother, was notable for his pseudoscientific "Japhetic theory". What a joke. Georgian related to the Semitic languages? Any intelligent linguist would say otherwise.
There are two other events called the 'Assyrian Genocide' and the 'Pontic Greek Genocide. Why didn't I mention them though they are important? There is no collective term for what the Ottoman Empire did to their Christian minority. The term 'Holocaust' on the other hand, is the collective term for the Nazi's crimes, which includes the genocide of the Jews, Roma, Poles, and the persecution of the Freemasons, Jehovah's Witnesses, and political opponents.
ARMYANE ne obrachaite vnimanie na ix gavkanie,,poshli vse na xui ,kto nas ne lubit!!!pust zaviduyut nam!!!mi ta nacia ,kotoroi zaviduyut!!! Mi doljni bit gordi tem,shto mi armyane!!!a ix komentarii doljni bit poxuiu. Mi mnogoe dobilis v mire nas lubyat i uvajaut!!a eti pust nazivaut sebya bratyami i zaviduyut:)))stavyat pamyatniki prezidentov drugdrugu,nazivaut ubiic svoix prodedov bratyami!!!A mi budem jit,jit vsegda,A KTO NAS NE LUBIT I ZAVIDUET,POSHLI VSE NA XUI!!!!
ARMYANE ne obrachaite vnimanie na ix gavkanie,,poshli vse na xui ,kto nas ne lubit!!!pust zaviduyut nam!!!mi ta nacia ,kotoroi zaviduyut!!! Mi doljni bit gordi tem,shto mi armyane!!!a ix komentarii doljni bit poxuiu. Mi mnogoe dobilis v mire nas lubyat i uvajaut!!a eti pust nazivaut sebya bratyami i zaviduyut:)))stavyat pamyatniki prezidentov drugdrugu,nazivaut ubiic svoix prodedov bratyami!!!A mi budem jit,jit vsegda,A KTO NAS NE LUBIT I ZAVIDUET,POSHLI VSE NA XUI!!!!
@armenianingeorgia SHE YVERO IMDENI AZRI MAIC DAATANE RAS WER RO REALURAD JGERDES :)))) SAD GINAXIA KACHI KLAVIATURAZE WERDES PI PIRZE QAFEBI ADGEBODES. XO VAMBOB MAGARI KVERCXI XAR TQO :)
nu ti pravda svinya,brosit devushku radi togo shto ona drugoi nacionalnost:))i posle etogo imeesh prava shtoto govorit??nacist i fashist ti nastoyachi,s takimi kak ti v 41-45 godax stalin znal kak postupat.vsex ne perebyesh,ktoto vsetaki vijivaet:)))
@armenianingeorgia DA JA ATKAZIVAIUS OT DETEI VAZGENOV DO TAVO KAK IX NARADIT I MNE ZA ETO NI CHUT NE STIDNO. A VOT VAM VSEGDA NUJNO POKAZAT I DOKAZIVAT MIRU KAKIE J VI AXRENITELNIE LUDI :ppppp :))) I VSO RAVNO VAM NIKTO NIKAGDA NE DOVERJAET IZ ZA VASHEGO PRODAJNOSTI.KANECHNO NE VSE LUDI V NACII MOGUT BIT ODNOGO RASKLADA I LUDI SREDI VAS TOJE BIVAIUT XAROSHIE I PREDANNIE, NO V CELOM VAS JA NE UVAJAIU I ETO SKTIVAT NE SOBIRAIUS.PRICHIN JA TE PERECHISLIL UJE MNOGO. TI PRO INTERES U NEE SPROSI :)
@armenianingeorgia NET JA NE OT DRUGOI NACIONALNOSTI ATKAZALSJA, A IMENNO OT ARMJANKI. I EST RAZNICA. TE BUDU MUTIT SVOIU KROV S VAMI. U VAS GENI NE TE I AUKNETSJA ETO. PONJAL? JA NEPROSTO NACMEN, A IMENNA VAS NEDOLUBLIVAIU. ZA VOT VSO ETO CHTO VI TVARITE V MESTO NORMALNOGO SOSUSHESTVOVANII. PODLUKI NA VAS NIKAGDA NELZJA PALOJITSJA ESLI VSIU JIZN NE ZNAESH. I DASTAT SLUCHI CHEGO NE MOJESH.
@armenianingeorgia AVI TAKOGO NE DELAETE :))))) ETO U VAS FIRMENNOE--VINIT V SVOIX GREXAX CHUJIX :) VI TO S AZERAMI ETO TVARITE TO SGRUZINAMI.PONJATNOE DELO KROME BLIJNEGO NEKAVO OBIJAT.NO NEMNOGO VAM OSTALOS POVER. WASHA UCHEST UJE GATOVA. DAJE BEZ VOINI. ARMENII KAK TAKAVOI NE STANET,-ROJDAEMOST NIJE KRITICHESKOGO PAROGA U VAS DAVNO. I BUDETE POTOM BEGAT PO MIRU KAK VTORIE EVREI. I NIKTO VAS BLIZKO NE PODPUSTIT.
@armenianingeorgia MI EVREEV PRINJALI DO VASHEGO POJAVLENIA I JILI SNIMI V SOGLASII VEKAMI. TAK CHTO SMESHNO KAGDA NAS NACMENAMI NAZIVAETE. GOST, NEUVAJAIUSHII XOZJAINA DOMA ZASLUJIVAET PINKA V SRAKU I BUDET VAM ETO. DAJE PRI DEMOKRATII S KRAXMALNIM VARATNICHKOM. EBANEK POJIVI I SMOTRI.
@ZeeGooner Because these aren't maps that I made myself. They are antique maps. I couldn't find any maps before the 1500s. Tigran's empire happened before Jesus Christ (and it lasted less than a century)... I don't even think there's any map from that time that survived to this day... except those that were made in stone (like the Imago Mundi).
I AM CLOSING ANY CDISCUSSIONS ABOUT THIS VID, I ALREADY SAIOD WHAD I CONSIDERED TO BE SAID. AND DID NOT GET ANY NORMAL OR PROOVED ANSWER ON MY QUESTIONS. LET OTHERS TO COMPARE WHO'S RIGHT. I DONT GIVE A .... WHAT YOULL SAY NEXT. JUST PLEASE DO NOT DISTURB ME BY STUPID STATEMENTS.
@XOZOgeo I just wish you "closed" that Caps Lock as well. I told you not to type in all caps, it's disturbing, and really unprofessional. You don't look more convincing with all caps, you look more desperate, or threatened, or downright childish. I'm saying this for your own credibility.
@armenianingeorgia NOVOST DLJA TEBJA :))))) HAMSHENI TAKJE KAK I ADJARCI, MUSULMANE..... I CHTO TI GAVARIL GNIDA PRO NACIU? :))))))))) CHE ETO ZA NACIA U VAS TAKAJA OBREZANNAJA:)))))) VOT U ETIX HAMSHENOV I SOSI TEPER UROD :) A VAABSHETO NOVOST DLJA TEBJA. BAGRAMIANCEV SVANI V KODORIO KAK SVINEI ZAREZALI NA KUSKI--TAKAJA VOT U VAS NEBLAGODARNIX PRISHELCHEV UCHEST. DAJE NE SOMNEVAIUS CHTO TI SVOIX TAK NAZIVAEMIX DRUZEI PERVIMI SDASH ESLI DASTSJA I NA TO POIDET. REDKOSTNII TI GONDILA.
@XOZOgeo Баграмяновский батальон давно упразднен. Из хемшилов мусульманами являются только проживающие в Турции, их особенно много в Ризе. Но в в Абхазии и Росси хемшилы такие же последователи Армянской Апостольской Церкви, как и остальные армяне.
@everythingisahead A TI CHE VISKOCHIL :))))) DUMAESH TOLKO TI CHITAT UMEESH? :)))) XOCHESH POZNAKOMLIU S XEMSHILAMI KTO JIVET VGRUZII I MOLITSJA ALLAHU? ZNAESH MNE UJE PO GORLU VASHE VISOKOMERIE NA PUSTOM MESTE. DA ESHO I NE TUDA SUETESE I ZA ETO VSEGDA POLUCHAETE. NELZJA NAM NA VAS NE NADEETSJA NE POLOJITSJA NE DOVERJAT. NAK NA FIG TAKIE VI KAMU NUJNI? VOT SMOTRI NA ETI KARTI. I NA VASHI FANTAZII, RAZVE NORMALNIE LUDI STOLKO VRALI BI? JA BI PONJAL ESLI TAM ODIN DVA RAZA, TUT VAS KALBASIT.
@XOZOgeo Ты че набрасываешься, я тебе нормальным тоном написал. Пусть молятся Аллаху, мне то что ? Никакого высокомерия в моем комментарии не было, а твои высказывания про армян не похожи на высказывания нормального здорового человека.
@everythingisahead NEXERO MNE TVOI PODKLUCHENII JA VRODE NE SPRASHIVAL KTO TAKIE HAMSHENI. I POJASNENII NE PROSIL. A MOI VISKAZIVANII, TAKJE KAK I MOE OTNOSHENIE K ARMAJANSKOMU SHOVINIZMU I VAABSH, K OBSHNOSTI I SUSHNOSTI,VASHEMU IDEOLOGII, JASNA DO PREDELOV. JA NICHEGO NE SKRIVAIU. VAS JA NE NENAVIJU NO I NE UVAJAIU.I IMEIU NA ETO POLNOE PRAVO. KAK CHELOVEK CHELOVEKU MOGU OTNESTITS NAUDIVLENIE VAS OCHEN DAJE NORMALNO. NO VSE CHTO VI SEITE SDES JA KRITIKOVAL I OBSERAL, I BUDU DALSHE.
@everythingisahead UZNAI ZNACHENIA SLOVO SHOVINIZMA I PATOM VSMATRIS V ETI KARTI. ONI SLUJAT NICHEMU BOLEE CHEM SHOVINIZMU. JA NE PRO VSEX ARMAJ XRENOVOGO MNENIJA NO U VAS DAJE VOSPITANIE TAKOE CHTO POLUCHAETSJA VECHNI KONFLIKT. VAS UCHAT DREBEDENI KAKOITO. BUDTO CHTOTO, NA SAMOM DELE TO VSO INACHE, VOT VIDISH NE DUMAL TI CHTO ARMJANE BIVAIUT I MUSULMANE. SKAZALI TEBE PRO ETU KARTU I TEBE XOCHETSJA VERIT... NA SAMOM DELE TO VSO INACHE. NELZJA VISTUPAT I UTVERJDAT NEPROVERENNUIU CHUJ.
@everythingisahead JA OSKARBLJAJU TOLKO TEX KTO ETOGO OT MENJA ZASLUJIVAET. TI MOJESH NAITI NA YOUTUBE GDE JA OBSERAJU KAKUKUIU NIBUD CHISTO ARMANSKUIU CHERTU XARAKTERA ILI LICHNOST NOSJASHI ETOT XARAKTER, NE MOJET BIT CHTOB VSJA NACIA BILA PLAXOI, NO U VAS STOLKO NEGATIVA PO OTNOSHENIU SOSEDEI NAKOPILOS CHTO BEZ OTVETA VAS OSTAVIT SEBJA NE UVAJAT.
@everythingisahead ESLIB JA BIL BI SHOVINISTOM JA BI NENAVIDEL VSEX I VSIU, NO ETO NE TAK, DA U MENJA JARKO VIRAJENNAJA RAZDRAJENIJA NA ARMJAN NO TAMU EST PRICHINI. ETO NE SHOVINIZM ESLI JA NAIDU REBENKA GALODNOGO NE SPROSHU ARMJANIN OH ILI KITAEC JA EGO NAKARMLIU. NO ARMJANINA, VIROSSHEGO V GRUZII, DISHASHEGO ETOT VOZDUX, SPJASHEGO POD ETO NEBO, JA NE PRASHU TJAVKANIA PRO DJAVAXETI ILI CHTOLIBO DRUGOE TAM. LUBOI NAMEK, I LUBUIU POPITKU PEREDELAT ILI PROVERNUT SVOI "VERSII"NADO RVAT PUBLICHNO.
@armenianingeorgia ZAXAJU JA NA MNOGIX SAITAX. V INTERESAX MOEGO STRANI I SEBJA. OTVECHAIU NA VSE INTERESUIUSHIE MENJA TAMATIKI. I MIJESH PROVERIT CHTO MOI KRUGOZOR NE TOLKO VAMI VAZGENAMI ZANJATA.
753 BC map-here you have put the map which never could exist in fact :))))) armenians never had control of lazi and megrel lands NEVER!!! please give me even one evidence that any armenian king had control on lazika and especially, that coastal territory,show me any stone or paper or or other historic real evidence of that. that time there were two strong georgian kingdoms diaokhi and colkhis (after called egris and iberia) there is no evidens of contact between egris and armenia at all.
@XOZOgeo Jesus... you have clearly not understood my video.
1. I did not make these maps.
2. There are no borders on these maps, and Colchis is always displayed, meaning they were not part of Armenia, so where are you getting this from?
3. Before you argue against a video, learn every second of it so that the author doesn't have to repeat uselessly. My evidence/reference is located in the information of the video, it's where I got the maps from.
@XOZOgeo I know "anyone can do that," and that's why I have clearly given the name of the authors and the source so you can view these images yourself. If you don't believe my source, that's your problem, but for your information, he is probably the most famous antique map collector in the world, and most of his collection involves antique maps of America. These maps are just extras in his collection.
@Arzive ITS NOT BAD TO ME TO HEAR ARMENIA HAS A GREAT HISTORY. GOOD FOR YOU :)) ITS REALLY GREAT IF ALL THINGS THERE ARE PROOVEN. BUT SOMETIMES I SEE IN THE ARMENIANS CHANNELS DIRECT PROPAGANDA AND LIES. TOO MANY TIMES I HAVE SEEN HATRED MINDED PEOPLE HERE WHO ARE SPEAKING REAL BULLSHIT ABOUT ALL NEIGHBOURS.. THING IS, GEORGIA HAS ITS OWN SELF STANDING ANCIENT NOT LESS TO ANYONE HYSTORY.AND OF COURCE DURING CENTURIES OF NEIGHBORHOOD WE USED TO RULE SAME REGIONS.IT IS REAL SHAME THE QSENOPHOBIE.
@XOZOgeo Languages prove Turks came from Central Asia, while Armenian is a mixture of Phrygian and Urartian. Genetics prove that most Turks are actually converted Greeks, while Armenians are the closest relatives of the Georgians. History proves that Armenians have always been in the region, while nomadic Turks destroyed what was known as civilization at the time (based on a quote from Victor Hugo).
@Arzive I AGRE WITH THOSE STATEMENTS WITOUT ANY CHECKING :)) I KNOW WELL WHO IS INDIGENOUS PEOPLE HERE AND WHO IS A NEWCOMER. I AM DISTURBED ONLY BY HATRED PEOPLE AND PROPAGANDA. FOR EXAMPLE, EVERIONE KNOWS WHO ARE THE HAMSHENI PEOPLE. ("ABKHZIAN ARMENIANS") ALL WE KNOW THAT THEY CAME THERE FROM TURKYE. THEY FOUGHT AGAINST THE GEORGIANS AND MADE UNFORGIVABLE WAR CRIMES THERE AND THESE PEOPLE ARE PROPAGANDING "NEW ARMENIJA" IN ABKHAZIA AND NOT A SINGLE VOICE AGAINST, ARMENIANS BLESS THEM.. WHY?
@XOZOgeo Relax. Please don't write in all caps, it's disturbing. If Armenians wanted to fight against Georgians, they would do so in Javakhk. Abkhazia was fought for by the Abkhazians, and Armenians, being the second largest minority of the region, fought alongside them. Abkhazians are not Georgians, and their land is not Georgia, but part of modern-day Georgia. Other than this, I am not aware of the events of the Abkhazia war. But blaming the enemy of "war crimes" is a common propaganda in war.
@XOZOgeo And just for the record, everyone knows that Hamshen Armenians are //not// Abkhaz Armenians, like you say they are. They are a different group of Armenians, originating in Hamamshen, an ancient Armenian city founded by Armenians while escaping the Seljuk/Mongol invasions. Its successor is the city of Hemshin/Hamshen in modern-day Turkey. They've got nothing to do with Abkhazia except for the fact that many Hamshen Armenians migrated there from Turkey in the 20th century.
@Arzive excuse me but if i say so i can assure too, you can find the evidence that armenians,who used to fight in abkhazia, call themselves hamsheni here on youtubee and you can find those vids under names like "future of armenia" "hamsheni" "new armenia" and like that names. other thing is you say if armenians wanted,they would start in djavaxeti.... this is provoking for discussion but, this will not bring any valuable result so it does not have any cost to "bubble" here.
@XOZOgeo Read my messages carefully, please. I'm saying that most Abkhazia Armenians, especially in Soxumi, are Hamsheni Armenians who migrated from Turkey in the 20th century. That does not mean that all Abkhazia Armenians are Hamsheni. I don't know about the ridiculous "new Armenia" in Abkhazia, and I disagree with it, so you don't have to argue with me about that.
@XOZOgeo Finally, I only answered your first message, in which you said "anyone can make homemade maps" and accused me of lying. It seems you deleted the message, I can't find it anymore. You speak of hating "hatred minded people" when you came here accusing me of lying, inventing maps, and talked to me in a negative tone without even knowing me, just because I'm Armenian. This video has nothing negative toward anyone, it simply shows maps. You're the one bringing negative racism with you.
To clarify, I first thought you were another Turk blatantly accusing me of things without checking. Instead, you turned out to be another Georgian blatantly accusing me of things without checking. For a Turk, I'd understand. For a Georgian, shame on you. Especially on a video like this, that proves Armenians and Georgians have been the closest lifelong brothers since the beginning of written history.
@Arzive 753BC-here you give the map showing you had controle over lazika,part of those days egris (kolkhis)kingdom.please prove your statement by any hystorical evidence,recognised internationally as non-false. what is your statement by that map based on? you said something about sources.tell me please about this source.or i will claim that this is lie. because there is no prooven evidence to me that armenians had control of black sea coats in this area at all.
@Arzive YEAP. CALL ME A BROTHER, THEN YOUR SONS WOULD COME TO ME AS REFUGEES,AFTERS 100 YEAR THEY SAY ITS THEIR LAND AND YOULL SAY YOU HAVE TO HELP THEM :))) THANK YOU "BRO" "FOR SHAME ON ME" THANK YOU TO CLAIM MY SONG AS YOUR BUT YOU CANT REPEAT BECAUSE DO NOT CNOW HOW TO :)))) THANK YOU FOR TAKING HISTORRICALLY GEORGIAN DOMINATED LANDS BY FORCE OF SOVIETICS. THANK YOU FOR ALL THAT. :)))) EVEN YOU ARE MOST CLOSEST NATION TO GEORGIANS, SAME TIME YOU ARE MOST PREDICTABLE BETRAYERS FOR US.
Pffft, wow. Through "Sovietics"? Oh, the irony...
When did I, or any other Armenian for that matter, say "shame on you"? Please, you came to this video, obviously looking for an argument.
When did we betray you? Really now, my God, have ultranationalists taken over Georgian media, or has the South Ossetian War made you so insanely paranoid?
@ArizonaFlame OPEN YOUR EYES AND YOULL SEE WHO WAS TRYING TO SHAME ME :))) I HAVE NOTHING TO BE ASHAMED. I DIDNOT DO ANYTHING WRONG. BUT IF YOU WANT, YOU CAN COME AND SEE MY CHENNEL. TO SEE WHAT YOU SHOULD BE ASHAMED ... I HAVE MANY PLAYLISTS OFDOCUMENTALLY PROVEN TRUTH, ALL KINDS OF PROPAGANDA AND ANSWERS TO THEM. THE DISCUSSIONS IS OVERE HERE I SAID EVERITHING CONSIDERED TO BE SAID. GOOD BYE. PLEASE DO NOT COMMENT ON MY NAME COMMENT JUST HERE ON THE VID.
@ArizonaFlame OKAY :))) SUPPOSE ALL ARMENIAN GARBADGE IS TRUE AND OTHER NEIGHBOUR NATIONS AR LIERS? EVEN THE GEORGIANS? LEARN SOME HISTORY AND CLEAR FOR YOURSELF WHO IS THE ABORIGEN NATION OF CAUCASUS.AS SIMPLE AS IT IS, ILL PROVE THAT ARMENIANS ARE SAME "NEWCOMERS" AS AZERIS-DIFERENCE IS ONLY FEW CENTURIES :) ALL THESE DARK SKINNED INDOEUROPEAN SPEAKING NATIONS INVADED THESE LANDS AND TAKE THE PLACE OF OLDER CIVILISATIONS.ONLY GEORGIANS REMAIN SURVIVED IN SOUTH CAUCASUS.EVIDENT ENOUGH!!!!
@ArizonaFlame i will answer (or not) when i want (or not) and you have no chanse to "keep me up" :)))) as about dark-skinned indoeuropeans, did i say anything about France or other indoeuropean speaking nations? i am speaking about your, Armenian ethnics and nature,which is NOT.indigenous in Caucasus at all, you claim ti be the descendants of urartians but in fact your ethnos was who ruined them and take their land,so turks gave you quiet good answer for that :)))
@ArizonaFlamedid i say anything about any genocide? not at all. but il explain to you who is nazi :) armenians are not less bastards and no better heroes to any nation. i wander why you have not any sense of shame for what you call Armenian genocide, you really think all those people were armenians? wtf man? what about those pontic greeks, meskhians and other iberian-georgian etnics ,kurds and who were not less but more by number than any armenian died? who is more nazi you or turks in fact?
Obvious the Turks butchered the Pontic Greeks and the Assyrians.
And the Kurds participated in butchering all of these Christian groups, it was only until what, the 80's that the Turks became brutal towards the Kurds.
Is that a rhetorical question?
Well, if a Holocaust-denier is called an anti-semite and/or a Nazi, let's say the Turks then.
@ArizonaFlame then explain to me please, why it is called only "Armenian" genocide? why not the greek and assyrian one btw? that is only reason why i do not support that statements. of cource all of those people were human beings and it was a big tragedy, but why all things are always deflected and used only for narrow interests? why?
@ArizonaFlame i can tell you last 200 years were most terrible for all these small nations of Transcaucasia, Russia and turkey have displaced and killed millions of Caucasians see them ubikhians died all,circassians died 1.5mln,meskhetians, armenians assyrians pontic greecs, abkhaz, absua, adig, nokhchi(chechen)lezgic people,even kurds and azeris have suffered,there were lots of people died, and you say there was only armenian genocide? why you never say about all caucasus and with caucasus?
why you would not speak about the reasons why turks decided to do those terrible acts/and how you can claim that the only wictims were armenians? ok suppose they were all armenian, what can you say about those hamsheni bastrads who have committed the same crimes in abkhazia ? how do you think only armenians life has the cost? then think again who is more nazi me or you.
@ArizonaFlame 1.genocide has good enough definition not to be used upon all you wish.
2.my country never would recognize it only as genocide of "poor and suffered armenia"only.was it genocide, or ethnic cleansing or other crime, it is up to us to decide.so i do not accept your desirable versions.and this is not a justifiing crime, but seeing the truth. it will be investigated and taken decision. turks have made crime, but not only to you and not exactly genocide may be.yours also have crimes.
@ArizonaFlame same way i can say it was "supposedly" Turkish lullaby for Armenia? huh? that's why i do not respect you boy,you can see only pain of Armenian ass and nothing else. i wish you never to forget that pain :)
@ArizonaFlame you know my stance about you and your nation. and most funny thing is you anyway think your bubbling here is going to change anything... but this is your right, but i would never try to prolong a speech to anyone who doesn't respect me at all and even is not going to change the mind. i am not 15 years old to do so.. i do not hate you Armenians but never respect. this is my right and i have enough reasons. so find your way boy.....
@ArizonaFlame tell me please how many languages you can speak and write fluently and clearly? you even do not know your own ethnic language at all as i guess.. so stop this accusations plz :))))) Georgians at least, can speak tree (and more )languages as usual.and even i make some not perfect paragraphs, they are clear enough to be understood. so come down on this subject too :))))
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Elmin162 2 weeks ago
Я В РОТ ЕБАЛ ВСЕМ АЗЕР ГАНДОНАМ АЗЕРА ЭТО НЕУДАЧНЫЙ АБОРТ
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qedim azerbaycan qedim manna dovleti qedim atropatena texribat hesab edilen bu xeriteleri ermeniler ele ozleri cekib nece ta qedimlerden ermeniler ele bu xeritenin yerlesdiyi olkeden beli yunanstannan kockun olunmus ermenilerdiki gelib bize sigindilar ve tarix boyunca torpaqlarimizi isgal etdiler bes eledise hani bu xeritedeki osmanli dovleti gorursuz bu xerite absurtdu. Acin tarix kitablarin oxuyun. sozu olan emailime yazsin bmirzeyev@bk.ru
Burhan2958 2 weeks ago
.... Փոքր Մհերը դեռ ողջ է՜....
Deaminos 3 weeks ago
Eto vsye loj tolko durak mojet poverit, nujno izucat istoriyu, Armeniya odna iz samix drevnix sran mira!!!
MegaAnushavan 3 weeks ago
@MegaAnushavan խնդիրն այլ է........ հավանաբար.... Խորենացու մասին է խոսքը.... սա կռիվ է ամբողջ Աշխարհի դեմ.... պետք է հարմար դիրքավորվել... միեւնույնն է.... քեզ քչերը ԿՑԱՆԿԱՆԱՆ հասկանալ.....իմացողը գիտի ... դա նրան բավական է հայերին ատելու համար..................... Մեր պատմության մեջ գաղտնիքներն ավելի շատ են...քան ամբողջ աշխարհում........կարծում եմ կռահեցիր.... որովհետեւ ամբողջ աշխարհն այլ բան չէ...քան հայոց գաղտնիքի մեջ ուռած փուչիկ..... սպասել է պետք...բոոոո՜ւմ...ու ամեն բան կկարգավորվի....
Deaminos 3 weeks ago
zaviduiteee molcha ARMENIII tupie azikiii
GEOCITIZE 1 month ago
какая нахуйй армения это вообще мидия вся,во пиздаболы...
Elmin162 1 month ago
@Elmin162 Это у тебя в голове все перевернуто, так как не различаешь Армению и Мидию.
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@bengereko666 ахахха соси
Elmin162 2 weeks ago
@Elmin162 сосать ю исключительно азербайджанский способ решения проблемы
bengereko666 2 weeks ago
privet armianski bratia iz gruzii udachi vam
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Чего раскричались азербабараны? Об истории они говорят! Ещё сам Гумилёв писал, что первые гос-ва предков азеров назывались "Ак кюнлу" и "Кара кюнлу", что в переводе значит "белые бараны" и "чёрные бараны". Только такой народ как азеры может с гордостью называть себя баранами. Вопрос к азерам: а вы из белых или чёрных баранов?
kalyan65n1 1 month ago
Armenia Power
TitanLion777 1 month ago
The video misses Achaemnid dynasty D: , C'mon give us some cred.
MrAfreeworld 1 month ago
Colchis
Iberians
are georgians..
shadowpero 1 month ago
i know that u r just thieves
SuperKaukaz 1 month ago
where did u find these fake maps. We are grandsons of Caucasian Albanian. U r ethnic persians. u must know. ur country was van lake areas. but caucasus belongs to us. and ur not caucasian albans. go and learn history. ur so dark and ugly like indians and iranians. but we r real caucasians!!!
SuperKaukaz 1 month ago
@SuperKaukaz Grandsons of Caucasian Albanians are Udis and Lezghis, not Azerbaijanians. Armenians aren't Persian that bullshit can be found only in your publications. Ancient Armenian included also lake Van and modern day Armenian Republic. Go and learn history but not made by Azerbaijanian scholars.
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@everythingisahead hahah another stupid dark non educated terrorist. i know history enough. u need to learn history. ur not caucasians. caucasus belongs to azerb. and georgia. north caucasus also. but r came here from middle asia. u know wheere is caucasisan albania s capital? Kabalaka (Qabala) where is there? in Azerbaijan. so u go learn ur history and don t argue with me. cuz u r wrong.
SuperKaukaz 1 month ago
@SuperKaukaz Wow, your stupid expressions about me speak themselves who is stupid and uneducated of us. Troya in Turkey so what? That doesn't make Turks Troyans.
everythingisahead 1 month ago
@everythingisahead so im not from turkey. first u learn ur faked history, then u go learn turkish history ok?
SuperKaukaz 1 month ago
@SuperKaukaz I just give you example if you don't get it. My history is not fake, but real and objective which can't be said about history taught in Azerbaijan which is bastardized and spreading hate,
everythingisahead 1 month ago
caucasian albanian was the name of azerbaijan republic. armenians were gipsies they came to caucasus from western and southern asia, u can see today in jordan, iran, iran, lebanon, afghanistan many ethnic armenian minorities. South Caucasus Belongs to Azerbaijan and Georgia
SuperKaukaz 1 month ago
@SuperKaukaz You are one of the dumbest men I have seen on youtube. Did you not watch the video? Armenia did not arrive from anywhere, we have been on that land since Noah!! Now you Azeris are saying that we are albanian and that we came from them lmaoo Great!! Still Armenia has been there way before your supposed Albanians came. Don't try to change what has always been true. That land is Armenian, That region is Armenian, Your country is even ours loll
GEVO111 1 month ago
@SuperKaukaz And the reason you see ethnic Armenians living in iran,Lebanon and other countries around that region is because they ran away from the 1915 genocide and so they were seeking shelter and a new life to live. So they stayed and became Armenians living in those countries and most adopted the way of life, but still they say we are Armenian and when the war broke out against Faggot Azeris they all came from around the world and fought for Armenia. Because they are Armenian
GEVO111 1 month ago
3:32 :)))))))))))))))))))))))
DefenceGeorgoa 2 months ago
fuck all of mother
fuck off armenia
elvinmilan 3 months ago
@elvinmilan What you cant accept reality? does the truth piss you off? See the truth is there was Armenia long long long long before there was turkey or azerbaijan. SO YOU FUCK OFF!
Vicious90x 2 months ago in playlist Favorite videos
fuck all of mother
elvinmilan 3 months ago
a turkish and azeri pray and ask god to destroy armenia, two days later a huge disaster at oil pump in azerbeycan and a big earthquake in turkey! the turkish and azeri say to god, oh god what we ask and what we get. god answer SORRY GUYZ IVE GOT ARMENIAS OLD MAP!
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since 3 century after "Great Amenia"... Azerbaijanis states... Albania... Sirvansah... Salarid state... Sadjid state... Great Atabegs (Eldeniz state)... Qara Qoyunlu... Aq Qoyunlu... Sefevi empire... Azerbaijanis khaganates...do you think about it...about your LUZER Armenian hISTORY...
Ziya6383 4 months ago
Great upload. Thanks for sharing!
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eyecareproject 4 months ago
Ինչ լավ երգ ա... ով գիտի անվանումը???
hovhannessargsian 6 months ago
apres axpers videoyi hamar
TheARTOjan 6 months ago
гандонов на карте нет они все в азербайджане
Arbibn 6 months ago 3
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TheARTOjan 6 months ago
а на карте где пидоразики? XDDDDDDDD
turqqunox83 6 months ago
Excellent video! Thank you!
titer2000 6 months ago
fuck your leier history
MegaRischi 6 months ago
@MegaRischi Your elegant and quite obviously strong English, provides all who read this, a glimpse of your class and intelligence. Thank you.
TonyMinassian 6 months ago
@TonyMinassian and fuck your english language..mother fucker armenia xuysstane
MegaRischi 6 months ago
ewyo armyanskaya fuflo )))) vam tolko smeyus.....
qafqazli91 7 months ago
where is azerxuyjan??? hahahahahahaaaaa
qunemmm zer mongol laver@ azeri gyoter!!
henrikh3 7 months ago
interesting that there's no so-called azerbayjan. on these maps.
excellent job!
xxxiamthebestxxx 8 months ago
@xxxiamthebestxxx YES THERE WASNT AZERBEIJAN IN THE WORLD AZERBEIJAN DIDINT EXIST UNTIL 1918.......
777axperutyun 7 months ago 12
@777axperutyun EXACTLY ! :)
xxxiamthebestxxx 7 months ago
smotrici .youtube.com/watch?v=Lu3X6nrsJHo&feature=player_embedded
slayd740 5 months ago
@slayd740 И что? Атропатена это Иранский Азербайджан, а азербайджанская республика не была частью Атропатены.
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fuck turkey fuck azeri fuck georgia .specialize in spreading misinformation and lies
RedBlueOrange3 9 months ago
song name?
Armyanski1 9 months ago
@Armyanski1 see @ 6:00
Arzive 8 months ago
Больше чем Римская Империя !!! А где Грузия ? Она точно была отдельным государством, нам об этом в школе рассказывали ! Вот поэтому армяшек нигде не любят !
vakhoarvel 9 months ago
@vakhoarvel A kto skazal chto Gruzia ne bil otdelnim, tam i kartax est', mojet xorosho ne posmotre a???
v 1:38, 1:56, 2:13, 3:16, 4:02, 4:16 itd ...
Esli ti gruzin, to obezatelno vstretil by, a esli azik, ti lutche provakaciu ne sdelay !
Armenin81 9 months ago
i am dumb i think armenia was puss back to usa sound like the same
hd150 9 months ago
wtf is this?? stopped watching after 395 ad )))
urka666 10 months ago
Liers
MrQuestansw 10 months ago
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Задолбали уже со своей великой историей!!
ары, прочтите настоящую историю до Туркменчайского договора, где было ваше племя до него? lol
вы цыгане, живете на чужой земле, и весь Интернет завалили содержимым
своего гавна, ойй простите истории >
Столько врете, что начинаете сами верить в свое величие. lol
MsVafa8 10 months ago
@MsVafa8 "Столько врете, что начинаете сами верить в свое величие". vse pravilno, no eto pro vas mister Chaban. uveren bolee glupix chem azeri ne nayti vo vsem svete. Nu vi i tupie!
Hayasala100 10 months ago
@MsVafa8 ты гандон ты вообще кто такой хуесос,это ты прочти свою истори,и кто у кого живет на каких землях кочевники ебаные,вы живете на армянсих землях,цыгани это как раз вы,ослаебы,как я вас призераю,как я вас не навижу,я вас буду ебать очень жестко,алтайская чюрка,арбузные магнаты блять
marat2311 10 months ago
@MsVafa8 Блядь хто бы говорил ... КОЧЕВНИК ИЗ АЛТАЯ БЛЯ! Тут только вы на чужой земле живете! ВАЛИТЕ ОБРАТНО В СВОЮ МОНГОЛИЮ БЛЯ ПИДРЫ ЧУЧМЕРСКОЙ НАЦИОНАЛЬНОСТИ
RS4815 8 months ago
@MsVafa8 ай чатлах азерский.....ты ПИЗДУН! эти карты не армяне составляли...кстати твоё племя азеров до 20 века называли не иначе как каквказские татары! Запмони это неуч.
ArachPortal 8 months ago 20
@ArachPortal
пиздаболл кто как не армяне придумают такое,всю истоиию перевернули
Elmin162 1 month ago
@MsVafa8 axchi poshel ti na xui mi videm kto cigan bliadina ti azeskaya vi sami prisumali sebe istoriu i sami ne nem verite griaznie spidavozi kasvkaskie tatari.. idite chitaite mirovioy istoriou anan sikim
RedBlueOrange3 8 months ago
@sevki79 , LMFAOOOOOOO. wow.. ok.. i understand your a child, but how old are you dude? from what you just said i sure your brain is the size of a fetus. xD hahaha.. wow.. stupid turk. wow.. lol hahahaha
CilicianElite 1 year ago
Long live Armenia !
FUCK TURGAY AND LOOSERGAYJAAAAAAAAAAN
starboygarik 1 year ago
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Wait armenia, your end close. wait us. Azerbaijan victoria coming soon.
Death to all Azerbaijan enemies!
Wait armenia, your end close. wait us. Azerbaijan victoria coming soon.
Death to all Azerbaijan enemies!
Wait armenia, your end close. wait us. Azerbaijan victoria coming soon.
Death to all Azerbaijan enemies!
Wait armenia, your end close. wait us. Azerbaijan victoria coming soon.
Death to all Azerbaijan enemies!
Wait armenia, your end close. wait us. Azerbaijan victoria coming
MrIslamov 1 year ago
hahaha pizdite da snova)))))))
Maka3077717 1 year ago
@sevki79 Նաև սովորիր հայերեն: ))
everythingisahead 1 year ago
@sevki79 Armenians have nothing with Romas. It is another fairy tale created by lier and politically biased Azerbaijani historians. First check up the origin of Azerbaijanis then write about Armenians.
everythingisahead 1 year ago
In modern Turkey where would an area called "Harut" be. Saw it mentioned in a letter but can't find it on a mapl
pelaalK 1 year ago
Armenia is a country.
Haha, insult fail.
You're attempting to implement pseudoscience (poorly) to prove insane theories that are more ideological than anything else. Marr claimed that Georgian was related to the Semitic languages and Basque (a language isolate).
Pfft.
This means that Marr utterly disregarded the radically different lexicons and grammatical structures. Georgian is no more related to the Semitic languages and Basque than Latin is related to Tagalog and Mandarin.
ArizonaFlame 1 year ago
@ArizonaFlame and we should believe what a great arizona fuckingflame said
lol man, you need evidences? ask about that the basques, not the Georgians and then ask the population of England do they recognize the Armenian claims about Brites or not. then youll see who is right :))) i am not speaking about "old " books i am speaking on common people and belief, what they believe. who are they and from where came... please stop replying to me. i am really bothered of you.
XOZOgeo 1 year ago
@XOZOgeo
Why are you bothered? Can't substantiate every single farcical 'fact' you've tried to spoon-feed me so far? I asked for names, and you give me the name of a Georgian linguist who was a complete joke.
ArizonaFlame 1 year ago
@XOZOgeo The claim about Ancient Britons doesn't come from Armenians. It's clearly written in the oldest history book of England, written in old English. Obviously, Armenians are proud of it, and thus, spread the information around. Georgians would, too, if it said "Georgia" instead of "Armenia."
Arzive 1 year ago
@XOZOgeo Just because you have a deep hate for Armenians, it doesn't mean that every claim that favors Armenians comes from Armenians.
And for the record, I don't think the idea that "Ancient Britons came from Armenia" really favors Armenians. It really doesn't change anything, because for all we know, it might just be a fairy tale told in ancient Britain.
You just don't like that idea because it gives more credit to Armenians than your convictions allow.
Arzive 1 year ago
@XOZOgeo dude right now i cant tell just by ur comments ur either azergayjan of turgay...u look like a retard saying all this stupid shit.. armenians never sotle land we alsways wanted peace since we became the first chrisitans in 301AD.. armenians are peacefull ppl.. its just that turkey in the past only wanted violence not just from armenians, but from greece as well..and azerbaijan is not even 100 years old.. what u were created by russia in 1918 if im not wrong.. LOL
45united 1 year ago
@45united i am not azeri- come and see the channel..... other answers are already here.so do not disturb please :P or be blocked...
XOZOgeo 1 year ago
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Armenia is a country.
Haha, insult fail.
You're attempting to implement pseudoscience (poorly) to prove insane theories that are more ideological than anything else. Marr said Georgian was related to the Semitic languages and Basque.
Pffft.
This means that Marr utterly disregarded the radically different lexicons and grammatical structures. Georgian is no more related to the Semitic languages and Basque than Latin is related to Malay.
ArizonaFlame 1 year ago
I don't quite understand how you can even tell if those maps are the same as Quin's. They're so poorly drawn and the land shapes are just so wrong and innaccurate.
Gunderson002 1 year ago
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ThaChosenChild 1 year ago
By claiming Marr as a legitimate source for me to research, you've completely delegitimized yourself.
ArizonaFlame 1 year ago
@ArizonaFlame allmost all armenian claims the sucked from finger but nothing makes you to stop bubbling about them :))))) so why i should worry what the worlds most fake historians do and say? we have own proven hystory a and not give a fuck what you claim here :)))) we just remind what you are in real :))) and whatever you'd say we are always here to uncover your lies. good bye. when you say anithing to our direction, youd allways be answered well enough. no mater believe you in this or not.
XOZOgeo 1 year ago
@XOZOgeo
First learn to speak proper English than maybe we can talk history you uneducated fool. You seem to be so mad at the Armenians. Why is that?
ThaChosenChild 1 year ago
@XOZOgeo
Wow, you see? I debunked Nicholas Marr as a legitimate source, and now you're using vulgar and profane language in rather mediocre English.
Vulgarity is the last resort of the weak-minded.
ArizonaFlame 1 year ago
@ArizonaFlame weak-mind :)))) i can tell you are really funny :))) vulgar? what can be the more vulgar that armenians behavior in Georgia? stop this shit and come i your "motherland" see at place whom you are so admiring. i told you already ten times. it is easy to type here how great you are :) but see it in real life and if you have some sense of humanity at least youl think on many things why georgians are so negativelly minded to you. dont bother me i told you boy
XOZOgeo 1 year ago
@XOZOgeo
Oh, more vulgar and profane language. Wow. Can't control your temper? Can't absolve your feelings in a calm and orderly manner? Tsk, tsk. Perhaps you lack confindence and self-esteem, much like religious zealots who can't prove the existence of their imaginary friend, and resort to vicious name-calling and defensive language.
ArizonaFlame 1 year ago
Ah, okay. Nicholas Marr, born in Tsarist Georgia to a Scottish father and Georgian mother, was notable for his pseudoscientific "Japhetic theory". What a joke. Georgian related to the Semitic languages? Any intelligent linguist would say otherwise.
ArizonaFlame 1 year ago
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One last thing: have you ever heard of the Behistun inscriptions?
ArizonaFlame 1 year ago
I mentioned that you should give names of the scientists you mentioned and the organizations they work for.
You should also give me websites and books to read.
This chain of comments is, to be frank, stupid. It's obviously going nowhere, and neither of us is going to convince one another of anything.
So give me information regarding everything you've claimed so far and I'll get back to you on what I've 'learned'.
ArizonaFlame 1 year ago
There are two other events called the 'Assyrian Genocide' and the 'Pontic Greek Genocide. Why didn't I mention them though they are important? There is no collective term for what the Ottoman Empire did to their Christian minority. The term 'Holocaust' on the other hand, is the collective term for the Nazi's crimes, which includes the genocide of the Jews, Roma, Poles, and the persecution of the Freemasons, Jehovah's Witnesses, and political opponents.
ArizonaFlame 1 year ago
But to be perfectly fair, every country in the world has chauvanists.
ArizonaFlame 1 year ago
shat law video er axperes
Ein sehr gutes Video !
Armenian Blood will never DIe !!!
Legolas556677 1 year ago
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YA GORD SHTO YA RODILSA ARMYANINOM!!!
OT ARMENII NIKOGDA ZAVISILA SUDBA MIRA ILI KAKIX LIBO REGIONOV!!NO OT ARMYAN MNOGOE ZAVISILO!!!
NAS MNOGO!MI MNOGOE UMEEM!SKOLKO BI NAS NE REZALI TURKI,SKOLKO BI NAM NERUSHILI CERKVA GRUZINI,MI VSE RAVNO OSTANEMSA ARMYANAMI! MI VELIKI NAROD!!
DA ZDRAVSTVUET ARMENIA!!!
a na gavkanie sobachek ne budu obrachat vnimania,oni na to shtobi gavkali:)))
armenianingeorgia 1 year ago
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YA GORD SHTO YA RODILSA ARMYANINOM!!!
OT ARMENII NIKOGDA ZAVISILA SUDBA MIRA ILI KAKIX LIBO REGIONOV!!NO OT ARMYAN MNOGOE ZAVISILO!!!
NAS MNOGO!MI MNOGOE UMEEM!SKOLKO BI NAS NE REZALI TURKI,SKOLKO BI NAM NERUSHILI CERKVA GRUZINI,MI VSE RAVNO OSTANEMSA ARMYANAMI! MI VELIKI NAROD!!
DA ZDRAVSTVUET ARMENIA!!!
armenianingeorgia 1 year ago
ARMYANE ne obrachaite vnimanie na ix gavkanie,,poshli vse na xui ,kto nas ne lubit!!!pust zaviduyut nam!!!mi ta nacia ,kotoroi zaviduyut!!! Mi doljni bit gordi tem,shto mi armyane!!!a ix komentarii doljni bit poxuiu. Mi mnogoe dobilis v mire nas lubyat i uvajaut!!a eti pust nazivaut sebya bratyami i zaviduyut:)))stavyat pamyatniki prezidentov drugdrugu,nazivaut ubiic svoix prodedov bratyami!!!A mi budem jit,jit vsegda,A KTO NAS NE LUBIT I ZAVIDUET,POSHLI VSE NA XUI!!!!
DA ZDRAVSTVUET ARMENIA
armenianingeorgia 1 year ago
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ARMYANE ne obrachaite vnimanie na ix gavkanie,,poshli vse na xui ,kto nas ne lubit!!!pust zaviduyut nam!!!mi ta nacia ,kotoroi zaviduyut!!! Mi doljni bit gordi tem,shto mi armyane!!!a ix komentarii doljni bit poxuiu. Mi mnogoe dobilis v mire nas lubyat i uvajaut!!a eti pust nazivaut sebya bratyami i zaviduyut:)))stavyat pamyatniki prezidentov drugdrugu,nazivaut ubiic svoix prodedov bratyami!!!A mi budem jit,jit vsegda,A KTO NAS NE LUBIT I ZAVIDUET,POSHLI VSE NA XUI!!!!
armenianingeorgia 1 year ago
kak jalko mne etogo gruzina:)))navernoe ot zavisti u nego pena izorta plechet:)))
pust pishet i raduetsa pridurok:)))
armenianingeorgia 1 year ago
@armenianingeorgia SHE YVERO IMDENI AZRI MAIC DAATANE RAS WER RO REALURAD JGERDES :)))) SAD GINAXIA KACHI KLAVIATURAZE WERDES PI PIRZE QAFEBI ADGEBODES. XO VAMBOB MAGARI KVERCXI XAR TQO :)
XOZOgeo 1 year ago
nu ti pravda svinya,brosit devushku radi togo shto ona drugoi nacionalnost:))i posle etogo imeesh prava shtoto govorit??nacist i fashist ti nastoyachi,s takimi kak ti v 41-45 godax stalin znal kak postupat.vsex ne perebyesh,ktoto vsetaki vijivaet:)))
a voobcheto bez vas ne interesno bilobo jit
armenianingeorgia 1 year ago
@armenianingeorgia DA JA ATKAZIVAIUS OT DETEI VAZGENOV DO TAVO KAK IX NARADIT I MNE ZA ETO NI CHUT NE STIDNO. A VOT VAM VSEGDA NUJNO POKAZAT I DOKAZIVAT MIRU KAKIE J VI AXRENITELNIE LUDI :ppppp :))) I VSO RAVNO VAM NIKTO NIKAGDA NE DOVERJAET IZ ZA VASHEGO PRODAJNOSTI.KANECHNO NE VSE LUDI V NACII MOGUT BIT ODNOGO RASKLADA I LUDI SREDI VAS TOJE BIVAIUT XAROSHIE I PREDANNIE, NO V CELOM VAS JA NE UVAJAIU I ETO SKTIVAT NE SOBIRAIUS.PRICHIN JA TE PERECHISLIL UJE MNOGO. TI PRO INTERES U NEE SPROSI :)
XOZOgeo 1 year ago
@armenianingeorgia NET JA NE OT DRUGOI NACIONALNOSTI ATKAZALSJA, A IMENNO OT ARMJANKI. I EST RAZNICA. TE BUDU MUTIT SVOIU KROV S VAMI. U VAS GENI NE TE I AUKNETSJA ETO. PONJAL? JA NEPROSTO NACMEN, A IMENNA VAS NEDOLUBLIVAIU. ZA VOT VSO ETO CHTO VI TVARITE V MESTO NORMALNOGO SOSUSHESTVOVANII. PODLUKI NA VAS NIKAGDA NELZJA PALOJITSJA ESLI VSIU JIZN NE ZNAESH. I DASTAT SLUCHI CHEGO NE MOJESH.
XOZOgeo 1 year ago
Destruction and Georgianization of Armenian Monasteries in Tbilisi (Capital of Georgia)
u can see this clip!!!GEORGIANS heores do it !!!
armenianingeorgia 1 year ago
@armenianingeorgia AVI TAKOGO NE DELAETE :))))) ETO U VAS FIRMENNOE--VINIT V SVOIX GREXAX CHUJIX :) VI TO S AZERAMI ETO TVARITE TO SGRUZINAMI.PONJATNOE DELO KROME BLIJNEGO NEKAVO OBIJAT.NO NEMNOGO VAM OSTALOS POVER. WASHA UCHEST UJE GATOVA. DAJE BEZ VOINI. ARMENII KAK TAKAVOI NE STANET,-ROJDAEMOST NIJE KRITICHESKOGO PAROGA U VAS DAVNO. I BUDETE POTOM BEGAT PO MIRU KAK VTORIE EVREI. I NIKTO VAS BLIZKO NE PODPUSTIT.
XOZOgeo 1 year ago
@armenianingeorgia MI EVREEV PRINJALI DO VASHEGO POJAVLENIA I JILI SNIMI V SOGLASII VEKAMI. TAK CHTO SMESHNO KAGDA NAS NACMENAMI NAZIVAETE. GOST, NEUVAJAIUSHII XOZJAINA DOMA ZASLUJIVAET PINKA V SRAKU I BUDET VAM ETO. DAJE PRI DEMOKRATII S KRAXMALNIM VARATNICHKOM. EBANEK POJIVI I SMOTRI.
XOZOgeo 1 year ago
why didnt you include king tigranes' empire in the map man?
ZeeGooner 1 year ago
@ZeeGooner Because these aren't maps that I made myself. They are antique maps. I couldn't find any maps before the 1500s. Tigran's empire happened before Jesus Christ (and it lasted less than a century)... I don't even think there's any map from that time that survived to this day... except those that were made in stone (like the Imago Mundi).
Arzive 1 year ago
@Arzive thought so
ZeeGooner 1 year ago
I AM CLOSING ANY CDISCUSSIONS ABOUT THIS VID, I ALREADY SAIOD WHAD I CONSIDERED TO BE SAID. AND DID NOT GET ANY NORMAL OR PROOVED ANSWER ON MY QUESTIONS. LET OTHERS TO COMPARE WHO'S RIGHT. I DONT GIVE A .... WHAT YOULL SAY NEXT. JUST PLEASE DO NOT DISTURB ME BY STUPID STATEMENTS.
XOZOgeo 1 year ago
@XOZOgeo
Please, "stupid statements"?
Pffft, there was never a question. Just rambling.
Your sentences are so poorly articulated that it's not even funny.
ArizonaFlame 1 year ago
@XOZOgeo I just wish you "closed" that Caps Lock as well. I told you not to type in all caps, it's disturbing, and really unprofessional. You don't look more convincing with all caps, you look more desperate, or threatened, or downright childish. I'm saying this for your own credibility.
Arzive 1 year ago
@XOZOgeo i ti zdes???tebe tak interesni armyanskie stranici?armyanskaya istoria??ti armenofom:))i znaesh pochemu??
ti bivshi armyanin ili ktoto iz armyan tebya obidel,kak gitler nenavidel evreev za obidi,tak i ti armyan:))
mejdu prochim XOZO po armyansji znachit svinya:))interesni nik ti sebe pridumal SVINYAgruzinskaya:)))
armenianingeorgia 1 year ago
@XOZOgeo esli ti zaxodish na armyanskie stranici,i tebe tak interesni oni
posmotri i eto,tebe budet priatno:)))
Hamshenis Armenians of Abkhazia
armenianingeorgia 1 year ago
@armenianingeorgia NOVOST DLJA TEBJA :))))) HAMSHENI TAKJE KAK I ADJARCI, MUSULMANE..... I CHTO TI GAVARIL GNIDA PRO NACIU? :))))))))) CHE ETO ZA NACIA U VAS TAKAJA OBREZANNAJA:)))))) VOT U ETIX HAMSHENOV I SOSI TEPER UROD :) A VAABSHETO NOVOST DLJA TEBJA. BAGRAMIANCEV SVANI V KODORIO KAK SVINEI ZAREZALI NA KUSKI--TAKAJA VOT U VAS NEBLAGODARNIX PRISHELCHEV UCHEST. DAJE NE SOMNEVAIUS CHTO TI SVOIX TAK NAZIVAEMIX DRUZEI PERVIMI SDASH ESLI DASTSJA I NA TO POIDET. REDKOSTNII TI GONDILA.
XOZOgeo 1 year ago
@XOZOgeo Баграмяновский батальон давно упразднен. Из хемшилов мусульманами являются только проживающие в Турции, их особенно много в Ризе. Но в в Абхазии и Росси хемшилы такие же последователи Армянской Апостольской Церкви, как и остальные армяне.
everythingisahead 1 year ago
@everythingisahead A TI CHE VISKOCHIL :))))) DUMAESH TOLKO TI CHITAT UMEESH? :)))) XOCHESH POZNAKOMLIU S XEMSHILAMI KTO JIVET VGRUZII I MOLITSJA ALLAHU? ZNAESH MNE UJE PO GORLU VASHE VISOKOMERIE NA PUSTOM MESTE. DA ESHO I NE TUDA SUETESE I ZA ETO VSEGDA POLUCHAETE. NELZJA NAM NA VAS NE NADEETSJA NE POLOJITSJA NE DOVERJAT. NAK NA FIG TAKIE VI KAMU NUJNI? VOT SMOTRI NA ETI KARTI. I NA VASHI FANTAZII, RAZVE NORMALNIE LUDI STOLKO VRALI BI? JA BI PONJAL ESLI TAM ODIN DVA RAZA, TUT VAS KALBASIT.
XOZOgeo 1 year ago
@XOZOgeo Ты че набрасываешься, я тебе нормальным тоном написал. Пусть молятся Аллаху, мне то что ? Никакого высокомерия в моем комментарии не было, а твои высказывания про армян не похожи на высказывания нормального здорового человека.
everythingisahead 1 year ago
@everythingisahead NEXERO MNE TVOI PODKLUCHENII JA VRODE NE SPRASHIVAL KTO TAKIE HAMSHENI. I POJASNENII NE PROSIL. A MOI VISKAZIVANII, TAKJE KAK I MOE OTNOSHENIE K ARMAJANSKOMU SHOVINIZMU I VAABSH, K OBSHNOSTI I SUSHNOSTI,VASHEMU IDEOLOGII, JASNA DO PREDELOV. JA NICHEGO NE SKRIVAIU. VAS JA NE NENAVIJU NO I NE UVAJAIU.I IMEIU NA ETO POLNOE PRAVO. KAK CHELOVEK CHELOVEKU MOGU OTNESTITS NAUDIVLENIE VAS OCHEN DAJE NORMALNO. NO VSE CHTO VI SEITE SDES JA KRITIKOVAL I OBSERAL, I BUDU DALSHE.
XOZOgeo 1 year ago
@XOZOgeo А твои высказывания не шовинистические ? Армяне и не нуждаются в твоем уважении. Их многие другие уважают.
everythingisahead 1 year ago
@everythingisahead UZNAI ZNACHENIA SLOVO SHOVINIZMA I PATOM VSMATRIS V ETI KARTI. ONI SLUJAT NICHEMU BOLEE CHEM SHOVINIZMU. JA NE PRO VSEX ARMAJ XRENOVOGO MNENIJA NO U VAS DAJE VOSPITANIE TAKOE CHTO POLUCHAETSJA VECHNI KONFLIKT. VAS UCHAT DREBEDENI KAKOITO. BUDTO CHTOTO, NA SAMOM DELE TO VSO INACHE, VOT VIDISH NE DUMAL TI CHTO ARMJANE BIVAIUT I MUSULMANE. SKAZALI TEBE PRO ETU KARTU I TEBE XOCHETSJA VERIT... NA SAMOM DELE TO VSO INACHE. NELZJA VISTUPAT I UTVERJDAT NEPROVERENNUIU CHUJ.
XOZOgeo 1 year ago
@everythingisahead JA OSKARBLJAJU TOLKO TEX KTO ETOGO OT MENJA ZASLUJIVAET. TI MOJESH NAITI NA YOUTUBE GDE JA OBSERAJU KAKUKUIU NIBUD CHISTO ARMANSKUIU CHERTU XARAKTERA ILI LICHNOST NOSJASHI ETOT XARAKTER, NE MOJET BIT CHTOB VSJA NACIA BILA PLAXOI, NO U VAS STOLKO NEGATIVA PO OTNOSHENIU SOSEDEI NAKOPILOS CHTO BEZ OTVETA VAS OSTAVIT SEBJA NE UVAJAT.
XOZOgeo 1 year ago
@everythingisahead ESLIB JA BIL BI SHOVINISTOM JA BI NENAVIDEL VSEX I VSIU, NO ETO NE TAK, DA U MENJA JARKO VIRAJENNAJA RAZDRAJENIJA NA ARMJAN NO TAMU EST PRICHINI. ETO NE SHOVINIZM ESLI JA NAIDU REBENKA GALODNOGO NE SPROSHU ARMJANIN OH ILI KITAEC JA EGO NAKARMLIU. NO ARMJANINA, VIROSSHEGO V GRUZII, DISHASHEGO ETOT VOZDUX, SPJASHEGO POD ETO NEBO, JA NE PRASHU TJAVKANIA PRO DJAVAXETI ILI CHTOLIBO DRUGOE TAM. LUBOI NAMEK, I LUBUIU POPITKU PEREDELAT ILI PROVERNUT SVOI "VERSII"NADO RVAT PUBLICHNO.
XOZOgeo 1 year ago
@armenianingeorgia ZAXAJU JA NA MNOGIX SAITAX. V INTERESAX MOEGO STRANI I SEBJA. OTVECHAIU NA VSE INTERESUIUSHIE MENJA TAMATIKI. I MIJESH PROVERIT CHTO MOI KRUGOZOR NE TOLKO VAMI VAZGENAMI ZANJATA.
XOZOgeo 1 year ago
753 BC map-here you have put the map which never could exist in fact :))))) armenians never had control of lazi and megrel lands NEVER!!! please give me even one evidence that any armenian king had control on lazika and especially, that coastal territory,show me any stone or paper or or other historic real evidence of that. that time there were two strong georgian kingdoms diaokhi and colkhis (after called egris and iberia) there is no evidens of contact between egris and armenia at all.
XOZOgeo 1 year ago
@XOZOgeo Jesus... you have clearly not understood my video.
1. I did not make these maps.
2. There are no borders on these maps, and Colchis is always displayed, meaning they were not part of Armenia, so where are you getting this from?
3. Before you argue against a video, learn every second of it so that the author doesn't have to repeat uselessly. My evidence/reference is located in the information of the video, it's where I got the maps from.
Arzive 1 year ago
let the languages, hystory and genetic sciencists tell the truth and do not mess by these home made bullshits.
XOZOgeo 1 year ago
@XOZOgeo I know "anyone can do that," and that's why I have clearly given the name of the authors and the source so you can view these images yourself. If you don't believe my source, that's your problem, but for your information, he is probably the most famous antique map collector in the world, and most of his collection involves antique maps of America. These maps are just extras in his collection.
Arzive 1 year ago
@Arzive ITS NOT BAD TO ME TO HEAR ARMENIA HAS A GREAT HISTORY. GOOD FOR YOU :)) ITS REALLY GREAT IF ALL THINGS THERE ARE PROOVEN. BUT SOMETIMES I SEE IN THE ARMENIANS CHANNELS DIRECT PROPAGANDA AND LIES. TOO MANY TIMES I HAVE SEEN HATRED MINDED PEOPLE HERE WHO ARE SPEAKING REAL BULLSHIT ABOUT ALL NEIGHBOURS.. THING IS, GEORGIA HAS ITS OWN SELF STANDING ANCIENT NOT LESS TO ANYONE HYSTORY.AND OF COURCE DURING CENTURIES OF NEIGHBORHOOD WE USED TO RULE SAME REGIONS.IT IS REAL SHAME THE QSENOPHOBIE.
XOZOgeo 1 year ago
@XOZOgeo Languages prove Turks came from Central Asia, while Armenian is a mixture of Phrygian and Urartian. Genetics prove that most Turks are actually converted Greeks, while Armenians are the closest relatives of the Georgians. History proves that Armenians have always been in the region, while nomadic Turks destroyed what was known as civilization at the time (based on a quote from Victor Hugo).
Arzive 1 year ago
@Arzive I AGRE WITH THOSE STATEMENTS WITOUT ANY CHECKING :)) I KNOW WELL WHO IS INDIGENOUS PEOPLE HERE AND WHO IS A NEWCOMER. I AM DISTURBED ONLY BY HATRED PEOPLE AND PROPAGANDA. FOR EXAMPLE, EVERIONE KNOWS WHO ARE THE HAMSHENI PEOPLE. ("ABKHZIAN ARMENIANS") ALL WE KNOW THAT THEY CAME THERE FROM TURKYE. THEY FOUGHT AGAINST THE GEORGIANS AND MADE UNFORGIVABLE WAR CRIMES THERE AND THESE PEOPLE ARE PROPAGANDING "NEW ARMENIJA" IN ABKHAZIA AND NOT A SINGLE VOICE AGAINST, ARMENIANS BLESS THEM.. WHY?
XOZOgeo 1 year ago
@XOZOgeo Relax. Please don't write in all caps, it's disturbing. If Armenians wanted to fight against Georgians, they would do so in Javakhk. Abkhazia was fought for by the Abkhazians, and Armenians, being the second largest minority of the region, fought alongside them. Abkhazians are not Georgians, and their land is not Georgia, but part of modern-day Georgia. Other than this, I am not aware of the events of the Abkhazia war. But blaming the enemy of "war crimes" is a common propaganda in war.
Arzive 1 year ago
@XOZOgeo And just for the record, everyone knows that Hamshen Armenians are //not// Abkhaz Armenians, like you say they are. They are a different group of Armenians, originating in Hamamshen, an ancient Armenian city founded by Armenians while escaping the Seljuk/Mongol invasions. Its successor is the city of Hemshin/Hamshen in modern-day Turkey. They've got nothing to do with Abkhazia except for the fact that many Hamshen Armenians migrated there from Turkey in the 20th century.
Arzive 1 year ago
@Arzive excuse me but if i say so i can assure too, you can find the evidence that armenians,who used to fight in abkhazia, call themselves hamsheni here on youtubee and you can find those vids under names like "future of armenia" "hamsheni" "new armenia" and like that names. other thing is you say if armenians wanted,they would start in djavaxeti.... this is provoking for discussion but, this will not bring any valuable result so it does not have any cost to "bubble" here.
XOZOgeo 1 year ago
@XOZOgeo Read my messages carefully, please. I'm saying that most Abkhazia Armenians, especially in Soxumi, are Hamsheni Armenians who migrated from Turkey in the 20th century. That does not mean that all Abkhazia Armenians are Hamsheni. I don't know about the ridiculous "new Armenia" in Abkhazia, and I disagree with it, so you don't have to argue with me about that.
Arzive 1 year ago
@XOZOgeo Finally, I only answered your first message, in which you said "anyone can make homemade maps" and accused me of lying. It seems you deleted the message, I can't find it anymore. You speak of hating "hatred minded people" when you came here accusing me of lying, inventing maps, and talked to me in a negative tone without even knowing me, just because I'm Armenian. This video has nothing negative toward anyone, it simply shows maps. You're the one bringing negative racism with you.
Arzive 1 year ago
To clarify, I first thought you were another Turk blatantly accusing me of things without checking. Instead, you turned out to be another Georgian blatantly accusing me of things without checking. For a Turk, I'd understand. For a Georgian, shame on you. Especially on a video like this, that proves Armenians and Georgians have been the closest lifelong brothers since the beginning of written history.
Arzive 1 year ago
@Arzive 753BC-here you give the map showing you had controle over lazika,part of those days egris (kolkhis)kingdom.please prove your statement by any hystorical evidence,recognised internationally as non-false. what is your statement by that map based on? you said something about sources.tell me please about this source.or i will claim that this is lie. because there is no prooven evidence to me that armenians had control of black sea coats in this area at all.
XOZOgeo 1 year ago
@Arzive YEAP. CALL ME A BROTHER, THEN YOUR SONS WOULD COME TO ME AS REFUGEES,AFTERS 100 YEAR THEY SAY ITS THEIR LAND AND YOULL SAY YOU HAVE TO HELP THEM :))) THANK YOU "BRO" "FOR SHAME ON ME" THANK YOU TO CLAIM MY SONG AS YOUR BUT YOU CANT REPEAT BECAUSE DO NOT CNOW HOW TO :)))) THANK YOU FOR TAKING HISTORRICALLY GEORGIAN DOMINATED LANDS BY FORCE OF SOVIETICS. THANK YOU FOR ALL THAT. :)))) EVEN YOU ARE MOST CLOSEST NATION TO GEORGIANS, SAME TIME YOU ARE MOST PREDICTABLE BETRAYERS FOR US.
XOZOgeo 1 year ago
@XOZOgeo
Pffft, wow. Through "Sovietics"? Oh, the irony...
When did I, or any other Armenian for that matter, say "shame on you"? Please, you came to this video, obviously looking for an argument.
When did we betray you? Really now, my God, have ultranationalists taken over Georgian media, or has the South Ossetian War made you so insanely paranoid?
ArizonaFlame 1 year ago
@ArizonaFlame OPEN YOUR EYES AND YOULL SEE WHO WAS TRYING TO SHAME ME :))) I HAVE NOTHING TO BE ASHAMED. I DIDNOT DO ANYTHING WRONG. BUT IF YOU WANT, YOU CAN COME AND SEE MY CHENNEL. TO SEE WHAT YOU SHOULD BE ASHAMED ... I HAVE MANY PLAYLISTS OFDOCUMENTALLY PROVEN TRUTH, ALL KINDS OF PROPAGANDA AND ANSWERS TO THEM. THE DISCUSSIONS IS OVERE HERE I SAID EVERITHING CONSIDERED TO BE SAID. GOOD BYE. PLEASE DO NOT COMMENT ON MY NAME COMMENT JUST HERE ON THE VID.
XOZOgeo 1 year ago
@XOZOgeo
Now you're ranting. I'm betting this documented truth of yours is pure garbage, produced by Georgians, eh?
ArizonaFlame 1 year ago
@ArizonaFlame OKAY :))) SUPPOSE ALL ARMENIAN GARBADGE IS TRUE AND OTHER NEIGHBOUR NATIONS AR LIERS? EVEN THE GEORGIANS? LEARN SOME HISTORY AND CLEAR FOR YOURSELF WHO IS THE ABORIGEN NATION OF CAUCASUS.AS SIMPLE AS IT IS, ILL PROVE THAT ARMENIANS ARE SAME "NEWCOMERS" AS AZERIS-DIFERENCE IS ONLY FEW CENTURIES :) ALL THESE DARK SKINNED INDOEUROPEAN SPEAKING NATIONS INVADED THESE LANDS AND TAKE THE PLACE OF OLDER CIVILISATIONS.ONLY GEORGIANS REMAIN SURVIVED IN SOUTH CAUCASUS.EVIDENT ENOUGH!!!!
XOZOgeo 1 year ago
@XOZOgeo
I like how you're throwing around all these ludicrous accusations with substantiating them.
I also like how you're making these connections to other ancient peoples, also without substantiation.
Also, did it really take you that long to answer me? Really? Pathetic.
Righting in caps lock means you've lost control, you're angry and frustrated. It's funny, so keep it up.
Pfft, dark-skinned Indo-Europeans. The French and the Lithuanians are Indo-European speakers as well.
ArizonaFlame 1 year ago
@ArizonaFlame i will answer (or not) when i want (or not) and you have no chanse to "keep me up" :)))) as about dark-skinned indoeuropeans, did i say anything about France or other indoeuropean speaking nations? i am speaking about your, Armenian ethnics and nature,which is NOT.indigenous in Caucasus at all, you claim ti be the descendants of urartians but in fact your ethnos was who ruined them and take their land,so turks gave you quiet good answer for that :)))
XOZOgeo 1 year ago
@XOZOgeo
Fact: he Urartians do indeed make up part of the Armenian ethnogenesis.
Wow, way to support Turkey's genocide. Nazi.
ArizonaFlame 1 year ago
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loooooooooooooool :)))) fact because you say so? :)))) you are funny sometimes :)
XOZOgeo 1 year ago
@ArizonaFlamedid i say anything about any genocide? not at all. but il explain to you who is nazi :) armenians are not less bastards and no better heroes to any nation. i wander why you have not any sense of shame for what you call Armenian genocide, you really think all those people were armenians? wtf man? what about those pontic greeks, meskhians and other iberian-georgian etnics ,kurds and who were not less but more by number than any armenian died? who is more nazi you or turks in fact?
XOZOgeo 1 year ago
@XOZOgeo
You implied the genocide.
Obvious the Turks butchered the Pontic Greeks and the Assyrians.
And the Kurds participated in butchering all of these Christian groups, it was only until what, the 80's that the Turks became brutal towards the Kurds.
Is that a rhetorical question?
Well, if a Holocaust-denier is called an anti-semite and/or a Nazi, let's say the Turks then.
ArizonaFlame 1 year ago
@ArizonaFlame then explain to me please, why it is called only "Armenian" genocide? why not the greek and assyrian one btw? that is only reason why i do not support that statements. of cource all of those people were human beings and it was a big tragedy, but why all things are always deflected and used only for narrow interests? why?
XOZOgeo 1 year ago
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ArizonaFlame 1 year ago
@ArizonaFlame i can tell you last 200 years were most terrible for all these small nations of Transcaucasia, Russia and turkey have displaced and killed millions of Caucasians see them ubikhians died all,circassians died 1.5mln,meskhetians, armenians assyrians pontic greecs, abkhaz, absua, adig, nokhchi(chechen)lezgic people,even kurds and azeris have suffered,there were lots of people died, and you say there was only armenian genocide? why you never say about all caucasus and with caucasus?
XOZOgeo 1 year ago
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ArizonaFlame 1 year ago
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@XOZOgeo
You're putting words in my mouth. I never said there was "only" the Armenian Genocide.
ArizonaFlame 1 year ago
why you would not speak about the reasons why turks decided to do those terrible acts/and how you can claim that the only wictims were armenians? ok suppose they were all armenian, what can you say about those hamsheni bastrads who have committed the same crimes in abkhazia ? how do you think only armenians life has the cost? then think again who is more nazi me or you.
XOZOgeo 1 year ago
@XOZOgeo
Hm, attempting to justify a genocide by bringing up alleged 'crimes' supposedly committed by Hamshens in Georgia? Okay.
ArizonaFlame 1 year ago
@ArizonaFlame 1.genocide has good enough definition not to be used upon all you wish.
2.my country never would recognize it only as genocide of "poor and suffered armenia"only.was it genocide, or ethnic cleansing or other crime, it is up to us to decide.so i do not accept your desirable versions.and this is not a justifiing crime, but seeing the truth. it will be investigated and taken decision. turks have made crime, but not only to you and not exactly genocide may be.yours also have crimes.
XOZOgeo 1 year ago
@XOZOgeo
Yes, there is a specific definition for 'genocide', and 'genocide' is what it was.
ArizonaFlame 1 year ago
@ArizonaFlame same way i can say it was "supposedly" Turkish lullaby for Armenia? huh? that's why i do not respect you boy,you can see only pain of Armenian ass and nothing else. i wish you never to forget that pain :)
XOZOgeo 1 year ago
@XOZOgeo
What? This sentence makes no sense at all.
ArizonaFlame 1 year ago
@ArizonaFlame you know my stance about you and your nation. and most funny thing is you anyway think your bubbling here is going to change anything... but this is your right, but i would never try to prolong a speech to anyone who doesn't respect me at all and even is not going to change the mind. i am not 15 years old to do so.. i do not hate you Armenians but never respect. this is my right and i have enough reasons. so find your way boy.....
XOZOgeo 1 year ago
@XOZOgeo
Bubbling? You're the one who's been replying with enormous, difficult-to-read, punctuation-lacking, syntax-raping paragraphs.
If you really wanted to debate, you'd send me a PM where we're not restricted by YouTube's word limit.
Oh I don't respect you...that's so much worse than you, one who doesn't respect a people. Tsk, tsk.
ArizonaFlame 1 year ago
@ArizonaFlame tell me please how many languages you can speak and write fluently and clearly? you even do not know your own ethnic language at all as i guess.. so stop this accusations plz :))))) Georgians at least, can speak tree (and more )languages as usual.and even i make some not perfect paragraphs, they are clear enough to be understood. so come down on this subject too :))))
XOZOgeo 1 year ago
@XOZOgeo
Two, actually. But you're obviously typing rapidly, and the mistakes you&#