Too bad we can't send about a million of these to the middle east. A smoking, glassed crater would be much more conducive to world peace than the "religion of peace". Oops, ya'll better tell janet I said that, big sis is always looking for hate mongers like myself.
So many people are ashamed to be members of humanity, because we're the "worst/stupidest" species to exist. When compared to others, yes, we've done more to harm this planet than most will ever do; but that goes both ways. We'll also do more good than others could hope to accomplish. I doubt they're even capable of distinguishing good and evil. And until we find another species that is just as capable of pondering philosophy as we are we won't know how good or bad the human condition is.
@leoppmkd2 I feelthis was very pretentious ... I'd guess Oppenheimer wasn't even in the top 5 major contributors to the bomb. I'd like to know more about that..
Awesome I'm guessing 10 years from now if I'm not dead burned to crisp or radiated, I'll be living in vaults like the ones on the game, Fallout! Life just keeps on getting better and better :D
What makes me laugh though is why do we need bombs this big? Are we planning on blowing up the moon! or our self's... Or do they make them ''Just because they can'' The human race will kill it's self off. Curiosity will do that! Because it killed the cat! And it will sure enough kill us too!
@leelee8051 It was more out of fear I think. Fear that the enemy would have a bigger nuke. The Cold War was based on fear. Neither side wanted to build nukes, but they feared the intentions of the other side so they kept building their defense. Unfortunently, the knowledge accumulated in our paranoia regarding nukes will likely end humanity at some point. It's a minor miracle that no nukes have been used in warfare since WWII.
creating weapons that they themselves can't control, weapons that would destroy life. cavemen only a cavemen will create an arsenal of weapons like this. all it would take is a bunch of cavemen with keys that would destroy themselves. you broke universal laws creating energy sources off this destructive energy of sin, dummies. A band of idiots the manhattan project. so much crap has been done on this earth power hungry, destructive mentalities and oppresive.
They spent 24 billion dollars, hiring over 130000 people to create something capable of driving us to extinction? Imagine what they could have achieved if their focus was on something constructive like eradicating hunger, poverty, environmental destruction, diseases...I could go on and on. IT IS NOT AN ACHIEVEMENT. ANYONE WHO SAYS SO IS THE SATAN OF HUMANITY!!
@betawarrior60x A big part of it was to get it before Nazi Germany did first... anyway, why would an idealistic weenie click on a video about a nuke, anyway?
@early65model Really? If you knew ANYTHING about history, you would know that germany never succeeded in creating an atom bomb. BTW, you should have been one of the folks who perished in Hiroshima or Nagasaki...
With today's technology and the given number of nuclear weapons, over 85 percent of the world would be decimated within 7 hours of global nuclear war. The atomic weopons of "today" are equivilent to hundreds of thousands of kilotons of TNT vs the Trinity test which was only 20,000. The Tsar test by Russia yielded an equivilent to 50,000 megatons of TNT... 2500 times stonger than the Trinity test bomb and only half the original size intended to be tested.
Note that the fireball looks just like a scoop of ice cream pressed down, with a semicircle, and edges at the bottom. Any fireball with the claimed force would necessarily expand faster than a bullet fired from a gun, with only a chemical explosion. And bullets are easily and very often faster than the speed of sound. So, how is that shock wave ( which can go no faster than sound ) pushing ahead the Earth on the ground, faster than the fireball ?
This test occurred at the 33 rd parallel, along with the assassination of JFK in Dallas. There are 33 degrees of Freemasonry. Also, Fort Sumter is at the 33 rd parallel, and Nagasaki, Japan, where the second atomic bomb was ( supposedly ) dropped. Osama bin Laden was killed only one degree North of the 33 rd parallel.
More significantly, the explosion occurred at exactly the time of the sunrise on July 16. Why pick that time ? Because that fireball is what they were looking at.
@cooldudeguy6 after The cold war there was enough nuclear weapons to eradicate all like on earth 40 times over, and those were only the ones that were declared... Kinda scary. :S
"As the scientists watched the mushroom cloud rise, they all cheered and celebrated, but they looked into the center of the mushroom cloud and realized they just planted the seeds to the destruction of Earth..." -Cooldudeguy6
@firstclassskeptic. Watch the vid about the castle bravo test or talk to anyone who lived in hiroshima or Nagasaki japan in august 1945. They'll tell you.
I'll let you off the hook. You're just like every blind supporter of the A-bombings, buying in to Truman's bullshit propaganda about a million dead Japanese in the event of an invasion. As if not invading at all was never an option. Crush your opponent under your boot until he begs for mercy and surrenders. That is the American way of making war.
@BBQhonk idiot u do realize we did it because most of the japanese were reverting to kamikaze strikes, which means if we invaded they would not surrender......., but with the atomic bomb we could just drop and boom, several million lives lost without one from us. It was pretty much a fear weapon and we had hoped they would surrender because at the time we only had two bombs made, fat man and little boy. In the end if u ask any veteran of the war, they all agree on dropping it.
So if the atomic bomb did not exist, would the U.S. have been justified in going into Hiroshima and Nagasaki and machine-gunning 130,000 civilians? After all, it would have saved just as many Japanese civilians according to your twisted logic.
God, I can't believe people still attempt to justify the vaporizing of tens of thousands of people. Brain-washed "patriots" will justify anything to support their world view.
@BBQhonk People like you who claim the a-bomb was unnecessary are just trying to find fault in America. Machine-gunning civilians and dropping an atomic bomb are NOT the same thing. You're the one with the twisted logic. The Japanese had over 5 million armed soldiers ready to defend the mainland and thousands of kamikaze pilots too. Most members of the Imperial Army and the US Army were drafted so they were civilians prior to the war. ( New comment out of characters )
Hell yeah I'm finding fault with America, or rather the monsters in the U.S. government who vaporized 130,000+ civilians. You're right that there is a difference between machine-gunning people and nuking them from the air. Dropping bombs is the cowardly way of waging war. It removes the murderer from the destruction his acts have caused.
As for the draft, that is a form of slavery. The draftee has two choices. He can either refuse to become a hired killer or he can set his conscience aside. He may end up in prison, but at least he'll be able to face God one day and say he refused to murder his fellow man on command. Thoreau said it best: "Under a government which imprisons any unjustly, the true place for a just man is also a prison."
@BBQhonk Hey buddy, guess what. You couldn't refuse the draft in Japan and if you did in the U.S. you would be a hypocrite because you would be living in a free country without serving it. And don't call soldiers "hired killers", because they are not. Need I remind you that the U.S. tried to remain neutral, but the Japanese generals murdered over 1,000 at Pearl Harbor. I don't blame the Japanese pilots, they were following orders.
You always have a choice. You just have to be willing to accept the consequences of your actions. And who cares about your so-called hypocrisy? I answer to a higher power than you, a bunch of crooked politicians or a cadre of bloodthirsty generals.
Soldiers are indeed hired killers. They are paid to wreak destruction on anyone they are ordered to. What do you call them? Wait, I know. Heroes. Whatever.
Do you also absolve the SS guards who herded Jews into the gas chambers? They were just following orders too. If not, why not? At what point is a man responsible for his own actions?
@BBQhonk Also, you have to take into account the Soviet Union. The a-bomb provided a quick end to the war and prevented the Soviets from occupying Japan. Take a look at North Korea today. It is the last remaining Stalinist nation in the world and is the most censored nation and has some of the lowest living standards in the world. Same situation in Berlin. If Japan was divided, it would be in the same situation Korea is in today. The Japanese were preparing resistance and did NOT surrender.
Defenders of the A-bomb will go to any lengths to defend it. I will never justify the senseless murder of innocent life. You can argue "this would have happened" or "that would have happened." It's all speculation on your part. What I do know is that the U.S. military wiped two Japanese cities off the map in the blink of an eye. Curtis LeMay is as big a war criminal as any Nazi was. You do know that Ike and Nimitz both opposed the use of the A-bomb too, right?
@BBQhonk Believe it or not, humans are naturally violent. Ever since the earliest humans discovered they could club another human to take his food, humans have been killing each other. Its a sad and unfortunate world we live in and if the U.S. just stopped fighting wars to preserve freedom, the world would be a very different place. No matter what you say, more people would have died in an invasion of Japan. The U.S. took the path that would kill less people. Argument over.
You don't get to end the argument that easily. Answer my question I posed earlier. Do you absolve the SS guards that gassed thousands of Jews because they were following orders? If not, why do you absolve U.S. pilots who dropped thousands of tons of incendiaries on Japanese cities killing hundreds of thousands of men, women and children?
The U.S. is not in the business of preserving freedom. It is in the business of expanding its scope and power.
@BBQhonk Many SS guards actually made the plan to systematically exterminate the Jews during the Holocaust. Hitler wasn't the only Jew hater. These are completely two different subjects. You brought up the Holocaust, a genocide. I'm talking about the war in the Pacific. Those involved in genocide are obviously responsible for their actions, however war is much different. Give up your "US is evil" mentality, because its a bunch of bullshit.
I'll give up my "U.S. is evil" bullshit if you give up your "U.S. is great" bullshit. Nations are neither great nor evil. They are composed of men making great or evil decisions. The U.S. is no different from any nation that ever existed because all men have the potential for greatness or evil.
Nice to know that every SS guard made the decision to commit genocide so that the "just following orders" excuse does not apply to them. You're seriously confused.
@BBQhonk I never said the the U.S. is perfect. But they certainly made the right decision about Japan at the close of WWII. You're seriously confused, because you are comparing apples to oranges. Genocide is NOT war.
No. I understand the difference very well. I asked you if the guards at the camps were absolved of their actions because they were following orders. Thus far, you have refused to answer the question. I suspect that is because the question is too uncomfortable for you to answer.
@BBQhonk Any Nazi involved in the systematic destruction of over 14 million Jews, Poles, communists, homosexuals and disabled people should be held responsible for their actions, because genocide is different than war. In war its either you die, or they die. What are you going to do? Genocide is different, because you are killing innocent people. There is my answer.
So the children at Nagasaki and Hiroshima were guilty? They must have been because you are willing to give the pilots of the Enola Gay a pass for vaporizing them. Just following orders...
@BBQhonk What is the difference between killing civilians and soldiers? In my mind there is no difference, both are humans dying which is the last thing I want. So more humans would have died in an invasion than in the a-bombs. You call me brainwashed yet you fail to look at the facts and understand that the a-bombs were completely justified. The Japanese never responded to the Potsdam Declaration and were warned of the destruction. Do your research and learn something about US history.
You're a fool. Civilians are just trying to live their lives in the midst of hell. Soldiers are in the business of murdering and destroying property. That's what they do. U.S. soldiers actually had to travel to Japan to do their killing. The Japanese people were living in their homes.
As for surrendering, who cares about an unconditional surrender? Japan was completely emasculated at that point. A formal surrender meant nothing.
of course that wasn't enough, they had to drop it on someone... then they needed to make the super... then they had to make it bigger... then they had to make more... then they needed to put them in missiles... XP
i reckon theyll just discover a technology that will produce an explosion big enough to wipe out the entire planet. not like theyll discover it an gradually build up, but that someone will have an idea in some lab in a university somewhere and theyll go "fuck, if you split particles smaller than an atom the explosion is 1000 times more powerful" or something and that will be that. 15 years later were all vaporised
@TheJay9002 Tsh, I wouldn't be surprised. Then again, humans as a race seems to be getting a little less stupid. Or they're at least faking it anyways. But who cares. We're all gonna be dead by 2012 anyways right? Lol... Fuckin great prediction.
Mayans' calendar ends on 2012....Get a new rock for a calendar. That's all there is to be said. No bullshit prophecy, or anything, JUST DRAW ON A NEW ROCK. The world won't end. It's been scientifically proven it can't even possibly happen no matter what we do for at least another 1000 years.
@KennyDaPILOT Yea... Unfortunately sarcasm is a lot harder to pull off on the computer. "We're all gonna be dead by 2012 anywasy right? Lol fuckin great prediction." <--- Sarcasm. But I completely agree.
@Bouncy1988 what? we're getting more stupider as a race, look at society today and compare it to the 90s -- yes society was stupid in the 90s but now as stupid as society is now.
@Bouncy1988 Yes, we are getting less stupid, because in 1941, America went along with the Pearl Harbor attack with a surge a patriotism, when they should have been angry at FDR for provoking it and allowing it to happen. They should have been angry at LBJ, and accessory after the fact ( because he participated in the cover-up) to the assassination of JFK, but instead they gave LBJ a landslide victory. Now, most people realize that it was a conspiracy.
@TheJay9002 People are actually trying to find stuff like taht already. Antimatter, which has been created several times has the potential to be a very powerful source of energy. unfortunatly, that energy can also be used in weapons as well. Humans always move forward on all fronts, but we move the fastest on the track of war.
@TheJay9002 Actually, we already have the potential to do that. Take for example, if we started a nuclear war with Russia and North Korea, or just Russia alone, no one could win. No one wins a nuclear war, because the world will be destroyed from all the devastating nukes.
@Cooldudeguy6 : In truth, the world won't end. It's more that the launch of all those thousands of ICBMs that both countries would be in a state of ruin, and potentially anyone else that is caught in the attacks as well. I'd reckon that many of the Third World countries (not the derogatory term of the word) would be fine.
@Kaesoism Well, very nice statement, Kaesoism. However, how many countries possess nuclear weapons? Like, six or something, right? It could have an effect like WWI, allies backing up allies, thus causing a big conflict. Not to mention the nukes developed during the Cold War...I do think we could destroy the world by pressing just a few buttons, but thats just me. :)
@TheJay9002 Meh. Improbable. The most efficient form of energy generation possible is Matter-Antimatter anihhilation. 100% energy conversion ratio, and because you can't create or destroy energy you can't get a bigger explosion-to-mass ratio for a bomb. Even then, it would be practically impossible to destroy the earth, or even cause a mass extinction. You'd need way too much antimatter for it to be feasable, and the research budget would be enormous and pointless.
We already could destroy the world. Mutually assured destruction means that if anyone on the entire world uses a nuke, everyone on the planet dies. It's well within our capabilities.
If you haven't read the book On The Beach, you should.
@TheJay9002 Nuclear fusion already has the capability to instantly wipe out the entire planet. The Soviets developed a nuclear bomb that, when detonated north of Russia, shattered windows in Norway, and the bomb was only at half of the strength it was designed to accommodate. Look up Tsar Bomba. It'd be a simple task for scientists to create a bomb that could destroy entire continents.
O que justifica o terror de uma guerra? Todos temos o direito de existir...as armas nucleares se tornaram um mal necessário para evitar briga de cachorro grande,agora os cachorros menores que se cuidem...ONU com apenas 5 membros permanentes no Conselho de segurança? Cadê a democracia?Melhor perguntar para a China que não usa mascaras....
......and then some slimy greaseball jews working on the Manhatten Project handed over to the Russians the secrets that go into making an atomic bomb.
Not so sure they did fail personally. Hitler was aware of Operation Sunrise. Hitler was negotiating for USA to join Germany in it's fight against Bolshevism. When negotiating you have to have some chips to play with. Hitler did not survive, but USA spent billions creating NATO to protect West germany from the Warsaw Pact and Germany provided technology and it's spy network in Russia.
America didn't start that shit mspickass, the germans and japs did, so STFU.
If the axis had the bomb first they'd of gleefully dropped them THE FUCK all over europe/asia/america and taken over the world. Where would that leave you, you smug little anti-american twat?
That's not true. Find some evidence for this (besides neo-nazi or fascist sites) and present it here and I'm sure that I, and other posters, will consider it, but I haven't seen anything remotely credible on the subject.
@lagata789 You need to work on your evidence my friend. Germany never had atomic weapons. It is true that they attempted to develop them, but they never came close due to sabotage and allied bombing
@Dawgsbest Germany had a Uranium enrichment plant at Kandern in 1945 and there is a letter from Gerlach to Goering's secretary in Oct 1944 describing good progress on germany's atomic bomb. At Bug, Rugen Is there were test explosions in Oct 1944 and at Ohrdruf in March 1945 more tests, both of which left radioactive contamination which was conclusively not Chernobyl fall out
@Dawgsbest Also the Soviets captured German military newsreel footage of the Rugen Island test blast and have released it from KGB archives. Both test areas ar still hot with elevated levels of Caesium 137 and there is no trace of contaminents at either site which are known to have accompanied fall out from Chernobyl. USA wrote the history books and kept classified anything contradicting American supremacy with the bomb. Germany was only weeks away in 1945 from a hiroshima sized bomb.
2 people can't complete braid
Alawey94 3 weeks ago
I learned about this by finishing braid.
Friendofafriend0 1 month ago
2 people like penis
Juicefathercam 1 month ago
Too bad we can't send about a million of these to the middle east. A smoking, glassed crater would be much more conducive to world peace than the "religion of peace". Oops, ya'll better tell janet I said that, big sis is always looking for hate mongers like myself.
sousadev07 1 month ago
So many people are ashamed to be members of humanity, because we're the "worst/stupidest" species to exist. When compared to others, yes, we've done more to harm this planet than most will ever do; but that goes both ways. We'll also do more good than others could hope to accomplish. I doubt they're even capable of distinguishing good and evil. And until we find another species that is just as capable of pondering philosophy as we are we won't know how good or bad the human condition is.
Kaesoism 4 months ago 3
@Kaesoism no you dumbass humans think for themselves creating stuff theyre the smartest speices you ignorant asshole
somany5 2 weeks ago
"I am become Death, the destroyer of worlds"
leoppmkd2 4 months ago 13
@leoppmkd2 "Now we are all sons-of-bitches"
alerte1234 2 months ago
@leoppmkd2 I feelthis was very pretentious ... I'd guess Oppenheimer wasn't even in the top 5 major contributors to the bomb. I'd like to know more about that..
MultiGalmeida 2 months ago
Awesome I'm guessing 10 years from now if I'm not dead burned to crisp or radiated, I'll be living in vaults like the ones on the game, Fallout! Life just keeps on getting better and better :D
Fajafar13 4 months ago
@AguilaComandanteDGO Are you so dumb that you can't comprehend the main factors of an OBVIOUS joke? I'll explain it to you.
The Mayans calendar was written on a rock.
They ran out of space.
They needed a new calendar, or rock.
Get it?
KennyDaPILOT 4 months ago
What makes me laugh though is why do we need bombs this big? Are we planning on blowing up the moon! or our self's... Or do they make them ''Just because they can'' The human race will kill it's self off. Curiosity will do that! Because it killed the cat! And it will sure enough kill us too!
leelee8051 6 months ago
@leelee8051 It was more out of fear I think. Fear that the enemy would have a bigger nuke. The Cold War was based on fear. Neither side wanted to build nukes, but they feared the intentions of the other side so they kept building their defense. Unfortunently, the knowledge accumulated in our paranoia regarding nukes will likely end humanity at some point. It's a minor miracle that no nukes have been used in warfare since WWII.
congokong87 4 months ago
creating weapons that they themselves can't control, weapons that would destroy life. cavemen only a cavemen will create an arsenal of weapons like this. all it would take is a bunch of cavemen with keys that would destroy themselves. you broke universal laws creating energy sources off this destructive energy of sin, dummies. A band of idiots the manhattan project. so much crap has been done on this earth power hungry, destructive mentalities and oppresive.
mingacorre 6 months ago
They spent 24 billion dollars, hiring over 130000 people to create something capable of driving us to extinction? Imagine what they could have achieved if their focus was on something constructive like eradicating hunger, poverty, environmental destruction, diseases...I could go on and on. IT IS NOT AN ACHIEVEMENT. ANYONE WHO SAYS SO IS THE SATAN OF HUMANITY!!
betawarrior60x 6 months ago
@betawarrior60x A big part of it was to get it before Nazi Germany did first... anyway, why would an idealistic weenie click on a video about a nuke, anyway?
early65model 5 months ago
@early65model Really? If you knew ANYTHING about history, you would know that germany never succeeded in creating an atom bomb. BTW, you should have been one of the folks who perished in Hiroshima or Nagasaki...
betawarrior60x 4 months ago
@betawarrior60x Now you're condoning the atomic bombings of Japan? Get your head out your ass, weenie!
early65model 4 months ago
@early65model Your a nublet with no knowledge of history. Why don't you just get your balls reattached and go fuck yourself?
betawarrior60x 4 months ago
Dr. Teller wasn't the most optimistic of folks. Then again, neither was anybody who worked on the project
BloodofSpartans 6 months ago
Luckily I have a radiation proof fridge. As long as I stay in there I'm good.
2pacsrevenge 7 months ago
With today's technology and the given number of nuclear weapons, over 85 percent of the world would be decimated within 7 hours of global nuclear war. The atomic weopons of "today" are equivilent to hundreds of thousands of kilotons of TNT vs the Trinity test which was only 20,000. The Tsar test by Russia yielded an equivilent to 50,000 megatons of TNT... 2500 times stonger than the Trinity test bomb and only half the original size intended to be tested.
fordrallycross 7 months ago
A few people laughed, a few people cried, most people were silent.
RunFaster011 7 months ago
@RunFaster011 LP much lol
TheJobie001 6 months ago
Note that the fireball looks just like a scoop of ice cream pressed down, with a semicircle, and edges at the bottom. Any fireball with the claimed force would necessarily expand faster than a bullet fired from a gun, with only a chemical explosion. And bullets are easily and very often faster than the speed of sound. So, how is that shock wave ( which can go no faster than sound ) pushing ahead the Earth on the ground, faster than the fireball ?
mooninquirer 7 months ago
This test occurred at the 33 rd parallel, along with the assassination of JFK in Dallas. There are 33 degrees of Freemasonry. Also, Fort Sumter is at the 33 rd parallel, and Nagasaki, Japan, where the second atomic bomb was ( supposedly ) dropped. Osama bin Laden was killed only one degree North of the 33 rd parallel.
More significantly, the explosion occurred at exactly the time of the sunrise on July 16. Why pick that time ? Because that fireball is what they were looking at.
mooninquirer 7 months ago
I'm sry, but HOW THE FUCK CAN U GUYS LIKE THIS VIDEO?!
MrMultiJim 8 months ago
@cooldudeguy6 after The cold war there was enough nuclear weapons to eradicate all like on earth 40 times over, and those were only the ones that were declared... Kinda scary. :S
VladimirZharkov 8 months ago
I like the part where it went PKSHSHHSHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHFFFFFFFF
Howabout you guys?
TheQuietGrave 8 months ago
"As the scientists watched the mushroom cloud rise, they all cheered and celebrated, but they looked into the center of the mushroom cloud and realized they just planted the seeds to the destruction of Earth..." -Cooldudeguy6
Thumbs up if you agree.
Cooldudeguy6 8 months ago
@firstclassskeptic. Watch the vid about the castle bravo test or talk to anyone who lived in hiroshima or Nagasaki japan in august 1945. They'll tell you.
DudeUnP3rfect 9 months ago
It's a fake. There no such thing as an atomic bomb.
FirstClassSkeptic 10 months ago
@FirstClassSkeptic
are you kidding?
maxxal22 10 months ago
I'll let you off the hook. You're just like every blind supporter of the A-bombings, buying in to Truman's bullshit propaganda about a million dead Japanese in the event of an invasion. As if not invading at all was never an option. Crush your opponent under your boot until he begs for mercy and surrenders. That is the American way of making war.
BBQhonk 10 months ago
@BBQhonk idiot u do realize we did it because most of the japanese were reverting to kamikaze strikes, which means if we invaded they would not surrender......., but with the atomic bomb we could just drop and boom, several million lives lost without one from us. It was pretty much a fear weapon and we had hoped they would surrender because at the time we only had two bombs made, fat man and little boy. In the end if u ask any veteran of the war, they all agree on dropping it.
aron7628 10 months ago
More Japanese civillians would be killed if the US didnt drop the a-bombs. The US tried to remain neutral but after Pearl Harbor they had no choice.
vivalaryan54 11 months ago
@vivalaryan54 is that what they teach you americans in school?
Xenitic 10 months ago
@vivalaryan54
So if the atomic bomb did not exist, would the U.S. have been justified in going into Hiroshima and Nagasaki and machine-gunning 130,000 civilians? After all, it would have saved just as many Japanese civilians according to your twisted logic.
God, I can't believe people still attempt to justify the vaporizing of tens of thousands of people. Brain-washed "patriots" will justify anything to support their world view.
BBQhonk 10 months ago
@BBQhonk People like you who claim the a-bomb was unnecessary are just trying to find fault in America. Machine-gunning civilians and dropping an atomic bomb are NOT the same thing. You're the one with the twisted logic. The Japanese had over 5 million armed soldiers ready to defend the mainland and thousands of kamikaze pilots too. Most members of the Imperial Army and the US Army were drafted so they were civilians prior to the war. ( New comment out of characters )
vivalaryan54 10 months ago
@vivalaryan54
Hell yeah I'm finding fault with America, or rather the monsters in the U.S. government who vaporized 130,000+ civilians. You're right that there is a difference between machine-gunning people and nuking them from the air. Dropping bombs is the cowardly way of waging war. It removes the murderer from the destruction his acts have caused.
BBQhonk 10 months ago
@vivalaryan54
As for the draft, that is a form of slavery. The draftee has two choices. He can either refuse to become a hired killer or he can set his conscience aside. He may end up in prison, but at least he'll be able to face God one day and say he refused to murder his fellow man on command. Thoreau said it best: "Under a government which imprisons any unjustly, the true place for a just man is also a prison."
BBQhonk 10 months ago
@BBQhonk Hey buddy, guess what. You couldn't refuse the draft in Japan and if you did in the U.S. you would be a hypocrite because you would be living in a free country without serving it. And don't call soldiers "hired killers", because they are not. Need I remind you that the U.S. tried to remain neutral, but the Japanese generals murdered over 1,000 at Pearl Harbor. I don't blame the Japanese pilots, they were following orders.
vivalaryan54 10 months ago
@vivalaryan54
You always have a choice. You just have to be willing to accept the consequences of your actions. And who cares about your so-called hypocrisy? I answer to a higher power than you, a bunch of crooked politicians or a cadre of bloodthirsty generals.
Soldiers are indeed hired killers. They are paid to wreak destruction on anyone they are ordered to. What do you call them? Wait, I know. Heroes. Whatever.
BBQhonk 10 months ago
@vivalaryan54
Do you also absolve the SS guards who herded Jews into the gas chambers? They were just following orders too. If not, why not? At what point is a man responsible for his own actions?
BBQhonk 10 months ago
@BBQhonk Also, you have to take into account the Soviet Union. The a-bomb provided a quick end to the war and prevented the Soviets from occupying Japan. Take a look at North Korea today. It is the last remaining Stalinist nation in the world and is the most censored nation and has some of the lowest living standards in the world. Same situation in Berlin. If Japan was divided, it would be in the same situation Korea is in today. The Japanese were preparing resistance and did NOT surrender.
vivalaryan54 10 months ago
@vivalaryan54
Defenders of the A-bomb will go to any lengths to defend it. I will never justify the senseless murder of innocent life. You can argue "this would have happened" or "that would have happened." It's all speculation on your part. What I do know is that the U.S. military wiped two Japanese cities off the map in the blink of an eye. Curtis LeMay is as big a war criminal as any Nazi was. You do know that Ike and Nimitz both opposed the use of the A-bomb too, right?
BBQhonk 10 months ago
@BBQhonk Believe it or not, humans are naturally violent. Ever since the earliest humans discovered they could club another human to take his food, humans have been killing each other. Its a sad and unfortunate world we live in and if the U.S. just stopped fighting wars to preserve freedom, the world would be a very different place. No matter what you say, more people would have died in an invasion of Japan. The U.S. took the path that would kill less people. Argument over.
vivalaryan54 10 months ago
@vivalaryan54
You don't get to end the argument that easily. Answer my question I posed earlier. Do you absolve the SS guards that gassed thousands of Jews because they were following orders? If not, why do you absolve U.S. pilots who dropped thousands of tons of incendiaries on Japanese cities killing hundreds of thousands of men, women and children?
The U.S. is not in the business of preserving freedom. It is in the business of expanding its scope and power.
BBQhonk 10 months ago
@BBQhonk Many SS guards actually made the plan to systematically exterminate the Jews during the Holocaust. Hitler wasn't the only Jew hater. These are completely two different subjects. You brought up the Holocaust, a genocide. I'm talking about the war in the Pacific. Those involved in genocide are obviously responsible for their actions, however war is much different. Give up your "US is evil" mentality, because its a bunch of bullshit.
vivalaryan54 10 months ago
@vivalaryan54
I'll give up my "U.S. is evil" bullshit if you give up your "U.S. is great" bullshit. Nations are neither great nor evil. They are composed of men making great or evil decisions. The U.S. is no different from any nation that ever existed because all men have the potential for greatness or evil.
Nice to know that every SS guard made the decision to commit genocide so that the "just following orders" excuse does not apply to them. You're seriously confused.
BBQhonk 10 months ago
@BBQhonk I never said the the U.S. is perfect. But they certainly made the right decision about Japan at the close of WWII. You're seriously confused, because you are comparing apples to oranges. Genocide is NOT war.
vivalaryan54 10 months ago
@vivalaryan54
No. I understand the difference very well. I asked you if the guards at the camps were absolved of their actions because they were following orders. Thus far, you have refused to answer the question. I suspect that is because the question is too uncomfortable for you to answer.
BBQhonk 10 months ago
@BBQhonk Any Nazi involved in the systematic destruction of over 14 million Jews, Poles, communists, homosexuals and disabled people should be held responsible for their actions, because genocide is different than war. In war its either you die, or they die. What are you going to do? Genocide is different, because you are killing innocent people. There is my answer.
vivalaryan54 10 months ago
@vivalaryan54
So the children at Nagasaki and Hiroshima were guilty? They must have been because you are willing to give the pilots of the Enola Gay a pass for vaporizing them. Just following orders...
BBQhonk 10 months ago
@BBQhonk What is the difference between killing civilians and soldiers? In my mind there is no difference, both are humans dying which is the last thing I want. So more humans would have died in an invasion than in the a-bombs. You call me brainwashed yet you fail to look at the facts and understand that the a-bombs were completely justified. The Japanese never responded to the Potsdam Declaration and were warned of the destruction. Do your research and learn something about US history.
vivalaryan54 10 months ago
@vivalaryan54
You're a fool. Civilians are just trying to live their lives in the midst of hell. Soldiers are in the business of murdering and destroying property. That's what they do. U.S. soldiers actually had to travel to Japan to do their killing. The Japanese people were living in their homes.
As for surrendering, who cares about an unconditional surrender? Japan was completely emasculated at that point. A formal surrender meant nothing.
BBQhonk 10 months ago
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man creates bomb...
man detonates bomb...
bomb kills man...
man blames bomb.
akantor09 11 months ago
how can americans be so dumd at that years...using a weapon that can kill the entire planet...
alexchooo123 1 year ago
of course that wasn't enough, they had to drop it on someone... then they needed to make the super... then they had to make it bigger... then they had to make more... then they needed to put them in missiles... XP
fucking cold war.
ColonelSchafer 1 year ago
@ColonelSchafer hey, at least during the Cold War we didn't use any of them.
mccoybrows 11 months ago
eat it
early65model 1 year ago
And now I am become death, the destroyer of worlds
cowboyzsuk81 1 year ago
At 1:00 Dr Phillip Morrison is a Reptilian. Look his pupils.
PERICOCAPO1978 1 year ago
i reckon theyll just discover a technology that will produce an explosion big enough to wipe out the entire planet. not like theyll discover it an gradually build up, but that someone will have an idea in some lab in a university somewhere and theyll go "fuck, if you split particles smaller than an atom the explosion is 1000 times more powerful" or something and that will be that. 15 years later were all vaporised
TheJay9002 1 year ago 5
@TheJay9002 Tsh, I wouldn't be surprised. Then again, humans as a race seems to be getting a little less stupid. Or they're at least faking it anyways. But who cares. We're all gonna be dead by 2012 anyways right? Lol... Fuckin great prediction.
Bouncy1988 1 year ago
@Bouncy1988 2012? Don't start that bullshit...
Mayans' calendar ends on 2012....Get a new rock for a calendar. That's all there is to be said. No bullshit prophecy, or anything, JUST DRAW ON A NEW ROCK. The world won't end. It's been scientifically proven it can't even possibly happen no matter what we do for at least another 1000 years.
Don't be so crazy.
KennyDaPILOT 1 year ago
@KennyDaPILOT Yea... Unfortunately sarcasm is a lot harder to pull off on the computer. "We're all gonna be dead by 2012 anywasy right? Lol fuckin great prediction." <--- Sarcasm. But I completely agree.
Bouncy1988 1 year ago
@Bouncy1988 Mayans calendar ends in 2012 so they will die only i will continue to live ...
I mean if they believe that shaman (their priest) can kill whole village with magic
let them do massive suicide on 2012 :)
JohnMinigun 11 months ago
@Bouncy1988 what? we're getting more stupider as a race, look at society today and compare it to the 90s -- yes society was stupid in the 90s but now as stupid as society is now.
SatanFang 4 months ago
@KennyDaPILOT No way does the world end in 2012; I've got a bottle of vitamins that expires in 2013.
reaperette 6 months ago
@Bouncy1988= Oh shut up about 2012 already. We're all sick of it.
vigo894 8 months ago
@Bouncy1988 Yes, we are getting less stupid, because in 1941, America went along with the Pearl Harbor attack with a surge a patriotism, when they should have been angry at FDR for provoking it and allowing it to happen. They should have been angry at LBJ, and accessory after the fact ( because he participated in the cover-up) to the assassination of JFK, but instead they gave LBJ a landslide victory. Now, most people realize that it was a conspiracy.
mooninquirer 7 months ago
@TheJay9002 People are actually trying to find stuff like taht already. Antimatter, which has been created several times has the potential to be a very powerful source of energy. unfortunatly, that energy can also be used in weapons as well. Humans always move forward on all fronts, but we move the fastest on the track of war.
primal114 1 year ago
@primal114
you hit the right path, but i feel that we as humans create more things for death than for life.
its not in our nature, but rather in our society that makes us lean towards that. imagine if it was the opposite way around....
joker0187 11 months ago
@TheJay9002 how are you going to split 'particles' smaller than an atom?
herrzyklon 1 year ago
@TheJay9002 have a look at lithium fusion weapons sometime
MrTrescojones 10 months ago
@TheJay9002 Actually, we already have the potential to do that. Take for example, if we started a nuclear war with Russia and North Korea, or just Russia alone, no one could win. No one wins a nuclear war, because the world will be destroyed from all the devastating nukes.
Cooldudeguy6 8 months ago
@Cooldudeguy6 : In truth, the world won't end. It's more that the launch of all those thousands of ICBMs that both countries would be in a state of ruin, and potentially anyone else that is caught in the attacks as well. I'd reckon that many of the Third World countries (not the derogatory term of the word) would be fine.
Though, I see what your point was.
Kaesoism 8 months ago
@Kaesoism Well, very nice statement, Kaesoism. However, how many countries possess nuclear weapons? Like, six or something, right? It could have an effect like WWI, allies backing up allies, thus causing a big conflict. Not to mention the nukes developed during the Cold War...I do think we could destroy the world by pressing just a few buttons, but thats just me. :)
Cooldudeguy6 8 months ago
@TheJay9002 Yeah!!!! Then all the fear will be burnt away.
deanasaurs 7 months ago
@TheJay9002 Meh. Improbable. The most efficient form of energy generation possible is Matter-Antimatter anihhilation. 100% energy conversion ratio, and because you can't create or destroy energy you can't get a bigger explosion-to-mass ratio for a bomb. Even then, it would be practically impossible to destroy the earth, or even cause a mass extinction. You'd need way too much antimatter for it to be feasable, and the research budget would be enormous and pointless.
Ardensfax 6 months ago
@TheJay9002
We already could destroy the world. Mutually assured destruction means that if anyone on the entire world uses a nuke, everyone on the planet dies. It's well within our capabilities.
If you haven't read the book On The Beach, you should.
TheAdmiralPancake 3 months ago
@TheJay9002 Nuclear fusion already has the capability to instantly wipe out the entire planet. The Soviets developed a nuclear bomb that, when detonated north of Russia, shattered windows in Norway, and the bomb was only at half of the strength it was designed to accommodate. Look up Tsar Bomba. It'd be a simple task for scientists to create a bomb that could destroy entire continents.
Hematite1000 3 months ago
O que justifica o terror de uma guerra? Todos temos o direito de existir...as armas nucleares se tornaram um mal necessário para evitar briga de cachorro grande,agora os cachorros menores que se cuidem...ONU com apenas 5 membros permanentes no Conselho de segurança? Cadê a democracia?Melhor perguntar para a China que não usa mascaras....
MarceloConjuntoz 1 year ago
Atom bomb + fascism = pure ignorance²
MarceloConjuntoz 1 year ago
that purple guy indeed encountered a lot of radiation
SMCCOMM 1 year ago
......and then some slimy greaseball jews working on the Manhatten Project handed over to the Russians the secrets that go into making an atomic bomb.
colderbeer 1 year ago
Thanks for nothing Albert Einstein!
Ashamedofmyself 1 year ago
@Ashamedofmyself
early65model 1 year ago
evil fuckin white race
afrikanbadboy 1 year ago
@afrikanbadboy Lol, okay?
Bouncy1988 1 year ago 5
@afrikanbadboy hum k lol , it still taht the evil is fucking powerful and really intelligent XD
Russians , Brits . Americans these guys have nuclear ,
Africans , Arabs , Japs these guys have children with ak-47 and terrorists ...
im fucking proud to be white ^^
WolfSeife 1 year ago
@afrikanbadboy
Yeah right africanboy, like everywhere the black man goes, things just get better. LOLOL.
If it weren't for YT your race would be extinct. It should be.
TheJomogogo 1 year ago
@afrikanbadboy
I cant help being evil.
Its just... my skin.. when I see the colour of it it makes me feel like being evil, next thing I know I'm scheming away again.
BubbleGumNipples 1 year ago 2
@afrikanbadboy Evil fucking racist cunts, pussy ass wouldnt say shit like that in real life, you'll get your ass beat.
DaggersDen 1 year ago
@afrikanbadboy boom
oobietime8 1 year ago
Not so sure they did fail personally. Hitler was aware of Operation Sunrise. Hitler was negotiating for USA to join Germany in it's fight against Bolshevism. When negotiating you have to have some chips to play with. Hitler did not survive, but USA spent billions creating NATO to protect West germany from the Warsaw Pact and Germany provided technology and it's spy network in Russia.
Tazjet100 1 year ago
@Tazjet100 Well, maybe not in that sense, no. But in terms of coming up with the atomic bomb first, we did. That's what I mean't by fail.
Bouncy1988 1 year ago
to dr. edward, well no shit lol. they weren't builing the bomb to end all bombs to scare people. we needed that shit to end those stubborn fuckers.
JoeyCage 1 year ago 3
mass destruction = happy america
MsPicassos 1 year ago
@MsPicassos
America didn't start that shit mspickass, the germans and japs did, so STFU.
If the axis had the bomb first they'd of gleefully dropped them THE FUCK all over europe/asia/america and taken over the world. Where would that leave you, you smug little anti-american twat?
TheJomogogo 1 year ago 3
@MsPicassos
MsPicassos = Pure ignorance
Bouncy1988 1 year ago 12
The first was Rügen island nuclear test in 1944 (Germany) on October12, 1944
lagata789 2 years ago
That's not true. Find some evidence for this (besides neo-nazi or fascist sites) and present it here and I'm sure that I, and other posters, will consider it, but I haven't seen anything remotely credible on the subject.
EpicureMammon 2 years ago 2
Lol, fail... Germany never got the nuclear weaps.. fag...
KilleraDK 2 years ago
@KilleraDK dumbfuck
sparkey989 1 year ago
@lagata789 You need to work on your evidence my friend. Germany never had atomic weapons. It is true that they attempted to develop them, but they never came close due to sabotage and allied bombing
Dawgsbest 1 year ago
@Dawgsbest Germany had a Uranium enrichment plant at Kandern in 1945 and there is a letter from Gerlach to Goering's secretary in Oct 1944 describing good progress on germany's atomic bomb. At Bug, Rugen Is there were test explosions in Oct 1944 and at Ohrdruf in March 1945 more tests, both of which left radioactive contamination which was conclusively not Chernobyl fall out
Tazjet100 1 year ago
@Dawgsbest Also the Soviets captured German military newsreel footage of the Rugen Island test blast and have released it from KGB archives. Both test areas ar still hot with elevated levels of Caesium 137 and there is no trace of contaminents at either site which are known to have accompanied fall out from Chernobyl. USA wrote the history books and kept classified anything contradicting American supremacy with the bomb. Germany was only weeks away in 1945 from a hiroshima sized bomb.
Tazjet100 1 year ago
@Tazjet100 Right... They were close... We were closer. Soo, fail on their part.
Bouncy1988 1 year ago
thanx for posting this :)
PENOZ1990 2 years ago
No Problem :)
Bouncy1988 2 years ago