How to Get the Elderly to Vote Socialist

[MrQuaker62]

I was a member of the JBS in 1992...now I'm a socialist (spusa)...in 1992 I voted for Howard Phillips this year I'm for Stewart Alexander of the SPUSA....anybody can change. There is hope for you as well. Peace

[Budvb]

They fighting Islam cause it's the 5th Seal open... Doh,, after the 5th comes the 6th hope you all ready for that one.

[xxNephlimxx]

The Federal reserve is evil and it is the problem.

Our government printed money and everything was fine until we allowed a privatized bank.

The American dream its a cartoon watch it. also great video.

[dezldummi]

I certainly JBS would bring back the online community section of their web site

[renatonigro]

Well, i disagree. Arabs see Capitalism in other way, they fit the capitalist system to the Islam religion. Unfortunately, we from the west have some difficulties to understand this kind of modified capitalism because of our christian oriented society

[Budvb]

20 A faithful man will be richly blessed. But anyone who wants to get rich will be punished. 21 Favoring one person over another is not good. But some men will do wrong for a piece of bread. 22 A man who won't share what he has wants to get rich. He doesn't know he is going to be poor.

Does anyone disagree with this Wisdom from a Wise King from a couple thousand Years ago?

[Allanlegacy43]

@Budvb Du onto others as you would have them do unto you!

I like this better and the man who said it!

[Budvb]

@Allanlegacy43 27 “But to you who are listening I say: Love your enemies, do good to those who hate you, 28 bless those who curse you, pray for those who mistreat you. 29 If someone slaps you on one cheek, turn to them the other also. If someone takes your coat, do not withhold your shirt from them. 30 Give to everyone who asks you, and if anyone takes what belongs to you, do not demand it back. 31 Do to others as you would have them do to you.

This Same guy?

[Budvb]

@Budvb funny thing is that same guy was considered a nut, a drunk, and many other things by his people and government in that time. Ironic? Prince of Peace is back yet we all do the same to him. Makes Laugh with sorrow.

[aardvark1956]

I have an ill 75 yr old friend who MUST work (low wage, part time positions). He & his wife are selling off their MODEST possessions to make ends meet. 

[Budvb]

@aardvark1956 Yes it's a Race to the Bottom because Money is our Goal over a Better way of Life. So when we throw out one for the Other what do we Get? Man I been working for a few Factories the past few weeks and seen Safety take a back seat to increase the Money Profit, in time what will this Create within our Society in America. I bet it creates a Large number of Disabled Youth and a High number of Deaths among the Youth that won't be their when I become unable to work due 2 age

[Budvb]

If a moral People want to be Marxist why can't they be? Are we Jealous they want a better of Life and feel Marxism might help them do this. By Liberty we should Let them Be, they may just create the Best thing ever seen on this Planet, so who are we to Judge other Nations and what they choose, for we maybe condemning God and his wants. Time will Judge, not us.

Why do we live in Fear Let those People choose their Path and Let God decide and Teach them.

[killerbee2k]

@Budvb You are a pathetic false prophet, you quote the bible but you are not Godfearing, you speak of commandments but twist their meaning to your own selfish advantage. Marxism and communists are vicious wolves who will strip the mankind of its property and make slaves of all as they have done in Russia, China, Cambodia and all the other places. I will always say beware the false prophets of collectivism for it is elitism in sheep clothing.

[Budvb]

@killerbee2k are you sure of that? Mark Chapter 10:21-25 21Jesus looked at him and loved him. "One thing you lack," he said. "Go, sell everything you have and give to the poor, and you will have treasure in heaven. Then come, follow me.” 22At this the man's face fell. He went away sad, because he had great wealth. 23Jesus looked around and said to his disciples, "How hard it is for the rich to enter the kingdom of God!”

[Budvb]

@Budvb 24The disciples were amazed at his words. But Jesus said again, "Children, how hard it is to enter the kingdom of God! 25It is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for a rich man to enter the kingdom of God."

To become Rich one has to make Many poor this is why Jesus said it's harder for a Rich man to enter the Kingdom then a Poor Individual. For if the Rich man would of shared it all, both men or individuals would of had the same status both would be equal

[TracyII77]

@Budvb Notice how Jesus did not send his disciples to steal the wealth of the rich man to give to the poor? If God himself does not force others to be charitable, who are you or I?

[Budvb]

@TracyII77 Freewill right? Was given to us in the Garden with do not eat that apple. Temptation was thrown in and yeah here we are today. I don't believe in Force so yes the Government forcing others to be good won't happen know that, this why i'm not saying Marxism is the path. Heck I support Ron Paul the man who wants to bring Peace to the world again, well at least try.

[killerbee2k]

@Budvb I see you collectivists distort this great verse many times on the internet and in real life. If you actually READ THE BIBLE this verse is about a man loving material wealth over spiritual purity and faith and its for this reason Jesus says this to him. Its not because he is rich, but because for this man money is God, but there can be only one God and Jesus is the way to him. You are pathetic sir.

[Budvb]

@killerbee2k Pathetic? Glad we could discuss this without demeaning each other. Enjoy the wide path.

[killerbee2k]

@Budvb You use the bible to advocate tyranny and genocide which marxism and more specifically collectivism is written in. Marxism embraces evolution and materialism. You think materialism is just about mass consumption? There were Materialists in ancient greece! Its the belief that the universe is chaotic and the result of random interactions of atoms. You are not a man created by God, marxism preaches that man just a collection of atoms worth nothing more than dirt. Please read marxism

[Budvb]

@killerbee2k If i prove to you that science is nothing more then another explanation of God. Would you see science differently? Say Adam out loud, then say Atom out loud, and tell me they sound different. Adam was in the Garden before Eve. Ironic, I don't believe in Ironic or Luck everything happens for a reason beyond our understanding.

Dunno can call me a Nut like Jesus was called or open your mind and explore the Rabbit hole i show you and connect the dots to everything here.

[Thesortvokter]

@Budvb I'm an open mind, and I also believe there's a reason for everything. Do you know what I believe? I believe Jesus is Satans little helper. Do you know why? Well, for starters, 40,000 witches were burnt alive, offered to the bloodgod Jahve (Satan) without JesusFuck doing fuck all to help them. And christians? Fucking devilworshippers.

Is your mind REALLY open, or are you just a half-blind slave?

[Budvb]

@Thesortvokter well hmm... they do come from the same source, both made by God that Energy that has created all from the beginning to the end. Are you Ready for the End? For me it will begin something a new, as it always has been since the beginning. Jesus don't scare you or does religion, but yourself.

7And it was given unto him to make war with the saints, and to overcome them: and power was given him over all kindreds, and tongues, and nations.

[Thesortvokter]

@Budvb Didn't you hear me? FUCK your Jesus!

Matthew 10:34-37 Do not suppose that I have come to bring peace to the earth. I did not come to bring peace, but a sword. For I have come to turn a man against his father, a daughter against her mother, a daughter-in-law against her mother-in-law

a man’s enemies will be the members of his own household.Anyone who loves their father or mother more than me is not worthy of me; anyone who loves their son or daughter more than me is not worthy of me

[Budvb]

@Thesortvokter yes the 2nd coming is about peace anymore but to punish those who love the worldly things over Life itself. Jesus 1st coming was to give life for all and forgive us and to guide us. 2nd coming is to rid the world of those who only love themselves and the things around themselves more then the one who gave us everything even Life. Welcome to the world we live in today. People love Wealth more then Life and all things that our religion has taught us.

[Budvb]

@Thesortvokter 3 “Blessed are the poor in spirit for theirs is the kingdom of heaven.

4 Blessed are those who mourn, for they will be comforted.

5 Blessed are the meek,for they will inherit the earth.

6 Blessed are those who hunger and thirst for righteousness, for they will be filled.

7 Blessed are the merciful for they will be shown mercy.

8 Blessed are the pure in heart, for they will see God.

9 Blessed are the peacemakers,for they will be called children of God.

[Budvb]

@Budvb 10 Blessed are those who are persecuted because of righteousness, for theirs is the kingdom of heaven. 11 “Blessed are you when people insult you, persecute you and falsely say all kinds of evil against you because of me.

[Thesortvokter]

@Budvb Uhh...hmmm...you're nothing but a fucking worthless slave of the devil to me, man. Licking the enemy of man right up the ass. You know Jahve is a big-time child killer, don't you? How many children do you suppose died when that evil fucker flooded the world?

Anyway...FUCK YOU and YOUR "GOD"!!!

[Budvb]

@Thesortvokter everything is working as planned, no one can stop the process that has already begun.

[Budvb]

@Thesortvokter Maybe this will help you sooth the pain within your mind and heart. Find your heart and you will see the world around you and your mind will begin to open. God bless

enjoy watch?v=TLjrD-oXkhA

[Budvb]

@Thesortvokter Tool:Forty-Six & 2 My shadow. Change is coming through my shadow. My shadow's shedding skin I've been picking My scabs again. I've been crawling on my belly Clearing out what could've been. I've been wallowing in my own chaotic And insecure delusions. I choose to live and to Grow, take and give and to Move, learn and love and to Cry, kill and die and to Be paranoid and to Lie, hate and fear and to Do what it takes to move through. Step Through with me! enjoy!

[Thesortvokter]

@Budvb I think you're a fucking satanist or a fucking christian devilworshipper.

[killerbee2k]

@Budvb Yes I have a lot to learn from the Bible, and even though I should not get angry, the fact that you twist the bible proverbs trying to justify a horrible/genocidal and failed economic and social theory which utterly reject and hates the bible is just disgusting and makes me sick. And there are not "many meanings", you have to put it into context and follow the Bible logically. I dont know what specific type of christian you are but you are certainly not protestant.

[Budvb]

@killerbee2k I forgive you, but we also have to remember capitalism, and socialism is man made. The only Truth left is our religion, and I think it has been distorted by man for man's doings. We all should read our own bibles and come up with our own conclusions by our life's experiences. I can't say i'm right, or wrong, that is for God to decide it's up to us all to figure that out together. All I know Jesus wasn't liked by a lot in Power for perceiving God, with Love for all.

[Budvb]

@killerbee2k found better. James 2 & Matthew 25:31-46

12And Jesus went into the temple of God, and cast out all them that sold and bought in the temple, and overthrew the tables of the moneychangers

What a good capitalist

[killerbee2k]

@Budvb Its also important to note that you totally distort the entire context of the bible and contemporary society. The "moneychangers" and the "rich" of the time of the bible were not free market fatcats who made their money through hard work or investement but by force taxation of the nobility and corrupt priests which if you were to translate into modern times would be politicians. So if you actually follow Jesus logically then Jesus is preaching against the greed of politicians.

[dezldummi]

@Budvb in a free society they would be able to live as they wanted.... ever heard of a commune? Kibbutz?  there are too many examples to list, and too many who "concerned government agencies" have eliminated by using the very Marxist utopia ideology you seem to be in love with

[Budvb]

@dezldummi actually I don't love Marxist or Marxism, I love the World and Humanity. If Love is evil then I'm in the Wrong world again.

[killerbee2k]

to take one example from norway, 10 years ago a soda can cost 9kr, and it has risen 78% to the present state but my salary has only risen 15%, yet the government claims that salaries have risen above consumption inflation. And the same is true for my friends in other occupations. Yet people dont remember the past so they just believe the government.

[Budvb]

@killerbee2k I agree a lot are being exploited, to increase the bottom Line. If the bottom line is more important then Life, then the Race to the bottom of the barrel is the goal. This means those with their lavish life styles are in this barrel too and in time it will catch up to the rest of us.

This why Quantity, over Quality, will make everyone who lives on this planet will become a low quality of Life, because we the Majority have created this by our shopping belief and wants.

[TracyII77]

@Budvb What is the bottom line? It is ultimately the price a consumer is willing to pay. And who are the consumers? Are they not you and I? Are they not both the rich AND the poor? So what does it profit the poor to pay higher prices?

[killerbee2k]

@TracyII77 All these verses has nothing to do with capitalism. Besides even marxists are capitalists since they seek to control 100% of the capital, and capital is not just monetary currencies you fool. What all these verses are about however is first be true to the covenants of God before material greed. This has nothing to do with free enterprise, as you will see the bible clearly defines property rights belonging to individual families, and not some political elite.

[Budvb]

@TracyII77 Bottom Line: (Business / Commerce) the last line of a financial statement that shows the net profit or loss of a company or organization.

[Budvb]

@TracyII77 But those who want higher wages or pay needs to raise prices, and it's up to us consumers willing to pay for it. Sad thing this is more complex with printed money. Their is so many variables.

“It is not the employer who pays the wages. Employers only handle the money. It is the customer who pays the wages.” Henry Ford quote