just so you know it takes several tank fulls of acetone for to work. and it seems work better the more you use in every tank. i never noticed a difference in my dakota until about 3 tanks ran through. however i have never had luck using xylene, it always seemed to do the opposite of what was expected.
Oh and the more you use the actetone, your car seems to run alot better. my motor at sart up stopped knocking after a few tank fuls ran through
Um i dont think it would take 5 miles to get the mix up to the injectors, a couple of abrupt stop and starts would have done that and the fact you called it a HOT lap sugests you were heavy on the pedal. the acetone claims are small ones as is like 3-10 mpgs. 10 prob is bs but 2-3 is likely so more is certainly possible, way to prove nothing.
Acetone is mildly flammable at best. I think it would be about the same as pouring some diesel in your gas tank. I can't see how this would do anything.
xylene is for increaseing your octane not for fucking gas mileage. its an old hot rod trick like mothballs or paint thinner. If i remember correctly about 2 gal. of xylene for every 7 gallons of gas or 20% xylene per gallon some shit like that. in 93 octane with xylene can give you about 118 octane. its for detonation on high compression motors not for better mpg. If you want better MPG just get and old car without computer sensors and shit and install a fucking hydrogen injection kit.
@MultiShit666 Those hydrogen kits are a scam dude... There have allready been hundreds of arrests because of complains from pissed off buyers against the people they had install them. Hell... even if it was not a scam have you seen the prices they want for the unit and installation? I did the math on this once... for the $3,000 they want for the unit and installation it would take like 5 years for the unit to pay it's self off.
@MultiShit666 Oh and why would that be? I don't know about you but I spend about $80 on gas a month (Granted my car is fairly effiecient). On the other hand I pay about $200 on income tax a month. Bear in mind that is just income tax by it's self... At best the government would only get maybe 50% of the oil profit...and that is a VERY optimistic figure. So we are talking less then $40 from the oil (and the cost of keeping this secret) compared to $200...
@MultiShit666 To put it bluntly... The government could not wipe their collective asses with oil money. Do you wan't to know why people go missing and get arrested? It is because they are commiting fraud... Some court systems take them seriously and take action against them based on the complaints of their victims. Others on the other hand lay the blame on the victims for being "stupid enough" to fall for it and choose not to waste their resources on the case.
@MultiShit666 As you can imagine the victims who essentially get ignored by our legal system don't just stop being unhappy... Some of them resort to taking action on their own. The more violent ones resort to actually killing the person who scammed them. The police in this instance would be aware of numerous complaints against the "missing" person and have a pretty good idea as to why they are "missing". They aren't very motivated to catch the person who made them "go missing" knowing this.
@MultiShit666 By the way... this Acetone bull shit has been proven not to work. Even if it did work... it slowly destroys your engine and when you compare the cost of a new engine against the fuel savings it is supposed to give you... yea... replacing the engine is going to cost you more then what it would have saved you on gas any way. But again... It has been proven not to work so it has been proven that you will just be destroying your engine for nothing. Have fun with that...
@Me102288 Yes a car can run on hydrogen, but there is a problem. The electrolysis process is horribly ineffecient. It requires far more electrical energy to create the hydrogen then the amount of energy the hydrogen produces when it burns. If you place an elecrolysis unit on the vehicle it will draw it's energy from the alternator which will in turn place more load on the engine but the hydrogen produced will not fully compensate for the extra load. Essentailly it will needlessly waste energy.
@Me102288 The electrolysis process is what is ineffecient. You seem to be mistakinly inferring that I am implying the hydrogen is what is ineffecient. The hydrogen it's self does burn cleanly and efficently however the electrolysis process which is our primary method for obtaining hydrogen is horribly ineffecient. By the way It would not be the first time a company has been conned into something stupid...
@MrAwsome514 no, I said look at the current effeciency's of electrolysis.I already know h2 is more effeciency because its 100$ recycleable.. and no other fuel is.
Its a 1 to 1 thing, it isnt gettin gmore then you put in..
like I said its a 100% recycleable process.. the ammount that you make to run the engine will always come back through the permanent magne alternators.. nmo car to move = you can syphon a bit off.. energy that would normally be moving the car.
@Me102288 I know the process works... The problem is you still ultimately get your energy from fossile fuels because it is the only method for powering a large scale production of hydrogen. You lose energy when you burn the fossile fuels to produce the electricity, lose more when you use the electricity to extract the hydrogen, and then lose even more when that hydrogen is burned. It is called diminishing returns. It is more effecient to just use the fossile fuel by that point.
so why you pick fossil fuels? I'm building another 2kilowatt (hopefully) generator with car roters a pole and some other stuff I have laying around, why the heck would I burn fossil fuels.. we dont need them anymore..
@Me102288 Maybe because the key words were large scale production? We have enough trouble trying to build small renewable energy farms as it is... Building one that could run the hydrogen production needed to meet the fuel demands would just not be realistic right now. Besides even if it was it would still be more effecient to just store the electricity in batteries and use them to power electric motors... An electric motor is a whole lot more effecient then electrolysis.
@Me102288 "it ALWAYS takes energy and gives very little back"
This is exactly what I have been saying about the electrolysis and hydrogen... So you are saying that burning fuels in an engine that is 30% effecient and then sending it through a generator that is about maybe 50% efficient at the most then sending it to an electrolysis cell which is again maybe at most 60% effecient and then sending the energy back into a 30% effecient engine is going to work better?
@MrAwsome514 30% effiecient combustion engine... ON GASOLINE..
you forgot that an internal combustion engines effeciency is based on what fuel is running.
THUS, the piles of smoke outta diesel (unburnt fuel) and gasoline, propane... natural gas..
ALL if the hydrogen burns.. ALL of it converts to kinetic energy.. now add the oxygen to the process.. oxygen you know is an accelerant. meaning MORE Combustrion for less fuel...
@Me102288 Every time energy is converted into another form energy is lost. In both your method and mine energy starts as fossile fuels and is converted into kinetic energy but Your method adds 3 more additional energy conversions to the end of that process. That is 3 more times that energy is lost.
@MrAwsome514 Oh good, then you should know Hydrogen is an energy carrier. its not converting anything, its transforming electricity into h2.
there's only one conversion, how much horsepower/torque you get from running a fuel thats simply more explosive then the previous..
which in fact is the entire basis of the effeciency if an Internal Combustion Engine. the more explosive, the easier it is to push the piston down the cyclinder..
@MrAwsome514 my intellegence? well I do know some basic electronics..
and taking one type of electricity to store into another is called transforming. Converting it into a different type of energy = much less effecienct.
do you know hydrogen is an energy carrier..
the difference is one is plain old electricity, the other is that electricity is a form of explosive..
the energy put into making gasoline is 20x what it takes to get hydrogen. peroid
@Me102288 By the way it is more explosive PER VOLUME. In other words 1 gallon of hydrogen will be more powerful then one gallon of gasoline but you are forgetting something... Lets just use an example (and this is just an example mind you) lets say one gallon of hydrogen has the same amount of energy as 2 gallons of gasoline. Well let's also say it takes burning 3 gallons of gasoline to produce one gallon of hydrogen. Would that be an energy gain or an energy loss?
@MrAwsome514 for real it doesnt take hardley any gas to produce the electricity needed to make h2 and all you need to make HHO is a current thru water
@Jasin2183 Actually it takes a lot of power to produce hydrogen in any decent volume. How can I put this into perspective... For example my car has a v6 and typically runs at around 2000 rpms. A two stroke engine has each cylinder fire on every other stroke so that means a cylinder fires 6000 times in one minute. Mind you... my car is definately not a very gas hungry vehicle. To put a dent in that you need a very powerful electrolysis system which will need a lot of electricity.
@MrAwsome514 That didnt put anything in perspective, 2 stroke v6? who the hell has one of those under the hood? or any 2 stroke car for that matter? I am a mechanic so dont bs me, and i wasnt talking about running your car soley on HHO im talking about the various easy to build kits that give any where from 30-50% mpg increase like the one on my vehicle that boosted my 04 frontier from 24-36 mpgs on average! And it only draws about 15amps, ive seen kits and configs that draw as little as 3amps
@Jasin2183 Yea... 15 amps at 12 volts is 180 watts. But more importantly what is the rate at which it produces the hydrogen? The problem with these things is they do not produce as much energy as they consume. Here is a thought... if they really did work that would mean they where over 100% effecient. In other words you could rig one up to just purely burn hydrogen and it could run forever. I mean the hho just recombines into water vapor when burned so you can just recycle the "fuel"...
@Me102288 36 watts is a lot of power for a mere 1.5 liters... Ofcourse then again this scam is meant to prey on make believe experts such as yourself. Judging by what you have said in the last few comments you know only about 1/7 of the amount of information you would need to know to actually understand what you are talking about.
@Jasin2183 So tell me... Why has no one tried making an overunity generator with this? I mean if it really worked then it should be possible to just do that and be done with the fossile fules all together. Oh but that's right it wouldn't work... Because it is not over 100% effecient. It is infact wasting energy and must have the gasoline there to make up for the energy lost so that it can keep driving and give the appearance that it works.
@MrAwsome514 your car isnt 2stroke.. it doesn't take as much hydrogen and oxygen to achieve the same explosion therefore you need less hho the gasoline..
and a 6 litre engine does not take 6 liters of fuel per 2000 rpms, newer drycells are taking around 260 to generate a litre of hho..
The BMW Hydrogen 7 takes 50 liters per 100km..(Its a 6 liter v12)
so at 80 kilometers an hour we'd generate more then enough on th vehicles alternator alone.
E is the energy you start with in the fissile fuel being burned. M is the energy lost from the engine burning it. G is the energy lost in the generator converting it into electricity. H is the energy lost in producing the hydrogen. X and Y are the energy that is left after the entire process.
@Me102288 My mistake Actually I am the one saying Y > X... You are the one saying that X > Y. So tell me... How do you subtract more energy from what you started with and come out with more energy left? THe math simply does not back you up.
this will only work with pure acetone, without a stabilizer in it. the use of xylene would counteract the acetone.. acetone is extremely flammable, but its primary use in this expiriment is its evaporative properties. xylene is a plant based sugar product, but even alcohol wouldnt help. what this does to your fuel systems gaskets and rings, i dont know. but hairdressers get pure acetone.
@decibel333 ahh! i had to look it up.. i had gotten xylene and xylitol backward. ive never heard of hydrogen peroxide as an additive.. will have to investigate that as well. have you tried this? of course there are a million posts on acetone.. and they all say something different, it aggrivates me trying to research things like this.. seems like i cannot find any bottom line on topics such as these
@carpetmonk Sorry I didn't mean to imply H2O2 would make a good stabilizer... more the opposite. Hydrogen peroxide requires a stabilizer is all I meant...
@decibel333 have you heard any research using H202? ill have to look into it. its possible that regular commercial fuel is optimized perfectly.. and all these expiriments are paper tigers, or.. maybe they do work.. but at the expense of the health of the engine.. if ya run across any good articles shoot the link this way.
@david880brown opposite for Hydrogen.. lol damn o2 senser detects its to lean and adds more gasoline :-\ no wonder ppl call itr a scam, you need to tune the engine for ant kind of fuel.. namely, stop it from dumping more fuel in..
Now ya know why the implemented Electronic injection system, and got rid of cartbourators... there way of screwing us out of more fuel mileage :-\ its true, because a carbourated engine orks without EFI just fine..
@Me102288 Idiot. Even with correcting the injection system issues you still are not overcomming the fact that the hydrogen does not make up for the energy lost by the extra draw on the alternator. If this system worked you wouldn't need the gasoline. Because you would have achieved overunity. Which is physically impossible.
@Me102288 If this system worked you would not be pushing for it to be added to gas engines. You would be pushing for it to be built as an overunity generator. In order for it to be worth using it would require that the hydrogen put out more energy then it's production consumes. Which would mean you could just make a hydrogen powered engine, hook it to a generator and electrolysis cell, and bam all the energy you could ever need.
@Me102288 If energy from the engine can be extracted via the alternator, sent to the electrolysis unit, and then used to extract hydrogen to be burned back in the engine to produce more energy then you started with (mind you the hydrogen combines back with oxygen as it is burned forming the water you started with again too...) Then that would mean you shouldn't need the gas at all. It should be able to power it's self indefinately. So why aren't you trying to build an overunity generator?
Did you know that if you add 2 cups of sugar to your oil it will improve your gas milage by 100% ?? This is because most japanese and american cars have a faulty diabetic converter after being driven only 700 miles on low octane fuel. This trick works every time and is gaurenteed to make the engine seize, to have this problem, follow the directions !!
@mrbooziebrews i did that to i also put some gummy bears in there and my ford expedition went from 11.3 mpg to 789.9 mpg i know i couldnt believe it either.
@8320884 wow,... almost 790 mpg,..impressive ! I never would have thought of gummy bears for that particular application, but it makes sense ! They're like little gas saving pellets, and they taste good too !
I've been doing this "sugar trick" for quite a while and sometimes it can be a little messy, so just recently I've started using strait pancake syrup with excellent results, it's easyer to pour into my engine and seems to work just as good !! I can't wait to try it with gummy bears !!!!!!
Some people have noted that they only get results with acetone when using premium fuel. I believe this may be related to the different octane standards from state to state as well as the different additives that are in each brand of gasoline. I've always used Chevron gasoline and got decent results with just regular grade, however this may be different in other states or other brands of gasoline. Other peope ONLY got results when they added an 02 sensor chip enhancer. E-10 fuel is another story
We found that even just half an ounce over the optimum ratio of acetone to gasoline would negate the MPG increase. The more acetone added in excess of the optimum ratio resulted in MPG numbers continuing to drop to the point that the test car would actually get worse MPG's than with no acetone at all. So always start out with just one ounce per 10 gallons and with each consecutive fill-up try adding an additional half ounce until you find out the correct ratio for the car you are testing.
I've (with several other people) used acetone as an additive for many years off and on now in 6 different vehicles. The increase in MPG's varies depending on the car itself. One very important thing we found when first experimenting with different quantities or ratios was that more is NOT better. On the majority of cars that we tested, the ratio that delivered the best return was between 1.5 to 3 ouces of pure acetone per 10 gallons of fuel, with most of them around 1.5.
Also the issue with acetone is not that it increases the amount of carbon, but it first adds oxygen to the gas which is crucial for the burning I.E it fixes the oxygen balance and since acetone is more volatile then the gasoline it helps to vaporize the gas and causes less of it to be wasted or passed on unburnt through the system. It has nothing to do with the carbon content or energy content of the acetone molecule.
Yes, the energy comes from oxidizing the Carbons to CO2 in the gasoline but that is not all you also oxidize the hydrogen to water and that supplies energy. Diesel, does supply more energy because it has more carbons so it takes up more space, technically you really are not getting that much improvement you are just increasing the amount of carbon burnt....but in ratio it should be nearly the same.
at the amounts of acetone being used in my experiments it was costing me approximately 35 cents per of acetone per tank of gas. Due to the recent addition of ethanol to gas the acetone to gasoline ratio will have to be increased to compensate. Do not let your minds be swayed by what people in power say, try things out for yourselves it really works well even amazingly!!!
Do not buy into all of what the gas companies are saying, the recent addition of alcohol to the gas has lowered milages considerably as it has the opposite affect of the acetone, it demotes vaporization of the gasoline. They say they added it because of increased oxygen balance, acetone would also add oxygen to the fuel and has and octane rating of 150, while toluene (if i remember correctly but I could be wrong) has an octane rating of 115.
present in the tank can save me a full two gallons per tank of gas that is say 5 dollars a tank possibly 500 or 700 dollars a year depending on your driving patterns. Also I found that the concurrent use of acetone and toluene can improve gas mileage in my 1999 nissan altima by 10 miles give or take per gallon. as in I was getting a good 43-45 miles per-gallon on a long trip when i was usually getting 30-32 miles per gallon.
meaning that they wont dissolve in water and alcohol. Also it means that they may dissolve in organics but considering that gasoline itself is a very powerful organic solvent...the fact that acetone severely harms them must be exaggerated. In-fact I have done systematic tests with acetone previously, under relatively controlled conditions (as controlled as traveling the same 50mile path everyday can be) and found that acetone put in a small amount even 1/640 of the amount of gasoline
first off do not trust the MPG reading on that thing that thing fluctuates by the angle of the road it almost seems, so! hello, I am a biochemist and I would like to explain that a lot of the destructive properties of the acetone as described is over-rated, acetone is a polar organic solvent,...I.E. it dissolves organic polar and inorganic polar substances(such as water) and non-polar alike. The thing is all the rubber and stuff in the car is make of essentially non-polar organic polymers
No we have tried .5oz 1oz 2oz 3oz and it may work for a 1/2 tank to 1 tank full. After that the ECU that is set for 14.7-1 AFR. adjusts AFR back to 14.7-1
you would need to run in open loop to see MPG go up and stay up.
you used too much...3 aceton+3 xyline makes 6 ounces...do not add more than 3 ounce per 10 gallon...try half of that amount,you will see at least %20 saving...I do all the time...do not forget more additive reduce the savings,just use amount you need...max 3oz...no more....2oz per 10 gallons is best for my mercedes E350....i save %25....engine runs better too...plus %10 more bhp
there are only two semi-scientific tests on the internet (and you don't claim that yours is scientific), and neither of them show major increases in gas mileage, but nonetheless this appears to be a very contraversial subject.
I think ur suppose to add Acetone/Xylene into a homemade (1 gal) gasoline bubbler/vaporizer and send those vapors into intake via vacuum. Thats when you sould seen a big difference in mpg. I haven't tried this yet, but im planning to. Oxygen sensors should take care of the rest
hey tacoma, i used to do that with my mustang going down the mountains in cumberland. Except i just took it out of gear to keep my steering and brakes, lol. nothing like coasting at 80mph @900rpm for a good couple miles.
why would you choose a car that gets 40 miles per gallon. The reason why acetone works is because it helps a car waste less fuel by burning all of it getting the most out it. You should have chose a vehilce that gets 12 miles to the gallon and has 8 cyclinders and just guzzles gas. A car that you can smell the fuel being wasted out the tail pipe. Why has no one tested this on a truck or car like mine?
I drive a 1994 Oldsmobile that guzzles gas, the last fill up I used Octane gas plus I added an ounce of acetone. So far the exhaust does not smell of gasoline so I am starting to see some benefit.
Success is higher if you lean out the electric signal going from the O2 sensor to the ECU, this can be done with a simple chip spliced into the line. The computer never detects a lean A/F ratio, and thus never adds more fuel to bring it back to spec.
An added bonus is there is no longer a need for a catalytic converter!
Leaning an engine out that way will give an increase in MPG but does NOT decrease all pollutants in the exhaust. Release of nitrogen oxides will go up during a lean burn condition.
When nitrogen oxides are mixed with VOC's and sunlight, you get smog, which is a known health hazard. It can also lead to the formation of acid rain under the right conditions.
That can be true in terms of generating more NO's per gallon. But did you factor in the amount of fuel will be needed. You will waste more fuel and thus generate more NO's even the percentage is lower. in addition to that, if you have a more fuel efficient car, you generate less heat and less CO's into the environment.
@MileagePros Who cares about polutions your car is giving if you can save on gasoline? It will have so small damage if you do it that nobody will even notice.
@MileagePros and leaning a mixture heats up a motor, reduces reliability over time and is just a really dumb idea. if anyone wants to save gas take the crap out of your car, change the oil on time and tune it up at whatever interval is recomended
@vettefan77 hey I removed my catalytic converter and I have noticed major drop in MPG! how can I fix this issue with this chip that youre talking about? can you show me a tutorial video or website where I can this chip from?
I have an '86 Prelude Si thats been used as my fuel-saver guinea pig. 2.0L engine, auto trans, 260k miles on the motor.
before acetone: 27-28 mpg highway
after 3oz acetone/10gal gas: 32-33 mpg
with a good tail-wind i once got 36 mpg.
Acetone DOES work, but as many have said...there are several variables. It works by relieving the surface tension of gasoline, helping it to vaporize easier.
Here are the surface tensions of a few compounds found in gas-n-Hexane 18.43,n-Octane 21.62,Cyclohexane 24.95, o-Xylene 30.10. Ethanol is 22.10 which is lower than acetone which has a surface tension of 25.20 in mN/m.
These make up to 63% of the mixture. I dont believe adding less than 1/2% acetone will do anything but make the cost of a tank of gas go up.
I still believe people are changing their driving style because they want to see the increase that is supposed to be there.
@MileagePros - interesting stats. I know for sure my driving style hasnt changed, so if it isnt surface tension, maybe just an octane booster? shrugs...
as far as decreasing pollutants, im now running the system in conjunction with a Browns gas electrolyzer. Same crappy honda, now getting 42 mpg on the highway, and lower emissions than a Prius
When I used acetone Xylene in my gas that didn't contain ethanol I saw a 2-3 MPG increase.
So far with ethanol no increase but any cars ECU is set for 14.7-1 AFR
When there is an increase in MPG more oxygen will flow by the O2 censor which will give a higher AFR. The ECU then will bring AFR back down to 14.7-1. Which will bring MPG back down.
relocateing your intake air temp sensor to a constant source of cold air(wheel well, basically anywhere you can get a constant temperature LOWER than the intake charge) this will enrichen your afr to possibly 12:1 at most. its best to invest in an air fuel controller and you can even retard advance yoru ignition timings for certain rpm, load etc the possibilites are endless
I use 0.25 ounces of Acetone per gallon of premium gasoline and get 25-30% increase in MPG with my 1993 Toyota Previa. I can't get my roommate to do the math, but he swears he is getting a huge increase in MPG. He can swear all he wants and it will mean nothing without the math. My neighbor did the math and always adds Acetone now. My motorcycle went from about 43 MPG to 70 MPG. It is hard to believe, but I checked it over and over. I haven't tried Xylene yet.
Yes I agree. But never "give in." This has been the damise of every culture that has ever collapsed in history. Who knows. Maby the've been adding more to the fuel then being told. My mileage in my Merc used to be 23 in town. Now its only 20 - so something is going on.
Well theres alot of variables there. Does the fuel contain ethenol? If so acetone will do nothing. Thats a biggie. Also make sure that the timing is good. MAF?O2 cencors and all that. The website that started all this was lubedev - and the guy that puts out all the research owns a 95 Neon in which all the testing is done on. My Grand Marquis see's a 2 to 3mpg difference. And take note of what i said before. Do not use a scan gauge.
Im very familiar with Lou LaPointe and lubedev/brightgreen/smartgas. The car,a 2002 neon is in good shape. Timing is controlled by the ECM. Gas used did have just over 5% ethanol but has also been tested with straight gas. Can no longer find gas in this area w/o ethanol. I have tried this in my 2000 neon and 2006 kia with the same results using both the scangauge and miles driven/gallons used.
Oil companies are going to get your money one way or another whether it acetone for $16/gal or $4 gas
You need to use 3 to 4 ounces per ten gallons, not 12.5. Also make sure its pure of course. Also i wouldnt use a scangauge. Use the original tachometer method. Good luck
The acetone used was 100% pure from Sally Beauty Supply. We have tried from 1oz to 5oz and everywhere in between. Tried it alone and tried it with equal amounts of xylene and Torco GP7. The only way I can see that acetone would help improve mpg is if the injectors were dirty. Adding acetone would clean them up. If people really believe that acetone helps, (placebo effect?) by all means, use it. I really don't think adding that small amount to 10 gallons of gas is going to hurt anything.
The amount of acetone used = .1875% of 12.5 gallons, a very small amount. Xylene is already a component of gas and will do no harm. I change oil between 8k-12k miles and have it analyzed by an independent lab. I used acetone/xylene for 9 months or about 20k miles. Ive never had any problems with the oil breaking down or seals leaking with 222,000 miles on engine. In the 9 months that I used it though, I never saw an increase in mpg and agree that acetone does nothing of value.
Xylene has been mentioned on other sites as a mpg booster when mixed with acetone. Some also add diesel fuel or 2 stroke oil too. A lot of gasolines sold today all ready contain up to 22% xylene but we used it any way to show 3 ozs would make no difference in mpg.
I haven't seen a car yet that gets better mpg from using acetone. What I do see is people changing their driving habits because they want to see that increase that acetone is supposed to give.
Dont do it It decreases your fuel efficiency if you dont program the ECU
Bestundesun 2 weeks ago
fucc u craccer!!!
18peace11 3 weeks ago
just so you know it takes several tank fulls of acetone for to work. and it seems work better the more you use in every tank. i never noticed a difference in my dakota until about 3 tanks ran through. however i have never had luck using xylene, it always seemed to do the opposite of what was expected.
Oh and the more you use the actetone, your car seems to run alot better. my motor at sart up stopped knocking after a few tank fuls ran through
MrChindow 3 weeks ago
thats polluting the air even worse
ThisLaoGuy 4 weeks ago
Um i dont think it would take 5 miles to get the mix up to the injectors, a couple of abrupt stop and starts would have done that and the fact you called it a HOT lap sugests you were heavy on the pedal. the acetone claims are small ones as is like 3-10 mpgs. 10 prob is bs but 2-3 is likely so more is certainly possible, way to prove nothing.
Jasin2183 1 month ago
Acetone is mildly flammable at best. I think it would be about the same as pouring some diesel in your gas tank. I can't see how this would do anything.
Mlwtca 1 month ago
@Mlwtca it doesnt, and the gases affect the o2 senser, which in turn gives you a wrong reading..
fact is the gas stations get charged here $5000 if they put acetone in they're supply..
Why? because it destroys engines
Me102288 1 month ago
I tried this once, it did nothing for me.
BMLarson93 2 months ago
xylene is for increaseing your octane not for fucking gas mileage. its an old hot rod trick like mothballs or paint thinner. If i remember correctly about 2 gal. of xylene for every 7 gallons of gas or 20% xylene per gallon some shit like that. in 93 octane with xylene can give you about 118 octane. its for detonation on high compression motors not for better mpg. If you want better MPG just get and old car without computer sensors and shit and install a fucking hydrogen injection kit.
MultiShit666 3 months ago
@MultiShit666 Those hydrogen kits are a scam dude... There have allready been hundreds of arrests because of complains from pissed off buyers against the people they had install them. Hell... even if it was not a scam have you seen the prices they want for the unit and installation? I did the math on this once... for the $3,000 they want for the unit and installation it would take like 5 years for the unit to pay it's self off.
MrAwsome514 2 months ago
@MrAwsome514 the gov. wants you to buy petroleum. alot of ppl go missin and get arrested.
MultiShit666 2 months ago
@MultiShit666 Oh and why would that be? I don't know about you but I spend about $80 on gas a month (Granted my car is fairly effiecient). On the other hand I pay about $200 on income tax a month. Bear in mind that is just income tax by it's self... At best the government would only get maybe 50% of the oil profit...and that is a VERY optimistic figure. So we are talking less then $40 from the oil (and the cost of keeping this secret) compared to $200...
MrAwsome514 2 months ago
@MultiShit666 To put it bluntly... The government could not wipe their collective asses with oil money. Do you wan't to know why people go missing and get arrested? It is because they are commiting fraud... Some court systems take them seriously and take action against them based on the complaints of their victims. Others on the other hand lay the blame on the victims for being "stupid enough" to fall for it and choose not to waste their resources on the case.
MrAwsome514 2 months ago
@MultiShit666 As you can imagine the victims who essentially get ignored by our legal system don't just stop being unhappy... Some of them resort to taking action on their own. The more violent ones resort to actually killing the person who scammed them. The police in this instance would be aware of numerous complaints against the "missing" person and have a pretty good idea as to why they are "missing". They aren't very motivated to catch the person who made them "go missing" knowing this.
MrAwsome514 2 months ago
@MultiShit666 By the way... this Acetone bull shit has been proven not to work. Even if it did work... it slowly destroys your engine and when you compare the cost of a new engine against the fuel savings it is supposed to give you... yea... replacing the engine is going to cost you more then what it would have saved you on gas any way. But again... It has been proven not to work so it has been proven that you will just be destroying your engine for nothing. Have fun with that...
MrAwsome514 2 months ago
@MrAwsome514 ok, shoulda read this one before I posted the same thing.. lol
yep destroys engines, the paki run gas station in my old town were jailed after using it to make more money while selling less actual gasoline.
found something that does work though, Hydrogen you get out of the electrolysis of water..
been proven an engine can run completely off it..
so half gasoline, half hydrogen = actually saves gasoline.. is cleaner to, no cartbon :-)
Me102288 1 month ago
@Me102288 Yes a car can run on hydrogen, but there is a problem. The electrolysis process is horribly ineffecient. It requires far more electrical energy to create the hydrogen then the amount of energy the hydrogen produces when it burns. If you place an elecrolysis unit on the vehicle it will draw it's energy from the alternator which will in turn place more load on the engine but the hydrogen produced will not fully compensate for the extra load. Essentailly it will needlessly waste energy.
MrAwsome514 1 month ago
@MrAwsome514 hehe, ya that must be why a lot of the large trucjing companies are outfitting there fleets with them...
you might actually want to look at the specs for Electrolysis, not the "scams"
which really are scams... they sell a substandard product for more then its work.
you see those scam samurai swords? they break when ya hiy anything...
but the real ones made by honest people like you and me work very well
Look at the effeciency of fuels on wiki.
Me102288 1 month ago
@Me102288 The electrolysis process is what is ineffecient. You seem to be mistakinly inferring that I am implying the hydrogen is what is ineffecient. The hydrogen it's self does burn cleanly and efficently however the electrolysis process which is our primary method for obtaining hydrogen is horribly ineffecient. By the way It would not be the first time a company has been conned into something stupid...
MrAwsome514 1 month ago
@MrAwsome514 no, I said look at the current effeciency's of electrolysis.I already know h2 is more effeciency because its 100$ recycleable.. and no other fuel is.
Its a 1 to 1 thing, it isnt gettin gmore then you put in..
like I said its a 100% recycleable process.. the ammount that you make to run the engine will always come back through the permanent magne alternators.. nmo car to move = you can syphon a bit off.. energy that would normally be moving the car.
simple
Me102288 1 month ago
@MrAwsome514 oh by the way mines about $140 , like I said. Learn how electrolysis works and avoid the scammers.
they do not cost $3000.. thus that PERSON is a SCAMMER
that doesnt mean it doesnt work.
Me102288 1 month ago
@Me102288 I know the process works... The problem is you still ultimately get your energy from fossile fuels because it is the only method for powering a large scale production of hydrogen. You lose energy when you burn the fossile fuels to produce the electricity, lose more when you use the electricity to extract the hydrogen, and then lose even more when that hydrogen is burned. It is called diminishing returns. It is more effecient to just use the fossile fuel by that point.
MrAwsome514 1 month ago
@MrAwsome514 wind turbines, solar.. hydroelectric...
so why you pick fossil fuels? I'm building another 2kilowatt (hopefully) generator with car roters a pole and some other stuff I have laying around, why the heck would I burn fossil fuels.. we dont need them anymore..
Me102288 1 month ago
@Me102288 Maybe because the key words were large scale production? We have enough trouble trying to build small renewable energy farms as it is... Building one that could run the hydrogen production needed to meet the fuel demands would just not be realistic right now. Besides even if it was it would still be more effecient to just store the electricity in batteries and use them to power electric motors... An electric motor is a whole lot more effecient then electrolysis.
MrAwsome514 1 month ago
@MrAwsome514 an electric moter cant be more.. because it ALWAYS takes energy and gives very little back.
or are you saying it can take energy and generate it back while moving a .. say 1400 pound vehicle?
I know regenerative braking helps, but its only when your slowing down..
50% effecient at best :-\
Me102288 1 month ago
@Me102288 "it ALWAYS takes energy and gives very little back"
This is exactly what I have been saying about the electrolysis and hydrogen... So you are saying that burning fuels in an engine that is 30% effecient and then sending it through a generator that is about maybe 50% efficient at the most then sending it to an electrolysis cell which is again maybe at most 60% effecient and then sending the energy back into a 30% effecient engine is going to work better?
MrAwsome514 1 month ago
@MrAwsome514 30% effiecient combustion engine... ON GASOLINE..
you forgot that an internal combustion engines effeciency is based on what fuel is running.
THUS, the piles of smoke outta diesel (unburnt fuel) and gasoline, propane... natural gas..
ALL if the hydrogen burns.. ALL of it converts to kinetic energy.. now add the oxygen to the process.. oxygen you know is an accelerant. meaning MORE Combustrion for less fuel...
Me102288 1 month ago
@Me102288 Every time energy is converted into another form energy is lost. In both your method and mine energy starts as fossile fuels and is converted into kinetic energy but Your method adds 3 more additional energy conversions to the end of that process. That is 3 more times that energy is lost.
X-(Yx2) > X-(Yx5)
It is that simple.
MrAwsome514 1 month ago
@MrAwsome514 Oh good, then you should know Hydrogen is an energy carrier. its not converting anything, its transforming electricity into h2.
there's only one conversion, how much horsepower/torque you get from running a fuel thats simply more explosive then the previous..
which in fact is the entire basis of the effeciency if an Internal Combustion Engine. the more explosive, the easier it is to push the piston down the cyclinder..
Me102288 1 month ago
@Me102288 "its not converting anything, its transforming electricity into h2."
That statement sums up your intelligence quite nicely.
MrAwsome514 1 month ago
@MrAwsome514 my intellegence? well I do know some basic electronics..
and taking one type of electricity to store into another is called transforming. Converting it into a different type of energy = much less effecienct.
do you know hydrogen is an energy carrier..
the difference is one is plain old electricity, the other is that electricity is a form of explosive..
the energy put into making gasoline is 20x what it takes to get hydrogen. peroid
Me102288 3 weeks ago
@Me102288 By the way it is more explosive PER VOLUME. In other words 1 gallon of hydrogen will be more powerful then one gallon of gasoline but you are forgetting something... Lets just use an example (and this is just an example mind you) lets say one gallon of hydrogen has the same amount of energy as 2 gallons of gasoline. Well let's also say it takes burning 3 gallons of gasoline to produce one gallon of hydrogen. Would that be an energy gain or an energy loss?
MrAwsome514 1 month ago
@MrAwsome514 for real it doesnt take hardley any gas to produce the electricity needed to make h2 and all you need to make HHO is a current thru water
Jasin2183 1 month ago
@Jasin2183 Actually it takes a lot of power to produce hydrogen in any decent volume. How can I put this into perspective... For example my car has a v6 and typically runs at around 2000 rpms. A two stroke engine has each cylinder fire on every other stroke so that means a cylinder fires 6000 times in one minute. Mind you... my car is definately not a very gas hungry vehicle. To put a dent in that you need a very powerful electrolysis system which will need a lot of electricity.
MrAwsome514 1 month ago
@MrAwsome514 That didnt put anything in perspective, 2 stroke v6? who the hell has one of those under the hood? or any 2 stroke car for that matter? I am a mechanic so dont bs me, and i wasnt talking about running your car soley on HHO im talking about the various easy to build kits that give any where from 30-50% mpg increase like the one on my vehicle that boosted my 04 frontier from 24-36 mpgs on average! And it only draws about 15amps, ive seen kits and configs that draw as little as 3amps
Jasin2183 1 month ago
@Jasin2183 Yea... 15 amps at 12 volts is 180 watts. But more importantly what is the rate at which it produces the hydrogen? The problem with these things is they do not produce as much energy as they consume. Here is a thought... if they really did work that would mean they where over 100% effecient. In other words you could rig one up to just purely burn hydrogen and it could run forever. I mean the hho just recombines into water vapor when burned so you can just recycle the "fuel"...
MrAwsome514 1 month ago
@MrAwsome514 holy.. 15 amps with the little drycell I got you'd need 5 of them..
theyre max is 1.5 liter of hho per minute at 12v 3amps
Lot of idea's out making them even more effecient, mines just hooked up to a Computer power supply.. no pwn or resonance
Me102288 3 weeks ago
@Me102288 36 watts is a lot of power for a mere 1.5 liters... Ofcourse then again this scam is meant to prey on make believe experts such as yourself. Judging by what you have said in the last few comments you know only about 1/7 of the amount of information you would need to know to actually understand what you are talking about.
MrAwsome514 3 weeks ago
@Jasin2183 So tell me... Why has no one tried making an overunity generator with this? I mean if it really worked then it should be possible to just do that and be done with the fossile fules all together. Oh but that's right it wouldn't work... Because it is not over 100% effecient. It is infact wasting energy and must have the gasoline there to make up for the energy lost so that it can keep driving and give the appearance that it works.
MrAwsome514 1 month ago
@Jasin2183 hmm the bnw Hydrogen 7 claims 50 Liters per 100km I think thats H2 liquid.
hydrogen compress's to a liquid at around 35 psi :-\ figure we can make our own and mount it up and cal it the new NOS... ;-)
Nasa confirmed they use it because its "the best we can get" cept when they "it the button" thery're pullin a million some horsepower haha
Me102288 3 weeks ago
@MrAwsome514 your car isnt 2stroke.. it doesn't take as much hydrogen and oxygen to achieve the same explosion therefore you need less hho the gasoline..
and a 6 litre engine does not take 6 liters of fuel per 2000 rpms, newer drycells are taking around 260 to generate a litre of hho..
The BMW Hydrogen 7 takes 50 liters per 100km..(Its a 6 liter v12)
so at 80 kilometers an hour we'd generate more then enough on th vehicles alternator alone.
OMG...it is true
Me102288 3 weeks ago
@Jasin2183 not so simple nowadays, been a lot of ways to make it more efficient..
but bisically ya, throw a 9 volt battery in water and a bit of salt or baking soda and you'll get HHO
to simple almost lol
Me102288 3 weeks ago
@Me102288 Here let me lay out the math for you.
(With the hydrogen set up) e - m - g - h - m = x
(without the hydrogen set up) e - m = y
E is the energy you start with in the fissile fuel being burned. M is the energy lost from the engine burning it. G is the energy lost in the generator converting it into electricity. H is the energy lost in producing the hydrogen. X and Y are the energy that is left after the entire process.
According to what you are saying Y > X...
MrAwsome514 1 month ago
@Me102288 My mistake Actually I am the one saying Y > X... You are the one saying that X > Y. So tell me... How do you subtract more energy from what you started with and come out with more energy left? THe math simply does not back you up.
MrAwsome514 1 month ago
ha, bunch of ragheads got caught for adding that in they're gas to make more money. regardless, theyre still paying off the $15000 fine.
destroying your engine is not an acceptable way to make money.
Me102288 3 months ago
i did this in my 99 corolla. did NOT save gas. Used MORE gas.
ff8123 4 months ago
@peak199 - nice assumption, tell me how it will ruin an engine. try offering some actual data, or tests youve done before opening your mouth eh?
vettefan77 6 months ago
@vettefan77 its caustic for one, and dissolve many forms of engine gaskets..
2 it accelerates corrosion by increasing the temperature if the fuel burning..
this is why fuel stations are sued when they dump the shit in they're tanks to make extra cash.
saves money.. dunno, depends on how many miles you save per how much it is to replace your engine.. and car nowadays :-\
Me102288 1 month ago
I read that you gotta use pure acetone.
chevyfeen86 6 months ago
I heard u need 2 oz per gallon acetone...
MNBLAZER07 8 months ago
This works fine in LEASED or RENTAL cars. I wouldn't even think about putting that crap in any car that you OWN.
chipjumper 9 months ago
OMG... a Neon gets 40+ MPG!!! You should send your findings to Dodge. The EPA only rated it at 31 MPG
greg032375 9 months ago
I am sure the acetone is a myth, but why didnt you use cruise control? your mpg's were all over the place.
GasGuzzler2004 10 months ago
or you could just build an HHO generator like stan meyers
x251k 10 months ago
note: the use of more acetone decreases fuel economy. Ideal ratio = 1 ounce acetone per 10 gallons of gasoline.
cooldood1025 11 months ago
this will only work with pure acetone, without a stabilizer in it. the use of xylene would counteract the acetone.. acetone is extremely flammable, but its primary use in this expiriment is its evaporative properties. xylene is a plant based sugar product, but even alcohol wouldnt help. what this does to your fuel systems gaskets and rings, i dont know. but hairdressers get pure acetone.
carpetmonk 11 months ago
@carpetmonk Acetone doesn't need a stabilizer... maybe you're thinking of hydrogen peroxide?
Also, Xylene is an aromatic hydrocarbon typically refined from crude oil
decibel333 8 months ago
@decibel333 ahh! i had to look it up.. i had gotten xylene and xylitol backward. ive never heard of hydrogen peroxide as an additive.. will have to investigate that as well. have you tried this? of course there are a million posts on acetone.. and they all say something different, it aggrivates me trying to research things like this.. seems like i cannot find any bottom line on topics such as these
carpetmonk 8 months ago
@carpetmonk Sorry I didn't mean to imply H2O2 would make a good stabilizer... more the opposite. Hydrogen peroxide requires a stabilizer is all I meant...
decibel333 8 months ago
@decibel333 have you heard any research using H202? ill have to look into it. its possible that regular commercial fuel is optimized perfectly.. and all these expiriments are paper tigers, or.. maybe they do work.. but at the expense of the health of the engine.. if ya run across any good articles shoot the link this way.
carpetmonk 8 months ago
I would say you're mixture was a little rich
david880brown 1 year ago
@david880brown opposite for Hydrogen.. lol damn o2 senser detects its to lean and adds more gasoline :-\ no wonder ppl call itr a scam, you need to tune the engine for ant kind of fuel.. namely, stop it from dumping more fuel in..
Now ya know why the implemented Electronic injection system, and got rid of cartbourators... there way of screwing us out of more fuel mileage :-\ its true, because a carbourated engine orks without EFI just fine..
Me102288 1 month ago
@Me102288 Idiot. Even with correcting the injection system issues you still are not overcomming the fact that the hydrogen does not make up for the energy lost by the extra draw on the alternator. If this system worked you wouldn't need the gasoline. Because you would have achieved overunity. Which is physically impossible.
MrAwsome514 1 month ago
@Me102288 If this system worked you would not be pushing for it to be added to gas engines. You would be pushing for it to be built as an overunity generator. In order for it to be worth using it would require that the hydrogen put out more energy then it's production consumes. Which would mean you could just make a hydrogen powered engine, hook it to a generator and electrolysis cell, and bam all the energy you could ever need.
MrAwsome514 1 month ago
@Me102288 If energy from the engine can be extracted via the alternator, sent to the electrolysis unit, and then used to extract hydrogen to be burned back in the engine to produce more energy then you started with (mind you the hydrogen combines back with oxygen as it is burned forming the water you started with again too...) Then that would mean you shouldn't need the gas at all. It should be able to power it's self indefinately. So why aren't you trying to build an overunity generator?
MrAwsome514 1 month ago
15ml of pure acetone per 1 litre of fuel.. thats all nothing else lol.. you DONT add zylen
nickernosher 1 year ago
Did you know that if you add 2 cups of sugar to your oil it will improve your gas milage by 100% ?? This is because most japanese and american cars have a faulty diabetic converter after being driven only 700 miles on low octane fuel. This trick works every time and is gaurenteed to make the engine seize, to have this problem, follow the directions !!
mrbooziebrews 1 year ago
@mrbooziebrews i did that to i also put some gummy bears in there and my ford expedition went from 11.3 mpg to 789.9 mpg i know i couldnt believe it either.
8320884 1 year ago
@8320884 wow,... almost 790 mpg,..impressive ! I never would have thought of gummy bears for that particular application, but it makes sense ! They're like little gas saving pellets, and they taste good too !
I've been doing this "sugar trick" for quite a while and sometimes it can be a little messy, so just recently I've started using strait pancake syrup with excellent results, it's easyer to pour into my engine and seems to work just as good !! I can't wait to try it with gummy bears !!!!!!
mrbooziebrews 1 year ago
@mrbooziebrews ROFLMAO U MADE MY DAY SIR.
8320884 1 year ago
@mrbooziebrews Sugar does not dissolve in petrol/gas and will block you're filters! you've got to dissolve it in water first
david880brown 1 year ago
@mrbooziebrews But don't put diabetic sugar in your car, or else it will get cancer.
neutral999 1 year ago
If the gasoline contained ethanol, there's no way it would of have worked..
LeoLovesNature 1 year ago
best thing to do is tak the engine and trans out and move the car wit our feet
MikeWithBigTube 1 year ago
Some people have noted that they only get results with acetone when using premium fuel. I believe this may be related to the different octane standards from state to state as well as the different additives that are in each brand of gasoline. I've always used Chevron gasoline and got decent results with just regular grade, however this may be different in other states or other brands of gasoline. Other peope ONLY got results when they added an 02 sensor chip enhancer. E-10 fuel is another story
wppdoes 1 year ago
We found that even just half an ounce over the optimum ratio of acetone to gasoline would negate the MPG increase. The more acetone added in excess of the optimum ratio resulted in MPG numbers continuing to drop to the point that the test car would actually get worse MPG's than with no acetone at all. So always start out with just one ounce per 10 gallons and with each consecutive fill-up try adding an additional half ounce until you find out the correct ratio for the car you are testing.
wppdoes 1 year ago
I've (with several other people) used acetone as an additive for many years off and on now in 6 different vehicles. The increase in MPG's varies depending on the car itself. One very important thing we found when first experimenting with different quantities or ratios was that more is NOT better. On the majority of cars that we tested, the ratio that delivered the best return was between 1.5 to 3 ouces of pure acetone per 10 gallons of fuel, with most of them around 1.5.
wppdoes 1 year ago
its 3 oz per 10 gal, u put 6oz in 11 gallons. try just the acetone
evilsandwich2 1 year ago
I've used acetone several times. There is no increase in MPG's.
jstef928 1 year ago
I've used acetone several times. Dose NOT work.
jstef928 1 year ago
now read the posts backwards lol///
mingmingnak 1 year ago
Also the issue with acetone is not that it increases the amount of carbon, but it first adds oxygen to the gas which is crucial for the burning I.E it fixes the oxygen balance and since acetone is more volatile then the gasoline it helps to vaporize the gas and causes less of it to be wasted or passed on unburnt through the system. It has nothing to do with the carbon content or energy content of the acetone molecule.
mingmingnak 1 year ago
Yes, the energy comes from oxidizing the Carbons to CO2 in the gasoline but that is not all you also oxidize the hydrogen to water and that supplies energy. Diesel, does supply more energy because it has more carbons so it takes up more space, technically you really are not getting that much improvement you are just increasing the amount of carbon burnt....but in ratio it should be nearly the same.
mingmingnak 1 year ago
@mingmingnak more torque but lower hp on natural aspire engine
coolgames14 1 year ago
at the amounts of acetone being used in my experiments it was costing me approximately 35 cents per of acetone per tank of gas. Due to the recent addition of ethanol to gas the acetone to gasoline ratio will have to be increased to compensate. Do not let your minds be swayed by what people in power say, try things out for yourselves it really works well even amazingly!!!
mingmingnak 1 year ago
Do not buy into all of what the gas companies are saying, the recent addition of alcohol to the gas has lowered milages considerably as it has the opposite affect of the acetone, it demotes vaporization of the gasoline. They say they added it because of increased oxygen balance, acetone would also add oxygen to the fuel and has and octane rating of 150, while toluene (if i remember correctly but I could be wrong) has an octane rating of 115.
mingmingnak 1 year ago
present in the tank can save me a full two gallons per tank of gas that is say 5 dollars a tank possibly 500 or 700 dollars a year depending on your driving patterns. Also I found that the concurrent use of acetone and toluene can improve gas mileage in my 1999 nissan altima by 10 miles give or take per gallon. as in I was getting a good 43-45 miles per-gallon on a long trip when i was usually getting 30-32 miles per gallon.
mingmingnak 1 year ago
meaning that they wont dissolve in water and alcohol. Also it means that they may dissolve in organics but considering that gasoline itself is a very powerful organic solvent...the fact that acetone severely harms them must be exaggerated. In-fact I have done systematic tests with acetone previously, under relatively controlled conditions (as controlled as traveling the same 50mile path everyday can be) and found that acetone put in a small amount even 1/640 of the amount of gasoline
mingmingnak 1 year ago
first off do not trust the MPG reading on that thing that thing fluctuates by the angle of the road it almost seems, so! hello, I am a biochemist and I would like to explain that a lot of the destructive properties of the acetone as described is over-rated, acetone is a polar organic solvent,...I.E. it dissolves organic polar and inorganic polar substances(such as water) and non-polar alike. The thing is all the rubber and stuff in the car is make of essentially non-polar organic polymers
mingmingnak 1 year ago
no wonder it didnt work you only put in 1-2 ounces per 10 gallons.
fray1234jkl84032 2 years ago
No we have tried .5oz 1oz 2oz 3oz and it may work for a 1/2 tank to 1 tank full. After that the ECU that is set for 14.7-1 AFR. adjusts AFR back to 14.7-1
you would need to run in open loop to see MPG go up and stay up.
zerkoo 2 years ago
you used too much...3 aceton+3 xyline makes 6 ounces...do not add more than 3 ounce per 10 gallon...try half of that amount,you will see at least %20 saving...I do all the time...do not forget more additive reduce the savings,just use amount you need...max 3oz...no more....2oz per 10 gallons is best for my mercedes E350....i save %25....engine runs better too...plus %10 more bhp
suatsete 2 years ago
there are only two semi-scientific tests on the internet (and you don't claim that yours is scientific), and neither of them show major increases in gas mileage, but nonetheless this appears to be a very contraversial subject.
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opim101 2 years ago
that looks like nail polish remover which is NOT 100% acetone my friend...
wrxbungle 2 years ago 2
The bottle did say 100% acetone..... it didn't say nail polish remover. What was in the bottle in the video was 100% acetone and xylene mixed.
MileagePros 2 years ago
@MileagePros it can't be 100% acetone if its mixed with something..
cussbus 1 year ago
@MileagePros Holy-Terrorist:>*=* pure acetone and xylene mixed, in 50% acetone and 50% xylene mixed?
In mass quantity or volume quantity?
Agentoxedo07 8 months ago
@MileagePros that is obviously nail-polish remover.
skibblebiscuits 5 months ago
i haul acetone for a living and my supplier says his nail polish remover is 98.2 percent acetone
raker4u 2 years ago
I think ur suppose to add Acetone/Xylene into a homemade (1 gal) gasoline bubbler/vaporizer and send those vapors into intake via vacuum. Thats when you sould seen a big difference in mpg. I haven't tried this yet, but im planning to. Oxygen sensors should take care of the rest
pashka0843 2 years ago
yea well the test only works on cars that are huge gas guzzlers, its not going to work in a prius
keithbu 2 years ago
in a prius when the electric motor is engaged when under 25 it says your getting 99.9 mpg
i know how to get that good of gas in my truck though also...
while going down my hill from big bear, put it in neutral, turn off the engine :)
works... but stopping and slowing is hard due to no power brakes lol
2007tacoma 2 years ago
hey tacoma, i used to do that with my mustang going down the mountains in cumberland. Except i just took it out of gear to keep my steering and brakes, lol. nothing like coasting at 80mph @900rpm for a good couple miles.
joe735 2 years ago
ive been reading use 2 ounces for 10 gallons, or even 3
and how the fuck did his guage say he was getting 94.6 mpg at one point?
the only thing that even comes close to that is like a vespa, or my motorcycle and i dont think i even get that good
2007tacoma 2 years ago
coasting, my bmw says that all the time (its older).
erikksonb 2 years ago
he messe dup[ big h emixes to solution and he used too muh hes a retard
AmericansSexualPreds 2 years ago
acetone should be used at first 1 ounce for 10 gallons. the key here is the fuel used. the fuel has to be ethanol free!
hotty198 2 years ago
why would you choose a car that gets 40 miles per gallon. The reason why acetone works is because it helps a car waste less fuel by burning all of it getting the most out it. You should have chose a vehilce that gets 12 miles to the gallon and has 8 cyclinders and just guzzles gas. A car that you can smell the fuel being wasted out the tail pipe. Why has no one tested this on a truck or car like mine?
CPTMyers 3 years ago
I drive a 1994 Oldsmobile that guzzles gas, the last fill up I used Octane gas plus I added an ounce of acetone. So far the exhaust does not smell of gasoline so I am starting to see some benefit.
Topazman12 2 years ago
Success is higher if you lean out the electric signal going from the O2 sensor to the ECU, this can be done with a simple chip spliced into the line. The computer never detects a lean A/F ratio, and thus never adds more fuel to bring it back to spec.
An added bonus is there is no longer a need for a catalytic converter!
vettefan77 3 years ago
Leaning an engine out that way will give an increase in MPG but does NOT decrease all pollutants in the exhaust. Release of nitrogen oxides will go up during a lean burn condition.
When nitrogen oxides are mixed with VOC's and sunlight, you get smog, which is a known health hazard. It can also lead to the formation of acid rain under the right conditions.
MileagePros 3 years ago
That can be true in terms of generating more NO's per gallon. But did you factor in the amount of fuel will be needed. You will waste more fuel and thus generate more NO's even the percentage is lower. in addition to that, if you have a more fuel efficient car, you generate less heat and less CO's into the environment.
userkc2008 2 years ago
Damn shade tree mechanics!
isaacaaron81 2 years ago 3
@MileagePros Who cares about polutions your car is giving if you can save on gasoline? It will have so small damage if you do it that nobody will even notice.
Careica 1 year ago
@MileagePros and leaning a mixture heats up a motor, reduces reliability over time and is just a really dumb idea. if anyone wants to save gas take the crap out of your car, change the oil on time and tune it up at whatever interval is recomended
yasha32 5 months ago
@vettefan77 hey I removed my catalytic converter and I have noticed major drop in MPG! how can I fix this issue with this chip that youre talking about? can you show me a tutorial video or website where I can this chip from?
Persia4L1fe 11 months ago
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vettefan77 7 months ago
@Persia4L1fe
What youre looking for is called an EFIE. Google it, there are several companies who sell them.
vettefan77 7 months ago
I have an '86 Prelude Si thats been used as my fuel-saver guinea pig. 2.0L engine, auto trans, 260k miles on the motor.
before acetone: 27-28 mpg highway
after 3oz acetone/10gal gas: 32-33 mpg
with a good tail-wind i once got 36 mpg.
Acetone DOES work, but as many have said...there are several variables. It works by relieving the surface tension of gasoline, helping it to vaporize easier.
vettefan77 3 years ago
Here are the surface tensions of a few compounds found in gas-n-Hexane 18.43,n-Octane 21.62,Cyclohexane 24.95, o-Xylene 30.10. Ethanol is 22.10 which is lower than acetone which has a surface tension of 25.20 in mN/m.
These make up to 63% of the mixture. I dont believe adding less than 1/2% acetone will do anything but make the cost of a tank of gas go up.
I still believe people are changing their driving style because they want to see the increase that is supposed to be there.
MileagePros 3 years ago
@MileagePros - interesting stats. I know for sure my driving style hasnt changed, so if it isnt surface tension, maybe just an octane booster? shrugs...
as far as decreasing pollutants, im now running the system in conjunction with a Browns gas electrolyzer. Same crappy honda, now getting 42 mpg on the highway, and lower emissions than a Prius
vettefan77 6 months ago
@vettefan77 will definitely ruin your engine.
peak199 6 months ago
When I used acetone Xylene in my gas that didn't contain ethanol I saw a 2-3 MPG increase.
So far with ethanol no increase but any cars ECU is set for 14.7-1 AFR
When there is an increase in MPG more oxygen will flow by the O2 censor which will give a higher AFR. The ECU then will bring AFR back down to 14.7-1. Which will bring MPG back down.
zerkoo 3 years ago
relocateing your intake air temp sensor to a constant source of cold air(wheel well, basically anywhere you can get a constant temperature LOWER than the intake charge) this will enrichen your afr to possibly 12:1 at most. its best to invest in an air fuel controller and you can even retard advance yoru ignition timings for certain rpm, load etc the possibilites are endless
doomsnail84 3 years ago
I use 0.25 ounces of Acetone per gallon of premium gasoline and get 25-30% increase in MPG with my 1993 Toyota Previa. I can't get my roommate to do the math, but he swears he is getting a huge increase in MPG. He can swear all he wants and it will mean nothing without the math. My neighbor did the math and always adds Acetone now. My motorcycle went from about 43 MPG to 70 MPG. It is hard to believe, but I checked it over and over. I haven't tried Xylene yet.
davidchenard 3 years ago
Yes I agree. But never "give in." This has been the damise of every culture that has ever collapsed in history. Who knows. Maby the've been adding more to the fuel then being told. My mileage in my Merc used to be 23 in town. Now its only 20 - so something is going on.
HangingTree 3 years ago
Well theres alot of variables there. Does the fuel contain ethenol? If so acetone will do nothing. Thats a biggie. Also make sure that the timing is good. MAF?O2 cencors and all that. The website that started all this was lubedev - and the guy that puts out all the research owns a 95 Neon in which all the testing is done on. My Grand Marquis see's a 2 to 3mpg difference. And take note of what i said before. Do not use a scan gauge.
HangingTree 3 years ago
Im very familiar with Lou LaPointe and lubedev/brightgreen/smartgas. The car,a 2002 neon is in good shape. Timing is controlled by the ECM. Gas used did have just over 5% ethanol but has also been tested with straight gas. Can no longer find gas in this area w/o ethanol. I have tried this in my 2000 neon and 2006 kia with the same results using both the scangauge and miles driven/gallons used.
Oil companies are going to get your money one way or another whether it acetone for $16/gal or $4 gas
MileagePros 3 years ago
You need to use 3 to 4 ounces per ten gallons, not 12.5. Also make sure its pure of course. Also i wouldnt use a scangauge. Use the original tachometer method. Good luck
HangingTree 3 years ago
The acetone used was 100% pure from Sally Beauty Supply. We have tried from 1oz to 5oz and everywhere in between. Tried it alone and tried it with equal amounts of xylene and Torco GP7. The only way I can see that acetone would help improve mpg is if the injectors were dirty. Adding acetone would clean them up. If people really believe that acetone helps, (placebo effect?) by all means, use it. I really don't think adding that small amount to 10 gallons of gas is going to hurt anything.
MileagePros 3 years ago
It will degrade the seals and break down your oil much sooner. Any savings in gas will be offset by mechanical maintenance.
KIPKAY tried to sell this snake oil. It does nothing of any value.
Timerider 3 years ago
The amount of acetone used = .1875% of 12.5 gallons, a very small amount. Xylene is already a component of gas and will do no harm. I change oil between 8k-12k miles and have it analyzed by an independent lab. I used acetone/xylene for 9 months or about 20k miles. Ive never had any problems with the oil breaking down or seals leaking with 222,000 miles on engine. In the 9 months that I used it though, I never saw an increase in mpg and agree that acetone does nothing of value.
MileagePros 3 years ago
What was the point of adding xylene?
Btw, I'm using 3 ounces to 16 gallons of petrol on a 2003 Mercedes C280, and fuel economy went from about 19 MPG to 23, so for me, it does work.
Diemerstein 3 years ago
Xylene has been mentioned on other sites as a mpg booster when mixed with acetone. Some also add diesel fuel or 2 stroke oil too. A lot of gasolines sold today all ready contain up to 22% xylene but we used it any way to show 3 ozs would make no difference in mpg.
I haven't seen a car yet that gets better mpg from using acetone. What I do see is people changing their driving habits because they want to see that increase that acetone is supposed to give.
MileagePros 3 years ago