Fineman: Campaigns Think Clinton Can't Win w/ Pledged Dels

[sexiigirl195]

I?m in these apartment wondering when some hot buddy is gonna make my dreams come true.

[MichaelAJonesJr]

Who's "Barollco Bama?"

[ninunaia]

Geo. W Bush stole the office of President in 2000. Gore won the popular vote, but a Bush-appointed Supreme Court "legally" gave the job to Bush. Now Hillary wants to use back room deals with super delegates to steal the Democratic nomination away from Obama, who will win the popular vote in the primaries.

That's how elections are run in communist dictatorships. Your ballots don't count, the election is just for show.

WAKE UP AMERICA. THE BUSHES AND THE CLINTONS ARE CROOKS.

OBAMA in 08 !!!

[Akin42]

Too bad for her that she's 157 pledged delegates behind. The Supers need to end this already.

[garyowen4ever]

i have zero love for talking shitheads,BUT howard fineman RULES, buchanan is good for phony populist noises, mathews and keith are comic moron relief, the mclaughlin groupees are best since the old jesuit pokes em in the ass with a electric stick. lou dobbs is border line NBD. the women are the worst,,,vapid 60's down the line liberals, still burning their bras in the student union, and the neo con princelings can all get prostate gahzoobies yesterday. FYI im a militant populist.

[A19Z89]

Yah, right. The same crap with Bush/Gore, Bush/Kerry. The system is broken.

That should not be that obvious just for the fact that Hillary is running.

[Christoffeltje]

OBAMA '08 !!!

[LEXTR0N]

I listen two both sides of the party and then i vote who ever i like. I think John McCain is going to win. He has more support then Cliton and obaba put togather, i think well im voting for McCain.

[danhegelund]

Lets make sure Obama wins by at least 200 delegates!

[Danielspamjam]

moofph:

it takes the collective reality that one woman and one powerful candidacy is playing games with the little man and his vote. this is a real threat to your so-called "let(ting) YOU decide," isn't it?

[jarion05]

if YObama wins. Will all the racists in America be killed?? hahaha.

[moofph]

...to "avoid" a brokered convention is to deny the people their voice. why do you allow the media to control you?

why do you allow the this channel in media to "predict" news and policy rather than let YOU decide THEN report?

...it does not take a corporation to report facts. it takes one person...you can do it here (as many have) on youtube for free.

...it takes a corporation to CONTROL FACTS!

[labar1000]

America, when you vote. Vote not on color of skin, nor sex of person. Nor even Rep. or Dem. Just vote for whom you feel will help our Country. Maybe if we vote for people and not parties we would be better off.

[Galvatron7]

you should vote for ideas. Ideas that work! Not for conservatism or liberalism and all that devisive talk. Vote for what actually works an what you have seen to work. Bush didnt work ,mccain is another bush ,just without the christian right wing on his dick. So you dont wanna vote that

[berig1]

If the superdelegates are to vote exactly as the states primary voters, then what are the SD's role? The Superdelegates system came after president Carters nomination, a candidate that was not the first pick of the DNC and they wanted some influence in the nomination process.

I just hope Obama will not be a new Carter. A man with great hopes and dreams, but Carter became a one-term president with a very small , and not lasting, impact on the political scene.

[johnkerry7]

Carter, Reagan, Bush, look what happens when we elect talkers with no substance.

[Galvatron7]

since when was Geaorge duoble W a talker?

[glory789]

If Superdelegates gives Hillary the nomination, the Democratic Party just might as well disappear. McCain would win in a landslide because no Obama supporter would support Hillary Clinton after that crap.

[sandwichx]

i like obama but msnbc has a big hate on for the Clintons. check out the msnbc youtubes with obama in it! they are all racists

[freedomsadvocate07]

Obama, Clinton, Mccain and Huckabee Exposed:

watch?v=UNdHd3TXruc

[givebirthathome]

Even with Obama POTUS, we need to be activists to transform government positively.

Sponsoring terrorists is not an "exception" in American elite behavior but one of the major forces on this planet for misery and environmental devastation. Carter, Dem, started the mujaheddin. See also John Pilger Indonesia, or former CIA agent John Stockwell. We have to face the worst of what we do, if there is going to be real change. Obama- private prep school,Harvard,CFR -- he's not an "outsider".

[Mernie9]

Actually, that makes a lot of sense ...

[givebirthathome]

Plus, the Clinton's record is actually atrocious, only Bush could make it look good-check the history on Rwanda, East Timor, Haiti, the sanctions in Iraq, etc.

Obama's *advisors*, like Zbigniew Brzezinski, have more experience than Clinton, and that's what counts. Zb's geopolitics aren't angelic, but better than Clinton's.

[westphalianprinz]

I agree with you Brzezinski is far better than all of these pro-Iraq war advisors that Clinton has. Brzezinski was, at least, against the war in Iraq.

[Galvatron7]

lo lso what has bush doen in darfour? pakistan, Iraq ,etc. Clinton fixed north ireland ,fixed the balkan. And he didnt even have too. He also almost fixed the middleeast. and he fucking FIX a damn large part of the US. Bush jsut fucked up anything he touched ,like his daddy and reagan

[freedomsadvocate07]

watch?v=UNdHd3TXruc

[Riauw]

Here's how the power of the media can come in handy if you don't want a Clinton administration.

[flyingbird0214]

At this point, no matter who wins the nomination, the Democrats are screwed. This hate between these two sides go beyond rationality. Obama people will not vote for Hillary and Hillary people will not vote for Obama. Even if they have one nominee, they are going into the election split in two. If they don't listen to Howard Dean and solve this problem soon, President McCain will be extending active duty assignments for another 100 years by this time next year.

[wiskawind]

I went to caucus for Obama in my State Washington; we talked 4 Hillary supporters to switch at our table. That is what a caucus is all about. (smile)

[flyingbird0214]

And based on four people you think you can get all of Hillary supporters, right? If you don't get 100% of them, there is no chance for the Democrats to win. As you saw in 2004, with fraud or without it, Bush won the popular vote, the electoral vote, and most states. Old people, evangelical Christians, and union workers vote. College kids, educated voters, Blacks, Hispanics, and poor people don't usually vote. Those are Obama supporters (not Hispanics). He needs everyone, if not he's doomed.

[givebirthathome]

Good-going, wiskawind.

The Democrats can certainly win, they've voted in record numbers this year, with about double the increase of the Republicans.

Additionally, many Republicans have decided to vote Democratic this year because of the war.

Of the remaining, a substantial number of Republicans *will* not vote McCain. Paul's supporters have ranged from 5-25%, many will refuse to back McCain. Also, many evangelicals will either vote Obama if they have a chance, or they won't vote at all.

[flyingbird0214]

Keep your smile, because you will need it to go through another twelve years of Republican rule. By the way, I'm not American and don't live in your country, but still care because you guys are going to cause a global financial and economic crisis if you don't tighten your belts.

[vigilance77]

flyingbird, I hope what you say won't happen. I think no matter what, we're going to get a Democrat in office next year; and if we don't? I'm moving to Canada...I can't stand another war mongering president!!

[KevinJH02]

MSNBC is pro Obama so they will do or say anything to make him look good! when this is all done Hillary Clinton will be the nominee..dont underestimate her or her team... but if obama wins the nom which he will not.. the gop attack machine will rip him apart worst than John Kerry.. on National Security and inexperience

[moejardines]

MSNBC is pretty Pro-Bama, but the "inexperience" knife cuts both ways. The rest of the candidates have experience in blowing it, being sleazy politicians, running up the natioal debt (some $9 trillion), and getting us into needless conflicts. Obama's not dirty . . . yet. That alone might be enough. I think the fact Hillary's got instant name recognition with 30 years in the public eye yet can't walk away with this proves my point. In a general, Hillary is a liability to the party.

[givebirthathome]

It seems John McCain's war record is not so great--several crashed planes, dubbed "songbird" by the other POWs for collaborating with his captors, screwed the POW-MIA movement...

Obama can win.

[cincinnatusnow]

Vote- not Hillery or McCain.

[tschott22]

CLINTON SUCKS!!!!

[ittlebite]

If the Clinton/Bush gang can't hold on the the Whitehouse (Justice Department) they are in big trouble for crimes they have kept under wraps so to speak. Go Obama!

[vertigate]

The people are trying to help the Dem party win, but the Dem party is trying real hard to lose again. Nominate Hillary and John McCain will be the next POTUS.

[vigilance77]

I think Hillary is not going to make it; I think Obama is catching on more and more with the people, and more people are kind of tired of the same old, same old with another Clinton. I mean come on...how wierd is it for the wife of an ex-president to become president? I'm not against her because she's a woman, but she's already lived in the White House, and what can she bring to the table that's really new??!

[labar1000]

Have you forgotten when they wanted Mrs. Dole to run. Some of you people only have a choice memory.

[stuartjsk]

Hilary should concede

[labar1000]

Why? Do you want to let in all the illegals and Iraqs, to overcome this country. Can't we just have people come in a respect our Country, Why do you think Obama has so much money to spend, Do you really think it is from the little people, get real. It is all dirty money and others. We will not have a free Country anymore, just open all doors and let in all and we will not have America anymore. Be careful of Obama always saying change, you won't like what is to become.

[vigilance77]

labar1000, Obama has been raising alot of money from grassroots sources also. I think the country is hungry for positive changes; get out of this war, improve the economy, stop the lobbying by big corporations. Also, Obama is very strongly for protecting our borders. Have hope, labar1000, don't fear!

[danthemango]

bush would be offended by that statement. we aren't at war with iraq, were at war to save iraq from itself (that's what they say). another thing, you sound like you're from the hilary campaign, pointing fingers, pulling dirt and using scare tactics opposed to facts.

[RaulHery]

is ron paul alive?? the republican campain is so interesting! it's keep the supense in me

[danthemango]

it is fascinating, but statistics show they have little for support

[Riauw]

It's over baby. It's McCain. He stands a high chance of being the first to die in the WH.

[1voice1man]

Haha yeah he's pretty old but I like him, I am voting for Obama though.

But if us Dems somehow screw this one up, more power to McCain because we are incompitent haha.

[danthemango]

AAAAAAHH!!

[trublueone]

I totally agree :-)

[BforBryan]

obamafier likes this i quess...

[june201955]

Ron Paul in 08 ! No hype, just the truth !

[hollyhoodjoe123]

Dude stop! Its over for him.

More like Ron Paul '12

[danthemango]

I wouldn't be surprised if he stops his campaign an trys as a third party.

[3456ws]

The corporate media has more pundits than reporters.

[MeMurf]

VOTE RON PAUL FOR LIBERTY, FREEDOM, & PROSPERITY!!! WAKE UP SHEEPLE! DO NOT VOTE FOR ANY GLOBALIST SUPPORTED CANDIDATE. NEITHER HILLARY NOR OBAMA WILL PROTECT & RESTORE NATIONAL SOVEREIGNTY. GO TO RONPAUL2008(dot)COM AND CLICK ON THE ISSUES TAB. TAKE 5 MINUTES OF YOUR LIFE AND BEGIN TO AWAKEN FROM YOUR MAINSTREAM MEDIA BRAINWASHING. HAVE YOU SEEN THE MOVIES V FOR VENDATTA & THE MATRIX? WHICH PILL DOES THE MSM FORCE DOWN YOUR THROAT. RON PAUL IS OUR MODERN DAY REAL LIFE NON-VIOLENT V! GO RON

[theestranger]

She voted for the war, she voted AGAINST banning the use of cluster bombs in civilian areas.

That's enough for me not to vote for her.

[j0hnwi11iams]

Hillary the bitch has just endeared herself to the press by having Shuster suspended for using a bad analogy. Now she's going over to join her new friends at Fox.

Sure, words matter, but actions speak louder than words.

[Flyingthoughts]

Clinton is amazing!! no surrender! please vote for her!! seriously she is so much better than obama..

[wordcub]

you're an idiot.

[makanerwe]

bulshit

[HaloedG]

No.

[SirMildredPierce]

Sorry, I can't listen to her shrill scream for four years :(

[ndnspongebob]

Gobama!

[Riauw]

Here's how the power of the media can come in handy if you don't want a Clinton administration. Should have never threatened MSNBC to not appear in debates. First, she may not be president so gives a fuck what she thinks. Second, they own the air time!

[vertigate]

Hillary Clinton boycotting a debate? That's a threat??

[Riauw]

You heard? She has changed her bitchy mind.

[danthemango]

that doesn't sound like hilary, but not much does nowadays

[dj99surf]

wow it's really going to happen for Obama. he's unstoppable, hope he wins Texas.

[billobo]

That's music to my ears. However, I am going to wait until Texas and Ohio to believe it. If Obama can win one or both of those states, he has it pretty much locked down.

[runswithscissorsalot]

Although I support Obama, MSNBC has been known to be a quiet supporter of Obama. Their judgement can't necessarily be trusted, generally speaking. You still have Texas, a tough state for Obama.

[weareglowing]

You can hear someone get fired at 1:44

[intarwebzz]

heh

[nate35562]

I think Barack is going to be good for the middle class. I think HRC spent too much time on the board of trustees for walmart.

And McCain...well. Im tired of this shit in Iraq and I want it over with, soon.

GO OBAMA!

[Riauw]

And we don't want another C student in the WH, do we? WTF, are we setting a trend that idiots end up there.

[danthemango]

I frankly don't care as long as he's honest and willing to work for the best of the people, call me ignorant

[Riauw]

You're a fucking idiot.

[ejs98g]

I trust math not miracles. HRC needs 60% showings in Ohio and Texas to catch up.

It just isn't her year, but it is OK . . .she can try again like McCain did.

HRC in 2016? LOL

[DeepSouthDispatch]

If the super delegates go for Clinton after Obama wins the most pledged delegates, there will be a civil in the Democratic Party.

[danthemango]

what I'm worried about is that if clinton won the nomination people won't vote for a candidate the didn't vote for. it would be cancerous to the democrats

[crowhorse]

Well if she wins only by super delegates when the pledge delegates voted for Obama. I will not vote for her and will loose all my faith in the Democratic Party. They will just be saying out right that are votes don't count. And if that's the case she doesn't need my vote to win against McCain.

[SCW01902]

What was that noise? Something happen behind the camera there...lol.

[chumashfalcon]

That was David Shuster throwing the coffee maker at the wall, because he is so happy hillary is getting her ass kicked.

[Brent0788]

LOL

[CynicalSavior]

I never understood why people thought keeping power between the same two families for the last 20 years (Bush/Clinton/Bush/Clinton) was a good idea.

[Riauw]

First of all, who are these 'people' who think that way? They exist only in your imagination. Secondly, think, it's NOT going to happen. Clinton is going out Guliani-style.

[CynicalSavior]

Those people would be anyone that wants another Clinton in office.

I'm not knocking Bill I'm saying that we're in one sorry state if there are only two families in the entire country that can produce someone "qualified" to be president.

[Riauw]

Voting for Clinton doesn't mean that they consciously want a dynasty to happen. There are women who vote for her just cos it's a women thing; Hispanics vote for her cos it makes it easier to break the immigration laws, Blacks vote for her cos that some how means that race is not an issue for them, etc.

[danthemango]

it's not the families that bother me, it's the fact that only wealthy people manage to rise the political ranks, and it's that reason for the president's give presents to their country club friends (tax cuts for the rich)

[Riauw]

Yah, well, they're where they are cos someone out there voted them into office. Everyone is to blame if you think about it. *shrugs*

[SubmarinerAndroid]

Damn. Obama's got it.

I favor him but part of me never really believed it would happen.

Wow.

[danthemango]

this was a very recent trend, he's ahead, but just behind in super delegates. the question is which team do you want to be on, the side that is ahead or the side that is coming up really quickly

[TylerNull]

After patiently waiting 7 years for the Democrat's war plan we finally got their promise to surrender to the Islamists, which their leadership, Pelosi & Reid, immediately betrayed. Now they want to proffer a Muslim/Atheist/Christian for US President.

How can we be sure he will institute Sharia Law, or continue to force taxpayer to build Muslim prayer facilities, if elected?

Democrats have lost even their credibility to reliably betray the nation.

[Xephist]

Wow, So much misinformation in under 500 characters. I applaud you.

[TylerNull]

Wow, Such baseless complaining without so much as an attempt to refute. (No applause.)

[danthemango]

he's not muslim, and we're not fighting muslims, we're fighting backward thinking in the islamic world. I have news for you, no one will be any safer with soldiers in iraq.

sorry for dissing you, but seriously, do you watch fox?

[TylerNull]

"... we're not fighting muslims" -- danthedemocrat

Therein we witness the abject denial of reality required of Leftist devotees. Which is why Liberalism is known as a severe mental disorder.

[danthemango]

you're the reason for attacks like 9/11.

[danthemango]

you didn't answer my question.

[ArthurTyler]

You took that from the skinny fucking skank Ann Coulter's monologue. Be original.

[TylerNull]

Never assume your opposition uses your tactics. However, you have earned an AC quote:

"If you don't leave Liberals in a sputtering, impotent rage, then you're not doing it right." -- Ann Coulter

[ArthurTyler]

I'm not mad, just stating facts. Your athiest/muslim/christian... rip was borrowed from Ann. I don't have opposition, but there are some people like her that I don't respect. big deal. She's a fucking nasty skank. Try to think for yourself once in a while why don't you. Go McCain! He's going to lose anyway.

[TylerNull]

The "rip" is from Obama's apologists. Their tortured explanation of Obama's fraud is that his mother was Atheist, his father(s) Muslim and him "Christian".

They recite their gibberish too dull minded to even notice the half-life of an Atheist wife in Muslim nations is measured in seconds.

McCain & Obama -- both are sponsored by George Soros.

[danthemango]

he and his father aren't muslim, they just lived in muslim nations.

[TylerNull]

"he and his father aren't muslim" -- danthedemocrat

Too late. You publicly debased yourself with your earlier statement:

"... we're not fighting muslims" -- danthedemocrat

So, there's nothing I can do or post to reestablish your credibility.

[danthemango]

it was two separate points. one about obama and one about the war. I 'm not ashamed.

[TylerNull]

Two separate "points" -- true.

However, the dementia you exhibited via the second further discredits the first, as well as all of your other "points".

Give reality a chance.

[danthemango]

what was the purpose of entering iraq (using money the US didn't have and borrowing $3trillion)

[Ikazi]

Got the war cost back in oil production? And now have an army in the middle east capable of massive invasion of 'rogue' states?

[2008HIPHOP]

-lkazi

ding ding ding. Give that youtuber a prize!!!

[danthemango]

I don't like McCain cause he's a warmonger. I don't know the reason for voting for Huckabee except for not liking McCain or cause he's a christian.

[danthemango]

it's this war that is bankrupting the nation, the question is as well, is it worth the cost?