Pineal Gland 101: Mysteries of the Pineal Gland

[LucidityOfReality]

If this documentry is accurate, then why does the Government put Sodium Flouride in the water supply ?, Sodium Flouride attacks the Pineal Gland amongst other things.

[braxtonhuff]

study (adam kadmom kabbalah) and (murkaba), the tree of life( which are 4 stacked on top of each other) equals the for gospels,( mathew,mark,luke and john in order going up vertically) the star of david fits into the center of the tree of life and is jacobs ladder, the 4 outer points of the tetrahedron touch the outer seferos( 4) and as the star of david rises you reach higher spiritual awarenesses, weman practice kundalini yogo with is a primary contributer

[mrwhiterain69]

@4ricky444

I tend to agree with this theory. Google sensory deprivation. If you block out your senses, your sixth sense opens and you start to lose track of time and see things. What if death is the ultimate sensory deprivation and in conjunction with dmt secretion is the afterlife itself.

[matrixfoxtard]

What about acid flash backs? Or that is permanent damage I gotta live with.

[franny231123DMT]

@matrixfoxtard largely a myth propagated by similar science as "reefer madness" presented

acid doesnt damage anything hehehe. it allows you to create new synapse in ur brain. if they remain in yourself, there must be a part of your consciousness that wants it to do so. kinda like how a chronically depressed person keeps creating their reality to prolong the depression ;) connections

[eilzed]

generate your own by vocalization... exhale the word LOVE... hang on the V.. enjoy the ride!

[SuperZekethefreak]

Since he was so interested in empirical science I am wondering when he will start filming in total darkness those who are taking DMT or other 'mind-opening' drugs or even meditating, and seeing if the Pineal gland produces measurable light, and what kind of light it is. What if they are taking too much DMT and burning out their gland? What if the goal was to master a steadyflow DMT output so one can die without being enchained to what seems to be an illusion? Asha & Druj's, its an old story.

[79hyperwave]

This has nothing of the physiology of the endocrine system, nor the function of the pineal gland (melatonin) and it's regulation of the rhythms of homeostasis. Go pick up a basic college level anatomy and physiology textbook and try some reading. DMT nonsense. It is called melatonin.

[heraze]

So, life, is just a disorder in the perfection.

[stevelikesmetal]

i was listening to tools aenima on youtube and came here... How did that happen? haha:)

[AliceNchainz011]

@stevelikesmetal cuz u followed that link that staindfan posted...plus this isnt totally irrelevant, since Tool are into eastern philosophy and such. I'm sure you heard their song "Third Eye"

[stevelikesmetal]

@AliceNchainz011 Yeah im a huge tool fan lol :)

[just13lazed]

so our body is just a temporary home for our consciousness?

[Budney420]

@just13lazed You got it.

[henf5671]

pineal gland + big bang singularity + quantum mechanics + general relativity (black holes) + energy + M-theory + our reality = HYPER-REALITY!!!! end of story!!! It doesn't matter whether or not a god exists. What matters is that everything is interconnected in the quantum level of reality!!!

[Quazire]

WOW guitarplayer that is very deep and very true . i would have never looked at it that way . THANKS

[MIDNAq1LINK]

People always say dreaming feels so real. Our consciousness must be transported into this other reality because there is no way dreams can be how they are. I've experienced a lucid dream I can never forget. It was just so real and I was aware of everything. Anyone who experiences a state of consciousness apart from the physical world would know that this is the boundary.

[olie4054]

It makes so much sense. That spooks me too, DMT being released to make you sleep, I think we get very close to where we go when we die when we sleep, just a thought :P

[tracks910]

REAL BLACK HISTORY!!!!!!!!!

WAKE UP MELENINITES

[tracks910]

REAL BLACK HISTORY!!!!!!!!!

[4ricky444]

maybe the release of DMT before death creates a massive life long trip in only a matter of minutes which creates the illusion of an afterlife? just maybe

[liquidbokii88]

@4ricky444 very possible. good thought.

[henf5671]

@4ricky444 Or perhaps our life long trip in this reality is a dream within a hyper-reality. When we die our "consciousness" and energy will be transported into another dimension and into a trans-dimensional body so to speak. Maybe our "death" is a commencement into a hyper-reality.

[brettymike]

@4ricky444 I would say ,try some and think again

Then study NDE ,and think again.

Your spirit is split in 2 (while you are alive on DMT ).

[SuperZekethefreak]

@4ricky444 That is precisely what Jesus said in the Apocryphon of John. He also said that by mastering the light within we can avoid the dying-dream and gain true immortality. 

[bongeye420]

@4ricky444 very interesting idea, thanks for sharing.

[franny231123DMT]

@4ricky444 yeah thats right ... alternative realities explored during psychedelic experiences are all just illusion, not reality. oh, but hang on, all reality is just illusion. hahahaha nice way to make a point that can be made about absolutely anything at all in this universe ;)

[guitarplayer407]

The brain doesn't create consciousness, the brain receives it.

[delainesArt]

wow! amazing

[azelavoinotna51759]

PINEAL : ....OF THE NATURE OF YEARNING...OF LONGING....OF DISIRING EARNESTLY !!.......OF THE NATURE OF WISHING FOR.....OF REQUESTING FOR....OF ASKING FOR !!.....IT IS THE ABODE OF THE PRIMAL POWER OF WILLING !! HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

[videocruzer]

the pineal gland was shown to respond to the UVB frequency with bioluminescences.

[XxMetalManxX]

It would seem to me that these studies are biased by a presupposition...I think these DMT release and hallucinogenic experience that separates itself from consciousness is a manifestation of the shadow, if you ask me. Read Carl Jung's work, and you'll understand what I mean. Either way you could encounter something beautiful or horrific, depending on what you keep inside your shadow. Psychology and the brain are parallel, and if the pineal gland is a part of the brain it wouldn't surprise me.

[psford1]

All of this extremely interesting. I have been 'suffering' from isolated sleep paralysis since I was a kid. back then I didnt know what it was but I felt as if it was something not of this world. Recently when I experience it I notice a vibration in my head and intense pressure. I have awoken from a dream into one after passing through a tunnel of some sort at high speed. When i awoke all I could move were my eyes, I tried to close them and could still see EVERYTHING - pineal gland?

[arson519]

@psford1

sounds like astral projection

[chelsearayl]

cool

[Danman429]

My pineal gland is going crazy rite now, whaddo i do?

[Bumblybee256]

Why are they automatically linked hallucinogenic experiences to 'other realms'? It's still based in the brain, it's not supernatural.

[mjt1517]

@Bumblybee256 It's an interface. A connecting link to the immaterial part of us...and that part does experience 'other realms'.

[Bumblybee256]

@mjt1517 According to what evidence?

[mjt1517]

@Bumblybee256 Sorry mate...these kinds of things don't appeal to or work for those entranced by the Enlightenment. Not everything in reality can be seen or measured. And some things you have to believe BEFORE you can see. Go back to your regularly scheduled program and don't worry about any of this. You're right. Nothing to see here.

[Bumblybee256]

@mjt1517 Chill. First of all, whether it appeals to you or not is immaterial to whether it is true or not. Secondly, you will need to back up the claims you are making- there is plenty of evidence that everything you experienced is a representation by your brain, what evidence do you have that 'another realm' exists which is not created by your brain. All I'm asking for is evidence and if you look down on that you look down on everything else science has given you- like the computer you're using

[mjt1517]

@Bumblybee256 Bullshit. I can believe in higher orders of reality AND use a computer. I'm all for science, but deny that it or its findings are the sum total of reality. And I don't need to prove anything to you. All you have to do is meditate. Commit to it for a year. Think of it as an experiment. Tell me what you find after a solid year of earnest meditation.

[Bumblybee256]

@mjt1517 Erm no. You can't smirk at the scientific method used to give you things liek modern technology and medicine when it suggests something you don't like. ffs- I'm not asking you to prove yourself all I'm asking for is some evidence- which, if what you say is actually based in reality, shouldn't be this difficult. Sounds like just another construct of your own brain.

I have meditated, it's great for relaxing.

[mjt1517]

@Bumblybee256 I have no problem with the scientific method. But it's not the final word. It cannot detect spiritual reality, so it's inadequate. And scientific method has nothing whatsoever to say about higher orders or reality. Since it's blind to them, I ignore fellows like you, Hitchens, and whatever other atheist you can pull out of a hat. If you' re meditating JUST for relaxation, you're missing a greater glory. Aim for that and tell me what you find in a year. Otherwise, we're done here.

[Bumblybee256]

@mjt1517 It happens to be the best we have. Perhaps if you could actually define what you mean by 'higher orders'..............

Er no- I don't know who you think you are to demand actions from strangers over the internet but you have nothing whatsoever to back yourself up with ......so what you are saying is purely personal opinion with no substance.

[mjt1517]

@Bumblybee256 Well, suit yourself, friend. If you're content to see only what the Enlightenment says is there, then go on with your bad self. You're probably right. ;)

[Bumblybee256]

@mjt1517 Lol, see.....that is arrogance parading as humility, yet again. You are suggesting that the 'enlightenment' preaches what it knows to a series of followers and they lap it up. That's not the case, it's about questioning. Why should your claims about 'higher orders' etc etc not be questioned along with everything else?

[mjt1517]

@Bumblybee256 Who says I have to be humble about these things? The Enlightenment provides no rules or guidance for our character. You're expecting things your point of view doesn't require. And it certainly has followers. Any naturalist who doesn't question the very premise of strict naturalism is just as much an adherent of faith as I am. And I question the validity of naturalism. Don't get mad, bro. I just believe differently than you.

[Bumblybee256]

@mjt1517 1. I'm not a bro. 2. Science has nothing to do with 'belief'.

I never said science gave you guidance for your character, but it's hardly appropriate for you to be anything but humble in light of the fact you don't know anymore than anyone else. You have just as much evidence for your 'higher order' stuff as the scientologists do for their Xenu nonsense so how do you pick what mumbo jumbo to believe?

Of course I've questioned science, that's inherent in science.

[mjt1517]

@Bumblybee256 Humility has its place, but so does boldness. I told you how to find out. Meditate regularly over an extended period of time. You'll see. :) But, if you can't be bothered, then sorry, sis. It's kind of a closed club. You have to believe before you can see. But don't worry...just live your life. I'm sure it'll be swell.

[Bumblybee256]

@mjt1517 Er no..............you told me to meditate. Really- what have you to be bold about? Boldness is for people breaking the mould who are also able to back up what they are saying. That's how humanity has advanced. It has advanced to people listening to people who make crap up because it's appealing to them or because they want to feel profound.

Lol and yes, I'm sure you feel very exclusive in your smug little 'club', meanwhile I'll be doing something worthwhile.

[mjt1517]

@Bumblybee256 Go on with your bad self. I'll applaud your every move. :)

[Bumblybee256]

@mjt1517 and I'm sure you'll continue to benefit from the people you look down on.

[mjt1517]

@Bumblybee256 That's quite a leap.

[Bumblybee256]

@mjt1517 If you actually sat and thought about what you say for a while you'd realise it isn't.

[mjt1517]

@Bumblybee256 It actually is. I haven't looked down on anyone. Sorry pal.

[Bumblybee256]

@mjt1517 You're looking down on the scientific method, or that's the impression you're giving. I suspect it's merely insecurity.

[mjt1517]

@Bumblybee256 I like the scientific method just fine. But it's only adequate for things in the natural world. It is INADEQUATE for things dealing with spiritual reality. And whose feelings get hurt when I look down on (however this is even possible) on a METHOD? Do you have a personal, emotional, vested interest in the scientific method? Or are you detached and dispassionate regarding it? It's a non-entity. You accused me of looking down on PEOPLE, btw. Stop equivocating.

[Bumblybee256]

@mjt1517 I think my original point was that there is no such thing. Phenomena that you talk about can be explained by chemicals in the brain. No, I have a personal, emotional investment in the truth- which is what the scientific method is dedicated (and effective) in discovering. You characterised me as somebody who 'believes' in this. 

[niamh2739]

@lelia72 LOL : )

[niamh2739]

@lelia72 Quite possibly, However some people that have been so called "brain dead" for a prolonged period of time ...what of them? Even with"vegetable" patients with little to no brain function that have been in comas, to later come out and describe their experiences what of them? the body would not be able to support full brain function without showing some potential on an EEG so how would they explain theirs?

[Bumblybee256]

@niamh2739 Give us some cases.

[niamh2739]

@Bumblybee256

I am not sure what it is that you want from me? I mean do you want specific patient names & case studies so you can pick apart & analyse every aspect of each patients different condition / circumstance? Because that would be against HIPPA regulations & completely unethical. If you want though you can research published studies & stories in books & analyse that / decide for yourself. I mean this is pretty basic A&P knowledge common sence. Pineal gland regulates melatonin, EEG's

[Bumblybee256]

@niamh2739 I'm pretty sure case studies are not against regulations. I've been through a few, thanks, I was asking for the ones you were talking about.

[niamh2739]

@Bumblybee256

Uh guess what case studies are still private unless consent is given signed and the studies are published and I cant speak of my patients personal info because of HIPPA. Do your homework & stop trying to act like a know it all dirk !

[Bumblybee256]

@niamh2739 How would you know about case studies unless they were published anyway? No need for the name calling, it's a simple request. Lol your patients, sure. You definately sound professional (not). What is it, psychic lifecoaching?

[niamh2739]

@Bumblybee256

enterpriate measureable & discernable brain waves. It would stand to reason that if patients stating that they had certain experiences while clinically dead or brain dead & the EEG shows Little to no brain wave activity, & even if the neuro chems are causing halucinations or not it would still require a certain amount of brain function & communication via neurons in order to process such vivid halucinations, in several parts of the brain which would in turn come up on an EEG or

[Bumblybee256]

@niamh2739 An EEG is not infallible, nor does it have no limitations.

'Near death experiences' have been reproduced in pilots during training when they are spun very fast to mimic physiological changes during flight- often they pass out due to lack of oxygen to the brain and report the same things- a 'tunnel', feeling an out of body sensation, bright lights etc etc

[niamh2739]

@Bumblybee256

I never said that it was infallible or that it didnt have limitations on the contrary I specifically stated that perhaps something other than waves are being emitted & therefore do not show up on EEG's, therefore an EEG would be pretty useless.However, you should know that the range of accuracy on an EEG is pretty high so don't jump to impromptu conclusions based on inaccurate & unfounded assumtions.

[niamh2739]

@Bumblybee256

and as for your pilot theory there are so many holes in that story it looks like swiss cheese ! Look ...I came on here watched the video replyed to a comment or two, based on basic anatomy & physiology principals and my personal educated hypothesis. If you don't like it then you do not have to read it, reply to it, or even deal with it in any way. So I would appreciate it if you would stop messaging me now,I do not wish to further this discussion with you any further.

[Bumblybee256]

@niamh2739 It's not a theory, it's a real experiment that took place that you should know about. I messaged you once, dear, with a simple request. You're the one who spammed my email inbox with all kinds of pseudoscientific babble.

[niamh2739]

@Bumblybee256

even and MRI W/ GAD would show several areas of brain function. So how do you explain that? Look trust me when I tell you I am a very scietific minded person as are the majority in medicine but there are occasions when we find ourselves trying to rationalize things that ARE known to be scientifically not possible & completley dismiss any alternative theories because they sound crazy but the fact is that we all don't know. That is science's fatal flaw though... the concept of

[Bumblybee256]

@niamh2739 If you were a very 'scientific minded person you'd realise that just because some phenomena aren't explainable in all their detail now, does not make them supernatural. Additionally- to say the things you say with such confidence kind of requires a knowledge of brain imaging techniques. Do you have any experience in neurosci/cognitive neurosci?

[niamh2739]

@Bumblybee256

I never said that the causes or reasons behind these phenomena are in fact super natural what I did say was that anything is possible & I whole heartedly agree with sherlock Holmes's quote. I so think that some things are just not explainable now but perhaps will be in the future but many things that are scientific to us now where deemed rediculous theories and down right impossible things back in the day so how is that any different. Look to each his/her own but I do not agree

[niamh2739]

@Bumblybee256

with the narrowmindedness and un exceptance of alternate theories in science, even when there is much evidence to support certain theories, scientists would'nt dare come out with something that would support such a theory, they would be a laughing stock and would probably loose more than they would have to gain. So many studies and such are deemed pseudo science when in fact science is just science.

And yes I do have a "experience" in neuro sci if you consider a minor in neuro

[Bumblybee256]

@niamh2739 This illustrates just how little you know about science.Science is about questioning and testing- in what way narrowminded?

[niamh2739]

@Bumblybee256

science & a major in Physiology for my Bachelors as "experience" oh & my persuing graduate studies in Medicine minoring in Physics besides my many years in medicine, hum... I would have to go with YES : ). all of which by the way involves extensive training in psychology in almost all its forms, & quite alot of knowledge of the neuro system which happens to be my fav & specialty of choice. I do have training but I do not know it all, nor do I pretend to have all of the answers

[niamh2739]

@Bumblybee256

reveals itself in the slight details we are able to perceive with our frail and feeble mind."

"All religions, arts and sciences are branches of the same tree." "Science without religion is lame, religion without science is blind" "Whoever undertakes to set himself up as a judge of Truth and Knowledge is shipwrecked by the laughter of the Gods." 'That deep emotional conviction of the presence of a superior reasoning power,

[niamh2739]

@Bumblybee256

which is revealed in the incomprehensible universe, forms my idea of God. " "Logic will get you from A to B. Imagination will take you everywhere." " There comes a time when the mind takes a higher plane of knowledge but can never prove how it got there.""The true sign of intelligence is not knowledge but imagination." " The only real valuable thing is intuition." " We cannot solve our problems with the same thinking we used when we created them."

Einstein was a wise man.

[Bumblybee256]

@niamh2739 Einstein was also an atheist. Imagination is not a way to know things- there comes a time when truth actually matters and not just what appeals to you.

[niamh2739]

@Bumblybee256

Einstein was NOT an atheist ! He believed in god, just not the same way as christians or most organized religions do. He even states as much in several of his quotes.

[Bumblybee256]

@niamh2739 He called the unexplainable 'god'. It's a bit misleading to say he believed in god.

[niamh2739]

@Bumblybee256

I could sit here all day and quote him but that would be unproductive : ) so I will give you a few other quotes from great minds, & I will leave you to your thoughts.

"when you have eliminated the impossible, whatever remains, however improbable, must be the truth!" - Sherlock Holmes

Science can purify religion from error & superstition;

religion can purify science from idolatry & false absolutes.

Each can draw the other into a wider world,

[Bumblybee256]

@niamh2739 Lol Idolatry? That's a religious concept with no meaning outside religion. Science has no need to be cleansed of idolatry.

[niamh2739]

@Bumblybee256

I never said science had to be "cleansed" that sounds like a euphamism for religious fanatism which I most definately do not associate or identify with. You missed the entire point of the quote anyways.

[niamh2739]

@Bumblybee256

a world in which both can flourish.

We need each other to be what we must be, what we are called to be." (-Pope John Paul II)

"Light is both WAVE-LIKE & PARTICLE-LIKE. (Physicist Niels Bohr)

Life is BOTH, AND:

STRUCTURED LOGIC (logos, left brain) and MEANINGFUL STORY (mythos, right brain)

Truth is both OBJECTIVE & SUBJECTIVE

God is both IMMANENT & TRANSCENDENT.

SCIENCE complements RELIGION, belief or spirituality" (Physicist, Paul H. Carr)

[niamh2739]

@Bumblybee256

"Science and religion are two windows that people look through,

trying to understand the big universe outside, trying to understand

why we are here. The two windows give different views, but both look

out at the same universe. Both views are one-sided, neither is

complete. Both leave out essential features of the real world. And

both are worthy of respect."  ( Physicist Freeman Dyson)

[niamh2739]

@Bumblybee256

ok and finally my take on things, I have come to never tottally dismiss anything , for all things are possible and NOTHING is impossible. If a person is brain dead or pretty much there and eventually wakes up and has a fantastic tale of vivd afterlife experiences well then for the most part I will believe that it is true an every one experience differs. because guess what something wa going on while so few or no

[Bumblybee256]

@niamh2739 Why are you quoting all this? It seems completely pointless to the discussion.

[niamh2739]

@Bumblybee256

If you can't get the reasons why I quoted them then apparently it was pointless. Just forget it.

[niamh2739]

@Bumblybee256

EEG waves where showing up so just because I can't explain why does not mean that it is any less true or possible. And remember as I stated before if they where in fact hallucinating it would show up not only on blood work but also on an MRI & on and EEG because it takes a certain amount of brain function to hallucinate. Allin all I think that it's all a matter of perception. what we percieve has everything to do with our own realities. It could also just be that perhaps once in

[Bumblybee256]

@niamh2739 Only that we know of. If you think we know everything about how the brain functions you'd be mistaken. What we PERCEIVE is based in the BRAIN.

Have you no case studies of fully brain dead people who came back to life with experiences of consciousness? Not just dead, brain dead?

[niamh2739]

@Bumblybee256

I do not understand why you keep screwing up what I actually said. Maby you misunderstood what I posted? But I have said several times that we DO NOT KNOW EVERYTHING. I never said otherwise

[niamh2739]

@Bumblybee256

the mind brain is in a certain state that it triggers the mind to change frequencies of sort..like from waves to something else, kind of like light travels in both waves and particles. I suppose that it is possible that the mind "energy" has a defensive mechanism that switches once the brain "the battery or containment vessel" has been injured or traumatized. I don't know but again anything is possible

[Bumblybee256]

@niamh2739 First of all 'mind brain' is a useless term since your mind IS your brain. Everything that followed that was babble with nothing behind it.

[niamh2739]

@Bumblybee256 Thats like saying thinking IS your brain...thinking IS NOT your brain but, it does happen there.

If you want to believe that they are one and the same then you go right ahead thinking that. I believe that Mind and brain while together are seperate. I am a descartes-fan and rationalists when it comes to this and you can be what ever you want but I don't wish to continue this discussion with you any more. Thanks

[Bumblybee256]

@niamh2739 What else could that have meant? The mind is the brain working as a whole.

I thought you probably did, that's why I doubt all the qualifications you posted. Explain Phineas Gage if you think the mind and brain are separate. Explain the effects of biological disease on the mind. And yeah, I also thought you'd become defensive.

[MrKoolip]

@Bumblybee256, Ever heard about the Endocrain System,Hypothalamus,

most mental diesease are just a chemical inbalence in the body.

[Bumblybee256]

@MrKoolip Yes, I've heard of them. And.......?

[crowbar0404]

@niamh2739 You are assuming the EEG has the full potential to pick up pineal gland energies-energy that is extremely spiritual, by nature. It is a technical piece of equipment-picking up physical energy. You understand?Tthe medical field=it has no connection to the spirit-world not is it enlightened in any way. It has no consciencousness, as the EEG machine would need, as well.

[niamh2739]

I want to join the study!

[AcePilot2009]

The pineal gland secrets melatonin (DMT) and is associated with dreams and sleep cycles. Schizophrenics suffer from sleep dysfunction and hallucinations.

Be careful!

[niamh2739]

@AcePilot2009 Yes circadian Rythms but schizophrencs also suffer from other neuro chemical inbalances. Melatonin is a hormone and the pineal glend is an endocrine gland. It has an affect on the schiz but is not the cause

[fairandjustified]

@AcePilot2009 SLEEP DISFUNCTION DON'T YA MEAN YOU BEGIN TO LIVE PROPERLY HOW YOU WHERE SUPPOSED TO AND IT MAKES IT DIFFICULT TO SLEEP BECAUSE YOUR NOT USED TO IT, AS SOON AS YOUR BODY BEGINS TO ADJUST YOUR SLEEP PATTERNS MOST LIKELY WILL RETURN.

OR THE NEW ONES WILL BE BETTER AS YOU WILL BE MORE IN TUNE WITH YOUR DNA, AND HAVE A BETTER UNDERSTANDING OF YOUR INNER BEING.

BE MORE CONNECTED WITH MOTHER NATURE AND INTUNE WITH YOUR MIND AND THE HIGHER PLAIN OF EXISTANCE

[AllAboutTheInternet]

very nice im gonna start meditating know! thanks for this upload! :)