hindi tlga turture yan.. wala lang yan sa palo ng papa ko.. mahigit pajan..jjajaja..
sa mga NPA nman..kayo tlga oo. wala tlga kayung kadala dala... gumawa nlang kya kayo ng sarili ninyo turture para dinaman kayo mainggit.. ang poblema kc sa inyo puro mga baluktot na paniniwala. tinatawanan lang kayo ng leader ninyo..jajaja. peace!
ang nakita po ninyo, ay kasali po yan sa traning hindi po torture yan.. damn to those who upload this video.. mas sobra pa nga ang ginagawa ninyo kung kayo ang mang torture pinapatay pa.! ito isang magandng halimbawa na dapt isa puso at pagpahalagahan ang sandatahan natin.. sa mga taong nais sirain ang repotasyon lamang.. hindi kau mag wawagi... Panginoon wag nu pong pabayaan ang tagapagtanggol ng bayan...
magiging kriminal nalang ako kysa ganyanin ako ng mga superior ko, d yan training kundi torture,.. Kabubuhan yan kong masasabi nyong training.. Mga Pota
natatakot na tuloy aqng magtraining ng sundalo :))) sana pgka graduate q wlang gntong training =)) tanong ko lang po pano pag give up na habang ngttraining pwde ba yung?
NAPAKALIWANAG NA UNG NAGPOST NANG VIDEONG ITO AY MALINAW NA MAKAKALIWA... ITOY PROPAGANDA LAMANG NILA PARA MAKALIKOM NNAMAN NG SUPORTA SA MGA KAWAWANG PILIPINO NA MALILINLANG NILA SA KANILANG IDEOLOHIYANG MAKABANYAGA NA NAGPAPANGAP NA PARA SA PILIPINO AT MAKABAYAN KUNO.. AT SA PART NG TRAINING SANA WAG NALANG MAGTAKE NG VIDEO O PHOTOS.. AT SA MGA TRAINEES ISAPUSO NIO ANG BAWAT ARAW AT NATUTUTUNAN NIO SA SERBISYONG PINASOK NIO. WAG NA TAYONG MAGYABANGAN AT BUMAWI SA SUMUSUNOD SA ATIN, GOD BLESS
TO ALL WHO COMMENTED TO THIS VIDEO.. SAD TO SAY HINDI ITO MALI, SUBALIT PAGHAHANDA LAMANG PARA SA PANAHON NA MA CAPTURE UNG ISANG SUNDALO HINDI NIA ITATATWA O ISUSUPLONG NG GANUN GANUN LANG ANG KANYANG MGA KASAMA.. AT HIGIT SA LAHAT DITO NIA MASUSUBUKAN UNG TATAG NG KANYANG ISIP SA PANAHON NG KAGIPITAN AT PAGHIHIRAP.. AT SA PAGPASOK SA SUNDALO DAPAT BUO ANG LOOB MO NAPAKA HINANG KLASE MO KUNG GANITO PALANG NAGREREKLAMO KANA, PANU PA PAG NASA KAMAY KANA NG KALABAN BASTA KANALANG BIBIGAY????
kayong nasa taas.....dapat kayo ang magpapatupad ng tamang pamamaraan kahit sa anong angulo.........TORture ang ginagawa ninyo hindi training o pagsasanay para maging mabuting sundalo........
mukhang nature na ng military men ang maging mapang abuso, kitang kita ito nung time na may ROTC pa. lalo na salihan pa ng mga ROTC officers na mga estudyante rin na uhaw sa power at attention. It's too ironic, they keep on teling us people that they are our protector, that they respect the rights of others, and value much their fellow countrymen, such a damn thing, how can you protect your country if you keep on doing this.
so what? they are getting whipped , getting their asses kicked , this shit happens all the time. the only part that seems tortuous is the fact that it seems like they cant escape. im sure they can stop the training if they wanted.. what a waste of time
siguro nga ung iba sa mga nilalatigo nila jan ni hindi pa napagbubuhatan ng kamay ng mga magulang nila eh, tas sila pinagtatawanan nila ung mga reaksyon.
"Hindi ko alam! Hindi ko alam!" "Hindi ko nga alam kasi hindi ko alam kung anong tanong niyo, sabihin niyo muna ang tanung niyo, bakit torture agad?! Magtanong muna kayo!"
@LenBi999 its so clear in this video. na bobohan kaba sa mga tao?? ano ba ang ma improve sa "TRAINING" na to?? edi gago kapala! putang ina mo.. ang military training ay isang exercise to become excellent in combat. eto ba ang "EXCELLENT" sa inyo?? GAGO KA!
@innonni: I certainly agree, theyre just "regular" troops and its actually a good thing that they go thru this hellish training . I could just imagine how is it with our elite troops (FSRR,SWaG, SF, PNP SAF, LRB). It must be really tough. can someone please post a vid of our elite troops "resistance to interrogation" training??
check out training vids of Spetsnaz, Delta, Red Maroons (Turkey) or if you're lucky SAS (John McAleese vids). This so-called "torture vid" is actually child's play in comparison.. So the result of such "brutal" training is a fine fighting machine. If you dont want this sort of training, try joining "Salvation Army" , they'll train you to solicit loose change from commuters..
@skibunnyme Thats the training of a regular soldier. Not SAS, not Delta, not Red Maroons, not Spetsnaz, regular. Private-third-class-general-infantry-of -the-army regular. Not even marines. So that's kind of "brutal" if you ask me.
In a way though, I have to agree with you they have to know the taste of pain so they can "learn" from it.
"the “torture video” was obtained by the NPA in Sorsogon from the cellular phone of Pfc Jason Serdon, who was killed by communist rebels while marketing in the said province. It is now uploaded on Youtube by a group Isnayp.
Col Parlade said that Serdon’s cellphone was recovered from a ranking NPA leader who was killed in an encounter also in Sorsogon last year."
guys check out the uploader's vids, commie yan, may vid din sila ng ambush sa mga pulis. propaganda nila to. training turned 'torture'
@drachirrazalas, perse kaya ko nga sinabi na "ipinagbabawal na nga un" kasi nga HINDI NA PO DAPAT NILANG GINAGAWA UN dahil ipanagbabawal na, kinokondena nga sila dapat dHIL sila mismo hindi nasunod sa patakaran sa loob ng PA, get my point? hindi ko naman sinab un dahil sa naniniwala akong di sila ang kasangkot dito at pinagtatanggol ang mga opisyal na kasangkot sa loob ng vid, kung di dahil ako mismo ay kumokondena sa ginawa nila. sana inunawa mu po ung binasa mu sa unang comment ko.
be the one to understand this. you better join the armed forces to know the essence of it, as a team and as an invidual soldier to be. Sa tradisyon ng isang sundalong mandirigma at sa estbisyementong sumasaklaw dito, kailangan ay respetuhin at intindihin kung bakit may ganito sa paghubog sa kabuuan. God bless the AFP and PNP
These are the reasons why most of the filipinos lost their respect on our leaders and government offices who are paid from our taxes to serve us but instead, they do this... and please observe how these army men are enjoying what they are doing.. While most of us work our butts of and the government deduct taxes for these??? Wow... On the other hand, you can see officials with mansions and SUV's. Those SUV's comes from the people who commute everyday and lives on monthly rent.... SHAME ON YOU!!
this is a training? horrible training. Training how to die??.... on humanitarian thought.... this is cruelty IMHO... After their training... they can get a small amount of salary from the government... These people will say "my training and hardships must pay off.." Then, they do graft and corruption, power tripping and abuse... Its the system we live... Thanks to our leaders who are collaborating with rebels to start a war because of money involve.... KAWAWANG PILIPINAS.. GINAGAGO NG HARAPAN!!!
....ng bawat isa, nakatapos ka man ng pag aaral o hindi siguro naman e marunong tayong magpakatao sa pagbibigay ng mga komento tungkol sa video na eto, irespeto natin ang opinion ng bawat isa mga kaibigan at hindi yong ipinapakita natin ang barbaric attitude ng mga bastos na pinoy......
tandaan lang natin na sa buong mundo iginagalang at nirerespeto ang mga pinoy kaya dito man lang maipakita natin na professionalk tayo sa usapang ganito......salamat po!!
.... at doon sa mga nagko comments Ng mga negatibo, mga kaibigan, melitary training eto< at hindi natin puwedeng sabihin na sobra sobra na eto, yong mag nag comment na hindi ganito ang training ng US military ay nagkakamali kayo, kung hindi man pumarehas e mas masahol pa ang training ng US military kesa sa atin dahil mas advance ang technology nila lalo na sa special forces nila at mga elite forces...... hindi tayo nag aaway away ng dahil lang sa video na eto, inilalabas lang natin opinion
at tingnan mo ang mga salita nila na pare-pareho ang sagot which is, siguradong ginawa lang na ganyan ang pagsagot dahil nga sa "training" nila, please understand properly the real and deep meaning of 'TRAINING, you asshole (mao2275)
para ke mao2275, kung sino ka man, wag mo akong tawaging TANGA dahil baka mas ikaw ang tanga, maging professional ka sa pag gamit ng ganitong site dahil ang pinag uusapan dito ay opinion ng bawat isa at hindi opinion ng grupo o ng pangkalahatan.
palibahasa dika siguro dumaan ng CAT or CMT, at hindi mo rin alam kung ano talaga ang tunay sa hindi tunay na pinaggagawa sa training. at sigurado ako na dika marunong mag obsertba dahil kung marunong ka, alam mo kung paano mag assess ng gaya neto
gnito na vha tlaga ang training ng sundalo ngaun,dpat hndi pananakit qng di sanayin sa pakikidgma sa klaban dvah putang mga NPA yan mas lalo na ang sundalo pareho kau
Alam nyo ba kung anu mali sa video na ito? kung training manto to wla akong pakialam kc kung my respeto ka sa kapwa mo sundalo nde mo to kukuwanan ng video para gawing entertainment ng iba.
The NPA/NDF has also their own training programs, however i suppose theirs is only about half as effective as compared to the Vietcong cadre training program (especially their "Đặc công" or sapper teams). Their training (VC) was reportedly tough, including the mental part, that a VC trouper wouldnt mind eating a dead rat found or stepped on in the jungle. We all know how they whipped the US Army's butt during their war.
I guess the NPA should lessen the "rallies" and focus more on training.
Here is one example of how physical, coupled with the PROPER mental conditioning, can in fact produce tough as nails warriors which is what 99% of armies all over the world (except a few like the Salvation Army) needs in order to win wars :
Check out the vid " Spetsnaz in Bosnia" in ytube You definitely would'nt need "torture" training programs if you plan to work as a Bank Teller or Gardener. (duh) . But for a nation's military, its a different case. I guess we should stop being a pussy...
Here is one example of how physical, coupled with the PROPER mental conditioning, can in fact produce tough as nails warriors which is what 99% of armies all over the world (except a few like the Salvation Army) needs in order to win wars :
Check out the vid " Spetsnaz in Bosnia" in ytube You definitely would'nt need "torture" training programs if you plan to work as a Bank Teller or Gardener. (duh) . But for a nation's military, its a different case. I guess we should stop being a pussy...
By definition a MILITARY training has to be tough and rigid. You cant compare it to other training programs for other industries wherein being "nice" is the norm. The Spartans continued training their troops even way after the Agoge. Hence history can tell about how a fearsome fighting force the Spartans were at that time. Albeit the trainer's were doing their jobs (on the physical part), there was an apparent lack on the psychological preparation part. Or maybe that module wasnt just included.
For those who are naive, this is a MILITARY training...and it is expected to atleast toughen up or harden would-be soldiers in the event of conflict. Its intensity really depends on the training program one country's armed forces have. As compared to 3 of the strongest military forces in the planet (the US, UK and Russia) this exercise is a walk in the park. Try reading about the US Armed forces' "SERE" training program or UK's "Selection" process and you'd know what I mean..
oo na cge training n nga yn, ang tanong ko lng, may kapamilya b n binubogbog at pinahihirapan ng husto pra masabi na mahusay kn nga n sundalo? mdmi nmn bagay ang pwedeng gawin pra maging matatag at mahusay ang isang sundalo, , oo di ako sundalo pero ang alam ko tao din sila,
may pkiramdam, lahat ng bagay pwedeng makasurvive pero di sa ganitong paraan, tibay ng utak at damdamin ang kailangan, hindi sa tibay ng sugat n natamo.
MAGPAPAKAMATAY NA NGA PRA SA BAYAN, PINAHIHIRAPAN PA!!! PEACE
this so called torture is a training. training our soldiers to evade capture by the enemy. because if captured, what they will experience will be far worse than what you see in this video. nasa kawal na yun kung gagawin nya sa mga non-combatants at civilians yung ginawa sa kanya sa training camp.
@skibunnyme i totally agree. and listen to the audio. some of them are screaming "hindi ko po alam, hindi ko po alam". it's a "survive an interrogation"-ish training of some sort. imagine them at real combat, captured by the enemy. someone ought to post a vid like that. can i say taliban?
di tlga mapagkakatwlaan ang mga sundalo ng pilipinas...sa mga nagkokoment nmn d2 na 'nde nmn masakit yan eh" ang masasabi q lng sa inyo GO FUCK UR SELFS...
there is a certain degree of hard training but not on this filthy method... you are not training them to be tough by this method, instead you are training them to be cruel..., so much militarism nakikita kong post ng ibang pros dito? kaya pala angdaming nangyayaring war crimes hanggang ngayon...
no its moral because i think they done something wrong to their commanders and they dont want to point out who's that one.So the consequence if they dont tell who is him they all get punished.
NOTHING WRONG wrong with this!!! They are only a conscripts! So a hard military training with brutal torture is necessary! The recruits will be toughen (and learn what they expect in case of a war if the were captured as POW) and become real men! And the commanders, who torture and drill the recruits, have some fun! Each nation should do this with it's young fit men! In Russia, Brazil and Bolivia they also torture conscripts (very brutal with electro-shocks, brandings etc.)!
GREAT - Good to know the PHILIPPINE ARMY knows how to treat conscripts right! Conscripts around the world should be tortured (sadly not all nations do so). A hard military training with brutal torture is necessary! The recruits will be toughen and become real men! And the commanders, who torture and drill the recruits, have some fun! Each nation should do this with it's young fit men! In Russia, Brazil and Bolivia they also torture conscripts (e.g. with electro-shocks, brandings etc.)!
men who adopt the profession of arms, submit on their "own freewill" to a law of perpetual constraint- wc to the life of army.... thats what we are, thats wht we do! we die for something not to live by nothing... heheh its part of their job..
tawa tawa pa kayo mga walang hiya, to be a good leader you must always look out for the welfare of your men. hindi yung paglaruan mo mga tao mo. nakakahiya kayo! baka nga sa tunay na sitwasyon mga mas bakla pa kayo pwe!
kung ako ang commander ng isang infantry at alam kong may nahuli na mga tauhan o sundalo ko ay kung anoman ang aming original plan ay babaguhin ko. ang isang matalinong lider ay maraming options. hayaan mo na kumanta tao mo sa mga kalaban mo at protektahan mo ang buong kawan na huwag mapahamak. mga tanga talagang mga lider ito!!!!
ito ang imaheng palpak na nangyayari sa hanay ng mga kasundaluhan - di na ako maaawa kung sila man ay pugutan ng mga ulo ng mga kalaban nila - mga walanghiya ang mga tarantadong ito!!!! hayup!!!!!
It's a part of a training emotional,physical,psychological,chemical,biological and etc. warfare. They should be ready if they fall to the hands of the enemies.
its horrible..... the yelling is just like hell, recruits were crying in deep pain and in endless agony, this is a barbaric and in-human.... those trainors should be punished.
@budbongao no duh...ITS CALLED MILITARY TRAINING IDIOT...CANT HANDLE IT?! THEN YOU DONT HAVE WHAT IT TAKES TO BE A SOLDIER...AND THANK GOD YOU ARENT. DAHIL KUNG NANJAN KA NA, BAKA NAG-QUIT KA NA AT NAGSUMBONG SA MAMA MO...BTW, THE TRAINORS UNDERGO THE SAME TRAINING..SO DID THE OFFICERS BEFORE THEM...AND SO WILL THE NEXT GENERATIONS OF SOLDIERS.....MILITARY LIFE IS A LIFE YOU MERE CIVILIANS WILL NEVER UNDERSTAND...
@MarichiPerezHanasan they did undergo the same....go ask the Philippine Military Academy graduates...ask them what kind of brutality they undergo for 3 years inside the academy...everynight may "pass the rank"...i wont tell you what that means because you are just a civilian...MILITARY LIFE IS A LIFE YOU MERE CIVILIANS WILL NEVER UNDERSTAND. THE BURDEN IS ON THE SOLDIERS TO ENDURE THIS KIND OF TRAINING BECAUSE A MILITARY RANK IS A HARD EARNED ENDEAVOR...YOU WILL NEVER UNDERSTAND...
Physical pain is staple in all typres of training. Do a pushup, and your arms will feel pain. But your body adapts and gets stronger. So what's the difference between training and torture? Read again the qualifyers in RA 9745: "obtaining information, coercion, and discrimination".
@mikelogics This video is different from what are you trying to implore because physical pain and suffering acquired by these men are INFLICTED BY ANOTHER PERSON. They are UNDER THE CUSTODY of people SUPERIOR than them. They are DISCRIMINATED based on their status. THERE IS INDEED TORTURE.
Gen. Mabanta and Maj. Cabunoc already admitted that this training is IMPROPER and COUNTER-PRODUCTIVE.
Don't be too silly!
The negative results of this training is gravely disproportionate than the gains.
@mikelogics these elements dont need to be all present. kaya nga may nakalagay "such as" " "or" diba? torture is done if any of your so called "qualifiers" is present.
@mikelogics Hahaha How funny! For you it is not discrimination because the trainees of PA has the same training as the SF and Scout ranger.
For us it is discrimination because all trainees of whatever unit of the military should not undergo this kind of cruel act. We view the tormented men in this video as our co-equals. Because we are the same, we are all HUMAN.
Now which is broader? Who has the broader mindset?
@012kurama I agree on the aspect of physical contact. But we seem do disagree on the rest. This despite my having explained RA 9745 to you. We are looking at the same picture but see things differently. While I do not expect you to understand, let me say this: We are not sadists. We subject ourselves to our limits because we have to. This type of training will save lives. I can cite many cases of soldiers who were captured and had to survive on their wits thanks to this training.
@dipalos if that's ur preparation so long ago as with the past generations of generals and soldiers to fight against the rebels then how come until now they still exist??it is the way torturing humans for peace and prosperity?? how come until now u cant solve the problem with the rebels..
@dipalos Look who is talking? They are soldiers but they are also humans. They are not animals. Ikaw ba tinuturing mo pa ba sarili mo na tao? Ang tao ay may karapatang pantao. Ikaw kung ayaw mo kilalanin yung iyo. Irespeto mo na lang yung karapatang pantao ng iba.
Pati depenisyon ng torture binabaluktot para i-justify. Grabe anung utak meron kayo? Sino magsasabing walang physical infliction at discrimination dito sa video na to. TORTURE to, wag niyo na i-downplay!
@012kurama yeah its TORTURE...so what?! that torturers underwent the same TORTURE before...NO DUH....ITS CALLED MILITARY TRAINING......NOT BASIC MANICURE, PEDICURE COURSE THAT YOU ARE SO ACCUSTOMED TO.......MILITARY LIFE IS SOMETHING YOU BEAUTY PARLOR TAMBAYS WILL NEVER UNDERSTAND......
@dipalos sige ikaw na ang MACHO! OK lang tawagin mo kaming bakla at least hindi PULBURA at DAHAS ang laman ng utak namin. Did you know torture is a Human Rights violation? Kung isa ka sa mga MACHO na nasa video at inaamin mong may torture dito, hinahamon kita pumunta sa CHR o DOJ at doon ka magsalita. PURO KA ANGAS. BAKLANG MACHO!
Tinuturuang maging savage, brutal, beast, butcher ang mga sundalo. Hindi naman makatutol ang mga kawawang sundalo dahil hanapbuhay para sa kanila ang pagsusundalo. Mahirap makakuha ng permanenteng trabaho. Kaya kahit hindi makatao ang trato sa kanila tinitiis nila. Buti kung natitiis lang nila, ang masama kapag nakatapos sila sa training sila naman ang gaganti sa mga trainees at sa sibilyan. Galing ang klase ng pagsasanay na ito sa master ng AFP ang US. Torture din sa Guantamo prison.Gory.
PAG WEAK ANG FOUNDATION MO SA TRAINING MADALI KA MADIDISGRASYA SA SERBISYO!!!!!!!!! DI MO PAHAHALAGAHAN ANG SERBISYO MO KUNG LOUSY ANG TRAINING NA ACQUIRE MO! KUNG PAKIKINGGAN MO MAIGI ANG VIDEO, MAY NAGSASAMBIT NG PANGALAN NG "KUMANDER" AT SUMASAGOT NAMAN ANG MGA PARTICIPANTS NG " WALA PO AKONG ALAM SIR!" . . . ANG SCENARIO AY ISANG PAKSA SA TRAINING O YUNG TINATAWAG NA PROGRAM OF INSTRUCTION (POI) SA BAWAT PAGSASANAY. SA MGA NASA SERBISYO ALAM NILA ANG TERMINOLOGIYA NA "ECHO ECHO".
@naidyer : sakto ka!! eto yung simulation part... patagalan ang pagiging matatag dito... besides di pinaparusahan ang trainee kapag sya'y umiyak habang pinapahirapan.. crying can be used as part of resisting interrogation. umiyak man o hindi, what's really important to the trainers is that these cadets DO NOT break down in the event of coercion/tactical interrogation..
Taena dami talagang wimps dito sa atin.. dala ata sa hilig kay Justin Bieber.
@naidyer : sakto ka!! eto yung simulation part... patagalan ang pagiging matatag dito... besides di pinaparusahan ang trainee kapag sya'y umiyak habang pinapahirapan.. crying can be used as part of resisting interrogation. umiyak man o hindi, what's really important to the trainers is that these cadets DO NOT break down in the event of coercion/tactical interrogation..
Taena dami talagang wimps dito sa atin.. dala ata sa hilig kay Justin Bieber.
AKALA NG MGA NPA EFFECTIVE ANG VIDEO NILA . . . . .MAS BARBARIC PA KAYO KUNG TUTUUSIN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! KATULAD NLANG NG MGA PULIS NA INAMBUSH NYO SA SAMAR. KILLED TREACHEROUSLY, DI PA NAKUNTENTO SINUNOG PA ANG MOBILE PATI MGA BANGKAY NG MGA RUMESPONDENG PULIS AT ANG IBA AY BINIYAK PA ANG TIYAN!!!!!!!!!!! DAPAT SA INYO KAYO ANG BITAYIN SA CHINA AT IPAKIN SA MGA BUWAYA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Yung mga mang-mang sa military training comment lang ng comment dito. . . mag training kasi kayo para malaman nyo!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Di nyo ba naisip na kung torture nga ito eh di sana wala na tayong mga sundalo sa Pilipinas mga BOBO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
This training was already scrapped because it is COUNTERPRODUCTIVE as said by the military itself. The MILITARY itself said so.
There are better ways of training people. The abuse and unnecessary torture do not produce the intended result that is why the AFP today is looking into a more scientific and better means of developing ordinary men to soldiers.
@MrImperfect0777 The only reason this was scrapped was because there was clear evidence of body contact. During our time in SFOC, it was 4 days of sleep deprivation, crawling in mud, immersion in freezing water and other 'mental' stuff I'm not allowed to say. It was handled professionally. It was extremely tough, BUT NO BODY CONTACT. I didn't like it, but neither do I regret having experienced it.
@mikelogics That's exactly my point sir. No body contact. No torture. Without physical abuse inflicted by trainors, trainees could focus more on pushing beyond their endurance and not on the pain of hazing.
@MrImperfect0777 Yes, as a general policy, body contact is forbidden in training. But even without physical contact, the training is still hard. Watch the video, and imagine that this is their fourth day without sleep minus the physical contact. Ganun pa rin ang kalabasan. Every single discomfort is magnified. On the third day, you begin hallucinating. But before you react, let me say it's still part of training. It will test your stability under pressure.
@mikelogics Body contact is a torture but it is not limited to that. Sleep deprivation and all you've said here is a form of torture. Please read, respect and understand RA 9745 and the UN Convention Against Torture (CAT).
All of the people here who claimed that they are MACHO because they endured this kind of infliction should understand that they should not and need not to undergo this kind of treatment.
@012kurama RA 9745 defines torture as: "Torture" refers to an act by which severe pain or suffering, whether physical or mental, is intentionally inflicted on a person FOR SUCH PURPOSES AS OBTAINING FROM HIM/HER OR A THIRD PERSON INFORMATION OR A CONFESSION;
Ergo, (- body contact) it is no longer torture. If no confession to be obtained. Not a form of punishment. and it is not based on discrimination. It is training! No different from Manny Paquiao recieving 1,000 taps with a stick.
@mikelogics Thanks for reading RA9745 but please don't distort what is written in the law to justify your inhumane act. Torture as defined in Sec.3(a) as:
1. severe pain or suffering, whether physical or mental, is intentionally inflicted on a person. (It is clear that this element is present in the video).
You failed to include this sir:
2. for any reason based on discrimination of any kind. (Discrimination is defined as unfair treatment of a person or group on the basis of prejudice)
@012kurama Take note of these qualifying statements of torture in RA 9745: "obtaining information, coercion, and discrimination". These torture qualifyers are absent in the context of training.
Ok, let us now define military training: The process which intends to establish and improve the capabilities of military personnel. You see, the difference is in the objective. It's not about being macho. The last thing we want is for our soldiers to fail under pressure.
You discriminate your trainees in this video. Requiring them to undergo this kind of training based on their rank or status in the military is a form of discrimination. These trainees still have the same right as the ordinary civilians. They submit themselves to the AFP but that doesn't mean that their superiors have the authority to harm and subject them to inhuman treatment.
@012kurama YEAH, YOU GO TELL PRESIDENT PNOY TO END THIS KIND OF TRAINING. WELL SEE....IF THE ABU-SAYAFF, AL-QAIDA OR JAMAL ISLAMIYA CAPTURES OUR SOLDIERS, EXPECT THEM TO CRY LIKE BABIES BECAUSE YOU WANT TO TRAIN THEM LIKE BABIES..........STUPID HIGH SCHOOL KID.....YOU WILL NEVER UNDERSTAND THE LIFE IN MILITARY.....MILITARY IS ABOUT WAR, KILLING, TORTURE, SUFFERING, PAIN......WHO EVER SAID ITS ABOUT COTTONCANDY, MANICURE AND LITTLE PINK TEA CUPS...........
@dipalos Well, ganito na lang, para tapos ang Issue. ATTENTION: Parents, Friends, Human Rights Advocates to include Trainees affected, Lodge a formal complaint at Commission on Human Rights, AFP Human Rights Desk and AFP Provost Marshal General. Let them decide on the issue of TORTURE, HRV, etc. then inform Mr Mike Enriquez and Mr Erwin Tulfo on the matter. kailangan ng Media para hindi tulugan. TURO INI NG FREIND FO RETIRED AIR FORCE.. ha ha ha....
ANONG HINDE MU ALAM ALAM MU YAN.
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MrReje457 2 weeks ago
hindi tlga turture yan.. wala lang yan sa palo ng papa ko.. mahigit pajan..jjajaja..
sa mga NPA nman..kayo tlga oo. wala tlga kayung kadala dala... gumawa nlang kya kayo ng sarili ninyo turture para dinaman kayo mainggit.. ang poblema kc sa inyo puro mga baluktot na paniniwala. tinatawanan lang kayo ng leader ninyo..jajaja. peace!
jelle1704 3 weeks ago
ang nakita po ninyo, ay kasali po yan sa traning hindi po torture yan.. damn to those who upload this video.. mas sobra pa nga ang ginagawa ninyo kung kayo ang mang torture pinapatay pa.! ito isang magandng halimbawa na dapt isa puso at pagpahalagahan ang sandatahan natin.. sa mga taong nais sirain ang repotasyon lamang.. hindi kau mag wawagi... Panginoon wag nu pong pabayaan ang tagapagtanggol ng bayan...
mariaangelle 3 weeks ago
Wala naman po akong nakitang dumugo, nabasag ang mukha, nabalian or kung anupa.
ivandelafuente 1 month ago
magiging kriminal nalang ako kysa ganyanin ako ng mga superior ko, d yan training kundi torture,.. Kabubuhan yan kong masasabi nyong training.. Mga Pota
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TheServiceWeb 1 month ago in playlist Uploaded videos
wow.'nice
mai karma rin an mga gumawa nyan
marchilleable 1 month ago
bading ata itong mga training n ito.. lalakas ng sigaw..
ladz113 2 months ago
ang OA,,, bilang isang tao na nakaranas na ng mas matindi dito,,, korni nito,,, benefits;loyalty:downside;physical injuries
elgritton 3 months ago
@lesbiansruletheking
gooks? Wrong country..
faztclix 3 months ago
edi ikaw na macho atapang n tao .. join k nga ng 100times
hotkizer24 4 months ago
HINDI KO ALAMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM
jericpo 4 months ago
natatakot na tuloy aqng magtraining ng sundalo :))) sana pgka graduate q wlang gntong training =)) tanong ko lang po pano pag give up na habang ngttraining pwde ba yung?
accountniharold2 4 months ago
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armhanjoy04 4 months ago
only the tough and brave survive...
PATRICIOPAKPAK 5 months ago
only the tough and brave survive...
PATRICIOPAKPAK 5 months ago
NAPAKALIWANAG NA UNG NAGPOST NANG VIDEONG ITO AY MALINAW NA MAKAKALIWA... ITOY PROPAGANDA LAMANG NILA PARA MAKALIKOM NNAMAN NG SUPORTA SA MGA KAWAWANG PILIPINO NA MALILINLANG NILA SA KANILANG IDEOLOHIYANG MAKABANYAGA NA NAGPAPANGAP NA PARA SA PILIPINO AT MAKABAYAN KUNO.. AT SA PART NG TRAINING SANA WAG NALANG MAGTAKE NG VIDEO O PHOTOS.. AT SA MGA TRAINEES ISAPUSO NIO ANG BAWAT ARAW AT NATUTUTUNAN NIO SA SERBISYONG PINASOK NIO. WAG NA TAYONG MAGYABANGAN AT BUMAWI SA SUMUSUNOD SA ATIN, GOD BLESS
deathstalker1100 5 months ago in playlist Military FAIL 3
TO ALL WHO COMMENTED TO THIS VIDEO.. SAD TO SAY HINDI ITO MALI, SUBALIT PAGHAHANDA LAMANG PARA SA PANAHON NA MA CAPTURE UNG ISANG SUNDALO HINDI NIA ITATATWA O ISUSUPLONG NG GANUN GANUN LANG ANG KANYANG MGA KASAMA.. AT HIGIT SA LAHAT DITO NIA MASUSUBUKAN UNG TATAG NG KANYANG ISIP SA PANAHON NG KAGIPITAN AT PAGHIHIRAP.. AT SA PAGPASOK SA SUNDALO DAPAT BUO ANG LOOB MO NAPAKA HINANG KLASE MO KUNG GANITO PALANG NAGREREKLAMO KANA, PANU PA PAG NASA KAMAY KANA NG KALABAN BASTA KANALANG BIBIGAY????
deathstalker1100 5 months ago in playlist Military FAIL 2
kayong nasa taas.....dapat kayo ang magpapatupad ng tamang pamamaraan kahit sa anong angulo.........TORture ang ginagawa ninyo hindi training o pagsasanay para maging mabuting sundalo........
junglelito 5 months ago
WHAT THE FUCK?!?!
Spawnproductions1 5 months ago
DPOGA!
Spawnproductions1 5 months ago
This is so INHUMANE.
AssaundrellYumerai 5 months ago
putang ina nio mga gago kaya mga bugok kayo eh.. sino pa gaganahan mag join ng army kung gnyan dn lng nmn sasapitin mga puke yata kau ee
hotkizer24 5 months ago
@hotkizer24 bading ang di maka join dito
PATRICIOPAKPAK 5 months ago
pag naging sundalo na ang mga ito sigurado babawi naman sila sa sibilyan....
pangandamon 5 months ago
sick mutha fuckers thier turn will come
TOMIYAMO 5 months ago
mukhang nature na ng military men ang maging mapang abuso, kitang kita ito nung time na may ROTC pa. lalo na salihan pa ng mga ROTC officers na mga estudyante rin na uhaw sa power at attention. It's too ironic, they keep on teling us people that they are our protector, that they respect the rights of others, and value much their fellow countrymen, such a damn thing, how can you protect your country if you keep on doing this.
takuyaki2 6 months ago
Mga putang ina nYO Sana maUboS anG mGa laHI nYo Mga GAGO........
rasthouze1993 6 months ago
This is fucking stupid, man. How is this supposed to make them tougher?
kascle 7 months ago
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kholdfire11 6 months ago
Communist NPA infiltrators took this vid to discredit the guys kicking their assess.
bbaaaalll 7 months ago
so what? they are getting whipped , getting their asses kicked , this shit happens all the time. the only part that seems tortuous is the fact that it seems like they cant escape. im sure they can stop the training if they wanted.. what a waste of time
Destiny4Travail 7 months ago
Grabe namn to :|
malas naman nung mga new recruits...
, answerte nung mga sundal :\
siguro nga ung iba sa mga nilalatigo nila jan ni hindi pa napagbubuhatan ng kamay ng mga magulang nila eh, tas sila pinagtatawanan nila ung mga reaksyon.
sheenaneehs 7 months ago
dpat ireport sa imbestigador
kay mike bente kwatro
june2011now 8 months ago
dpat ireport sa imbestigador
kay mike
june2011now 8 months ago
dapat patayin ang mga karapatan..........
flyleaf760 8 months ago
lol fannies
MrGoldfish1984 8 months ago
"Hindi ko alam! Hindi ko alam!" "Hindi ko nga alam kasi hindi ko alam kung anong tanong niyo, sabihin niyo muna ang tanung niyo, bakit torture agad?! Magtanong muna kayo!"
kapatid01 9 months ago 2
@LenBi999 its so clear in this video. na bobohan kaba sa mga tao?? ano ba ang ma improve sa "TRAINING" na to?? edi gago kapala! putang ina mo.. ang military training ay isang exercise to become excellent in combat. eto ba ang "EXCELLENT" sa inyo?? GAGO KA!
jinnlee 9 months ago
For the idiots on here saying that the U.S Military does this a fucking lie. U.S Military Vet
easyway2001 9 months ago
TORTURE NA BA ANG TAWAG NYO DIYAN? PUTANG INA, WALA PA YAN SA KALINGKINGAN NG GINAWA SA AKIN NG TATAY KO.
novelonuda 9 months ago 7
@novelonuda hahahahah
june2011now 8 months ago
@novelonuda hahahaha
boylatigo102 1 month ago
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prepztah23 9 months ago
@innonni: I certainly agree, theyre just "regular" troops and its actually a good thing that they go thru this hellish training . I could just imagine how is it with our elite troops (FSRR,SWaG, SF, PNP SAF, LRB). It must be really tough. can someone please post a vid of our elite troops "resistance to interrogation" training??
skibunnyme 9 months ago
And I thought SERE and Ranger school was bad.
IzzyShooter 9 months ago
check out training vids of Spetsnaz, Delta, Red Maroons (Turkey) or if you're lucky SAS (John McAleese vids). This so-called "torture vid" is actually child's play in comparison.. So the result of such "brutal" training is a fine fighting machine. If you dont want this sort of training, try joining "Salvation Army" , they'll train you to solicit loose change from commuters..
skibunnyme 9 months ago
@skibunnyme Thats the training of a regular soldier. Not SAS, not Delta, not Red Maroons, not Spetsnaz, regular. Private-third-class-general-infantry-of -the-army regular. Not even marines. So that's kind of "brutal" if you ask me.
In a way though, I have to agree with you they have to know the taste of pain so they can "learn" from it.
innonni 9 months ago
phillippines is not a peaceful place in manila so pullute i request to kill all bad policein philippines pinoy people is a loser
AnimaIPlanetTV 10 months ago
@AnimaIPlanetTV That is their training bitch
lilmandz14 9 months ago
survival yan... how can u survive if u cant beat the pain of torture...
07yhong 10 months ago
di ko yan makakalimutan sa training ko dati muntik na mabali isang paa ko tang inang 1Lt na yan..
tolitzpoako 10 months ago
WHAT A FUCK
WHY PPL STILL LOVE TO DO THAT?
WHY WE STILL CANNT LIVE IN PEACE?
GODDAMN
MrBlackBow 10 months ago
"the “torture video” was obtained by the NPA in Sorsogon from the cellular phone of Pfc Jason Serdon, who was killed by communist rebels while marketing in the said province. It is now uploaded on Youtube by a group Isnayp.
Col Parlade said that Serdon’s cellphone was recovered from a ranking NPA leader who was killed in an encounter also in Sorsogon last year."
guys check out the uploader's vids, commie yan, may vid din sila ng ambush sa mga pulis. propaganda nila to. training turned 'torture'
drachirrazalas 10 months ago
@drachirrazalas, perse kaya ko nga sinabi na "ipinagbabawal na nga un" kasi nga HINDI NA PO DAPAT NILANG GINAGAWA UN dahil ipanagbabawal na, kinokondena nga sila dapat dHIL sila mismo hindi nasunod sa patakaran sa loob ng PA, get my point? hindi ko naman sinab un dahil sa naniniwala akong di sila ang kasangkot dito at pinagtatanggol ang mga opisyal na kasangkot sa loob ng vid, kung di dahil ako mismo ay kumokondena sa ginawa nila. sana inunawa mu po ung binasa mu sa unang comment ko.
theberriesofjoy 10 months ago
be the one to understand this. you better join the armed forces to know the essence of it, as a team and as an invidual soldier to be. Sa tradisyon ng isang sundalong mandirigma at sa estbisyementong sumasaklaw dito, kailangan ay respetuhin at intindihin kung bakit may ganito sa paghubog sa kabuuan. God bless the AFP and PNP
khonxpinoy 10 months ago 2
These are the reasons why most of the filipinos lost their respect on our leaders and government offices who are paid from our taxes to serve us but instead, they do this... and please observe how these army men are enjoying what they are doing.. While most of us work our butts of and the government deduct taxes for these??? Wow... On the other hand, you can see officials with mansions and SUV's. Those SUV's comes from the people who commute everyday and lives on monthly rent.... SHAME ON YOU!!
michaelduquemorales 10 months ago
this is a training? horrible training. Training how to die??.... on humanitarian thought.... this is cruelty IMHO... After their training... they can get a small amount of salary from the government... These people will say "my training and hardships must pay off.." Then, they do graft and corruption, power tripping and abuse... Its the system we live... Thanks to our leaders who are collaborating with rebels to start a war because of money involve.... KAWAWANG PILIPINAS.. GINAGAGO NG HARAPAN!!!
michaelduquemorales 10 months ago
training nga.. pak. ungas yung mga nagsabing toture..
mas grabe pa nung sumali ako ng US marines... aarte niyo... lol
joanna0820 10 months ago
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bulakenyo22 10 months ago
....ng bawat isa, nakatapos ka man ng pag aaral o hindi siguro naman e marunong tayong magpakatao sa pagbibigay ng mga komento tungkol sa video na eto, irespeto natin ang opinion ng bawat isa mga kaibigan at hindi yong ipinapakita natin ang barbaric attitude ng mga bastos na pinoy......
tandaan lang natin na sa buong mundo iginagalang at nirerespeto ang mga pinoy kaya dito man lang maipakita natin na professionalk tayo sa usapang ganito......salamat po!!
pinkpanther545 10 months ago
.... at doon sa mga nagko comments Ng mga negatibo, mga kaibigan, melitary training eto< at hindi natin puwedeng sabihin na sobra sobra na eto, yong mag nag comment na hindi ganito ang training ng US military ay nagkakamali kayo, kung hindi man pumarehas e mas masahol pa ang training ng US military kesa sa atin dahil mas advance ang technology nila lalo na sa special forces nila at mga elite forces...... hindi tayo nag aaway away ng dahil lang sa video na eto, inilalabas lang natin opinion
pinkpanther545 10 months ago
at tingnan mo ang mga salita nila na pare-pareho ang sagot which is, siguradong ginawa lang na ganyan ang pagsagot dahil nga sa "training" nila, please understand properly the real and deep meaning of 'TRAINING, you asshole (mao2275)
pinkpanther545 10 months ago
para ke mao2275, kung sino ka man, wag mo akong tawaging TANGA dahil baka mas ikaw ang tanga, maging professional ka sa pag gamit ng ganitong site dahil ang pinag uusapan dito ay opinion ng bawat isa at hindi opinion ng grupo o ng pangkalahatan.
palibahasa dika siguro dumaan ng CAT or CMT, at hindi mo rin alam kung ano talaga ang tunay sa hindi tunay na pinaggagawa sa training. at sigurado ako na dika marunong mag obsertba dahil kung marunong ka, alam mo kung paano mag assess ng gaya neto
pinkpanther545 10 months ago
gnito na vha tlaga ang training ng sundalo ngaun,dpat hndi pananakit qng di sanayin sa pakikidgma sa klaban dvah putang mga NPA yan mas lalo na ang sundalo pareho kau
nobles20 10 months ago
Alam nyo ba kung anu mali sa video na ito? kung training manto to wla akong pakialam kc kung my respeto ka sa kapwa mo sundalo nde mo to kukuwanan ng video para gawing entertainment ng iba.
pacboxing 10 months ago
@pacboxing Nagbabasa ka ba ng description?
LittleBoyKarlo 10 months ago
@LittleBoyKarlo oo nagbabasa ako.... bkt sa tingin mo yung kumuha ng video na ito mismo ang nagupload ng video na ito dito...???? mgicp icp ka nga
pacboxing 10 months ago
The NPA/NDF has also their own training programs, however i suppose theirs is only about half as effective as compared to the Vietcong cadre training program (especially their "Đặc công" or sapper teams). Their training (VC) was reportedly tough, including the mental part, that a VC trouper wouldnt mind eating a dead rat found or stepped on in the jungle. We all know how they whipped the US Army's butt during their war.
I guess the NPA should lessen the "rallies" and focus more on training.
skibunnyme 10 months ago
Here is one example of how physical, coupled with the PROPER mental conditioning, can in fact produce tough as nails warriors which is what 99% of armies all over the world (except a few like the Salvation Army) needs in order to win wars :
Check out the vid " Spetsnaz in Bosnia" in ytube You definitely would'nt need "torture" training programs if you plan to work as a Bank Teller or Gardener. (duh) . But for a nation's military, its a different case. I guess we should stop being a pussy...
skibunnyme 10 months ago
Here is one example of how physical, coupled with the PROPER mental conditioning, can in fact produce tough as nails warriors which is what 99% of armies all over the world (except a few like the Salvation Army) needs in order to win wars :
Check out the vid " Spetsnaz in Bosnia" in ytube You definitely would'nt need "torture" training programs if you plan to work as a Bank Teller or Gardener. (duh) . But for a nation's military, its a different case. I guess we should stop being a pussy...
skibunnyme 10 months ago
By definition a MILITARY training has to be tough and rigid. You cant compare it to other training programs for other industries wherein being "nice" is the norm. The Spartans continued training their troops even way after the Agoge. Hence history can tell about how a fearsome fighting force the Spartans were at that time. Albeit the trainer's were doing their jobs (on the physical part), there was an apparent lack on the psychological preparation part. Or maybe that module wasnt just included.
skibunnyme 10 months ago
For those who are naive, this is a MILITARY training...and it is expected to atleast toughen up or harden would-be soldiers in the event of conflict. Its intensity really depends on the training program one country's armed forces have. As compared to 3 of the strongest military forces in the planet (the US, UK and Russia) this exercise is a walk in the park. Try reading about the US Armed forces' "SERE" training program or UK's "Selection" process and you'd know what I mean..
skibunnyme 10 months ago
Well.. clearly we can say that this sort of training is essential considering the kind of world we live in today
skibunnyme 10 months ago
Well, I guess this type of training can be considered essential, considering the world we live in nowadays..
skibunnyme 10 months ago
Well, I guess this type of training can be considered essential, considering the world we live in nowadays..
skibunnyme 10 months ago
Well, I guess this type of training can be considered essential, considering the world we live in nowadays..
skibunnyme 10 months ago
puta.. training b na maayos yan?
23beermen 10 months ago
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they are all over acting...
namrepusmt 10 months ago
oo na cge training n nga yn, ang tanong ko lng, may kapamilya b n binubogbog at pinahihirapan ng husto pra masabi na mahusay kn nga n sundalo? mdmi nmn bagay ang pwedeng gawin pra maging matatag at mahusay ang isang sundalo, , oo di ako sundalo pero ang alam ko tao din sila,
may pkiramdam, lahat ng bagay pwedeng makasurvive pero di sa ganitong paraan, tibay ng utak at damdamin ang kailangan, hindi sa tibay ng sugat n natamo.
MAGPAPAKAMATAY NA NGA PRA SA BAYAN, PINAHIHIRAPAN PA!!! PEACE
mikeskie12 10 months ago
human rights violation? hindi naman sapilitan mag join sa military, pwede naman mag quit eh kung hindi na kaya, pinili nila yan
layout2008 11 months ago
kasama talaga yan sa training! may mas masaklap pa nga jan eh! pinapalo yan kasi matitigas ang ulo. may nagawa yang kasalanan kaya pinaparusahan.
MegaLhes 11 months ago
HUMAN RIGHTS IS GAY.
jjslipknot 11 months ago
astig mga taeng to....
donsky489 11 months ago
parang di naman makatao training nyo... sobra naman po....
mrpinkbutterflies143 11 months ago
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pinikpikan tawag dito.. kahit d ako sundalo at babae ako naiintindihan ko to..
myxiane 11 months ago
AFP most corrupt. siguro pag may survey kung sinong pinaka-barbaric AFP din ang no.1 haaaay ano na nangyari sa mga kasundalohan natin.
012kurama 11 months ago
torture na ito hindi na ito training!!
deltarex101 11 months ago
what is the purpose then of the posting of this video if this is a part of the training
plerkxon 11 months ago
Pinikpikan! wahahaha..... mas matindi pa dyan sa TANAY!..
chanorigs1968 11 months ago
astig ng video
plerkxon 11 months ago
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yeoj803 11 months ago
this so called torture is a training. training our soldiers to evade capture by the enemy. because if captured, what they will experience will be far worse than what you see in this video. nasa kawal na yun kung gagawin nya sa mga non-combatants at civilians yung ginawa sa kanya sa training camp.
RoGR7769 11 months ago
@RoGR7769 I agree, although this is only a miniscule part of the SERE training program the US Forces use in their training..
skibunnyme 10 months ago
@skibunnyme i totally agree. and listen to the audio. some of them are screaming "hindi ko po alam, hindi ko po alam". it's a "survive an interrogation"-ish training of some sort. imagine them at real combat, captured by the enemy. someone ought to post a vid like that. can i say taliban?
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kowaknett 11 months ago
habang umiiyak sa sakit ung mga trainee
maririnig mo na humahalakhak ang mga putang ina
keithdylan 11 months ago
di tlga mapagkakatwlaan ang mga sundalo ng pilipinas...sa mga nagkokoment nmn d2 na 'nde nmn masakit yan eh" ang masasabi q lng sa inyo GO FUCK UR SELFS...
keithdylan 11 months ago
there is a certain degree of hard training but not on this filthy method... you are not training them to be tough by this method, instead you are training them to be cruel..., so much militarism nakikita kong post ng ibang pros dito? kaya pala angdaming nangyayaring war crimes hanggang ngayon...
manongmevs 11 months ago 4
no its moral because i think they done something wrong to their commanders and they dont want to point out who's that one.So the consequence if they dont tell who is him they all get punished.
vanfly04 11 months ago
Di naman brutal eh... balita talaga napaka bais! mas grabe pa nga hazing ng PMA eh...
AbaIssachar 11 months ago
mga demonyo
kambalyabakez 11 months ago
grabe
ang sasama nmn
kambalyabakez 11 months ago
This is an not good atitude. Torturing trainee is a human rights violation against applicants.
mansorbatabol 11 months ago
This is an Evel work. Torturing trainee is a human rights violation against applicants.
mansorbatabol 11 months ago
This is not the meaning of brotherhood
pacboxing 11 months ago
"The is all part and parcel of their jobs" a line from Military Professionalism by Charles De Gaulle
airbornesniper24 11 months ago
masama man tignan pero kasama talaga yan sa buhay sundalo.
juna666 11 months ago
astig na training to.. saludo ako sa inyo. conditioning sa kung anuman ang maaring mangyari in the future
wentottz 11 months ago
NOTHING WRONG wrong with this!!! They are only a conscripts! So a hard military training with brutal torture is necessary! The recruits will be toughen (and learn what they expect in case of a war if the were captured as POW) and become real men! And the commanders, who torture and drill the recruits, have some fun! Each nation should do this with it's young fit men! In Russia, Brazil and Bolivia they also torture conscripts (very brutal with electro-shocks, brandings etc.)!
MachoWorker 11 months ago
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GREAT - Good to know the PHILIPPINE ARMY knows how to treat conscripts right! Conscripts around the world should be tortured (sadly not all nations do so). A hard military training with brutal torture is necessary! The recruits will be toughen and become real men! And the commanders, who torture and drill the recruits, have some fun! Each nation should do this with it's young fit men! In Russia, Brazil and Bolivia they also torture conscripts (e.g. with electro-shocks, brandings etc.)!
MachoWorker 11 months ago
men who adopt the profession of arms, submit on their "own freewill" to a law of perpetual constraint- wc to the life of army.... thats what we are, thats wht we do! we die for something not to live by nothing... heheh its part of their job..
pintakasi51 11 months ago
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pintakasi51 11 months ago
para sa bayan..para sa army..
hoping to be one of those guys!!
i salute all of you guys..
esp. scout rangers!!
"we strike"
kim04170 11 months ago
@kim04170 : Same here. Coming from a family of Filipino soldiers..
skibunnyme 10 months ago
@kim04170 : Same here. Coming from a family of Filipino soldiers..
skibunnyme 10 months ago
kung gusto nyo makita ung tunay na torture..apply kayo sa army..din proceed to scout ranger..yun..dun nyo makkita..
kim04170 11 months ago
what is behind the plastic curtain at the back.....we are only shown what they want us to see....maybe,,,,, it is even worst!!!!!!
akopercy 11 months ago
hmp.. torture na ba yan?
phobiatic1 11 months ago
tawa tawa pa kayo mga walang hiya, to be a good leader you must always look out for the welfare of your men. hindi yung paglaruan mo mga tao mo. nakakahiya kayo! baka nga sa tunay na sitwasyon mga mas bakla pa kayo pwe!
yutanyoeh 11 months ago
Sir Yes Sir ... Mga BAKLA ... Nagpapakalalaki pero BAKLA ang ugali ... wahaha ...
fojcnathan 11 months ago
Fail propaganda of the communist, it did backfired LOL
jerrycrus 11 months ago
kung ako ang commander ng isang infantry at alam kong may nahuli na mga tauhan o sundalo ko ay kung anoman ang aming original plan ay babaguhin ko. ang isang matalinong lider ay maraming options. hayaan mo na kumanta tao mo sa mga kalaban mo at protektahan mo ang buong kawan na huwag mapahamak. mga tanga talagang mga lider ito!!!!
HRMapuan 11 months ago
ito ang imaheng palpak na nangyayari sa hanay ng mga kasundaluhan - di na ako maaawa kung sila man ay pugutan ng mga ulo ng mga kalaban nila - mga walanghiya ang mga tarantadong ito!!!! hayup!!!!!
HRMapuan 11 months ago
It's a part of a training emotional,physical,psychological,chemical,biological and etc. warfare. They should be ready if they fall to the hands of the enemies.
MrBoyclinton 11 months ago
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lakambinikunimitsu 11 months ago
its horrible..... the yelling is just like hell, recruits were crying in deep pain and in endless agony, this is a barbaric and in-human.... those trainors should be punished.
budbongao 11 months ago
@budbongao no duh...ITS CALLED MILITARY TRAINING IDIOT...CANT HANDLE IT?! THEN YOU DONT HAVE WHAT IT TAKES TO BE A SOLDIER...AND THANK GOD YOU ARENT. DAHIL KUNG NANJAN KA NA, BAKA NAG-QUIT KA NA AT NAGSUMBONG SA MAMA MO...BTW, THE TRAINORS UNDERGO THE SAME TRAINING..SO DID THE OFFICERS BEFORE THEM...AND SO WILL THE NEXT GENERATIONS OF SOLDIERS.....MILITARY LIFE IS A LIFE YOU MERE CIVILIANS WILL NEVER UNDERSTAND...
dipalos 11 months ago
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MarichiPerezHanasan 11 months ago
@MarichiPerezHanasan they did undergo the same....go ask the Philippine Military Academy graduates...ask them what kind of brutality they undergo for 3 years inside the academy...everynight may "pass the rank"...i wont tell you what that means because you are just a civilian...MILITARY LIFE IS A LIFE YOU MERE CIVILIANS WILL NEVER UNDERSTAND. THE BURDEN IS ON THE SOLDIERS TO ENDURE THIS KIND OF TRAINING BECAUSE A MILITARY RANK IS A HARD EARNED ENDEAVOR...YOU WILL NEVER UNDERSTAND...
dipalos 11 months ago
wag sanang mangyari to sa boyfriend kong nagbabalak magsundalo..:'(
missemszie23 11 months ago
kya wla nang tiwala ang mga pilipino pti n mga dayuhan s militar eh puro kagaguhan at kahayupan ang alam
dsfbjskg 11 months ago
mga ulol! sibak kayong lahat ngayon!
jonathanofcrestview 11 months ago
Physical pain is staple in all typres of training. Do a pushup, and your arms will feel pain. But your body adapts and gets stronger. So what's the difference between training and torture? Read again the qualifyers in RA 9745: "obtaining information, coercion, and discrimination".
mikelogics 11 months ago
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012kurama 11 months ago
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@mikelogics This video is different from what are you trying to implore because physical pain and suffering acquired by these men are INFLICTED BY ANOTHER PERSON. They are UNDER THE CUSTODY of people SUPERIOR than them. They are DISCRIMINATED based on their status. THERE IS INDEED TORTURE.
Gen. Mabanta and Maj. Cabunoc already admitted that this training is IMPROPER and COUNTER-PRODUCTIVE.
Don't be too silly!
The negative results of this training is gravely disproportionate than the gains.
012kurama 11 months ago
@mikelogics these elements dont need to be all present. kaya nga may nakalagay "such as" " "or" diba? torture is done if any of your so called "qualifiers" is present.
012kurama 11 months ago
That is not discrimination. In the Special Forces and Scout Ranger Course, the officers and enlisted undergo the same training!
mikelogics 11 months ago
@mikelogics Hahaha How funny! For you it is not discrimination because the trainees of PA has the same training as the SF and Scout ranger.
For us it is discrimination because all trainees of whatever unit of the military should not undergo this kind of cruel act. We view the tormented men in this video as our co-equals. Because we are the same, we are all HUMAN.
Now which is broader? Who has the broader mindset?
012kurama 11 months ago
@012kurama I agree on the aspect of physical contact. But we seem do disagree on the rest. This despite my having explained RA 9745 to you. We are looking at the same picture but see things differently. While I do not expect you to understand, let me say this: We are not sadists. We subject ourselves to our limits because we have to. This type of training will save lives. I can cite many cases of soldiers who were captured and had to survive on their wits thanks to this training.
mikelogics 11 months ago
@012kurama BOBO...THESE ARE SOLDIERS...THEYRE NOT BABIES.....HAHAHAHAH...STUPID.....
dipalos 11 months ago
@dipalos if that's ur preparation so long ago as with the past generations of generals and soldiers to fight against the rebels then how come until now they still exist??it is the way torturing humans for peace and prosperity?? how come until now u cant solve the problem with the rebels..
reesh0819 11 months ago
@dipalos Look who is talking? They are soldiers but they are also humans. They are not animals. Ikaw ba tinuturing mo pa ba sarili mo na tao? Ang tao ay may karapatang pantao. Ikaw kung ayaw mo kilalanin yung iyo. Irespeto mo na lang yung karapatang pantao ng iba.
012kurama 11 months ago
Pati depenisyon ng torture binabaluktot para i-justify. Grabe anung utak meron kayo? Sino magsasabing walang physical infliction at discrimination dito sa video na to. TORTURE to, wag niyo na i-downplay!
012kurama 11 months ago
@012kurama yeah its TORTURE...so what?! that torturers underwent the same TORTURE before...NO DUH....ITS CALLED MILITARY TRAINING......NOT BASIC MANICURE, PEDICURE COURSE THAT YOU ARE SO ACCUSTOMED TO.......MILITARY LIFE IS SOMETHING YOU BEAUTY PARLOR TAMBAYS WILL NEVER UNDERSTAND......
dipalos 11 months ago
@dipalos sige ikaw na ang MACHO! OK lang tawagin mo kaming bakla at least hindi PULBURA at DAHAS ang laman ng utak namin. Did you know torture is a Human Rights violation? Kung isa ka sa mga MACHO na nasa video at inaamin mong may torture dito, hinahamon kita pumunta sa CHR o DOJ at doon ka magsalita. PURO KA ANGAS. BAKLANG MACHO!
012kurama 11 months ago
@012kurama bakla pala ha! alika dito KEKEMBYULARIN kita magdamag...i hope macho ka rin!
dipalos 10 months ago
Tinuturuang maging savage, brutal, beast, butcher ang mga sundalo. Hindi naman makatutol ang mga kawawang sundalo dahil hanapbuhay para sa kanila ang pagsusundalo. Mahirap makakuha ng permanenteng trabaho. Kaya kahit hindi makatao ang trato sa kanila tinitiis nila. Buti kung natitiis lang nila, ang masama kapag nakatapos sila sa training sila naman ang gaganti sa mga trainees at sa sibilyan. Galing ang klase ng pagsasanay na ito sa master ng AFP ang US. Torture din sa Guantamo prison.Gory.
ebonystump 11 months ago
MIND SETTING ITO SA MGA SUNDALO NA MAGIGING PRISONER OF WAR (POW) KUNG SAKALI MAN NA SILA AY MABIHAG. . . .
naidyer 11 months ago
PAG WEAK ANG FOUNDATION MO SA TRAINING MADALI KA MADIDISGRASYA SA SERBISYO!!!!!!!!! DI MO PAHAHALAGAHAN ANG SERBISYO MO KUNG LOUSY ANG TRAINING NA ACQUIRE MO! KUNG PAKIKINGGAN MO MAIGI ANG VIDEO, MAY NAGSASAMBIT NG PANGALAN NG "KUMANDER" AT SUMASAGOT NAMAN ANG MGA PARTICIPANTS NG " WALA PO AKONG ALAM SIR!" . . . ANG SCENARIO AY ISANG PAKSA SA TRAINING O YUNG TINATAWAG NA PROGRAM OF INSTRUCTION (POI) SA BAWAT PAGSASANAY. SA MGA NASA SERBISYO ALAM NILA ANG TERMINOLOGIYA NA "ECHO ECHO".
naidyer 11 months ago
@naidyer : sakto ka!! eto yung simulation part... patagalan ang pagiging matatag dito... besides di pinaparusahan ang trainee kapag sya'y umiyak habang pinapahirapan.. crying can be used as part of resisting interrogation. umiyak man o hindi, what's really important to the trainers is that these cadets DO NOT break down in the event of coercion/tactical interrogation..
Taena dami talagang wimps dito sa atin.. dala ata sa hilig kay Justin Bieber.
skibunnyme 10 months ago
@naidyer : sakto ka!! eto yung simulation part... patagalan ang pagiging matatag dito... besides di pinaparusahan ang trainee kapag sya'y umiyak habang pinapahirapan.. crying can be used as part of resisting interrogation. umiyak man o hindi, what's really important to the trainers is that these cadets DO NOT break down in the event of coercion/tactical interrogation..
Taena dami talagang wimps dito sa atin.. dala ata sa hilig kay Justin Bieber.
skibunnyme 10 months ago
AKALA NG MGA NPA EFFECTIVE ANG VIDEO NILA . . . . .MAS BARBARIC PA KAYO KUNG TUTUUSIN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! KATULAD NLANG NG MGA PULIS NA INAMBUSH NYO SA SAMAR. KILLED TREACHEROUSLY, DI PA NAKUNTENTO SINUNOG PA ANG MOBILE PATI MGA BANGKAY NG MGA RUMESPONDENG PULIS AT ANG IBA AY BINIYAK PA ANG TIYAN!!!!!!!!!!! DAPAT SA INYO KAYO ANG BITAYIN SA CHINA AT IPAKIN SA MGA BUWAYA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
naidyer 11 months ago
Yung mga mang-mang sa military training comment lang ng comment dito. . . mag training kasi kayo para malaman nyo!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Di nyo ba naisip na kung torture nga ito eh di sana wala na tayong mga sundalo sa Pilipinas mga BOBO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
naidyer 11 months ago
This training was already scrapped because it is COUNTERPRODUCTIVE as said by the military itself. The MILITARY itself said so.
There are better ways of training people. The abuse and unnecessary torture do not produce the intended result that is why the AFP today is looking into a more scientific and better means of developing ordinary men to soldiers.
MrImperfect0777 11 months ago
@MrImperfect0777 The only reason this was scrapped was because there was clear evidence of body contact. During our time in SFOC, it was 4 days of sleep deprivation, crawling in mud, immersion in freezing water and other 'mental' stuff I'm not allowed to say. It was handled professionally. It was extremely tough, BUT NO BODY CONTACT. I didn't like it, but neither do I regret having experienced it.
mikelogics 11 months ago
@mikelogics That's exactly my point sir. No body contact. No torture. Without physical abuse inflicted by trainors, trainees could focus more on pushing beyond their endurance and not on the pain of hazing.
MrImperfect0777 11 months ago
@MrImperfect0777 Yes, as a general policy, body contact is forbidden in training. But even without physical contact, the training is still hard. Watch the video, and imagine that this is their fourth day without sleep minus the physical contact. Ganun pa rin ang kalabasan. Every single discomfort is magnified. On the third day, you begin hallucinating. But before you react, let me say it's still part of training. It will test your stability under pressure.
mikelogics 11 months ago
@mikelogics Body contact is a torture but it is not limited to that. Sleep deprivation and all you've said here is a form of torture. Please read, respect and understand RA 9745 and the UN Convention Against Torture (CAT).
All of the people here who claimed that they are MACHO because they endured this kind of infliction should understand that they should not and need not to undergo this kind of treatment.
012kurama 11 months ago
@012kurama RA 9745 defines torture as: "Torture" refers to an act by which severe pain or suffering, whether physical or mental, is intentionally inflicted on a person FOR SUCH PURPOSES AS OBTAINING FROM HIM/HER OR A THIRD PERSON INFORMATION OR A CONFESSION;
Ergo, (- body contact) it is no longer torture. If no confession to be obtained. Not a form of punishment. and it is not based on discrimination. It is training! No different from Manny Paquiao recieving 1,000 taps with a stick.
mikelogics 11 months ago
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@mikelogics Thanks for reading RA9745 but please don't distort what is written in the law to justify your inhumane act. Torture as defined in Sec.3(a) as:
1. severe pain or suffering, whether physical or mental, is intentionally inflicted on a person. (It is clear that this element is present in the video).
You failed to include this sir:
2. for any reason based on discrimination of any kind. (Discrimination is defined as unfair treatment of a person or group on the basis of prejudice)
012kurama 11 months ago
@mikelogics its been applied to civilian, military is military, they are no longer a civilian,
dorsky2378 11 months ago
@012kurama Take note of these qualifying statements of torture in RA 9745: "obtaining information, coercion, and discrimination". These torture qualifyers are absent in the context of training.
Ok, let us now define military training: The process which intends to establish and improve the capabilities of military personnel. You see, the difference is in the objective. It's not about being macho. The last thing we want is for our soldiers to fail under pressure.
mikelogics 11 months ago
You discriminate your trainees in this video. Requiring them to undergo this kind of training based on their rank or status in the military is a form of discrimination. These trainees still have the same right as the ordinary civilians. They submit themselves to the AFP but that doesn't mean that their superiors have the authority to harm and subject them to inhuman treatment.
012kurama 11 months ago
@012kurama YEAH, YOU GO TELL PRESIDENT PNOY TO END THIS KIND OF TRAINING. WELL SEE....IF THE ABU-SAYAFF, AL-QAIDA OR JAMAL ISLAMIYA CAPTURES OUR SOLDIERS, EXPECT THEM TO CRY LIKE BABIES BECAUSE YOU WANT TO TRAIN THEM LIKE BABIES..........STUPID HIGH SCHOOL KID.....YOU WILL NEVER UNDERSTAND THE LIFE IN MILITARY.....MILITARY IS ABOUT WAR, KILLING, TORTURE, SUFFERING, PAIN......WHO EVER SAID ITS ABOUT COTTONCANDY, MANICURE AND LITTLE PINK TEA CUPS...........
dipalos 11 months ago
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reesh0819 11 months ago
@dipalos Well, ganito na lang, para tapos ang Issue. ATTENTION: Parents, Friends, Human Rights Advocates to include Trainees affected, Lodge a formal complaint at Commission on Human Rights, AFP Human Rights Desk and AFP Provost Marshal General. Let them decide on the issue of TORTURE, HRV, etc. then inform Mr Mike Enriquez and Mr Erwin Tulfo on the matter. kailangan ng Media para hindi tulugan. TURO INI NG FREIND FO RETIRED AIR FORCE.. ha ha ha....
iceheart2622 11 months ago