In response to your comment why do black people want to be Berbers? Berbers are a mixed race around (3000) years ago Arabs ventured out of (West and North Asia) into Africa and mated with Blacks. North African Arabs that did not MIXwith blacks are called to this day Arabs and not Berbers. Why do people like you obsess with Africans and Asians.
@ReadMeatForYou That would be lying to ourselves if we said we're just Arab. When really like you said arabs mixed with blacks, when infact it was white berbers mixed with black berbers, cause Arabs were too busy trying to make us slaves. North Africa is more Berber blooded than Arab. We are mainly African. So it would be real ignorant to say we only speak Arabic, we are just Arab and we deny our true African heritage.
@ReadMeatForYou Where did you got that information from? Your stupid kind is making this here up and what us to believe you> Where is your evidence. Berbers you stupid Moron have a histroy which goes more then 6000 years back. The DNA data abot North African, Sub Sharan Africans, Asians,. Europeans is welknown and available on net. Do you think peopel are stupid. We all can read and write, we all know you are full of shit.
The Berber Muslim conquered Spain successfully like real warriors and real men and the Arabs messed everything up. Such a pity!!! But does not matter, everything has a reason. Allah u Akbar, peace out
@elgazar99: Salamu Alaikum Brother , Thank you very much for greetings, I send u greetings too and for all Arabs and Non-arabs Muslims, and sure for All Muslims Brothers all over the world. May Allah bless all Uma Mohamed ( PBUH) Insh'Allah . Assalamu Alaikum. Greetings from Paris .
the most important think is that small number of a Muslim army could defeat a much biger army of any kingdom or race in that times...means Muslims were great and now are real assholes..do you agree brothers? salam aleykum..
@asfaltwalker yeah yeah winning armies always claim they defeated much bigger armies, im not saying thats always wrong but...the winners write most of the history. We portuguese also have many battles where we claim to done the same...but who knows and who cares? facts are who won and who lost.
The problem for North Africa came from the Arab Muslim conquest that from mixing religion with militarism, like the Christians will do later as "Crusade" will be splitted apart from the Western Classic Cultures and Mediterranean Civilization it belonged to and shared with Europe. Thank the goat herding Semitic Asians for that, at some point they recognized and preserved Egyptian/Greek Arts and Wisdom but their religious zealots burned books and with it went back to goatherding.
black dosen't mean African negro alway's black is a skin colour it can be any dark race of people it should not alway's be associated with african negro's because that's just sterotyping people there not the only dark skinned people in the world i hate when people say that western bs my dad's black skinned my friend's are blacked skinned does that mean there african negro no even tho they have the pigment.!!!
my friend supermike, the berbers that populated north africa region are described as mediterannean, yes there was blacks that made up a proportion of the army, but it was made up of mainly berbers, i am berber and so is my whole family, you can see the berbers today, they have been described in history books, yes there was blacks of course as this is AFRICA, however its wrong to claim tarik was black, the black berbers were only black cos they adopted the berber language and way of life
@supermike2164 Why do black people so eagerly want berbers to be black?Are you so desperate?African black history is rich by itself you don't have to make up things so that you feel black people achieved something! I'm berber and i'm originally from the atlas mountains and when I go there,there is very little influence of the western world they live isolated en traditionally!So if berbers where black I would see it there.Berber resemble Latin Americans in colour,we are brown,not black nor white!
@supermike2164 Example: I am berber and I speak dutch, does that mean that all Belgian people are berbers because I and many other berbers speak Dutch?? -_-"sounds stupid doesn't it, but that's what you are saying.There are black that integrated in the berber way of life but that doesn't mean they are true berbers.But Alhamdoullilah islam comes 1 then our culture.Black, white,yellow or brown that doesn't matter.In our way religion comes first I just respond because I hate lies and fake people;-)
@Muslim2100 yes it may offend you the way we americans use our perspective when we comment on your culture but understanding is a two way street. Therefore if you understand that our idea of black isn't the same as your idea of blacks then we may have less frustration. Because I AM NOT SAYING THAT ALL BERBERS ARE BLACKS. I myself have a carmel brown tone but I am considered black in this country because of my dominant heritage.
@supermike2164 With other words anything that isn't white, is considered to be black??
We have a word for caramel brown.. Mulat.
But I understand the frustration of many black people.. History is manipulated allot, especially that of Africans and MUSLIMS. But we should focus on the future and leave the past, that will be more profitable for us ;)
@Muslim2100 now you calling me a "Mulat" sounds close to mullato which to americans means one white parent and one black parent. which is offensive to me because both of my parents are black people all 4 of my grandparents are black people my father is just darker than my mom who is the same tone as myself.
No anything that has enough black heritage to SHOW is considered black in america. mexicans, indians, asians some are darker than some blacks they aren't black because of heritage
@Muslim2100now the past cannot actually change but our UNDERSTANDING of the lessons of the past changes all the time. Also the past is revealed all the time and the understanding of the past is what helps to CHANGE the future.
@Muslim2100 many berbers are not blacks but what may be very confusing to you is that people from the american side of the planet consider anyone who has enough Black blood a black person (has little to do with skin tone) for example someone like Tom Joyner is considered a black man. Where you are from he may be considered Arab. So what I am saying is that at that time dark brown and black people were more plentiful in this area. Yes it is important for us 2 see this represented
@gibralter04 i suggest that any afrocentic comment shoiuld be removed we are sick of reading their crap. each time you want to know more about ancient civilizations you see these uneducated monkeys talking shit and pretending that these civilisations were theirs. for these afrocentrics: ancient egyptians were black ancient berbers were black the pheonicians were black the israelis were black the original greeks were blck the original chinese were black and the list goes on.... SICK!
I live in MALI and the BERBERS FROM MALI look like WESLEY snipes or OBAMA.
these are "HOLLYWOOD" BERBERS who are really "modern arabs" or CENTRAL ASIAN TURKS.
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REAL BERBERS were BLACK (since they ruled in EUROPE for 700 yrs eventually they MIXED with WHITE women for 700 yrs and now most of them in MOROCCO and MALI (REAL BERBERS) look like OBAMA or T.I. the rapper.
@dogons2k12 Negrito maricón quieres hacer tus sueños realidad y te morderás la polla en tu frustracion pues los que invadieron la península eran de extracción Bereberes o Amazigh.asi que ya sabes a leer que te hace falta,Ah! y te quiero aclarar que me gustan las negras y mulatas siempre y cuando no les hayan extirpado el clítoris.
@dogons2k12 Don't you understand Spanish? I just said little nigger queer you are making your dreams a reality and you'll bite your dick in frustration since those who invaded Spain were of Amazigh origins or Berbers if you prefer and I'll suggest that you read about this history because you need it and by the way I like Black and mulatto girls but whole with clitoris and everything, complete no fouling around here,so sorry the Spaniards don't have Negros from Mali but I can make you some!!!
your KRAKKER time is over and you are just little neanderthal fagot with no history who got RULED by the so called "NEGROES" for almost 800 yrs. CHECK Your DNA ... LMAOF you have me in your BLOOD ... LMAOF
No wonder southern Europeanderthals have bigger DICKS than your neanderthal cousins in the north ... HAhehehhe
your KRAKKER time is over and you are just little neanderthal fagot with no history who got RULED by the so called "NEGROES" for almost 800 yrs. CHECK Your DNA ... LMAOF you have me in your BLOOD ... LMAOF
No wonder southern Europeanderthals have bigger DICKS than your neanderthal cousins in the north ... HAhehehhe
@dogons2k12 THEY JUST CANT LET GO OF THE LIES!!!...IT HURTS THEM SO MUCH...TO ADMIT THE VERY PEOPLE THEY MONKEYS,SLAVES..NIGGERS ARE THE VERY PEOPLE THAT BIRTH THEM SCHOOL AND RAISE THEM
@dogons2k12 Hi bro !1 no ,no you are wrong brother. I am an algerian berber (Kabylian) and I am not black, so the berbers are mixt, it's the only race in the world that have blacks,darks,and whites. and we are all berbers. I still speak my berber language. in mali there is the berber Touareg, and in algeria too there is the touareg berber. Actually I have many friends from Mali and some of them are berbers, just they have some words different than my berber dialect. So this movie is true but ju.
@dogons2k12 its true that there is arabs in algeria and morocco , but we have not mixed with them until now. and if you go and read the history of berbers you will see that we were existing befor the roman and the egyptian civilizations.
you should know by now that we, the hollywood derbers, are the same berbers 1000 years ago and the same berbers 20000 years ago and we will be the same in the future. apart from the so called touareg who are not true berbers but still speak a variant berber language other that they are sub sahareens like others only - then 9% have amazigh dna.
the truth is you need to visit morocco and see how they look really before talking shit on net
Using Greek and Roman sources, Franck M. Snowden has pointed out that the "MAURI" (whose color received frequent notice were described as "NIGRI" (black) and "ADUSTI" (scorched).
Franck M. Snowden, Before Color Prejudice (Cambridge, MA: Havard University Press, 1983), 9.
@bogarde515 Many Spaniards of today have Berber and Arab ancestors (genetic studies are clear), and far more have Andalusi ancestors in general (think that most of Andalusis weren't Berber nor Arab but simply islamized and arabized Iberians).
@bogarde515 Open a book please. Saying that Islam hasn't given anything to Spain is like saying that Christianism hasn't given anything to Europe. Besides what do you mean with buildinsg and scale ?
@bogarde515 I never desire for Muslims to reconquer Spain nor is that my dream.
I'm just saying that Muslims did contribute enormously to western civilisation and that's a fact, a full fact.
Yes, they used the works of the Romans and the Greeks, but Europe in turn, used the works of the Muslims as a foundation for the Renaissance. The science, art, architecture and medicine of the renaissance was based on the works of the Muslims and the Classical Greeks and Romans as well. That's a fact.
@bogarde515 The Teruel Cathedtral, the Tower of Santa Maria, the Mudejar Castle of La Mota, the San Pedro Church and sooo many other famous national pieces of architecture in Spain were built by Muslims, during the times Christians took back all but Granada.
The Christians hired Muslim workers, called Mudejars, to build, because they were the best craftsmen, while the Christians didn't know shit about craft. And this is just architecture, many other places exist, like art, medicine and maths.
@truebeliever786 And if you put on a scale Arab buildings, and put in another balance Christian buildings ... who wins? Christian buildings 99%, 1% Arab constructions
@bogarde515 Islamic works from Toledo and Cordoba after were used. The works of the Muslims were taken there, translated from Arabic into Latin and into many other languages and they were circulated all over Europe. Works of medicine, poetry, art, architecture, irrigation and much more influenced European culture like hell. Even after the reconquista, Spain's Monarchs employed Muslims in architecture. Spain's famous Christian monuments were built by Muslims in the Islamic style, that's a fact.
The works of the Romans and Greeks was advanced upon by the Muslims. And Muslims preserved the works of the Greeks, like Aristotle, Archimedes etc... and progressed on it.
Ibn an-Nafis discovered pulmonary circulation of the heart, a concept vital to heart surgery today and ibn Buqaqis discovered a cure to a specific eye-disease, used until World War 1 by the West, so don't talk shit. Muslims contributed loads to science and progress, more than nearly anyone
@bogarde515 Not really, they left a legacy of tolerance and multiculturalism generally, although at times, shit happens, as they say, because corrupt rulers like the Moravids and Mohads took power.
Yes, all the stuff was done thanks to Greco-Roman advancement, but then all the advancements of the Muslims in Toledo, Cordoba and Granada were done thanks to the Muslims and these vital sources of information provided Europe the basis of knowledge for the renaissance...
@bogarde515 I am not on about the recent muslim islamised bebers..............I MEAN the descendants of the berbers who came into iberia 10s of 1000s of years ago............not the recent berbers... btw spain and its state is heavily latinised and sadly lost its ibero-celtic cultures due to harsh roman oppression
the basques are probably descended from the pre muslim berbers of proper ancient times.....and so are a part of the "spanish"...thats the irony.....just killing each other over made up gods is so sad
Al-Andalus was the greatest civilisation in Europe. The works and translations of Al-Andalus and all of the Islamic world provided the basis for Europe's renaissance.
They translated and wrote commentaries in the works of Classical Greek philosophers like Aristotle and Plato and Islamic scholars like Averroes, Avicenna, ibn al-Nafis, al-Biruni and ibn al-Haytham and Al-Khwarizmi provided the basis for the renaissance.
@truebeliever786 it's funny how different things are now. The muslim world is backwards, superstitious, they think there's a god and angels and jinns, and they can't stop killing each other. While Europe has pretty much ditched religion. Europe owes everything to secularism. Islam has done nothing for Europe.
The success of medieval Islamic sciences owe everything to the ancient greek-roman-persian world.
"The success of medieval Islamic sciences owe everything to the ancient greek-roman-persian world."
That's a myth. See the BBC documentary (a western, not Islamic documentary): 'An Islamic History of Europe' on youtube.
It was the works of the Muslims and Jews in Al-Andalus and Sicily that were mainly responsible for the rise of the Renaissance and Renaissance science was based on Islamic science and philosophy. That's a fact. Islam has done everything for Europe to progress.
"The success of medieval Islamic sciences owe everything to the ancient greek-roman-persian world."
Sorry I misread that. That statement is correct. I acknowledge that. And the success of European science owes Islam, which innovated the sciences of the Greek, Roman and Persian world. Islam taught us to gain knowledge from all the world and we did that and expanded and innovated it. Yes we are backwards now, because of dictators that rule us, but our people have risen against them just recently.
@leptismagna10 It was beyond that, as far as China. Muhammed even ordained his followers to seek knowledge as far as China. Arabs were conduits of Knowledge, not so much discoverers themselves.
The Visigoth kingdom at the time was more afraid of the Franks on their Northern border, than a bunch of what they probably believed to be raiders and pirates from Africa. Therefore, the best troops would have been stationed in the North. Tariq ibn Ziyad evidently had an easy job laying low a bunch of inexperienced recruits, supported by a handful of nobles and their bodyguards. Achievable, even when shorthanded. Also, there were many people competing for the throne, destabilizing the area.
Tarik ibn ZYAD born in 689 ad ,near the town of Khenchla ,the AURES mountain ,,east of ALGERIA ,,,Musa ibn nusayr the designed ruler of north Africa had choosen Tarik ibn Zyad as the commander in chief of the muslim army ,instead of the two sons of 3Okba ibn nafe3 (burried in east Algeria) ,,,,,,,
Under the orders of the Great Umayyad Caliph Al-Walid I, Tariq ibn-Ziyad and Musa Ibn Nusair led a small force that landed at Gibraltar on April 30, 711. After a decisive victory at the Battle of Guadalete on July 19, 711, Tariq ibn-Ziyad brought most of the Iberian Peninsula under Islam in a seven-year campaign. Happy 1,300 anniversary Andalusia !
LES ESPANGNOL ET LES PORTUGAIS ONT DU SANG ARAB ET BERBERE IL SE SONT FAIT COLONISER PUIS PLUS TARD IL ONT COLONISER AMERIQUE LATINE MEXIQUE,BRESIL etc.... par conclusion l'amerique latine a aussi du sang arabe berbere car ce sont les espagnol/portugais qui les sont coloniser ...
@awayger You know the term "black" is a western term and gives off a very negative connotation around the world. I'm "black" but only in the social political sense because my skin tone is far from black. Moors came from old Mauretania (Magreb) and included Amazigh, Arabs, and "black" Gnawa and other "black" converts. People often get confused and think automatically "black" like a Nigerian or Central African. Africa is fascinating ppl need to do more research.
@osiruskat Assalamalaikum brother I don't think any succesful black muslim general ever existed. We muslims have a proud history pawning the blacks in battle until they excepted Islam
@smithbrain That my be so in the case of Moroccan Kings and their Black Guard, but are you saying that the Mali Empire with King Mansa Musa1, as well as, the Songhai Empire were not successful. You know Ethiopian Empire were never conquered by Muslims, some just converted.
I ask the silly excuses Ylahumanidad East, xenophobic is a pathological liar who only get into trouble, as I have noticed. It is an illiterate or who do not bother much with it.
Im andalusian. In fact, Spain did not exist at that time. Andalusia was an independent empire CORDOBA, own history, own culture, and did not belong to Spain, which was the northern peninsula.
Spain = christians, situation=northern iberia
Andalusia=muslims,christians and jews, situation= south and center of the peninsula
@ylahumanidad ha ha ha "big" lesson of "istori" and "yeografi". Phoenicians and tartésics peoples (southwest and south of Iberia) require the return of their lands stolen by the Romans!. ha ha ha The Andalusians we stole the land"" HA HA HA
There were over 400 000 Christian insurgents but most were very sickly because Europe at the time was very disease ridden, Christanity had forbidden bathing. Majority of the Christian insurgents suffered lung disease due to constant burning of women at the stake aswell as burning of books. Thats why Europe was referred to as the "Dark Continent" due to high lovel of smog.
@ylahumanidad emire almoravides son bereberes de marruecos , almohades son bereberes de marruecos , el rey ben ziri tambien ........ le hemos enseñado 8 siglos de civilizacion , todo el mundo lo sabe
@TheZiri1 A ver, hijo de puta, Marruecos es un estado moderno. Los almoravides, bereberes, almohades etc NO SON MARROQUIES, pedazo de hijo de puta.
Andalucía fue un EMIRATO y un CALIFATO INDEPENDIENTE. Nosotros te hemos enseñado a ti, mono, lo que es la civilización. ERAN ANDALUCES y lucharon por Su tierra, no por MARRUECOS.
@ylahumanidad vaya, vaya, el xenofovo ultranacionalista sin patria.. mmm que lamentable espectaculo vas dando, que mal dejas a los ESPAÑOLES.Por que eres español, sabes? Seguramente de ascendencia gallega, vasca o aragoinesa, vete a saber.
No hay peor patetismo que el del que no sabe de donde es y lo que es!
@Eminonna Disculpa, si un andaluz es de procedencia vasca, deja de ser andaluz? ¿Qué tiene que ver el componente biológico/étnico con la realidad cultural? Es bastante llamativo que te interese tanto nuestra historia, la de Andalucía, y hables aparentando saber cuando en realidad no eres más que otro de esos ignorantes que llama "árabes" a los andaluces de religión musulmana. Por mucho que os cueste asimilarlo, Andalucía llegó a ser una potencia mundial económica y cultural.
@mierdasforu supongo que no estas en el hilo de la discusion, si no te habrias dado cuenta que solo le estaba tomando calentando lso cascos a Ylahumanidad, un xenofobo vestido de flamenco. Muestrame en donde haya llamado "arabe" a los andaluces musulmanes -que tienen todo mi respeto y consideracion-, me encantaria verlo!. Creo que o no estas en el hilo o has venido a ahogarte en la playa. En fin, a ver que sale de todo esto. MIentras, visulaiza mis videos a ver si ves que hago eso que dices
@TheZiri1 Disculpa, ¿QUÉ? Ustedes nos han enseñado 8 siglos de civilización? pero si ustedes son lo más atrasado de África. Marruecos es un país de mierda con un dictador que aspira a ser rey y no es mas que un corrupto. Ni los almohades eran marroquies, ni los bereberes son marroquies. La prueba es que los amazigh os odian hasta la muerte. El norte de África perteneció al imperio andaluz, un emirato independiente y que fue el creador de la civilizacion mas avanzada. Puto marroqui d mierda.
@mierdasforu eso que os han enseñado en el pais de racismo españa hhhhhh , todos el mundo saben que somos marroquies y que hemos aportado a los catetos de pueblo la civilizacion . viva franco jajaja españa arriba jajaj vaya verguenza
@TheZiri1 EL 70 POR CIENTO SON BERBERES EN MARRUECOS POR QUE VAMOS A ODIAR A SI MISMOS . JAJA Y SI LOS A ALMOHADES NO SON MARROQUIES NI BERBERES POR QUE HABLABAN BERBER Y ÁRABE POR ESPETO AL CORAN , SIN NOSOTRO NO VALEIS NADA JAJA,
In Islamic history, the enemy is always greater in number than the Muslim forces. In almost every battle, the odds were against the Muslim army and they always emerged the victors! Alhamdulillah.
@kolishnikov74 Well, that's why it's called "Islamic history" and not simply HISTORY! Muslim historians always exaggerated in order to show that they had won thanks to "divine favor" and not simply because they were at least as numerous as their enemies, if not even more numerous...
@kolishnikov74 You get your facts straight, let's just take the last claim for instance... As Wikipedia states, Muslim sources claim the numbers of their opponents to be up to 400.000 while modern estimates range between 15.000-100.000. That's quite a discrepancy...
@unapologeticmind Arab and Christian chronicles of that time is much documentary and historical credibility as the Thousand and One Nights (Arab Nights, ألف ليلة وليلة Alf layla wa-layla). They had no vocation of historians, lying was acceptable if it was good to his cause. Only served to make propaganda of their God and their leaders and no one today takes seriously as a source of historical information.
@Rbigray1 Assalamalaikum Its true large parts of africa is muslim today. But to compare Timbuktu to Baghdad is way out of line. Timbuktu was nothing more then a large tow before the frontier and Baghdad was the capital. Another thing I am not aware of any black muslim general conquering lands for islam however I am aware of turkish, indian and arab generals conquering lands for islam. So just because the moors were from north africa does'nt mean they were black.
My ancestry is Spaniard. Moors are blacks from Mauritania and the west coast of Africa. Spanish people know that those who came into Spain were N. African and were of Arab/Berber stock. The term Moor was a deragatory name to call them since they came from Africa. It was used like the N word is said to blacks in the U.S. Today they're no longer referred to as Moors but terrorists and that's directed to all Muslims around the world, so that they'd be looked down on as they were then.
@therawtalent what theory? There's lots of racism in Spain the darker skinned ones know where they got that from. So whatever you meant, you're talking to the wrong person... don't need to reply. Thank You ; )
The trouble with Spanish people is that they have an inferiority complex. They are darker than the average european so they try to take the piss on colored people. Just for our own record, Mediterranean countries are all blessed with darker skin whether you like it or not.
@therawtalent They don't have an inferiority complex. Their situation is political/economical. If a migration of people affects that economy people there feel displaced. In the US it happens. Americans feel afflicted when it comes to immigrants. It's a universal situation, like you said, to take it out on others. You migrate to a nation after a while you're under pressure because those there, feel more entitlement compared to those who just got there. Most immigranst are in needed situations.
Well you are talking about the same case scenario when it comes to Spanish people. How many have left the country to better their lives? They are hated as much. It takes both ways.
It is not true that the economic situation makes people hate one another. certainly it adds fuel to the crisis but the root of the problem is colonial. Muslims ruled Spain for centuries and that has left a bitter taste in every spanish mouth.
@therawtalent that is not true in every Spaniard its left a bitter taste. Visit S. Spain. Not all families i know feel that way. My family doesn't feel that way. Not everyone in Spain is with the church either. People saw what happened in the last 100 years how many Spaniards under Franco were oppressed, starved and murdered the fear and terror to live then. Many families were displaced. In our history it has been economical. In S. Spain alot of Fandangos speaks of the beauty of the Moors.
@enchilada01 That's universal. Indians and S. Indians compared to Pakistanis feel inferior. In latin American countries indigenous or of negro decent feel the same. In the Arab world same thing goes. In Africa certain tribes feel more superior and entitled then others. It goes on and on but I've met many people of different cultures and nationalities and it's not everybody. Not everyone feels inferior to a certain group and not everyone feels or thinks they're superior.
@ForeroFlower You are right! It was colonialism that made it widespread. Ive heard Spanish boast that Southamericans say that people are better looking in Spain than in America. However it is in the eye of the beholder, those comments are nothing more than biased colonial mentality and rather ignorant. Cheers!
@enchilada01 I know. The moorish ones are the divine ones compared to the North. No offense ; ) Same goes with Italians and S. Europeans the darker ones are the darling ones. Big eyes thick lash and brows. We were conquered. The first mixed off-spring was through Spanish women. God Bless them they couldn't help it... I understand JAJAJA !
@Rbigray1 im just sick and tired of these dumb afrocentrists who falsify our history while they were always slaves, and NO there was no black moor,they were always slaves
The Berbers of North Africa have always been used by the arabs in the name of the Quran until the present days. Egyptians used the berbers of Algeria to fight against their war against Israel. (the war of 6 days 1967). It's time for Imazighen to be proud of the religion of their ancestors, ONE GOD, the one who isn't muslim, christian or.... the God of universe, the one who never spoke to anyone, appeared to anyone. BE STRONG AND UNITED, GET RID OF YOUR FEARS OF ALLAH AND HYPOCRITE ARABS.
@larbaanathirathen11 go bury urself zombie zionist shill agent lolo hahaha.. we embrace islam dnt need any explanation from zionists shills, tellin us from the states or izrakill 2 abide satan too? tellin us our histroy? tarik ibn ziad is needed more then ever bitches.. alkatabi 4 life; 3000 of ma muslim freedom frighters= busted 15.000 of ur kind of whores understand friggin snitch? go tell that crap where they take it from ya, not here rememba buh snikey devo crap not allowed
Here is the truth: The poor Imazighen have been used by the bloody arabs with their magic religious poems, they pushed them in the name of Allah to go take islam to Europe while the arabs were hidding and laughing at them. The arabs screwed the berbers big time. It's very sad to say that until today the berbers are so scare of the Allah of the arabs. why? because they cut the heads of their kings first then they played them music and balley dancing. The berbers are naive people.
TANEMIRTH AGMA (means thank you in berber amazigh language )wich of course u dont know u stupid piece of black shits becuz ure not north african berber imazighen and u will never be, keep falsifiyin history u dumb niggers
IM MOROCAN AND IM NOT BLACK, BLACKS HAVE ALWAYS BEEN SLAVES IN MOROCO AND EVEN THERE ARE STILL SOME SLAVES IN THE MOROCAN ROYAL PALACE.MOORS TRADED BLACK SLAVES RIGHT, BUT HOW CAN HAVE THEY COULD THEY DO THAT IF THEY WERE THEMSELVES BLACK ?? DO THEY ENSLAVED THEIR OWN RACE ?? PLEASE SHUT UP
FOR ALL THE STUPID AFROCENTRISITS OVER HERE : PLEASE SHUT THE FUCK UP !! MOORS NORTH AFRICAN BERBERS WERE NOT BLACK, THEY ARE NOT BLACK RIGHT NOW , AND WILL NEVER BE BLACK . END OF STORY U STUPID HISTORY STEALERS !! GOLIVE IN UR BANTU JUNGLES AND ULL SEE WHAT "GLORIOUS" CIVILIZATION U HAVE OVER THERE !!
tarik was described as as black as ink. Tarik was described as even darker still. Tarik wasn't much darker than his moorish brethren it was because he rode in on a white horse that made him seem so much darker.
Espana did not exist before the WisGoth were germanic people from the north and the spanish name and latino were made by Fridric the erman king and made them speaking Dialekt latin, because the spanish for him were just caucassian people who immigrated in Ibiria. Spanish latino came from Russia before to live in Spain they have no identity and Spain was always colony of the Berber from Massinissa, Hanibal and Tarek iben Ziad the new converter muslim. Spain live now under the protection of US
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shablg 5 days ago
whether you're arab or berber is not important, as long as you're muslim
werdeswa 1 week ago
@rounds28 There is no genetic evidence of Arabs in North Africa, so we can not talk about Arabs in North Africa at all.
zizouzenati 2 weeks ago
In response to your comment why do black people want to be Berbers? Berbers are a mixed race around (3000) years ago Arabs ventured out of (West and North Asia) into Africa and mated with Blacks. North African Arabs that did not MIXwith blacks are called to this day Arabs and not Berbers. Why do people like you obsess with Africans and Asians.
ReadMeatForYou 1 month ago
@ReadMeatForYou That would be lying to ourselves if we said we're just Arab. When really like you said arabs mixed with blacks, when infact it was white berbers mixed with black berbers, cause Arabs were too busy trying to make us slaves. North Africa is more Berber blooded than Arab. We are mainly African. So it would be real ignorant to say we only speak Arabic, we are just Arab and we deny our true African heritage.
2PAINFULLNIGGA 3 weeks ago
@ReadMeatForYou Where did you got that information from? Your stupid kind is making this here up and what us to believe you> Where is your evidence. Berbers you stupid Moron have a histroy which goes more then 6000 years back. The DNA data abot North African, Sub Sharan Africans, Asians,. Europeans is welknown and available on net. Do you think peopel are stupid. We all can read and write, we all know you are full of shit.
zizouzenati 2 weeks ago
salam
asfaltwalker 1 month ago
@asfaltwalker deffo = definitely = agreed with you
sheepgamer1 1 month ago
The Berber Muslim conquered Spain successfully like real warriors and real men and the Arabs messed everything up. Such a pity!!! But does not matter, everything has a reason. Allah u Akbar, peace out
abcdgeenidee 1 month ago
@mulud85: Tu parles Français ? Parceque j'ai rien compris,juste tuer les arabes !!! pourtant tu t'appelles Mulud donc c'est Mouloud .
ALGERIANKABYLE 1 month ago
@elgazar99: Salamu Alaikum Brother , Thank you very much for greetings, I send u greetings too and for all Arabs and Non-arabs Muslims, and sure for All Muslims Brothers all over the world. May Allah bless all Uma Mohamed ( PBUH) Insh'Allah . Assalamu Alaikum. Greetings from Paris .
ALGERIANKABYLE 1 month ago
il aura fait meurs de tue les arabes
mulud85 1 month ago
I'm Amazigh Muslim, and I'm proud . Hamdu Lillah .
ALGERIANKABYLE 1 month ago
@ALGERIANKABYLE Greetings from an Arab Muslim to you and All Amazigh Muslim brothers !
elgazar99 1 month ago
@elgazar99 aselam greeting back brother arab muslim from an amazigh lol
sheepgamer1 1 month ago
the most important think is that small number of a Muslim army could defeat a much biger army of any kingdom or race in that times...means Muslims were great and now are real assholes..do you agree brothers? salam aleykum..
asfaltwalker 2 months ago
@asfaltwalker yeah yeah winning armies always claim they defeated much bigger armies, im not saying thats always wrong but...the winners write most of the history. We portuguese also have many battles where we claim to done the same...but who knows and who cares? facts are who won and who lost.
esmifrado 2 months ago
@esmifrado yes !!!
mulud85 1 month ago
@asfaltwalker yea deffo
sheepgamer1 1 month ago
@sheepgamer1 deffo?
asfaltwalker 1 month ago
The problem for North Africa came from the Arab Muslim conquest that from mixing religion with militarism, like the Christians will do later as "Crusade" will be splitted apart from the Western Classic Cultures and Mediterranean Civilization it belonged to and shared with Europe. Thank the goat herding Semitic Asians for that, at some point they recognized and preserved Egyptian/Greek Arts and Wisdom but their religious zealots burned books and with it went back to goatherding.
pendragonU 2 months ago
black dosen't mean African negro alway's black is a skin colour it can be any dark race of people it should not alway's be associated with african negro's because that's just sterotyping people there not the only dark skinned people in the world i hate when people say that western bs my dad's black skinned my friend's are blacked skinned does that mean there african negro no even tho they have the pigment.!!!
OVHELL696 3 months ago
my friend supermike, the berbers that populated north africa region are described as mediterannean, yes there was blacks that made up a proportion of the army, but it was made up of mainly berbers, i am berber and so is my whole family, you can see the berbers today, they have been described in history books, yes there was blacks of course as this is AFRICA, however its wrong to claim tarik was black, the black berbers were only black cos they adopted the berber language and way of life
princemeknes 3 months ago
Tariq had to be a much darker hue.
north africa around this time still had darker skin population. get the history right
supermike2164 3 months ago
@supermike2164 Why do black people so eagerly want berbers to be black?Are you so desperate?African black history is rich by itself you don't have to make up things so that you feel black people achieved something! I'm berber and i'm originally from the atlas mountains and when I go there,there is very little influence of the western world they live isolated en traditionally!So if berbers where black I would see it there.Berber resemble Latin Americans in colour,we are brown,not black nor white!
Muslim2100 3 months ago
@supermike2164 Example: I am berber and I speak dutch, does that mean that all Belgian people are berbers because I and many other berbers speak Dutch?? -_-"sounds stupid doesn't it, but that's what you are saying.There are black that integrated in the berber way of life but that doesn't mean they are true berbers.But Alhamdoullilah islam comes 1 then our culture.Black, white,yellow or brown that doesn't matter.In our way religion comes first I just respond because I hate lies and fake people;-)
Muslim2100 3 months ago
@Muslim2100 yes it may offend you the way we americans use our perspective when we comment on your culture but understanding is a two way street. Therefore if you understand that our idea of black isn't the same as your idea of blacks then we may have less frustration. Because I AM NOT SAYING THAT ALL BERBERS ARE BLACKS. I myself have a carmel brown tone but I am considered black in this country because of my dominant heritage.
supermike2164 3 months ago
@supermike2164 With other words anything that isn't white, is considered to be black??
We have a word for caramel brown.. Mulat.
But I understand the frustration of many black people.. History is manipulated allot, especially that of Africans and MUSLIMS. But we should focus on the future and leave the past, that will be more profitable for us ;)
The future can change, the past can not.. .
Muslim2100 3 months ago
@Muslim2100 now you calling me a "Mulat" sounds close to mullato which to americans means one white parent and one black parent. which is offensive to me because both of my parents are black people all 4 of my grandparents are black people my father is just darker than my mom who is the same tone as myself.
No anything that has enough black heritage to SHOW is considered black in america. mexicans, indians, asians some are darker than some blacks they aren't black because of heritage
supermike2164 3 months ago
@Muslim2100now the past cannot actually change but our UNDERSTANDING of the lessons of the past changes all the time. Also the past is revealed all the time and the understanding of the past is what helps to CHANGE the future.
supermike2164 3 months ago
@Muslim2100 many berbers are not blacks but what may be very confusing to you is that people from the american side of the planet consider anyone who has enough Black blood a black person (has little to do with skin tone) for example someone like Tom Joyner is considered a black man. Where you are from he may be considered Arab. So what I am saying is that at that time dark brown and black people were more plentiful in this area. Yes it is important for us 2 see this represented
supermike2164 3 months ago
@supermike2164 i know one thing .that berber are africains.
so they history and civilisation are both africains.
sujt like russians and greecs and italians and islands they are all europeans.
masinisa was more white to general tarik but he was the first to say africa fo africains.thank you and god bless africains and musulams. tizi ouzou .
mulud85 2 months ago
tariq ibne ziyad single handedly conquere whole spain.
mark12345678965 4 months ago
why we dont see them talk about subsahara their true homeland?
newnumide 4 months ago
newnumide 4 months ago
THIS IS A JOKE OF THE MILLENIUM!!!
I live in MALI and the BERBERS FROM MALI look like WESLEY snipes or OBAMA.
these are "HOLLYWOOD" BERBERS who are really "modern arabs" or CENTRAL ASIAN TURKS.
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REAL BERBERS were BLACK (since they ruled in EUROPE for 700 yrs eventually they MIXED with WHITE women for 700 yrs and now most of them in MOROCCO and MALI (REAL BERBERS) look like OBAMA or T.I. the rapper.
TRUTH SHALL SET YOU FREE!!!
Greetings from MALI:)
dogons2k12 4 months ago
@dogons2k12 Negrito maricón quieres hacer tus sueños realidad y te morderás la polla en tu frustracion pues los que invadieron la península eran de extracción Bereberes o Amazigh.asi que ya sabes a leer que te hace falta,Ah! y te quiero aclarar que me gustan las negras y mulatas siempre y cuando no les hayan extirpado el clítoris.
sarsanch 4 months ago
@sarsanch mbenge ni bot ba sone ni yom ni yara, ata be di mbe ni sure ... LMAOF
Mbong ni jeb MALI!!
LMAOF
dogons2k12 4 months ago
@dogons2k12 Don't you understand Spanish? I just said little nigger queer you are making your dreams a reality and you'll bite your dick in frustration since those who invaded Spain were of Amazigh origins or Berbers if you prefer and I'll suggest that you read about this history because you need it and by the way I like Black and mulatto girls but whole with clitoris and everything, complete no fouling around here,so sorry the Spaniards don't have Negros from Mali but I can make you some!!!
sarsanch 4 months ago
@sarsanch Don't you understand BASSA?
your KRAKKER time is over and you are just little neanderthal fagot with no history who got RULED by the so called "NEGROES" for almost 800 yrs. CHECK Your DNA ... LMAOF you have me in your BLOOD ... LMAOF
No wonder southern Europeanderthals have bigger DICKS than your neanderthal cousins in the north ... HAhehehhe
watch?v=_R-0MyTsmiU
watch?v=f7FnTGU0-3A&feature=related
ne mbong ni samal ye bis SPAIN onoye ... LMAOF
dogons2k12 4 months ago
@sarsanch Don't you understand BASSA?
your KRAKKER time is over and you are just little neanderthal fagot with no history who got RULED by the so called "NEGROES" for almost 800 yrs. CHECK Your DNA ... LMAOF you have me in your BLOOD ... LMAOF
No wonder southern Europeanderthals have bigger DICKS than your neanderthal cousins in the north ... HAhehehhe
watch?v=_R-0MyTsmiU
watch?v=f7FnTGU0-3A&feature=related
ne mbong ni samal ye bis SPAIN onoye LMAOF
dogons2k12 4 months ago
@dogons2k12 THEY JUST CANT LET GO OF THE LIES!!!...IT HURTS THEM SO MUCH...TO ADMIT THE VERY PEOPLE THEY MONKEYS,SLAVES..NIGGERS ARE THE VERY PEOPLE THAT BIRTH THEM SCHOOL AND RAISE THEM
AFRICA4AFRICANS 4 months ago
@dogons2k12 Hi bro !1 no ,no you are wrong brother. I am an algerian berber (Kabylian) and I am not black, so the berbers are mixt, it's the only race in the world that have blacks,darks,and whites. and we are all berbers. I still speak my berber language. in mali there is the berber Touareg, and in algeria too there is the touareg berber. Actually I have many friends from Mali and some of them are berbers, just they have some words different than my berber dialect. So this movie is true but ju.
avahrithilii 4 months ago
@dogons2k12 but just they should include the malien black berbers, because that time they were living all together , and without racism. Thanks
avahrithilii 4 months ago
@dogons2k12 its true that there is arabs in algeria and morocco , but we have not mixed with them until now. and if you go and read the history of berbers you will see that we were existing befor the roman and the egyptian civilizations.
avahrithilii 4 months ago
@dogons2k12
calm the fucking down afrocentric scum
you should know by now that we, the hollywood derbers, are the same berbers 1000 years ago and the same berbers 20000 years ago and we will be the same in the future. apart from the so called touareg who are not true berbers but still speak a variant berber language other that they are sub sahareens like others only - then 9% have amazigh dna.
the truth is you need to visit morocco and see how they look really before talking shit on net
newnumide 4 months ago
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@newnumide Y...A...W....N
Using Greek and Roman sources, Franck M. Snowden has pointed out that the "MAURI" (whose color received frequent notice were described as "NIGRI" (black) and "ADUSTI" (scorched).
Franck M. Snowden, Before Color Prejudice (Cambridge, MA: Havard University Press, 1983), 9.
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TRY AGAIN IDIOT ... BRING FACTS not FAIRY TALES
dogons2k12 4 months ago
@bogarde515 Many Spaniards of today have Berber and Arab ancestors (genetic studies are clear), and far more have Andalusi ancestors in general (think that most of Andalusis weren't Berber nor Arab but simply islamized and arabized Iberians).
Almanzzor 5 months ago
@bogarde515 Open a book please. Saying that Islam hasn't given anything to Spain is like saying that Christianism hasn't given anything to Europe. Besides what do you mean with buildinsg and scale ?
Almanzzor 5 months ago
@bogarde515 I never desire for Muslims to reconquer Spain nor is that my dream.
I'm just saying that Muslims did contribute enormously to western civilisation and that's a fact, a full fact.
Yes, they used the works of the Romans and the Greeks, but Europe in turn, used the works of the Muslims as a foundation for the Renaissance. The science, art, architecture and medicine of the renaissance was based on the works of the Muslims and the Classical Greeks and Romans as well. That's a fact.
truebeliever786 5 months ago
@bogarde515 The Teruel Cathedtral, the Tower of Santa Maria, the Mudejar Castle of La Mota, the San Pedro Church and sooo many other famous national pieces of architecture in Spain were built by Muslims, during the times Christians took back all but Granada.
The Christians hired Muslim workers, called Mudejars, to build, because they were the best craftsmen, while the Christians didn't know shit about craft. And this is just architecture, many other places exist, like art, medicine and maths.
truebeliever786 5 months ago
@truebeliever786 And if you put on a scale Arab buildings, and put in another balance Christian buildings ... who wins? Christian buildings 99%, 1% Arab constructions
bogarde515 5 months ago
@bogarde515 common ancestry sir common ancestries ;P
3tangle3 5 months ago
Imazighen <3
Muslim <3
Andalusian <3
katieAran1987 5 months ago
@bogarde515 you are ignorant and that ignorance shows how stupid you are .
you people always change the real history and facts because you can't handle the truth.
aziz79 5 months ago
@bogarde515 Islamic works from Toledo and Cordoba after were used. The works of the Muslims were taken there, translated from Arabic into Latin and into many other languages and they were circulated all over Europe. Works of medicine, poetry, art, architecture, irrigation and much more influenced European culture like hell. Even after the reconquista, Spain's Monarchs employed Muslims in architecture. Spain's famous Christian monuments were built by Muslims in the Islamic style, that's a fact.
truebeliever786 5 months ago
@bogarde515 That is utter bullshit.
The works of the Romans and Greeks was advanced upon by the Muslims. And Muslims preserved the works of the Greeks, like Aristotle, Archimedes etc... and progressed on it.
Ibn an-Nafis discovered pulmonary circulation of the heart, a concept vital to heart surgery today and ibn Buqaqis discovered a cure to a specific eye-disease, used until World War 1 by the West, so don't talk shit. Muslims contributed loads to science and progress, more than nearly anyone
truebeliever786 5 months ago
imazighen
tiziouzou2000 5 months ago
@bogarde515 Not really, they left a legacy of tolerance and multiculturalism generally, although at times, shit happens, as they say, because corrupt rulers like the Moravids and Mohads took power.
Yes, all the stuff was done thanks to Greco-Roman advancement, but then all the advancements of the Muslims in Toledo, Cordoba and Granada were done thanks to the Muslims and these vital sources of information provided Europe the basis of knowledge for the renaissance...
truebeliever786 5 months ago
@bogarde515 I am not on about the recent muslim islamised bebers..............I MEAN the descendants of the berbers who came into iberia 10s of 1000s of years ago............not the recent berbers... btw spain and its state is heavily latinised and sadly lost its ibero-celtic cultures due to harsh roman oppression
3tangle3 5 months ago
the basques are probably descended from the pre muslim berbers of proper ancient times.....and so are a part of the "spanish"...thats the irony.....just killing each other over made up gods is so sad
3tangle3 6 months ago
haha the BERBEEEERSSSS
AbuHorairatje 6 months ago
what the movie name from which these video clips were used...
Ajaybullah 8 months ago
@Ajaybullah Cities of lights
qasion 7 months ago
my people!!!
shotsnhops 8 months ago
0:45-0:48 - Those spears look the best. Those have to be the best spears I've ever seen.
truebeliever786 8 months ago
Al-Andalus was the greatest civilisation in Europe. The works and translations of Al-Andalus and all of the Islamic world provided the basis for Europe's renaissance.
They translated and wrote commentaries in the works of Classical Greek philosophers like Aristotle and Plato and Islamic scholars like Averroes, Avicenna, ibn al-Nafis, al-Biruni and ibn al-Haytham and Al-Khwarizmi provided the basis for the renaissance.
Europe owes everything to the Islamic world.
truebeliever786 8 months ago
@truebeliever786 it's funny how different things are now. The muslim world is backwards, superstitious, they think there's a god and angels and jinns, and they can't stop killing each other. While Europe has pretty much ditched religion. Europe owes everything to secularism. Islam has done nothing for Europe.
The success of medieval Islamic sciences owe everything to the ancient greek-roman-persian world.
leptismagna10 8 months ago
@leptismagna10
"The success of medieval Islamic sciences owe everything to the ancient greek-roman-persian world."
That's a myth. See the BBC documentary (a western, not Islamic documentary): 'An Islamic History of Europe' on youtube.
It was the works of the Muslims and Jews in Al-Andalus and Sicily that were mainly responsible for the rise of the Renaissance and Renaissance science was based on Islamic science and philosophy. That's a fact. Islam has done everything for Europe to progress.
truebeliever786 8 months ago
"The success of medieval Islamic sciences owe everything to the ancient greek-roman-persian world."
Sorry I misread that. That statement is correct. I acknowledge that. And the success of European science owes Islam, which innovated the sciences of the Greek, Roman and Persian world. Islam taught us to gain knowledge from all the world and we did that and expanded and innovated it. Yes we are backwards now, because of dictators that rule us, but our people have risen against them just recently.
truebeliever786 8 months ago
@leptismagna10 It was beyond that, as far as China. Muhammed even ordained his followers to seek knowledge as far as China. Arabs were conduits of Knowledge, not so much discoverers themselves.
kumarsa108 6 months ago
@leptismagna10 Sound just like Christians,how wars?
odephraimchai 5 months ago
The Visigoth kingdom at the time was more afraid of the Franks on their Northern border, than a bunch of what they probably believed to be raiders and pirates from Africa. Therefore, the best troops would have been stationed in the North. Tariq ibn Ziyad evidently had an easy job laying low a bunch of inexperienced recruits, supported by a handful of nobles and their bodyguards. Achievable, even when shorthanded. Also, there were many people competing for the throne, destabilizing the area.
jannevellamo 9 months ago
Great muslims warriors,,,I pray to the almighty to bless this Ummah with such Muslims again.
qasion 9 months ago
Tarik ibn ZYAD born in 689 ad ,near the town of Khenchla ,the AURES mountain ,,east of ALGERIA ,,,Musa ibn nusayr the designed ruler of north Africa had choosen Tarik ibn Zyad as the commander in chief of the muslim army ,instead of the two sons of 3Okba ibn nafe3 (burried in east Algeria) ,,,,,,,
trrinita 9 months ago
@trrinita
TARIK IBN ZYAD is father of boutef now?
pilofirass 7 months ago
Under the orders of the Great Umayyad Caliph Al-Walid I, Tariq ibn-Ziyad and Musa Ibn Nusair led a small force that landed at Gibraltar on April 30, 711. After a decisive victory at the Battle of Guadalete on July 19, 711, Tariq ibn-Ziyad brought most of the Iberian Peninsula under Islam in a seven-year campaign. Happy 1,300 anniversary Andalusia !
ForeroFlower 10 months ago
Tariq Bi Ziyad and others are the beuty of ISLAM, they are our proud God will forgive our mistakes in respect of these. May Allah rest them in peace.
mrhashmi2010 10 months ago
LES ESPANGNOL ET LES PORTUGAIS ONT DU SANG ARAB ET BERBERE IL SE SONT FAIT COLONISER PUIS PLUS TARD IL ONT COLONISER AMERIQUE LATINE MEXIQUE,BRESIL etc.... par conclusion l'amerique latine a aussi du sang arabe berbere car ce sont les espagnol/portugais qui les sont coloniser ...
Lounio1 10 months ago
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Lounio1 10 months ago
where are the black moors it was black moors and arabs and berbers who went to spain
antwanrogers 11 months ago
@antwanrogers
moors where not black,
moors ment in the roman times a moroccan.
and in medieval times it ment muslim from africa (black or white)
black muslim(from ancient sudan) came later to al andalus with the almoravid dynasty.
the first conquest where only imazighen/berbers with a handfull of arabs.
awayger 11 months ago
@awayger You know the term "black" is a western term and gives off a very negative connotation around the world. I'm "black" but only in the social political sense because my skin tone is far from black. Moors came from old Mauretania (Magreb) and included Amazigh, Arabs, and "black" Gnawa and other "black" converts. People often get confused and think automatically "black" like a Nigerian or Central African. Africa is fascinating ppl need to do more research.
osiruskat 10 months ago
@osiruskat
i agree,
bye
awayger 10 months ago
@osiruskat agreed =)
Khan12078 9 months ago
@osiruskat Assalamalaikum brother I don't think any succesful black muslim general ever existed. We muslims have a proud history pawning the blacks in battle until they excepted Islam
smithbrain 9 months ago
@smithbrain That my be so in the case of Moroccan Kings and their Black Guard, but are you saying that the Mali Empire with King Mansa Musa1, as well as, the Songhai Empire were not successful. You know Ethiopian Empire were never conquered by Muslims, some just converted.
osiruskat 9 months ago
viva España blanca y cristiana hijos de iberos, celtas, visigodos, y pueblos germanicos
Marcialetas 11 months ago
@Marcialetas Son Espanoles son Morros rubios.
edthewise 10 months ago
long live the Berbers salam from Djibouti Somalia
HerroHerrar 11 months ago
I ask the silly excuses Ylahumanidad East, xenophobic is a pathological liar who only get into trouble, as I have noticed. It is an illiterate or who do not bother much with it.
Eminonna 11 months ago
@Eminonna EMINONNA = SPANIARD SON OF A BITCH, EUROPEAN OPPRESSOR, ZIONIST.
FUCK YOU SPANIARD SHIT. FUCK YOU. YOUR COUNTRY DESTROYED AL-ANDALUS. SPANIARDS DESTROYED ANDALUSIA.
ylahumanidad 11 months ago
Im andalusian. In fact, Spain did not exist at that time. Andalusia was an independent empire CORDOBA, own history, own culture, and did not belong to Spain, which was the northern peninsula.
Spain = christians, situation=northern iberia
Andalusia=muslims,christians and jews, situation= south and center of the peninsula
WE ARE NOT SPANIARDS
ylahumanidad 11 months ago
@ylahumanidad ha ha ha "big" lesson of "istori" and "yeografi". Phoenicians and tartésics peoples (southwest and south of Iberia) require the return of their lands stolen by the Romans!. ha ha ha The Andalusians we stole the land"" HA HA HA
Eminonna 11 months ago
@Eminonna FUCK SPAIN
SPAIN DESTROYED ANDALUSIAN CIVILIZATION
FUCK YOU, RACIST
SPANIARDS = NAZIS
ylahumanidad 11 months ago
Masihi tak guna tu pengecut!!
elazar79 11 months ago
There were over 400 000 Christian insurgents but most were very sickly because Europe at the time was very disease ridden, Christanity had forbidden bathing. Majority of the Christian insurgents suffered lung disease due to constant burning of women at the stake aswell as burning of books. Thats why Europe was referred to as the "Dark Continent" due to high lovel of smog.
BlackTorchCreations 11 months ago
alaho akbar viva los amazigh , viva morocco , viva ben ziyad y ben tachfin ....... la civilizacion de los libres ( amazighe) 1961 am
TheZiri1 1 year ago
@TheZiri1 Viva Morocco? FUCK YOU
ylahumanidad 11 months ago
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ylahumanidad 11 months ago
@ylahumanidad ja ja ja Ylainhumanidad haciendo el vandaluz por intenet, haciendo "amigos", ja ja ja
xenofobo de pacotilla, hincha del Betis tenias que ser, y del Sevilla al dia siguiente.
No, si tontolculo tiene que haber en todos lados, hasta en ingles
Eminonna 11 months ago
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ylahumanidad 11 months ago
@ylahumanidad emire almoravides son bereberes de marruecos , almohades son bereberes de marruecos , el rey ben ziri tambien ........ le hemos enseñado 8 siglos de civilizacion , todo el mundo lo sabe
TheZiri1 11 months ago
@TheZiri1 A ver, hijo de puta, Marruecos es un estado moderno. Los almoravides, bereberes, almohades etc NO SON MARROQUIES, pedazo de hijo de puta.
Andalucía fue un EMIRATO y un CALIFATO INDEPENDIENTE. Nosotros te hemos enseñado a ti, mono, lo que es la civilización. ERAN ANDALUCES y lucharon por Su tierra, no por MARRUECOS.
Hijo de puta bastardo. Mono marroquí
ylahumanidad 11 months ago
@ylahumanidad vaya, vaya, el xenofovo ultranacionalista sin patria.. mmm que lamentable espectaculo vas dando, que mal dejas a los ESPAÑOLES.Por que eres español, sabes? Seguramente de ascendencia gallega, vasca o aragoinesa, vete a saber.
No hay peor patetismo que el del que no sabe de donde es y lo que es!
Eminonna 11 months ago
@Eminonna jaaaaaaaaaajajajajajajaja al final recurres a la misma argumentación filofascista, los orígenes biológicos jajajaja
por fin has revelado tu auténtico rostro, imbécil y patán español de mierrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrda
¡VIVA ANDALUCÍA LIBRE!
ylahumanidad 11 months ago
@Eminonna Disculpa, si un andaluz es de procedencia vasca, deja de ser andaluz? ¿Qué tiene que ver el componente biológico/étnico con la realidad cultural? Es bastante llamativo que te interese tanto nuestra historia, la de Andalucía, y hables aparentando saber cuando en realidad no eres más que otro de esos ignorantes que llama "árabes" a los andaluces de religión musulmana. Por mucho que os cueste asimilarlo, Andalucía llegó a ser una potencia mundial económica y cultural.
mierdasforu 11 months ago
@mierdasforu supongo que no estas en el hilo de la discusion, si no te habrias dado cuenta que solo le estaba tomando calentando lso cascos a Ylahumanidad, un xenofobo vestido de flamenco. Muestrame en donde haya llamado "arabe" a los andaluces musulmanes -que tienen todo mi respeto y consideracion-, me encantaria verlo!. Creo que o no estas en el hilo o has venido a ahogarte en la playa. En fin, a ver que sale de todo esto. MIentras, visulaiza mis videos a ver si ves que hago eso que dices
Eminonna 11 months ago
@TheZiri1 Disculpa, ¿QUÉ? Ustedes nos han enseñado 8 siglos de civilización? pero si ustedes son lo más atrasado de África. Marruecos es un país de mierda con un dictador que aspira a ser rey y no es mas que un corrupto. Ni los almohades eran marroquies, ni los bereberes son marroquies. La prueba es que los amazigh os odian hasta la muerte. El norte de África perteneció al imperio andaluz, un emirato independiente y que fue el creador de la civilizacion mas avanzada. Puto marroqui d mierda.
mierdasforu 11 months ago
@mierdasforu eso que os han enseñado en el pais de racismo españa hhhhhh , todos el mundo saben que somos marroquies y que hemos aportado a los catetos de pueblo la civilizacion . viva franco jajaja españa arriba jajaj vaya verguenza
TheZiri1 8 months ago
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TheZiri1 11 months ago
@TheZiri1 EL 70 POR CIENTO SON BERBERES EN MARRUECOS POR QUE VAMOS A ODIAR A SI MISMOS . JAJA Y SI LOS A ALMOHADES NO SON MARROQUIES NI BERBERES POR QUE HABLABAN BERBER Y ÁRABE POR ESPETO AL CORAN , SIN NOSOTRO NO VALEIS NADA JAJA,
TheZiri1 11 months ago
nous reviendrons libéré notre terre de la main mise de fascistes et racistes baatistes c'est une question de temps. Dieu est avec les justes.
faridatcemlulaqbayli 1 year ago
Allah uakbaar, you american bastards will never defeat the taliban who are the mujahideen
Sayfullah9 1 year ago
In Islamic history, the enemy is always greater in number than the Muslim forces. In almost every battle, the odds were against the Muslim army and they always emerged the victors! Alhamdulillah.
kolishnikov74 1 year ago
@kolishnikov74 Well, that's why it's called "Islamic history" and not simply HISTORY! Muslim historians always exaggerated in order to show that they had won thanks to "divine favor" and not simply because they were at least as numerous as their enemies, if not even more numerous...
unapologeticmind 1 year ago
@unapologeticmind
If you pull up any source, even a non-Islamic one, you will see it.
Battle of Badr: Muslims 300 - Quraish 1,000...Muslims won.
Battle of the Trench: Muslims 3,000 - Quraish 10,000...Muslims won.
Battle of Khaybar: Muslims 1,600 - Enemy 14,000...Muslims won
Battle of al-Qādisiyyah: Muslims 30,000 - Enemy 120,000...Muslims won.
Battle of Yarmouk: Muslims 24,000 - Enemy 400,000...Muslims won.
So get your facts right.
kolishnikov74 1 year ago
@kolishnikov74 You get your facts straight, let's just take the last claim for instance... As Wikipedia states, Muslim sources claim the numbers of their opponents to be up to 400.000 while modern estimates range between 15.000-100.000. That's quite a discrepancy...
unapologeticmind 1 year ago
@unapologeticmind there were actually more than 400,000. Modern estimates aren't always accurate.
kolishnikov74 1 year ago
@unapologeticmind Arab and Christian chronicles of that time is much documentary and historical credibility as the Thousand and One Nights (Arab Nights, ألف ليلة وليلة Alf layla wa-layla). They had no vocation of historians, lying was acceptable if it was good to his cause. Only served to make propaganda of their God and their leaders and no one today takes seriously as a source of historical information.
Eminonna 11 months ago
i am berber of rif like tarek ebnu zèyad
rifain0nationaliste 1 year ago
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Tariq Ibn Ziyad was a moroccan or?
pascal6746 1 year ago
@Rbigray1 Assalamalaikum Its true large parts of africa is muslim today. But to compare Timbuktu to Baghdad is way out of line. Timbuktu was nothing more then a large tow before the frontier and Baghdad was the capital. Another thing I am not aware of any black muslim general conquering lands for islam however I am aware of turkish, indian and arab generals conquering lands for islam. So just because the moors were from north africa does'nt mean they were black.
smithbrain 1 year ago
My ancestry is Spaniard. Moors are blacks from Mauritania and the west coast of Africa. Spanish people know that those who came into Spain were N. African and were of Arab/Berber stock. The term Moor was a deragatory name to call them since they came from Africa. It was used like the N word is said to blacks in the U.S. Today they're no longer referred to as Moors but terrorists and that's directed to all Muslims around the world, so that they'd be looked down on as they were then.
ForeroFlower 1 year ago
@ForeroFlower
Spanish people are of dark skin too just like the portuguese and the Italians. So your theory sucks.
therawtalent 1 year ago
@therawtalent what theory? There's lots of racism in Spain the darker skinned ones know where they got that from. So whatever you meant, you're talking to the wrong person... don't need to reply. Thank You ; )
ForeroFlower 1 year ago
@ForeroFlower
The trouble with Spanish people is that they have an inferiority complex. They are darker than the average european so they try to take the piss on colored people. Just for our own record, Mediterranean countries are all blessed with darker skin whether you like it or not.
therawtalent 1 year ago
@therawtalent They don't have an inferiority complex. Their situation is political/economical. If a migration of people affects that economy people there feel displaced. In the US it happens. Americans feel afflicted when it comes to immigrants. It's a universal situation, like you said, to take it out on others. You migrate to a nation after a while you're under pressure because those there, feel more entitlement compared to those who just got there. Most immigranst are in needed situations.
ForeroFlower 1 year ago
@ForeroFlower
Well you are talking about the same case scenario when it comes to Spanish people. How many have left the country to better their lives? They are hated as much. It takes both ways.
It is not true that the economic situation makes people hate one another. certainly it adds fuel to the crisis but the root of the problem is colonial. Muslims ruled Spain for centuries and that has left a bitter taste in every spanish mouth.
therawtalent 1 year ago
@therawtalent that is not true in every Spaniard its left a bitter taste. Visit S. Spain. Not all families i know feel that way. My family doesn't feel that way. Not everyone in Spain is with the church either. People saw what happened in the last 100 years how many Spaniards under Franco were oppressed, starved and murdered the fear and terror to live then. Many families were displaced. In our history it has been economical. In S. Spain alot of Fandangos speaks of the beauty of the Moors.
ForeroFlower 1 year ago
@ForeroFlower That is very true! southern Spanish feel second class citizens compared to northern Spanish since they are darker
enchilada01 1 year ago
@enchilada01 That's universal. Indians and S. Indians compared to Pakistanis feel inferior. In latin American countries indigenous or of negro decent feel the same. In the Arab world same thing goes. In Africa certain tribes feel more superior and entitled then others. It goes on and on but I've met many people of different cultures and nationalities and it's not everybody. Not everyone feels inferior to a certain group and not everyone feels or thinks they're superior.
ForeroFlower 1 year ago
@ForeroFlower You are right! It was colonialism that made it widespread. Ive heard Spanish boast that Southamericans say that people are better looking in Spain than in America. However it is in the eye of the beholder, those comments are nothing more than biased colonial mentality and rather ignorant. Cheers!
enchilada01 1 year ago
@enchilada01 I know. The moorish ones are the divine ones compared to the North. No offense ; ) Same goes with Italians and S. Europeans the darker ones are the darling ones. Big eyes thick lash and brows. We were conquered. The first mixed off-spring was through Spanish women. God Bless them they couldn't help it... I understand JAJAJA !
ForeroFlower 1 year ago
@ForeroFlower LOL!! God bless you!
enchilada01 1 year ago
@ForeroFlower Fuck you Infidel Saracen Moor!XD
ImperialGuard9001 1 year ago
@ImperialGuard9001 stop trying to seek my attention... Bye!
ForeroFlower 1 year ago
@ForeroFlower Just joking man
ImperialGuard9001 1 year ago
@ImperialGuard9001 Look don't call me man... I'm a female... I know you're jus joking
ForeroFlower 1 year ago
@ForeroFlower Sorry XD
ImperialGuard9001 1 year ago
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@ImperialGuard9001 Youre just bitter lol
Kingofsomething87 1 year ago
GIBRALTAR IS ANDALUSIAN TERRITORY
FUCK BRITISH
ylahumanidad 1 year ago
Spain??? SPAIN DONT EXIST
This is ANDALUSIA, SPAIN IS THE NORTH
ylahumanidad 1 year ago
@Rbigray1 im just sick and tired of these dumb afrocentrists who falsify our history while they were always slaves, and NO there was no black moor,they were always slaves
sumthin5 1 year ago
@sumthin5 I know right? Those afrocentric retards have also falsified my people's history as well, and it really pisses me off.
lifeisgood1013 1 year ago
The Berbers of North Africa have always been used by the arabs in the name of the Quran until the present days. Egyptians used the berbers of Algeria to fight against their war against Israel. (the war of 6 days 1967). It's time for Imazighen to be proud of the religion of their ancestors, ONE GOD, the one who isn't muslim, christian or.... the God of universe, the one who never spoke to anyone, appeared to anyone. BE STRONG AND UNITED, GET RID OF YOUR FEARS OF ALLAH AND HYPOCRITE ARABS.
larbaanathirathen11 1 year ago
@larbaanathirathen11 go bury urself zombie zionist shill agent lolo hahaha.. we embrace islam dnt need any explanation from zionists shills, tellin us from the states or izrakill 2 abide satan too? tellin us our histroy? tarik ibn ziad is needed more then ever bitches.. alkatabi 4 life; 3000 of ma muslim freedom frighters= busted 15.000 of ur kind of whores understand friggin snitch? go tell that crap where they take it from ya, not here rememba buh snikey devo crap not allowed
TheRifberber 11 months ago
Here is the truth: The poor Imazighen have been used by the bloody arabs with their magic religious poems, they pushed them in the name of Allah to go take islam to Europe while the arabs were hidding and laughing at them. The arabs screwed the berbers big time. It's very sad to say that until today the berbers are so scare of the Allah of the arabs. why? because they cut the heads of their kings first then they played them music and balley dancing. The berbers are naive people.
larbaanathirathen11 1 year ago
berbers are white mediteranean people
TANEMIRTH AGMA (means thank you in berber amazigh language )wich of course u dont know u stupid piece of black shits becuz ure not north african berber imazighen and u will never be, keep falsifiyin history u dumb niggers
sumthin5 1 year ago
IM MOROCAN AND IM NOT BLACK, BLACKS HAVE ALWAYS BEEN SLAVES IN MOROCO AND EVEN THERE ARE STILL SOME SLAVES IN THE MOROCAN ROYAL PALACE.MOORS TRADED BLACK SLAVES RIGHT, BUT HOW CAN HAVE THEY COULD THEY DO THAT IF THEY WERE THEMSELVES BLACK ?? DO THEY ENSLAVED THEIR OWN RACE ?? PLEASE SHUT UP
sumthin5 1 year ago
@sumthin5 You are a fuckin idiot, stupid moroccan, fuck Morocco, Fuck SPAIN
FUCK YOUR STUPID GAY KING
FREEDOM FOR ANDALUSIA
ylahumanidad 1 year ago
FOR ALL THE STUPID AFROCENTRISITS OVER HERE : PLEASE SHUT THE FUCK UP !! MOORS NORTH AFRICAN BERBERS WERE NOT BLACK, THEY ARE NOT BLACK RIGHT NOW , AND WILL NEVER BE BLACK . END OF STORY U STUPID HISTORY STEALERS !! GOLIVE IN UR BANTU JUNGLES AND ULL SEE WHAT "GLORIOUS" CIVILIZATION U HAVE OVER THERE !!
sumthin5 1 year ago
tarik was described as as black as ink. Tarik was described as even darker still. Tarik wasn't much darker than his moorish brethren it was because he rode in on a white horse that made him seem so much darker.
MASSIVE100 1 year ago
wow those europeans look real dirty
blackberber 1 year ago
actual all these people you see around here are supose to be darker skinned
and sum supose to be black
blackberber 1 year ago
Espana did not exist before the WisGoth were germanic people from the north and the spanish name and latino were made by Fridric the erman king and made them speaking Dialekt latin, because the spanish for him were just caucassian people who immigrated in Ibiria. Spanish latino came from Russia before to live in Spain they have no identity and Spain was always colony of the Berber from Massinissa, Hanibal and Tarek iben Ziad the new converter muslim. Spain live now under the protection of US
Atlantim1 1 year ago
Tareq Ibn Ziad Was Maroccan From The West Sahara
4evermarokko 1 year ago
@4evermarokko Who cares,,,he was a muslim warrior,,one of the greatests.
qasion 1 year ago
@qasion LIKE THE TALIBANS RIGHT
carameloxx 1 year ago
@carameloxx Right. The warriors who are confronting the most advanced army in the world. You idiot.
qasion 1 year ago
@qasion YEAH THATS WHY THEIR STAYNG ALIV RIGHT...VIVA ESPANA!!....ISLAM WLL DIE
carameloxx 1 year ago
@carameloxx I don't know what you mean by that,,your english is very weak. Islam will die :-) keep dreaming. And Viva Espana,,sure why not.
qasion 1 year ago
Alah akbar,,Tareq.
qasion 1 year ago
These are real barbarians
Angles786 1 year ago
@Angles786 the real barbarians where europeans they where so filthy that they washed dem
selfs 1 time in a year thats barbarian
blackberber 1 year ago