@Yonah613 I am gentile, but I consider myself Messianic because I hold to the same core beliefs. We, christian (same term as messianic) and jew share a heritage. Many christians are returning back to their heritage and what the Bible says. We do not agree with the Catholic beliefs and see that it is in contradiction to Adonai. We see Zech. 14:16 and want to worship Him as He has prescribed. Much love my friend.
@MrILoveYeshua Messianic Judaism to the world will mean Salvation for our souls and the comming the Yeshua !"
No, it just means that that more people will be converted to fundamentalist (Baptist) Christianity - no different than the fundamentalists who AREN'T in drag.
It is a great wrong doing in Judaism to convert anyone to another faith. Even if the people are not Jewish to start with. Also in Judaism we do not try to convert people to Judaism. A soul must come and want to change by their own personal private choice.
J4J, Mormons, Jehovahs witnesses, and many evangelical Christians (messyantics) go out and harass people to convert them, then they wonder why we get so offended.
That is not generally true, biblically we are to provide the good news. If the person rejects it, we dust off our shoes and go on. However in Judaism the culture is different which is to debate a topic. Which is what I love about jews, to get the heart of the matter. If you don't want to listen, tell them exactly that. Most should respect that.
Zionism NOT the works of God but those of the Antichrist, synagogue of satan. Nor are the "Jews" in Zionism from the seed of David or Moses or Abraham or Jesus. They are a forgery of Khazarian decent. They are a fake - an imitation chosen by Lucifer. They are NOT the descendants of the 12 tribes of Israel. Nor has the true Israel been established at the right time. Israel IS COUNTERFEIT!
"Come out of her, my people, that ye be not partakers of her sins, and that ye receive not of her plagues".
The faith of the Messianic Jews is the Judaism of the Bible (Biblical Judaism) and is centered on the Messiah and the salvation He brings, and they don't have to go through the Sages or the Rabbis to know God. They have access to God because of the great atoning work of Yeshua HaMashiach, Israel's Chief Rabbi, who has fulfilled them as Jewish Believers and fulfilled Judaism itself.
The reason why the 'mezuzah' CAN be deceptively OK 4 a Messianic Jew; there are 3 basic tenets of misrepresentation in Xtianity. 1) According to New Testament (Romans?, but I saw the passage) it's ok to mislead, to get a person to convert to Xtianity (what J for J or Messianic Judaism really is). 2) Permissable mis- or wrong- translation of the Original Hebrew bible & scriptures to e.g. the KJV & other bible. 3) Literal interpretation of Old Testament & scriptures - totally against Judaism.
Hatikva is a Romanian song! For over 500 years, Jewish people lived amongst Romanians and when they left took the song with them! Romanian culture have many things in common with Hebrew culture, but as they are too prideful orthodox they doesn't want to see it or accept it! I was one of them but Hashem by Hs grace saved me and gave me a new life in Yeshua, who came fist time in the character of Yeshua ben Yousef and will come back SOON in the character of Yeshua be David, the glorious King!
As an Orthodox Jew I can truly and Boastfully (I Only Boast in the L-RD) proclaim BARUKH HABA B'SHEM ADONAI YESHUA MELEKH HA MASHIACH! Thank you for such a Beautiful Video! Shavua Tov!
@MenechemShaul, you cannot be an orthodox Jew and a Christian! You do NOT need to circumcise your baby boys any more (e.g. read Paul's epistle to the Galatians), or follow all the Mitzvote. An orthodox Jew is an idol worshipper - he continues to worship the Torah. Do you still want to see Sabbath breakers or rebellious sons STONED to death, as the Torah permits (see Exodus 31:15; Deut. 21)?
@hannahr77, if you want to reply to any comment I've made, fine, but try to reply with reason - or don't bother at all! As Paul's epistle says: "For we maintain that a person is justified by faith APART FROM THE WORKS OF THE LAW" (Romans 3:28). The Torah enables us to define sin, but the lives of Christians are not controlled or bound by the Law.
What counts is being "a new creation". Circumcision has no importance or value(Galatians chapter 6).
Do you know that Paul kept the law of Moses, a new creation is within, meaning that you shouldn’t be doing the same stuff as before, should we follow the 10 commandments or not? Yes circumcision has value for Jews still. You being self righteous and judgemental, you have no right to say that the othodox Jews are idol worshipper, it's ppl like you that keep the Jews from coming to faith in YESHUA, Shabat is the only GOD given day of rest not the pagan sunday
GOD has a perpetual covenant with HIS ppl the Jews isn’t that right? YESHUA came first to HIS ppl and in no way shape or form did HE tell them to do away with the law.
Romans 9
Theirs is the adoption to sonship; theirs the divine glory, the covenants, the receiving of the law, the temple worship and the promises. 5 Theirs are the patriarchs, and from them is traced the human ancestry of the Messiah, who is God over all, forever praised! Amen.
Beautiful video. I have nothing but gratitude, honour, and love for the Jewish people. I made your God my God with determination on understanding Him and seeing Him in His Son, Jesus of Nazareth. I have joy at the thought that the time of the Gentiles is about over and that we will have the honour to pass the Good News back to the Jews to see them take it over the finish line in victory. I see it's already beginning! God bless you, and us! I am so glad to be in this generation.
i can not blame u even if i want cuz is against my religion. but i can't agree with one : Jerusalem it's historical city of three religions : Islam Christianity and Judaism. It's a fact (take a look in history of Jerusalem)
and by the way it is not my law it is the law of god which yeshua perfectly kept and taught. However instead of providing proper arguments for your belief you pathetically try to persuade me using humanism which is the enemy of the Lord. Remember the amalekits. Did the almighty instruct the israelites to forgive them. God forbid.
Are you going that far to make a blasphemous statement saying that this was wrong of the Holy one who never changes ( and thus his law never changes)??
I do not intend to be insulting but this statement is riddicolous. Not only do you offend the word of the almighty you also reject anything such as righteousness and make up your man-made doctrine and lack of concept how to handle things. The church settles matter?? Did you get that from the pope or what. righteousness means that you can do the same to me correct. Do you know what that means, I´d think a 100 times before hurting anyone. Got it?? :-) da world would be less violent then huh?
romans 13, 7... love means fulfilling the law and nothing else. if christians were on the right track they´d follow yeshua and keep the torah as he perfectly did.
Yes indeed however the apostle Shaul says that love is what fulfills the law. That means that if you love the Almighty you´ll not worship anybody else, not profane his shabbat ... And the love for one´s enemies was already commanded in torah.
Again i say the christians have completely misunderstood the true ahavat of the scripture.
This is hate! Yeshua was more Jewish than you and those who practice talmudism and kabalah... Yeshua is coming back, the one that was crucified by the Romans is coming back to rule over all of this word...there is no other jew who can do this...no other! He is the Messiah of Israel for the rest of the world...if Messiah will judge your words...think again, you hate Yeshua...a Jewish Rabbi and Messiah.
Hashem will judge all. don t be sly in speech like Paul the bald headed 13th man from nowhere and given free reign in rome where only righteous where slaughtered.
the reckoning will be for the eye and the minions who embraced the corrupt power of nations. we the poor are simple and undersrtand the law just like Hashem who rebuked those sly and lazy people, "Are my Laws hard to understand or follow?"
In fact Yeshu didn't fulfill any of the prophecies. Prophecies of the "messiah" are many active prophecies that require action.
Building the Temple
Bring back the exiles
Expand the knowledge of Torah to the WHOLE world
Re-establish the monarchy in Israel...
He did none of these. G-d is true and trustworthy. He delivered a perfect and whole instruction(Torah) to an entire nation to witness for credibility to all generations.
I say to you that many will come from the east and the west, and will take their places at the feast with Abraham, Isaac and Jacob in the kingdom of heaven. But the subjects of the kingdom will be thrown outside, into the darkness, where there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth.
BUT IS THIS THE END OF THE STORY? IS NOT GOD GOING TO SAVE ISRAEL, VINDICATION? YES HE IS!
Read the whole chapter of Romans 11:
"Did God reject his people? By no means! I am an Israelite myself!"
Im a former christian who now believe the laws and the one G'o'd of israel.
Jesus cannot be the messiah as he has not fulfill ALL prophecy.
Hashem made grand miracles and swore the chosen ppl to be the light.
mysterious jesus who only a handful witness is not consistent to Hashem character to change the laws. If he did he wud have to make a world wide miracle inorder to prevent misunderstanding.
Jesus didnt come back. Hashem say prophecy must all b true 2 be real.
Daniel 9:24-26 speaks about the appointed time of the Messiah. He had to come, be crucified and rise from the dead before the destruction of the Second Temple. The crucifixion, resurrection and ascencion of Yeshua (JESUS) took place in 30 A.D. before the fall of Jerusalem and the destruction of the Second Jewish Temple in 70 A.D. You have a choice sheldonyap, either Yeshua is the Messiah or there in none.
The prophecy in Daniel says an anointed person will be cut off, that can be any king or priest anointed according to the regulations of Torah. and the passage in daniel says nothing that if no one accepts the specific anointed person being talked about, then they will go to hell.
Dont you think that something that carries such a heavy punishment would be more obvious in a prophecy to look out for in future generations? Don't you think that it would be a fair warning to let the people know the accept this person or die?
Yes it would be fair and obvious IF it were existent in the prophecy. but it DOESNT EXIST within the prophecy my friends...
19They went out from us, but they did not really belong to us. For if they had belonged to us, they would have remained with us; but their going showed that none of them belonged to us.
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Jesus Christ is King of Jews.
If Jesus is our king , we must be Jews.
Jesus destroyed the temple , and then rebuilt it in three days. He destroyed the temple , then rebuilt the faith. We are Jews to believe in Jesus Christ.
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twist and turn it, meld it into a plat, squeeze the juice from it, curse and scream, anger and toil, sweat and beards, stiffnecked and self righteous, suppressed emotions, farce, and the wind floats free across the plains and rolls thru the trees caressing their leaves. the stars blink and the sun burns
SHALOM! Did you know that Yeshua (JESUS) the Messiah suffered and died for the atonement of sins and resurrected on the third day. He was pierced for our transgressions and crushed for our iniquities, therefore he was sacrificed as the Lamb of God who takes away the sins of the world by the sheding of his precious holy blood (see Isaiah 53:5-7, John 1:29, Hebrews 9 & 13:11-12 and Revelation 1:5). Yeshua HaMashiach is the atonement on Yom Kippur, AMEN.
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SHALOM! Yeshua (JESUS) was crucified and died physically on the Passover and He became not only the sacrificial lamb given for the sins of many but also His blood covers everyone's beings ("Doorposts" = Hearts and Souls) as a sign so that the great judgement (angel of death) will "Pass-over" us in these end-times! When everyone's former selves die in Him, their new everlasting beings live with him as He, YESHUA IS LIFE itself. Yeshua HaMashiach is the Passover Lamb (1 Corinthians 5:7), AMEN.
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SHALOM! Did you know that Yeshua (JESUS) the Messiah resurrected on the Feast of the First Fruits (see 1 Corinthians 15:20). He is the firstfruits of the resurrection and through him we shall all be alive. Yeshua HaMashiach is the resurrection and the life on Yom HaBikkurim, AMEN.
There is only one Messiah. Yeshua is the Jewish Messiah, the begotten Son of HaShem. You want proof? See Pslam 2:7, Proverbs 30:4, Isaiah 7:14 and Isaiah 9:6. HaMoshiach ze echad, Yeshua ze HaMashiach Yehudi, Bar HaElohim.
PSALM (learn to spell!) 2:7 speaks of David and Proverbs 30:4 of Moses. If you knew Hebrew, you'd know that the word 'Alma' in Isaiah 7:14 means 'maiden,' not 'virgin.' Isaiah 9:6 is about Moshiach, who has not yet come. You think Jesus brought 'boundless peace'?!?!
Also, a clarification: Messiah comes from Moshiach, 'The Annointed One.' NOWHERE in Torah is there any nonsense about the Messiah being G-d, son of G-d, whatever. That is taken directly from Roman paganism.
How dare you say what God cannot do. What makes you think you can do anything that God can't do? It's hypocritical, rediculous and insane. God can do anything according to his will, he can interact with his creation. Take a deeper look, God has revealed and appeared in human form a number of times in the Tanakh (Genesis 3:8, Genesis 18:1-14, Genesis 32:24-30, Exodus 24:9-11, Joshua 5:13-15, Judges 13:22, Proverbs 30:4).
(continued)Isaiah 7:14 and Isaiah 9:6 speaks about the birth of the Messiah, Immanuel from Isaiah 7:14 means "God with us", God came to earth from heaven and manifested and incarnated in the flesh in the person of Yeshua the Messiah. After all, he's God so he can do anything.
Before there can be peace in the world, all people must recognize their sinful condition and repent (see Jeremiah 3:13-18). The Messiah Yeshua will not force peace upon the world, regardless of its spiritual condition. Yeshua came in a humble fashion (see Zechariah 9:9)to die as an atonement for sins (see Isaiah 53).
continued)He will return to rule, at which time we will recognize him as the one who was pierced, the one who died as an atonement for sin (see Zechariah 12:10). At his return, he will usher in the Messianic Age-a time that everyone has been waiting for; a time of true peace in the world (see Isaiah 11).
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Some people are so clever it frightens me! If they were all 'Fiery-hot like you, the world would be great! The problem is that they are 'luke-warm' and shall be spewed from His mouth at the Great white Throne Judgement. Narrow is the gate that lead to evrlasting life. Love you Brother. Aaron
ssigman=You are mistaken. Pslam 2:7 does not speak of David, it speaks of the Messiah being the Son of God and Proverbs 30:4 does not speak about Moses, it speaks about God sending his son Yeshua the Messiah. King David was not just the King of Israel, he was also a prophet.
kofstjoan2004: Are you sure you want to stick with your statement that "there is only one Messiah"? Do you even know the definition of the term?
FYI, "messiah" is the English derivative of the Hebrew word, Mashiach. And mashiach simply means, anointed, and/or anointed one. Furthermore, there have been hundreds of 'anointed ones' [messiahs] throughout Israel's history, e.g., Aaron the high priest, and all of the kings of Israel - Saul being the first (1 Samuel 10:1).
Notice in Isaiah 45:1, the Persian King, Cyrus the Great, is described by HaShem as being, His anointed.
In Daniel 9:24-27, three messiahs are mentioned, and from Jewish history we know who they are. Cyrus the Great, King Agrippa, & the Roman Titus who destroyed Jerusalem. And no knowledgeable Torah Jew associates them with the long awaited messiah, who will be present during an era of worldwide peace, and total knowledge of G-d, (Isa. 2:1-4, Jer. 31:31-40, Micah 4:1-3, Zech 8:23, 9:9-17).
tngoatee=It says in Daniel 9:24-26 that the Messiah shall be cut off but not for himself and the people of the prince that shall come shall destroy the city and the sanctuary. The prophet Daniel is very clear in what he is saying that the Messiah will come and die before the fall of Jerusalem and the destruction of the Second Jewish Temple.
Knowledgeable Torah Jews know that your Xtian interpretations of this passage are incorrect. Why? In the messianic age, there will be worldwide peace, the Temple will be rebuilt, and this 'anointed one' will sit on the throne of his father David. In order for your Xtian theory to work, you [Xtians] have to ignore all biblical statements to that effect.
Believe what you want to, but your notions about our future Davidic King [The Messiah] are completely irrelevant to us.
That is where you are wrong tngoatee. I've learned about the Messianic timetable according to Daniel the prophet at Yahoo, the prophet Daniel is correct and accurate that the Messiah have to come by the 1st century A.D. and that he will be crucified and later resurrect in 30 A.D. before Jerusalem will fall and the Second Jewish Temple is destroyed in 70 A.D.
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Peace is something that can't be bought, peace begins in the heart. The Messiah Yeshua in his first coming came to make peace in the hearts of humanity and to make peace between mankind and God. He will bring peace on earth when he returns.
Matthew 1:1-17 speaks about the genealogy of Yeshua HaMashiach. There were fourteen generations from Abraham to King David, fourteen generations from King David to the exile in Babylon, and fourteen generations from then to the birth of the Messiah. You can also refer to 2 Kings 24:14-15, 2 Chronicles 36:10, and Jeremiah 27:20.
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Read Luke 1:26-38, there you will find the answers to your question how Yeshua is a patrilineal descendant of King David even if he was a product of a virgin conception.
Regarding Isaiah 7:14, and 9:6. In the Tanach, the Hebrew word "messiah" is NOT found in any of those two passages. Needless to say, there is NO mention of "the messiah" either.
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Yeshua HaMashiach is known as Messiah Ben David, Messiah Ben Joseph and Messiah Ben Yahweh. Therefore He will be king (see 2 Samuel 7:12-16) and He is an heir to the throne of David (see Isaiah 9:7 and Luke 1:26-38).
We have gone over this numerous times, and your claims only appear credible to those who:
1) Refuse to engage in intellectually honest discourse.
2) Do not understand the Burden of proof - the fallacy and legal term.
3) Benefit of assumption.
4) Rules of evidence.
* Please find an excellent English dictionary to look up these terms. Really knight...2004, you truly DO NOT know what you are talking about. Only miso-Judaic, and/or IGNORANT Xtn audiences appreciate your stuff.
And by the way tngoatee don't say that Isaiah 53 is about the nation of Israel because that is cleary not about the nation of Israel at all, it is about the Suffering Servant Messiah. The rabbis long before Rashi knew that Isaiah 53 was about the Messiah. How can Israel die for the sins of Israel? Isaiah 52:13-15 is also about the Messiah.
They can't man, but of course Israel wont accept that. They will continue to argue that Israel died for Israel or for the world. But if Israel was and is that pure then why did God almost eradicate them in the desert - to replace them with a people from Moses seed? Of course this they always forget, or how Daniel or Ezikiel wept and confessed the sins of Israel. No, Israel is pure and a savior of mankind (NOT!). Sure they will be vindicated one day but they can't surely take the place of Jesus!
Okay,Keyword, SERVANT. Isa 41:8, 42:19, 43:10 (my witnessES are you MY SERVANT(plural, i.e. Israel), 44:1, 45:4, 49:3, 52:13, 53:11... All the way from chapter 41 to 49, it is irrefutable that the servant explained here is Israel. IT SAY IT WITHIN THE TEXT W/O QUESTION. In 42:19, it even says the servant was blind and deaf (in other words acting foolishly). Then in 43:10, the servant is actually PLURAL WITNESSES! Ch 44,ISRAEL IS THE SERVANT, 45, AGAIN. ALL THE WAY TO 49 ISRAEL IS THE SERVANT,
Why then suddenly is the servant in Isaiah a different character? This makes absolutely no sense. The SERVANT IS ISRAEL! 53 represents only the righteous of Israel. israel will bring a message to the entire world after their suffering, the rest of Isaiah testifies to this.
All right let the Truth - be - told. Your thinking raises some questions about chapter 53, please teach me:
*Why is the prophet Isaiah identifying himself with the gentiles when saying [the servant] "took up our infirmities and carried our sorrows" in vers 4. Why doesnt he say: we took up their sorrows and carried their infirmities, yet they considered us smitten by God? Seem like a valid question, are some rabbi teachers right when they say that this role of Israel as savior is farstretched?
1st ?: Isaiah is speaking in the perspective of the nations about the servant. who is the servant? (Isa 44:21). it says "he was wounded because of our[the nations] sins, crushed because of our[the nations] iniquities.". From what i can see, it says that he made intercession, or in other words took the beatings because of the evil of the nations (v12). Israel isn't savior, Israel is there so that "through him(the servant) The L-rds purpose might prosper.
*How can Israel justify the gentiles when the prophet himself states in Isaiah 1, that Israel is unrighteous [corrupt, evil and have forsaken the Lord etc.] Can a sinner justify another sinner?
*The crimes against the jews brings judgement on their enemies, not slavation for the gentiles.
*The servant suffers willingly, Israel has never suffered willingly under the gentiles.
*Verses 8, 9 &12 states clearly that he dies, Israel has never and can't ever die (Jeremia 31:35-36)
(2) Israel is not eternally wicked that's taking things out of context(44:22). Isa 66:20, The nations bring Israel back to their land as an OFFERING! TO BRING ATONEMENT BY FOLLOWING G-D'S PURPOSE.(3)The crimes against Israel will be used by G-d in the future to prove to the nations what power G-d has. The servant suffers willingly? this is nowhere in 53 from what i understand.(this is a shortened version i'll make an entire blog about this and you can read it later)
(4)Verses 8, 9. and 12 states the servant dies. yet v10 says he shall see his seed(descendants). let's see which makes more sense, can this be Yeshu? 1. he died. 2. he had no seed. so NOPE! How about Israel 1. MANY PEOPLE OF ISRAEL HAVE BEEN KILLED BY THE NATIONS 2. Yet, REGARDLESS, Israel's seed prolongs!!! I will make blog and cross reference the verses in 53 with as many other verse that show it is talking about Israel (G-d willing)
Jeremia says clearly that Israel can not die!! No matter if she is taken to Assyria, Babylon or killed by the evil Hitler. God won't let his firstborn son die, it would make him unto a lier even if he would to return Israel back again to the land. Read Jeremiah 31:35-36 again. For Israel to be considered dead, the wolrd would end. Even if it was to be just for a moment, God won't even reflect on that point. He loves indeed.
Jeremiah clearly states that Israel will REMAIN A NATION! this doesn't mean that MANY MANY OF ISRAEL won't DIE at the hands of the wicked nations. ISA 53 testifies to this. The servant (Israel) will be killed (not the nation as a whole, but many of the people) but will see it's SEED(offspring) and prolong days. the Hebrew word zera3(seed) is always a word referring to physical descendants. THIS CAN'T BE YESHU. this can ONLY apply to Israel. Yeshu never had children.
(continued). I challenge you with a question. How in any way can Isaiah 53 be referring to Yeshu when in v10 it says he was crushed by disease and also has children? Yeshu wasn't killed by disease nor was he ever diseased in his life (according to the n.t.). How can it be referring to him if it says he has offspring? This can only be referring to Israel since Israel both suffered death (many of the people of Israel died) and has descendants (so therefore not a FULL death).
Read again, or better, give me your email address and I will send you an Ebook explaning to you that Yeshua, not "yeshu" healed the nations of the world because He was the Kurban who died for your sins. He was killed and then the Beit Mikdash was destroyed, that is why no more sacrifices YHWH Adonay wanted to accept from anyone. Daniel 9:26! Where will you spend your eternity?
@rocermi61 no thanks. I've read it. Just because i don't fall for false xtian interpretations doesn't mean i haven't read enough. i spent a year reading that book trying to figure it out. and it's always the same bogus arguments. thanks but no thanks.
Where i spend eternity depends on my repentance and observance of the Holy and perfect Torah.
And the last question I have about the suffering servant of Isaiah 53 is this:
* The prophets states that the servant dies for his own people, in verse 8:
"for the transgression of my people he was stricken". How can Israel then die or suffer for the gentiles? We are not the seed of Abraham, we are not considered to be the same people as Israel. How can you than suffer for us?
53 is in the perspective of the nations. Israel suffers for the nations... Anyway, we can see from the plain meaning that almost the whole book of Isaiah is referring to the suffering of Israel in the "end times". There is proof of this in the text. The best you have is speculation. p.s. isa 53:10 is parallel to Ezek 36:23. Through him the servanat (Israel) G-d purpose and holiness will be manifested. Peace. Enough of my rambling.
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Although Joseph is not Yeshua's biological father, as his stepfather he was His legal guardian. Thus Joseph provides a patrilineal (fathers side) tie to the line of David for Yeshua. This is why Joseph's genealogy is included in the New Covenant record. Since there was no earthly, biological father outside of the Davidic line, Yeshua had no non-Davidic father that would give Him a lineage other than that of King David.
(continued) On the other hand, even if only His mother was in the line of David, it would still be sufficient for Yeshua to be of Davidic lineage. Some traditional rabbis might protest that the mothers side cannot give genealogical credentials, and it is true that the biblical records are patrilineal. However, in the Scriptures there are clear exceptions regarding the right of a female to pass along the family heritage (see Numbers 27:1-7).
2 Samuel 7:12-16 speaks about the Lord's promises to King David that he would make one of his descendants as king, just as he was. The Messiah Yeshua is from the tribe of Judah (see Genesis 49:10) and descended from the line of King David (see Jeremiah 23:5-6 & 30:7-9, Isaiah 11:2-5 and Hosea 3:5). Yeshua HaMashiach is the Lion of the tribe of Judah, the Root of David (see Revelation 5:5, Genesis 49:9-10 and Isaiah 11: 1 & 10).
First, in the TaNaCH, the passage in question [Daniel 9:24-27], does NOT contain the specific Hebrew expression or term, "HaMashiach". And there is a highly significant, and distinct, difference between a person who is HaMashiach [the anointed one], vs. someone who is Messiah [anointed one].
Consequently, the burden of proof is on YOU to demonstrate - from TaNaCH - that the person labeled simply as, "anointed" - in Daniel 9:24-27 - is 'the anointed one'.
A word search of the entire Tanach reveals, that it is the WICKED who are either, (a) cut off, or (b) threatened with that action.
And since that is the case, then the obvious inference of Daniel 9:26, is that this 'anointed (one)' will be a WICKED individual who will either die, or be removed in some way.
In Israel during the 1st century C.E., there was NO shortage of wicked messiahs, i.e., anointed ones. For example, any of the Herod's, or, all of the corrupt priests (usually Sadducees).
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tngoatee=The term Messiah comes from the Hebrew word Mashiach or Moshiach which means "anointed one". The Greek equivalent is Christos (Christ), Christi in Latin.
Read Daniel 9:24-27, it speaks about the appointed time of the Messiah. He had to come, be crucified and resurrect on the third day before the destruction of the Second Temple. In 70 A.D. many years after Yeshua was crucified, resurrected and ascended, the Roman Army under General Titus smashed Jerusalem and destroyed the Second Temple in fulfillment of that prophecy. You have a choice, either Yeshua (JESUS) is the Messiah or there is none.
Attention all Messianic Jews and Gentile Christians! There are so many who are uploading videos that disproves the messiahship and divinity of Yeshua HaMashiach. Jesus was a false messiah from thorkyll and Jesus Christ is a False Messiah Part 1 and Part 2 from Sickkness. Kindly post your comments there and uphold the truth that Yeshua (JESUS) is the promised Messiah of Israel and Savior of the World. This atheists and non-believers must be disproved of what they are saying.
boyaalex=It is the videos of thorkyll and Sickkness that should be flaged, they are totaly inappropriate because they are denying Yeshua HaMashiach and they are committing blasphemy.
waddleduckie1=Messianic Jews are not Christians. Christians are Gentile followers and belivers in the Messiah Yeshua (JESUS). Messianic Judaism is not Christianity in disguise, it is a legitimate branch of Judaism.
Passover sacrifice theories about "Jesus", are antithetical to the Tanach: (a) the Passover sacrifice MUST be a 1 year old male sheep, or goat, (b) the Paschal offering MUST be slaughtered in the Temple courtyard, (c) the BLOOD of the Korban Pesach MUST be splashed on the lower parts of the altar, (d) the entire sacrifice must be ROASTED, (e) the supplicant must EAT the sacrifice, and, (f) the Passover sacrifice is NOT a sin offering, (Exodus 12, Leviticus 1:1 - 7:34).
Well, I know not what a Messianic Jew is but he is jewish very much like the others who comes through different branches of Judaism. Though there is nothing more for me to dispute this, I think the real issue should be to clarify who is jewish by origin. In very many ways, I agree with the statements posted by many of the posters in this forum. I also tend to agree that Messianic Jews may have been the first Christians.
Waddieduckie1: "Messianic Judaism" is NOT a legitimate form of Judaism. For example, if an American citizen were to visit Japan, and fall in love with the culture, food, etc., and self-proclaim herself to be Japanese, would her self-proclamation make her Japanese, and/or a legitimate [legal] citizen of Japan? No, of course not.
Similarly, just because "Messianic Judaism's" practitioners claim to be Jewish, and/or claim that their [Xtn] religion is legitimately Judaic, does NOT make it so.
waddieduckie1: If you are interested, there are some excellent scholarly works that address many of the issues that you raise, and/or statements that are made here in this thread. These books include:
1. "Constantine's Sword: The Church And The Jews", by James Carroll.
2. "Conflict of the Church and the Synagogue", by Oxford scholar, James W. Parkes.
3. "The Mythmaker: Paul and the Invention of Christianity", by Hyam Maccoby.
Re: The "New" Testament -- "The idea of a complete and clear-cut canon of the New Testament existing from the beginning, that is from Apostolic times, has no foundation in history." [newadvent (dot) org/cathen/03274a (dot) htm]
Second, the idea of a "divine" Jesus, was officially formulated, and fixed, by the Council of Nicea, in 325 C.E. That council was the beginning of the Catholic Church. [en.wikipedia (dot) org/wiki/Christology
Further reference: "Constantine's Sword", by James Carroll.
(continued) Faith in the Messiah Yeshua is originally a sect of Judaism. Christianity is a second wing in faith in the Messiah Yeshua expressed by Gentile followers of him.
tngoatee=You know what you're pathetic. You are disillusioned with Messianic Judaism and about Yeshua the Jewish Messiah. The Roman Catholic church did not made him up and they did not write the Brit Chadasha (New Testament) and the Roman Catholic church did not exist during the 1st centutry A.D., it existed between the mid-4th century A.D. and early 5th century A.D..
In the 'end of days', when non-Jews will rush to grab the fringes of a Torah Observant Jew (Zechariah 8:23), you [Xtns] will find out that you have been horribly mislead into idolatrous practices, and duped into believing in a mythological Greco-Roman [Catholic] man/god, Jesus.
"For let all the peoples walk each one in the name of its god, but we will walk in the name of HaShem our G-d for ever and ever." (Micah 4:5)
tngoatee=The Messianic Movement is not a Trojan horse of Christianity and Messianic Judaism is not Christianity in disguise. It is never created to intice Jews to follow another god and it is never created to lead you all away from HaShem's commandments. Messianic Judaism is a legitimate branch of Judaism and it's the fulfillment of Biblical Judaism and the Torah concerning the promised Messiah, they have an access to the God of Israel through his begotten Son (Pslam 2:7) Yeshua the Messiah.
From a Judaic perspective, i.e., the perspective of Torah Judaism, the "Messianic Movement", is a 'Trojan Horse' of Xnty, created to entice Jews to follow another god, and to lead us away from HaShem's Commandments. HaShem states in His Torah, that he will test us (B'nei Yisrael) in those two areas, to see if we remain faithful to Him, (Deut. 13:1-11).
To clarify, one of the long standing goals of Xtn practitioners, is to lure Jews away from our G-d, and to believe in the [Xtn] man/god, Jesus.
Oh my God, I can't believe you said that. I want you to hold fast to your God, we just say believe in his messianic promises, WHO wants to entice you to hell or destruction before the Lord. I speak to you out of LOVE, the Lord knows that this is in my heart, only this. Please read Romans 11, "I ask then: Did God reject his people? By no means! I am an Israelite myself, a descendant of Abraham, from the tribe of Benjamin."
We love Israel and the jews, even if they hate us. Don't you know friend
The New Testament (Brit Chadasha) of the Bible makes it very clear about confessing and rejecting the Messiah. Read Matthew 10:32-33 "Those who declare publicly that they belong to me, I will do the same for them before my Father in heaven. But those who reject me publicly, I will reject before my Father in heaven."
Read Romans 10:10-12 "For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation. For the Scripture saith, Whoever believeth in him shall not be ashamed. For there is no difference between Jew and Gentile; for the same Lord over all is rich unto all that call upon him."
tngoatee=One day you will see the truth that he does exist and realize that he is indeed the promised Messiah of Israel and Savior of the World and you will be sorry for rejecting him and you will regret it for the rest of your life.
tngoatee=You are the most disillusioned and you are blind because you don't realize that Yeshua (JESUS) is the real and true Jewish Messiah and Savior of the World, the begotten Son of HaShem (Psalm 2:7). He and the Son are one. Yeshua is definitely and absolutely not a Greco-Roman man/god at all and he never was a myth at all. He came 2000 years ago and he will come again according to the Hebrew Scriptures (Daniel 7:13-16 and Zechariah 12:10).
tngoatee=Deuteronomy 13:1-11 neither refers to Yeshua (JESUS) nor Christianity nor Messianic Judaism. It refers to the false prophet Mohammed and ALLAH who is not the God of Israel but a moon god, one of the 360 idols in the Kaaba in Mecca, Saudi Arabia whom Mohammed picked and the crescent moon is everywhere in Islam.
tngoatee=Yeshua(JESUS)is 100% not a myth. He does exist and he came 2000 years ago and he will come again according to teh Hebrew Scriptures (Daniel 7:13-16 and Zechariah 12:10). You know I would beat the crap out of you with a vengeance if you ever deny that he existed, and one day you will see the truth that he does exist and that he is indeed the promised Messiah of Israel and Savior of the World and you will be sorry for rejecting him and you will regret it for the rest of your life.
tngoatee=I told you before that Messianic Judaism is not Christianity in disguise, it is a legitimate branch of Judaism and it is actually 2000 years old. Messianic Judaism is the fufillment of Biblical Judaism. You maybe an Orthodox Jew but Messianic Jews are more Jewish than you and the Hasidic Jews. Messianic Jews are fulfilled and completed Jews. Yeshua is the promised Messiah of Israel and Savior of the World, the Son of God (Psalm 2:7).
- Will G-d ever renege on His promise to bless anyone who blesses the Children of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob, (Gen. 12:1-3)? Torah Jews will remain faithful to HaShem - and only HaShem. So keep your [mythological] man/god Jesus, and stop trying to convert us to Xnty, (Deuteronomy 13:1-11).
tngoatee=You maybe an Orthodox Jew but Messianic Jews are more Jewish than you and the Hasidic Jews. Messianic Jews are fulfilled and completed Jews. Yeshua is the promised Messiah of Israel and Savior of the World, the Son of God (Psalm 2:7).
Romans 10:9 That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Yeshua (JESUS), and shalt beleive in thine heart that God hath raised from the dead, thou shalt be saved.
John 11:25-26 "I am the resurrection and the life: he that believeth in me, though he were dead, yet shall he live: And whosoever liveth and believeth in me shall never die."
If anyone who has not received Yeshua (JESUS) as their Lord and Savior, they are urged to do what the prophet Isaiah says. Read Isaiah 55:6-7 Seek thy Lord while he may be found, call upon him while he is near: Let the wicked forsake his way, and the unrighteous man his thoughts: and let him return unto the Lord, and he will have upon him; and to our God, for he will abundantly pardon.
The Bible makes it very clear that Yeshua came first to the lost sheep of the house of Israel. Yeshua the Jewish Messiah says in Matthew 15:24 "I have been sent only to the lost sheep of the house of Israel."
tngoatee=Messianic Jews are Torah observant Jews. They keep the Sabbath and celebrate all the Jewish holidays and biblical feasts and above all they keep the Law of Moses. The Law of Moses is carried in the New Covenant. They know and understand their scriptures with the spirit of wisdom given to them by God who the real and true Jewish Messiah is.
tngoatee=It is realy rediculous and hypocrytical if you say that God can't do anything even though if God can do anything. Again take a deeper look, God has revealed and appeared in human form a number of times in the Tanakh (Genesis 3:8, Genesis 18:1-14, Genesis 32:24-30, Exodus 24:9-11, Joshua 5:13-15, Proverbs 30:4).
tngoatee=If you think that the Brit Chadasha (New Testament) is irrelevant to you, you are 100% wrong. HaShem made a new covenant with the house of Israel and with the house of Judah 2000 years as prophecised in Jeremiah 31:31-34 that's why he send his son (Psalm 2:7) Yeshua the Messiah. It is a very Jewish book and prophecies descrbing the Messiah were fulfilled by him, that covenant still exists today and he wants today's Jewish people to read the Brit Chadasha.
(continued)You think Jews don't need a Savior and Redeemer? You're wrong, read Isaiah 49:26, it is very clear that everyone including the Jewish people needed a Savior and Redeemer. Yeshua means "salvation", Yahweh saves, YAHWEH in the role of a Savior.
You insistence that Torah Observant Jews; and our religious beliefs (re; this "savior" topic), are in error, is not only anti-Judaic, but anti-Semitic as well.
Torah Jews have always acknowledged - for over 3,400 years - that we do NEED a SAVIOR. However, it is G-D ALONE who SAVES us; not "Jesus", because "Jesus" CANNOT be G-D, (Numbers 23:19).
Finally, your goyish [non-Jewish] Xtn opinions about our scriptures are IRRELEVANT to Torah Jews!
Read Isaiah 7:14 and Isaiah 9:6, it speaks about the birth of the Messiah. Immanuel from Isaiah 7:14 means "God with us", God came to earth from heaven and incarnated and manifested in the flesh in the person of Yeshua the Messiah. After all, he's God so he can do anything.
tngoatee=You are the real apostate. You are denying and rejecting the real and true Jewish Moshiach (Yeshua) and one day who will be judged for your apostasy and rejection of the Messiah and you will regret it for the rest of your life.
allah is the moon good, is not ELOHIM TZVAOT! Mohammed is not a prophet and he did not write the quram either...all is based on arab imperialism...it is pure balderdash! And muslims want to kill jews first and then christians as well. Beware of this moon worshippers!
How could you ever be blessed with killing and torturing the Palestinian babies every day?! God is Justice how could he bless the killers? the massacres against humanity.
How many massacre did this nation commet in what so called Israel?!
The real Jews are the one who remain in exile following the God's rule and commandment.
The problem is all these sincere Messianic Jews, (I love them as Jews) have never heard the Jewish way of explaining these verses in particular and the Tanach in general. The missionaries target the Jews who don't have a religious background and don't have the tools to take on these verses they throw at them. Its very sad. I hope that they will all get the message, that NONE of these "proofs" stand up to scrutiny and they should study Judaism with sincerity before going to other religions.
The Family of Imran 1. [3.19] Surely the (true) religion with Allah is Islam, and those to whom the Book had been given did not show opposition but after knowledge had come to them, out of envy among themselves; and whoever disbelieves in the communications of Allah then surely Allah is quick in reckoning. 2. [3.85] And whoever desires a religion other than Islam, it shall not be accepted from him, and in the hereafter he shall be one of the losers
One day, Israel will rid itself of the illness of rabbanite judaism which is not the mother faith of christianity, rather its a perverted backwards judaism which denies God and the Messiah Yeshua. 2ndly, Israel needs to rid itself of zionism - deaths of Palestinians proves my point.
Sha'alu Shalom L'yirushalayim - Pray for the peace of Jerusalem! In his love.. Bless you Lord of the universe who gave Israel and the Jewish people Yeshua - messiah of the world!
No such thing as a so called messy-anitc Jew. There are Jews and Christians and that is that.
Yonah613 1 month ago
@Yonah613 I am gentile, but I consider myself Messianic because I hold to the same core beliefs. We, christian (same term as messianic) and jew share a heritage. Many christians are returning back to their heritage and what the Bible says. We do not agree with the Catholic beliefs and see that it is in contradiction to Adonai. We see Zech. 14:16 and want to worship Him as He has prescribed. Much love my friend.
MrJgkeeling 1 month ago
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GahdeMalprigi1488x 7 months ago
WE NOT SUPPORTING CION IZRAEL WITH RACIST TALMUD
belagiorgo 9 months ago
Messianic Judaism to the world will mean Salvation for our souls and the comming the Yeshua !
MrILoveYeshua 10 months ago
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@MrILoveYeshua Messianic Judaism to the world will mean Salvation for our souls and the comming the Yeshua !"
No, it just means that that more people will be converted to fundamentalist (Baptist) Christianity - no different than the fundamentalists who AREN'T in drag.
Matthew1944 8 months ago
It is a great wrong doing in Judaism to convert anyone to another faith. Even if the people are not Jewish to start with. Also in Judaism we do not try to convert people to Judaism. A soul must come and want to change by their own personal private choice.
J4J, Mormons, Jehovahs witnesses, and many evangelical Christians (messyantics) go out and harass people to convert them, then they wonder why we get so offended.
Yonah613 10 months ago
That is not generally true, biblically we are to provide the good news. If the person rejects it, we dust off our shoes and go on. However in Judaism the culture is different which is to debate a topic. Which is what I love about jews, to get the heart of the matter. If you don't want to listen, tell them exactly that. Most should respect that.
MrJgkeeling 1 month ago
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Zionism NOT the works of God but those of the Antichrist, synagogue of satan. Nor are the "Jews" in Zionism from the seed of David or Moses or Abraham or Jesus. They are a forgery of Khazarian decent. They are a fake - an imitation chosen by Lucifer. They are NOT the descendants of the 12 tribes of Israel. Nor has the true Israel been established at the right time. Israel IS COUNTERFEIT!
"Come out of her, my people, that ye be not partakers of her sins, and that ye receive not of her plagues".
Ayelyah 11 months ago
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The faith of the Messianic Jews is the Judaism of the Bible (Biblical Judaism) and is centered on the Messiah and the salvation He brings, and they don't have to go through the Sages or the Rabbis to know God. They have access to God because of the great atoning work of Yeshua HaMashiach, Israel's Chief Rabbi, who has fulfilled them as Jewish Believers and fulfilled Judaism itself.
knightsofstjoan2004 1 year ago
Not all whom call Adonai, Adonai shall see judgement, for YAHUAH King of the Universe shall Judge with Compassion and Mercy.
Not all whom call Jesus, Jesus shall see judgement, for YAHUAH King of the Universe shall Judge with Compassion and Mercy.
Not all whom call Allah, Allah shall see judgement, for YAHUAH King of the Universe shall Judge with Compassion and Mercy.
שמור אחד שמור העולם
HallEluYah.
whereismygracejesus 1 year ago
The reason why the 'mezuzah' CAN be deceptively OK 4 a Messianic Jew; there are 3 basic tenets of misrepresentation in Xtianity. 1) According to New Testament (Romans?, but I saw the passage) it's ok to mislead, to get a person to convert to Xtianity (what J for J or Messianic Judaism really is). 2) Permissable mis- or wrong- translation of the Original Hebrew bible & scriptures to e.g. the KJV & other bible. 3) Literal interpretation of Old Testament & scriptures - totally against Judaism.
onthemoney90 1 year ago
Hatikva is a Romanian song! For over 500 years, Jewish people lived amongst Romanians and when they left took the song with them! Romanian culture have many things in common with Hebrew culture, but as they are too prideful orthodox they doesn't want to see it or accept it! I was one of them but Hashem by Hs grace saved me and gave me a new life in Yeshua, who came fist time in the character of Yeshua ben Yousef and will come back SOON in the character of Yeshua be David, the glorious King!
hoseajeremiah 1 year ago
@hoseajeremiah When I say "prideful orthodox" I am referring to the Romanian Christian orthodox!
hoseajeremiah 1 year ago
As an Orthodox Jew I can truly and Boastfully (I Only Boast in the L-RD) proclaim BARUKH HABA B'SHEM ADONAI YESHUA MELEKH HA MASHIACH! Thank you for such a Beautiful Video! Shavua Tov!
MenechemShaul 1 year ago 2
@MenechemShaul, you cannot be an orthodox Jew and a Christian! You do NOT need to circumcise your baby boys any more (e.g. read Paul's epistle to the Galatians), or follow all the Mitzvote. An orthodox Jew is an idol worshipper - he continues to worship the Torah. Do you still want to see Sabbath breakers or rebellious sons STONED to death, as the Torah permits (see Exodus 31:15; Deut. 21)?
psandbergnz 1 year ago
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You have no clue of the N.T
hannahr77 1 year ago
@hannahr77, if you want to reply to any comment I've made, fine, but try to reply with reason - or don't bother at all! As Paul's epistle says: "For we maintain that a person is justified by faith APART FROM THE WORKS OF THE LAW" (Romans 3:28). The Torah enables us to define sin, but the lives of Christians are not controlled or bound by the Law.
What counts is being "a new creation". Circumcision has no importance or value(Galatians chapter 6).
psandbergnz 1 year ago
@psandbergnz
Do you know that Paul kept the law of Moses, a new creation is within, meaning that you shouldn’t be doing the same stuff as before, should we follow the 10 commandments or not? Yes circumcision has value for Jews still. You being self righteous and judgemental, you have no right to say that the othodox Jews are idol worshipper, it's ppl like you that keep the Jews from coming to faith in YESHUA, Shabat is the only GOD given day of rest not the pagan sunday
hannahr77 1 year ago
@hannahr77 Ah-mayn! Ah-mayn! You are totally right in Yeshua!
hoseajeremiah 1 year ago
@psandbergnz
GOD has a perpetual covenant with HIS ppl the Jews isn’t that right? YESHUA came first to HIS ppl and in no way shape or form did HE tell them to do away with the law.
Romans 9
Theirs is the adoption to sonship; theirs the divine glory, the covenants, the receiving of the law, the temple worship and the promises. 5 Theirs are the patriarchs, and from them is traced the human ancestry of the Messiah, who is God over all, forever praised! Amen.
hannahr77 1 year ago
Beautiful video. I have nothing but gratitude, honour, and love for the Jewish people. I made your God my God with determination on understanding Him and seeing Him in His Son, Jesus of Nazareth. I have joy at the thought that the time of the Gentiles is about over and that we will have the honour to pass the Good News back to the Jews to see them take it over the finish line in victory. I see it's already beginning! God bless you, and us! I am so glad to be in this generation.
jroo10 1 year ago
the two lines at 32 seconds in the map....hysterical....what are they there for? lol
Temple420org 1 year ago
@Temple420org they just simply dividing North America from Latin America and Europe from Asia, no strings attached! G-d bless you!
bluegenegene 1 year ago
i can not blame u even if i want cuz is against my religion. but i can't agree with one : Jerusalem it's historical city of three religions : Islam Christianity and Judaism. It's a fact (take a look in history of Jerusalem)
barikamalika 1 year ago
and by the way it is not my law it is the law of god which yeshua perfectly kept and taught. However instead of providing proper arguments for your belief you pathetically try to persuade me using humanism which is the enemy of the Lord. Remember the amalekits. Did the almighty instruct the israelites to forgive them. God forbid.
Are you going that far to make a blasphemous statement saying that this was wrong of the Holy one who never changes ( and thus his law never changes)??
LawrenceofIsrael 1 year ago
I do not intend to be insulting but this statement is riddicolous. Not only do you offend the word of the almighty you also reject anything such as righteousness and make up your man-made doctrine and lack of concept how to handle things. The church settles matter?? Did you get that from the pope or what. righteousness means that you can do the same to me correct. Do you know what that means, I´d think a 100 times before hurting anyone. Got it?? :-) da world would be less violent then huh?
LawrenceofIsrael 1 year ago
romans 13, 7... love means fulfilling the law and nothing else. if christians were on the right track they´d follow yeshua and keep the torah as he perfectly did.
LawrenceofIsrael 1 year ago
@LawrenceofIsrael
Yes the Church need to follow the way fo YESHUA
hannahr77 1 year ago
@hannahr77 Yes, indeed!
hoseajeremiah 1 year ago
Yes indeed however the apostle Shaul says that love is what fulfills the law. That means that if you love the Almighty you´ll not worship anybody else, not profane his shabbat ... And the love for one´s enemies was already commanded in torah.
Again i say the christians have completely misunderstood the true ahavat of the scripture.
LawrenceofIsrael 1 year ago
Actually to be correct he didn´t ask them to spread love but the worship of the one true God.
Love is one important factor of this but not the love that the christians think it should be but the true ahavat of the bible.
LawrenceofIsrael 1 year ago
BSD
So much "PEACE" the "CHRISTIANS" & "MUSLIMS"
Brought to this world...
"Accidently"...Hundreds of millions Died in this process Of "PEACE".
So the promise of the "PEACEFULLNES"
You intent of Suppliying the masses with,
Is actualy subjected to the length of your sword.
And this is not how the Creator had plans for.
defiantass 2 years ago
BSD
"Messianic Jews" is a washed up name for "Christian".
Israel is land of Jews, not the "christians",
There are lots of "christians" elsewere in the world,
Go there !
defiantass 2 years ago
This is hate! Yeshua was more Jewish than you and those who practice talmudism and kabalah... Yeshua is coming back, the one that was crucified by the Romans is coming back to rule over all of this word...there is no other jew who can do this...no other! He is the Messiah of Israel for the rest of the world...if Messiah will judge your words...think again, you hate Yeshua...a Jewish Rabbi and Messiah.
rocermi61 2 years ago
love the song whats the name? Shalom :)
Mesianico91 2 years ago
NVM NVM xD *death of embarrasment*
Mesianico91 2 years ago
It is the Israeli National Anthem. In English it is called "The Hope". In Hebrew it is Hatikva.
meypole 2 years ago
Hashem will judge all. don t be sly in speech like Paul the bald headed 13th man from nowhere and given free reign in rome where only righteous where slaughtered.
the reckoning will be for the eye and the minions who embraced the corrupt power of nations. we the poor are simple and undersrtand the law just like Hashem who rebuked those sly and lazy people, "Are my Laws hard to understand or follow?"
u can taken yr grace and shaft it up in orion
sheldonyap 2 years ago
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Shalom u'vracha!(peace and blessings)
In fact Yeshu didn't fulfill any of the prophecies. Prophecies of the "messiah" are many active prophecies that require action.
Building the Temple
Bring back the exiles
Expand the knowledge of Torah to the WHOLE world
Re-establish the monarchy in Israel...
He did none of these. G-d is true and trustworthy. He delivered a perfect and whole instruction(Torah) to an entire nation to witness for credibility to all generations.
G-d bless.
TroothBeT0ld 2 years ago
Matthew 8:11-12
I say to you that many will come from the east and the west, and will take their places at the feast with Abraham, Isaac and Jacob in the kingdom of heaven. But the subjects of the kingdom will be thrown outside, into the darkness, where there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth.
BUT IS THIS THE END OF THE STORY? IS NOT GOD GOING TO SAVE ISRAEL, VINDICATION? YES HE IS!
Read the whole chapter of Romans 11:
"Did God reject his people? By no means! I am an Israelite myself!"
amlach1 2 years ago
Hi bro,
Im a former christian who now believe the laws and the one G'o'd of israel.
Jesus cannot be the messiah as he has not fulfill ALL prophecy.
Hashem made grand miracles and swore the chosen ppl to be the light.
mysterious jesus who only a handful witness is not consistent to Hashem character to change the laws. If he did he wud have to make a world wide miracle inorder to prevent misunderstanding.
Jesus didnt come back. Hashem say prophecy must all b true 2 be real.
sheldonyap 2 years ago
Daniel 9:24-26 speaks about the appointed time of the Messiah. He had to come, be crucified and rise from the dead before the destruction of the Second Temple. The crucifixion, resurrection and ascencion of Yeshua (JESUS) took place in 30 A.D. before the fall of Jerusalem and the destruction of the Second Jewish Temple in 70 A.D. You have a choice sheldonyap, either Yeshua is the Messiah or there in none.
knightsofstjoan2004 2 years ago
You are absolutely right knightsofstjoan2004, daniel proclaims clearly that the messiah must come before the destruction of the second temple!
amlach1 2 years ago
to knightsofstjoan and amlach
The prophecy in Daniel says an anointed person will be cut off, that can be any king or priest anointed according to the regulations of Torah. and the passage in daniel says nothing that if no one accepts the specific anointed person being talked about, then they will go to hell.
TroothBeT0ld 2 years ago
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Dont you think that something that carries such a heavy punishment would be more obvious in a prophecy to look out for in future generations? Don't you think that it would be a fair warning to let the people know the accept this person or die?
Yes it would be fair and obvious IF it were existent in the prophecy. but it DOESNT EXIST within the prophecy my friends...
Hashem is ONE. Torah is true.
Peace and blessings.
TroothBeT0ld 2 years ago
I think you would appreciate my videos / channel, just as I appreciate your comments. We come from similar experiences. His blessing upon you ahhi.
omedyashar 2 years ago
You have fallen from grace, poor child.
And not built your house on the rock but on the sand. Read Galatians 5:4 or the hole chapter, it's about you my son.
1 John 2:19
19They went out from us, but they did not really belong to us. For if they had belonged to us, they would have remained with us; but their going showed that none of them belonged to us.
amlach1 2 years ago
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TroothBeT0ld 2 years ago
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tngoatee 2 years ago
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Jesus Christ is King of Jews.
If Jesus is our king , we must be Jews.
Jesus destroyed the temple , and then rebuilt it in three days. He destroyed the temple , then rebuilt the faith. We are Jews to believe in Jesus Christ.
Please acknowledge this.
alexross8 2 years ago
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Attention all viewers! Watch the video clip from lovejesusplz: Jewish Rabbi confirms Jesus is the Messiah.
knightsofstjoan2004 3 years ago
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twist and turn it, meld it into a plat, squeeze the juice from it, curse and scream, anger and toil, sweat and beards, stiffnecked and self righteous, suppressed emotions, farce, and the wind floats free across the plains and rolls thru the trees caressing their leaves. the stars blink and the sun burns
peterthesongman 3 years ago
The Sh'ma is hear O Israel not listen O Israel
hebrewhammershabbat 3 years ago
cant understand it but sounds like a great song
YuRiy1111 3 years ago
Awesome video!!! Yeshua bless you all the days of your life!!
J3SUSfreek 3 years ago
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There was no such thing as Oral law. The concept of Oral Law is a monumental scam.
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ElizabethDilling 3 years ago
SHALOM! Did you know that Yeshua (JESUS) the Messiah suffered and died for the atonement of sins and resurrected on the third day. He was pierced for our transgressions and crushed for our iniquities, therefore he was sacrificed as the Lamb of God who takes away the sins of the world by the sheding of his precious holy blood (see Isaiah 53:5-7, John 1:29, Hebrews 9 & 13:11-12 and Revelation 1:5). Yeshua HaMashiach is the atonement on Yom Kippur, AMEN.
knightsofstjoan2004 3 years ago 2
Amen!!
meypole 3 years ago
Also see Isaiah 53:10.
knightsofstjoan2004 3 years ago
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SHALOM! Yeshua (JESUS) was crucified and died physically on the Passover and He became not only the sacrificial lamb given for the sins of many but also His blood covers everyone's beings ("Doorposts" = Hearts and Souls) as a sign so that the great judgement (angel of death) will "Pass-over" us in these end-times! When everyone's former selves die in Him, their new everlasting beings live with him as He, YESHUA IS LIFE itself. Yeshua HaMashiach is the Passover Lamb (1 Corinthians 5:7), AMEN.
knightsofstjoan2004 3 years ago
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SHALOM! Did you know that Yeshua (JESUS) the Messiah resurrected on the Feast of the First Fruits (see 1 Corinthians 15:20). He is the firstfruits of the resurrection and through him we shall all be alive. Yeshua HaMashiach is the resurrection and the life on Yom HaBikkurim, AMEN.
knightsofstjoan2004 3 years ago
My fellow Jews - reject the false Messiah and return to your true faith!
G-d spoke to us at Sinai and gave us the Torah. We don't need anything else!
If you wish to discuss authentic Torah Judaism with an observant Jew, feel free to get in touch via yahoo: stuartsigman.
Sh'ma Yisrael!!!
ssigman 3 years ago
There is only one Messiah. Yeshua is the Jewish Messiah, the begotten Son of HaShem. You want proof? See Pslam 2:7, Proverbs 30:4, Isaiah 7:14 and Isaiah 9:6. HaMoshiach ze echad, Yeshua ze HaMashiach Yehudi, Bar HaElohim.
knightsofstjoan2004 3 years ago
Wrong on every one!
PSALM (learn to spell!) 2:7 speaks of David and Proverbs 30:4 of Moses. If you knew Hebrew, you'd know that the word 'Alma' in Isaiah 7:14 means 'maiden,' not 'virgin.' Isaiah 9:6 is about Moshiach, who has not yet come. You think Jesus brought 'boundless peace'?!?!
Also, a clarification: Messiah comes from Moshiach, 'The Annointed One.' NOWHERE in Torah is there any nonsense about the Messiah being G-d, son of G-d, whatever. That is taken directly from Roman paganism.
ssigman 3 years ago
How dare you say what God cannot do. What makes you think you can do anything that God can't do? It's hypocritical, rediculous and insane. God can do anything according to his will, he can interact with his creation. Take a deeper look, God has revealed and appeared in human form a number of times in the Tanakh (Genesis 3:8, Genesis 18:1-14, Genesis 32:24-30, Exodus 24:9-11, Joshua 5:13-15, Judges 13:22, Proverbs 30:4).
knightsofstjoan2004 3 years ago
(continued)Isaiah 7:14 and Isaiah 9:6 speaks about the birth of the Messiah, Immanuel from Isaiah 7:14 means "God with us", God came to earth from heaven and manifested and incarnated in the flesh in the person of Yeshua the Messiah. After all, he's God so he can do anything.
knightsofstjoan2004 3 years ago
Before there can be peace in the world, all people must recognize their sinful condition and repent (see Jeremiah 3:13-18). The Messiah Yeshua will not force peace upon the world, regardless of its spiritual condition. Yeshua came in a humble fashion (see Zechariah 9:9)to die as an atonement for sins (see Isaiah 53).
knightsofstjoan2004 3 years ago
continued)He will return to rule, at which time we will recognize him as the one who was pierced, the one who died as an atonement for sin (see Zechariah 12:10). At his return, he will usher in the Messianic Age-a time that everyone has been waiting for; a time of true peace in the world (see Isaiah 11).
knightsofstjoan2004 3 years ago
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Some people are so clever it frightens me! If they were all 'Fiery-hot like you, the world would be great! The problem is that they are 'luke-warm' and shall be spewed from His mouth at the Great white Throne Judgement. Narrow is the gate that lead to evrlasting life. Love you Brother. Aaron
aaronkraicshtein 3 years ago
ssigman=You are mistaken. Pslam 2:7 does not speak of David, it speaks of the Messiah being the Son of God and Proverbs 30:4 does not speak about Moses, it speaks about God sending his son Yeshua the Messiah. King David was not just the King of Israel, he was also a prophet.
knightsofstjoan2004 3 years ago
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Yes it asks who has desended and assended, do you know His name? Well? Do you know His Son's name? Yehashua haMessiach! His name? Yod Hey Vaw Hey
aaronkraicshtein 3 years ago
kofstjoan2004: Are you sure you want to stick with your statement that "there is only one Messiah"? Do you even know the definition of the term?
FYI, "messiah" is the English derivative of the Hebrew word, Mashiach. And mashiach simply means, anointed, and/or anointed one. Furthermore, there have been hundreds of 'anointed ones' [messiahs] throughout Israel's history, e.g., Aaron the high priest, and all of the kings of Israel - Saul being the first (1 Samuel 10:1).
tngoatee 3 years ago
Notice in Isaiah 45:1, the Persian King, Cyrus the Great, is described by HaShem as being, His anointed.
In Daniel 9:24-27, three messiahs are mentioned, and from Jewish history we know who they are. Cyrus the Great, King Agrippa, & the Roman Titus who destroyed Jerusalem. And no knowledgeable Torah Jew associates them with the long awaited messiah, who will be present during an era of worldwide peace, and total knowledge of G-d, (Isa. 2:1-4, Jer. 31:31-40, Micah 4:1-3, Zech 8:23, 9:9-17).
tngoatee 3 years ago
tngoatee=It says in Daniel 9:24-26 that the Messiah shall be cut off but not for himself and the people of the prince that shall come shall destroy the city and the sanctuary. The prophet Daniel is very clear in what he is saying that the Messiah will come and die before the fall of Jerusalem and the destruction of the Second Jewish Temple.
knightsofstjoan2004 3 years ago
Knowledgeable Torah Jews know that your Xtian interpretations of this passage are incorrect. Why? In the messianic age, there will be worldwide peace, the Temple will be rebuilt, and this 'anointed one' will sit on the throne of his father David. In order for your Xtian theory to work, you [Xtians] have to ignore all biblical statements to that effect.
Believe what you want to, but your notions about our future Davidic King [The Messiah] are completely irrelevant to us.
tngoatee 3 years ago
That is where you are wrong tngoatee. I've learned about the Messianic timetable according to Daniel the prophet at Yahoo, the prophet Daniel is correct and accurate that the Messiah have to come by the 1st century A.D. and that he will be crucified and later resurrect in 30 A.D. before Jerusalem will fall and the Second Jewish Temple is destroyed in 70 A.D.
knightsofstjoan2004 3 years ago
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Peace is something that can't be bought, peace begins in the heart. The Messiah Yeshua in his first coming came to make peace in the hearts of humanity and to make peace between mankind and God. He will bring peace on earth when he returns.
knightsofstjoan2004 3 years ago
Matthew 1:1-17 speaks about the genealogy of Yeshua HaMashiach. There were fourteen generations from Abraham to King David, fourteen generations from King David to the exile in Babylon, and fourteen generations from then to the birth of the Messiah. You can also refer to 2 Kings 24:14-15, 2 Chronicles 36:10, and Jeremiah 27:20.
knightsofstjoan2004 3 years ago
Regarding the alleged New Testament (NT) proofs that "Jesus" is a direct descendent of King David...
Please explain the following discrepancies:
1) In Matthew 1:16 Jacob is the paternal grandfather. In Luke 3:23 it is Heli.
2) Matt. 1:17, cites 28 generations between David & Jesus, Luke 3:23-31 cites 42 generations between David & Jesus.
3) According to the NT, "Jesus" was a product of a virgin conception. If true, then how is "Jesus" a patrilineal descendent of King David?
tngoatee 3 years ago
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Read Luke 1:26-38, there you will find the answers to your question how Yeshua is a patrilineal descendant of King David even if he was a product of a virgin conception.
knightsofstjoan2004 3 years ago
Your miraculous birth theory [Luke 1:26-38] about Jesus invalidates him as a inheritor of the throne of David, according to Torah and Jewish law.
tngoatee 3 years ago
Isaiah 7:14 and Isaiah 9:6 speaks about the birth of the Messiah. Isaiah 9:7 speaks about the Messiah as a rightful heir to the throne of David.
knightsofstjoan2004 3 years ago
Regarding Isaiah 7:14, and 9:6. In the Tanach, the Hebrew word "messiah" is NOT found in any of those two passages. Needless to say, there is NO mention of "the messiah" either.
tngoatee 3 years ago
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Yeshua HaMashiach is known as Messiah Ben David, Messiah Ben Joseph and Messiah Ben Yahweh. Therefore He will be king (see 2 Samuel 7:12-16) and He is an heir to the throne of David (see Isaiah 9:7 and Luke 1:26-38).
knightsofstjoan2004 3 years ago
knight...2004:
We have gone over this numerous times, and your claims only appear credible to those who:
1) Refuse to engage in intellectually honest discourse.
2) Do not understand the Burden of proof - the fallacy and legal term.
3) Benefit of assumption.
4) Rules of evidence.
* Please find an excellent English dictionary to look up these terms. Really knight...2004, you truly DO NOT know what you are talking about. Only miso-Judaic, and/or IGNORANT Xtn audiences appreciate your stuff.
tngoatee 3 years ago
And by the way tngoatee don't say that Isaiah 53 is about the nation of Israel because that is cleary not about the nation of Israel at all, it is about the Suffering Servant Messiah. The rabbis long before Rashi knew that Isaiah 53 was about the Messiah. How can Israel die for the sins of Israel? Isaiah 52:13-15 is also about the Messiah.
knightsofstjoan2004 2 years ago
They can't man, but of course Israel wont accept that. They will continue to argue that Israel died for Israel or for the world. But if Israel was and is that pure then why did God almost eradicate them in the desert - to replace them with a people from Moses seed? Of course this they always forget, or how Daniel or Ezikiel wept and confessed the sins of Israel. No, Israel is pure and a savior of mankind (NOT!). Sure they will be vindicated one day but they can't surely take the place of Jesus!
amlach1 2 years ago
amlach1=Rabbi Alshech in 1550 and Rabbi Eliyyah de Vidas in 1575 knew too that Isaiah 53 is about the Messiah.
knightsofstjoan2004 2 years ago
Oh thanks for the info, didn't know that. Where can I look that up, is there a book?
(talmud or something)
amlach1 2 years ago
amlach1= Log on to google and search for Light For Last Days and log on to that website. Also go to carrieanne55's channel and watch her videos.
knightsofstjoan2004 2 years ago
Okay,Keyword, SERVANT. Isa 41:8, 42:19, 43:10 (my witnessES are you MY SERVANT(plural, i.e. Israel), 44:1, 45:4, 49:3, 52:13, 53:11... All the way from chapter 41 to 49, it is irrefutable that the servant explained here is Israel. IT SAY IT WITHIN THE TEXT W/O QUESTION. In 42:19, it even says the servant was blind and deaf (in other words acting foolishly). Then in 43:10, the servant is actually PLURAL WITNESSES! Ch 44,ISRAEL IS THE SERVANT, 45, AGAIN. ALL THE WAY TO 49 ISRAEL IS THE SERVANT,
TroothBeT0ld 2 years ago
Why then suddenly is the servant in Isaiah a different character? This makes absolutely no sense. The SERVANT IS ISRAEL! 53 represents only the righteous of Israel. israel will bring a message to the entire world after their suffering, the rest of Isaiah testifies to this.
TroothBeT0ld 2 years ago
All right let the Truth - be - told. Your thinking raises some questions about chapter 53, please teach me:
*Why is the prophet Isaiah identifying himself with the gentiles when saying [the servant] "took up our infirmities and carried our sorrows" in vers 4. Why doesnt he say: we took up their sorrows and carried their infirmities, yet they considered us smitten by God? Seem like a valid question, are some rabbi teachers right when they say that this role of Israel as savior is farstretched?
amlach1 2 years ago
1st ?: Isaiah is speaking in the perspective of the nations about the servant. who is the servant? (Isa 44:21). it says "he was wounded because of our[the nations] sins, crushed because of our[the nations] iniquities.". From what i can see, it says that he made intercession, or in other words took the beatings because of the evil of the nations (v12). Israel isn't savior, Israel is there so that "through him(the servant) The L-rds purpose might prosper.
TroothBeT0ld 2 years ago
continuation:
*How can Israel justify the gentiles when the prophet himself states in Isaiah 1, that Israel is unrighteous [corrupt, evil and have forsaken the Lord etc.] Can a sinner justify another sinner?
*The crimes against the jews brings judgement on their enemies, not slavation for the gentiles.
*The servant suffers willingly, Israel has never suffered willingly under the gentiles.
*Verses 8, 9 &12 states clearly that he dies, Israel has never and can't ever die (Jeremia 31:35-36)
amlach1 2 years ago
(2) Israel is not eternally wicked that's taking things out of context(44:22). Isa 66:20, The nations bring Israel back to their land as an OFFERING! TO BRING ATONEMENT BY FOLLOWING G-D'S PURPOSE.(3)The crimes against Israel will be used by G-d in the future to prove to the nations what power G-d has. The servant suffers willingly? this is nowhere in 53 from what i understand.(this is a shortened version i'll make an entire blog about this and you can read it later)
TroothBeT0ld 2 years ago
(4)Verses 8, 9. and 12 states the servant dies. yet v10 says he shall see his seed(descendants). let's see which makes more sense, can this be Yeshu? 1. he died. 2. he had no seed. so NOPE! How about Israel 1. MANY PEOPLE OF ISRAEL HAVE BEEN KILLED BY THE NATIONS 2. Yet, REGARDLESS, Israel's seed prolongs!!! I will make blog and cross reference the verses in 53 with as many other verse that show it is talking about Israel (G-d willing)
TroothBeT0ld 2 years ago
Jeremia says clearly that Israel can not die!! No matter if she is taken to Assyria, Babylon or killed by the evil Hitler. God won't let his firstborn son die, it would make him unto a lier even if he would to return Israel back again to the land. Read Jeremiah 31:35-36 again. For Israel to be considered dead, the wolrd would end. Even if it was to be just for a moment, God won't even reflect on that point. He loves indeed.
amlach1 2 years ago
Jeremiah clearly states that Israel will REMAIN A NATION! this doesn't mean that MANY MANY OF ISRAEL won't DIE at the hands of the wicked nations. ISA 53 testifies to this. The servant (Israel) will be killed (not the nation as a whole, but many of the people) but will see it's SEED(offspring) and prolong days. the Hebrew word zera3(seed) is always a word referring to physical descendants. THIS CAN'T BE YESHU. this can ONLY apply to Israel. Yeshu never had children.
TroothBeT0ld 2 years ago
(continued). I challenge you with a question. How in any way can Isaiah 53 be referring to Yeshu when in v10 it says he was crushed by disease and also has children? Yeshu wasn't killed by disease nor was he ever diseased in his life (according to the n.t.). How can it be referring to him if it says he has offspring? This can only be referring to Israel since Israel both suffered death (many of the people of Israel died) and has descendants (so therefore not a FULL death).
TroothBeT0ld 2 years ago
Read again, or better, give me your email address and I will send you an Ebook explaning to you that Yeshua, not "yeshu" healed the nations of the world because He was the Kurban who died for your sins. He was killed and then the Beit Mikdash was destroyed, that is why no more sacrifices YHWH Adonay wanted to accept from anyone. Daniel 9:26! Where will you spend your eternity?
rocermi61 2 years ago
@rocermi61 no thanks. I've read it. Just because i don't fall for false xtian interpretations doesn't mean i haven't read enough. i spent a year reading that book trying to figure it out. and it's always the same bogus arguments. thanks but no thanks.
Where i spend eternity depends on my repentance and observance of the Holy and perfect Torah.
Shalom.
TroothBeT0ld 2 years ago
And the last question I have about the suffering servant of Isaiah 53 is this:
* The prophets states that the servant dies for his own people, in verse 8:
"for the transgression of my people he was stricken". How can Israel then die or suffer for the gentiles? We are not the seed of Abraham, we are not considered to be the same people as Israel. How can you than suffer for us?
amlach1 2 years ago
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TroothBeT0ld 2 years ago
53 is in the perspective of the nations. Israel suffers for the nations... Anyway, we can see from the plain meaning that almost the whole book of Isaiah is referring to the suffering of Israel in the "end times". There is proof of this in the text. The best you have is speculation. p.s. isa 53:10 is parallel to Ezek 36:23. Through him the servanat (Israel) G-d purpose and holiness will be manifested. Peace. Enough of my rambling.
TroothBeT0ld 2 years ago
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Although Joseph is not Yeshua's biological father, as his stepfather he was His legal guardian. Thus Joseph provides a patrilineal (fathers side) tie to the line of David for Yeshua. This is why Joseph's genealogy is included in the New Covenant record. Since there was no earthly, biological father outside of the Davidic line, Yeshua had no non-Davidic father that would give Him a lineage other than that of King David.
knightsofstjoan2004 3 years ago
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(continued) On the other hand, even if only His mother was in the line of David, it would still be sufficient for Yeshua to be of Davidic lineage. Some traditional rabbis might protest that the mothers side cannot give genealogical credentials, and it is true that the biblical records are patrilineal. However, in the Scriptures there are clear exceptions regarding the right of a female to pass along the family heritage (see Numbers 27:1-7).
knightsofstjoan2004 3 years ago
2 Samuel 7:12-16 speaks about the Lord's promises to King David that he would make one of his descendants as king, just as he was. The Messiah Yeshua is from the tribe of Judah (see Genesis 49:10) and descended from the line of King David (see Jeremiah 23:5-6 & 30:7-9, Isaiah 11:2-5 and Hosea 3:5). Yeshua HaMashiach is the Lion of the tribe of Judah, the Root of David (see Revelation 5:5, Genesis 49:9-10 and Isaiah 11: 1 & 10).
knightsofstjoan2004 3 years ago
kofstjoan2004:
First, in the TaNaCH, the passage in question [Daniel 9:24-27], does NOT contain the specific Hebrew expression or term, "HaMashiach". And there is a highly significant, and distinct, difference between a person who is HaMashiach [the anointed one], vs. someone who is Messiah [anointed one].
Consequently, the burden of proof is on YOU to demonstrate - from TaNaCH - that the person labeled simply as, "anointed" - in Daniel 9:24-27 - is 'the anointed one'.
tngoatee 3 years ago
A word search of the entire Tanach reveals, that it is the WICKED who are either, (a) cut off, or (b) threatened with that action.
And since that is the case, then the obvious inference of Daniel 9:26, is that this 'anointed (one)' will be a WICKED individual who will either die, or be removed in some way.
In Israel during the 1st century C.E., there was NO shortage of wicked messiahs, i.e., anointed ones. For example, any of the Herod's, or, all of the corrupt priests (usually Sadducees).
tngoatee 3 years ago
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tngoatee=The term Messiah comes from the Hebrew word Mashiach or Moshiach which means "anointed one". The Greek equivalent is Christos (Christ), Christi in Latin.
knightsofstjoan2004 3 years ago
Read Daniel 9:24-27, it speaks about the appointed time of the Messiah. He had to come, be crucified and resurrect on the third day before the destruction of the Second Temple. In 70 A.D. many years after Yeshua was crucified, resurrected and ascended, the Roman Army under General Titus smashed Jerusalem and destroyed the Second Temple in fulfillment of that prophecy. You have a choice, either Yeshua (JESUS) is the Messiah or there is none.
knightsofstjoan2004 3 years ago
(continued)Their videos must be flaged.
knightsofstjoan2004 3 years ago
Attention all Messianic Jews and Gentile Christians! There are so many who are uploading videos that disproves the messiahship and divinity of Yeshua HaMashiach. Jesus was a false messiah from thorkyll and Jesus Christ is a False Messiah Part 1 and Part 2 from Sickkness. Kindly post your comments there and uphold the truth that Yeshua (JESUS) is the promised Messiah of Israel and Savior of the World. This atheists and non-believers must be disproved of what they are saying.
knightsofstjoan2004 3 years ago
bye you loser!
Just keep on rejecting him
boyaalex 3 years ago
boyaalex=It is the videos of thorkyll and Sickkness that should be flaged, they are totaly inappropriate because they are denying Yeshua HaMashiach and they are committing blasphemy.
knightsofstjoan2004 3 years ago
waddleduckie1=Messianic Jews are not Christians. Christians are Gentile followers and belivers in the Messiah Yeshua (JESUS). Messianic Judaism is not Christianity in disguise, it is a legitimate branch of Judaism.
knightsofstjoan2004 3 years ago
Passover lesson for Xtns:
Passover sacrifice theories about "Jesus", are antithetical to the Tanach: (a) the Passover sacrifice MUST be a 1 year old male sheep, or goat, (b) the Paschal offering MUST be slaughtered in the Temple courtyard, (c) the BLOOD of the Korban Pesach MUST be splashed on the lower parts of the altar, (d) the entire sacrifice must be ROASTED, (e) the supplicant must EAT the sacrifice, and, (f) the Passover sacrifice is NOT a sin offering, (Exodus 12, Leviticus 1:1 - 7:34).
tngoatee 3 years ago
Well, I know not what a Messianic Jew is but he is jewish very much like the others who comes through different branches of Judaism. Though there is nothing more for me to dispute this, I think the real issue should be to clarify who is jewish by origin. In very many ways, I agree with the statements posted by many of the posters in this forum. I also tend to agree that Messianic Jews may have been the first Christians.
waddleduckie1 3 years ago
Waddieduckie1: "Messianic Judaism" is NOT a legitimate form of Judaism. For example, if an American citizen were to visit Japan, and fall in love with the culture, food, etc., and self-proclaim herself to be Japanese, would her self-proclamation make her Japanese, and/or a legitimate [legal] citizen of Japan? No, of course not.
Similarly, just because "Messianic Judaism's" practitioners claim to be Jewish, and/or claim that their [Xtn] religion is legitimately Judaic, does NOT make it so.
tngoatee 3 years ago
waddieduckie1: If you are interested, there are some excellent scholarly works that address many of the issues that you raise, and/or statements that are made here in this thread. These books include:
1. "Constantine's Sword: The Church And The Jews", by James Carroll.
2. "Conflict of the Church and the Synagogue", by Oxford scholar, James W. Parkes.
3. "The Mythmaker: Paul and the Invention of Christianity", by Hyam Maccoby.
tngoatee 3 years ago
Re: The "New" Testament -- "The idea of a complete and clear-cut canon of the New Testament existing from the beginning, that is from Apostolic times, has no foundation in history." [newadvent (dot) org/cathen/03274a (dot) htm]
Second, the idea of a "divine" Jesus, was officially formulated, and fixed, by the Council of Nicea, in 325 C.E. That council was the beginning of the Catholic Church. [en.wikipedia (dot) org/wiki/Christology
Further reference: "Constantine's Sword", by James Carroll.
tngoatee 3 years ago
(continued) Faith in the Messiah Yeshua is originally a sect of Judaism. Christianity is a second wing in faith in the Messiah Yeshua expressed by Gentile followers of him.
knightsofstjoan2004 3 years ago 2
tngoatee=You know what you're pathetic. You are disillusioned with Messianic Judaism and about Yeshua the Jewish Messiah. The Roman Catholic church did not made him up and they did not write the Brit Chadasha (New Testament) and the Roman Catholic church did not exist during the 1st centutry A.D., it existed between the mid-4th century A.D. and early 5th century A.D..
knightsofstjoan2004 3 years ago 2
In the 'end of days', when non-Jews will rush to grab the fringes of a Torah Observant Jew (Zechariah 8:23), you [Xtns] will find out that you have been horribly mislead into idolatrous practices, and duped into believing in a mythological Greco-Roman [Catholic] man/god, Jesus.
"For let all the peoples walk each one in the name of its god, but we will walk in the name of HaShem our G-d for ever and ever." (Micah 4:5)
tngoatee 3 years ago
tngoatee=The Messianic Movement is not a Trojan horse of Christianity and Messianic Judaism is not Christianity in disguise. It is never created to intice Jews to follow another god and it is never created to lead you all away from HaShem's commandments. Messianic Judaism is a legitimate branch of Judaism and it's the fulfillment of Biblical Judaism and the Torah concerning the promised Messiah, they have an access to the God of Israel through his begotten Son (Pslam 2:7) Yeshua the Messiah.
knightsofstjoan2004 3 years ago
From a Judaic perspective, i.e., the perspective of Torah Judaism, the "Messianic Movement", is a 'Trojan Horse' of Xnty, created to entice Jews to follow another god, and to lead us away from HaShem's Commandments. HaShem states in His Torah, that he will test us (B'nei Yisrael) in those two areas, to see if we remain faithful to Him, (Deut. 13:1-11).
To clarify, one of the long standing goals of Xtn practitioners, is to lure Jews away from our G-d, and to believe in the [Xtn] man/god, Jesus.
tngoatee 3 years ago
Oh my God, I can't believe you said that. I want you to hold fast to your God, we just say believe in his messianic promises, WHO wants to entice you to hell or destruction before the Lord. I speak to you out of LOVE, the Lord knows that this is in my heart, only this. Please read Romans 11, "I ask then: Did God reject his people? By no means! I am an Israelite myself, a descendant of Abraham, from the tribe of Benjamin."
We love Israel and the jews, even if they hate us. Don't you know friend
amlach1 2 years ago
The New Testament (Brit Chadasha) of the Bible makes it very clear about confessing and rejecting the Messiah. Read Matthew 10:32-33 "Those who declare publicly that they belong to me, I will do the same for them before my Father in heaven. But those who reject me publicly, I will reject before my Father in heaven."
knightsofstjoan2004 3 years ago
Read Romans 10:10-12 "For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation. For the Scripture saith, Whoever believeth in him shall not be ashamed. For there is no difference between Jew and Gentile; for the same Lord over all is rich unto all that call upon him."
knightsofstjoan2004 3 years ago
tngoatee=One day you will see the truth that he does exist and realize that he is indeed the promised Messiah of Israel and Savior of the World and you will be sorry for rejecting him and you will regret it for the rest of your life.
knightsofstjoan2004 3 years ago
tngoatee=You are the most disillusioned and you are blind because you don't realize that Yeshua (JESUS) is the real and true Jewish Messiah and Savior of the World, the begotten Son of HaShem (Psalm 2:7). He and the Son are one. Yeshua is definitely and absolutely not a Greco-Roman man/god at all and he never was a myth at all. He came 2000 years ago and he will come again according to the Hebrew Scriptures (Daniel 7:13-16 and Zechariah 12:10).
knightsofstjoan2004 3 years ago
tngoatee=Deuteronomy 13:1-11 neither refers to Yeshua (JESUS) nor Christianity nor Messianic Judaism. It refers to the false prophet Mohammed and ALLAH who is not the God of Israel but a moon god, one of the 360 idols in the Kaaba in Mecca, Saudi Arabia whom Mohammed picked and the crescent moon is everywhere in Islam.
knightsofstjoan2004 3 years ago
tngoatee=Yeshua(JESUS)is 100% not a myth. He does exist and he came 2000 years ago and he will come again according to teh Hebrew Scriptures (Daniel 7:13-16 and Zechariah 12:10). You know I would beat the crap out of you with a vengeance if you ever deny that he existed, and one day you will see the truth that he does exist and that he is indeed the promised Messiah of Israel and Savior of the World and you will be sorry for rejecting him and you will regret it for the rest of your life.
knightsofstjoan2004 3 years ago
tngoatee=I told you before that Messianic Judaism is not Christianity in disguise, it is a legitimate branch of Judaism and it is actually 2000 years old. Messianic Judaism is the fufillment of Biblical Judaism. You maybe an Orthodox Jew but Messianic Jews are more Jewish than you and the Hasidic Jews. Messianic Jews are fulfilled and completed Jews. Yeshua is the promised Messiah of Israel and Savior of the World, the Son of God (Psalm 2:7).
knightsofstjoan2004 3 years ago
knightsofstjoan2004:
You claim that G-d can do anything [Sic].
- Can G-d lie? [see Numbers 23:19]
- Can G-d defy His own Commandments?
- Will G-d ever renege on His promise to bless anyone who blesses the Children of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob, (Gen. 12:1-3)? Torah Jews will remain faithful to HaShem - and only HaShem. So keep your [mythological] man/god Jesus, and stop trying to convert us to Xnty, (Deuteronomy 13:1-11).
tngoatee 3 years ago
He can do everything man, but he choses not to becuase he is HOLY! But God is not weak as you seem to think. Have faith !!
"Tear your heart, and not your garments" - Joel 2:13.
I trust him, will you? If so then get yourself together brother!
amlach1 2 years ago
tngoatee=You maybe an Orthodox Jew but Messianic Jews are more Jewish than you and the Hasidic Jews. Messianic Jews are fulfilled and completed Jews. Yeshua is the promised Messiah of Israel and Savior of the World, the Son of God (Psalm 2:7).
knightsofstjoan2004 3 years ago
Clear proofs from the New Testament of the Bible:
1. Romans 10:13 "For whoever shall call upon the name of the Lord (Jesus) shall be saved."
2. Acts 4:12 "Neither is there salvation in any other: for there is none other name under heaven given among men, whereby we must be saved.
3. John 14:6 "I am the truth, the way, and the life: no one comes to the Father, but by me."
knightsofstjoan2004 3 years ago
Romans 10:9 That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Yeshua (JESUS), and shalt beleive in thine heart that God hath raised from the dead, thou shalt be saved.
John 11:25-26 "I am the resurrection and the life: he that believeth in me, though he were dead, yet shall he live: And whosoever liveth and believeth in me shall never die."
knightsofstjoan2004 3 years ago
If anyone who has not received Yeshua (JESUS) as their Lord and Savior, they are urged to do what the prophet Isaiah says. Read Isaiah 55:6-7 Seek thy Lord while he may be found, call upon him while he is near: Let the wicked forsake his way, and the unrighteous man his thoughts: and let him return unto the Lord, and he will have upon him; and to our God, for he will abundantly pardon.
knightsofstjoan2004 3 years ago
The Bible makes it very clear that Yeshua came first to the lost sheep of the house of Israel. Yeshua the Jewish Messiah says in Matthew 15:24 "I have been sent only to the lost sheep of the house of Israel."
knightsofstjoan2004 3 years ago
Messianic Judaism is the fulfillment of Biblical Judaism.
knightsofstjoan2004 3 years ago
tngoatee=Messianic Jews are Torah observant Jews. They keep the Sabbath and celebrate all the Jewish holidays and biblical feasts and above all they keep the Law of Moses. The Law of Moses is carried in the New Covenant. They know and understand their scriptures with the spirit of wisdom given to them by God who the real and true Jewish Messiah is.
knightsofstjoan2004 3 years ago
tngoatee=It is realy rediculous and hypocrytical if you say that God can't do anything even though if God can do anything. Again take a deeper look, God has revealed and appeared in human form a number of times in the Tanakh (Genesis 3:8, Genesis 18:1-14, Genesis 32:24-30, Exodus 24:9-11, Joshua 5:13-15, Proverbs 30:4).
knightsofstjoan2004 3 years ago
tngoatee=If you think that the Brit Chadasha (New Testament) is irrelevant to you, you are 100% wrong. HaShem made a new covenant with the house of Israel and with the house of Judah 2000 years as prophecised in Jeremiah 31:31-34 that's why he send his son (Psalm 2:7) Yeshua the Messiah. It is a very Jewish book and prophecies descrbing the Messiah were fulfilled by him, that covenant still exists today and he wants today's Jewish people to read the Brit Chadasha.
knightsofstjoan2004 3 years ago
(continued)You think Jews don't need a Savior and Redeemer? You're wrong, read Isaiah 49:26, it is very clear that everyone including the Jewish people needed a Savior and Redeemer. Yeshua means "salvation", Yahweh saves, YAHWEH in the role of a Savior.
knightsofstjoan2004 3 years ago
knightsofstjoan2004:
You insistence that Torah Observant Jews; and our religious beliefs (re; this "savior" topic), are in error, is not only anti-Judaic, but anti-Semitic as well.
Torah Jews have always acknowledged - for over 3,400 years - that we do NEED a SAVIOR. However, it is G-D ALONE who SAVES us; not "Jesus", because "Jesus" CANNOT be G-D, (Numbers 23:19).
Finally, your goyish [non-Jewish] Xtn opinions about our scriptures are IRRELEVANT to Torah Jews!
tngoatee 3 years ago
Read Isaiah 7:14 and Isaiah 9:6, it speaks about the birth of the Messiah. Immanuel from Isaiah 7:14 means "God with us", God came to earth from heaven and incarnated and manifested in the flesh in the person of Yeshua the Messiah. After all, he's God so he can do anything.
knightsofstjoan2004 3 years ago
knightsofstjoan2004:
You claim that G-d can do anything [Sic].
- Can G-d lie? [see Numbers 23:19]
- Will G-d ever refuse to honor His promises to bless anyone who blesses the Children of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob, (Gen. 12:1-3)?
- Can G-d "sin"?
- Can G-d defy His own Commandments?
tngoatee 3 years ago
tngoatee=You are the real apostate. You are denying and rejecting the real and true Jewish Moshiach (Yeshua) and one day who will be judged for your apostasy and rejection of the Messiah and you will regret it for the rest of your life.
knightsofstjoan2004 3 years ago
You call your religion "religion of love"?
All you do is curse out and condemn to hell all other worshipers of G-d.
You believe your god of "love" puts 5,000,000,000 people in hell just b/c they were born. LOL.
shnaz65 3 years ago
allah is the moon good, is not ELOHIM TZVAOT! Mohammed is not a prophet and he did not write the quram either...all is based on arab imperialism...it is pure balderdash! And muslims want to kill jews first and then christians as well. Beware of this moon worshippers!
rogercerd61 3 years ago
i dont want to be circumziced im good how i was born.
buddhaluvaz 3 years ago
Dearest buddhaluvaz,
Speaking on behalf of myself, and many of my fellow Jews, we profusely thank you for your decision (to remain a goy).
tngoatee 3 years ago
arrogant jew. i see your ugly face smirking. cripple kid.
buddhaluvaz 3 years ago
i dont want to be circumziced. im good how i was born...
buddhaluvaz 3 years ago
How could you ever be blessed with killing and torturing the Palestinian babies every day?! God is Justice how could he bless the killers? the massacres against humanity.
How many massacre did this nation commet in what so called Israel?!
The real Jews are the one who remain in exile following the God's rule and commandment.
abushtayyah 3 years ago
The problem is all these sincere Messianic Jews, (I love them as Jews) have never heard the Jewish way of explaining these verses in particular and the Tanach in general. The missionaries target the Jews who don't have a religious background and don't have the tools to take on these verses they throw at them. Its very sad. I hope that they will all get the message, that NONE of these "proofs" stand up to scrutiny and they should study Judaism with sincerity before going to other religions.
shnaz65 3 years ago
Beautiful video! beautiful muzik! beautiful song! praise YHWH! praise Yahshua! YHWH bless jou!
helabar 4 years ago
The Family of Imran 1. [3.19] Surely the (true) religion with Allah is Islam, and those to whom the Book had been given did not show opposition but after knowledge had come to them, out of envy among themselves; and whoever disbelieves in the communications of Allah then surely Allah is quick in reckoning. 2. [3.85] And whoever desires a religion other than Islam, it shall not be accepted from him, and in the hereafter he shall be one of the losers
salimnina 4 years ago
One day, Israel will rid itself of the illness of rabbanite judaism which is not the mother faith of christianity, rather its a perverted backwards judaism which denies God and the Messiah Yeshua. 2ndly, Israel needs to rid itself of zionism - deaths of Palestinians proves my point.
nadav3333 4 years ago
Zionism provide better environment for Jewish nation!
Trust me! Palestinian are liar
boyaalex 4 years ago
Beautiful video! Praise YHWH! Praise Yahshua! YHWH bless you!
bsparris 4 years ago
Sha'alu Shalom L'yirushalayim - Pray for the peace of Jerusalem! In his love.. Bless you Lord of the universe who gave Israel and the Jewish people Yeshua - messiah of the world!
nadav3333 4 years ago