I think it's unacceptable that the marriage clerk didn't demand to see proof of love between those two men. Such otherwise private matters should be the business of my mommy government (I'm a social conservative, which means I'm for limited government, except when it comes to pretty much anything). Mama state should know precisely why I want to marry someone, what genitalia my marriage partner will have, and what I will do with my spouse in bed once we are married. That's not communist, is it?
This video makes the curious case that no marriage should not have civil benefits associated with it, lest people engage in fraudulent behavior to get the benefits.
yep marriage according to the bible was very creative. Check out Betty Bowers here on youtube. She talks fast i had to watch it several times. to take it all in.
It is a crime to record any conversation, whether oral or wire, without the consent of all parties in Massachusetts. The penalty for violating the law is a fine of up to $10,000 and a jail sentence of up to five years. Mass. Ann. Laws ch. 272 , § 99.
To issue a marriage license a state typically requires that the parties be of legal age, that they not be related to each other within a certain degree of consanguinity, and that there be no existing impediment to the marriage, i.e. that they not already be married to someone else. Do you really want the government to decide whether you are really and truly "in love" in order to allow you get married?!
Next up: Purity Test to be conducted in all marriage license offices, so we can vet that all people marrying each other are truly, really in love? Yikes.
I'm interested to see how you'd asses love. Does he buy you flowers on your birthday, chocolate on Valentine's, take you out to your favourite restaurant... Or would you try the emotional route? How would you describe your love, what would you do for him, etc?
Please publish the list ASAP. Inquiring minds want to know.
They shot and published this to show what good employees these people are, which is to say that it would have been a violation of the laws of their state to refuse to let these guys marry. It's especially reassuring, after the other videos made by O'Keefe, to see that he's willing to speak out in defense of government employees.
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Its amazing, (not surprising) how homosexuals on this post can't see any points made here. It shows how liberal/communist mentality has destroyed the institute of marriage. "It's just a piece of paper right?" NO!!! It shows the now common and accepted "FRAUD" and "CORRUPTION" in government as well as the disrespect for any ethical mores in government duties. We said, next they'll want to marry their dog or horse, you all laughed, interesting how many of these homosexual posts confirm that fact!
You think marriages for insurance purposes didn't occur before same-sex marriages? And "liberal/communist"? What a joke you and your beliefs are if you find SSM to be equitable to ANY ideology. The fact that you see a point in this video shows that you're nothing but an ideologue and a demagogue. Nevermind that equate two HUMANS marrying eachother to marrying a horse, which is a ridiculous notion. That isn't sanctioned in ANY country with SSM.
Mary was apparently married to Joseph when "God" impregnated her.
Marriage as an institution is also a joke, it never was, check your history - women where traded to their potential husbands in exchange for power and goods by their fathers, even in medieval times royal marriages where more about sealing pacts between countries then love or a biblical covenant.
Would love to know what your argument is here. Only gay people should be allowed to be in gay marriages? As many people have pointed out, you could have just as easily been a guy and a girl marrying for insurance purposes. You haven't responded to all the people who have written that. Is it because you have no response? Maybe you really didn't realize how weak and pathetic your argument is. Wanna try again?
LOL it does matter if its a straight OR a gay marriage, it doesnt matter! cus a straight couple could both be gay and have sex with other gays, its the EXACT same concept! these 2 guys are just fucking idiots and are not making much of a point cus it probably happens more vica versa! FOOLS! I, as a gay guy, could get married to a lesbian! we would then sleep with the same sex! SAME FUCKING THING!
i agree - WHAT'S THE NAME OF THAT SONG? nobody really cares if people do wrong and others make it okay. <----- sarcasm, fyi. we only care about the music.
What is the point of this video? That couples trying to get married be required to provide a valid reason for getting married that is satisfactory to the state? That gay couples be required to prove that they're gay before getting married? That they required to prove that they're in love before getting married?
I'm completely gay. Married my best girlfriend for a multitude of reasons. We live in different houses. We have sex with other people. We see each other once a week. BEST MARRIAGE EVER! We totally cheated the system, not only because it was easy and helps us out, but I'm obviously not gonna get married legally anytime soon. The best part? No body questions when a skinny white dude goes in with a five hundred lb. black girl. And you judge me? Fuck you.
Not sure what the point of the video is. Are you trying to make sure we ban gay divorce? Why shouldn't two men or two women be able to marry for benefits, they same way 2 sex marriages have been doing throughout USA history.
After being impressed with your Acorn posting, I decided to check out your other videos. This argument is pretty weak as a gay man can get married to a strait women solely for benefits. Seriously, those against gay marriage should stop all of these rationalizations and admit they hate gay people.
This wasn't meant to be an indictment of gay unions per se so much as the system that makes those unions -gay or straight. I think they chose the queer angle because it does sound like the kind of bad idea two guys might think up over beers one night. Secondly, PC professional bureaucrats aren't likely to confront a "gay" couple as it could backfire: "Gay Couple Refused Marriage in Mass." The media thrives on sensationalistic fodder like that
Great work, but I think this brings up an important question: How many times has James been married?
Does he have to count this experience when some girl asks, "So, have you ever been married?" James says, "Yes... to the same man... 3 different times." LOL
@ceh333 true, my wife and i knew of straight marriages for convenience(primarily for housing benefits) when we were in the military and that was in the early 80's
government shouldn't even have anything to do with marriage, it should be privatized and let the people define their own terms.
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MsJonajack 1 year ago
I think it's unacceptable that the marriage clerk didn't demand to see proof of love between those two men. Such otherwise private matters should be the business of my mommy government (I'm a social conservative, which means I'm for limited government, except when it comes to pretty much anything). Mama state should know precisely why I want to marry someone, what genitalia my marriage partner will have, and what I will do with my spouse in bed once we are married. That's not communist, is it?
mshedoa 1 year ago 2
So I guess you guys finally have an excuse to consummate your relationship.
antiotter 1 year ago
wasnt this a movie?
ilovetheview47 1 year ago 2
I'm shocked to learn that two people don't need to love each other to enter into a legally binding contract.
ImitationOfChris 1 year ago 3
@ImitationOfChris who cares! it's a practical joke.
On top that, marriage itself a joke these days....we already have sky-rocketing divorce rates and many children born out of wed-locks anyways.....
GraysonDean1990 5 months ago
This video makes the curious case that no marriage should not have civil benefits associated with it, lest people engage in fraudulent behavior to get the benefits.
Criminalize marriage!
obietom 1 year ago
this is classic
garand 1 year ago
yep marriage according to the bible was very creative. Check out Betty Bowers here on youtube. She talks fast i had to watch it several times. to take it all in.
GpressNPS 1 year ago
So are these two married?
Gwyka 2 years ago
I love it ... "What IF????"
Men and women never marry each other just for insurance benefits.
What a couple of dopes.
zuzukachoo 2 years ago 2
this video only proves what complete and utter douchebags these guys are.
dE3L 2 years ago 2
@canigraduate Yes, I think the people who made this film would prefer that the government officials be more intrusive, as opposed to being neutral.
tlj362 2 years ago 2
What exactly does this prove? A Gay man & and Lesbian Woman can have a sham marriage to get benifits from one or the other.
How many Republican gay men have a similar Marriage of convenience (Larry Craig)?
xdir 2 years ago 4
Marriage fraud is a crime - no matter who does it., straight, gay or Republican
Wiretapping a public employee is also a crime - no matter who does it, straight, gay or Republican.
And there is no legal requirement that you be "in love" to get married - straights who don't love each other get married all the time.
Propaganda - FAIL
And, on the real side, since these guys ARE Republicans - this might not be as much of a "fake gay marriage" as they'd like to claim!
GREGORYABUTLER 2 years ago 3
@GREGORYABUTLER Marriage fraud is a crime?
Why? I would interested in seeing this law.
sirfith 2 years ago
If you marry somebody to facilitate fraud, then it is a crime.
GREGORYABUTLER 2 years ago
There are laws against marriage fraud for the purpose of evading immigration laws.
Gwyka 2 years ago
It is a crime to record any conversation, whether oral or wire, without the consent of all parties in Massachusetts. The penalty for violating the law is a fine of up to $10,000 and a jail sentence of up to five years. Mass. Ann. Laws ch. 272 , § 99.
octratek772 2 years ago 6
@octratek772 Massachusetts is so screwed up that incluces filming public servants (police) conduct on a public street.
google "Boston Lawyer Sues Police, City Over His Arrest for Recording an Arrest"
sirfith 2 years ago
boooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
jkerry 2 years ago
This video is completely pointless.
To issue a marriage license a state typically requires that the parties be of legal age, that they not be related to each other within a certain degree of consanguinity, and that there be no existing impediment to the marriage, i.e. that they not already be married to someone else. Do you really want the government to decide whether you are really and truly "in love" in order to allow you get married?!
Talk about Big Brother.
canigraduate 2 years ago 6
Yeah right... these guys "aren't gay" PLEASE. They are as gay as it gets.
clintatl 2 years ago 2
Next up: Purity Test to be conducted in all marriage license offices, so we can vet that all people marrying each other are truly, really in love? Yikes.
I'm interested to see how you'd asses love. Does he buy you flowers on your birthday, chocolate on Valentine's, take you out to your favourite restaurant... Or would you try the emotional route? How would you describe your love, what would you do for him, etc?
Please publish the list ASAP. Inquiring minds want to know.
limberbimbo 2 years ago 4
This is a feel-good video!
They shot and published this to show what good employees these people are, which is to say that it would have been a violation of the laws of their state to refuse to let these guys marry. It's especially reassuring, after the other videos made by O'Keefe, to see that he's willing to speak out in defense of government employees.
badmuthahubbard 2 years ago 2
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Its amazing, (not surprising) how homosexuals on this post can't see any points made here. It shows how liberal/communist mentality has destroyed the institute of marriage. "It's just a piece of paper right?" NO!!! It shows the now common and accepted "FRAUD" and "CORRUPTION" in government as well as the disrespect for any ethical mores in government duties. We said, next they'll want to marry their dog or horse, you all laughed, interesting how many of these homosexual posts confirm that fact!
YOURpervertexposer 2 years ago
You think marriages for insurance purposes didn't occur before same-sex marriages? And "liberal/communist"? What a joke you and your beliefs are if you find SSM to be equitable to ANY ideology. The fact that you see a point in this video shows that you're nothing but an ideologue and a demagogue. Nevermind that equate two HUMANS marrying eachother to marrying a horse, which is a ridiculous notion. That isn't sanctioned in ANY country with SSM.
Eastmanarium 2 years ago 4
Marriage don't mean shit, even in biblical times.
Mary was apparently married to Joseph when "God" impregnated her.
Marriage as an institution is also a joke, it never was, check your history - women where traded to their potential husbands in exchange for power and goods by their fathers, even in medieval times royal marriages where more about sealing pacts between countries then love or a biblical covenant.
xdir 2 years ago 2
Would love to know what your argument is here. Only gay people should be allowed to be in gay marriages? As many people have pointed out, you could have just as easily been a guy and a girl marrying for insurance purposes. You haven't responded to all the people who have written that. Is it because you have no response? Maybe you really didn't realize how weak and pathetic your argument is. Wanna try again?
eddiesocket 2 years ago 6
LOL it does matter if its a straight OR a gay marriage, it doesnt matter! cus a straight couple could both be gay and have sex with other gays, its the EXACT same concept! these 2 guys are just fucking idiots and are not making much of a point cus it probably happens more vica versa! FOOLS! I, as a gay guy, could get married to a lesbian! we would then sleep with the same sex! SAME FUCKING THING!
sadguyfoundout1 2 years ago
Uhh ok.
This seems kinda dumb.
First, are the makers trying to say that gay married couples dont' really love each other?
Second, there is no law that prohibits people from marrying for stupid reasons.
Otherwise Las Vegas would be putting thousands in jail every year.
The only law that might apply is bigamy and the clerk already mentioned that the men would have to divorce before re-marrying some one else.
booley 2 years ago 12
can't a straight couple get married for reasons other than love just as easily as a same-sex couple?
zaynzaynzayn 2 years ago 6
white town, your woman
mindnumber9 2 years ago
i agree - WHAT'S THE NAME OF THAT SONG? nobody really cares if people do wrong and others make it okay. <----- sarcasm, fyi. we only care about the music.
mindnumber9 2 years ago
What is the point of this video? That couples trying to get married be required to provide a valid reason for getting married that is satisfactory to the state? That gay couples be required to prove that they're gay before getting married? That they required to prove that they're in love before getting married?
I just don't get what you're trying to say.
ncolgan 2 years ago
This isn't an argument against gay marriage because a man and woman too could marry for insurance purposes.
iamonlinew 2 years ago
do you get maternity leave too?
udderlybutter1 2 years ago
I'm completely gay. Married my best girlfriend for a multitude of reasons. We live in different houses. We have sex with other people. We see each other once a week. BEST MARRIAGE EVER! We totally cheated the system, not only because it was easy and helps us out, but I'm obviously not gonna get married legally anytime soon. The best part? No body questions when a skinny white dude goes in with a five hundred lb. black girl. And you judge me? Fuck you.
biokeg 2 years ago
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camellian150 2 years ago
This country is screwed up/ fucked-UP/FINISHED.
crazycar900 2 years ago
-as long as the city gets its money!
akui88 2 years ago
I think this does prove how silly it is that government defines marriage. Government should completely get its nose out of the marriage business.
rjcluvvt 2 years ago 19
Not sure what the point of the video is. Are you trying to make sure we ban gay divorce? Why shouldn't two men or two women be able to marry for benefits, they same way 2 sex marriages have been doing throughout USA history.
microzenberg 2 years ago 3
After being impressed with your Acorn posting, I decided to check out your other videos. This argument is pretty weak as a gay man can get married to a strait women solely for benefits. Seriously, those against gay marriage should stop all of these rationalizations and admit they hate gay people.
RoverFover 2 years ago
This wasn't meant to be an indictment of gay unions per se so much as the system that makes those unions -gay or straight. I think they chose the queer angle because it does sound like the kind of bad idea two guys might think up over beers one night. Secondly, PC professional bureaucrats aren't likely to confront a "gay" couple as it could backfire: "Gay Couple Refused Marriage in Mass." The media thrives on sensationalistic fodder like that
Read about the "waterboarding" teachers yet?
TheSweetwaterJones 2 years ago
hahahah you guys are now married!!
lees20022 2 years ago
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Wow that is gay if you clowns really did this your Fags
stables2012 2 years ago
You guys are idiots. I can marry a random woman to cheat the system, would that make it better?
haitgb 2 years ago 3
What's the SONG used in the video? Please! someone let me KNOW!
Parad0xDJ 2 years ago
White Town - Your Woman
watch?v=cIQWt3oMids
What do I win?
OhBigBrother 2 years ago
You win kind Sir... You Win
Parad0xDJ 2 years ago
Cant this be done with a male/female marriage just as easy if not easier? Don't see the point with this...
bryphi77 2 years ago
Great work, but I think this brings up an important question: How many times has James been married?
Does he have to count this experience when some girl asks, "So, have you ever been married?" James says, "Yes... to the same man... 3 different times." LOL
Good luck dating!
RayZorbackWPS 2 years ago
This is exactly why this law needs to be abolished!
nancy27c 2 years ago
u dipshits do realize this has nothing to do w/ GAY marriage right?? fucking angry nerd patrol.
djcripsalot 2 years ago 3
Does this mean you'll have to divorce 3 times? Is it even legal to have more than one marriage license?
theYoungerMrsWarde 2 years ago
"You're not married..." YOU'RE. C'mon, guys.
Actually, I think this is a better commentary on divorce law than gay marriage. It's funny, either way, though. :)
Thorien175 2 years ago
lol
jameskchou 2 years ago
and straight people don't do this?
ceh333 3 years ago 5
@ceh333 true, my wife and i knew of straight marriages for convenience(primarily for housing benefits) when we were in the military and that was in the early 80's
FriendlyGeekClassics 10 months ago