I think Angie,s hatred of God is really a hatred of her parents . Angie , if any child you carry is lucky enough to survive full term please allow it a free will . Do not make the same mistakes as your parents .
Did you bother to note that the first born egyptians were killed because pharoah ordered first born of Hebrews were to be killed. so you say God is bad but pharoah is good. shut the fuck up
Human rights? really angie hahaha, what about the rights of your unborn child what fucking voice did he/she have. your fucking amazing i mean you really are. You want to talk about moral codes abortion is an immoral code. what you do is moral i dont think so angie keep trying to convince people of that one and the only people who will listen to you are other crazies like you.
Must be infuriating to read words that you supposedly said. I would be pissed if someone told me I said something when I didn't say or condone any holy or unholy act.
People love to be slaves. How many people do you know who don't want to be told what to do, when to do it, and how to do it. Especially by an invisible fictitious powerless entity. Secular Humanism is a comprehensive life stance that focuses on the way human beings can lead happy and functional lives and are capable of being ethical and moral without religion or a God.
Christians confuse "objective" with "dictated by authority". Far from being objective, Christian morality originated from barbaric iron age savages, not from a supreme being. They in turn hold this morality as a matter of faith just as they do god's existence. You could not invent a more non-objective and irrational approach to the very subject of morality.
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I'm not sure if she realizes this but she has a smudge of dirt on her face. I am deeply sorry for the lack of mirrors in her house. I hope she reads this and immediately removes the smudge with a paper towel soaked in hot water.
@Mystified012 Honestly, what is it with Christians and attacks to physical appearance? Don't you think god "intelligently designed" me with the moles on my face? Who are you to question his handiwork, eh?
@AngieAntiTheist first you say you dont believe in God then you say who are you to question Gods work when he made you. Do you know that everyone except those who are nuts like you think you a joke just look at comments on your videos. alot of ppl hate you, they think your crazy mentally challenged. honestly your ex should have the parental rights because he cant be nearly a bad as you. your kid will need mental health help bc a cooky mother rasied him. i feel bad foryour child
@foxtrot1162 Well, I bet some people also think that YOU are crazy mentally challenged. I would never, after all you are such a shining example of christian virtues like "Love thy Neighbor", "who is without sin cast the first stone" and "judge not, lest ye be judged"... wait! You aren't! Well, it seems like you don't believe in some of the New Testament's teachings either...
@Vigilluminatus Yeah insane idiots like you who condone murder think im nuts. im simply fighting her evil its called an eye for an eye its also in the bible. And what i said was factual ppl do hate her most ppl are not defending her most are telling her she is wrong immoral and evil so my statement was based on the facts i guess you would argue against that one though too. keep up the great work baby killer. yes by supporting murder of the unborn you are just as guilty.
@foxtrot1162 So, following your logic, if someone kills Angie, you are guilty of murder too by wishing her death? And if all the New-Testament-forgiveness-stuff isn't quite yours, why don't you become Jew? They're happy with just Old Testament books. Then I guess, the Jews don't deserve that...
As long as you blend out the risk to her life and I think that the life of the mother is more important than that of a not-even-fetus (that might STILL have died with it's mother), this gets nowhere.
@Vigilluminatus How can you come one here and talk to me about murder and preach the bible when you condone the murder of the unborn. And i am not going to become a jew they are not going to get salvation they deny the lord Jesus and deny the new testamant. its called new testamant for a reason The ne agreement with mankind. jews are stubborn and think there old ways of sacrifice are still accepted by God for salvation but Jesus paid that price already.
If you are interested, check out the free book "Universally Preferable Behavior: A Rational Proof of Secular Ethics," by Stefan Molyneux. It argues that morality is not subjective.
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if you dont want to be raped use this advice do not look really good when your walking an ally at night no offence but your showing to much. Just bring a knife with you at all times so you can cut his balls and make it bleed lol.
@kirasaviorkira You're placing all the responsibility for not getting raped on women, not on rapists? Since when did I need to wear a burqa in the US to avoid being raped? Think about what you're saying.
hey you know what honey, maybe people will take your ramblings more seriously if you didn't hold your "puppies" out in the open. By puppies i mean your cleavage
@AngieAntiTheist Angie, I'd make you a sandwich any day! As a matter of fact, I'd cook you my best dinner, open up a fresh bottle of top shelf wine, and just treat you like queen! : ) You deserve it! : )))
btw almost didn't mention (sorry!) I'm very sorry you had to experience something like that, I've been close to unwilling rape victims when they were getting over it (i.e. talking about it) and it sounds pretty much like the worst experience ever. Torture, sometimes extreme. People who aren't crushed by not seeing a smile on their partner's face afterward are generally psychopaths.
awesome video, as for rape however I still believe it's dependent on the will of the woman; girls who like rape fantasies don't want to be lightly brushed, and don't want to expect it. They still exist too. However it's very hard to tell if they desire it and so as a rule I would suggest to people interested to get consent before sneaking in in the middle of the night or whatever ;)
like at the time. Socially acceptable and expected so that's what the bible talks about it. (it was written by PEOPLE and not God)
'sides, being diest i believe that the bible is merely an extremely old fantasized version of what might have happened to explain the morals of the day1
I agree on almost everything you're saying. Except the whole dissing on Christians part. Their faith is defensible and if they don't take everything completely literally and so forth, isn't such a bad book to follow. You just gotta keep in mind that the bible has been politicized and rewritten the crap out of it and that the stories are very much probably inaccurate. However I think the basic morals that the bible provides are sound. The stuff like slavery is simply what the social statuses were
@SPNSamDean84 Love that one, the Christians are defensible as long as they don't take the Bible literally. Really? Lets say I gave you a manual to put a bike together. But I told you, don't take it too literal. How many people would put the bike together properly?
Here's the truth: Christianity works the same way racism, class-ism, and even anorexia does. Indoctrination. How powerful is repeated indoctrination? Look at the Scientology ( the most ridiculous of all "sane" religions).
@johnnytluxury Youre missing the point, and obviously why it seems easy for you to agree with the Bible. The point is the Bible is not a manual you can decide to take or not take literally. Because what you decide should discarded (slavery, killing, et c.) another will not, and they will take what they want literal. If God wrote a manual on how to build a bike (how to grow as a civilization and worship him), you cant pick and choose what you feel is relevant. Same manual for everyone.
This is not a video about abortion. Please find one of the six videos that IS about abortion to leave your abortion-related comments. This video is about the Bible, slavery, and rape. Please keep comments on topic. Thank you!
I believe there is God. Not the book God but a Being God. The Bible is an attempt by humans to put into words the God inspiration that intended us here. Sometimes the humans get it right sometimes they don't. Stop debating the exsitence of God...that's how human caused horrors are created.
People might take you more seriously if you learn proper spelling and punctuation. If you hate what she is doing, don't watch. She is wearing a modest shirt, so cover up what? You call her stupid & disagree with her arguments but you provide no reasons for it or even reasons why she is wrong. Maybe you hate her because you know she is right?
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maybe if you saww the shitt she said about abortion, you would understand. she put her pride before the life of a child- who was her own flesh and blood. dont say i have no reasons, because i do, shes a bad role model for all those thinking about abortion. she killed her baby, LIVE. who the heck does that, huh?? and posts it on youtube + twitter . she said abortion was just like a misscarriage, but its not. im 14 and im pissed of because stupid ADULTS arent a better example for us younger kids
One, she put her life before that of something that may or may not eventually become a living being. More pregnancies end in miscarriages than carry to term. Second, miscarriages used to be called abortions, but now medical personel use the term "miscarriage" or "spontaneous abortion" to differentiate between them. She took a pill that caused her to miscarry. So her abortion was exactly like a "miscarriage".
Third, if she tried to carry that fetus to term and died in her third trimester, her baby would have died too. So now you would have two dead "people" and an orphaned son. By having an abortion, she guaranteed she would be alive to raise the son she does have. Maybe when you are older you will understand that things aren't so black & white as they seemm to be.
@grlsopranoz Ok, being 14, you need to finish your education. You don't know what you're talking about. If she had tried to carry her baby to term, they BOTH would have died. Would you be happy then? RU486 is an "induced miscarriage" so it IS exactly what she said. It was a miscarriage. She didn't kill a baby, she discarded a 1/2 cm sized mass of cells. I had my gall bladder removed and the gallstones were bigger than that. It wasn't a baby. It would have been a death sentence for her.
@grlsopranoz BTW, you are pissed because "stupid adults" aren't a better example. Well.. then... BE the example yourself. Don't get mad at what you can't control (i.e. other people's personal lives)... Control your own life and BE THE EXAMPLE.
angie a lot of people are pulling for you ,,,shake them haters off, im kinda glad insane people still exist thou its fun to read all these people posting you can just see their faces boiling oh i love it ...this is the best thing ever on youtube i cant wait till the big day
Oh my goodness, finally someone who can put into words what I try to explain to people. Angie, you are on my heros list for life. Thank you for being you.
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Hmmm, interesting. Human Rights? Oh, you mean the right's of those that YOU consider to be human in the first place. Man relativism is AWESOME! I wish a society could actually function under such a thing because it would be so cool to just make up crap as you go. How can you even have a debate on something that doesn't exist for you. And how do we know that what you consider right or wrong one day isn't going to change in a day or two. Isn't it all relative to your situation??
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I find it funny how these vehemently anti-Christian "progressives"( read: neo-marxists) don't hesitate to lambast Christianity, yet rarely if ever criticize Islam or Muslims - even though most Islamic societies have extremely strict laws against abortions and homosexuality.
It's probably because they don't want to risk being labeled as "racists" - similar to how all the White libs in California seem to ignore all the blacks/hispanics that voted against gay marriage.
@8cricketts - Statements like that just reinforce my opinion that "progressives" really do live in some sort of fantasy world.
I mean do you really believe what you just wrote? In a large percentage of Islamic countries homosexuality is punishable by DEATH, yet people like you bitch about Christians not wanting queers to adopt children.
The countries in the world where religious freedom is the most secure are the countries which have had a historical Christian presence.
I did read what you wrote. We are in the U.S., and in the U.S., Christians are louder in their complaints. I was responding to your statement that anti-Christian progressives "rarely if ever criticize Islam or Muslims" but lambast Christianity. Progressives in the US lambast Christianity more than Islam because Christians are louder in the US. So my statement is still true and I really believe what I just wrote. That doesn't mean Christianity is better or worse than Islam.
Did you mentally block out where I wrote that "most Islamic societies have extremely strict laws against abortions and homosexuality"? Research the issue if you doubt it, since you're apparently oblivious to what goes on in the rest of the world.
Type "15 year old gay couple executed by slow strangulation for sodomy in Iran" in your search engine. Pretty gruesome images. I don't like faggots - but I sure as hell don't want to murder them.
I have absolutely no doubt that Islam is extremely violent. Just like Christianity used to be. Nothing in my statement ever suggested that I didn't think Islam was violent. Once again, I was making a statement on why progressives in the US seem to be more anti-Christianity than anti-Muslim. Give it a couple of years and Islam will be right up there with Christianity in the minds of the progressives.
That seems reasonable, I'm pretty much on the same page as you with that one. I'm an ex- Christian myself( pretty much consider myself to be an agnostic Pagan, if that makes any sense), I just never really felt any sort of hostility towards the faith when I came to the conclusion that all religious doctrines were man made and irrational. Of course I'm still socially conservative morally speaking, so that probably has something to do with it. My apologies.
great video!!!! very well said,I couldn't agree more with what you've said.what we do on this earth is what we do for ourselves and others to make it better.All we have to do is leave religion out of it.
i dont know what you use to record yourself BUT if you had the camera angel from below and up it would make you seem bigger and when you talk it will give your words more meaning..
Angie, love ya, reason why they stick up for their God is that, first, they don't think they have a choice about the nature of God. In their favor, if their were a God, they wouldn't. Second, Christian salvation is based specifically on belief. They judge themselves by how solid their belief is. So, they will think of any scheming excuse to believe and do so as much as possible. So, they see criticism as a danger, and ignorance as a way of keeping their faith.
@Poseidon500 usually the term anti-theist means you dont like the idea of theism. not that you hate theists. like hitchens always bitches about how horrid it would be if there was a god.
To all u people who wanna live by the bible. If ur a ugly ass dude and u wanna bag a hot bride all u have to do is rape her then pay her dad 50 shilings. And hey let's bring back slaves. And stone people. Man whatever happened to the good old days.
I subscribed two weeks ago but I still can't find myself among the subscriber pages! I went through all 22 pages--twice. This makes me very sad. Can you advise?
Rape is always wrong because objective morals exist. You can't claim that rape is always wrong and that morality is subjective. If it's subjective it's just opinion and rape is no more "always" wrong than beige is "always" the wrong color for your wallpaper.
Your allegiance to subjective morality harms your cause. You can't simultaneously argue against evil and argue that it doesn't really exist or is the product of belief. A belief about other people's belief is unconvincing.
i like the way people see god as a he lmao to me god is a creation of man in order to create control over a mass of people through the medium of lies and nonsense,why do people believe in such rubbish,wake up there is no god,one things for sure with all your good gods and thats the fact that they all cause wars that kill people,so if anything its the worst sorta evil you can get,so screw the bible/religion and all that is holy!!!do animals go to heaven or hell?No! so how are we so differient eh?
I don't think you thought of it at the time, but the angle of the camera might be a bit demeaning for a woman talking about such a serious issue, if you know what I mean... lol
wtf ur a fucking loser who says /<(slash) blahblahblah? and ur name os lethal sword wow u are a fucking no life loser i bet go play ur fucking mmo or something...
What is "objective" can become confusing due to whether one takes an inside or outside observer perspective. Naturally, any very detailed system of rules and laws regarding proper behavior is going to have a mechanical nature which can interfere with making good judgments in real time if such rules are highly precise and are followed "by the book." I like the example of driving a vehicle in extreme conditions as what it means to "be objective" and to survive as well as serve the company.
What is often called "objective" can be better described as "mechanical," or as the slavish following of rules as if the law is God. Removing oneself from the picture to "be objective" can amount to removing oneself as a responsible moral agent. One curious observation I made in High School was how much more rowdy the nearby students were from a Catholic High School than from my own, as if their efforts to conform to strict rules had undermined their own moral agent status.
The cornerstones of religion - faith, freewill, and vicarious redemption - are all evil. God's plan is ridiculous. Eternal reward or punishment for finite deeds is immoral. God says he created evil, he commits evil acts, and orders others to engage in evil. God's refusal to reveal himself in any meaningful way and then expect us to believe he exists is laughable.
You put the camera up and wore a low cut shirt because... you want to distract me from the argument with your boobs... It's working. We weren't arguing, but I'll start one right now if you respond to me like this.
ok the bible is written by christens. What ur talking about is the Torah, Which was written several thousand years before the bible came. the bible was written about a hundred years after jesus died. maby you should actually read the Torah and learn what it says before you say things like you are lying. at least then you would have a solid argument to make when you are about the bible and what the Torah, Or the old testament differences. also slavery is bad no matter who is slave and master.
If a man is caught in the act of raping a young woman who is not engaged, he must pay fifty pieces of silver to her father. Then he must marry the young woman because he violated her, and he will never be allowed to divorce her.
You're wrong about rape angie! The creator of the universe told us in his book of perfect morality that rape victims must marry their rapist, so he can RAPE THEM SOME MORE!! lolol.. Do you Christians reading this even know what is in your bible??
I could be wrong, but did I detect some dawkins in your argument? Could just be common arguments but a few things sounded familiar (reading TGD now, btw).
Anyway bitchin vid either way. def gonna b on the lookout 4 more.
Wow, brilliant metaphor about God and the abusive husband. That's pretty much always been my view on it but until now I've lacked the proper metaphor to really sum it up simply and accurately.
Sorry my fellow countryman, that's a presumption based on a few lines of ancient historical fiction and a people's creation myth designed to rally together a few feuding mountain and desert tribes. Just like the one that goes something something..."let my people go" ...something something.
The exodus was bullshit, they didn't even know the name of the pharaoh at that time, while at least they got the names of the Babylonian rulers right. The Hebrews were set free by the Persians, they even gave Cyrus the Great the title of Messiah. Which is pretty amazing for these xenophobes.
Don't assume that just because the flood and the virgin birth are myths that everything in the bible is.
That's what makes it "historical fiction" by definition. A little bit of reality sprinkled over a lot of fiction, with a healthy heapin' helpin' of name dropping just to give it more cred and drama.
Historical fact aside, the" point" of the bible, the reason it was cobbled together and created in the first place, was for the above reason, and for that reason, historical evidence is not relevant. It's a manifesto and a constitution.
Sweet. Yes the attitude of the character of the god/s in the Bible are pretty revolting when compared with modern moral standards. For example, Moses ordering 40,000 of the people he led out of Egypt to be killed because they worshiped a golden calf seems a bit harsh. I bet they weren't too happy that this God led them out of slavery to be slaughtered in the desert for their religious beliefs. I guess they learned their lesson.
I think the cornestone of your morality, Angie, from what I have seen so far is empathy and your own ability to reason. For example, there are no rights set down in law that prevent your kid from going to sunday school where his head can be filled with crap, but you would object to it. Keep it up.
O yeah, and that empathy is usually a consequence of an open mind, which is informed through literature and honest discussion. It is also capable of being updated and scrutinised in ways which a religion is not. Laws only change when we change.
Agreed, But 'Thank' is a strong word, since there's no one to hear our thanks, I simply appreciate that we lost that vestigial social organ called forced servitude (or did we?).
If i could thank anything, i'd thank waterborne plagues for helping my genetic precursors in developing alcohol tolerance, I'd thank the meteor that killed the dinosaurs for giving mammals its chance at inventing stone tools and diet pepsi. I thank all drivers who ever stopped at a red light, thus not killing me.
Dear all loving God, you stated that it is wrong to beat a slave if they die in a day or two. Can you please clarify; is it one day or two days? A "friend" of mine kind of has gotten himself in a situation and wants to know if what he did is just. If his slave only held on another day or two it would have so obviously been a just action. Stupid slaves; no wonder we are allowed to beat them.
Without slavery, there would be no pyramids; there would have been no Roman roads for later Christians to use to propagate their silly beliefs. The American economy would not have boomed after a few rich landowners declared their independence IN 1776. We, as a species, owe much to slavery, sure it's bad and immoral, but it's been pretty useful.
Morality is a very recent luxury. We owe a debt to the billions who lived lives of abject horror and suffering so that we may sit on this high horse.
There is no evidence that the pyramids were built by slaves. There is no evidence or reason to suppose that slavery is requisite for an economy. We have better economies now without slavery.
Asserting something doesn't make it so. Your point about morality isn't well served with factual inacuracies. We could have had the high horse without slavery. In fact, it is arguable, that we could have had it much sooner.
Look it doesn't matter, this is youtube, where everybody is right and everybody has the data to back up what they're saying assuming they're not too lazy to dig it up. Which I am. You want to learn about Pyramids and the growth of the agricultural pre-industrial American economy, go the library, look up some primary documents, guaranteed to be more convincing than anything i type in 300 characters here.
You want to think we're inherently noble, more power to you. I too once wished it were so.
I never said that we're inherently noble. That's a straw man and a red herring. Patronizing me isn't an argument and accusing me of ignorance is simply an ad hominem.
If you are too lazy to support your claims then perhaps you sholdn't make them.
No... wait... I read that book too, it's called "Every thing I leared, I leared from watching You Tube". Ad hominems? straw men...? I swear I LOLed. No really, That is just adorable.
BTW: Isn't this the same game the theists play? When they get called on their claims they engage in logical fallacy. When they get called on that they shift to rhetorical games.
i hate slavery and rape and honestly i think anyone who would do either should not have been born
CrotainProductions 2 weeks ago
I think Angie,s hatred of God is really a hatred of her parents . Angie , if any child you carry is lucky enough to survive full term please allow it a free will . Do not make the same mistakes as your parents .
LuluRosenkrantz 1 month ago
Did you bother to note that the first born egyptians were killed because pharoah ordered first born of Hebrews were to be killed. so you say God is bad but pharoah is good. shut the fuck up
foxtrot1162 1 month ago
Human rights? really angie hahaha, what about the rights of your unborn child what fucking voice did he/she have. your fucking amazing i mean you really are. You want to talk about moral codes abortion is an immoral code. what you do is moral i dont think so angie keep trying to convince people of that one and the only people who will listen to you are other crazies like you.
foxtrot1162 1 month ago
id pound that ass with no loob....
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blah blah blah. noone wants to see your boobs. oh! and you're still an attention whore. noone wants to hear about your rapes and abortions. weirdo.
savageveg 2 months ago
@savageveg Make some sense I beg you!
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gosh i hate u sooooo much!
killing babies is mad man!
mariofan6100 3 months ago
WOO RAPE SLAVERY!
inconsistanttruth 3 months ago
umm actually Gods "chosen ppl" were in slavory
need2lovealways 3 months ago
Must be infuriating to read words that you supposedly said. I would be pissed if someone told me I said something when I didn't say or condone any holy or unholy act.
Rinsuki 4 months ago
People love to be slaves. How many people do you know who don't want to be told what to do, when to do it, and how to do it. Especially by an invisible fictitious powerless entity. Secular Humanism is a comprehensive life stance that focuses on the way human beings can lead happy and functional lives and are capable of being ethical and moral without religion or a God.
Pigseye 5 months ago
You're hot,i'm gonna make YOU my sex slave *evil laugh*
ReaperWithFangs 8 months ago
Christians confuse "objective" with "dictated by authority". Far from being objective, Christian morality originated from barbaric iron age savages, not from a supreme being. They in turn hold this morality as a matter of faith just as they do god's existence. You could not invent a more non-objective and irrational approach to the very subject of morality.
socksumi 10 months ago
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I'm not sure if she realizes this but she has a smudge of dirt on her face. I am deeply sorry for the lack of mirrors in her house. I hope she reads this and immediately removes the smudge with a paper towel soaked in hot water.
Mystified012 1 year ago
@Mystified012 Honestly, what is it with Christians and attacks to physical appearance? Don't you think god "intelligently designed" me with the moles on my face? Who are you to question his handiwork, eh?
AngieAntiTheist 1 year ago 15
@AngieAntiTheist >implying I'm a Christian
FlerpDerpHerp 1 year ago
@FlerpDerpHerp Thanks for letting us know this is your sock puppet account Mystified012. Really bright troll you are!
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fluffy6756 10 months ago
@AngieAntiTheist first you say you dont believe in God then you say who are you to question Gods work when he made you. Do you know that everyone except those who are nuts like you think you a joke just look at comments on your videos. alot of ppl hate you, they think your crazy mentally challenged. honestly your ex should have the parental rights because he cant be nearly a bad as you. your kid will need mental health help bc a cooky mother rasied him. i feel bad foryour child
foxtrot1162 1 month ago
@foxtrot1162 Well, I bet some people also think that YOU are crazy mentally challenged. I would never, after all you are such a shining example of christian virtues like "Love thy Neighbor", "who is without sin cast the first stone" and "judge not, lest ye be judged"... wait! You aren't! Well, it seems like you don't believe in some of the New Testament's teachings either...
Vigilluminatus 1 week ago
@Vigilluminatus Yeah insane idiots like you who condone murder think im nuts. im simply fighting her evil its called an eye for an eye its also in the bible. And what i said was factual ppl do hate her most ppl are not defending her most are telling her she is wrong immoral and evil so my statement was based on the facts i guess you would argue against that one though too. keep up the great work baby killer. yes by supporting murder of the unborn you are just as guilty.
foxtrot1162 1 week ago
@foxtrot1162 So, following your logic, if someone kills Angie, you are guilty of murder too by wishing her death? And if all the New-Testament-forgiveness-stuff isn't quite yours, why don't you become Jew? They're happy with just Old Testament books. Then I guess, the Jews don't deserve that...
As long as you blend out the risk to her life and I think that the life of the mother is more important than that of a not-even-fetus (that might STILL have died with it's mother), this gets nowhere.
Vigilluminatus 1 week ago
@Vigilluminatus How can you come one here and talk to me about murder and preach the bible when you condone the murder of the unborn. And i am not going to become a jew they are not going to get salvation they deny the lord Jesus and deny the new testamant. its called new testamant for a reason The ne agreement with mankind. jews are stubborn and think there old ways of sacrifice are still accepted by God for salvation but Jesus paid that price already.
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If you are interested, check out the free book "Universally Preferable Behavior: A Rational Proof of Secular Ethics," by Stefan Molyneux. It argues that morality is not subjective.
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if you dont want to be raped use this advice do not look really good when your walking an ally at night no offence but your showing to much. Just bring a knife with you at all times so you can cut his balls and make it bleed lol.
kirasaviorkira 1 year ago
@kirasaviorkira You're placing all the responsibility for not getting raped on women, not on rapists? Since when did I need to wear a burqa in the US to avoid being raped? Think about what you're saying.
AngieAntiTheist 1 year ago 17
@AngieAntiTheist Are you implying this person can think for themselves?
logansrun1980 1 year ago
i love the abusive relationship analogy. defending your indefensible god.
brilliant!
petephuduh 1 year ago
hey you know what honey, maybe people will take your ramblings more seriously if you didn't hold your "puppies" out in the open. By puppies i mean your cleavage
IamMaxPaynee 1 year ago
@IamMaxPaynee And how about you actually listen to her words and stop staring at her tits. Have some self control man. They're tits. Get over it.
logansrun1980 1 year ago 2
women shouldn't be allowed to vote, and for that matter they should be shoved in cages and only let out to be raped.
savemyplaylist 1 year ago
@savemyplaylist
I can't tell if your making horrible sexist joke or being real. Clarifaction is needed.
Kitsune1414 1 year ago
@Kitsune1414 I'm hoping savemyplaylist was going for a facetious statement.
logansrun1980 1 year ago
This is going on my facebook...
rayatherockstar 1 year ago
She's asking for it
snuckles108 1 year ago
if I was an owner of 100, million, quadrillion,,(add multiple here) ant farms, I probably wouldn't give a damn about any single farm over any other.
Oddly, people are closer to being ants than any defined god would be to people.
WisdomVendor 1 year ago
@WisdomVendor my meaning is, an all powerful god wouldn't create something so insignificant as us in comparison to himself.
It would be like being a master at chess and creating an opponent that was born deaf and blind, and then saying "your move"
WisdomVendor 1 year ago
Why do atheists look like ugly dykes and christians good looking ? Just an observation.
PikSokolit 1 year ago
@PikSokolit Have you seen some of the Christians out there? Tammy Faye was a gentle soul but she looked like Divine's stunt double.
And here's a better question: Why are Christians such uptight pervs and atheists so much more comfortable with their sexuality? Just an observation.
logansrun1980 1 year ago
smart, beatiful, great cleavage, and i agree 100%... wanna make me a sandwich?
goudz23 1 year ago
@goudz23 Um, if I'm so great, shouldn't you be making ME a sandwich? I like ham and swiss.
AngieAntiTheist 1 year ago 4
@AngieAntiTheist haha touche youll take turkey and american and like it!
goudz23 1 year ago
@AngieAntiTheist Angie, I'd make you a sandwich any day! As a matter of fact, I'd cook you my best dinner, open up a fresh bottle of top shelf wine, and just treat you like queen! : ) You deserve it! : )))
flyingshitter 1 year ago
btw almost didn't mention (sorry!) I'm very sorry you had to experience something like that, I've been close to unwilling rape victims when they were getting over it (i.e. talking about it) and it sounds pretty much like the worst experience ever. Torture, sometimes extreme. People who aren't crushed by not seeing a smile on their partner's face afterward are generally psychopaths.
MusicIan423 1 year ago
awesome video, as for rape however I still believe it's dependent on the will of the woman; girls who like rape fantasies don't want to be lightly brushed, and don't want to expect it. They still exist too. However it's very hard to tell if they desire it and so as a rule I would suggest to people interested to get consent before sneaking in in the middle of the night or whatever ;)
MusicIan423 1 year ago
Very well said, Angie.you can speak your mind and everyone listens.I speak mine and get banned. your awesome!!!
ashatbulaparanormal 1 year ago
like at the time. Socially acceptable and expected so that's what the bible talks about it. (it was written by PEOPLE and not God)
'sides, being diest i believe that the bible is merely an extremely old fantasized version of what might have happened to explain the morals of the day1
SPNSamDean84 1 year ago
I agree on almost everything you're saying. Except the whole dissing on Christians part. Their faith is defensible and if they don't take everything completely literally and so forth, isn't such a bad book to follow. You just gotta keep in mind that the bible has been politicized and rewritten the crap out of it and that the stories are very much probably inaccurate. However I think the basic morals that the bible provides are sound. The stuff like slavery is simply what the social statuses were
SPNSamDean84 1 year ago
@SPNSamDean84 Love that one, the Christians are defensible as long as they don't take the Bible literally. Really? Lets say I gave you a manual to put a bike together. But I told you, don't take it too literal. How many people would put the bike together properly?
Here's the truth: Christianity works the same way racism, class-ism, and even anorexia does. Indoctrination. How powerful is repeated indoctrination? Look at the Scientology ( the most ridiculous of all "sane" religions).
johnnytluxury 1 year ago
Bike manuals and the Bible aren't even on the same level, so comparing them is really pointless.
My point was that Christianity isn't a bad thing. It's only bad when they use the bible to commit evil acts. That's all I meant really.
SPNSamDean84 1 year ago
@johnnytluxury Youre missing the point, and obviously why it seems easy for you to agree with the Bible. The point is the Bible is not a manual you can decide to take or not take literally. Because what you decide should discarded (slavery, killing, et c.) another will not, and they will take what they want literal. If God wrote a manual on how to build a bike (how to grow as a civilization and worship him), you cant pick and choose what you feel is relevant. Same manual for everyone.
johnnytluxury 1 year ago
@johnnytluxury First time I've seen "Scientology" and "sane" in the same sentence.
atimnie 1 year ago
This is not a video about abortion. Please find one of the six videos that IS about abortion to leave your abortion-related comments. This video is about the Bible, slavery, and rape. Please keep comments on topic. Thank you!
AngieAntiTheist 1 year ago 2
8crickets- what's the defending for? You twins with her?
azzi923 1 year ago
ahahahaha... what's this all for??? Popularity??? Duh! Get a Life!
azzi923 1 year ago
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nice cleavage to get views, you damn whore. now tilt the cam down a bit and show us your tight glowing pussy.
jkdbdshjcbsdhjc 1 year ago
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how long did it take you to set up your camera, lol. what a ho
knappydanny 1 year ago
My question is how can we get this crap of hers off youtube...She is to unstable to be preaching...She is funny
stitsenj 1 year ago
i love u. be at peace!
zestrus11 1 year ago
I believe there is God. Not the book God but a Being God. The Bible is an attempt by humans to put into words the God inspiration that intended us here. Sometimes the humans get it right sometimes they don't. Stop debating the exsitence of God...that's how human caused horrors are created.
maxclapham 1 year ago
I'm not sure how the debate around the existence of God causes horrors - more like the debate about WHICH god is the right god causes horrors.
landfillpoet 1 year ago
@landfillpoet Yeah, I see your point and your clarification is the right one. Thanks.
maxclapham 1 year ago
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@landfillpoet Yeah, I see your point and your clarification is the right one. Thanks.
maxclapham 1 year ago
this woman is incredibly smart!! She doesn't blindly follow what a book written thousands of years ago says.
ugboy1 1 year ago 4
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wtf r you on your nees are you praying, do you feel guilty for killing your unborn child!
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grlsopranoz 1 year ago
and you are a whinny gimp.
Waage83 1 year ago
People might take you more seriously if you learn proper spelling and punctuation. If you hate what she is doing, don't watch. She is wearing a modest shirt, so cover up what? You call her stupid & disagree with her arguments but you provide no reasons for it or even reasons why she is wrong. Maybe you hate her because you know she is right?
8cricketts 1 year ago
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maybe if you saww the shitt she said about abortion, you would understand. she put her pride before the life of a child- who was her own flesh and blood. dont say i have no reasons, because i do, shes a bad role model for all those thinking about abortion. she killed her baby, LIVE. who the heck does that, huh?? and posts it on youtube + twitter . she said abortion was just like a misscarriage, but its not. im 14 and im pissed of because stupid ADULTS arent a better example for us younger kids
grlsopranoz 1 year ago
One, she put her life before that of something that may or may not eventually become a living being. More pregnancies end in miscarriages than carry to term. Second, miscarriages used to be called abortions, but now medical personel use the term "miscarriage" or "spontaneous abortion" to differentiate between them. She took a pill that caused her to miscarry. So her abortion was exactly like a "miscarriage".
8cricketts 1 year ago 4
Third, if she tried to carry that fetus to term and died in her third trimester, her baby would have died too. So now you would have two dead "people" and an orphaned son. By having an abortion, she guaranteed she would be alive to raise the son she does have. Maybe when you are older you will understand that things aren't so black & white as they seemm to be.
8cricketts 1 year ago 22
@grlsopranoz Ok, being 14, you need to finish your education. You don't know what you're talking about. If she had tried to carry her baby to term, they BOTH would have died. Would you be happy then? RU486 is an "induced miscarriage" so it IS exactly what she said. It was a miscarriage. She didn't kill a baby, she discarded a 1/2 cm sized mass of cells. I had my gall bladder removed and the gallstones were bigger than that. It wasn't a baby. It would have been a death sentence for her.
SnakeladyGreta 1 year ago 3
@grlsopranoz BTW, you are pissed because "stupid adults" aren't a better example. Well.. then... BE the example yourself. Don't get mad at what you can't control (i.e. other people's personal lives)... Control your own life and BE THE EXAMPLE.
SnakeladyGreta 1 year ago 4
angie a lot of people are pulling for you ,,,shake them haters off, im kinda glad insane people still exist thou its fun to read all these people posting you can just see their faces boiling oh i love it ...this is the best thing ever on youtube i cant wait till the big day
bearlooter 1 year ago
Oh my goodness, finally someone who can put into words what I try to explain to people. Angie, you are on my heros list for life. Thank you for being you.
--callisto
deepestregret 1 year ago 5
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Hmmm, interesting. Human Rights? Oh, you mean the right's of those that YOU consider to be human in the first place. Man relativism is AWESOME! I wish a society could actually function under such a thing because it would be so cool to just make up crap as you go. How can you even have a debate on something that doesn't exist for you. And how do we know that what you consider right or wrong one day isn't going to change in a day or two. Isn't it all relative to your situation??
ThePeopleStrikeBack 1 year ago
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I find it funny how these vehemently anti-Christian "progressives"( read: neo-marxists) don't hesitate to lambast Christianity, yet rarely if ever criticize Islam or Muslims - even though most Islamic societies have extremely strict laws against abortions and homosexuality.
It's probably because they don't want to risk being labeled as "racists" - similar to how all the White libs in California seem to ignore all the blacks/hispanics that voted against gay marriage.
ILoveSpanishQueen 1 year ago
Or it could be that Muslims aren't trying to impose their beliefs on others as much as Christianity does. The squeeky wheel gets the oil.
8cricketts 1 year ago 2
@8cricketts - Statements like that just reinforce my opinion that "progressives" really do live in some sort of fantasy world.
I mean do you really believe what you just wrote? In a large percentage of Islamic countries homosexuality is punishable by DEATH, yet people like you bitch about Christians not wanting queers to adopt children.
The countries in the world where religious freedom is the most secure are the countries which have had a historical Christian presence.
ILoveSpanishQueen 1 year ago
I did read what you wrote. We are in the U.S., and in the U.S., Christians are louder in their complaints. I was responding to your statement that anti-Christian progressives "rarely if ever criticize Islam or Muslims" but lambast Christianity. Progressives in the US lambast Christianity more than Islam because Christians are louder in the US. So my statement is still true and I really believe what I just wrote. That doesn't mean Christianity is better or worse than Islam.
8cricketts 1 year ago 2
Did you mentally block out where I wrote that "most Islamic societies have extremely strict laws against abortions and homosexuality"? Research the issue if you doubt it, since you're apparently oblivious to what goes on in the rest of the world.
Type "15 year old gay couple executed by slow strangulation for sodomy in Iran" in your search engine. Pretty gruesome images. I don't like faggots - but I sure as hell don't want to murder them.
ILoveSpanishQueen 1 year ago
I have absolutely no doubt that Islam is extremely violent. Just like Christianity used to be. Nothing in my statement ever suggested that I didn't think Islam was violent. Once again, I was making a statement on why progressives in the US seem to be more anti-Christianity than anti-Muslim. Give it a couple of years and Islam will be right up there with Christianity in the minds of the progressives.
8cricketts 1 year ago 2
That seems reasonable, I'm pretty much on the same page as you with that one. I'm an ex- Christian myself( pretty much consider myself to be an agnostic Pagan, if that makes any sense), I just never really felt any sort of hostility towards the faith when I came to the conclusion that all religious doctrines were man made and irrational. Of course I'm still socially conservative morally speaking, so that probably has something to do with it. My apologies.
ILoveSpanishQueen 1 year ago
No problem.
8cricketts 1 year ago
@AngieAntiThiest...
You base your morals around human rights?
Yet you can kill your child?
Doesn't that human have rights, too?
Obviously not...
Radio1128 1 year ago
What's that with he death threats now?
Poseidon500 1 year ago
Parts of the bible have been proven true on a historical bases . i dont see why people would make shit up and tell the truth at the same time .
jordler 1 year ago
wich parts ???
Draehorx 1 year ago 3
great video!!!! very well said,I couldn't agree more with what you've said.what we do on this earth is what we do for ourselves and others to make it better.All we have to do is leave religion out of it.
ashatbulaparanormal 1 year ago 3
i dont know what you use to record yourself BUT if you had the camera angel from below and up it would make you seem bigger and when you talk it will give your words more meaning..
eatbeavers 1 year ago
Angie, love ya, reason why they stick up for their God is that, first, they don't think they have a choice about the nature of God. In their favor, if their were a God, they wouldn't. Second, Christian salvation is based specifically on belief. They judge themselves by how solid their belief is. So, they will think of any scheming excuse to believe and do so as much as possible. So, they see criticism as a danger, and ignorance as a way of keeping their faith.
wentshow 1 year ago 3
haha your self important douchebaggery know no bounds
thundersmoke88 1 year ago
I am not self important at all you insluting prick.
Poseidon500 1 year ago
You still have a Yottube account after this comment?
Not for long.
Poseidon500 1 year ago
@Poseidon500 Hooray for censorship and immaturity.
DuggabbooDC 1 year ago
Piss off.
Poseidon500 1 year ago
And I am a theist and tis bitch is anti-me.
Also, from what i can see from the comments here, her audicence appears to be hatefull morons.
I am not immature for telling it how it is.
Poseidon500 1 year ago
@Poseidon500 usually the term anti-theist means you dont like the idea of theism. not that you hate theists. like hitchens always bitches about how horrid it would be if there was a god.
but hes not saying how horrid theists are.
Ilikenuman 1 year ago 3
Well man, it seems that way to me.
Poseidon500 1 year ago
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come on, I waw 1/2 with this twit to the end, but really??? like any guy would ever rape somthing like this.
the bitch just fales bragging
ORVX 1 year ago
To all u people who wanna live by the bible. If ur a ugly ass dude and u wanna bag a hot bride all u have to do is rape her then pay her dad 50 shilings. And hey let's bring back slaves. And stone people. Man whatever happened to the good old days.
deadsnowman83 1 year ago
Great video!
turtle2hug 1 year ago
God comes down from the heavens to earth and reads the Holy Bible and Koran for a while then says "Who wrote this shit?".
GunShard 1 year ago 17
Not about the video.
Angie! You're the greatest!
I subscribed two weeks ago but I still can't find myself among the subscriber pages! I went through all 22 pages--twice. This makes me very sad. Can you advise?
markholiday247 1 year ago
Rape is always wrong because objective morals exist. You can't claim that rape is always wrong and that morality is subjective. If it's subjective it's just opinion and rape is no more "always" wrong than beige is "always" the wrong color for your wallpaper.
Your allegiance to subjective morality harms your cause. You can't simultaneously argue against evil and argue that it doesn't really exist or is the product of belief. A belief about other people's belief is unconvincing.
newperve 1 year ago
i like the way people see god as a he lmao to me god is a creation of man in order to create control over a mass of people through the medium of lies and nonsense,why do people believe in such rubbish,wake up there is no god,one things for sure with all your good gods and thats the fact that they all cause wars that kill people,so if anything its the worst sorta evil you can get,so screw the bible/religion and all that is holy!!!do animals go to heaven or hell?No! so how are we so differient eh?
stevenjefferies2000 1 year ago 2
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poopyscoopy5 1 year ago
Will you be my god!If there was a god, i would want god to look like you!
21cglock 1 year ago
I like the video, but do it in a different room next time. The echo aggravates me.
Hyperlot 1 year ago
Extreme angled boob shot distracts me. But i agree tho.
suchi4free 1 year ago 3
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clashx9 1 year ago
HA! XD love the first born thing with the abortion :P
Sal0pe69 1 year ago
I don't think you thought of it at the time, but the angle of the camera might be a bit demeaning for a woman talking about such a serious issue, if you know what I mean... lol
DaedalusReturned 1 year ago
i am actually glad i clicked on this video 5/5 subscribed
colonshaguar 1 year ago 3
hmmmm do u think she pointed the camera at her titties on purpose???? hmmmmm think about it
colonshaguar 1 year ago
Good video...
ignorant comments
abaconator2662 1 year ago 2
/fap
goddamn it's all over my keyboard...
fakeandgay69 1 year ago
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Too long, did not listen.
Jiggle, jiggle. *fap* *fap*
iPhap 1 year ago
It's tl;dr idiot
thecreepyguy 1 year ago
No.
iPhap 1 year ago
yes
thecreepyguy 1 year ago
Wrong.
iPhap 1 year ago
nice boobs
and message
but really nice boobs
Redrio 1 year ago 7
exactly.. next time please less clothing !
burnmaker01 1 year ago
she is a Salesman of Salvation, you should listen to her heathens :D
Skibbaaa 1 year ago
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Idea: Shut up and use that mouth for something more useful. /remove pants
LethalSword 1 year ago
wtf ur a fucking loser who says /<(slash) blahblahblah? and ur name os lethal sword wow u are a fucking no life loser i bet go play ur fucking mmo or something...
colonshaguar 1 year ago
@colonshaguar LOLOLOOLOL
LethalSword 1 year ago
u know its true....
colonshaguar 1 year ago
What is "objective" can become confusing due to whether one takes an inside or outside observer perspective. Naturally, any very detailed system of rules and laws regarding proper behavior is going to have a mechanical nature which can interfere with making good judgments in real time if such rules are highly precise and are followed "by the book." I like the example of driving a vehicle in extreme conditions as what it means to "be objective" and to survive as well as serve the company.
gedgetips 1 year ago
What is often called "objective" can be better described as "mechanical," or as the slavish following of rules as if the law is God. Removing oneself from the picture to "be objective" can amount to removing oneself as a responsible moral agent. One curious observation I made in High School was how much more rowdy the nearby students were from a Catholic High School than from my own, as if their efforts to conform to strict rules had undermined their own moral agent status.
gedgetips 1 year ago
5/5 diggin you videos.. On a side note.. Will you marry me??
sadistacation 1 year ago
holy crap how insecure are you retards?
pathetic...
SkunkyNugz420 1 year ago
The cornerstones of religion - faith, freewill, and vicarious redemption - are all evil. God's plan is ridiculous. Eternal reward or punishment for finite deeds is immoral. God says he created evil, he commits evil acts, and orders others to engage in evil. God's refusal to reveal himself in any meaningful way and then expect us to believe he exists is laughable.
caposton 1 year ago
I had to listen to you twice because I kept getting distracted for some reason - lol. I agree though. Nicely done.
caposton 1 year ago
i can see your boobs...................sorry
LeM8oR 1 year ago
You put the camera up and wore a low cut shirt because... you want to distract me from the argument with your boobs... It's working. We weren't arguing, but I'll start one right now if you respond to me like this.
aclose78 1 year ago
boobs
obentozai 1 year ago 3
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joedude91 1 year ago
ok the bible is written by christens. What ur talking about is the Torah, Which was written several thousand years before the bible came. the bible was written about a hundred years after jesus died. maby you should actually read the Torah and learn what it says before you say things like you are lying. at least then you would have a solid argument to make when you are about the bible and what the Torah, Or the old testament differences. also slavery is bad no matter who is slave and master.
littleruningboy 1 year ago
did you deliberately pose like this so people could imagine what it would be liked to get sucked off by you?
fuckislam123 1 year ago
@fuckislam123 who cares if she did it on purpose! it definitely worked (jizz all over my keyboard)
RaidyrKohlan 1 year ago
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Deuteronomy 22:28-29
If a man is caught in the act of raping a young woman who is not engaged, he must pay fifty pieces of silver to her father. Then he must marry the young woman because he violated her, and he will never be allowed to divorce her.
You're wrong about rape angie! The creator of the universe told us in his book of perfect morality that rape victims must marry their rapist, so he can RAPE THEM SOME MORE!! lolol.. Do you Christians reading this even know what is in your bible??
bdwilson1000 1 year ago 2
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bdwilson1000 1 year ago
Because God didn't write the bible.
GeorgeDeadson 1 year ago
Fuck yes.
I could be wrong, but did I detect some dawkins in your argument? Could just be common arguments but a few things sounded familiar (reading TGD now, btw).
Anyway bitchin vid either way. def gonna b on the lookout 4 more.
12GaugeSteel 1 year ago
Can't take you serious with that camera angle
FailAtGame 1 year ago
Wow, brilliant metaphor about God and the abusive husband. That's pretty much always been my view on it but until now I've lacked the proper metaphor to really sum it up simply and accurately.
Unwardil 1 year ago 3
boobs + anti theist = epic win, they're gonna love you and by they I mean the youtube atheist community
NewtonsStudent 1 year ago 4
I dont get most of the comments here, but I just wanted to let you know.
1 You are an amazing person
2 your opinoins matter
3 Keep fighting the fight anganst ignorance.
Peace and 5 stars to you....
Can101276 1 year ago 3
The Isrealites were also slaves in Babylon and this is a historical fact.
donpepe90 1 year ago
Sorry my fellow countryman, that's a presumption based on a few lines of ancient historical fiction and a people's creation myth designed to rally together a few feuding mountain and desert tribes. Just like the one that goes something something..."let my people go" ...something something.
Youtube is so much fun!
cheers.
zombiesmasher 1 year ago
The exodus was bullshit, they didn't even know the name of the pharaoh at that time, while at least they got the names of the Babylonian rulers right. The Hebrews were set free by the Persians, they even gave Cyrus the Great the title of Messiah. Which is pretty amazing for these xenophobes.
Don't assume that just because the flood and the virgin birth are myths that everything in the bible is.
donpepe90 1 year ago
That's what makes it "historical fiction" by definition. A little bit of reality sprinkled over a lot of fiction, with a healthy heapin' helpin' of name dropping just to give it more cred and drama.
Historical fact aside, the" point" of the bible, the reason it was cobbled together and created in the first place, was for the above reason, and for that reason, historical evidence is not relevant. It's a manifesto and a constitution.
zombiesmasher 1 year ago 2
I'm not hating the pregnant boobs. Just FYI.
landfillpoet 1 year ago
Sweet. Yes the attitude of the character of the god/s in the Bible are pretty revolting when compared with modern moral standards. For example, Moses ordering 40,000 of the people he led out of Egypt to be killed because they worshiped a golden calf seems a bit harsh. I bet they weren't too happy that this God led them out of slavery to be slaughtered in the desert for their religious beliefs. I guess they learned their lesson.
JayPhilosopher 1 year ago
I think the cornestone of your morality, Angie, from what I have seen so far is empathy and your own ability to reason. For example, there are no rights set down in law that prevent your kid from going to sunday school where his head can be filled with crap, but you would object to it. Keep it up.
AllHeathens1 1 year ago
O yeah, and that empathy is usually a consequence of an open mind, which is informed through literature and honest discussion. It is also capable of being updated and scrutinised in ways which a religion is not. Laws only change when we change.
AllHeathens1 1 year ago
Agreed, But 'Thank' is a strong word, since there's no one to hear our thanks, I simply appreciate that we lost that vestigial social organ called forced servitude (or did we?).
If i could thank anything, i'd thank waterborne plagues for helping my genetic precursors in developing alcohol tolerance, I'd thank the meteor that killed the dinosaurs for giving mammals its chance at inventing stone tools and diet pepsi. I thank all drivers who ever stopped at a red light, thus not killing me.
zombiesmasher 1 year ago
Dear all loving God, you stated that it is wrong to beat a slave if they die in a day or two. Can you please clarify; is it one day or two days? A "friend" of mine kind of has gotten himself in a situation and wants to know if what he did is just. If his slave only held on another day or two it would have so obviously been a just action. Stupid slaves; no wonder we are allowed to beat them.
RelaxGodfolk 1 year ago
Amazingly portrayed, great video Angie.
damaxman 1 year ago
Without slavery, there would be no pyramids; there would have been no Roman roads for later Christians to use to propagate their silly beliefs. The American economy would not have boomed after a few rich landowners declared their independence IN 1776. We, as a species, owe much to slavery, sure it's bad and immoral, but it's been pretty useful.
Morality is a very recent luxury. We owe a debt to the billions who lived lives of abject horror and suffering so that we may sit on this high horse.
zombiesmasher 1 year ago
There is no evidence that the pyramids were built by slaves. There is no evidence or reason to suppose that slavery is requisite for an economy. We have better economies now without slavery.
awatson945 1 year ago
No, we do. And there is.
And you've missed the point entirely.
Cheers.
zombiesmasher 1 year ago
Asserting something doesn't make it so. Your point about morality isn't well served with factual inacuracies. We could have had the high horse without slavery. In fact, it is arguable, that we could have had it much sooner.
awatson945 1 year ago
Look it doesn't matter, this is youtube, where everybody is right and everybody has the data to back up what they're saying assuming they're not too lazy to dig it up. Which I am. You want to learn about Pyramids and the growth of the agricultural pre-industrial American economy, go the library, look up some primary documents, guaranteed to be more convincing than anything i type in 300 characters here.
You want to think we're inherently noble, more power to you. I too once wished it were so.
zombiesmasher 1 year ago
I never said that we're inherently noble. That's a straw man and a red herring. Patronizing me isn't an argument and accusing me of ignorance is simply an ad hominem.
If you are too lazy to support your claims then perhaps you sholdn't make them.
awatson945 1 year ago
No... wait... I read that book too, it's called "Every thing I leared, I leared from watching You Tube". Ad hominems? straw men...? I swear I LOLed. No really, That is just adorable.
You've got real potential.
zombiesmasher 1 year ago
So, no evidence, just empty claims, fallacy and silly rhetoric.
awatson945 1 year ago
BTW: Isn't this the same game the theists play? When they get called on their claims they engage in logical fallacy. When they get called on that they shift to rhetorical games.
awatson945 1 year ago