You know we do have a trial system in this country. The burden of proof lies on the prosecutor. Why would anyone admit guilt knowing they are innocent in the face of a lie with the knowledge that the trial will expose the lie. Yeah take two years because a cop says so and then forgo your trial.
It always surprises me, that Americans aren't bothered by the fact that their Cops are LEGALLY allowed to lie to detainees to extract a confession, e.g. telling Bodie they had his prints when they didn't..
Watch a European Crime-Drama and they don't do that at all, e.g. when Idris Elba plays a Cop in the British series ''Luther'' - they're only allowed to use what they have for interrogations.
@BelfastAtheist We have a problem with confessions that are extracted from people under torture because they are rarely accurate or truthful, but we have zero problem lying to a criminal to get self implication. If you are innocent, you can stand by your testimony. The truth is the truth and cop lying will reveal itself if he has the wrong man.
@BelfastAtheist Your argument assumes an innocent person is going to admit guilt simply by being lied to. I don't know about you, but if I had never touched a gun sitting in front me and a cop tells me he has my finger prints, I am not going to suddenly admit to having done so.
It doesn't ''Assume'' - the statistics for this are clearly on my side.. thousands of Americans routinely admit to crimes they didn't commit. Because that cop you imagine.. well, when he's at the other end of the table saying ''Admit to this and you'll get 2, deny it and get 14'' - I wish it wasn't like this, but it is - because your Cops are allowed to lie.
@BelfastAtheist First off, I am atheist skeptic as well, you shouldn't be suprised when I am going to ask you to support your claim with data. I want to see a study where "thousands of innocents admitted guilt out of fear of getting a harsher sentence." Plenty of studies to support claims that people admit to guilt during torture but not many that I know of that support your claim.
@BelfastAtheist Secondly, I would argue that it is rare that innocent people find themselves in interrogation rooms in this country. I am willing to bet your claim that this happens to thousands of Americans would be just as ludicrous as me claiming to understand criminal procedure in Northern Ireland. Lastly, I would rather be on trial in my country than any other country. I am sure you would say the same for your home. So my original point: don't feel bad for us.
@BelfastAtheist I want to make it clear that I acknowledge there are instances in which someone who is innocent may admit guilt because of not understanding the criminal process. Different story.
if this had of been under marlo he would have been clipped for it...stringer believed he beat the police (and rightly so) but am sure marlo would have feared a snitch...fuck marlo!
That song they play in the car was also in an episode of its always sunny in philadelphia and they don't list the soundtrack credits either I've been looking for that song for almost 4 years now off and on and no one has known the title yet
@3PointFilms He reflected the working man in a truly messed up world.
By all accounts he was smart, loyal, hard working, never asked for a hand out and took his job seriously all the way to the end. His character was to represent if you took this kid and stuck him in a better neighbourhood, he'd likely be a solid part of society.
Instead he's gunned down on a corner for having lunch with a cop.
This captures authority figures in the US perfectly. Most people in authority roles are hyper-arrogant, narcissistic, and condescending. They are full of themselves as they wallow in their self proclaimed intellectual superiority. But then reality hits and soon they are shown they are human just like the rest of us. People need to be a bit more humble.
@viewingthetube45 Yes, trying to convince a criminal that he's an idiot that fucked up and has been caught by people far smarter than him is obviously the wrong tactic. Surely he's going to confess if they could just be a little more humble and all-around pleasant.
@wuiqed Theres no evidence that Ray Kohl is any smarter than Bodie. I'd say Bodie is a pretty smart cat. Its been said by law enforcement that "We only catch the stupid ones." Bodie never gets caught.
@gauchebag He's brought in several times, but that's not the same as being caught. Only thing cops caught him for was beating on that old cop...and then he just walked on out of detention. He outsmarts the cops literally every time he deals with them.
@suited Well I must admit watching The Wire, the First 48, and posting comments on YouTube does not make me an expert in interviewing criminals. I do know for a fact that acting smug and pretending to be intellectually superior usually doesn't get you much in any situation. Common sense tells me if you fail to prove you are not a genius things quickly back fire. Hence the scene.
This episode is hilarious, the whole thing seems like Bodie absolutely screwed up, as he did, and he looks like a comical idiot. Once the cops drop the ball with the "print" thing, the whole mood changes. "Which one?" made me burst out laughing the first time I saw it and every time since. The smirk when they pick a gun is hilarious. Great character and great actor.
You know we do have a trial system in this country. The burden of proof lies on the prosecutor. Why would anyone admit guilt knowing they are innocent in the face of a lie with the knowledge that the trial will expose the lie. Yeah take two years because a cop says so and then forgo your trial.
ravager135 1 week ago
It always surprises me, that Americans aren't bothered by the fact that their Cops are LEGALLY allowed to lie to detainees to extract a confession, e.g. telling Bodie they had his prints when they didn't..
Watch a European Crime-Drama and they don't do that at all, e.g. when Idris Elba plays a Cop in the British series ''Luther'' - they're only allowed to use what they have for interrogations.
BelfastAtheist 2 weeks ago
@BelfastAtheist We have a problem with confessions that are extracted from people under torture because they are rarely accurate or truthful, but we have zero problem lying to a criminal to get self implication. If you are innocent, you can stand by your testimony. The truth is the truth and cop lying will reveal itself if he has the wrong man.
ravager135 1 week ago
@BelfastAtheist Your argument assumes an innocent person is going to admit guilt simply by being lied to. I don't know about you, but if I had never touched a gun sitting in front me and a cop tells me he has my finger prints, I am not going to suddenly admit to having done so.
ravager135 1 week ago
@ravager135
It doesn't ''Assume'' - the statistics for this are clearly on my side.. thousands of Americans routinely admit to crimes they didn't commit. Because that cop you imagine.. well, when he's at the other end of the table saying ''Admit to this and you'll get 2, deny it and get 14'' - I wish it wasn't like this, but it is - because your Cops are allowed to lie.
BelfastAtheist 1 week ago
@BelfastAtheist First off, I am atheist skeptic as well, you shouldn't be suprised when I am going to ask you to support your claim with data. I want to see a study where "thousands of innocents admitted guilt out of fear of getting a harsher sentence." Plenty of studies to support claims that people admit to guilt during torture but not many that I know of that support your claim.
ravager135 1 week ago
@BelfastAtheist Secondly, I would argue that it is rare that innocent people find themselves in interrogation rooms in this country. I am willing to bet your claim that this happens to thousands of Americans would be just as ludicrous as me claiming to understand criminal procedure in Northern Ireland. Lastly, I would rather be on trial in my country than any other country. I am sure you would say the same for your home. So my original point: don't feel bad for us.
ravager135 1 week ago
@BelfastAtheist I want to make it clear that I acknowledge there are instances in which someone who is innocent may admit guilt because of not understanding the criminal process. Different story.
ravager135 1 week ago
if this had of been under marlo he would have been clipped for it...stringer believed he beat the police (and rightly so) but am sure marlo would have feared a snitch...fuck marlo!
TheGlyn1234 3 weeks ago 3
LMAO Randy, Wallace, and all them other niggaz need to take lessons from this dude.
tahthedon 1 month ago
Bodie was always fucking the legal system over. They just couldn't hold him.
KushGangCannon 1 month ago
bodie was always my favorite on the show ...from when he sidebusted the cop and ran away from the Juevi center ...to the way he went out guns blazin
MonoEnMiPantelones 1 month ago
That song they play in the car was also in an episode of its always sunny in philadelphia and they don't list the soundtrack credits either I've been looking for that song for almost 4 years now off and on and no one has known the title yet
dedade8 2 months ago
For some reason Bodie is the most lovable character in the Wire even though he is a proper gangster.
3PointFilms 2 months ago
@3PointFilms He reflected the working man in a truly messed up world.
By all accounts he was smart, loyal, hard working, never asked for a hand out and took his job seriously all the way to the end. His character was to represent if you took this kid and stuck him in a better neighbourhood, he'd likely be a solid part of society.
Instead he's gunned down on a corner for having lunch with a cop.
MrDucktastic 1 month ago 4
lawyer.
challiray 3 months ago 4
I like the use of the phrase fuck up :D
Hoodhitta 3 months ago
Lawyer...gosh i love him
JuLss86 4 months ago
Yeah could anybody tell me what song is playing in the car?I've been looking for this track for AGES now...
Thazz84 5 months ago
I luv me sum, brodie on the real#
onlytweetyhot 6 months ago
Can anyone tell me what the song is called from 44 seconds on in the car and who the artist is? Sounds a bit like Paris old school......
rwa01 6 months ago
Lawyer
HPmob420 6 months ago
lol which one?thats you right there. lawyer.
Babyfacedblackjesus 6 months ago
What is the song playing in the car?
rwa01 6 months ago
This captures authority figures in the US perfectly. Most people in authority roles are hyper-arrogant, narcissistic, and condescending. They are full of themselves as they wallow in their self proclaimed intellectual superiority. But then reality hits and soon they are shown they are human just like the rest of us. People need to be a bit more humble.
viewingthetube45 6 months ago 2
@viewingthetube45 well said!!
MichaelScarn23 6 months ago
@viewingthetube45 Yes, trying to convince a criminal that he's an idiot that fucked up and has been caught by people far smarter than him is obviously the wrong tactic. Surely he's going to confess if they could just be a little more humble and all-around pleasant.
wuiqed 6 months ago
@wuiqed Theres no evidence that Ray Kohl is any smarter than Bodie. I'd say Bodie is a pretty smart cat. Its been said by law enforcement that "We only catch the stupid ones." Bodie never gets caught.
wohs145 6 months ago 5
@wohs145
he actually gets caught several times for different things throughout the show
gauchebag 3 months ago
@gauchebag He's brought in several times, but that's not the same as being caught. Only thing cops caught him for was beating on that old cop...and then he just walked on out of detention. He outsmarts the cops literally every time he deals with them.
RonaldMcDickFace 3 months ago
@suited Well I must admit watching The Wire, the First 48, and posting comments on YouTube does not make me an expert in interviewing criminals. I do know for a fact that acting smug and pretending to be intellectually superior usually doesn't get you much in any situation. Common sense tells me if you fail to prove you are not a genius things quickly back fire. Hence the scene.
viewingthetube45 6 months ago
Poor cole, he had a 1/3 in shot!
robertmurray7782 6 months ago
"Nobody ever thinks their stupid. It's part of their stupidity."
What a brilliant little touch.
MrHennessy30 10 months ago 35
@MrHennessy30 *They're*
TheGreendragon1001 5 months ago 9
@MrHennessy30 "*they're* stupid" XD
maelo771 1 month ago 5
@MrHennessy30 dunning-kruger effect
thr1llmatic 1 month ago
did stringer say ``anything that fire a bullet out of my corner.....`` or did he say ``anything that fire a bullet out of that corner...``
jespnshifty 1 year ago
This episode is hilarious, the whole thing seems like Bodie absolutely screwed up, as he did, and he looks like a comical idiot. Once the cops drop the ball with the "print" thing, the whole mood changes. "Which one?" made me burst out laughing the first time I saw it and every time since. The smirk when they pick a gun is hilarious. Great character and great actor.
Wortnick 1 year ago
sexy ass bodie !!!
WebcamModels101 1 year ago 5
Best part, bodies little smirk, then the best line in the whole scene, Lawyer.
nmckaige 2 years ago 2
Thanks for posting this, I love this scene.
cammy275 2 years ago 15