@LinusNtheGuitar I was just about to say the very same thing. You beat me to it. That and the fact that he can sing and play at such a high level at the same time is staggering.
TO CLEAR UP THE CONFUSION ONCE AND FOR ALL ABOUT MIKAEL'S GROWLING VOICE:
At Royal Albert Hall, his growling sounds fucked up because he was using inner-ear monitors and not regular earplugs. He said so himself in an interview. His voice has not changed or gotten worse at all.
@theHaxprocessor describing one side of the coin, do you really think he still growls as good as he did during riveries or deliverance? secondly you dont think his voice weakend the further he got into the albert hall concert? in that case i really dont agree and think you should listen to it again.. its a natural thing thus if his growl today is as good as ever, he somehow magically ignored all biological evolutions which the human body endure ;)
His voice may have weakened the further he got into the Albert Hall concert, but it was all because he was using the wrong technique. I realize he won't be able to growl like that forever, but I know that there was something suspicious going on with that one concert (which I have watched several times, by the way).
@theHaxprocessor He also said in an interview that it had something to do with him using in-ear monitors in the Albert Hall concert and that hearing his growls over those monitors seemed to be partly responsible for this change in his growls. He also stated that in earlier years he hadn't used them and that they were great for clean vocals, but apparently not so great for growls. He also said it wasn't something physiological were he would have needed treatment or something like that.
@ThorTheOdinSon Totally agree. Watch videos of old gigs (I'm particularly thinking of some big prog bands). The crowd would be quiet and you could hear the music properly, unspoiled by people clapping and idiots screaming. The music could be quiet when it needed to be and loud when it wanted to be. If opeth wanted clapping noises and people yelling in their music, they'd have put it in the original recording.
Opeth is awesome! They have an awesome range of sound and Mikael is one of the best metal vocalists ever! The new song is definitely different without his signature growls and music is a bit different but their sound definitely shines through. it's all about evolution, nothing stays the same..
@drummerdude7318 FYI, they have a record without growling, it's called Damnation. No distorted guitars or double bass. Åkerfeldt said that their new album, Heritage, which will be released this year, does not contain very much growling. Dream Theater is an excellent band too.
@SebaChannel i love death metal purely because so many of the bands have a lyricist that can SCREAM to get the adrenaline rolling...then vocalize the crowd to a giant dripping vagina while the guitarist and drummer make you melt to pieces......but this shit right here...this shit right here nigga....Wow....
I got tickets to the Sonishpere Festival in Knebworth, UK. I'll be seeing the big 4, Motorhead, Mastodon... but I'm actually more excited about seeing Opeth than any other band.
dream theater is better if u like fast playing and thats it, the sounds of opeth live and just the genious behind thier music takes the cake when i compare them to dream theater... but hey thats just my view
I probabaly prefer Opeth but DT is really good too, for me their really similar. Opeth is just alot darker and has more folk type stuff in their music....and yah DT's singing can get annoying but they do some pretty sweet prog ballads!
Yeah I'm starting to like opeth a lot but I personally think dream theater is more talented and experienced. Not saying that opeth can't get to where DT is today.
@metalwillhatecrew --' Akerfeldt's favourite band is DT, my two favourite bands are Opeth and DT, it's not an insult in any manner to say that Opeth is somewhat like them, every band would like to ear that compliment... I said that about Opeth in a good way :)
you're not in the position to diss on dream theater considering you like children of bodom enough to include them in your filename. dream theater are amazing, if you diss on them you're dissing on opeth as well considering how much they have influenced opeth.
This is total bullshit. Hating the influences doesn't make you hate the band. I fucking hate The Beatles but they influenced a shitload of my favourite bands. Not only that, but Mikael said himself that the inspiration for Opeth songs DOES NOT COME FROM METAL, so it certainly doesn't come from fucking Dream Theater.
"I don't see the point of playing in a band and going just one way when you can do everything. It would be impossible for us to play just death metal; that is our roots, but we are now a mishmash of everything, and not purists to any form of music." direct quote from mikael, you fail. i would also like to see you give a valid reason why dream theater sucks because they obviously don't.
oh, and you know what's funny about your statements about why dream theaters sucks is that YOU AREN'T PART OF THE BAND. how would you know how they songwrite again? you don't. i can tell you first hand that very odd time signatures, complexity, and long songwriting comes instinctively after a while. it's not that they're trying to be complicated, their styles just are complicated.
Sticking every nook and cranny of your songs with odd times and flashy solos comes off as extremely pretentious to me. Not only that, but making sure your songs exceed a certain length (they're guilty of this especially on their most recent albums) comes off as such as well. The fact that their songs are meandering and often have completely irrelevant sections points to trying hard too--when in doubt, stick in a solo or a boring, slow, 'proggy' part!
please, a nightmare to remember was long, but it was extremely tasteful the whole way through and never got boring. you see, this what happens when people don't listen to enough classical, they think that everything is overly complicated and extremely long. if you diss on dream theater for those reasons you're basically saying classical is crappy too. i never said they didn't have rock influences, but even mikael says that their core is death metal.
Have you looked at my profile? My name, even? I adore complex music. But when you start to ape post-CttE Yes (yes, Dream Theater is almost at the same level of pompousness as that) and add in a bunch of metal clichés, that's when your music starts to become ridiculous. If you want tasteful long songs, try Larks' Tongues in Aspic 1, Close to the Edge, Thick as a Brick, all the songs from VdGG's Pawn Hearts... no goddamn clichés, no showy solos.
metal cliches? dream theater does NOT use any metal cliches, they might be the least cliche band of all time. showy solos? how do you know that john does that just to show off and doesn't enjoy doing it? you don't because you're not john and his solos are melodic and tasteful anyways.
Everybody enjoys showing off. Obviously he doesn't have the self-restraint to calm the fuck down. His solos may be melodic when examined from a theory standpoint but they sound like cacophony; tasteful, they definitely aren't. When I refer to clichés, I refer to their pretty generic chugging riffs--but maybe me calling that a cliché is a sign that I'm starting to enjoy metal less and less.
DT the least cliche band--even in metal? You ought to broaden your musical horizons.
look at my file and look under "bands and artists i appreciate" and if you think i need to broaden my horizon then you are the god of music. they hardly ever chug, and when they do it's not the generic deathcore chugging crap. "His solos may be melodic when examined from a theory standpoint but they sound like cacophony; tasteful, they definitely aren't." it sounds good to me and several other dt fans. just because you don't like it doesn't mean it's not good.
So you pretty much listen exclusively to music with guitars in it. Like I said, broaden your musical horizons. Check out the underground scene and you'll find more talent than Dream Theater could ever hope to have.
Also, there are people who think Brokencyde sounds good. That doesn't make them any more listenable.
yeah, because apparently herbie hancock, yuki kajiura, vivaldi, beethoven, and nas are exclusively guitar musicians! i have dabbled in more underground music than 99.9% of the people that have ever lived on this planet. from milan polak, to yuki kajiura, to aeveron, to derdian, the list goes on. over 50% of the bands i list are underground. also, you're comparing brokencyde, an entirely computer generated band to dream theater. epic fail.
What the fuck does being 'computer generated' have to with anything? ANYONE can learn to play an instrument well, only a few have the talent to actually do it with. Whether or not you take the easier route and use electronics to make music is irrelevant, there are plenty of electronic artists who make good music (Venetian Snares, to name one).
I'd suggest you stop using the phrase "epic fail", it's not helping the image I have of you.
Anyway--of course you have a couple of artists who make music with only a little/without guitars on that list. It's an xbox huge list. But what ís on there is predominantly guitar music (i.e. rock, metal and some punk); hence "_pretty much_ exclusively". Besides, the artists you do name that make guitarless music are pretty much entry-level to their respective genres: you may like them, but I think it's safe to say that your taste mostly goes out to rock/metal... right?
no, most of the specific guitarists i mention play fusion which is by far my favorite genre for the past couple of months. as for bands, it's mostly metal. at least 15 genres of metal within that list, but yes, it's still metal. rock too, but the majority f "bands" i listen to are rock and metal, but most bands in the world involve guitars in them anyways, and i leave out a lot of the jazz and classical artists i enjoy on my list.
continuing: "We started with death metal and moved on to a hybrid of everything else; there were never as into extreme music, so we come from completely different backgrounds. But they were very influential to me in the early days of this band." he is responding to a question of whether dream theater influenced him or not. you fail in every way possible.
Ha, I'm not surprised. The Dream Theater 'influences' do sort of shine through in their first two albums, in that those albums comprised of the same long and meandering songs DT made. Except Mikael has outright said he was growing to dislike the sound they had going on there, and I can't blame him: those albums are too long and just boring-ass Gothenburg melodeath knock-offs.
But I'll stand corrected; it's the right thing to do.
The only way in which early Opeth was progressive is in the length of their songs. The true progressive influences started with My Arms, Your Hearse and continued growing from there. 'The Drapery Falls' has one of their most progressive parts ever (the 5/8 middle section), the album Damnation is straight-up prog rock and Watershed is arguably their most progressive album yet.
that's what i meant. dream theater's songs are almost always very long and i didn't see any death metal band making songs that long (except maybe death) at the time so that's probably how they were influenced by them.
oh, and ONE more thing. there is a difference between hate and disrespect. hating somebody's influences does not mean you hate the band, but disrespecting them means you are also disrespecting the part of the band that was influenced by them. in this case you are dissing the progressiveness of opeth seeing as how that's most likely how they were influenced by dream theater most.
You must be completely deluded to believe that Mikael's progressive influences are from Dream Theater and not from the 70s prog bands such as King Crimson, Yes, Genesis, and obscure bands like Comus. He says that pretty much everytime he's asked in interviews: when he writes metal music, he is not _influenced_ by metal music. Opeth was _not_ influenced by Dream Theater; if any modern prog band did influence them, it's Porcupine Tree.
@Drezin86 you can compare them if you like, but you need some way to compare them, and everybody's got their own taste in music. i like both dream theater and opeth, and they play quite different styles of progressive metal, so please dont oversimplify things by saying they're just prog metal, it doesnt mean they can be compared that easily.
Okey you retards, I just told my opinion. I am not comparing them, I'm just saying that dream theater suck and that Opeth is one of the best progressive death metal band in the world.
@hajlajfftw Opeth one of my fav bands, unique style, you cant compare with dream theater, dream its about complexity, virtuosity, opeth its so diferent, more powerfull, Better vocals
After loving Damnation, I decided to check out more of Opeth's music. They have the best of everything all in one! Death growls, calm complex melodies, blazing fast double kick, and magnificent singing. I love OPETH \M/
@sebiis18 and SO amazing live its unbelievable. they deserve even more fame, and the only reason that theyre not is because mainstream metal (<<not a bad thing! ;)) took over the 95% of the whole scene :(
@sebiis18 Opeth is the Metallica of Death Metal... any fan of True Metal will agree with that. Whether or not they're recognized that way by the mainstream is irrelevant when it comes to this genre. The only difference is that Opeth hasn't come out with a "Load" equivalent yet. Watershed is their Black Album (in a positive way, obviously.) Please god don't make a Load equivalent. Opeth has done for Death Metal what Metallica did for Thrash. Evolve it, Perfect it, and put it on the map.
@metalrules13 Was that a Joke? There's no way you can argue that their earlier albums weren't death metal. Not the traditional grindcore shit but Progressive/Melodic Death Metal.
@CrackeTheSkull Nope, Opeth was never really Death Metal. They had some Death Metal elements (mostly of Melodic Death Metal), but that doesn't make them a Death Metal band. A lot of people think that they are DM because of the vocals, and they can be classified as Progressive Death Metal, but they didn't "evolve" Death Metal or anything. They just took a few of the genre's elements and played a different style.
@metalrules13 Wait, what? So, they can be classified as a Progressive DEATH METAL band, yet they aren't Death Metal? C'mon man, what the hell?
They evolved it in the sense that they layed out the blueprint for a newer, more unique style of Death Metal (or Normal Metal, whatever you want to call it) Never before Opeth did I see a band blend that type of Growling and Normal Singing vocals together in one song and make it work. Not many bands have used it yet but eventually the scene will catch on
@CrackeTheSkull I know what you mean, but I think that it's not an evolution, but a completely different style. The Death Metal vocals are just one of the several aspects of Opeth's sound. Personally, I refer to Opeth as Progressive Extreme Metal.
And yeah, they were one of the first bands to combine clean singing and growling, although their friends in the band "Edge Of Sanity" did it a few years earlier than Opeth. Great band btw, if you like Opeth you'll definite
Fucking EPIC!
theunknow86 1 week ago
It's amazing how Mikael can go from growling like a beast into singing like an angel in less than a sec.. incredible!
LinusNtheGuitar 1 week ago
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@LinusNtheGuitar I was just about to say the very same thing. You beat me to it. That and the fact that he can sing and play at such a high level at the same time is staggering.
mlr2112 2 days ago
You could tell the fans that are musicians are the ones clapping on the right beat
Mohamed636 2 weeks ago
random asian guy at 6:29 made me lol
windknife 3 weeks ago
I understand now that Dream Theatre sucks Opeth's dick!!!
daumoro 1 month ago
@daumoro so ignorant.
dragon2712 1 month ago
@daumoro very ignorant. they're both amazing bands.
purity778 1 month ago
@purity778 Dream fucking theater just have virtuoso musicians woth fast fingers and slow brain each!
daumoro 2 weeks ago
@daumoro that made zero sense.
purity778 5 days ago
@daumoro Don't worry you're not ignorant. Dream Theatre does does suck. Good musicians, bad music.
Str8Faced 4 weeks ago
Unique band, can play, can compose, can growl, can sing, can make a show!
daumoro 1 month ago
totally mindblowing song ... wow
ReEv2345 1 month ago
5 noobs love Justin bieber -.-
pastorlopes 1 month ago
Mikael is both a daemon and an angel <3
faristhegangster 1 month ago
really good music
RabbiMendel 1 month ago
Pause at 9:34 to see stunned little kid... AWESOME FUTURE FOR THIS LITTLE GUY!
AMartins92 2 months ago
a harsh & heavy growl
sounds good.
Makapentang 2 months ago
For someone who sounds so scary, he sure seems charming.
PaisleyWilde 2 months ago
@PaisleyWilde Same can be said about Charles Manson.
zagorith14 1 month ago
FUS RO DAH
Asrakorn 2 months ago 2
Mikael and Frank Mullen are the two most badass vocalists death metal has ever seen..they can easily kill people with their vocals. \m/\m/
mchangkiri 2 months ago
grandes musicos... nada q decir lml
kayoooguitar 2 months ago
masterpiece
konfect 2 months ago
It's so cool when you have Legolas drumming
avarshanidze 3 months ago
WOW!!
TurtleFL 3 months ago
perfect
bidalherseyihalleder 4 months ago
five people got hunted in their childhood
leimonk 4 months ago
TO CLEAR UP THE CONFUSION ONCE AND FOR ALL ABOUT MIKAEL'S GROWLING VOICE:
At Royal Albert Hall, his growling sounds fucked up because he was using inner-ear monitors and not regular earplugs. He said so himself in an interview. His voice has not changed or gotten worse at all.
theHaxprocessor 4 months ago 2
@theHaxprocessor how did you get that name before i did
PlataniumIdiot 4 months ago
@theHaxprocessor describing one side of the coin, do you really think he still growls as good as he did during riveries or deliverance? secondly you dont think his voice weakend the further he got into the albert hall concert? in that case i really dont agree and think you should listen to it again.. its a natural thing thus if his growl today is as good as ever, he somehow magically ignored all biological evolutions which the human body endure ;)
warmdickweed 3 months ago
@warmdickweed
His voice may have weakened the further he got into the Albert Hall concert, but it was all because he was using the wrong technique. I realize he won't be able to growl like that forever, but I know that there was something suspicious going on with that one concert (which I have watched several times, by the way).
theHaxprocessor 3 months ago
@theHaxprocessor He also said in an interview that it had something to do with him using in-ear monitors in the Albert Hall concert and that hearing his growls over those monitors seemed to be partly responsible for this change in his growls. He also stated that in earlier years he hadn't used them and that they were great for clean vocals, but apparently not so great for growls. He also said it wasn't something physiological were he would have needed treatment or something like that.
Altairograph 2 months ago
@Altairograph
This is exactly what I said in my original comment. Just not in so much detail.... so I really have no idea why you just explained this to me.
theHaxprocessor 2 months ago
@theHaxprocessor I'm sorry, I didn't see your original post and therefore wasn't sure if you knew this. My fault.
Altairograph 2 months ago
What is it with idiots at opeth gigs and not being able to clap in time with the music?
jamma246 5 months ago 8
@jamma246 What is it with idiots attempting to clap at a metal show period....
ThorTheOdinSon 4 months ago in playlist ThorTheOdinSon's favorites
@ThorTheOdinSon Totally agree. Watch videos of old gigs (I'm particularly thinking of some big prog bands). The crowd would be quiet and you could hear the music properly, unspoiled by people clapping and idiots screaming. The music could be quiet when it needed to be and loud when it wanted to be. If opeth wanted clapping noises and people yelling in their music, they'd have put it in the original recording.
jamma246 4 months ago
@jamma246 That always happens, regardless the artist.
regnar666 1 month ago in playlist Opeth Live
TURN UP THE BASSIST! :<
demidevil666 5 months ago 2
@demidevil666 The bass is definitely audible here.
21stCSchizoidName 5 months ago
man I miss his growls so bad
MetallicOpeth 5 months ago
@MetallicOpeth me too, it seems to be like he can't growls like this anymore... :(
DemonFromPerdition 5 months ago
@DemonFromPerdition Wait what? why wouldn't he? Ofc he can still growl, the new cd is just a different direction.
TheMonolithany 5 months ago
@TheMonolithany Well I have heard him growl in his newest gigs and he doesn't sound the same...
DemonFromPerdition 5 months ago
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@TheMonolithany Well I have heard him growl in his newest gigs and he doesn't sound the same...
DemonFromPerdition 5 months ago
0:01 - 10:08 <3
MrColdhellifyer 5 months ago
♥ 2:31-3:15,3:40,4:00,4:43,6:20,6:39,6:48-7:12.7:16,8:56-10:08 ♥ the best song by Opeth
barciz 5 months ago
Can't wait for Brixton! :D
grooveroid 5 months ago
03:41 \m/ epic ORGASM!!!
CHIEFxREAVEN 5 months ago
6:29 EPIC OPETH FAN!!!
JFDrummerforlife 6 months ago
Is it acceptable to want to fuck Mikael's death growl?
retardedmonkeyfisher 6 months ago
@retardedmonkeyfisher Yes
DemonFromPerdition 5 months ago
3:42 MIKAEL FAPPING TIME =D
AeRiSVeLiVoLuSXIII 6 months ago
ha ha , I just noticed after watching this vid several times that the face on the screen behind them looks like the actor Leam Neisen.
drummer25664 6 months ago
where's the HQ? I don't see that...
RXFake 6 months ago
@RXFake This is HQ. Patrol here.
murattyngo 6 months ago
Audience odd time fail.
NapoleanXV 6 months ago
By far the best live performance ive seen from any band
TheMasterbassist69 6 months ago
view number 66,667. Damn how metal this video was before I came.
-kills self-
okmarcelle 6 months ago 4
Opeth is awesome! They have an awesome range of sound and Mikael is one of the best metal vocalists ever! The new song is definitely different without his signature growls and music is a bit different but their sound definitely shines through. it's all about evolution, nothing stays the same..
ReinD59 7 months ago 2
How in the fuck does he do that with his voice!? Mikael Akerfeldt is one of the best vocalists out there.
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Keyboards are totally absent
alemutasa 7 months ago
i love martin mendez's hair so muuuch!
BlackMaidenTallica 7 months ago
I might like this better than Dream Theater if they growled less... oh well, it's still awesome
drummerdude7318 7 months ago
@drummerdude7318 FYI, they have a record without growling, it's called Damnation. No distorted guitars or double bass. Åkerfeldt said that their new album, Heritage, which will be released this year, does not contain very much growling. Dream Theater is an excellent band too.
delzorgan 7 months ago
Damn i luv that man <3 that hair and fucking beast voice oh my god
FrikinVolde11 8 months ago
is it legal to have that voice??
man, i discovered this band today so its kind of historical xd
i fucking love it and i dont know why
i dont like deah neither growl voice but mikael is a monster and i cant help
SebaChannel 8 months ago 55
@SebaChannel Same lol, Opeth is like the only death metal band I can stand to litsen to
KingOfParrots 6 months ago
@SebaChannel check out his work with Bloodbath!
Mastamule 5 months ago
@SebaChannel i love death metal purely because so many of the bands have a lyricist that can SCREAM to get the adrenaline rolling...then vocalize the crowd to a giant dripping vagina while the guitarist and drummer make you melt to pieces......but this shit right here...this shit right here nigga....Wow....
CWillieWilson 4 months ago in playlist Heavy Shit
@SebaChannel Welcome to the wonderful world of metal, my friend. You are looking at one of the very finest examples of it.
McMadman94 2 months ago
@SebaChannel i fucking gree, i don't like death metal either but this is too fucking awesome to ignore
illspirit1965 1 month ago
Wow this band has very loyal fans.
FrikinVolde11 8 months ago
@FrikinVolde11 Oh hell yes, Know all the lyrics.
Kole777 7 months ago
yep..WAAAY better than dream theater
sampo931 8 months ago
why compare? honestly
bassmusicmanAHS 8 months ago
i changed to black shirt before watching this..
himalchulicup 8 months ago 2
these guys are really good (still like nevermore tho that is my favorite progressive metal band)
nightmarealivemetal 9 months ago 2
Opeth live, June 5th Live in Bucharest. I will be there! \m/
TransilvanianMist 9 months ago
I like Opeth.
I like Dream Theater.
They´re both proggressive in their own ways.
I prefer Opeth..
xbladeox 9 months ago
I like Opeth.
I like Dream Theather.
They´re both proggressive in their own ways.
I prefer Opeh..
xbladeox 9 months ago 3
I got bored at 10:09
youtub369 9 months ago
10 minutes and still too short
papm0wl 9 months ago
you know your bad ass when you dont have to dance around like fags to get the attention of the audience
ihaveaverybadcold 9 months ago
I got tickets to the Sonishpere Festival in Knebworth, UK. I'll be seeing the big 4, Motorhead, Mastodon... but I'm actually more excited about seeing Opeth than any other band.
Long live Opeth!!
Ueichen 10 months ago
@Ueichen
i would look forward to opeth and mastodon the most.
Fluffypopcicle 10 months ago
Weird Metal...but i like it
MarcGTA4 10 months ago
dream theater is better if u like fast playing and thats it, the sounds of opeth live and just the genious behind thier music takes the cake when i compare them to dream theater... but hey thats just my view
sphincter1717 10 months ago
@sphincter1717 And of course we don't respect the view of somebody who can't spell "genius" correctly.
ObscureAlchemist 10 months ago
Oh, how heavy the part around 4:20 is ._.
GammaTusks 10 months ago
I wouldn't say they're better than DT... but they are their equals....
quazar68 10 months ago
both Opeth and Dream Theater are badass as fuck. why would anyone make the comparison?
malignantcancer2 11 months ago
London based Progressive Metal Band seeking bass player. Huge Opeth fans!!
IsurusBand 11 months ago
@IsurusBand aww too bad mate i'm from new york and i play bass and i'd love to be in a progessive metal group.. i can send you guys recordings?
ZeroSkater62095 11 months ago
This is the most demanding music I've ever heard in my life!
LGivenUpP93 11 months ago
I probabaly prefer Opeth but DT is really good too, for me their really similar. Opeth is just alot darker and has more folk type stuff in their music....and yah DT's singing can get annoying but they do some pretty sweet prog ballads!
thegearmusic 11 months ago
who ever dislikes this should just die
unholyjuggalo666 11 months ago
Unlike Dreamtheatre at least Opeth's singing doesn't sound like a a monkey on steroids and annoying tuneless keyboard solo's
guitarshredking 11 months ago
Yeah I'm starting to like opeth a lot but I personally think dream theater is more talented and experienced. Not saying that opeth can't get to where DT is today.
metalfiredope 11 months ago
Dream theatre sucks
bl00dr3dxxx 11 months ago
@bl00dr3dxxx just because you don't like them doesn't mean they suck... Opeth is better but dream theater is good too
Metalobsession94 11 months ago
Wow, that is not so much a musical trip as it is an odyssey.
Miki42 11 months ago
Better than Dream Theater: I think not!
33NOL 1 year ago
Mikeal Akerdelft would be a great president.
DrOxTaGoN 1 year ago 2
I'm glad the use PRS's
MyLOLPwny 1 year ago
much jizz has occurred.
RedSoil8780 1 year ago
mikael akerfeldt is my favorite singer
MetaaIhoofd 1 year ago 5
do you know how cool it would be to have a growl voice like him? i would reply like that to all my fuckin teachers at school.
SASPython 1 year ago 23
@SASPython Ya dude, his growl is fucking beast!
addicted2music111 8 months ago
@SASPython I've came very close to his growl...it's awesome to shout at people like that...the just stare and start walking fast xD
dzedav11 7 months ago
That guy has such an beautiful voice.
streepenkit 1 year ago 5
this is SO much better than dream theater
hajlajfftw 1 year ago 85
@hajlajfftw uhhhhhhhh sorry but no
platinumshadow1 11 months ago
@hajlajfftw This is so much DIFFERENT than Dream Theater. It's all about personal taste/opinion. Only idiots make such comparisons.
metalrules13 11 months ago 3
@metalrules13 The only reason people seem to compare them is because the song length is similar. I don't understand it either.
CrackeTheSkull 11 months ago
@hajlajfftw how can you make that comparison? that's also just like, your opinion man
TrajektorieLogik 11 months ago 3
@hajlajfftw This Shit is the same as Dream Theater, but this is the Death Metal version of Them! \m/
ripperpp16 10 months ago
@ripperpp16 How dare you insult Opeth by saying they are the same as Dream Theater? DT wishes they could be this awesome.
metalwillhatecrew 10 months ago
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ripperpp16 10 months ago
@metalwillhatecrew --' Akerfeldt's favourite band is DT, my two favourite bands are Opeth and DT, it's not an insult in any manner to say that Opeth is somewhat like them, every band would like to ear that compliment... I said that about Opeth in a good way :)
ripperpp16 10 months ago
@hajlajfftw you're not right man, its definitely not better than Dream Theather, this is another opera...
mrdeathamore 10 months ago
@mrdeathamore You're not right. Dream Theater are awful whereas Opeth are amazing.
metalwillhatecrew 10 months ago
@metalwillhatecrew
you're not in the position to diss on dream theater considering you like children of bodom enough to include them in your filename. dream theater are amazing, if you diss on them you're dissing on opeth as well considering how much they have influenced opeth.
Fluffypopcicle 10 months ago
@Fluffypopcicle
This is total bullshit. Hating the influences doesn't make you hate the band. I fucking hate The Beatles but they influenced a shitload of my favourite bands. Not only that, but Mikael said himself that the inspiration for Opeth songs DOES NOT COME FROM METAL, so it certainly doesn't come from fucking Dream Theater.
Dream Theater sucks. Get over it.
21stCSchizoidName 10 months ago
@21stCSchizoidName
"I don't see the point of playing in a band and going just one way when you can do everything. It would be impossible for us to play just death metal; that is our roots, but we are now a mishmash of everything, and not purists to any form of music." direct quote from mikael, you fail. i would also like to see you give a valid reason why dream theater sucks because they obviously don't.
Fluffypopcicle 10 months ago
@Fluffypopcicle
Reasons why Dream Theater sucks:
-Their songs are long for the sake of being long, and often meander
-Showy, boring soloing comprises a large part of their music
-They try too hard to be progressive and fail in the process --> pretentious
-Their vocalist blows chunks
Whether or not you believe these reasons are valid is up to you; they're valid enough for me.
21stCSchizoidName 10 months ago
@21stCSchizoidName
oh, and you know what's funny about your statements about why dream theaters sucks is that YOU AREN'T PART OF THE BAND. how would you know how they songwrite again? you don't. i can tell you first hand that very odd time signatures, complexity, and long songwriting comes instinctively after a while. it's not that they're trying to be complicated, their styles just are complicated.
Fluffypopcicle 10 months ago
@Fluffypopcicle
Sticking every nook and cranny of your songs with odd times and flashy solos comes off as extremely pretentious to me. Not only that, but making sure your songs exceed a certain length (they're guilty of this especially on their most recent albums) comes off as such as well. The fact that their songs are meandering and often have completely irrelevant sections points to trying hard too--when in doubt, stick in a solo or a boring, slow, 'proggy' part!
21stCSchizoidName 10 months ago
@21stCSchizoidName
please, a nightmare to remember was long, but it was extremely tasteful the whole way through and never got boring. you see, this what happens when people don't listen to enough classical, they think that everything is overly complicated and extremely long. if you diss on dream theater for those reasons you're basically saying classical is crappy too. i never said they didn't have rock influences, but even mikael says that their core is death metal.
Fluffypopcicle 10 months ago
@Fluffypopcicle
Have you looked at my profile? My name, even? I adore complex music. But when you start to ape post-CttE Yes (yes, Dream Theater is almost at the same level of pompousness as that) and add in a bunch of metal clichés, that's when your music starts to become ridiculous. If you want tasteful long songs, try Larks' Tongues in Aspic 1, Close to the Edge, Thick as a Brick, all the songs from VdGG's Pawn Hearts... no goddamn clichés, no showy solos.
21stCSchizoidName 10 months ago
@21stCSchizoidName
metal cliches? dream theater does NOT use any metal cliches, they might be the least cliche band of all time. showy solos? how do you know that john does that just to show off and doesn't enjoy doing it? you don't because you're not john and his solos are melodic and tasteful anyways.
Fluffypopcicle 10 months ago
@Fluffypopcicle
Everybody enjoys showing off. Obviously he doesn't have the self-restraint to calm the fuck down. His solos may be melodic when examined from a theory standpoint but they sound like cacophony; tasteful, they definitely aren't. When I refer to clichés, I refer to their pretty generic chugging riffs--but maybe me calling that a cliché is a sign that I'm starting to enjoy metal less and less.
DT the least cliche band--even in metal? You ought to broaden your musical horizons.
21stCSchizoidName 10 months ago
@21stCSchizoidName
look at my file and look under "bands and artists i appreciate" and if you think i need to broaden my horizon then you are the god of music. they hardly ever chug, and when they do it's not the generic deathcore chugging crap. "His solos may be melodic when examined from a theory standpoint but they sound like cacophony; tasteful, they definitely aren't." it sounds good to me and several other dt fans. just because you don't like it doesn't mean it's not good.
Fluffypopcicle 10 months ago
@Fluffypopcicle
So you pretty much listen exclusively to music with guitars in it. Like I said, broaden your musical horizons. Check out the underground scene and you'll find more talent than Dream Theater could ever hope to have.
Also, there are people who think Brokencyde sounds good. That doesn't make them any more listenable.
21stCSchizoidName 10 months ago
@21stCSchizoidName
yeah, because apparently herbie hancock, yuki kajiura, vivaldi, beethoven, and nas are exclusively guitar musicians! i have dabbled in more underground music than 99.9% of the people that have ever lived on this planet. from milan polak, to yuki kajiura, to aeveron, to derdian, the list goes on. over 50% of the bands i list are underground. also, you're comparing brokencyde, an entirely computer generated band to dream theater. epic fail.
Fluffypopcicle 10 months ago
@Fluffypopcicle
What the fuck does being 'computer generated' have to with anything? ANYONE can learn to play an instrument well, only a few have the talent to actually do it with. Whether or not you take the easier route and use electronics to make music is irrelevant, there are plenty of electronic artists who make good music (Venetian Snares, to name one).
I'd suggest you stop using the phrase "epic fail", it's not helping the image I have of you.
21stCSchizoidName 10 months ago
@Fluffypopcicle
Anyway--of course you have a couple of artists who make music with only a little/without guitars on that list. It's an xbox huge list. But what ís on there is predominantly guitar music (i.e. rock, metal and some punk); hence "_pretty much_ exclusively". Besides, the artists you do name that make guitarless music are pretty much entry-level to their respective genres: you may like them, but I think it's safe to say that your taste mostly goes out to rock/metal... right?
21stCSchizoidName 10 months ago
@21stCSchizoidName
no, most of the specific guitarists i mention play fusion which is by far my favorite genre for the past couple of months. as for bands, it's mostly metal. at least 15 genres of metal within that list, but yes, it's still metal. rock too, but the majority f "bands" i listen to are rock and metal, but most bands in the world involve guitars in them anyways, and i leave out a lot of the jazz and classical artists i enjoy on my list.
Fluffypopcicle 10 months ago
@21stCSchizoidName
continuing: "We started with death metal and moved on to a hybrid of everything else; there were never as into extreme music, so we come from completely different backgrounds. But they were very influential to me in the early days of this band." he is responding to a question of whether dream theater influenced him or not. you fail in every way possible.
Fluffypopcicle 10 months ago
@Fluffypopcicle
>>in the early days of this band
Ha, I'm not surprised. The Dream Theater 'influences' do sort of shine through in their first two albums, in that those albums comprised of the same long and meandering songs DT made. Except Mikael has outright said he was growing to dislike the sound they had going on there, and I can't blame him: those albums are too long and just boring-ass Gothenburg melodeath knock-offs.
But I'll stand corrected; it's the right thing to do.
21stCSchizoidName 10 months ago
@Fluffypopcicle
The only way in which early Opeth was progressive is in the length of their songs. The true progressive influences started with My Arms, Your Hearse and continued growing from there. 'The Drapery Falls' has one of their most progressive parts ever (the 5/8 middle section), the album Damnation is straight-up prog rock and Watershed is arguably their most progressive album yet.
21stCSchizoidName 10 months ago
@21stCSchizoidName
that's what i meant. dream theater's songs are almost always very long and i didn't see any death metal band making songs that long (except maybe death) at the time so that's probably how they were influenced by them.
Fluffypopcicle 10 months ago
@21stCSchizoidName
oh, and ONE more thing. there is a difference between hate and disrespect. hating somebody's influences does not mean you hate the band, but disrespecting them means you are also disrespecting the part of the band that was influenced by them. in this case you are dissing the progressiveness of opeth seeing as how that's most likely how they were influenced by dream theater most.
Fluffypopcicle 10 months ago
@Fluffypopcicle
You must be completely deluded to believe that Mikael's progressive influences are from Dream Theater and not from the 70s prog bands such as King Crimson, Yes, Genesis, and obscure bands like Comus. He says that pretty much everytime he's asked in interviews: when he writes metal music, he is not _influenced_ by metal music. Opeth was _not_ influenced by Dream Theater; if any modern prog band did influence them, it's Porcupine Tree.
21stCSchizoidName 10 months ago
@hajlajfftw i know it's your own opinion, but you can't really say that because you can't even compare them. TOTALLY FUCKING DIFFERENT.
Mechanix1911 9 months ago
@Mechanix1911 You can compare anything. And they're both in the realm of progressive metal. And Opeth is better.
Drezin86 9 months ago
@Drezin86 you can compare them if you like, but you need some way to compare them, and everybody's got their own taste in music. i like both dream theater and opeth, and they play quite different styles of progressive metal, so please dont oversimplify things by saying they're just prog metal, it doesnt mean they can be compared that easily.
luckyluke193 9 months ago
@hajlajfftw
Not that you can really compare the both.
Sure, they both play Prog metal, but the sounds are two totally different worlds.
Big love to both of 'em
XGLDF 9 months ago
@XGLDF
@Mechanix1911
Okey you retards, I just told my opinion. I am not comparing them, I'm just saying that dream theater suck and that Opeth is one of the best progressive death metal band in the world.
hajlajfftw 9 months ago
@hajlajfftw Opeth one of my fav bands, unique style, you cant compare with dream theater, dream its about complexity, virtuosity, opeth its so diferent, more powerfull, Better vocals
rixxxer 8 months ago
@hajlajfftw AAAAAWWWWW YEEEEAAAAAAHHHH!!!!!!!!!
bsspyro96 8 months ago
@hajlajfftw fuck u both r massively amazing
iMAGMUN8MOTioN00nuKE 8 months ago 3
@hajlajfftw Fuck u and people who gave you thumbs up. Both are awesome in their own way.
metaldoood 8 months ago 23
@hajlajfftw ben and jerries ice cream is SO much better than hand made itaian shoes...(both fantastic in differnt ways)
DoctorDjent 8 months ago
@hajlajfftw well it sure is heavier and it sure is "progressivier"
felphero 8 months ago
@hajlajfftw
like em both tbh.
Maxarcc 8 months ago
@hajlajfftw masters
raven2craft 7 months ago
After loving Damnation, I decided to check out more of Opeth's music. They have the best of everything all in one! Death growls, calm complex melodies, blazing fast double kick, and magnificent singing. I love OPETH \M/
DrummersRock23 1 year ago 2
I got chills at 2:48
Shahrrah 1 year ago
they should be at least as famous as megadeath or pantera, altough they arent the same style; opeth from the complexity is at least as good
sebiis18 1 year ago 42
@sebiis18 and SO amazing live its unbelievable. they deserve even more fame, and the only reason that theyre not is because mainstream metal (<<not a bad thing! ;)) took over the 95% of the whole scene :(
shenkeey 1 year ago 4
@sebiis18 Opeth is the Metallica of Death Metal... any fan of True Metal will agree with that. Whether or not they're recognized that way by the mainstream is irrelevant when it comes to this genre. The only difference is that Opeth hasn't come out with a "Load" equivalent yet. Watershed is their Black Album (in a positive way, obviously.) Please god don't make a Load equivalent. Opeth has done for Death Metal what Metallica did for Thrash. Evolve it, Perfect it, and put it on the map.
CrackeTheSkull 11 months ago
@CrackeTheSkull Opeth is NOT a Death Metal band!
metalrules13 11 months ago
@metalrules13 Was that a Joke? There's no way you can argue that their earlier albums weren't death metal. Not the traditional grindcore shit but Progressive/Melodic Death Metal.
CrackeTheSkull 11 months ago
@CrackeTheSkull Nope, Opeth was never really Death Metal. They had some Death Metal elements (mostly of Melodic Death Metal), but that doesn't make them a Death Metal band. A lot of people think that they are DM because of the vocals, and they can be classified as Progressive Death Metal, but they didn't "evolve" Death Metal or anything. They just took a few of the genre's elements and played a different style.
Btw, grindcore is not Death Metal either.
metalrules13 11 months ago
@metalrules13 Wait, what? So, they can be classified as a Progressive DEATH METAL band, yet they aren't Death Metal? C'mon man, what the hell?
They evolved it in the sense that they layed out the blueprint for a newer, more unique style of Death Metal (or Normal Metal, whatever you want to call it) Never before Opeth did I see a band blend that type of Growling and Normal Singing vocals together in one song and make it work. Not many bands have used it yet but eventually the scene will catch on
CrackeTheSkull 11 months ago
@CrackeTheSkull I know what you mean, but I think that it's not an evolution, but a completely different style. The Death Metal vocals are just one of the several aspects of Opeth's sound. Personally, I refer to Opeth as Progressive Extreme Metal.
And yeah, they were one of the first bands to combine clean singing and growling, although their friends in the band "Edge Of Sanity" did it a few years earlier than Opeth. Great band btw, if you like Opeth you'll definite