Medjugorje Sun Miracle Part 2 of 3

[SuckMyKiss420]

thats just god gettin his groove on at the disco

[elenaeffe1]

is a sun dog: is an atmospheric phenomenon that creates bright spots of light in the sky, often on a luminous ring or halo on either side of the sun. (wikipedia)

[DimON650]

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[scottandildi]

You can call atmospheric anomolies miracles if you like. I don't believe that God would use cheap parlor tricks to to try to get poeple's attention. He speaks in whispers in the human heart He doesn't dazzle with magic shows. If you knew God this would be obvious to you. Primitive people are easily distracted by physical displays which amaze but true Spirituality goes way beyond such nonsense to transform the mind and soul and create a whole new person in Yeshua Ha'Mashiach also known as Jesus.

[916suns]

The Merriam-Webster dictionary definition of "miracle" is defined as,1: An extraordinary event manifesting divine intervention in human affairs. 2: An extremely outstanding or unusual event, thing, or accomplishment. & 3: Christian Science : a divinely natural phenomenon experienced humanly as the fulfillment of spiritual law.

According to the definition of a "miracle" one may tend to lean towards looking at "this event in Medjugorje" as "miracle". Unless one disagrees with the human language.

[YouAreLost2]

I'm sorry but... where is the miracle in this exactly?!... God gracious, is amazing how so many people still live in the Middle Ages...

[XxKaReNxX2kaii8]

Nothing is impossible for God. God in His mercy allows these signs. They are a wakeup call for us. God is saying 'look I am here, why are you all ignoring me. I love you. come back to me before it is too late'

[YouAreLost2]

@XxKaReNxX2kaii8 What sign?!

[916suns]

Very Beautiful, The only people who would say something negative would be those who do not understand who the Holy Queen is. She is the Queen and Great Mother! Bless her! (much love to those who love the The Lord Christ and Holy Queen).

[YouAreLost2]

@916suns That is a very ellitist thing to say. I'm a Catholic, a cathequist actually, I have a profound devotion towards Our Lady and I definately don't believe this.

[916suns]

@YouAreLost2 I don't believe that anyone is better than anyone else. I am not a Catholic, nor am I an ellitist. According to most, I most likely will be burning in flames for eternity, since I was born Psychic. You say you have profound devotion towards Our Lady, then why are you attacking her children on this page? Your actions speak for your heart. These are all beautiful hearted people who really love the the Queen. God bless you to find truth!

[YouAreLost2]

@916suns As far as I understand, I'm not atacking anyone, I'm just saying that I don't believe this and that is not atacking anyone! You were the one who atacked the ones who don't believe this! My actions speek for my heart?! What, I'm not allowed to speek my mind?! Again I ask: where is the miracle on this video? And since when a question is an atack? And claiming that to understand Our Lady we need to embrace any apparition that's simply ridiculous! Bless are those who don't need "signs"!

[pbaylis1]

@YouAreLost2

That's a little arrogant. I think if God sends a genuine sign (and who are you to judge what is genuine or not), surely we should heed it and not say "God, I don't need your signs. I'm so pious and holy already can't you see". At least don't drape wet blankets over those whose attention God is really trying to get.

[YouAreLost2]

@pbaylis1 Oh really? That's only because you're interpretating it that way! Read the Bible and you'll see that my intention was far from being arrogant. Anyway, Jesus Himself said that happy are those who believe without seeing it.... Who am I? Someone who's Catholic and believe deeply in God but who is also rational to see that there's absolutely no miracle here. You should also remember that Jesus and former visionaries warned us about false signs and aparitions!

[pbaylis1]

@YouAreLost2

Yes, but your arrogance extends to seemingly knowing that this is a false apparition. That's not only arrogant, but foolish.

[YouAreLost2]

@pbaylis1 And you go on calling me arrogant even though you don't know me... and foolish and only because I don't agree witj your point of view! Lol... I don't even know why I waist time with people like you that have the guts to call themselves Christians but still don't think twice before atacking and judge someone with a different point of view. Anyway, anyone with brains can see that this "miracle" is the result of the sunlight hitting the camera...

[pbaylis1]

@YouAreLost2

I honestly wish you wouldn't waste your time with us. We need it like a hole in the head. The Vatican has already praised the good fruits of Medjugorje. God can get a positive result from anything, even evil. Your militant actions are simply snatching conversions out of God's hands. I wouldn't wanna be you in front of God.

You need to chill out and wait for the Vatican and stop interfering with anything God may be trying to do in the meantime.

[YouAreLost2]

@pbaylis1 And still you don't stop, right? Lol... funny thing. And you go on judjing me as if you were God! You wouldn't like to be me in front of God?! Who in hell are you to sy that? What do you know about me except that I diverge of your opinion?! As far as I noticed you're the one who's atacking and accusing me! I'm merely saying I don't believe in Medjugorge apparitions and I don't see any miracle in this video!!! Have I not the right to my own opinion and to state it?!

[YouAreLost2]

@pbaylis1 Also it's quite stupid to believe that Our Blessed Mother keeps on apearing on the same place for 29 years in a row!!! Yes, because it makes sense that The Virgin Mary keeps on showing there instead of showing in different places, like She did before! As well as I can only imagine how pleased She is having in mind the amount of money people are making in Her name!!! Yes, like paying to "spend Christmas with The Virgin"!!! Outrageous! (check the official site if you don't believe me!)

[pbaylis1]

@YouAreLost2

You've been reading too many conspiracy theories. To me and every other rational person that's followed Medjugorje, we should be grateful that Our Lady has been with us for so long. How many people on your street don't give two hoots about God. Count them, then realise that even after 29 years, there is still a whole lot of converting to do. We should be thankful that Our Lady's help and intercession has held back the hand of God. Your tantrums will only drag it out all the longer

[YouAreLost2]

@pbaylis1 Hum... right. And this is so true that not even the Church aproves it... Anyway, for this last comment of yours I can only realise that, for you, even lies are good as long as they convert people... right... And you call yourself rational? If only I could see a rational argument coming from your part maybe I'd agree with you but you're really just trying to prove yourself right so, I'm really not waisting my time with you.

[pbaylis1]

@YouAreLost2

How rational is it to get upset when people love miracles? Our lady of Guadalupe converted most of South America because people got excited. Thank goodness for the Catholic Church that you weren't around at that time to pour scorn on them. As for Medjugorje, how rational is it to condemn this apparition when the Vatican has not condemned it AND it is currently under further investigation? Just let it run its course. It's in good hands at the Vatican.

[YouAreLost2]

@pbaylis1 It is rational to be upset with "miracles" that go on on the same place for 29 years in a row!!! I have no problem with the apparitions in Guadalupe, why would I? As well as I don't have a problem with the apparitions of Lourdes and Fátima!!! Why would I? Those are legitimate and, funny thing, none of them lasted for 29 years and people didn't had to pay to "be with the Virgin"!... The Vatican has not condemed but has not aproved them either.

[alanm46]

This video, like all of the others of the so called sun miracle, is a fraud. It is obvious that this "phoenomenon" is caused by the iris of the camera opening and closing rapidly. If you don't believe me try dragging the timeline pointer slowly when the sun starts to pulsate. Then freeze it when the sun light goes dim and you will see total darkness. This darkness can only be caused by closing the camera's iris!

[YouAreLost2]

@alanm46 Of course it is... but it's useless to waist one's time to try and explain that. People will rather believe in so called "miracles" then in truth, and the truth is: we don't need these "miracles" to believe in God or convert, waking up every morning is a miracle itself!

[liderlider]

This is the Power Of God ..the world has to change of mind

God loves you

[wheremygat187]

this is the camera compensating for the light, very obvious.

[pbaylis1]

That would mean everybody on the bus is involved in a pretty clever hoax, because nobody's seen the camera film yet, not even the guy holding the camera. They are looking at what is happening in real time and their reactions are in real time.

[meangreen4321]

@pbaylis1

They can maybe see it just on the camera in real-time. Consider that if the sun was really behaving the way it shows, wouldn't these people be screaming from excitement? I would be ecstatic and yet their voices don't even show surprise.

[Geistertramper]

its disco time !

[oolhiphan456]

Biblical and Historical evidence that the Mary of the Bible and the Mary of the Apparitions are two different opposing beings. The apparition is in fact the ANTICHRIST. Satan is masquerading a woman to deceive mankind. To find out more pls visit rev1911dotwebsdotcom

[josephramanair]

Don't believe what you see!

[julianghido]

stupid joke of the camera!

[Apache1980]

where is a miracle in this? could somebody explain it to me?

[davidennett]

Many of my friends have been to Medjugorje and have described this miracle. Although I believed them, I never could really imagine what this phenomena look like...well now I know!

Thanks for the post. Hopefully it will help those struggling with their faith.

[man20202020]

i believe

[elLuchador0]

Acts 2,17-21

In the last days it will be, God declares, That I will pour out my Spirit upon all flesh, and your sons and your daughters shall prophesy, and your young men shall see visions, and your old men shall see visions, and your old men shall dream dreams. Even upon my slaves, both men and women, in those days I will pour out My Spirit; and they shall prophesy. And I will show portents in the heaven above and signs on the earth below, blood, and fire, and smoky mist.

[0313055]

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[giovanniufo]

there coming and you know this this shit is amazing aint it?

[Cootabux]

gio

Yes they are!

The Watchers are already here.

[thereseflorentyna]

I believe

[jlandles]

Why haven't real scientists investigated?

[killtroy811]

I saw this flashing of the sun in a dream. Only it was slowed down more and everything looked like it was made out of crystals.

[popealice]

DISCO HEAVEN!

Mary is a Dancing Queen

Wake up Humanity and get DANCING. You are here to have FUN!

Life is a Cabaret

Free yourselves from the OPIATE of the People (aka religion).

UFOS are everywhere. The NEW ERA is HERE

Pope Alice Loves you to Life

[Cootabux]

popealice

They give you thumbs down because they don't like what you say but your sentence about UFOs is closer than they could imagine.

[legrandduvivier]

A detail unbias description on these books:

"Great Apparitions of Mary: An Examination of Twenty-Two Supranormal Appearances" by Ingo Swann

and "DIMENSIONS: A Casebook of Alien Contact" by Jacques Vallee

[pbaylis1]

There's always a total loser on every form...sigh

[IH8ThinkingOfNames]

I want you to prove to me beyond reasonable doubt that there really is something that happens here, can you show me another video where the sun flashes like that while the camera is held still?

[perchequi]

as i said in clip nr1, you are right!

[IH8ThinkingOfNames]

Wow... are people stupid enough to believe this? Maybe some solar thing does happen there, but from your video, which is rather shitty mind you, it proves nothing. I watched all of these videos and in every one where this so called miracle happened, you were shaking the camera violently. The miracle you see here is nothing but the camera adjusting to the light rapidly from this loon shaking the camera. If there is a real miracle why can't you set this camera on a stand and tape it that way.

[dromycatcher]

if you watch better,t hen you'll see the camera isn't 'shaking' any more than in the beginning, if you want to call that shaking, it is the light that is flickering 'violently'

[salmarrr]

o man, it scared a shit outta me! really! :/

[hanseydave]

There´s no scientific explanation for this, its a true miracle, if any of you dont believe i dont judge you, I only bare you to go there an experiment it yourself.

[Cootabux]

hansey..

I'll give you a hint to what's really going on.

If my ancestors who lived a hundred years ago saw a present day flat screen TV (advanced technology), they would swear it was a magic box with little people inside. They're not stupid. They just never saw the miracles of 21st Century science!

[alienvpredatorvhuman]

alien war!!!

[ogutel]

lew you say you are a changed man....do you really believe that the victoms of your evil past have been washed from your sole...God will never forgive you for your sins....you carry them on your sole for as long as you are on this earth.....

[AK47sherni]

Who are you? God Himself? You sould like the devil judging others in so ugly a way.

[GalaxyHorse]

I do not know what is occuring, but if this is a miracle, why not have this happening all over the world, so there could be no shred of doubt at to local atmospheric conditions, or local anything? For all humanity to witness, not just fee paying christains

[pbaylis1]

This is coming. According to the visionaries, there will be a great sign that will be just for atheists, and leave no doubt that God does exist. But, it might be too late for many. Better to say a few prayers each day now, even if you don't quite believe completely. What harm can it do.

[Cootabux]

pbaylis1

What's interesting is that we are supposed to believe by faith?? Then why give any signs at all. If God wanted to prove he exists to Atheists, all he has to do is appear to each and every Atheist. He's God, he can do anything so appearing simulataniously to every Atheist on the planet is no problem for him! So Y something so vague?

Before you just believe something, it might be a good idea to analyse it from every conceivible angle.

Things are not always what they seem.

[fatface111]

There is supposed to be a world wide warning soon according to the garabandal visionaries and the medjugorje visionaries also give a hint of a world wide warning, It is very possible that this warning is iminent, we can only hope..

[Cootabux]

Galaxy..

Because what you're seeing is not the Sun. If this was a phenomenon actually happening to the Sun, it would have been recorded from all the areas of land that the Sun was visible to. In other words, such a Solar phenomena would have been all over the news.

What you see here is not the Sun!

[osnolarotceh]

those are aliens doing bullshit just for having FUN

[salmarrr]

LMAO Hahaha nice one man! :) But this could be true!

[4Dsign]

Egoists!

[repnthehatchet]

Are you Muslim? We pray harder for you then.(quote) wow thats religious. no tolarace for other religions. HAIL SATAN 666 (who doesnt exist neither does god)

[RockyBalboa211]

the catholic church is awesome

[pbaylis1]

Yes, I love the Catholic Church. When I go to Mass or pray the rosary, I can sense that I am part of the real history and tradition right back to Christ and the apostles, with our loving mother Mary and the saints watching over us and guiding us.

[Raphaella13]

These are my sentiments exactly. The rituals of the Catholic Church are magnificent. It is for me the only one true Church, begun by Christ Himself.

[Raphaella13]

Ditto, Rocky!

[scottandildi]

@RockyBalboa211 Your statement is a clear indication of where your loyalties are. A Christian would proclaim that God alone is awesome, not a man-made institution with Lucifer pulling it's strings.

[RockyBalboa211]

@scottandildi: The chuch is the body of Christ, we are within the living body of Christ.

[scottandildi]

@RockyBalboa211 The Catholic church is the body of Christ just as a demon is deguised as an angel. The true Church is unseen in this world and unknown to most.

[RockyBalboa211]

@scottandildi: Which is Church is the true members of Catholic Church and all the peoples who believe Jesus to be God (protestants). 

[scottandildi]

@RockyBalboa211 Those who seek Christ consistantly and bear fruit through the revelation that comes from seeking are the Church. Most Catholics and Protestants don't do that.

[RockyBalboa211]

@scottandildi: I never said most catholics or protestants are going to be saved. The path of salvation is narrow and your right, yet if catholics or protestants truly do this then they will be saved since they are living in the church.

[pbaylis1]

I wouldn't want to be you when you face the God you just cursed. It might be tomorrow.

[utkumut7]

With name of the mercifull,

Look at this watch?v=PjozlfYdZrU

that girl tore Quran and was turned to a mause by Allah.

Come and be Muslim. The real miracles are that of our Prophet Muhammed.

[pbaylis1]

That is just a statue. Not real. Anyway, I like Muslims. They love God.

[utkumut7]

We don't love god! Fuck the god! We only afraid of god. And that is why we trust in him. If we would not afraid we do not believe in god. He has a terrible hell and we don't want to go there so we say we believe him when we pray but other times we fuck off him.

[anime7lover1992]

are you muslim? you DONT sound like one! cause i am, and pbaylis1 is good about it with loving god and his/her religion. you dont sound any of a muslim or wat else yu are!

[utkumut7]

and fuck your god too

[Raphaella13]

Poor thing. . .your blasphemous language determines you as "taken by Satan," but we will pray for you. Are you Muslim? We pray harder for you then. Those who speak and do evil fear the Truth; they dislike being reminded of the Truth. . .Don't you understand that there is but one God, yours and ours is the same. Bless you anyway, with all your fuck yous anyways. Your goal was to shock, but it does not shock. It's only dirty words.

[Cootabux]

Raph..

That's a rather arrogant position to take, isn't it, especially considering that you know so little of what's really going on???

[utkumut7]

We don't love god! Fuck the god! We only afraid of god. And that is why we trust in him. If we would not afraid we do not believe in god. He has a terrible hell and we don't want to go there so we say we believe him when we pray but other times we fuck off him.

[pbaylis1]

Fear of God is the beginning of love. Better to fear God than nothin. But, if you say "Fuck God", then maybe you need some help quick.

[sycogrl11]

wow.. people.. calm down will ya? .. its only a belief.. not a life-style that will make you complete or something.. my goodness.. but no one needs help unless they are obsessed

[pbaylis1]

We're pretty calm. And it's not a "lifestyle" at all. It's acknowledging your creator and worshipping and loving Him as you should. My goodness.

[sycogrl11]

Im only talking about people who like "i didnt go to church this sunday.. i need to pray and ask forgiveness" that kind of thing.. the people who just are pretty mch obsessed.. no offense intended. And why would i need to worship someone if i dont believe that they even exist..?

[syndman]

At least take a little time to find out if They really exist. I think that won't hurt. Peace be with you!!!

[anime7lover1992]

you right...call a doctor for him

[dtv08]

I AM CATHOLIC, I had been in Medjugorje and I THINK you are on the wrong way

[pbaylis1]

It's not the wrong way. You've been reading too much propaganda, probably from Unity Publishing or someone like that. Check out marian-times dot com.

[tim1990nissan]

HAHAHA camera blinking. i will laugh at you eastern europeans when you get more muslims in your country and they take your land. nazist will wipe you out fuckers

[Marko19612008]

dream on dude!! DREAM ON!!!I am not afraid of you types!!! Never was, never will be!!!

[kayzen76]

This is not fake!

This is love :D

[wn01se]

fake

[roccorossetti]

sono l'autore del film. A me ha cambiato la vita : In bene , Rocco

[pbaylis1]

Many English-speaking people would like to know what you guys are talking about on the bus. Perhaps you can translate some.

[HercegBosna16]

It's funny how nobody posts videos of the sun miracle "anywhere else in the world" and yet they say it can be done..I'm sure it can but I want as many videos as there is from Medjugorje on youtube and you do relaize people see the sun miracle in Medjugorje at the same time...crowds of people from different countries speaking different languages and being different religions

[dynlynmbb]

HOW IN THE WORLD COULD THIS BE FAKED... I am not a catholic but I am spiritual and I do believe things like this can happen. Did someone really fake all of this with a camera. this is hard to conceptualize. I mean my mind is struggling with the realness of it. Can the sun actually do this??

[lemrac889]

Science says it can't... but it happened at Fatima in 1917 and now it's happening at medjugorje... BOTH are apparition sites of Mary. To sum that up, Science hasn't got a clue but STILL they're not willing to accept this as supernatural phenomenon. Science & Religion; Who's being rational now eh?

[Marko19612008]

well said :-) God does what HE simply does.

[MetalMilitiaGda]

To robota Mosadu

[okinawa160]

wow niezłe :)

[pbaylis1]

Scott Hahn's conversion story:

chnetwork dot org/scotthconv dot htm

For any anti-Catholics who haven't heard the basic arguments that have already been thrashed out. There are always new anti-catholics coming out of schools and universities every day who are on fire against the Catholic Church. Please take the time to read. And God bless you.

[pbaylis1]

Here's a whole list of conversion stories that will have covered all your objections: chnetwork dot org/converts dot htm

[pbaylis1]

When you're done reading these, please retract all your agressive, arrogant comments, or otherwise state how you are any better informed or inspired than these people, including former protestant church leaders. Please show all your supporting bible verses and let's get down to it. First you have to go away and do the study that these other people did, or we're just wasting our time.

[pbaylis1]

2 Thessalonians 2:15 "So then, brethren, stand firm and hold to the traditions which you were taught by us, either by word of mouth or by letter"

This is, first of all, a refutation of sola scriptura, and secondly an endorsement of tradition.

[joxer445]

"the "blessed mother" IS in medjugorje right NOW"

See, Arnold, that's the problem. You try to convince other people that your baseless fantasies are Divine revelations, when even a cursory study of Medjugorje reveals otherwise.

Please keep your ridiculous opinions to yourself. You are spiritually endangering weak minded Christians, you are mocking and undermining the Word of God, and you fail to give reasons why you think contradicting Scripture is an "okay" thing to do.

[heyarnold11]

you are missing out SO much.dont want to waste my energy on you anymore. good luck and god bless to you.

[joxer445]

justforcatholics DOT org/a21.htm

[joxer445]

The bottom line on Catholocism is this: Christ died, paying the penalty once and for all. A person is saved by Grace alone (because no one can be perfect, works don't make anyone better than anyone else in God's view)

so... outwardly, Rome teaches Biblical salvation (to an extent), but then adds a bunch of menial tasks and works and other rituals that *are not Biblical/ are not Christian*.

[pbaylis1]

James 2:14-26. "What does it profit, my brethren, if someone says he has faith but does not have works? Can faith save him?"

[joxer445]

yes it takes both, but Catholocism places too much attention on works and rituals, and not enough time meditating on the Word. Something else that confuses me: can't a priest absolve someone from their sins right before they die? What's that all about? I've never understood that.

[joxer445]

..and you also think you can *earn* God's grace, don't you? Save up some grace, lose some grace, do some penance (you think works make up for your sins???) NO HUMAN is "better" than any other in God's eye's, regardless of what you do.

Catholics forget why Christ died on the Cross; they don't get that event's purpose at all. If they did, they wouldn't have distorted it with man made traditions and rituals developed over the centuries that are completely anti-Christian.

[pbaylis1]

Oh how confused you are and rather aggressive to be taken seriously. Paisley et al have done a good job on you. Though you sound almost like a church of christ devotee.

[pbaylis1]

Yes I DO believe you can earn God's grace and obtain a greater place in heaven. This is shown in Matthew 5:19.

[joxer445]

here you go

godonthe DOT net/evidence/catholic.htm

Romans 10:9 "That if you confess with your mouth that Jesus is Lord and believe in your heart that God raised Him from the dead you will be saved."

[pbaylis1]

Romans 10:9 shouldn't be taken out of context. Christ has done the work of salvation; man is responsible to believe and confess. For a dying man, this is probably enough, but you and I need to take it a step further. Jesus shows us how in Matthew 25:33-46.

[pbaylis1]

Your objections have all been answered over and over by protestants that dared to ignore the anti-catholic rhetoric and actually study the word. The subsequently converted to the True Church. Such people include very prominent former protestants such as Scott Hahn. Google his conversion story.

[pbaylis1]

Catholics believe Christ paid the penalty once and for all. But, we must accept Christ's redemption and apply it to ourselves through our repentance and perseverence. It can NEVER be just a one-off acceptance of Christ because human nature is so fickle. I might accept Jesus Christ into my life wholeheartedly today, and wake up tomorrow morning wondering whether God even exists. That's why Paul says to work out your salvation daily with fear and trembling. Not just take it for granted.

[Woolkan]

Nonsens, someone wave hand in front of camera and... what? What is this?

Nonsens.

[joxer445]

Yes, nonsense. A camera error that can occur when one points a cam directly at the sun. This "phenomenon" can be repeated in other parts of the world.

I would love to see Penn and Teller do a Bulls**t episode on Medjugorje...

[heyarnold11]

i saw the sun spin and change colours with my eyes. i saw other wonderful things too, but nothing i say, (because you dont know me,)will convince you.you can SEE theres something going on there,but thats your opinion,

[heyarnold11]

joxer445.i grew up a church of england,what has catholics got to do with it,the "blessed mother" IS in medjugorje right NOW,

[joxer445]

"i grew up a church of england,what has catholics got to do with it,the "blessed mother" IS in medjugorje right NOW,"

Okay, God. Thank you for the heads up, I'll check it out after I'm finished debunking it.. (rolls eyes)

[heyarnold11]

joxer445.whats ur problem ?? u sound very angry.cos people love "the blessed mother"

[joxer445]

You deify her, and that is something that has evolved over the years in the Church, and it isn't Biblical. All these powers you attribute to Mary have no basis in Scripture.

Catholics say they don't worship Mary, but all I hear them talk about is Mary Mary Mary, with Christ thrown in every so often as sort of a secondary character.

Be honest. When you feel like praying or when you feel guilty for something, the first person you think of is Mary, not Christ, isn't it?

[joxer445]

Sigh... Arnold, why do you hate the Bible so much? Why do you not take heed to what Scripture says about Mary and about "visions" like this? Why are you content to just "believe what you want to believe" when it contradicts the Word of God? You have denounced the Word of God and are following the concepts of human beings.

Good Luck.

[joxer445]

"joxer445.whats ur problem ?? u sound very angry.cos people love "the blessed mother""

I'm not angry. I'm just waiting to read a post of yours where you exalt Christ instead of Mary, but I'm not holding my breath...

[NicholasPOGM]

Jesus is worthy of worship, not Mary. To worship another is sin. Mary was a sinner. She even declared her need for a Saviour in Luke 1:47 when she said, "..my spirit hath rejoiced in God my Saviour." There is overwhelming proof that the Vatican has been home to Antichrist for almost 2000 years. Satan needed a "Christian" church to be able to infiltrate and cause Christians to sin. See RemnantofGod(DOT)org

[pbaylis1]

That might be true, except Catholics don't worship Mary. In fact, the Catholic Church has already excommunicated sects and schisms that placed too much emphasis on Mary, with some feminist groups actually worshipping her as a God. Catholics "venerate" Mary as they do other saints.

[NicholasPOGM]

Dear pbaylis1... research how the bible defines "worship" and you will see that yes, you do worship Mary.

[pbaylis1]

Sorry, you are wrong. Please go and learn.

[joxer445]

"Sorry, you are wrong. Please go and learn."

BZZZZZTT!!! Wrong response, and you people are not getting off that easily. Almost everything a typical Catholic believes about Mary is unscriptural and based upon... nothing.

I can prove this. What can *you* do?

[pbaylis1]

Do you have the guts and stamina to just shut up and wait and see if you're right, i.e. when you die? If not, then you're just asking for a fight and not worth the effort.

[joxer445]

"Perpetual Virginity" = evidence against

"Glorious Assumption" = no Biblical evidence

"Mary was sinless" = evidence against

"Queen of Heaven" = evidence against

Like Limbo and much other nonsense, all made up by Catholics over the years. Repetetive prayer (rosary) = anti-Christian, FYI.

[pbaylis1]

You are forgeting or ignoring one very important truth: i.e. that Christ handed to Peter the authority to bind and loose and whatever he bound or whatever he loosed would be so done in heaven. So, when Peter (or the current pope) speak "ex-cathedra", whatever they speak is infallible and will be deemed bound in heaven, until such time as God sees that there needs to be a change.

[pbaylis1]

Furthermore, Christ promised that the gates of hell would NEVER PREVAIL against His new church. Combine this with Peter's authority to bind and loose and, unfortunately for Luther, you have the situation where errors and corruption can exist in the Catholic church WITHOUT THE CHURCH BEING ABANDONED BY CHRIST. Luther had no right to abandon what Christ promised He Himself would not abandon.

[pbaylis1]

Joxer, place your response again. I accidentally clicked "Remove" instead of "Reply". I want to respond to it. You said something about my whole basis being "off" and about Jesus talking to all of his disciples when he said "Whatever you bind on earth....."

[joxer445]

"..already excommunicated sects and schisms that placed too much emphasis on Mary, with some feminist groups actually worshipping her as a God...

Yes, some of you go a little too far with your CORE BELIEFS (read: you *all* think that way, some just take it to further extremes..)

Why don't Christian churches have this problem?

Because they aren't prone to exalting Mary. Why not? Because they read the Bible and understand what you do not.

[pbaylis1]

Rubbish. It's just common sense. Can you imagine Jesus would not feel insulted if you walked into his house and ignored, or even slandered, His mother?? Mary, by the mere act of bearing the son of God is elevated above any other human being. She is not God, but very very special and eminently worthy of our veneration.

[joxer445]

"She even declared her need for a Saviour in Luke 1:47 when she said, "..my spirit hath rejoiced in God my Saviour."

-- you are wasting your time, unfortunately. These people are not interested in the Word of God, and have a habit of ignoring that particular verse, among others...

I've found that one cannot use the Bible to convince Catholics they are wrong, as they pay no heed to the Word of God.

Mary had other children; they deny that, too. I'd love to know how they get their info.

[pbaylis1]

Even Jesus Himself said that "only God is good". It's a matter of humility. Mary and Jesus were both equally humble. The greater you are the more humble you should be.

Where do YOU get your information from? Who told you that Jesus' "brothers" doesn't refer to Joseph's existing children from his previous marriage? Where does it say Mary had other childre. It only says Jesus had "brothers".

[zdenkomikulic]

Bugujno

Hvala Bogu i onima koji vjeruju.

[DragonessLife]

Great video. Thank you

[kbilyak04]

We could sure use some help right now.

[stjude1984]

good

[heyarnold11]

i think the blessed mother in medjugorje is awesome

[joxer445]

"i think the blessed mother in medjugorje is awesome"

shouldn't you capitalize "Blessed Mother"? like the Bible does?... oh, wait, my bad..

..hey, is Abraham your Blessed Father or something?

Hey, I can make stuff up that doesn't make any sense as well as you ya know! It feels good and its fun!

[heyarnold11]

you certanly can make stuff up that dosent make any sense.you said it mate"""

[heyarnold11]

good

[Bugojanacx]

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