very good preach, my Hope for you is that you have aborted the the foetus of falsity; that is the necessity that all believers have to speak in tongues.
My hope is that you really want to know all truth, and that you have studied to see if what i have said to you is truth, and you heard the Fathers voice; and now u see that the initial evidence doctrine of speaking in tongues is dead, and that you lay it aside and go on preaching only the word of truth, i have great hope for you.
@ThePatooch also better men than you have been corrected by the Lord, and they did not despise his chastisement, His rod and staff comforted them.
This is called being changed from one degree of glory unto another, growing in the knowledge of God, and receiving light that we may not lead others into error.
@ThePatooch and what do you mean "better men than me". why do you rate men? i dont despise any chastisement .. actually i never knew you was chastising me. lol . just show me WHERE IM WRONG IN MY VIDEOS.. WHAT DID I SAY OR WHAT SCRIPTURES AM I TWISTING.. IF YOUR NOT GOING TO SHOW WHERE I TWISTED OR WHAT SCRIPTURE IM TWISTING THEN DONT COMMENT.. its that simple.. im willing to listen but SHOW me what scripture im misunderstanding PLEASE.. WHICH ONES..
@BrothaMinister for a start i dont rate men; i was trying to show you nicely that the bible shows men being corrected by the Lord, but it didnt stop God from using them, also i was not chastising you, the word of God was chastising your belief that all should speak in tongues after the baptism of the Holy Spirit.
as to where you are wrong in your videos you teach that all should speak in tongues as an evidence, if you had read my book you would have seen your wrong, but you didnt .
and like i said before.. UNDER YOUR TEACHING i would be saved right? i believed i recieved so im saved right? cause i recieved THE MOMENT I BELIEVED.. so this is what i cant understand.. if under you teaching i would have the right to say im saved right? so whats the problem. we suppose to be TWO SAVED MEN.. only problem is IF IM RIGHT (YOUR NOT SAVED) is that what it is? what you teach makes me ASSURED THAT IM SAVED.. does what i teach CONVICT YOU THAT YOUR NOT? dont rate men bro
@BrothaMinister its NOT UNDER MY TEACHING, but the TEACHING OF THE BIBLE, and i dont rate men as i said before, its the word of God i Rate, and believe; we may both be saved, but that does not stop you from commiting error, you do not seem to have a teachable spirit, for one who claims to love the truth, you have not even read my book to check if your right or wrong, and i quote from the same bible as you, quoting it doesent mean you have the truth, it has to concur with the whole word.
@ThePatooch LOOK MAN. quit saying i didnt read something like i chose too. YOU DONT LISTEN.. i clearly said i been waiting for it and i havent received it.. check your web page i asked if i could even by it in stores.. wow.. and quit your SEEM talk.. you dont know me.. and for you to say im not teachable YOU REALLY DONT KNOW ME.. so look i thought we could have a good relationship iron sharpen iron, but i see you cant do that. so i ask nicely TO NOT MAKE ANY COMMENTS ON MY PAGE.
@ThePatooch i ask you bro, do you think im a false teacher or that i am a person who has the Holy Spirit in me and teach truth. its either or. so which one is it. im either teaching with the spirit of the devil in me or im teaching from the Holy Spirit. so you have seen my videos.. from YOUR PERSPECTIVE which one is it. im either of GOD or THE DEVIL. so which one is it? please answer
@BrothaMinister i see you at this moment in time as one who is preaching error concerning the baptism of the Holy Spirit, which damages the body of Christ, and sets itself against the knowledge of God, if not repented of and acceptance of the truth that all have been baptised by the Holy Spirit is not forthcoming, i would have to say you are preaching a gospel different to that of the Apostles of the faith once delivered to us, and therefore being used of the enemy to damage the church.
@ThePatooch Patooch, you said to me on another video that you "spoke and sang in tongues" for over 15 minutes "after you were saved". If you spoke in tongues (as the spirit of God gave the utterance), then what do you attribute the tongues to; an external event, as in the old testament where the spirit rested on the prophets, an internal manifestation of the Holy Ghost or neither?
@HugosGarden correction it was fifteen minutes after i had received God into my life and was washed clean of my sins, that i said to God "oh i wish that i could sing to you like those in church, it sounded so Holy," and i lifted up my hands and began to sing in tongues, and it continued throughout the night, every time i was in fron with my work, i went out into the field dropped on my knees and began to sing again, until about 6am.
@ThePatooch continued, what do i attribute them to;. i attribute them to answer of prayer, i had asked indirectly that i too could have that gift, and God Granted it to me, i was totally saved 15 mins before that gift was given to me, i had received the Holy Spirit and knew that i was clean and set apart for God, and filled with an inexpressible joy before i got the gift of tongues.
you realy need to read the book that you said you would, one prophesied that you will say you didnt get it.
@ThePatooch continued, but i wanted to believe the best for you, and still do, so i ignored it, even though what he said came to pass. i cannot understand your reluctance to read the book, is it because you fear being wrong, as the word reveals to you your error, i would rather be wrong and be corrected by the word of God, than wrong and continue in error.
Im not going to go through all the question and answer routine again, read the book and tell me im wrong, and how im wrong, u wont be able to
@ThePatooch im trying to help you, not attack you; appolos taught the word of God and was applauded by God for doing so, but precilla and aquilla had to explain the word better to him. So dont be surprised if God sends correction, and revelation by another. I fear for your salvation and the ones who listen to your error concerning the baptism of the Holy Spirit, that is why i speak to you; as an older brother who loves the body of Christ.
@HugosGarden I called out to Him to forgive me of my sins, to wash me clean, and right away i knew that He had done that and came into my life, i was filled with a Holy joy and at 33 years old went skipping down the road to work, rejoicing all the way,
but now i can point to the scriptures and explain them regarding my salvation experience, hope that helps.
@ThePatooch just realised im talking to Hugosgarden here, sorry brother i thought it was brothaminister, forgive me if you are confused with reply. Bless
@ThePatooch well who ever prophesised i wouldnt read it must be a liar.. dude i offered to pay for you to come and teach what you wanted to teach..did i not? so why would i lie about if i recieved a book.. . man you aint right.. .and you said the same thing to me about your testimony. so your evidence of being saved was YOU BELIEVED AND STARTING SKIPPING DOWN THE ROAD... so what scriptures do you got for them.
@the patooch.. why did you ask for tongues? for what reason... and when you say you got them THE GIFT OF TONGUES do you attribute that you was speaking in languages to speak a message ? or when you heard others doing it and you asked to do the same was they doing it to speak a message? now like i said and last timei will say it SEND ME YOUR BOOK. CAUSE I WOULDNT KEEP ASKING FOR IT IF I GOT IT IN MY EMAIL..
@HugosGarden he said the same thing to me too.. i would love for him to clairify to me about this experience.. now i believe when that so called happed 15 minutes AFTER he got saved just for believeing thats WHEN HE GOT SAVED if the statement is true.. .cause i would love for him to explain WHAT THAT MEANT FOR HIM TO BE SPEAKING IN TONGUES (15 MINUTES) AFTER GETTING SAVED.. and very curious about WHY HE ASKED FOR TONGUES? cause i asked for HOLY GHOST not tongues.. i wasnt seeking tongues HE WAS
@BrothaMinister that's the truth, I have this conversation with people who are stuck on tongues tongues tongues all the time. I think Patooch has the "faith only" belief because how in the world can some who was genuinely filled with Holy Ghost, AND allegedly spoke in tongues turn around and call the Holy Ghost a "fetus of falsity" Nah, never heard any one "sing in tongues" in my life. I saw on your channel you he was trying to send you something that didn't go though, did my email come through?
"you know" lol that's right.
HugosGarden 5 months ago
very good preach, my Hope for you is that you have aborted the the foetus of falsity; that is the necessity that all believers have to speak in tongues.
My hope is that you really want to know all truth, and that you have studied to see if what i have said to you is truth, and you heard the Fathers voice; and now u see that the initial evidence doctrine of speaking in tongues is dead, and that you lay it aside and go on preaching only the word of truth, i have great hope for you.
ThePatooch 5 months ago
@ThePatooch also better men than you have been corrected by the Lord, and they did not despise his chastisement, His rod and staff comforted them.
This is called being changed from one degree of glory unto another, growing in the knowledge of God, and receiving light that we may not lead others into error.
ThePatooch 5 months ago
@ThePatooch and what do you mean "better men than me". why do you rate men? i dont despise any chastisement .. actually i never knew you was chastising me. lol . just show me WHERE IM WRONG IN MY VIDEOS.. WHAT DID I SAY OR WHAT SCRIPTURES AM I TWISTING.. IF YOUR NOT GOING TO SHOW WHERE I TWISTED OR WHAT SCRIPTURE IM TWISTING THEN DONT COMMENT.. its that simple.. im willing to listen but SHOW me what scripture im misunderstanding PLEASE.. WHICH ONES..
BrothaMinister 5 months ago
@BrothaMinister for a start i dont rate men; i was trying to show you nicely that the bible shows men being corrected by the Lord, but it didnt stop God from using them, also i was not chastising you, the word of God was chastising your belief that all should speak in tongues after the baptism of the Holy Spirit.
as to where you are wrong in your videos you teach that all should speak in tongues as an evidence, if you had read my book you would have seen your wrong, but you didnt .
ThePatooch 5 months ago
and like i said before.. UNDER YOUR TEACHING i would be saved right? i believed i recieved so im saved right? cause i recieved THE MOMENT I BELIEVED.. so this is what i cant understand.. if under you teaching i would have the right to say im saved right? so whats the problem. we suppose to be TWO SAVED MEN.. only problem is IF IM RIGHT (YOUR NOT SAVED) is that what it is? what you teach makes me ASSURED THAT IM SAVED.. does what i teach CONVICT YOU THAT YOUR NOT? dont rate men bro
BrothaMinister 5 months ago
@BrothaMinister its NOT UNDER MY TEACHING, but the TEACHING OF THE BIBLE, and i dont rate men as i said before, its the word of God i Rate, and believe; we may both be saved, but that does not stop you from commiting error, you do not seem to have a teachable spirit, for one who claims to love the truth, you have not even read my book to check if your right or wrong, and i quote from the same bible as you, quoting it doesent mean you have the truth, it has to concur with the whole word.
ThePatooch 5 months ago
@ThePatooch LOOK MAN. quit saying i didnt read something like i chose too. YOU DONT LISTEN.. i clearly said i been waiting for it and i havent received it.. check your web page i asked if i could even by it in stores.. wow.. and quit your SEEM talk.. you dont know me.. and for you to say im not teachable YOU REALLY DONT KNOW ME.. so look i thought we could have a good relationship iron sharpen iron, but i see you cant do that. so i ask nicely TO NOT MAKE ANY COMMENTS ON MY PAGE.
BrothaMinister 5 months ago
@ThePatooch i ask you bro, do you think im a false teacher or that i am a person who has the Holy Spirit in me and teach truth. its either or. so which one is it. im either teaching with the spirit of the devil in me or im teaching from the Holy Spirit. so you have seen my videos.. from YOUR PERSPECTIVE which one is it. im either of GOD or THE DEVIL. so which one is it? please answer
BrothaMinister 5 months ago
@BrothaMinister i see you at this moment in time as one who is preaching error concerning the baptism of the Holy Spirit, which damages the body of Christ, and sets itself against the knowledge of God, if not repented of and acceptance of the truth that all have been baptised by the Holy Spirit is not forthcoming, i would have to say you are preaching a gospel different to that of the Apostles of the faith once delivered to us, and therefore being used of the enemy to damage the church.
ThePatooch 5 months ago
@ThePatooch Patooch, you said to me on another video that you "spoke and sang in tongues" for over 15 minutes "after you were saved". If you spoke in tongues (as the spirit of God gave the utterance), then what do you attribute the tongues to; an external event, as in the old testament where the spirit rested on the prophets, an internal manifestation of the Holy Ghost or neither?
HugosGarden 5 months ago
@HugosGarden correction it was fifteen minutes after i had received God into my life and was washed clean of my sins, that i said to God "oh i wish that i could sing to you like those in church, it sounded so Holy," and i lifted up my hands and began to sing in tongues, and it continued throughout the night, every time i was in fron with my work, i went out into the field dropped on my knees and began to sing again, until about 6am.
ThePatooch 5 months ago
@ThePatooch continued, what do i attribute them to;. i attribute them to answer of prayer, i had asked indirectly that i too could have that gift, and God Granted it to me, i was totally saved 15 mins before that gift was given to me, i had received the Holy Spirit and knew that i was clean and set apart for God, and filled with an inexpressible joy before i got the gift of tongues.
you realy need to read the book that you said you would, one prophesied that you will say you didnt get it.
ThePatooch 5 months ago
@ThePatooch continued, but i wanted to believe the best for you, and still do, so i ignored it, even though what he said came to pass. i cannot understand your reluctance to read the book, is it because you fear being wrong, as the word reveals to you your error, i would rather be wrong and be corrected by the word of God, than wrong and continue in error.
Im not going to go through all the question and answer routine again, read the book and tell me im wrong, and how im wrong, u wont be able to
ThePatooch 5 months ago
@ThePatooch im trying to help you, not attack you; appolos taught the word of God and was applauded by God for doing so, but precilla and aquilla had to explain the word better to him. So dont be surprised if God sends correction, and revelation by another. I fear for your salvation and the ones who listen to your error concerning the baptism of the Holy Spirit, that is why i speak to you; as an older brother who loves the body of Christ.
ThePatooch 5 months ago
@ThePatooch So, before your tongues, came how did you know you that you actually did "receive" God into your life?
HugosGarden 5 months ago
@HugosGarden I called out to Him to forgive me of my sins, to wash me clean, and right away i knew that He had done that and came into my life, i was filled with a Holy joy and at 33 years old went skipping down the road to work, rejoicing all the way,
but now i can point to the scriptures and explain them regarding my salvation experience, hope that helps.
ThePatooch 5 months ago
@ThePatooch what are the scriptures?
HugosGarden 5 months ago
@ThePatooch just realised im talking to Hugosgarden here, sorry brother i thought it was brothaminister, forgive me if you are confused with reply. Bless
ThePatooch 5 months ago
@ThePatooch lol, that happens
HugosGarden 5 months ago
@ThePatooch well who ever prophesised i wouldnt read it must be a liar.. dude i offered to pay for you to come and teach what you wanted to teach..did i not? so why would i lie about if i recieved a book.. . man you aint right.. .and you said the same thing to me about your testimony. so your evidence of being saved was YOU BELIEVED AND STARTING SKIPPING DOWN THE ROAD... so what scriptures do you got for them.
BrothaMinister 5 months ago
@the patooch.. why did you ask for tongues? for what reason... and when you say you got them THE GIFT OF TONGUES do you attribute that you was speaking in languages to speak a message ? or when you heard others doing it and you asked to do the same was they doing it to speak a message? now like i said and last timei will say it SEND ME YOUR BOOK. CAUSE I WOULDNT KEEP ASKING FOR IT IF I GOT IT IN MY EMAIL..
BrothaMinister 5 months ago
@HugosGarden he said the same thing to me too.. i would love for him to clairify to me about this experience.. now i believe when that so called happed 15 minutes AFTER he got saved just for believeing thats WHEN HE GOT SAVED if the statement is true.. .cause i would love for him to explain WHAT THAT MEANT FOR HIM TO BE SPEAKING IN TONGUES (15 MINUTES) AFTER GETTING SAVED.. and very curious about WHY HE ASKED FOR TONGUES? cause i asked for HOLY GHOST not tongues.. i wasnt seeking tongues HE WAS
BrothaMinister 5 months ago
@BrothaMinister that's the truth, I have this conversation with people who are stuck on tongues tongues tongues all the time. I think Patooch has the "faith only" belief because how in the world can some who was genuinely filled with Holy Ghost, AND allegedly spoke in tongues turn around and call the Holy Ghost a "fetus of falsity" Nah, never heard any one "sing in tongues" in my life. I saw on your channel you he was trying to send you something that didn't go though, did my email come through?
HugosGarden 5 months ago
@HugosGarden i never seen anything you sent unless your talking bout you sent to me for on here.. did you send to my yahoo account?
BrothaMinister 5 months ago
@BrothaMinister yeah, gonna send a pm now (here on youtube).
HugosGarden 5 months ago
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@BrothaMinister yeah, gonna send a pm now, here on youtube
HugosGarden 5 months ago