Um...isn't there one important scene missing from when Holden and Lily first meet? Doesn't he jump out of the stable in front of Dusty and Lily and basically startles her? I'm not seeing that anywhere in these clips...:(
@katie66bug There was some editing done for the rebroadcast years later, but it seems like that scene was long enough to have aired in the previous episode. It's too important moment to cut out since the whole point of showing it again was to see when they met.
Firing Martha and Scott Bryce was the final, jump the shark moment for ATWT. Noelle is fine, even pretty good, when one stops blaming her for this new version of Lily, which ISN'T Lily at all. But the bottom line is Scott IS Craig, Martha IS Lily and the show should have been smarter in making a deal work
Haha, it was a joke, although I have to admit they didn't exactly show these older episodes in great quality, I mean I know it was 20+ years ago, but usually stuff from the 80's wasn't all blurry like this.
Ehh, it sort of is. Watching these various vids you've uploaded, I sometimes couldn't tell who was who in terms of characters. For example, watch a movie from the 80's and you'll see what I mean by this being blurry in comparison.
It's nice to see more of Sierra's fire here. And I think Marsha took "last warning" a bit too seriously! Did Holden say his "folks" ran a farm? I thought his father was dead by this time.
Holy hell Holden's hot!!! It's awesome to see Lily and Holden when they were teens, it's too bad it's not the same Dusty too. It's funny that to me Holden has a bad boy look about him here, but now he's so clean-cut, whereas Dusty looks all wholesome boy-next-door in this clip but now he looks like a mobster. Funny how things change. Thanks for the video.
Wow like I said in the first video, this bring back so many memories! My grandma used to make us watch this and I STILL remember this actual episoed when it first aired, I must have been only like 5 years old but still remember it to this day! What happened to this Lilly? Why'd she leave the show? Think she will ever return? I saw it today and Holden cheated on Lilly with that annoying blonde!
In March of 2008, Martha Byrne (Lily) was re-negotiating her contract. She asked that she be given a guarantee of episodes per year, which is customary for soap opera contracts. Instead of responding to her request, the production company fired her and found a replacement, Noelle Beck. Byrne is probably too expensive for the show, so I wouldn't expect her back. They hired this Craig again in 2007, and he lasted less than a year because his standards were higher than the writers'.
They didn't exactly fire her. The negotiations were still on-going. They did, however, put out a casting call for the part of Lily, thinking it would scare her into signing. Instead she was insulted and left of her own accord.
Fired or not signed to a new contract, it doesn't really matter. As I said, she asked for a guarantee, and instead of giving her one, they responded by going ahead with their plans to replace her.
Lily was a bitch back then. Spoiled little rich girl. I always wondered how in the world all the "help" ended up as presidents and CEO's of companies and crap. Even on Y&R, Brad started out as the pool boy, now he's like the Big Cheese.
So Dusty was with Lily when she first met Holden. I guess Dusty was a really special person in Lily's life. That could be another reason why she misses him so much because he witnessed Lily meeting the father of her children.
This is classic footage. I was a little kid when this aired. Holden, Lily, Dusty, Craig, Sierra. Everyone especially Holden looks well today. I remember the old lady from the beginning too.
Wow, I can't believe that is Jon Hensley. His voice sounds so different. I remember watching around this time, but I was only 6 or 7. Yet, I still have memories of these episodes. Thanks for posting! It reminds me of my childhood.
I'm really bummed to see Martha leaving as Lily. Too many great years on ATWT... Don't know how long it'll take me to get used to the new/planned on Lily (Noelle Beck). Come back, Martha! :-(
If I remember correctly, this isn't the very first time Lily and Holden meet. The image of Holden swinging out of the rafters in a barn and surprising Lily keeps popping up when I think of the first time they meet. Ever their dialogue in this scene sounds like they've already meet at this point.
Everyone is wearing the same outfits here as in the scene you mentioned. I'm guessing that it occurred earlier in the episode and got cut out of the rebroadcast. Lots of editing happened during the classic episode airings a few years back.
Meg Ryan playd in "As The World Turns" and I see you have a lot of videos of the TV- show. I would be very happy if you could just say wich video Meggy plays in...
Wow. Eeeee @ Holden! I like him now, but he was pretty handsome back them! And Lily... *shakes head* wow, what a start they got off to! Holden's voice sounds different. That's interesting. I thought I'd recognize it better.
I didn't see the story when it originally aired, but what I have seen in random episodes shows me that Dusty was no match for Holden. I think it was much harder to choose between Holden and Damian. Those guys could drive you nuts with desire in a way Dusty didn't, pretty eyes or not.
Holden looks good here, but Dusty has better days as well and Holden had worse days than this also. Remember Holden is a couple years older than Dusty. As Dusty gets older, things even out more. The biggest thing is that Dusty was the original pairing for Lily and he was always the good guy back in the day. Holden had some schemes with Meg and held some truths from Lily. Regardless, those were great stories back then for sure!
Marsha used to give me the heebie jeebies, she was really frightening (this was before we knew that Doug was worse).
Luther's Corner & the Snyder farm is now a lot closer to Oakdale, at least it seems that way (makes me wonder how much Oakdale supposedly grew since this time period when Luther's Corner was 11 miles outside of Oakdale).
Um...isn't there one important scene missing from when Holden and Lily first meet? Doesn't he jump out of the stable in front of Dusty and Lily and basically startles her? I'm not seeing that anywhere in these clips...:(
katie66bug 1 month ago
@katie66bug There was some editing done for the rebroadcast years later, but it seems like that scene was long enough to have aired in the previous episode. It's too important moment to cut out since the whole point of showing it again was to see when they met.
Oakdalian 1 month ago
Wow Holden was soooooo good looking
Castaway73 6 months ago
THOSE are Dusty and Holden? *fans self hard, but still faints*
babiijam 6 months ago 4
@babiijam Lily's luck is nothing short of ridiculous, wouldn't you say?
Oakdalian 6 months ago 4
@Oakdalian oh i'd definitely say, and let me add that if i were in soapland, and i met lily, id probably shoot her outta spite.
babiijam 3 months ago
THAT is Holden? *fans self, but still faints*
babiijam 6 months ago
so cute. someday they'll have an amazing gay son together. yay!
TheDevilWearsRachel 8 months ago
HOLDEN VIOCE SOUNDS DIFFERENT THEN NOW DAYS...
amsterdammara 8 months ago
4:46 looks like Tommy Ratliff- Adam;s bassist.
wavnut 10 months ago
lukes dad is sooo sexy
justinonyc 1 year ago
dusty and holden were fine!!
charlottekane123 1 year ago
LMAO, they've been using the same characters all this time? SHIT!
raclip02 1 year ago
@raclip02 Soaps tend to do that!
Oakdalian 6 months ago
These are so great...Thanks for sharing!!!! But I thought Holden's first appearance in Oakdale was in October?
redsoxgirl7690 1 year ago
@redsoxgirl7690 That's not necessarily when he met Lily, though.
Oakdalian 6 months ago
Wow they are so young, and John's voice seems different. Did he put on a hick accent and then decide to take it off?
Stonehouse84 1 year ago
Holden is Hotter than the African Sun! "Farmboy, fetch me that pitcher!"
soysauce55 1 year ago 3
omg that's Dusty? hahaha what a babyface.
and Holden omg... can you say hot? and the attitude haha. that's so sexy.
LemonOdette 1 year ago
That is Dusty? WTH! He looks not mean at all!
Mellsa7 1 year ago 3
@Mellsa7 He wasn't always a mush-mouthed Sonny Corinthos wannabe.
Oakdalian 1 year ago 3
Martha use to remind me of Lisa Bonet from the Cosby Show,The way they spoke sound very much alike.
shengchenfan 1 year ago
DAMN, HOLDEN LOOKED FINEEEEE!!!
smiley8338 1 year ago 2
This is so funny to watch!
This was 6 years before I was born.
Now I'm 18, and (here in the Netherlands, 1.5 years behind) they've just broke up, again.
anasfan 1 year ago
God DAMN! And I thought Holden was good looking now. SHIT!
eava123 1 year ago
OMG holden!!!!!
Konniechiwa 1 year ago
Wauw Holden was so hot here.
littlegirlj 1 year ago 3
agree...holden looks way hotter than most of the "hunks" of today. he looks more like a man, maybe its the farm attire. haha
todi101 1 year ago
Omg Holdon lookedso different!
WickyGirl 1 year ago
OMG That's the Holden I fell in love with. Hot passionate, angry badboy. It's like now adays Holden and Dusty swapped personalities lol
Lchell1975 2 years ago 3
Yeah, she sure did saddle up on those guys over the years. Damian got some rides too. How did Lily get the hottest men on ATWT?
Oakdalian 2 years ago
"I will not ride him hard", hehehe! Is that because you'll be riding Dusty or Holden?
lolavox78 2 years ago
Damn! Holden was a hunk and a half back in the day!
jlhva09 2 years ago 3
Firing Martha and Scott Bryce was the final, jump the shark moment for ATWT. Noelle is fine, even pretty good, when one stops blaming her for this new version of Lily, which ISN'T Lily at all. But the bottom line is Scott IS Craig, Martha IS Lily and the show should have been smarter in making a deal work
SoapsGoldenAge 2 years ago
Well said. But giving the fans what they want prolongs the show. P&G was committed to getting its shows cancelled. Mission accomplished.
Oakdalian 2 years ago
the other guy was dusty???
elphau 2 years ago
They belong together, what are the writers doing these days?
eava123 2 years ago
Yum, Holden is gorgeous in this! Love his 80s-tastic hair...
lolavox78 2 years ago
i love this. especially the old ones. i can watch soap operas all day lol. thanx for posting. this is classic
dirty06maggot 2 years ago
You're welcome.
Oakdalian 2 years ago
Oh, Lily is such a typical stuck-up rich girl at first. And Holden, the much too hot stable boy from the other side. Such a typical soap opera!
colincoolness 2 years ago 2
Wow, Marsha makes Mrs. Danvers look like Rebecca of Sunnybrook Farms
mthivier 2 years ago
Omg.. Holden is so hot when he was young.. I cnt believe
321yankeesfan332211 2 years ago 3
I hope they at some point release all the 80's episodes with Holden remastered so that we can appreciate his hotness in full HD :P
RazrHack 2 years ago
I wouldn't hold my breath.
Oakdalian 2 years ago
Haha, it was a joke, although I have to admit they didn't exactly show these older episodes in great quality, I mean I know it was 20+ years ago, but usually stuff from the 80's wasn't all blurry like this.
RazrHack 2 years ago
Blurry?
Oakdalian 2 years ago
Ehh, it sort of is. Watching these various vids you've uploaded, I sometimes couldn't tell who was who in terms of characters. For example, watch a movie from the 80's and you'll see what I mean by this being blurry in comparison.
RazrHack 2 years ago
It's nice to see more of Sierra's fire here. And I think Marsha took "last warning" a bit too seriously! Did Holden say his "folks" ran a farm? I thought his father was dead by this time.
CarlD2 2 years ago
Who played Dusty in this episode? Not at all any of the recent ones to be on the show, correct? Doesn't seem to resemble any of them at all..
And wow and Holden and Lily! You said Martha was 15 here? How old was Jon?
HitchinARide37 2 years ago
Brian Bloom played Dusty. Jon was 19 or 20.
Oakdalian 2 years ago
I think there have only been two Dusty's, right? Brian and the current one. I can see why they cast him--they both have great, distinctive eyes
SoapsGoldenAge 2 years ago
I can't believe to see Lily and Holden so young! The actors spent 20 years on one show? That is like really being married!
shocked.
Irylen 2 years ago 3
Damn Holden's hot!
Nad3Titanic3 2 years ago 4
Jon even sounded sexy back then
MeredithHagner23 2 years ago
now i feel young because when this aired i wouldn't be born for another 3 years! lol
SupernaturalFreak88 2 years ago
Noelle's emotions seem to strained for my taste. It's hard to imagine such a glamorous woman as Josh and Iva's child.
Oakdalian 2 years ago
holden is soo hot here!
and didn't this craig returned to the show?
kencini8287 2 years ago 2
yes he did
Romanaaa01 2 years ago
Holy hell Holden's hot!!! It's awesome to see Lily and Holden when they were teens, it's too bad it's not the same Dusty too. It's funny that to me Holden has a bad boy look about him here, but now he's so clean-cut, whereas Dusty looks all wholesome boy-next-door in this clip but now he looks like a mobster. Funny how things change. Thanks for the video.
srayj 2 years ago 6
Dusty Donovan looks a little like Greg Brady
tvlistingman 2 years ago
Damn! Holden and Craig? Hotness.
belliebelle 2 years ago
OMG! Holden is hot! And Dusty made me lol
ILoveHim63 2 years ago 2
who played douglas? he looks so familiar!
holapearl 2 years ago
John Wesley Shipp, who was also on Guiding Light and Santa Barbara, as well as The Flash.
Oakdalian 2 years ago
Oh i know now, he was dawson's dad in dawson's creek!!!!!!!! thats where it rings a bell. thanks :)
holapearl 2 years ago
Damn Holden's sooooooo hot !!!!
francis0700 2 years ago 7
Thank you SO MUCH for posting this-- I've been dying to see it. And I can't believe Holden's insane levels of hotness. *picks jaw up off floor*
chocolatara 2 years ago 24
holden is so hot!
tararain 2 years ago 8
Holden was hot in the old days!
birecovered 3 years ago 5
Jon Hensley's Holden is hot now. But back then he was "sex in acid-wash"
Hammerton2 2 years ago
And Zac Efron bears an eerie resemblance.
Oakdalian 2 years ago
Holy shit!
That's Dusty!?
And damnn Holden!
SeriouslyxMoony 3 years ago 5
Holden was fine!
BiancaCC 3 years ago 21
"What was your name again?"
"Holden Snyder."-- "...er, I mean Sexy Sexy Beast"
*Melts*
Not only does he look hott but he sounds hott too!!!
magi134ema 3 years ago 6
Oh GOD!! Holden was Sweaty HOT in here!
benefit1984 3 years ago 5
classic tale- rich girl falls in love with the stable boy.
LOVE IT.
MsDaifan 3 years ago 5
Holden looks a lot older than Lily here! I wonder how old he was in real life. Off to check the internet!
waterlilyqueen 3 years ago
Back when Lily and Holden first met (1985) at that time "Their Real Ages" - Lily was 16, and Holden was 20.
deenage 3 years ago 3
their voices are soo different
cute!
Mupje86 3 years ago 4
Holden was hot, haha!
juditm83 3 years ago
yesssssss loooooooool OMGGGGGGGGGG
WickyGirl 3 years ago 2
Wow I second and ditto on what she just said. Holden was waaaay hawt and sexy lol. Whew (pant pant) lmao!
mrzchozenone 3 years ago
*MOUTH AGAPE* *STARES AT SEXY YOUNG HOLDEN* *DROOL ROLLS FROM MOUTH*
i think you get the point... me likey what i see :D
babeandandy 3 years ago 2
Wow like I said in the first video, this bring back so many memories! My grandma used to make us watch this and I STILL remember this actual episoed when it first aired, I must have been only like 5 years old but still remember it to this day! What happened to this Lilly? Why'd she leave the show? Think she will ever return? I saw it today and Holden cheated on Lilly with that annoying blonde!
WCWite 3 years ago
In March of 2008, Martha Byrne (Lily) was re-negotiating her contract. She asked that she be given a guarantee of episodes per year, which is customary for soap opera contracts. Instead of responding to her request, the production company fired her and found a replacement, Noelle Beck. Byrne is probably too expensive for the show, so I wouldn't expect her back. They hired this Craig again in 2007, and he lasted less than a year because his standards were higher than the writers'.
Oakdalian 3 years ago
They didn't exactly fire her. The negotiations were still on-going. They did, however, put out a casting call for the part of Lily, thinking it would scare her into signing. Instead she was insulted and left of her own accord.
clemsonfight 3 years ago
Fired or not signed to a new contract, it doesn't really matter. As I said, she asked for a guarantee, and instead of giving her one, they responded by going ahead with their plans to replace her.
Oakdalian 3 years ago
Lily was a bitch back then. Spoiled little rich girl. I always wondered how in the world all the "help" ended up as presidents and CEO's of companies and crap. Even on Y&R, Brad started out as the pool boy, now he's like the Big Cheese.
griffis180 3 years ago 2
I miss Brad on Y&R!
HitchinARide37 2 years ago
Holden is a sex monger in the younger days .. actually he's still pretty sexy :P
Undiscovereddaisy 3 years ago 2
i want to screeeaam! i can NOT believe that is holden and look at craig! this is the best clip i have ever seen!!
falnngel 3 years ago
I want to hear that scream.
Oakdalian 3 years ago
if you listen closely, you can!!!lol
falnngel 3 years ago
Lily Walsh was a brat way back when. Those were certainly the days.
rickram1961 3 years ago
Forgot to say, at this time the role of Dusty Donovan was being played by Brian Bloom.
pytko3 3 years ago
So Dusty was with Lily when she first met Holden. I guess Dusty was a really special person in Lily's life. That could be another reason why she misses him so much because he witnessed Lily meeting the father of her children.
pytko3 3 years ago
This is classic footage. I was a little kid when this aired. Holden, Lily, Dusty, Craig, Sierra. Everyone especially Holden looks well today. I remember the old lady from the beginning too.
mchou2002 3 years ago
damn retro!holden...lol
somebeachguy 3 years ago
Wow, I can't believe that is Jon Hensley. His voice sounds so different. I remember watching around this time, but I was only 6 or 7. Yet, I still have memories of these episodes. Thanks for posting! It reminds me of my childhood.
larabella79 3 years ago 3
Poor Holden, Lily is such a bitch in this clip. They were soo young and now she is leaving :( *Tear*
NukeLoah 3 years ago
I'm really bummed to see Martha leaving as Lily. Too many great years on ATWT... Don't know how long it'll take me to get used to the new/planned on Lily (Noelle Beck). Come back, Martha! :-(
Thannyr 3 years ago 4
Holden is so hot here!
mejpurple 3 years ago 3
Damn!! Holden was hot!
lovlarry 3 years ago 4
Wow! I've been looking for this forever. I was one year old when this was on.
readerbabe1984 3 years ago
THAT VOICE...so young and sexy
funkyagnes 4 years ago 6
holden soooo sexy...still is! he's a gorgeous man!
funkyagnes 4 years ago 5
If I remember correctly, this isn't the very first time Lily and Holden meet. The image of Holden swinging out of the rafters in a barn and surprising Lily keeps popping up when I think of the first time they meet. Ever their dialogue in this scene sounds like they've already meet at this point.
tappette12 4 years ago
Everyone is wearing the same outfits here as in the scene you mentioned. I'm guessing that it occurred earlier in the episode and got cut out of the rebroadcast. Lots of editing happened during the classic episode airings a few years back.
Oakdalian 4 years ago
Oh my God the first ever Lilden...wow!!
BellatrixNellieLovet 4 years ago
I love Holden and Lily and can't believe they are still on atwt. Holden is HOT.
bbopbecky 4 years ago 2
Meg Ryan playd in "As The World Turns" and I see you have a lot of videos of the TV- show. I would be very happy if you could just say wich video Meggy plays in...
Thanks.:
Linn xxx
LINNCelineDion 4 years ago
Sorry, right now I don't have anything from that far back, when she appeared on ATWT from 1982 to 1984.
Oakdalian 4 years ago
Holden is super yummy, then and now
fieryredgirlie 4 years ago 4
Holden Was a HOT SHIT!
cruelintentions9978 4 years ago 3
Holden is beyond Hot.
tilro321 4 years ago 3
his voive is sexy
Shawn2Belle 4 years ago 2
Oh my...
Holden is so young in this video... and Lily tooo...
Thanks for posting.
atwtgl 4 years ago
I really enjoy these I wish I could had watch the shows back in the 80's but I was just born when this was airing.
angel198522 4 years ago
Lily is amazing here
Undiscovereddaisy 4 years ago
How old is Lilly?
ingahauks 4 years ago
Martha Byrne was 15.
Oakdalian 4 years ago
Martha was incredible & Jon was smoking! He still is hot!!! Sizzle ~ sizzle ... burn!
MintMarshmellow 4 years ago 4
Holden was hot as hell back in the mid 80's. Wish I had watched soaps back then. I'd still do him now though.
delightsey 4 years ago 4
Holden was hot! Can´t believe that they will get married and have kids and all that. I love that about long running series.
And, boy, that was dusty? Age becomes him...
GuadaGN 4 years ago
Wow!! Who knew they would get married and have kids and all that. That´s what I love about long running series... And boy, Holden was hot!
GuadaGN 4 years ago 2
Holden looks hotter than hell
hubbellgardner 4 years ago 4
OMG young Holden is sooooo hot. He looks like the Brawny Man.
abfab20 4 years ago 7
wow. holden used to be hot.
bdivy1 4 years ago 3
Hey, he's still incredibly handsome!
Oakdalian 4 years ago 2
Wow. Eeeee @ Holden! I like him now, but he was pretty handsome back them! And Lily... *shakes head* wow, what a start they got off to! Holden's voice sounds different. That's interesting. I thought I'd recognize it better.
whitetealeaves 4 years ago
OMG I wasnt even born! :O
zrro19 4 years ago 2
Holden along rest of Snyder clan make me literally ill to my stomach. I could never those bunch of hicks!!!
rickram1961 4 years ago
You did know there was a Snyder in this episode, right? I won't be held responsible for any illness incurred!
Oakdalian 4 years ago
Just my opinion....Otherwise I love all these fanastic episodes of ATWT in what I feel is the golden age of the show.
rickram1961 4 years ago
WOW. Here it is. The start of the greatest love triangle story ever.Dusty,Lily,Holden.
Thanks for posting this. Can't get enough. Especially Dusty & Lily. Always loved them.
juleam 4 years ago
I didn't see the story when it originally aired, but what I have seen in random episodes shows me that Dusty was no match for Holden. I think it was much harder to choose between Holden and Damian. Those guys could drive you nuts with desire in a way Dusty didn't, pretty eyes or not.
Oakdalian 4 years ago
Holden looks good here, but Dusty has better days as well and Holden had worse days than this also. Remember Holden is a couple years older than Dusty. As Dusty gets older, things even out more. The biggest thing is that Dusty was the original pairing for Lily and he was always the good guy back in the day. Holden had some schemes with Meg and held some truths from Lily. Regardless, those were great stories back then for sure!
juleam 4 years ago
mine too!
daredenyme 4 years ago 3
Marsha used to give me the heebie jeebies, she was really frightening (this was before we knew that Doug was worse).
Luther's Corner & the Snyder farm is now a lot closer to Oakdale, at least it seems that way (makes me wonder how much Oakdale supposedly grew since this time period when Luther's Corner was 11 miles outside of Oakdale).
Yesimustbestupid 4 years ago 2