@wattacoolguy Telling a scale by the notes is incredibly hard anyway, what sounds like a phrygian could just be Ionian starting on the third. The clue is in the chords. :3
@bonzzo15 Maybe you need to listen to some of Buckethead's work. For example, the song "I love my Parents" is not funny noises, it's an acoustic instrumental that's very nice. Or maybe his heavier stuff, like the song "The Redeem Team" or "Asylum of Glass". I'll tell you what, he's the king of funny noises, but he's got 35 albums out, and a majority of them are really fantastic albums with all sorts of styles. Give him a chance as a musician, don't just look at his videos and assume.
@Bassbait Don't take me for one of those simpleminded fucktards who watches one video and assumes he this is what all his sounds look like, and powerkor prolly meant that THIS is making a mockery since he is just tapping shitloads of notes fast, making nothing but noise (controlled noise, but none the less just noise). I've heard so much BH throughout my days in my band, the guitarist is completly "buckethead is my god" so i've had my fair share, but i think his playingstyle is strile and boring
@Bassbait PLUS the amount of albums doesn't make him BETTER, just that he shits out (in my taste) boring music like he has diarhea, i can appriciate him as one of the more TECHNICALLY skilled players of course. but i don't like his music. PS. I've heard easily over 30 of his songs and like 10 of those over and over and over and over again DS.
@bonzzo15 Guess what, I've heard about as many albums as you've heard songs and I can vouch for him. Why do you have to disrespect him so much? He's far better at writing music and playing music than you'll ever hope to be, and yet you're judging him like some sort of authority on music. Instead, learn to either try to understand why people DO like him, or excuse yourself from the conversation. I'm not going onto your favorite guitarist's videos to vomit crap all over them.
@Bassbait Guess what, i dont care how many fucking albums you've heard, i went to this video interested in seeing what this was, turned out to be crap to my ears, someone said this is mockery to shred (which i also think it is) so i commented, you simpleminded asshole, AND read... READ YOU FUCKER, i said i CAN appriciate him as a skilled artist, but not any good music.... and you are doing the same you are telling me NOT to, you are forcing me to shut up just because you disagree..
@bonzzo15 Wow, as if I really care anything about your interests. All I care about is Buckethead, if you can appreciate him as a skilled artist you have to appreciate him as a musician. Artist = writing ability. You're appreciating him as a skilled guitarist, not artist. You have no respect for his music ability and you're ALSO not appreciating his skill by calling him a mockery to shred. Clearly you haven't heard much of his music if you have such disrespect for him.
@Bassbait I give up this conversation, you are as dumb as the rest of YouTube, just because i don't like him i am disrespecting him? Yeah right.. Have fun with your obsession with an autistic-acting freak with bad music..
PS. i wont answer, this conversation is long as it is.
@bonzzo15 So you think that you're respectful of him by calling him an autistic acting freak with bad music? I respect you, that's why I think you're a worthless human being who wastes resources and should commit suicide. See? I can be respectful too!
(4) Finally, atonal music merely means music which is not tonal, that is, which doesn't follow the conventional rules of harmony learned in school; music which is not "in a key". Even Debussy wrote atonal music. Buckethead's music here is definitely atonal; it's just not 12-tone or serial.
(3) Music which uses all 12 chromatic pitches equally is called 12-tone music. 12-tone music does not have to be serial -- the 12 tones can be used more freely. But the most common 12-tone music is 12-tone serialism.
(2) Later composers varied the series in such extreme ways that it's often difficult to figure out what the actual series in a given piece is. Also, there can be any number of pitches (or whatever) in the series, not just 12.
@kinginsomnia, serialism refers to having a series (usually a series of pitches, but possibly series of durations, of dynamics, or anything else) in a particular order, which are the "material" of the piece. In the simplest case, the pitches (or whatever) must be used straight through in order, before repeating. Even in the earliest days of serialism, composers found ways to vary that strictness.
maybe he just wanted to rub his fingers on the wall just to rub his fingers on the wall... there doesn't have to be a point. But his tapping technique is pretty insane.
CAN ANYONE PLEASE TELL ME WHERE I COULD BUY AN ORANGE NO.1 STRETCH STRAP LIKE IN THE VIDEO? OR A WHITE ONE? I CAN'T SEEM TO FIND THEM ANYWHERE. Any suggestions are greatly appreciated!
The techniques he's using are obviously really impressive, but most of that's just noise! I'd put my time to learning a more melodic or rhythmic sounding technique
@JEQ1990 the beauty of it all is that he can do every technique. This is just something he did for Guitar World... He's capable of anything. Check out Electric Tears, Colma, Shadows Between the Sky, etc. He has a great melodic technique. This is just one clip of a lesson on atonal multi finger tapping. I think it's a neat little trick, but please do no underestimate this guitar genius.
I am sorry, but speed does not make it musical. Nor does it make it enjoyable. For this technique to be relevent, I need to see it used in context, in a song. There are so many talented guitarist who focus on just speed and that's it. I know Buckethead has a very large musical catologue, and is one of the best around. I just did not find anything useful in this video.
THis guy is definitely pretty original and clever, but his finger tapping sounds robotic and reminds me of something I would hear on a video game. While quite technical and even impressive to a degree, there really is not a whole lot of heart and soul behind it. At least not to me. Pretty weird dude for sure.
@Flapswitch13 Slow it down to a really slow tempo and make sure your muting is solid with your left hand and build speed slowly to make sure you're doing it right at each speed
Atonal tapping is a split definition of two applications in guitar theory. You're tapping on. And picking up an atonal note to the root on a single string. To actually explain... Bucket head is striking a chord in a half arpeggio technique by tapping on and hammering off each of the atonal notes of the chord that is being executed in a hybridized arpeggio. That simple. And thank you so much for the mention of it's founder Shawn Lane. I applaud you for that!
Technically, although the name of it suggests it is just music without a key, atonal music is the twelve note chromatics, put in a particular order and reversed, transposed and phase-shifted to create music known as serialism. So this should not be called atonal tapping, as buckethead is purely tapping notes which do not converge in conventional keys, not creating serialism...
@kinginsomnia Because you're well-informed and not relying on bullshit and assumptions to support what you state. I was basically calling you logical.
That's not correct. Atonal music includes, but is not exclusively serialism. Randomly hitting notes on a piano with your elbows would result in atonal music, but it wouldn't be serialism.
@czgibson I am correct, because hitting keys on a pianom, no matter how spontaneously, would result in an implication of a key in some mode or another. The only way for music to be purely atonal is to use the mathematical technique of serialism, as it is the only way to assure that the music will not result in sounding like you could place standard chords underneath it in a certain key. Bucket is completely able to figure out his own way of tapping a twelve-tone run, just not here.
@kinginsomnia Actually atonal music and serialism are not the same thing. Serialism is one form of atonal music. In the present video, you are hearing atonal music.
Wow, how do you have so many upvotes. I'm sorry, but this is incorrect. You are describing SPECIFIC types of atonal music. Putting the twelve notes in a specific order and composing from this set is known as 12-tone music. Atonal music in general does not have to involve a set order of all 12 notes. Atonal simply means "not having a tonal center", or not being in a "key". Buckethead is CERTAINLY exhibiting this when he taps with 8 fingers.
@nlo13 Wow none of you commenters got anything better to do than to try to prove me wrong? :L on inspecting the notes that bucket head plays, he will be playing notes which will imply some mode or scale. I've said this before so no more music noobs trying to go against it-this is the last time i'll say it. The only way to make music purely atonal is to use the twelve tone technique as it is the only way of creating music (which uses real note frequencies) without implying any form of key.
Just pointing out an inaccuracy. What scales/modes is Buckethead implying here, then? Also, you can still make a 12-tone set auditorily tonal. If you use chromatic scale in order starting on, say, C and assign accents and 3 beats to the diatonic notes of a C major scale while only assigning one beat and softer dynamics to the "inbetween" chromatic notes, you will hear the line as C major with passing chromatics. I followed the rules of 12-tone and established a center frequency.
@nlo13 Well i have to say, this is the most constructive of the replies i've had, but two things. Firstly, if you played that, it would sound like (and be) a chromatic run which just happened to start on C. Secondly, if you think that even serialism can be tonal, then it means nothing can be atonal, therefore defeating you're previous statement that BH is playing atonal music... lol. Myabe sometimes it's just a matter of opinion/what some ears do and don't hear :)
I thought when he was waving his arm that they peed on the wall so that when he played too fast and his fingers would catch fire he could put them out
@anthonyws49 Who told you that? Besides, I dont totally believe in aspergers. They give names to everything, makes it sound like its an illness. Its just a way of being that was probably caused by other people.
@Jonbo117 Whether music is 'direct and assertive' or not has nothing to do with tonality, or lack of.
Also: I'm not hating on Buckethead's playing....I'm pointing out that your description is inaccurate and that you don't know what you are talking about.
@Jonbo117 No: what he played is called an 'ellipse'. Diminished chords and straightforward chromatic runs are very capable of suggesting tonality in itself: he just did not provide the resolution that the ear wants to hear and is anticipating. Also for your information: a 'key' is a scale. Music can be tonal without conforming to a diatonic key.
Check out Pierre Boulez's 'Piano Sonata no. 1'. That is atonal music sounds like. This is not atonal. Now you know.
@UnknownSect333 Buckethead intuitively tapping stuff on his guitar. I heard him outline diminished chords and do straight forward chromatic runs: suggesting tonality but not providing resolution.
Of course: it's not like he is aware of what he is doing from a theoretical standpoint. He is just playing patterns he has picked up and probably playing things he thinks sounds good to his hears. Nothing wrong with that: he's not attempting to cast an air of academia (unlike the poster of this video)
@AfroDeezeeYak Oh, okay. So, since he's outlining chords, he's technically playing in some type of key? I see what you mean, because in the full video, he never really says anything about it. Just kinda plays it...
@UnknownSect333 Outlining chords doesn't imply you're playing in a key. Playing in a key implies you're playing in a key; atonal music can still use chords :P
@DylanCobb I didn't say Buckethead was playing in a key. I said he was implying tonality (there is no necessity of playing within a key in order to maintain, or suggest tonality).
@AfroDeezeeYak actually it is more of a graduated arpeggio . almost a floating tonal center . i used to take lessons from shawn lane and he played stuff like this all the time and b.t.w. buckethead does know theoretically what he is playing . listen to binge and grab or welcome to buckethead land . he just prefers a relly outside sound and beauty is in the eye of the beholder . what you think sounds bad may sound incredible to someone else . wheres your video ? everyone , post vid or STFU
I never once said Buckethead's playing was 'bad' or sounded 'bad'. My contributions in the comments were all centered around the uploader's calling this 'atonal'.
As well as this: your saying "actually it is more of a graduated arpeggio" is essentially a reiteration of what I have already said, in verbatim. So thanks for repeating me.
Holy shit... about 80 % of the video is text. I don't think it was a votebot...... I think it was actually PEOPLE who disliked your video. Crappy quality btw. I would've..
Dude he has soul. That's just how he plays. He doesn't show emotion cuz that's his style. Something doesn't always have to sound like hendrix to have emotion
@hungerstriker27 On the contrary, he is one of the best at conveying emotion when he wants. The point of the atonal tapping is to create an intricate and chaotic sound, like an exploding robot. Listen to final wars or stretching lighthouse. Both very emotional pieces. If you take the time to really explore buckethead's extremely vast discography, there's a goldmine there
ok... first I admit that the guy is a genious. But as a guitar player that dies for the blues.... in the blues is all there.... BB for example, when he plays he is lefting his soul in evey note. And I am 28, I am not 70
@hungerstriker27 Oh, I couldn't really comprehend what you were saying... But robotic stuff like this is just part of his persona. He can play anything else when he wants to.
@personman48 all of his music conveys emotion to me. I have never been so moved by one magician/musician as I am with BH and I'm over 60. I've seen the best, Beck, Hendrix, Clapton.
@saskia520 Awesome. I'm 18 now, but I was really into him when i was like 14 and 15 (I still love him, I've just not been listening to him as much) . His music definitely feeds my imagination. I love daydreaming to it.
@Kopi1112 Nobody has got more emotions than anybody, to claim such a thing is arrogance personified. As soon as you pick up and play it's laden with emotion, end of story. This petty nonsense is perpetrated by uneducated school dropouts that know nothing but rock yet very little about the musical side and hero worship whichever guitarist and blow their load trying to defend as if he was their relative or as though they knew him personally. It gets very tiring very quickly.
BH is an amazing talent for certain. Obviously he's a virtuoso plugged in, but many do not know how gifted he is unplugged as well. He plays with as much intensity as any guitarist ever has, and also plays with as much passion and emotion...BH is easily one of the greatest overall guitarists in history,shit, he may very well be the most talented ever
@ZOMBIELANDakaUSA I agree with you completely. There is no other artist that I can listen to for days on end and find something new that I hadn't heard before. He is just amazing and really moves me emotionally.
how does he avoid the noise of the other strings ringing out?
ragerpez 9 hours ago
not music
egbfritz 22 hours ago
@egbfritz wrong. lisen to john cage "4'33". it's also a questionable musicpiece ;)
TheRico1992 8 hours ago
I'm told I'm really good at amusical tapping.
antonio610 5 days ago
want to scratch the wall?
FranncoGodoy 6 days ago
apart from the good technique theres nothing original atonal music has been around a long time
trigmachine 1 week ago
I think most of everything Buckethead does is atonal.
wattacoolguy 1 week ago
@wattacoolguy Buckethead plays largely Augmented licks and a lot of locrian lick.
kibijit 1 week ago
@kibijit locrian is hard to tell when you play as fast as he does.
wattacoolguy 1 week ago
@wattacoolguy Telling a scale by the notes is incredibly hard anyway, what sounds like a phrygian could just be Ionian starting on the third. The clue is in the chords. :3
kibijit 6 days ago
ahahahahahaha buckedhead xD a guy with a popcorn can on his head...xD
thomas41681 2 weeks ago
@thomas41681 It's a KFC can :)
lioz51092 2 weeks ago
@lioz51092 ahahaha you´re right xD
thomas41681 2 weeks ago
@lioz51092 could be popcorn chicken!
wattacoolguy 1 week ago
thank you =)
roytek444 3 weeks ago
autismal as fuck
ot63 3 weeks ago
@ot63 Ur face is autistic
Jonbo117 2 weeks ago
He's just on another level. That is all
BubbaNintendo 3 weeks ago
すげえ
shintavochan 1 month ago
Piece o crap...
Davilasammo 1 month ago
I love this guy :D
IsaacHorneMusic 1 month ago
buckethead is the head bard in the court of sheogorath
Souske80Aizen 1 month ago 24
sounds like mario being raped by bowser
Rockyroopam 1 month ago 31
@Rockyroopam ahahahahaaha
Cldio0 2 weeks ago
he really makes a mockery of everything shred
powerkor 1 month ago
@powerkor How so? By being better than everyone else?
Bassbait 1 month ago
@Bassbait I wouldnt call that being better than anyone, maybe at making funny noices, nothing else I would personally say.
bonzzo15 3 weeks ago
@bonzzo15 Maybe you need to listen to some of Buckethead's work. For example, the song "I love my Parents" is not funny noises, it's an acoustic instrumental that's very nice. Or maybe his heavier stuff, like the song "The Redeem Team" or "Asylum of Glass". I'll tell you what, he's the king of funny noises, but he's got 35 albums out, and a majority of them are really fantastic albums with all sorts of styles. Give him a chance as a musician, don't just look at his videos and assume.
Bassbait 3 weeks ago
@Bassbait Don't take me for one of those simpleminded fucktards who watches one video and assumes he this is what all his sounds look like, and powerkor prolly meant that THIS is making a mockery since he is just tapping shitloads of notes fast, making nothing but noise (controlled noise, but none the less just noise). I've heard so much BH throughout my days in my band, the guitarist is completly "buckethead is my god" so i've had my fair share, but i think his playingstyle is strile and boring
bonzzo15 2 weeks ago
@Bassbait PLUS the amount of albums doesn't make him BETTER, just that he shits out (in my taste) boring music like he has diarhea, i can appriciate him as one of the more TECHNICALLY skilled players of course. but i don't like his music. PS. I've heard easily over 30 of his songs and like 10 of those over and over and over and over again DS.
bonzzo15 2 weeks ago
@bonzzo15 Guess what, I've heard about as many albums as you've heard songs and I can vouch for him. Why do you have to disrespect him so much? He's far better at writing music and playing music than you'll ever hope to be, and yet you're judging him like some sort of authority on music. Instead, learn to either try to understand why people DO like him, or excuse yourself from the conversation. I'm not going onto your favorite guitarist's videos to vomit crap all over them.
Bassbait 2 weeks ago
@Bassbait Guess what, i dont care how many fucking albums you've heard, i went to this video interested in seeing what this was, turned out to be crap to my ears, someone said this is mockery to shred (which i also think it is) so i commented, you simpleminded asshole, AND read... READ YOU FUCKER, i said i CAN appriciate him as a skilled artist, but not any good music.... and you are doing the same you are telling me NOT to, you are forcing me to shut up just because you disagree..
bonzzo15 2 weeks ago
@bonzzo15 Wow, as if I really care anything about your interests. All I care about is Buckethead, if you can appreciate him as a skilled artist you have to appreciate him as a musician. Artist = writing ability. You're appreciating him as a skilled guitarist, not artist. You have no respect for his music ability and you're ALSO not appreciating his skill by calling him a mockery to shred. Clearly you haven't heard much of his music if you have such disrespect for him.
Bassbait 2 weeks ago
@Bassbait I give up this conversation, you are as dumb as the rest of YouTube, just because i don't like him i am disrespecting him? Yeah right.. Have fun with your obsession with an autistic-acting freak with bad music..
PS. i wont answer, this conversation is long as it is.
bonzzo15 1 week ago
@bonzzo15 So you think that you're respectful of him by calling him an autistic acting freak with bad music? I respect you, that's why I think you're a worthless human being who wastes resources and should commit suicide. See? I can be respectful too!
Bassbait 1 week ago
Buck is part robot
douchebagcrew9 1 month ago
Love his comedy!!!!
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(4) Finally, atonal music merely means music which is not tonal, that is, which doesn't follow the conventional rules of harmony learned in school; music which is not "in a key". Even Debussy wrote atonal music. Buckethead's music here is definitely atonal; it's just not 12-tone or serial.
rfyl 2 months ago
(3) Music which uses all 12 chromatic pitches equally is called 12-tone music. 12-tone music does not have to be serial -- the 12 tones can be used more freely. But the most common 12-tone music is 12-tone serialism.
rfyl 2 months ago
(2) Later composers varied the series in such extreme ways that it's often difficult to figure out what the actual series in a given piece is. Also, there can be any number of pitches (or whatever) in the series, not just 12.
rfyl 2 months ago
@kinginsomnia, serialism refers to having a series (usually a series of pitches, but possibly series of durations, of dynamics, or anything else) in a particular order, which are the "material" of the piece. In the simplest case, the pitches (or whatever) must be used straight through in order, before repeating. Even in the earliest days of serialism, composers found ways to vary that strictness.
rfyl 2 months ago
this is shit.
sunnyjim98 2 months ago
maybe he just wanted to rub his fingers on the wall just to rub his fingers on the wall... there doesn't have to be a point. But his tapping technique is pretty insane.
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Conficker97 2 months ago
Technique doesn't equal passion.
erfer666 2 months ago
@erfer666 Apparently you haven't listened to buckethead.
FurbyParade226 2 months ago
@FurbyParade226 I listened to this, and that's why I made that comment
erfer666 2 months ago
@FurbyParade226 lmao at the odds of running into a comment recently posted by furby parade on youtube
EagleHawkSpider 2 months ago
@EagleHawkSpider What's that supposed to mean? Jippii much? lol
FurbyParade226 2 months ago
@FurbyParade226 hells yea, does that site still exist?
EagleHawkSpider 2 months ago
@EagleHawkSpider I'm there now. LOL Who is this??!!
FurbyParade226 2 months ago
Guitars are for music, dumbass
SadisticMagician54 2 months ago
Su Meng can play Paganini caprice #24 in any given time sig. Can bucketface do that?
TheJombur 2 months ago
CAN ANYONE PLEASE TELL ME WHERE I COULD BUY AN ORANGE NO.1 STRETCH STRAP LIKE IN THE VIDEO? OR A WHITE ONE? I CAN'T SEEM TO FIND THEM ANYWHERE. Any suggestions are greatly appreciated!
Clabian23 2 months ago
I remember watching this on DVD a long ass time ago.... why the hell does he touch the wall is he OCD?
MPSecare 2 months ago
@MPSecare he touches the wall to wipe any moisture off his fingers.
thomasharman14 2 months ago
The techniques he's using are obviously really impressive, but most of that's just noise! I'd put my time to learning a more melodic or rhythmic sounding technique
JEQ1990 2 months ago
@JEQ1990 the beauty of it all is that he can do every technique. This is just something he did for Guitar World... He's capable of anything. Check out Electric Tears, Colma, Shadows Between the Sky, etc. He has a great melodic technique. This is just one clip of a lesson on atonal multi finger tapping. I think it's a neat little trick, but please do no underestimate this guitar genius.
Clabian23 2 months ago
3:36 Yea I agree he's weird, but he sure kicks as on the guitar!!!
MrAppolo777 2 months ago
such a weird man, yet a genius
daniels7272 2 months ago
I am sorry, but speed does not make it musical. Nor does it make it enjoyable. For this technique to be relevent, I need to see it used in context, in a song. There are so many talented guitarist who focus on just speed and that's it. I know Buckethead has a very large musical catologue, and is one of the best around. I just did not find anything useful in this video.
0Heavy0Metal0 2 months ago
@0Heavy0Metal0 QQ
Doug44393 2 months ago
sounds like packman^^
Elite7555 2 months ago
He's just imitating his hero/pal Shawn Lane!!!
oilkills 2 months ago
Atonal is a compososition tool. If playing alot of random notes is the intention then I guess
it is atonal and for that matter anytime my 3 year old plays my guitar he must be an atonal genius!
joekiernan73 2 months ago
THis guy is definitely pretty original and clever, but his finger tapping sounds robotic and reminds me of something I would hear on a video game. While quite technical and even impressive to a degree, there really is not a whole lot of heart and soul behind it. At least not to me. Pretty weird dude for sure.
Sennanchie 2 months ago
@Sennanchie lol at "impressive to a degree"
Doug44393 2 months ago
well said!
jasonpskully 2 months ago
It's not atonal.
joekiernan73 3 months ago
@joekiernan73 Technically it is, but I dunno why you'd call it atonal because most tapping/shredding is atonal...
CorporalGoogoo 2 months ago
Ive been playing for only 5 years, do you think its possible for me to learn this?
AnotherSmellyHead 3 months ago
@AttitudeCastle alright thanks man. I'll try it :D
Flapswitch13 3 months ago
Disabling votes for "voting harrasment"? lol. Grow up, and admit ppl don't like this.
darkdrageon 3 months ago
I can do atonal tapping, but the string keeps ringing when I move to the next one. Any tips on silencing the previous strings?
Flapswitch13 3 months ago
@Flapswitch13 Slow it down to a really slow tempo and make sure your muting is solid with your left hand and build speed slowly to make sure you're doing it right at each speed
AttitudeCastle 3 months ago
If i win 1 dollar for every pixel in this vid, i had 1 dollar
Davidalejo666 3 months ago
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theartofthecovenant 3 months ago
@theartofthecovenant Are you serious? Eric Bell looks nothing, and plays nothing like Buckethead.
UnknownSect333 3 months ago
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theartofthecovenant 3 months ago
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theartofthecovenant 3 months ago
Atonal tapping is a split definition of two applications in guitar theory. You're tapping on. And picking up an atonal note to the root on a single string. To actually explain... Bucket head is striking a chord in a half arpeggio technique by tapping on and hammering off each of the atonal notes of the chord that is being executed in a hybridized arpeggio. That simple. And thank you so much for the mention of it's founder Shawn Lane. I applaud you for that!
theartofthecovenant 3 months ago
who the fuck is buckethead?
axji1234 3 months ago
@axji1234 A really, REALLY good guitarist. Also a really weird one.
VideoMask93 3 months ago
@axji1234 hes one of the best shredders int the world Paul Gilbert taught him how to play.
loki8lelouch7 3 months ago
Technically, although the name of it suggests it is just music without a key, atonal music is the twelve note chromatics, put in a particular order and reversed, transposed and phase-shifted to create music known as serialism. So this should not be called atonal tapping, as buckethead is purely tapping notes which do not converge in conventional keys, not creating serialism...
kinginsomnia 3 months ago 15
@kinginsomnia didn't know that o0
viejodelbasston 3 months ago
@kinginsomnia Schoenberg doesn't 'own' the word atonal. Just because something isn't serial doesn't mean it can't be called atonal.
StewieSwan 3 months ago
@StewieSwan Schoenberg isn't the only serialism composer anyway...
kinginsomnia 3 months ago
@kinginsomnia I merely mentioned him specifically because he was he one that came up with the twelve- tone technique
StewieSwan 3 months ago
@StewieSwan Elliot Carter immediately comes to mind...
TerraDigitalMedia 3 months ago
@kinginsomnia People like you make me glad I watch the science channel
s3ank1ng 2 months ago
@s3ank1ng why, so you can try and identify my species? :D
kinginsomnia 2 months ago
@kinginsomnia Because you're well-informed and not relying on bullshit and assumptions to support what you state. I was basically calling you logical.
s3ank1ng 2 months ago
@s3ank1ng Ahh thanks :D and trust me, the whole reason I supported my argument is because people who make stuff up annoy me :L
kinginsomnia 2 months ago
@kinginsomnia Y U BE SO SMART!? O>O
stix471 2 months ago
@kinginsomnia
That's not correct. Atonal music includes, but is not exclusively serialism. Randomly hitting notes on a piano with your elbows would result in atonal music, but it wouldn't be serialism.
czgibson 2 months ago
@czgibson I am correct, because hitting keys on a pianom, no matter how spontaneously, would result in an implication of a key in some mode or another. The only way for music to be purely atonal is to use the mathematical technique of serialism, as it is the only way to assure that the music will not result in sounding like you could place standard chords underneath it in a certain key. Bucket is completely able to figure out his own way of tapping a twelve-tone run, just not here.
kinginsomnia 2 months ago
@kinginsomnia Actually atonal music and serialism are not the same thing. Serialism is one form of atonal music. In the present video, you are hearing atonal music.
BlackmetalSM 2 months ago
@kinginsomnia
Wow, how do you have so many upvotes. I'm sorry, but this is incorrect. You are describing SPECIFIC types of atonal music. Putting the twelve notes in a specific order and composing from this set is known as 12-tone music. Atonal music in general does not have to involve a set order of all 12 notes. Atonal simply means "not having a tonal center", or not being in a "key". Buckethead is CERTAINLY exhibiting this when he taps with 8 fingers.
nlo13 2 months ago
@nlo13 Wow none of you commenters got anything better to do than to try to prove me wrong? :L on inspecting the notes that bucket head plays, he will be playing notes which will imply some mode or scale. I've said this before so no more music noobs trying to go against it-this is the last time i'll say it. The only way to make music purely atonal is to use the twelve tone technique as it is the only way of creating music (which uses real note frequencies) without implying any form of key.
kinginsomnia 2 months ago
@kinginsomnia owned
EagleHawkSpider 2 months ago
@kinginsomnia
Just pointing out an inaccuracy. What scales/modes is Buckethead implying here, then? Also, you can still make a 12-tone set auditorily tonal. If you use chromatic scale in order starting on, say, C and assign accents and 3 beats to the diatonic notes of a C major scale while only assigning one beat and softer dynamics to the "inbetween" chromatic notes, you will hear the line as C major with passing chromatics. I followed the rules of 12-tone and established a center frequency.
nlo13 2 months ago
@nlo13 Well i have to say, this is the most constructive of the replies i've had, but two things. Firstly, if you played that, it would sound like (and be) a chromatic run which just happened to start on C. Secondly, if you think that even serialism can be tonal, then it means nothing can be atonal, therefore defeating you're previous statement that BH is playing atonal music... lol. Myabe sometimes it's just a matter of opinion/what some ears do and don't hear :)
kinginsomnia 2 months ago
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kinginsomnia 2 months ago
that was fucking shit go play mario tunes freak
tortoise656 3 months ago
JabbaWockeeZ on Guitar Lol
LeeShang1211 3 months ago
he being weird is his gimick.. in real life.. he is normal as hell on earth...
antimatter07 3 months ago
I'm P shy Camera.
MrRcheek 3 months ago
@MrRcheek true story, he gave my wife bugs and he gave me a bag of rings.
MrRcheek 3 months ago
I thought when he was waving his arm that they peed on the wall so that when he played too fast and his fingers would catch fire he could put them out
MonsterBuddy10 3 months ago 18
@MonsterBuddy10 congrats, stupidest post on youtube
patrickbass20 2 months ago
@patrickbass20 Why I never!! *slaps with glove*
MonsterBuddy10 2 months ago
@MonsterBuddy10 congrats, stupidest post on youtube
patrickbass20 2 months ago
he is basically walking two scales at once with both hands...
Stevespeeze 3 months ago
So does anyone else know he suffers from aspergers? I just learned that
anthonyws49 3 months ago
@anthonyws49 Who told you that? Besides, I dont totally believe in aspergers. They give names to everything, makes it sound like its an illness. Its just a way of being that was probably caused by other people.
maneatingtoilets 3 months ago
RRRHHHHAAA! so sweet. no one can touch this genius.
jayc5413 3 months ago
define emotion.
perplexedmoth 3 months ago
@perplexedmoth its the thing Buckethead makes you feel.
beastyblaze101 3 months ago
His trying to sharpen his fingers!! dood.. that's why .!! He is using the wall as the whetstone... XD
cleyuri 3 months ago
guns n....ROBOTS?????
rager86 3 months ago
He is an amazing guitarist. on that note....how many of you would have laughed if he had fallen backwards in his chair at the end. I would have.
SuperDon1214 3 months ago
I have never seen so fuckin' fast 6 string sweeps sweeps! Can anybody tell a person who can do it faster??? I think no :D
MrRoryRhoads 3 months ago
orgasms....
yoru19 3 months ago
This actually really helped me I was wondering about this, thanks alot dude.
jaiwook63 4 months ago
I liked this until you tried to turn this into a history lesson for 10 year olds.
DieSuperHigh 4 months ago
i have nightmares about him 0_o
guitarvortex11 4 months ago
mntap !!!!
Zuraidable 4 months ago
Outlining a bunch of diminished chords and playing chromatic scales doesn't create atonality.
Randomly inserting irrelevant words doesn't add an air of academia. Sorry.
AfroDeezeeYak 4 months ago
@AfroDeezeeYak composed in a direct and assertive solo like wat we just saw, yes it fuckin is. Go sip some hatorade bit$&
Jonbo117 4 months ago
@Jonbo117 Whether music is 'direct and assertive' or not has nothing to do with tonality, or lack of.
Also: I'm not hating on Buckethead's playing....I'm pointing out that your description is inaccurate and that you don't know what you are talking about.
AfroDeezeeYak 4 months ago
@AfroDeezeeYak ur face is inaccurate. wat he played doesnt fit into a key. its fu**in atonal
Jonbo117 4 months ago
@Jonbo117 No: what he played is called an 'ellipse'. Diminished chords and straightforward chromatic runs are very capable of suggesting tonality in itself: he just did not provide the resolution that the ear wants to hear and is anticipating. Also for your information: a 'key' is a scale. Music can be tonal without conforming to a diatonic key.
Check out Pierre Boulez's 'Piano Sonata no. 1'. That is atonal music sounds like. This is not atonal. Now you know.
AfroDeezeeYak 4 months ago
@AfroDeezeeYak Then, what exactly is this?
UnknownSect333 4 months ago
@UnknownSect333 Buckethead intuitively tapping stuff on his guitar. I heard him outline diminished chords and do straight forward chromatic runs: suggesting tonality but not providing resolution.
Of course: it's not like he is aware of what he is doing from a theoretical standpoint. He is just playing patterns he has picked up and probably playing things he thinks sounds good to his hears. Nothing wrong with that: he's not attempting to cast an air of academia (unlike the poster of this video)
AfroDeezeeYak 4 months ago
@AfroDeezeeYak Oh, okay. So, since he's outlining chords, he's technically playing in some type of key? I see what you mean, because in the full video, he never really says anything about it. Just kinda plays it...
UnknownSect333 4 months ago
@UnknownSect333 Outlining chords doesn't imply you're playing in a key. Playing in a key implies you're playing in a key; atonal music can still use chords :P
DylanCobb 4 months ago
@DylanCobb I didn't say Buckethead was playing in a key. I said he was implying tonality (there is no necessity of playing within a key in order to maintain, or suggest tonality).
AfroDeezeeYak 4 months ago
@AfroDeezeeYak I wasn't replying to you, I was replying to UnknownSect333. Also, what he's playing could be atonal entirely dependant on context.
DylanCobb 4 months ago
@DylanCobb Although I guess he usually uses those runs to play outside.
DylanCobb 4 months ago
@AfroDeezeeYak I believe some call it "key of the moment"
franktib 4 months ago
@AfroDeezeeYak actually it is more of a graduated arpeggio . almost a floating tonal center . i used to take lessons from shawn lane and he played stuff like this all the time and b.t.w. buckethead does know theoretically what he is playing . listen to binge and grab or welcome to buckethead land . he just prefers a relly outside sound and beauty is in the eye of the beholder . what you think sounds bad may sound incredible to someone else . wheres your video ? everyone , post vid or STFU
shredboy5000 3 months ago
@shredboy5000 Dear shred 'boy' (how apt):
I never once said Buckethead's playing was 'bad' or sounded 'bad'. My contributions in the comments were all centered around the uploader's calling this 'atonal'.
As well as this: your saying "actually it is more of a graduated arpeggio" is essentially a reiteration of what I have already said, in verbatim. So thanks for repeating me.
AfroDeezeeYak 3 months ago
Holy shit... about 80 % of the video is text. I don't think it was a votebot...... I think it was actually PEOPLE who disliked your video. Crappy quality btw. I would've..
hydralisk3313 4 months ago
Put all that text in the description next time.
TyHovind 4 months ago
yo, umm, do u write tabs at all? if so, can u write me out a simple one?
-thxs
ShatteredInside7 4 months ago
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HermerTV 4 months ago
@HermerTV look up sail on soothsayer then tell me hes a stupid fucker, you arrogant bastard.
1withguitar 4 months ago
@1withguitar He doesn't even need to listen to that, just to the beginning of this: watch?v=sGjotVAKZHo&list=FLpOyKHQGEfXn51TGo_l81fg&index=2
UnknownSect333 4 months ago
Dude he has soul. That's just how he plays. He doesn't show emotion cuz that's his style. Something doesn't always have to sound like hendrix to have emotion
stone314687 4 months ago
Dude he's perfectly normal, hes only acting crazy cuz he likes messing with people. Sorry he's not one of your boring brainwashed by society friends
stone314687 4 months ago
what's that "bottom" he plays near the bridge???
fafaffu2 4 months ago
0:50 am I the only one that hears Mario Bros. music from the NES?
italiandude719 4 months ago
bullshit... obviously he has incredible skills, but his music doesnt create any emotion
hungerstriker27 4 months ago
@hungerstriker27 On the contrary, he is one of the best at conveying emotion when he wants. The point of the atonal tapping is to create an intricate and chaotic sound, like an exploding robot. Listen to final wars or stretching lighthouse. Both very emotional pieces. If you take the time to really explore buckethead's extremely vast discography, there's a goldmine there
personman48 4 months ago
@personman48
ok... first I admit that the guy is a genious. But as a guitar player that dies for the blues.... in the blues is all there.... BB for example, when he plays he is lefting his soul in evey note. And I am 28, I am not 70
hungerstriker27 4 months ago
@hungerstriker27 Are you saying he can't play blues? Cus he can...
UnknownSect333 4 months ago
@UnknownSect333
no, i´m not saying that... obviously he can play blus.... but his thing is this and for me.... in my opinion, this doesnt tell me nothing
hungerstriker27 4 months ago
@hungerstriker27 Oh, I couldn't really comprehend what you were saying... But robotic stuff like this is just part of his persona. He can play anything else when he wants to.
UnknownSect333 4 months ago
@personman48 all of his music conveys emotion to me. I have never been so moved by one magician/musician as I am with BH and I'm over 60. I've seen the best, Beck, Hendrix, Clapton.
saskia520 4 months ago 29
@saskia520 Awesome. I'm 18 now, but I was really into him when i was like 14 and 15 (I still love him, I've just not been listening to him as much) . His music definitely feeds my imagination. I love daydreaming to it.
personman48 4 months ago
@saskia520 I can't belive what you say :O BH got more emotions in his guitarplay then hendrix or clapton. I really can't agree with that!
Kopi1112 3 months ago
@Kopi1112 I can agree 100%
MartyFriedmanRulez66 3 months ago
@Kopi1112 Nobody has got more emotions than anybody, to claim such a thing is arrogance personified. As soon as you pick up and play it's laden with emotion, end of story. This petty nonsense is perpetrated by uneducated school dropouts that know nothing but rock yet very little about the musical side and hero worship whichever guitarist and blow their load trying to defend as if he was their relative or as though they knew him personally. It gets very tiring very quickly.
Blitzbok 3 months ago
@saskia520
You need to get out more.
Easleytee 3 months ago 2
Check-out Ben Monder.
Easleytee 3 months ago
@saskia520
says you're 31.
GrizCC 3 months ago
@GrizCC it won't let me change it I am 61 born 1950.
saskia520 3 months ago
@saskia520
BH is an amazing talent for certain. Obviously he's a virtuoso plugged in, but many do not know how gifted he is unplugged as well. He plays with as much intensity as any guitarist ever has, and also plays with as much passion and emotion...BH is easily one of the greatest overall guitarists in history,shit, he may very well be the most talented ever
ZOMBIELANDakaUSA 3 months ago
@ZOMBIELANDakaUSA I agree with you completely. There is no other artist that I can listen to for days on end and find something new that I hadn't heard before. He is just amazing and really moves me emotionally.
saskia520 3 months ago