Ako vec cujem to: ".......jaooo, 25, 24,22 itd....." = pa kao seljacina na livadi! Ali sad stvarno: 1. JAT ( ja sam bio putnik ) ostavlja OTVORENA pilotska vrata nakon skoro celog leta ( bilo je na let STR - BEG ) 2. "Nasi -najbolji- ( joooooj meni! ) piloti u svetu ( haha ) mogu sigurno dobro letiti - kad je lepo vreme. Pogledaj kad lete sa JATovi 30 godina stari avioni u oluju!!! Onda ti mrda guza, a to kako!
@mfe, cesar and smartic: To je razlog zasto je propala ova zemlja. Sta sanjate jos od stare Juge, sta pravite se vazni kao "fuck EU i NATO"? Sta se pravite vazni? Nasi piloti lete samo do Dubai ( pitam se tko je odneo one milione Evra, da nemaju LR avione??!! ). JAT je skup. Sletenje na BEG je skupo. Beogradski aerodrom je ostao negde oko 1979. god. Svaki mali regionalni aerodrom u Zapadu je bolji i moderniji!!!
@nenoandmirka ako je mekano plijescu, a i plijescu jer su sretno sletjeli, to je normalno. A kako kom pilotu, uskoro sam i sam pilot na jetlineru, znam masu pilota i nikome nije dosadno, nema vremena da bude dosadno, neznam jeste li upoznati sa SID/STAR procedurama, flight levelima, FMC programiranjem, NAT trakovima, ATC frazologijom, VOR DME prilazima, windshearom, crosswindom, TO power settingom, CG-om......... ?????
Imam prijatelja koji je zavrsio skolu za prof. pilota, sada je u USA na specijalizaciji, a kasnije ide u Spanjolsku, pa ce iduce godine da trazi posao u nekoj kompaniji kao linijski pilot. Zajedno smo isli u Winterthur na puloprof. simulator 737 NG.Decko je najbolji student, puno mi je toga objasnio. Nisam prije znao avion zaista moze da sam sleti, ili samo rucno, ili recimo to tako "kombinirano". Ili da se cak moze i prije polijetanja programirati. Ne uvijek. Npr, Innsbruck.
Ako je pista pokrivena slojem vode bolje je da avion tvrdje sleti da izbjegne aquaplaning. Putnici tada ne pljescu. Kada je ateriranje automatsko i mekano, misle da je zasluga pilota. Puno se pilota slaze da moderni zrakoplovi ne pruzaju pilotu zadovoljstvo pilotiranja. To su skoro droni. Pilot Marko kaze da mu je najdrazi 737 NG. Kompromis novih tehnologija i umjeca pilotiranja.
@nenoandmirka avion se prije polijetanja "programira" tako da mu se u FMC upisuje plan leta sa SID/STAR , flight level i brzina, climb sequence, cruise i descent sequenc, Vspeeds, tezina i gorivo itd. Ocigledno ne znate CATI, CATII i CATIII, pilot ce uvjek sam spustiti avion cak iako je na ILS-u tako sto ce na jednoj visini od zemlje iskljuciti autopilot i autothrottle i nastaviti rucno sletati, svakako da je pilotova zasluga za mekano slijetanje, osim ako se ne radi o autolandu koji se.......
@nenoandmirka ..... radi pri maloj vidljivosti. Super je to sto imate prijatelja pilota, imam ih i ja jedno 20 a i sam letim manje avione za sada ali sam puno u kokpitu vecih aviona tokom leta i znam skoro sve o tome, nemojte pricati ako niste dovoljno upuceni, dok u svoje ruke ne uzmete kontrole necete znati. Vi time ko da zelite reci da je moj buduci posao macji kasalj, e pa varate se ako tako mislite, avijacija je sirok pojam kao i putnicki avion, nije dovoljno samo cuti ponesto sa strane ;)
Steta sto se mozemo kontaktirati samo preko komentara koji su prekratki. Volio bih preci na "ti" zbog jednostavnijeg komuniciranja. Moze li? Moj je problem da sam cesto letio, kao putnik, ali nikad nisam uspio dokuciti sto se desava u kokpitu prije, za vrijeme i nakon ateriranja. Dosta sam toga dokucio, dosta i pobrkao. Sto si mi ti rekao, naknadno mi je potvrdio i moj prijatelj Marko, koji je, ponavljam, odlican ucenik jer sam vlastitim ocima vidio njegove ocjene.
@nenoandmirka Pa eto drago mi je da imate blizu sebe nekoga ko je ako ne jos, onda ubrzo profesionalac. Letenju sam posvecen od svoje petnaeste godine kad sam prvi put samostalno poletio jedrilicu, u tom sam trenutku znao da je to ono sto ce me obiljeziti u zivotu i cime se zelim baviti dokle god budem mogao i eto tako je i krenilo, 2005. godine prvi let u jedrilici, 2010. godine multi-engine dozvola i polazak po ATPL dozvolu najvjerojatnije u Milano
Ja sam tu doma u Milanu, ako te ovdje put nanese rado cu te ugostiti.
Prije par dana dostojanstveno su, u uniformama, defilirali ulicama Zuricha piloti "Swiss" trazeci krace radno vrijeme.Kompanija ima puno posla i obnovljenu flotu. Direkcija je obecala primiti novih 75 pilota. Prilika mozda i za mlade pilote, pogotovo ako su vrijedno ucili a ne nabiflali kvizove. Jer dobre kompanije "pucaju" na kvalitet.
@nenoandmirka pa situacija je zategnuta, kompanije u ovo doba traze pilote sa vec polozenim type ratingom za tip aviona posto im je skupo skolovati svakog pilota na tip aviona, pricao sam sa jednim kapetanom iz US Airwaysa, u njih je stanje bolje, popravljaju se, vec se otvaraju nova radna mjesta, Europska avijacija je jos u gustome ali budimo barem optimisticni. Hvala, ako me put dovede, a vjerojatno hoce, javit cu vam se svakako, i nemam trenutno vremena odgovarati na private, ali hocu poslje
Man, Yugoslavia would have been on of the top countries in europe, but greedy fascists and nationalist became greedy and tore it apart. I really loved flying JAT from JFK to Belgrade.
Do you see this over here? When you go on 30 landing and here. This on the left? Yes, there our friend Rane had chickens who carry eggs. Now no chicken carries eggs. hahahaha, Serbian pilots are the best!
I'm Serb, and even I find this ridiculous!!! You would never see anything like this on a North American flight!! Smoking, having a conversation during the approach and landing phase, and the classic "what's that noise? Landing gear down!" line. It's weird for me to watch this.
SO in 2003 one of these crashed hitting a building after take off, any videos on here about that? I got a e-mail the other day saying out of country relitives of mine died in that crash leaving over 6 million of unclaimed cash...now I get this e-mail....I wounder dammit,....
Think about it, as long as the cigarette doesn't start a fire (lol), this is a great working environment and shows how experienced and comfortable pilots of Jat are with their planes. The two pilots have a great chemistry between them and get along well, meaning they could work together to solve problems. Better for pilots to enjoy flying than to stress out over it and make mistakes. Nice landing too! GO JAT!
Think about it, as long as the cigarette doesn't start a fire (lol), this is a great working environment and shows how experienced and comfortable pilots of Jat are with their planes. The two pilots have a great chemistry between them and get along well, meaning they could work together to solve problems. Better for pilots to enjoy flying than to stress out over it and make mistakes. Nice landing too! GO JAT!
Think about it, as long as the cigarette doesn't start a fire (lol), this is a great working environment and shows how experienced and comfortable pilots of Jat are with their planes. The two pilots have a great chemistry between them and get along well, meaning they could work together to solve problems. Better for pilots to enjoy flying than to stress out over it and make mistakes. Nice landing too! GO JAT!
Napravi razliku izmedju vojnih i civilnih, to je ko da prelazzis sa kombija na porsche carrera.
Osobno vise volim komercijalne avione i stvar je koliko dobro pilot poznaje avion a ne jeli prije bio na nekim migovima ili G-2 ili pitaj boga vec cemu.
Osobno nikad nebih stavio vojnog pilota u komercijalni avion jer se to dokazalo vrlo neucinkovito. Uzmi u slucaj FEDEX, oni su imali vojne pilote koji su se medjusobno pobili u kokpitu
@A319CROATIA Izostavio si najbitniji faktor, a to je ISKUSTVO. Svaka ce kompanija radije da primi i obuci za odredjeni tip aviona vojnog pilota, koji zasigurno ima mnogo sati leta, a ne tamo nekog zelembaca koji je malo letio na "Cessni" pa se onda usavrsio na simulatoru. To i potkrepljuje tvoja usporedba kombija i Carrere. Neka firma koja npr. trazi rent-a-car sofera za kombi dati ce sigurno prednost oprobanom rally soferu, a ne nekom ko je tek izisao iz auto-skole.
@nenoandmirka VOJNI PILOT NIJE ZA AIRLINERA I TO JE JEDNOSTAVNO TAKO. I ne ide se odmah sa Cessne na Boeinga, tako nije nitko isao pa ubrzo ni ja tako necu. I na obukama se odleti 50 sati simulatora i oko 30 sati letenja i trebas imat odredjen broj naleta za ATPL frozen theory i onda se ide na type rating, tu se ne radi o nekoliko sati na Cessni.
@A319CROATIA To sto tvrdis su ti sigurno rekli u skoli u koju si se upisao. A da si pitao nepristrano nekoga za profesionalno usmjerenje, dobio bi drugaciji odgovor. Ono sto cini razliku jest iskustvo letenja, a ono se ne dobiva (dovoljno) u skoli. U svakom slucaju, zelim ti mnogo uspjeha i svako dobro! (osobno ne vjerujem da se treba plasiti konkurencije vojnih pilota: zanemariv broj njih ce napustiti siguran posao i "cvarke" na uniformi).
@nenoandmirka To sto tvrdim mi je rekao otac koji je kapetan u Lufthansi, ne bojim se ja njih, nego se bojim da me ne zapadne nacionalno opredjeljeni kompleksni kapetan koji ce mi psovat majku po nacionalnoj osnovi samo zato jer je bio na drugoj strani ko sto je bilo slucajeva sa nekima, hvala ti, tebi i tvojima takodjer nek je srecno :)))
ili si za fightera ili si za airlinera, tako je uvjek bilo i uvjek ce bit. Vojni pilot nije nimalo bolji od komercijalnog jer to jednostavno nije za usporedbu
Whatever one's loyalties to the airline, It is difficult to reasonably accept that smoking in the cockpit is as safe as not smoking in the cockpit. There are inherent and obvious risks such a a fire. Furthermore, while smoking, at least one hand is not available to engage the flight controls or other equipment critical to flying the airplane. You may talk all you like about having two pilots and redundancy, but you cannot convince an intelligent person that smoking is as safe as not smoking.
I wrote a more elaborate explanation but it got lost so I will tell you in short terms. Smoking is not what I was talking about but your ignorant comment about JAT pilots and JAT schools.
Well, the next time you want to use the "ignorant" label, maybe spend less time trying to be "elaborate" and spend more time figuring out how to save your comments. Anyway, I don't really have any response to a non-comment. Happy flying!
If you ever see two older guys with 4 stripes each piloting your flight like this one, relax... These guys know what they're doing. Two perfect landings in the video, thanks for sharing :)
Once, while boarding into the plane, I saw the captain smoking a cigarette. The cockpit was full of smoke but the flight was neither better nor worse than the others.
JAT nema B727 i DC9 od 2007 (tada su zvanicno otpisani), medjutim ne lete negde od 2004. ili 2005. godine, nisam siguran. Inace poslednji DC-10 (YU-AMB) je prodat i leteo je svoj poslednji let 24.6.2005. godine za Nimmes u Francuskoj.
Well, apart from the way those guys are operating, I'm astonished to see that the throttles seem to be on idle during the whole approach. I'd rather expected a different power setting, esp. considering the not so responsive engines on a 727.
Smoking in the cockpit...why not! He is the captain, he can do whatever he want to do! And i don't see that landing was bad. Hi just kissed a ground, just like that. A sad na Srpskom: Pusenje u kopitu...sto da ne! On je kapetan, moze mu se! A i ne vidim da je sletanje bilo lose. Poljubi covek zemlju samo tako. Svaka cast!
I would fly with this crew anytime anyday,even with all the conversation and distraction they still work efficiently and I have not seen any wrongdoing in that approach and that smooth landing.
Smoking in the cockpit?? Come on, give us a break,in fact we are the authority in the plane,so whatever we say that goes :))
They got rid of the remaining 727's a few years ago and now operate a 737-200 (to LHR, leased from Aviogenex), a few 737-300's and i think that they still have YU-AOS which is a leased 734. ATR's too.
Sto se tice letenja i slatanja, stvarno svaka cast. Pozdrav kolegama!
Sto se tice pusenja u kabini, da nije snimljeno na videu, niko sem pilota i kopilota nebi znao. Jedinu primedbu koju mogu da dam, je tip u beloj majci u pozadini, sa muslimanskim znameljem (Turskom zastavom) na levoj ruci.
tako je bre majstori to su nasi piloti ovi strnaci mogu da kenjaju o sigurnosti ali jedno je sigurno jat-ovi piloti imaju najnezinija sletanja ubedljivo bilo visual ili ils il neki damo loc dme prilaz svaka cast momci.sto se cigare tice pa ko ce jos da izdrzi toliko vremena bez cigare zato je on i stigao pre vremena :)))
The pilot on left seat was smoking! Completely forbidden...bad example.
The pilot's glasses should be placed in a better place...shouldn't place their for a while...Bad example...here again.
We are watching a wrong human factor attitude.The crew is too sure of itself.
A silence allowing concentration would have been preferable in order to face any events during these "critical phases"...the workload being to increase rapidly in emergency case.
well, the last major incident was in the 70's when a bomb was placed on the plane, ever since there has been nothing. Even during the worst period during the sanctions. So i am sorry but i would rather have them work in an enviroment thats good for them, and apparently this one is.
And i can see that you are from France, well i think your flag carrier has a very nice safety record, so i think the french are not viable to give safety tips to anyone...!
Majstori. Ko moze njima da zabrani da puse u cabini??? Kao kad bi meni neko rekao, ej mojne da pricas na mobilnom dok vozis ili nemoj da jedes i da vozis.
JAT has an excellent safety record the last time we lost an airframe was when when a bomb exploded on board. I feel safe with this airline every time, the 727 even came with ashtrays for pilots when it was built.
Calm down mon petit enfants. Why does everything have to get so damned hostile? The actions of the flight crew, regardless of nationality was much less than professional, and bordering on sloppy and dangerous. When you heard the audio "glidescope, glidescope", that should have been a clue, but we will not get into technicalities. As a retired Delta Airlines driver, I would not have wanted any of those people in my front office!
The actions of the flightcrew were very professional and above average... Safety was not endangered at any time of the flight. They are just relaxed and maybe you got a wrong impression of a whole situatuion Sir. I can assure you that Jat Aireways's crews are among the best in the world. And if you are a pilot, you can analyse their actions, procedures and descitions and be very convinced that everything was more than fine!
berlinbunker1 your dumb, they are on visual approach, they were cleared at an altitude lower than the ILS glideslope which is why you hear that warning. look at the PAPI
What country! Your country was torn apart and I know dozens of refugees with horror stories of rape, abuse, and murder. But no one is talking about "history"; we're talking about technology and advancement. Again, you have no answer for why your pilot is flying with a cigarette but without his glasses. You have no answer as to why your country is flying AMERICAN planes, not Yugo planes. You have no answer as to why pilots from all over the world come here to train and fly OUR simulators.
You are right - What country!? You were bombing us few years ago!!! Why? I will tell you why! Because you are fucking terrorists!!!
By the way, i dont give a fuck about your planes, they are not only ones, there is Airbus too. And say thanks to Nikola Tesla ( who was serbian) for electricity, you moron!!!
p.s. Wherever in the world your country takes a part there is war (against terrorism - what a joke)! Iran will fuck you all!!!
We bomed you because you clowns were tearing the country apart with all your ethnic cleansing. Don't blame us; blame Slobodan, bitch! And where do all of your raggedy refugees come? USA. But you know what? None of this is relevant to extremely dangerous conduct of the flight crew in this video. There is no possible debate on this issue. I nothing else on this subject unless you can present some kind of argument as to why these pilots' conduct should be considered "safe."
You are right - What country!? You were bombing us few years ago!!! Why? I will tell you why! Because you are fucking terrorists!!!
By the way, i dont give a fuck about your planes, they are not only ones, there is Airbus too. And say thanks to Nikola Tesla ( who was serbian) for electricity, you moron!!!
p.s. Wherever in the world your country takes a part there is war (against terrorism - what a joke)! Iran will fuck you all!!!
Form iraq, there are same stories about you "brave" soldiers doing same things.
Oh and about your country technology and advancement... Your technology is based on NAZI / foreign discoveries, you havent done almost nothing by yourselves, you are just stealing innovations from scientists around the world. So go and bullshit about your technology to someone else.
Apparently you are an idiot, too. The point of the thread was that these Yugo pilots have no regard for basic safety procedures and practices. As for the NAZI allegation, you need to present some proof before I swallow that one. And if it's all "stealing" from other people, then why aren't more countries just as advanced? Do you even read what you right? Your comments are absurd. And I wasn't even in dialogue with you; so if you don't like it, stick it up your ass.
Retarded? Your whole rocket science stands on scientists, captured / surrendered in nazi germany. Check out Wernher von Braun. And you should know about immigration of people to USA, at least i do, and you apparently dont and you live there not me. And that immigration has brought techonology to you. Sadly enough huh?
And about safety procedure... Whatever you are practicing in your country is not neccessary correct in other, we dont have guns/civil agents on our planes, not that paranoid.
I am aware of all the contributions of European scientists, particularly Jewish ones; however, we did not "steal" anything, as you foolishly claimed. And there is a reason that these scientists came to the USA and NOT Serbia. And it's much better to be paranoid on an airplane than cavalier and foolhardy. I have shot down all of your pathetic arguments and you have nothing to offer in this debate. You would do well to refrain from commenting any further.
Well i did counter any of your arguments and i still can. You cant change the history :)
Yes, they saw a promise land in USA, but it was faaaaar from that. And still is, and this " we are supreme country" pisses me off more than anything else. Becuase you simple arent. Almost everything in your culture is taken from other cultures, you are just a mix of lots of nations. I addmit, stealing wasnt right word, but still, most of your concepts isnt american in fact.
Mislim,da gledam KO TO TAMU PJEVA
igija 3 weeks ago 2
4:51 Smoke???
SkyDaumantas 2 months ago
Was it YU-AKF? What was the registration?
GoldLeader272 2 months ago
Samo još pevačica Brena fali....da mu sedne u krilo.
Ajde Miško vozi 100 metara u rikverc..;)
AlesLjubljana 3 months ago
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GoldLeader272 3 months ago
great video man..
sid77777 3 months ago
"Vidis ovo levo, ovde je nas ... nekad drzao, on je imao kokoske..." xD Samo u Srbiji :D
JohnnyBoy501 6 months ago
"Krenemo kasnije, stignemo ranije"
727 - cruising speed .81 mach, max .90
737 - cruising speed .78 mach, max .82
BorisKnoT 7 months ago
Koji carevi, legendarni avion!
MishaNedeljkovitch 9 months ago
Koji carevi!
MishaNedeljkovitch 9 months ago
jel ovo stvarno 727 ili 737, posto nes kazu za 737.. mozda si slucajno stavio 2 ,,,...??? i 727 nije leteo odavnoooo u BGDu
SRPSKAchetniK 9 months ago
@SRPSKAchetniK 727. Vidis da ima 3 motora :) 727 je leteo sve do neke 2002 ili cak i kasnije. Ne secam se vise. A ovo je snimamno posle 1999 :)
SavaMarkovicPilot 7 months ago
EU and NATO fuck you mfe2030. Cheers......
mayayaad 10 months ago
Ako vec cujem to: ".......jaooo, 25, 24,22 itd....." = pa kao seljacina na livadi! Ali sad stvarno: 1. JAT ( ja sam bio putnik ) ostavlja OTVORENA pilotska vrata nakon skoro celog leta ( bilo je na let STR - BEG ) 2. "Nasi -najbolji- ( joooooj meni! ) piloti u svetu ( haha ) mogu sigurno dobro letiti - kad je lepo vreme. Pogledaj kad lete sa JATovi 30 godina stari avioni u oluju!!! Onda ti mrda guza, a to kako!
crnoglav1 11 months ago
@mfe, cesar and smartic: To je razlog zasto je propala ova zemlja. Sta sanjate jos od stare Juge, sta pravite se vazni kao "fuck EU i NATO"? Sta se pravite vazni? Nasi piloti lete samo do Dubai ( pitam se tko je odneo one milione Evra, da nemaju LR avione??!! ). JAT je skup. Sletenje na BEG je skupo. Beogradski aerodrom je ostao negde oko 1979. god. Svaki mali regionalni aerodrom u Zapadu je bolji i moderniji!!!
crnoglav1 11 months ago 2
Imamo najbolje pilote na svetu!!! Uvek se sigurno osecam kada letim sa JAT-om !!! Pozdrav za sve njih!!
Ova dvojica su fenomenalni!!!!
MrSmartic 1 year ago
Serbs are the best in everything!!!! remember that!!!
CELEBICI3 1 year ago
samo to srbi mogu brateeeee tooooooo.....
CELEBICI3 1 year ago
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milosbgd21 1 year ago
To moze samo Jat-ova posada i 727....legende
milosbgd21 1 year ago
Najgluplje je kad putnici pljescu pilotima na dobrom sletanju.
Sta oni znaju o tehnici letenja.
Moderni zrakoplovi su prava grobnica ljepote letenja i najgora dosada dobrih avijaticara. Steta. Niti avioni nisu ono sto su nekad bili...
nenoandmirka 1 year ago
@nenoandmirka ako je mekano plijescu, a i plijescu jer su sretno sletjeli, to je normalno. A kako kom pilotu, uskoro sam i sam pilot na jetlineru, znam masu pilota i nikome nije dosadno, nema vremena da bude dosadno, neznam jeste li upoznati sa SID/STAR procedurama, flight levelima, FMC programiranjem, NAT trakovima, ATC frazologijom, VOR DME prilazima, windshearom, crosswindom, TO power settingom, CG-om......... ?????
A319CROATIA 1 year ago
@A319CROATIA
Imam prijatelja koji je zavrsio skolu za prof. pilota, sada je u USA na specijalizaciji, a kasnije ide u Spanjolsku, pa ce iduce godine da trazi posao u nekoj kompaniji kao linijski pilot. Zajedno smo isli u Winterthur na puloprof. simulator 737 NG.Decko je najbolji student, puno mi je toga objasnio. Nisam prije znao avion zaista moze da sam sleti, ili samo rucno, ili recimo to tako "kombinirano". Ili da se cak moze i prije polijetanja programirati. Ne uvijek. Npr, Innsbruck.
nenoandmirka 1 year ago
@A319CROATIA
Ako je pista pokrivena slojem vode bolje je da avion tvrdje sleti da izbjegne aquaplaning. Putnici tada ne pljescu. Kada je ateriranje automatsko i mekano, misle da je zasluga pilota. Puno se pilota slaze da moderni zrakoplovi ne pruzaju pilotu zadovoljstvo pilotiranja. To su skoro droni. Pilot Marko kaze da mu je najdrazi 737 NG. Kompromis novih tehnologija i umjeca pilotiranja.
nenoandmirka 1 year ago
@nenoandmirka avion se prije polijetanja "programira" tako da mu se u FMC upisuje plan leta sa SID/STAR , flight level i brzina, climb sequence, cruise i descent sequenc, Vspeeds, tezina i gorivo itd. Ocigledno ne znate CATI, CATII i CATIII, pilot ce uvjek sam spustiti avion cak iako je na ILS-u tako sto ce na jednoj visini od zemlje iskljuciti autopilot i autothrottle i nastaviti rucno sletati, svakako da je pilotova zasluga za mekano slijetanje, osim ako se ne radi o autolandu koji se.......
A319CROATIA 1 year ago
@A319CROATIA
Dobro, hvala, informirat cu se kod kompetentnih osoba, jer nista ne uzimam zdravo za gotovo.
nenoandmirka 1 year ago
@nenoandmirka ..... radi pri maloj vidljivosti. Super je to sto imate prijatelja pilota, imam ih i ja jedno 20 a i sam letim manje avione za sada ali sam puno u kokpitu vecih aviona tokom leta i znam skoro sve o tome, nemojte pricati ako niste dovoljno upuceni, dok u svoje ruke ne uzmete kontrole necete znati. Vi time ko da zelite reci da je moj buduci posao macji kasalj, e pa varate se ako tako mislite, avijacija je sirok pojam kao i putnicki avion, nije dovoljno samo cuti ponesto sa strane ;)
A319CROATIA 1 year ago
@A319CROATIA
Steta sto se mozemo kontaktirati samo preko komentara koji su prekratki. Volio bih preci na "ti" zbog jednostavnijeg komuniciranja. Moze li? Moj je problem da sam cesto letio, kao putnik, ali nikad nisam uspio dokuciti sto se desava u kokpitu prije, za vrijeme i nakon ateriranja. Dosta sam toga dokucio, dosta i pobrkao. Sto si mi ti rekao, naknadno mi je potvrdio i moj prijatelj Marko, koji je, ponavljam, odlican ucenik jer sam vlastitim ocima vidio njegove ocjene.
nenoandmirka 1 year ago
@nenoandmirka Pa eto drago mi je da imate blizu sebe nekoga ko je ako ne jos, onda ubrzo profesionalac. Letenju sam posvecen od svoje petnaeste godine kad sam prvi put samostalno poletio jedrilicu, u tom sam trenutku znao da je to ono sto ce me obiljeziti u zivotu i cime se zelim baviti dokle god budem mogao i eto tako je i krenilo, 2005. godine prvi let u jedrilici, 2010. godine multi-engine dozvola i polazak po ATPL dozvolu najvjerojatnije u Milano
A319CROATIA 1 year ago
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nenoandmirka 1 year ago
@A319CROATIA
Ja sam tu doma u Milanu, ako te ovdje put nanese rado cu te ugostiti.
Prije par dana dostojanstveno su, u uniformama, defilirali ulicama Zuricha piloti "Swiss" trazeci krace radno vrijeme.Kompanija ima puno posla i obnovljenu flotu. Direkcija je obecala primiti novih 75 pilota. Prilika mozda i za mlade pilote, pogotovo ako su vrijedno ucili a ne nabiflali kvizove. Jer dobre kompanije "pucaju" na kvalitet.
nenoandmirka 1 year ago
@nenoandmirka pa situacija je zategnuta, kompanije u ovo doba traze pilote sa vec polozenim type ratingom za tip aviona posto im je skupo skolovati svakog pilota na tip aviona, pricao sam sa jednim kapetanom iz US Airwaysa, u njih je stanje bolje, popravljaju se, vec se otvaraju nova radna mjesta, Europska avijacija je jos u gustome ali budimo barem optimisticni. Hvala, ako me put dovede, a vjerojatno hoce, javit cu vam se svakako, i nemam trenutno vremena odgovarati na private, ali hocu poslje
A319CROATIA 1 year ago
he needs to smoke for concentration :P
mystiqueman366 1 year ago
i used to take this plane to yugoslavia when i was a kid....
jlp58mjp 1 year ago
Man, Yugoslavia would have been on of the top countries in europe, but greedy fascists and nationalist became greedy and tore it apart. I really loved flying JAT from JFK to Belgrade.
cesar333 1 year ago 22
@cesar333Comunist Yugoslavia had fascist at it start..Croats and bosnian muslims wre Hitler servants and supporter
NutGobblingCroats 6 months ago
My fave jet, coolest cockpit, I want one!!!
skydogz1 1 year ago
hahaha ''hoces da ga sletimo na autuput ?'' hahaha carevi !
omilosavljevic 1 year ago
Do you see this over here? When you go on 30 landing and here. This on the left? Yes, there our friend Rane had chickens who carry eggs. Now no chicken carries eggs. hahahaha, Serbian pilots are the best!
SlobusNS 1 year ago
I'm Serb, and even I find this ridiculous!!! You would never see anything like this on a North American flight!! Smoking, having a conversation during the approach and landing phase, and the classic "what's that noise? Landing gear down!" line. It's weird for me to watch this.
tasev1 1 year ago
hahahaha
taking of late, arriving earlier ... 737 can not make it even if it would like to
petar84 1 year ago 3
wow very smooth landing not too much flare greAT ENDING .lol
yblocker 1 year ago 2
SO in 2003 one of these crashed hitting a building after take off, any videos on here about that? I got a e-mail the other day saying out of country relitives of mine died in that crash leaving over 6 million of unclaimed cash...now I get this e-mail....I wounder dammit,....
Decoded69 1 year ago
@Decoded69
what a jat airways plane crashed??? You got incorrect info!! Never occoured maybe a 727 somewhere in the world but not this one
LionsPrideSyd 1 year ago
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Think about it, as long as the cigarette doesn't start a fire (lol), this is a great working environment and shows how experienced and comfortable pilots of Jat are with their planes. The two pilots have a great chemistry between them and get along well, meaning they could work together to solve problems. Better for pilots to enjoy flying than to stress out over it and make mistakes. Nice landing too! GO JAT!
comicalstuffnn 1 year ago
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Think about it, as long as the cigarette doesn't start a fire (lol), this is a great working environment and shows how experienced and comfortable pilots of Jat are with their planes. The two pilots have a great chemistry between them and get along well, meaning they could work together to solve problems. Better for pilots to enjoy flying than to stress out over it and make mistakes. Nice landing too! GO JAT!
comicalstuffnn 1 year ago
Think about it, as long as the cigarette doesn't start a fire (lol), this is a great working environment and shows how experienced and comfortable pilots of Jat are with their planes. The two pilots have a great chemistry between them and get along well, meaning they could work together to solve problems. Better for pilots to enjoy flying than to stress out over it and make mistakes. Nice landing too! GO JAT!
comicalstuffnn 1 year ago
nice landing though
Waddeck43 1 year ago 2
classick american jetliner + serbian pilots = Epicness
leonelp51 1 year ago 2
00:55 - Торањ је поново у радијалу. The Tower is back. Fuck EU and NATO!
mfe2030 1 year ago 14
Great video.
Nice landing!
twal1011 1 year ago
as long as they landed it safely, there's nothing to complain about. ha
stubzforlife 1 year ago
that is PILOT !
65165115 1 year ago
Is the captain having a smoke ?? haha+
Inboundbogie 1 year ago
Ovo je pravi avion a ne one jebeni Airbus,,
SavaMarkovicPilot 1 year ago
@ymc1122 LYBE
SavaMarkovicPilot 1 year ago
SVAKA CAST!
TheBeogradSrbija 1 year ago
hoces da ga sletim na auto-put?!
hahaahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahhahah.....slusam gledam i ne verujem!!!
SWEENY023 1 year ago
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nenoandmirka 1 year ago
Napravi razliku izmedju vojnih i civilnih, to je ko da prelazzis sa kombija na porsche carrera.
Osobno vise volim komercijalne avione i stvar je koliko dobro pilot poznaje avion a ne jeli prije bio na nekim migovima ili G-2 ili pitaj boga vec cemu.
Osobno nikad nebih stavio vojnog pilota u komercijalni avion jer se to dokazalo vrlo neucinkovito. Uzmi u slucaj FEDEX, oni su imali vojne pilote koji su se medjusobno pobili u kokpitu
A319CROATIA 1 year ago
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nenoandmirka 1 year ago
@A319CROATIA Izostavio si najbitniji faktor, a to je ISKUSTVO. Svaka ce kompanija radije da primi i obuci za odredjeni tip aviona vojnog pilota, koji zasigurno ima mnogo sati leta, a ne tamo nekog zelembaca koji je malo letio na "Cessni" pa se onda usavrsio na simulatoru. To i potkrepljuje tvoja usporedba kombija i Carrere. Neka firma koja npr. trazi rent-a-car sofera za kombi dati ce sigurno prednost oprobanom rally soferu, a ne nekom ko je tek izisao iz auto-skole.
nenoandmirka 1 year ago
@nenoandmirka VOJNI PILOT NIJE ZA AIRLINERA I TO JE JEDNOSTAVNO TAKO. I ne ide se odmah sa Cessne na Boeinga, tako nije nitko isao pa ubrzo ni ja tako necu. I na obukama se odleti 50 sati simulatora i oko 30 sati letenja i trebas imat odredjen broj naleta za ATPL frozen theory i onda se ide na type rating, tu se ne radi o nekoliko sati na Cessni.
A319CROATIA 1 year ago
@A319CROATIA To sto tvrdis su ti sigurno rekli u skoli u koju si se upisao. A da si pitao nepristrano nekoga za profesionalno usmjerenje, dobio bi drugaciji odgovor. Ono sto cini razliku jest iskustvo letenja, a ono se ne dobiva (dovoljno) u skoli. U svakom slucaju, zelim ti mnogo uspjeha i svako dobro! (osobno ne vjerujem da se treba plasiti konkurencije vojnih pilota: zanemariv broj njih ce napustiti siguran posao i "cvarke" na uniformi).
nenoandmirka 1 year ago
@nenoandmirka To sto tvrdim mi je rekao otac koji je kapetan u Lufthansi, ne bojim se ja njih, nego se bojim da me ne zapadne nacionalno opredjeljeni kompleksni kapetan koji ce mi psovat majku po nacionalnoj osnovi samo zato jer je bio na drugoj strani ko sto je bilo slucajeva sa nekima, hvala ti, tebi i tvojima takodjer nek je srecno :)))
A319CROATIA 1 year ago
ili si za fightera ili si za airlinera, tako je uvjek bilo i uvjek ce bit. Vojni pilot nije nimalo bolji od komercijalnog jer to jednostavno nije za usporedbu
A319CROATIA 1 year ago
well, I thought it was a damn smooth landing!
nmcarpenter 1 year ago
I Love how the captain Looks around,Relaxes and smokes his cig lool
youngpilot234 1 year ago
Prijatno, i pozdrav'te Djulu Petrovica!
nenoandmirka 1 year ago
Mnogo dobri momci.SUPER!
nenoandmirka 1 year ago
HAHAHA!!!! 3:25 the pilot is smoking a cigarette!
DontSkrewWitMe 1 year ago
KOJE GODINE JE OVO SNIMANO??
SavaMarkovicPilot 2 years ago
YAT great airline, I love flying into Belgrade.
OBAMASTINKSLIKEANAPE 2 years ago
hoces da ga sletim na autoput.... jebote the BEST PILOTS EVER
mrbeckibeckmann 2 years ago
krenuli smo kasnije a stizemo ....
mrbeckibeckmann 2 years ago
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paulam128 2 years ago
@paulam128 how are we ignorant, in my opinion america is the most ignorant nation yes i know your not from there
cloudbook1994 2 years ago
What a lack of professionalism!! This comment is being made by a left seater. Absolutno zalosno!!
DensityAltitude 2 years ago
@DensityAltitude Um. What?
agentfazexx 2 years ago
Whatever one's loyalties to the airline, It is difficult to reasonably accept that smoking in the cockpit is as safe as not smoking in the cockpit. There are inherent and obvious risks such a a fire. Furthermore, while smoking, at least one hand is not available to engage the flight controls or other equipment critical to flying the airplane. You may talk all you like about having two pilots and redundancy, but you cannot convince an intelligent person that smoking is as safe as not smoking.
fooloof 2 years ago
I wrote a more elaborate explanation but it got lost so I will tell you in short terms. Smoking is not what I was talking about but your ignorant comment about JAT pilots and JAT schools.
GambiBoi 2 years ago
Well, the next time you want to use the "ignorant" label, maybe spend less time trying to be "elaborate" and spend more time figuring out how to save your comments. Anyway, I don't really have any response to a non-comment. Happy flying!
fooloof 2 years ago
No need. By your comment it shows your knowledge about JAT and its services is comparable to a 10 year old.
GambiBoi 2 years ago
Great comeback; instead of facts you resort to insults. I must be the ignorant one here.
fooloof 2 years ago
@fooloof jat was the safest airline in europe in 2007 i think
cloudbook1994 2 years ago
Cuj svinjogojstvo :D ima se vremena za sve :D
MrRadjevic 2 years ago 2
where is that ?
DinamiteBoy90 2 years ago
If you ever see two older guys with 4 stripes each piloting your flight like this one, relax... These guys know what they're doing. Two perfect landings in the video, thanks for sharing :)
SlotShop 2 years ago 8
svaka cast......
specijalacST 2 years ago
piloti su legende
80dekan 2 years ago 3
love it! 727 and a hippy crew! lol!
choffle33 2 years ago 12
This is really cool. And well done, too. Would be nice if someone could translate the conversation.
Chrizz10000 2 years ago 2
They comment an landscape and they say we are just passing our friends farm right below us. He has some thin animals.
ArminPr 2 years ago 2
Once, while boarding into the plane, I saw the captain smoking a cigarette. The cockpit was full of smoke but the flight was neither better nor worse than the others.
BTW, google "Adoph Galand" and "Greg Boyington".
mutulatu23 2 years ago
04:50 - "Drina Filter Airlines"
"Kape dole, pepeo na glavu!"
"Spasavaj se ko moze!"
:D)))))))))
mutulatu23 2 years ago 2
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mutulatu23 2 years ago
Oh! That makes sense, thank you!
cjacustomwoodworking 2 years ago
What is the small switch near the pilots thumb that makes a whiring noise when he touches it?
cjacustomwoodworking 2 years ago
Autopilot disconnect.
JohnDH1977 2 years ago
whats is that spinning in middle of console
notar1 2 years ago
Trim wheels
code123ns 2 years ago 3
What a beautiful plane, this is a real plane, not like all new gay airbus.
GinoRc 2 years ago 15
do pilots smoke in cockpits? n how many pilots smoke, travolta does
fireworks990 2 years ago
They dont anymore because of the indoor ban
azacool 2 years ago
Yes, smoke weed helps pilots to make great visual approachs
GinoRc 2 years ago
You can clearly see the throttles are not at idle at 4:13 in the video.
wmjohn6217 2 years ago
JAT nema B727 i DC9 od 2007 (tada su zvanicno otpisani), medjutim ne lete negde od 2004. ili 2005. godine, nisam siguran. Inace poslednji DC-10 (YU-AMB) je prodat i leteo je svoj poslednji let 24.6.2005. godine za Nimmes u Francuskoj.
ZKORALINL 2 years ago
nice landing, he made it look easy
v12kid 2 years ago 4
Great video. I love this bird. And very funny end. Thanks
magknight 2 years ago
Od kad JAT nema 727?
SlobusNS 2 years ago
Well, apart from the way those guys are operating, I'm astonished to see that the throttles seem to be on idle during the whole approach. I'd rather expected a different power setting, esp. considering the not so responsive engines on a 727.
rzbutcher 2 years ago
a da ga spusti na auto put :)
milpej 2 years ago
It is a no smoking flight
poorpilot00 2 years ago
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milosbgd21 2 years ago
kad je bre JAT parkiro 727's?? to su bili dani bre, kad su piloti bili BOGOVI!!
Check out my video "FLYING THE MUDDY RIVER" we are the best!
ludilo21 2 years ago
kako je rekao kolega, kapetan je i mozemu se ako zeli da pilotira i stoji na glavi ako :) i onako imamo naj pilote na svetu
srpskoselo 2 years ago
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this is why the USA has the BEST safety record.....
beergut111 2 years ago
Smoking in the cockpit...why not! He is the captain, he can do whatever he want to do! And i don't see that landing was bad. Hi just kissed a ground, just like that. A sad na Srpskom: Pusenje u kopitu...sto da ne! On je kapetan, moze mu se! A i ne vidim da je sletanje bilo lose. Poljubi covek zemlju samo tako. Svaka cast!
dallyborr 2 years ago
bravo Dalibore...sava sa foruma
SavaMarkovicPilot 2 years ago
Pozz Savo...ziv mi bio!
dallyborr 2 years ago
The non-ironed state of the Captain's shirt distracted me throughout the whole video. Very unprofessional.
GRTD40LFR 2 years ago
I would fly with this crew anytime anyday,even with all the conversation and distraction they still work efficiently and I have not seen any wrongdoing in that approach and that smooth landing.
Smoking in the cockpit?? Come on, give us a break,in fact we are the authority in the plane,so whatever we say that goes :))
commodoreras 2 years ago 3
Reci da smo sleteli!! :)
climb79 2 years ago
"sta ga ljuljas mamu ti jebem" haha
zaistinuipravdu 2 years ago 4
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travelhost011 2 years ago
JAT has got only 737
zazarus1 3 years ago
Obviously a 727 too... 3 engines are written all over this flight deck.
JMG717 2 years ago 5
They got rid of the remaining 727's a few years ago and now operate a 737-200 (to LHR, leased from Aviogenex), a few 737-300's and i think that they still have YU-AOS which is a leased 734. ATR's too.
flyekkeepdiscovering 2 years ago
they are smoking in the fligt?? lol
jose140292 3 years ago
Sto se tice letenja i slatanja, stvarno svaka cast. Pozdrav kolegama!
Sto se tice pusenja u kabini, da nije snimljeno na videu, niko sem pilota i kopilota nebi znao. Jedinu primedbu koju mogu da dam, je tip u beloj majci u pozadini, sa muslimanskim znameljem (Turskom zastavom) na levoj ruci.
Pilotobe 3 years ago
all things aside, that was a hell of a good landing!
gabe096 3 years ago
tako je bre majstori to su nasi piloti ovi strnaci mogu da kenjaju o sigurnosti ali jedno je sigurno jat-ovi piloti imaju najnezinija sletanja ubedljivo bilo visual ili ils il neki damo loc dme prilaz svaka cast momci.sto se cigare tice pa ko ce jos da izdrzi toliko vremena bez cigare zato je on i stigao pre vremena :)))
ivanak88 3 years ago 2
lol 3.34 "Would you like to land it on a freeway?" :-))
fromheretoglory 3 years ago
The pilot on left seat was smoking! Completely forbidden...bad example.
The pilot's glasses should be placed in a better place...shouldn't place their for a while...Bad example...here again.
We are watching a wrong human factor attitude.The crew is too sure of itself.
A silence allowing concentration would have been preferable in order to face any events during these "critical phases"...the workload being to increase rapidly in emergency case.
They are letting them a little bit go...
320bek2gaz 3 years ago
well, the last major incident was in the 70's when a bomb was placed on the plane, ever since there has been nothing. Even during the worst period during the sanctions. So i am sorry but i would rather have them work in an enviroment thats good for them, and apparently this one is.
And i can see that you are from France, well i think your flag carrier has a very nice safety record, so i think the french are not viable to give safety tips to anyone...!
nemjee 3 years ago 5
Crazy bastards!!!!
RathEanaigh2007 3 years ago
ma nije to nista naspram A319 pilota u croatiji
A319CROATIA 3 years ago
captain with no epaulettes?
gopussycat 3 years ago
ovo samo kod nas u srbiji ima da pilot pusi dok upravlja avionom...
mariags07 3 years ago
Tako i treba....
crnoglav 3 years ago
josh samo da izbaci ruku kroz prozor :D
SerbianCobra 2 years ago 4
da jebote.... :P
DonRausher 2 years ago
frajerji, ni kaj
pikica1971 3 years ago
HAAHHAHAHAHAHAHAH Kakvi likovi :)
keribbb 3 years ago
Schau Dich mal an......
crnoglav 3 years ago
I didnt know that the pilots are allowed to smoke in the aircraft. Thats not fair. Passengers are not allowed to smoke in the cabin.
Cipry16 3 years ago
Well maybe no one was on board and it was a "ferry flight" then it wouldm't disturb anyone. They really shouldn't be smoking though.
Joey7700 3 years ago 2
How smooth was that landing... Obviously a very experienced captain in the right seat also if I counted the stripes correctly!
SlotShop 3 years ago
Majstori. Ko moze njima da zabrani da puse u cabini??? Kao kad bi meni neko rekao, ej mojne da pricas na mobilnom dok vozis ili nemoj da jedes i da vozis.
MilosRaletic 3 years ago
Bunch of deadbeat pilots
LeonardRockstein 3 years ago
JAT has an excellent safety record the last time we lost an airframe was when when a bomb exploded on board. I feel safe with this airline every time, the 727 even came with ashtrays for pilots when it was built.
DVA3952 3 years ago
only JAT plane that fell was because of the bomb exploled and that was 35 years ago
dzonikg 3 years ago
Wow! Amazing flight crew. I love the smoking and the awesome attitude on this app. Marvelous!
yi668792 3 years ago
Calm down mon petit enfants. Why does everything have to get so damned hostile? The actions of the flight crew, regardless of nationality was much less than professional, and bordering on sloppy and dangerous. When you heard the audio "glidescope, glidescope", that should have been a clue, but we will not get into technicalities. As a retired Delta Airlines driver, I would not have wanted any of those people in my front office!
BerlinBunker1 3 years ago
The actions of the flightcrew were very professional and above average... Safety was not endangered at any time of the flight. They are just relaxed and maybe you got a wrong impression of a whole situatuion Sir. I can assure you that Jat Aireways's crews are among the best in the world. And if you are a pilot, you can analyse their actions, procedures and descitions and be very convinced that everything was more than fine!
markoo811 3 years ago 7
And about GPWS activation : This was a visual approach with an older airplane... Check out the PAPI lights and you will find the correct answer!
markoo811 3 years ago 2
berlinbunker1 your dumb, they are on visual approach, they were cleared at an altitude lower than the ILS glideslope which is why you hear that warning. look at the PAPI
sportskid11 3 years ago
Kraljevi
zola011 3 years ago
smoking??? WTF!!?? 3:20 and 5:50
boni78 3 years ago
He is croatian!!!!how is he from serbia??
because he is orthodox,he is supposed to be serbian or his parents born in serbia?who gives a shit where his parents are from....
brcakb 3 years ago
He is Serbian!!! You croatians do not have any smart people, butchers only!!!
zola011 3 years ago
he is croatian orthodox,he is not serbian than...
If he cared much about Balkans he wouldn't move to America..
brcakb 3 years ago
I thought Nikola Tesla was Croatian?!?!confused..
brcakb 3 years ago
Tesla is Serb. He was just born in croatia, but he is serb.
Morgothhhh 3 years ago 3
Yes, he was Croatian, but his parents were serbian
Ljud1 3 years ago
Born in Smiljan,Croatian Krajina, he was an ethnic Serb subject of the Austrian Empire and later became an American citizen.
He was Serb, not Croatian.
Morgothhhh 3 years ago 3
Oh, lol. I failed XD
Ljud1 3 years ago
What country! Your country was torn apart and I know dozens of refugees with horror stories of rape, abuse, and murder. But no one is talking about "history"; we're talking about technology and advancement. Again, you have no answer for why your pilot is flying with a cigarette but without his glasses. You have no answer as to why your country is flying AMERICAN planes, not Yugo planes. You have no answer as to why pilots from all over the world come here to train and fly OUR simulators.
fooloof 3 years ago
You are right - What country!? You were bombing us few years ago!!! Why? I will tell you why! Because you are fucking terrorists!!!
By the way, i dont give a fuck about your planes, they are not only ones, there is Airbus too. And say thanks to Nikola Tesla ( who was serbian) for electricity, you moron!!!
p.s. Wherever in the world your country takes a part there is war (against terrorism - what a joke)! Iran will fuck you all!!!
zola011 3 years ago
We bomed you because you clowns were tearing the country apart with all your ethnic cleansing. Don't blame us; blame Slobodan, bitch! And where do all of your raggedy refugees come? USA. But you know what? None of this is relevant to extremely dangerous conduct of the flight crew in this video. There is no possible debate on this issue. I nothing else on this subject unless you can present some kind of argument as to why these pilots' conduct should be considered "safe."
fooloof 3 years ago
You are right - What country!? You were bombing us few years ago!!! Why? I will tell you why! Because you are fucking terrorists!!!
By the way, i dont give a fuck about your planes, they are not only ones, there is Airbus too. And say thanks to Nikola Tesla ( who was serbian) for electricity, you moron!!!
p.s. Wherever in the world your country takes a part there is war (against terrorism - what a joke)! Iran will fuck you all!!!
zola011 3 years ago
Form iraq, there are same stories about you "brave" soldiers doing same things.
Oh and about your country technology and advancement... Your technology is based on NAZI / foreign discoveries, you havent done almost nothing by yourselves, you are just stealing innovations from scientists around the world. So go and bullshit about your technology to someone else.
Morgothhhh 3 years ago
Apparently you are an idiot, too. The point of the thread was that these Yugo pilots have no regard for basic safety procedures and practices. As for the NAZI allegation, you need to present some proof before I swallow that one. And if it's all "stealing" from other people, then why aren't more countries just as advanced? Do you even read what you right? Your comments are absurd. And I wasn't even in dialogue with you; so if you don't like it, stick it up your ass.
fooloof 3 years ago
Retarded? Your whole rocket science stands on scientists, captured / surrendered in nazi germany. Check out Wernher von Braun. And you should know about immigration of people to USA, at least i do, and you apparently dont and you live there not me. And that immigration has brought techonology to you. Sadly enough huh?
And about safety procedure... Whatever you are practicing in your country is not neccessary correct in other, we dont have guns/civil agents on our planes, not that paranoid.
Morgothhhh 3 years ago
I am aware of all the contributions of European scientists, particularly Jewish ones; however, we did not "steal" anything, as you foolishly claimed. And there is a reason that these scientists came to the USA and NOT Serbia. And it's much better to be paranoid on an airplane than cavalier and foolhardy. I have shot down all of your pathetic arguments and you have nothing to offer in this debate. You would do well to refrain from commenting any further.
fooloof 3 years ago
Well i did counter any of your arguments and i still can. You cant change the history :)
Yes, they saw a promise land in USA, but it was faaaaar from that. And still is, and this " we are supreme country" pisses me off more than anything else. Becuase you simple arent. Almost everything in your culture is taken from other cultures, you are just a mix of lots of nations. I addmit, stealing wasnt right word, but still, most of your concepts isnt american in fact.
Morgothhhh 3 years ago
Dude, let's just call it a day.
fooloof 3 years ago