Mozart - Don Giovanni (Losey) -- Finale pt.2

[BINGFRYSRDUN]

I wish the statue would move or do something, cuz i think its must scarier (thats the point of the statue) if he at least moved some.

[chocobharata]

Waouh Ruggero <3

[crownprincetaffe]

but how he goes to hell in this version is silly.

he reverses towards the fire then turns aorund screams and falls in, wouldn't it be better if the ground had consumed him? It's a little more crediable that way.

[crownprincetaffe]

love Don Giovanni's costume I must admit:3

[Ariadne7710]

Yes you can have English subtitles on it. I have the DVD but I also saw the movie some time ago in a movie theatre. It is fantastic. Well worth it. You can get it from Amazon.

[MegaVivi75]

hermosa producción.

[cHeMLiFeXoXo]

does anyone know, if I buy this DVD will I be able to have english translations on it? I like to follow the story line as well as appreciate the music aswell. thanks very much.

[BarnabasFrid]

A Losey film without James Villiers? A CRIME!

[fravatel]

some (bilingual) subtitles would be nice, e.g. English and Italian.

[rumpranger65]

Great movie. Best scene in the whole thing.

[linceed87]

amazing!!!

[constantworker]

Can you post the whole movie?

[Jevely08]

Is this film on DVD or VHS? I have tryied to find it but haven't got any luck! I saw this in a cinema in Norway years ago and never forget it! If someone know where I can find it or order it I will be very glad!!

[blichilde]

Now you can get it on DVd. I have recently bought it, in a shop in Italy.

[linceed87]

try amazon

[vinllga]

it wd be better if Losey used a real statue as Comandore, not actor.

[LifeJuice90]

Mozart used an actor.

[7SaveEurope]

I think,the final of KV527 is the most dramatic final of the Oper History.

[NoirOrchestre]

i wouldn't say of the opera history, but certainly of its time

[BarbaraPloyer333]

Creepy.... sometimes I think Mozart was trying to express something that I just can't quite put my finger on through this...

CREEPY!!!! ...but awesome.

[EmilyGreene1984]

Well, in this scene, he's showing the price for Don Giovanni "living for the day and doing whatever he pleases with no limits and moral conscience" will be death, unless he repents of his wicked behaviour. Sadly, he chooses to remain the rake as he is and he gets what he deserves.

[sexybrahms]

did the movie end there?!!!

[blichilde]

No, there is another sequence

[lapkine77]

Poor Leporello, at least he did nothing bad in the opera :)

[TheBasilio]

Excelente produccion, excelentes voces pero los tempos son demasiados lentos, lo hace aburrido. ya la musica tiene las notas largas y el caracter, no habia que cantarlo tan lento, como decimos en viena: pan con dulce mas mermelada y mas miel.

[linceed87]

de hecho si, estoy de acuerdo y le hubieran puesto mas enfasis en la seccion de violines para mas poder, por cierto de donde eres

[TheBasilio]

de colombia y tu?

[nume26]

Haha Leporello's hiding under the table like a little bitch.

[liljohnnotbigjohn]

hm. A pissed of ghost bringing the legions of hell to drag your boss back to the pit to atone for his crimes... Oh, and it looks like he is going to take Leporello along? I think I'd hide as well... In the next county...

[nume26]

Hell isn't too bad. There's so many people there, so no one ever gets lonely, and not to mention the daily marshmallow roasts with luke warm coffee. If I were Leporello, I'd be like "RAWR! Take me too!" But that's just me.

[joseinferno]

monumental, uno de los capitulos mas oscuros y deliciosos de la opera, que vooz.

[kwakos22]

It is marvellous!

[deja2049]

you have to present the whole losey film including part 2 of the finale as prologue to either met=levine ramey with or without koll as the piece de la resistance. losey's film stands on its own but you must then see the finale in its full musical and allegorical power in either met staging

to connect with mozart's trancendant vision of the mysterium tremendum fascinans of cosmic reality overwhelming

the mundane world of sensory illusion

exemplfied by the magnificent life of the party don juan

[villapierre]

I love Leporello from 02:14 to 02:57. Mozart was... can' t say! But if he could see MTV, he'd not be proud of us.

Not sure mankind is turning better.

[Atrux1]

probably not cause it is much easier for big corporations to sell us stupid things like TV shows etc. Much more "bankable" as they said.

The less educated we are, the better it is for them.

[tkroff1455]

@Atrux1 You mean they make a lot of money in the USA?

[Exodia64]

I love their wigs. Wow.

[Sarounichounette]

J'adore cette version de Don Giovenni <3

[nume26]

Hey, me too!

[Sarounichounette]

Tu sais qu'il y a une version Best Of ? Je ne l'ai pas mais j'aimerais vraiment l'avoir... :)

[nume26]

I only know about the Losey film, and the one in the scene from Amadeus.

[Sarounichounette]

A ok... eh bien il existe une version Best Of vraiment bien...je te la conseille ;)

[A7madeus]

I hate it

the director destroyed the great music

the man singing Don Giovanni sings with no feelings

and looks affraid which is not present in the opera were he is brave telling :A torto di viltate Tacciato mai saro

not trembling with fear like this singer

[Quasimodo1957]

I went to see this recently at the opera and it was pretty much played the same way. I guess the part is somewhat subject to interpretation. The liberetto has a sidenote saying "Don Giovanni trying to compose himself" as a stage direction. I always believed that this was the way it should be. DG being taken aback at the presnece of the statute and composing himself as best one could when confronted with such a scene.

[A7madeus]

forget about the stage direction listen to music. do u feel music telling that Don Giovanni is trying to compose himself !!!

I think the typical direction is like that in S. Ramey & K. Moll here in youtube

feel the music U can feel Don Giovanni's strength. he is strong or he would just say Yeeeeeeeees instead of the repeated NOOOOO :)

plus in this recording the singing is bad and Giovanni's voice is much Deeper than Il commendatore's voice which shares ruining the scene also

[Quasimodo1957]

Perhaps....however if Mozart wrote the music and DaPonte the liberetto then wouldn't they also have collaborated on the stage direction? I grant you the music is great...i even bought this soundtrack. But if Mozart thought the stage direction would not refelct the mood of the music, why allow DaPonte to add it?

[A7madeus]

DaPonte wrote the libertto b4 Mozart put the music. We say Mozart's freat opera "Don Giovanni" not DaPonte's in the first place.If DaPonte feeled the scene this way I think most of people will prefere what the great composer Mozart's musical view. I think If Don Giovanni was afraid, music will express so very easily. Do u think that such music can be considered by any mean to express hidden fear ??? Don't u agree with me the version I mentioned to u 4 this scene is more compatible with the music

[Quasimodo1957]

I agree that the music was written to show hestiation on Don Giovanni's part. Who would not be shaken if a walking, talking statute showed up at your doorstep tolling your doom? I belive that regardless of who wrote what then or later, the scene portrays the mood.

Lets face it, its the actor who portrays it in his own interpretation.

[A7madeus]

I agree with u. But the actor is not totaly free to change the whole thing like that, plus Dont u think that Il Commendatore's voice should be much deeper than Don Giovanni's??? Also it is not impressive at all watching a non "motile" - :D- statue singing some of the greatest singing in opera repretoire "Verrai tu a cenar meco"

"Ah! tempo piu non v'e" that needs a strong deep voice and a strong & sort of scary actor

[A7madeus]

by the way U said u've bought that track. I have a very good recording for the entire opera. if u want i can upload it for u but send me how

[Quasimodo1957]

I agree 100% on that. After seeing the Moll/Ramsey version (and I'd love to lay my hands on that but it's not to be had) the DG movie version pales in comparison. Deeper sounds more foreboding.

[donfrollo2]

who is the servant in black he's not Leperllo?

[Regenmacher175]

Probably the Devil.

[kandutery]

is another servant

[tam1001]

to elaborate, he was the illegitemate son of Don Giovanni (not that he was the only one), and he works in the humiliating position of servant to his own father. he acts as an observer of the events that unfold, and it is he who closes the doors at the close of the film. It can be presumed that he would inherit the house and fortune of Giovanni, as he was a direct descendant of him after all...

[donfrollo2]

does anyone know where I can find the stage film version where the dead commander's ghost is under Don Giovanni's table and you only here his voioe, is it on youtube?

Because that was a brilliant way to do the ghost

[EmilyGreene1984]

I love the interpretation with Kurt Moll, Samuel Ramey and Furlanetto. Although the entrance of the Commandatore is a bit theatrical, I love the contrast in the different types of bass and bass-baritone and also the ending when Don Giovanni refuses to give up his evil lifestyle. The demons of Hell come up from the floor to claim him.

[theatheisthand]

What is up with the servant in black that doesn't seem to be affected by the fact that there's a talking statue?

[BaldricOutremer]

He is more or less a metaphor of the fate awaiting Don Giovanni (and now catching up with him).

Or you could say he is the Devil.

[EmilyGreene1984]

The former is correct, I think. Don Giovanni's wicked life of living a life of doing whatever and however he pleases with no regard for anyone is finally going to catch up with him and punish him for his evil ways. Although the ghost of the Commandatore tries to give him a second chance to repent of the lifestyle saying "Repent, this is your last chance" and of course he refuses and pays the price.

[wachtelms]

This young man, who appears throughout the film, is an observer to the story.

[serRudyll]

I haven't seen the movie (and don't think I want to since even Van Dam isn't good in it, and the camerawork is totally bollocks; watch the Catalog Aria), but I think a fourth person in it destroys the whole scene. It's just a detail, but I think there should only Leporello, DG and the Commander. Besides, to me it feels like Leporello is the observer in the whole story. (I put of the video while typing btw, since I can't stand this Commandatore's voice. And DG is horrible as well.)

[nume26]

Pentiti, cangia vita, è lultimo momento!

[FranksValli]

I think this is my second most favorite that I've seen - the first being the one shown in the movie "Amadeus". This version does seem a bit too slow, though, but it's very good.

[boggie276]

In "Amadeus" a considerable part of this scene is cut out, because at the same time Salieri has his monologue; this passes unnoticeably to most viewers and just shows how a great director Forman is.