Carl Lewis & Pose Method Analysis

[viperdude281]

Isnt the pose method designed for distance running? Sprinting and distance running are completely different.

[posetv]

@viperdude281 the Pose Method is for running - period, distance chosen does not change the technique used.

[viperdude281]

@posetv Distance does matter when it comes to form. Sprinting requires a longer stride and you must push off of the ground much harder than running long distance. You also drive with your arms much harder while sprinting. With proper form you barely have to push off the ground at all while running long distance; you just roll if you have efficient turnover. Also, the arms are mainly used for balance when running long distance.

[posetv]

@viperdude281 You're by all means entitled to your opinion.

[kmackayak]

@viperdude281 @posetv pose is a running technique. sprinting=running fast. yes out of the blocks is a diff technique but when you are in form pose is a brilliant sprint method. with pose you can maintain a high cadence at all speeds then increase stride length through a more powerful pull. long stride length should be though of as distance between support phase not distance between legs (ie leg split) watch bolt, pose form; consistent cadence, elongating stride thru acceleration

[viperdude281]

@kmackayak I dont know if you read my comment thoroughly or not, but let me reemphasize some things. The pose method is a way to run efficient and to waste the least amount of energy possible. You don't push off the ground when using the pose method which you cannot do while sprinting. Sprinting requires constant driving of the arms and pushing off the ground regardless of if you are accelerating or at maximum speed. Why do you think sprinters' and distance runners' bodies are so different?

[atleta293]

Los brazos van muy descendidos al momento posterior del braceo

[CarlosStephenPR]

Its almost like he was flying

[decaDBZ]

unreal, of course, but he could have ran a little faster had he used the lower heel-retrieval technique out of the blocks, I guess they didn't know about it back then...

[MyOttoLink]

@decaDBZ Where can I get a DVD of this heel retrieval technique?

[bartosx]

athletic in every cell of his body..

[Sick3ninVend3tta]

Carl didn't run like this at meets & championships. He counter-rotated his lower-upper body when he ran.

[higradecomputers]

No denying he was the greatest, and he has one of the greatest forms but I believe if he had started with low heel recovery, he would have timed probably 9.5 or less??

[karthikbr0071]

just more than perfect..!!

[DerrickRose241]

he scared me at 0:09

[byakuyakuchiki7]

good lord look at that form..it's like he's floating

[6eggc]

screensaver :D

[swanscombekarateCOM]

What a legend



[69codmaster]

He's a good runner but your hands are NOT supposed to be out straight they are supposed to be like you were holding an egg

[ph0rmality]

@69codmaster Are you really going to tell a man with 9 olympic gold metals that he is running incorrectly? Obviously your little egg trick is of little importance. Unless your name is Usain Bolt you have no room to talk... Bolt by the way also keeps his hands straight. Clearly you shouldn't be talking on this subject.

[lalealynn]

@69codmaster This is so silly...the man is superb and as an elite athlete he has a great physical intelligence he knows whathe is doing . Yes there is a general form for running but everyones body is different body poportions are different...this is the best form for his body ..you cant argue with success...your hands this way that way...it really depends on you body shape there are general rules but acoach will look at you your movement and body type and work with it within some general rules

[Standardfrank]

@lalealynn : i like your comments...Carl Lewis revolutionized sprinting to what it is today...Lewis shook the world doing 10-flat at 19 @ sea level...where all the coaches refused that sub-10 was impossible at sea level...so lewis refused running & jumping at altitude...b4 lewis...sprinting was done tight & the training drills in those days...= run as fast as you can to 60 metres then prey & hold on...Lewis came along and reversed it...TODAYS COACHES USE THE CARL LEWIS 'THOUGHT'-MANUAL!

[11007eric]

@69codmaster For any real distance, yes.; not for a sprint.

[posetv]

@69codmaster hands/arms are for balance only, how one holds his fingers is irrelevant at any distance.

[drone713]

@posetv Not at long distance. If your hands aren't relaxed your forearms will start to burn after only a few minutes.

[mozzakofficial]

@posetv if you hold fists would you be able to run a marathon without failiture?not really

[posetv]

@mozzakofficial what do you base your assumptions on?

[mozzakofficial]

@posetv I know that if you hold fists you lose more energy than being relaxed and in marathon it is all about endurance and being more economic.

[posetv]

@mozzakofficial your clenched fists are the last on the list of things that drain your energy when running. Poor body positioning is first.

[roxtar55]

@posetv Hand position is actually tentative to one's stride length and body proportions. Tom Tellez explains that some runners, like Carl, had longer levers, and thus having the hand reach out further lengthens the lever, thus he could handle a bigger range of motion. But Tom Tellez also explained that Leroy Burrell preferred to have his hands closer, like he was holding an egg because the shorter lever of the arms was more efficient for his body proportions.

[posetv]

@roxtar55 You can run with your arms and hands tied behind your back where your hand position doesn't matter. Arms are levers and in running are used for balance. Runners with better technique and obviously better balance tend to keep arms closer to their trunk. And hands' position is a personal choice that has more to do with habits than anything else.

[roxtar55]

@posetv Correct. So every runner is different and adjusts their levers accordingly.

[roxtar55]

@posetv Either way is fine, just as long as it's the right one for you, and they should also both be relaxed - the hand shouldn't be stiff when longer and straight, or stiff when it is more closed more like an egg. No fists, no tense reaching straight hands either. As long as they are relaxed it's fine. You can even see, Carl Lewis' hands are stretched out longer, yet relaxed as the wind is freely moving them on the downstroke.

[kopk888]

@69codmaster i totally don't expect someone called 69codmaster to teach how to run "right"

[roxtar55]

@69codmaster Actually, it technically depends on the runners power, strength, stride frequency, and length of levers. By having your hands stretched out longer, it increases the time it takes to complete one stride; because it is lengthening the lever of the arm. However, the more closed the hand is, the shorter the lever is; this would be ideal for someone who makes less ground contact.

[Standardfrank]

@69codmaster : He's a good runner but your hands are NOT supposed to be out straight they are supposed to be like you were holding an egg = What IS YOUR SPRINTING PEDIGREE & HOW MANY OLYMPIC & WORLD MEDALS HAVE YOU WON?

[psolarhidi]

@69codmaster so you're giving advice to fucking Carl Lewis?? An Olympic gold medalist?? Yeah i'm sure extended fingers is something that really holded him back during his career. His uneducated coaches and he himself could not spot a so important error in his running form and fix it. It is so unfortunate that you and your great knowledge weren't around earlier to help him. Maybe he could have broken a couple records more.

[marti18golfgolf]

do you guys think tom tellez knows about pose.......never heard of it! carl was coached by a man who knew about biomechanics and never called it X technique like POSE is! go look at a child run and then compare the angles to carl. you will see alot of similiar comparisons!!!

[marti18golfgolf]

look at heile gab running, paula radcliffe and so on. they land on the ball of the foot and not on the heel whether its during a 5k or a full marathon. POSE is in my opinion a money making object.

[andres5501]

@marti18golfgolf If you have never tried nothing in your life, don't bother giving your "expert" opinion.

[marti18golfgolf]

@andres5501 trust me ive been there with coach tom tellez so i actually do know what im talking about. ive trained and ran alongside carl lewis also. end result is ive learned immensely from both coach and athlete and all im trying to do is help people learn an easy way rather than talking BS!

[marti18golfgolf]

from the start you must push push push NOT pull. in fact POSETV is totally wrong. in sprinting you never pull unless its a hamstring. you push off the ground not pull. in the set position carls front leg is at 90* angle and rear is at 135*- perfect for full extension. also carl is this clip is performing at maybe 75% effort- his angles during full flight would be far superior. POSETV ill challenge anything you say regarding sprint biomechanics and prove you wrong...watch a kid run=perfection!

[blessedbranch]

@marti18golfgolf I think pose technichne is best for long distance to conserve energy and be more effective towards the end of a race.

[JohnStecchino]

Fantastic! I have achieved the same cadence after about 10 months running barefoot or with aquashoes. Forget trainers or useless expensive running shoes.

Running barefoot will let you land naturally on the fore foot making this cadence naturally by the time. And when I go running and I give a sprint it is really like a symphony for me

[favrefan12491]

@JohnStecchino It's a sprint, if you don't do this no matter how you walk, then you're an idiot

[JohnStecchino]

@favrefan12491 The "pose method" does not apply only to sprint

[jakisnot]

notice for how little time his feet actually touch the ground

[djfunkychicken]

Usain bolt probably sees everyone running this slow

[sueyking]

Is that sloppy form coming out of the block?

[jakisnot]

@sueyking

yes, he 'popped'

[Quibbleify]

Looks like hes floating

[camilocuesta]

Thanks for not puting music on this

[oldpiq]

How did he NOT crash his metatarsals?

[eequalsmvsquare]

poetry in motion

[Dexterity64]

This dude could walk on water I swear.

[19batista96]

he made it so easy

[taverlisk]

I thought the pose method is for greater efficiency in distance running, rather than sprinting.

[taverlisk]

Thats not the pose method

[LRPMS64]

La course parfaite...

[freakmenoobi]

his magic!!! is lyk watching those fairy tales

[BloodyNine007]

He seems to float above the ground...

[klined]

wtf it looks like it's gliding

[Demoras]

Whoa, what beautiful running technique he has!

[kin3d]

he barely touches the ground. I had such a crush on him when I was a kid!!

[lespaulsarecool]

I think he is just a pronator, there is nothing wrong with being a pronator plety of people have zero issues with it

[Filo011]

it looks like hes flying,

but i though pose method was where u lead foward & pull ur legs, that looks like the other one forget name,

[jokergd]

@Filo011 flying... thats how I feel when i sprint in my vibram five fingers :) ... but yeah, the faster you go, the less contact your feet make with the ground

his heel isn't anywhere near touching the ground

[favrefan12491]

@jokergd Just making sure, but you know in sprinting there should be no heel contact ever, just slows the pace. Don't mean to be condescending.

[jokergd]

@favrefan12491 why are you directing that towards me? did you even read what I said? I said my FEET barely touch the ground, not my heels. What the hell are you talking about condescending???

[leosjk]

perfect biomechanics

[lespaulsarecool]

you having a laugh? look at his left ankle

[kenshitheone]

i think it just from force that it rolls inward like that. what you think?

[unclesidandthegay]

Watching him run is like listening to a symphony