we cannot take anything from judaism since they killed so many prophet like john , zachariah were murdered by the pharisee the persian convert jew..it was a coup the etat of isaac family--pharisee mixed up pagan belief in judaism and also paul bring mixed up myth and truth about religion
stated in quran,jesus is perfected man by the full maximum knowledge he received from Allah,but still he is human not devine,just full of miracle,,he manage to escape crucifixion,and judas was casted by jesus to be the crucified bcoz of his betrayal,,so Allah save jesus -le miracle of grande escape--but pharisee defamed jesus as claiming jesus said he is son of god,and yet wat jesus want to abolish is just evil talmud,kabalah but jew pharisee hate that
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ls. Islam has nothing to do with Greece. Ottomans were an occupation force and used their henchmen, the Albanians (their vast majority Muslims). Greeks fought and repelled the occupation force - after 32 rebellions and 4major revolutions (i.e.1 rebellion every 10 years throughout the 400 years of of occupation).
Islam has NO position in Greece since no Greek is a muslim. Islam is a religion brought by foreigners who wish to genocide Greeks.
and you call yourself educated. all ottoman sultans had greek orthodox mothers. the 3rd ottoman sultan orhan was the son in law of the byzantine emperor. all muslims in balck sea and at least 50% of aegean sea anatolia still speak greek at home and are muslims. as for greece, pls visit kotza sq every bayram and see the thousands of ppl praying there
@nurlhaq The muslims in greece are turkish,albanian or middle eastern/north african immigrants, not ethnic greeks. 98 per cent of the greek population are greek orthodox. If you are an ethnic greek you are either christian or athiest,no in between.
look at your economy. you are sowing today in 2011 the seeds you sowed in 1827. you were crushed in 1821 by ibrahim pasa. only navarino crusade in 1827 helped you. now, the navarino gang want to throw you out of the eurozone.
Yes in general Balkan TRADITIONAL clothing falls into the Middle eastern category. The patterns, the designs and the styles. You find extremely similar ones throughout the Middle East and Far East, not in the rest of Europe.
Two thousand and nine years have passed and all you can show for it is a God who is a Greek, a Roman, an Anglo-Saxon etc. and a heaven with Greek, American, Roman what have you flags in it. YOUR Lord and master supposedly told you A LITTLE yeast levens the bread. Christendom claims 3 billion or so members of the 7 or so humans the Earth contains. You do the math and compare the yeast with the other components. Yet you are rotten....rotten to the core. Social ills tear the BEST of you....
Is this the same Christendom that killed most of the Turkish muslims in Ottoman Greece and the Balkans. THe same one that ordered all mosques destroyed. Same one that always starts a war with the Turks, then looses and claims atrocity...
Ask yourself sth...who invited Islam in those Christian lands (anatolia and the balkans)? We all know the answer to this question...No One invited islam here...so ...when your house gets violated by a man....don't you want to drive him out?Besides my friend...the history u are being taught in ur Kemalo Fascist schools is quite different from the actual history.
But i am not really interested in this debate anymore.God will provide the answer...and it will be painful for all...and especially for the ones who have distorted His name and the unrepentant. It has started...
YES ALLAH's will is what happened, happens and what WILL happen. THere is wisdom behind things that sometimes we do not understand. As for the debate.......this clip was not meant for debate but for education as well as personal motives. But when you dish a comment, be ready to be served likewise.
The same who first "invited" Christianity, that is who. No. You ALL DO NOT know this answer. You hold on to the answer that just best suits YOU "ALL". You are from Samsun in today's Turkey. You probably came to Greece or your family came to new Greece and squatted in a home or land that was once a Muslim familiy's. There are TWO SIDES to a coin buddy. You just have showed one and we here show the OTHER side YOU WISH to eradicate and totally deny. It is as simple as that..
The house my family got in after they were forced to leave Turkey to escape a true genocide of 2 million Christians (Assyrians, Armenians and Pontians) that the whole world acknowledges was built by themselves. And sth else...u seem to be educated...so you should have known the basic differences between the way Christianity was spread and Islam. We embraced Islam...nobody forced us to convert by any political, economic or other means. And sth else...a question...
Do u happen to know those Muslims that you say we moved into their homes....How did they get those houses in the first place....since they were Turks.....and I guess they came from another place...Did we offer them our houses or did they invade and steal them??Any ideas??
YES as a matter of fact I do! I am a Tsam. My ancestral homes was taken over by squatters in 1920's. Then they even took our lands in 1945's. Nea Selefkia of Igoumenitsa prime example.
How they got the houses......they built them. They were MOSTLY the natives of those homes that converted to Islam....Just like millions of your brethren Pontians who chose Islam (Turkopontioi). No one stole your houses. Do not be silly. If we wanted to, we had the power to throw ALL of Agion Oros into the sea! But you know why we didn't??? Because our religion forbade this type of oppression. That is why. Because we allow freedom of belief without coersion. What have YOU done?
Yes do not forget the massacres the Pontian and Armenians started against the Muslims when they sided with the Russians. Many more Muslims died at their hands than the numbers you quoted. (all this before the atrocities you mention). Be fair and tell all sides to the story. Why Muslims did not genocide you 700 years before and did it in 1900 as you (as according to you)??
What u say shows how little history u know and how much propaganda u choose to believe...The Armenians attacked mainly the Ottoman army...while the Pontians...very few hundreds of them...revolted and fled to to the mountains...to accuse especially the pontians of a genocide is a disgraceful and dishonorable act from ur part that puts on the same scale sporadic incidents of violence and a genocide committed by the Ottomans u so much adore against innocent predominantly women and children...
Exactly the response I expected.........What makes you think I will adhere to YOUR SELECTIVE approach to history?? Were YOU personally alive during that time to count the "very few hundred" only that revolted and come out with such assurety as to the accuracy of your story/tale version, whatever??? Answer me like I asked you before, WHY the Muslims did not kill all you off 700 years earlier?? Why at the turn of the last century did tension boil over???
My friend...u have no power over us...only God has...please do not go around boasting about your barbarism...I know u admire this quality (the violent spread of Islam) and u enjoy it very much since this is in ur mind the proof that validates ur religion but as u imposed it on us...it is written u will suffer it too...in the tenfold
Regarding my knowledge...I can tell u that i have studied those issues close to professors who produced academic works, through thorough research and have been heavily criticised for that...since u should know the rest of the academic and pontian community in Greece is not familiar and even hostile to this aspect of our history...the rebel struggle against the Turks. What, u think i am like u?Talking about everything while knowing so few..?I also know more than u think i do about Islam...
who invaded whos land first? greeks didnt come to asia and invade the turks land......the turks came from asia and invaded our land.....you were barbarians before you came in contact with greek culture....anadolu comes from the greek word anatolia.......we built all of your cities, contantinople, izmir, iznik, edirne, ankara........you have done nothing in anatolia, the only thing turks have contributed to the world is war, destruction and baklava.
Greeks came from North Africa and Asia. They invaded Anatolia, Cyprus, Rhodes and Ionia. They built just like the Ottomans did but they stole all the resources. They used slave labor(ancient Anatolians) to build. Anadolu, does not come from anatolia. What does anatolia mean in greek? Turks have not invaded Greece, because it did not exist(citystates under Byzantines), but Greeks invaded Turkey and started the war. You are not reading history correctly. Turks fought empires, not nations.
hahaha please tell me, where you found that greeks came form north africa or asia? I am light skin and blue eyes and brown hair, does that sound like asian or north african? greeks have been in greece forever, why dont you do research before you spout your bullshit......anatolia is ancient greek word that means land of the sunrise....the sun rises in the east and anatolia is east of Greece. you idiot...
the word anadolu is greek you fucking idiot...why dont u just look it up before you say stupid things? greeks built contantinople, izmir, ankara, iznik and edirne.....greeks had theses cities when the turks were still in asia....and turks fought nations when they got their asses kicked in the greek revolution and the first balkan war when all of the balkan countries kicked the shit out of you.......THE OTTOMANS DID NOT BUILD ANYTHING EXCEPT FILTHY MOSQUES!
By the way, Constantine was not Greek. He was a Turkic Bulgar. Every rational person knows this. But Fascist Greeks do not. There is greek buildings in Turkiye because Turks show respect to ancient cultures. Unlike the Greeks that burned every element of Turkish existence in Greece. You use the word FILTHY very well, because it describes you.
Constantine who? the first constantine? the last constantine? all the constantines in the middle? if you are talking about the last emperor of the byzantine empire, he was half greek and half serbian. Constantine was born in Mistra. as the eighth of ten children of Manuel II Palaiologos and Helena Dragaš, the daughter of the Serbian prince Constantine Dragaš of Kumanovo.
Let me guess...u learnt that Constantine was a Bulgar in an american school too...right??haha..man u are unbelievable...the first Constantine...the Great..he was from today's Croatia.The Bulgars came down in (eastern) Balkans centuries later.And sth else why should not we demolish sth that was not built with our permission by invaders who massacred and oppressed our people?why should we respect barbarism when we suffered from it? Did we ask u to build mosques?Why do u complain about that?
before you start saying dumb shit...why dont you look it up online, where the word anadolu comes from? it comes from the the greek words ANATOLIA!!! if you dont believe me just look it up! all of your cities in western anatolia were built by greeks.....it was greeks who made constantinople the richest city in the world not the turks....the nation state of Greece did not exist under byzantine rule, but greeks have always lived in what is today known as Greece.....
where do Greeks come from? THey came from Africa/Asia in 800BC. They are not from Anatolia or Ionia. As for Turks, yes, all Turks came from Asia because they settled there after the last Ice Age. As the ice receded, my Turkic ancestors settled in Catalhoyuk in Konya. Where there are artifacts that only belong to Turkic culture. Yes it is 12,000 years old. I am very Turkish. Your Greek educators tell u we are foreign invaders from Mongolia to incite your to go to war.But Greeks are not European.
you are such a fucking idiot!!! you cant show me one proof of evidence from any credible sources that say greeks are from africa.....greeks have always been in greece...and actually, I was educated in america, where they also teach that turks are from asia and greeks have been in greece forever! turks have not been in anatolia for 12,000 years...i dont care what anybody tells you..... you are not turkish.
I think if you were to get a dna test, you would find that you are not Greek and perhaps Cuman or Albanian. When you do, then we'll see who is the idiot. as for sources, there are sooo many. just search greek dna
you know what, i cant argue with a person who refuses to look at archeological evidence or historical evidence....if you want to be blind to your own origin thats not my business.....but as far as turks being in anatolia for 12,000 years, this is simply not possible....turks are not from anatolia orginally.
nobody is from Anatolia originally. It was under water and ice was form with plate movements. Mankind came from the same place originally. A land mass stretching africa to asia. Anatolia is a melting pot and crossroads. But Turks(hittites/trojans/sumerians/huns/phonecians) settled in this area a long time ago. New waves(seljuks/etc.) are recent Turkic migrations. This is where it is difficult for people to understand difference between ancients and Muslim Turks. both are the same.
We have not done a dna test as u say...it is true...Have u on the other hand taken an IQ test? Just a suggestion...or even a psychiatric evaluation...
OK...now go to sleep....ur brain is about to catch fire...too much thinking...ur country will need people with ur IQ in the future ...u are an asset for the turkish republic...and the world...God ...Turks are really so clever and they know so much about everything...hahaha
actually this is a very simple thought. The results are very clear. You should search Croatian roots. You will be suprised that they are similar to Avar and Thracians. Who are the Avars and Thracians? that is for your iq to research...
Brother that was before the Croats-Slavs came down to the Balkans....please...before u talk just think for a moment...in Croatia at that time there were indigenous people like the Illyrians together with Roman populations
It's a good video all in all...I mean quite romantic...but anyone familiar with Christian eschatologic literature knows that very soon videos like that will be made for Turkey and other parts of our world occupied and polluted by the stench of islam...we as Christians just hope that our Muslim brothers repent first...as we also need to do...for different reasons..
Yes YOU Christians do need to repent. Repent for making a man into"God", for tribalising God and for worshipping the created instead of The Creator. You took your priests and your monks as gods beside The Ultimate Sustainer of The Universe. They have written books and changed them to their whims and you have given your pledge to them blindly throwing in the trash bin your upright human nature. You preach the turning of the cheek, yet you are the ones doing the striking......
For two thousand and nine years you have not been able to even address racism....it sores stronger than ever. You have not been able to break class systems. Inquisitions, genocides of whole peoples, rape of lands, nationalism......all snakes from your nests. Please my friend spare us the irony and the hypocrisy. I pray that Allah remove the stain from your hearts and you can see man like he is.....a Creature from His Creator.....a human being! Go repent and ask your Creator to forgive you.
we cannot take anything from judaism since they killed so many prophet like john , zachariah were murdered by the pharisee the persian convert jew..it was a coup the etat of isaac family--pharisee mixed up pagan belief in judaism and also paul bring mixed up myth and truth about religion
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stated in quran,jesus is perfected man by the full maximum knowledge he received from Allah,but still he is human not devine,just full of miracle,,he manage to escape crucifixion,and judas was casted by jesus to be the crucified bcoz of his betrayal,,so Allah save jesus -le miracle of grande escape--but pharisee defamed jesus as claiming jesus said he is son of god,and yet wat jesus want to abolish is just evil talmud,kabalah but jew pharisee hate that
aidil389 1 week ago
BS! Muhammad was a violent Evil now dead Murderer! Islam/Quran is corrupt! Jesus/Peace/Healed/Blessed/Salvation/God! All Muslims who became Christians are free of abuse & misery! Islam leaders are killing you! Christians Love You! Please accept Jesus Christ as your Savior! John 3:16 He that believeth on the Son hath everlasting life: and he that believeth not the Son shall not see life; but the wrath of God abideth on him! Rebel & accept Jesus Christ! Be free of Islam lies! Visit cbn.com /radio
tigersforchrist 2 months ago
Islam - one of the worst and evil things to come to Greece.
RomiosHellas 2 months ago
@RomiosHellas You will never know. :)
NurIslam44J1 2 months ago
Shut up Mongo
ls. Islam has nothing to do with Greece. Ottomans were an occupation force and used their henchmen, the Albanians (their vast majority Muslims). Greeks fought and repelled the occupation force - after 32 rebellions and 4major revolutions (i.e.1 rebellion every 10 years throughout the 400 years of of occupation).
Islam has NO position in Greece since no Greek is a muslim. Islam is a religion brought by foreigners who wish to genocide Greeks.
notgodsemigod 11 months ago 3
@notgodsemigod
ti les re malaka kai gw mwamethanws eimai
kai menw lamia
spirta1000 7 months ago
@notgodsemigod
and you call yourself educated. all ottoman sultans had greek orthodox mothers. the 3rd ottoman sultan orhan was the son in law of the byzantine emperor. all muslims in balck sea and at least 50% of aegean sea anatolia still speak greek at home and are muslims. as for greece, pls visit kotza sq every bayram and see the thousands of ppl praying there
nurlhaq 3 months ago
@nurlhaq The muslims in greece are turkish,albanian or middle eastern/north african immigrants, not ethnic greeks. 98 per cent of the greek population are greek orthodox. If you are an ethnic greek you are either christian or athiest,no in between.
brazilianbutterfly61 3 months ago
Islam is disease.
Muslim ideas are cancer to humanity.
byJessCh 11 months ago
@byJessCh
you can say that to the angel of death on your deathbed. ameen.
nurlhaq 3 months ago
@nurlhaq the moment i'm dying i won't give a fuck about islam. btw it's amen not ameen.
byJessCh 3 months ago
should bury them in the Koran and kick ass from the Koran evropy.im not needed, they need a reason to destroy the ... both in their stinking home.
MrJonboyow 11 months ago
@MrJonboyow
too bad. God protects the quran. but not you when you become sick and dying.
nurlhaq 3 months ago
ahuabkbar kai ahouar shukran kai fuck you malakes, you were kicked out in 1821, you will be kicked out again.
wtfhellas 1 year ago
@wtfhellas
keep dreamin!
spirta1000 7 months ago
@wtfhellas
look at your economy. you are sowing today in 2011 the seeds you sowed in 1827. you were crushed in 1821 by ibrahim pasa. only navarino crusade in 1827 helped you. now, the navarino gang want to throw you out of the eurozone.
nurlhaq 3 months ago
@nurlhaq each state had/has or will have a crisis. Thats normal.
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DEATH TO ALL MONGOLS ALBANIANS AND TURKS!
koubarian 1 year ago
Ya Allah
Ya Muhammad
Ya Ali
marifirufai 1 year ago
This place reminds me of my hometown :]
Hazimin15 1 year ago
1:46
isn't he George Gordon Byron, 6th Baron Byron???
Strange choice to show him here!
Maybe as you know he took part in the Greek struggle against your beloved Ottoman caliphate!!! :)))
petrichanin 3 years ago 6
I show him because he is wearing Middle Eastern clothing.
alipashaofjanina2 3 years ago
no...this isn't Middle Eastern clothing -this is traditional Balkan clothing...and to be more precise -Albanian...
petrichanin 3 years ago
Yes in general Balkan TRADITIONAL clothing falls into the Middle eastern category. The patterns, the designs and the styles. You find extremely similar ones throughout the Middle East and Far East, not in the rest of Europe.
alipashaofjanina2 3 years ago
@petrichanin Yes, but he just couldn't resist the beauty of Ottoman clothing
alipashaofjanina2 1 year ago
Two thousand and nine years have passed and all you can show for it is a God who is a Greek, a Roman, an Anglo-Saxon etc. and a heaven with Greek, American, Roman what have you flags in it. YOUR Lord and master supposedly told you A LITTLE yeast levens the bread. Christendom claims 3 billion or so members of the 7 or so humans the Earth contains. You do the math and compare the yeast with the other components. Yet you are rotten....rotten to the core. Social ills tear the BEST of you....
alipashaofjanina2 3 years ago
Is this the same Christendom that killed most of the Turkish muslims in Ottoman Greece and the Balkans. THe same one that ordered all mosques destroyed. Same one that always starts a war with the Turks, then looses and claims atrocity...
ataturk2k 3 years ago
Ask yourself sth...who invited Islam in those Christian lands (anatolia and the balkans)? We all know the answer to this question...No One invited islam here...so ...when your house gets violated by a man....don't you want to drive him out?Besides my friend...the history u are being taught in ur Kemalo Fascist schools is quite different from the actual history.
samsunlis 3 years ago
But i am not really interested in this debate anymore.God will provide the answer...and it will be painful for all...and especially for the ones who have distorted His name and the unrepentant. It has started...
samsunlis 3 years ago
YES ALLAH's will is what happened, happens and what WILL happen. THere is wisdom behind things that sometimes we do not understand. As for the debate.......this clip was not meant for debate but for education as well as personal motives. But when you dish a comment, be ready to be served likewise.
alipashaofjanina2 3 years ago
The same who first "invited" Christianity, that is who. No. You ALL DO NOT know this answer. You hold on to the answer that just best suits YOU "ALL". You are from Samsun in today's Turkey. You probably came to Greece or your family came to new Greece and squatted in a home or land that was once a Muslim familiy's. There are TWO SIDES to a coin buddy. You just have showed one and we here show the OTHER side YOU WISH to eradicate and totally deny. It is as simple as that..
alipashaofjanina2 3 years ago
The house my family got in after they were forced to leave Turkey to escape a true genocide of 2 million Christians (Assyrians, Armenians and Pontians) that the whole world acknowledges was built by themselves. And sth else...u seem to be educated...so you should have known the basic differences between the way Christianity was spread and Islam. We embraced Islam...nobody forced us to convert by any political, economic or other means. And sth else...a question...
samsunlis 3 years ago
Do u happen to know those Muslims that you say we moved into their homes....How did they get those houses in the first place....since they were Turks.....and I guess they came from another place...Did we offer them our houses or did they invade and steal them??Any ideas??
samsunlis 3 years ago
YES as a matter of fact I do! I am a Tsam. My ancestral homes was taken over by squatters in 1920's. Then they even took our lands in 1945's. Nea Selefkia of Igoumenitsa prime example.
alipashaofjanina2 3 years ago
How they got the houses......they built them. They were MOSTLY the natives of those homes that converted to Islam....Just like millions of your brethren Pontians who chose Islam (Turkopontioi). No one stole your houses. Do not be silly. If we wanted to, we had the power to throw ALL of Agion Oros into the sea! But you know why we didn't??? Because our religion forbade this type of oppression. That is why. Because we allow freedom of belief without coersion. What have YOU done?
alipashaofjanina2 3 years ago
I meant to say Christianity...:)
samsunlis 3 years ago
Yes do not forget the massacres the Pontian and Armenians started against the Muslims when they sided with the Russians. Many more Muslims died at their hands than the numbers you quoted. (all this before the atrocities you mention). Be fair and tell all sides to the story. Why Muslims did not genocide you 700 years before and did it in 1900 as you (as according to you)??
alipashaofjanina2 3 years ago
What u say shows how little history u know and how much propaganda u choose to believe...The Armenians attacked mainly the Ottoman army...while the Pontians...very few hundreds of them...revolted and fled to to the mountains...to accuse especially the pontians of a genocide is a disgraceful and dishonorable act from ur part that puts on the same scale sporadic incidents of violence and a genocide committed by the Ottomans u so much adore against innocent predominantly women and children...
samsunlis 3 years ago
Exactly the response I expected.........What makes you think I will adhere to YOUR SELECTIVE approach to history?? Were YOU personally alive during that time to count the "very few hundred" only that revolted and come out with such assurety as to the accuracy of your story/tale version, whatever??? Answer me like I asked you before, WHY the Muslims did not kill all you off 700 years earlier?? Why at the turn of the last century did tension boil over???
alipashaofjanina2 3 years ago
My friend...u have no power over us...only God has...please do not go around boasting about your barbarism...I know u admire this quality (the violent spread of Islam) and u enjoy it very much since this is in ur mind the proof that validates ur religion but as u imposed it on us...it is written u will suffer it too...in the tenfold
samsunlis 2 years ago
Regarding my knowledge...I can tell u that i have studied those issues close to professors who produced academic works, through thorough research and have been heavily criticised for that...since u should know the rest of the academic and pontian community in Greece is not familiar and even hostile to this aspect of our history...the rebel struggle against the Turks. What, u think i am like u?Talking about everything while knowing so few..?I also know more than u think i do about Islam...
samsunlis 2 years ago
Well i guess if you consider the US school system Kemalo Fascist, then you must better yourself somehow.
ataturk2k 3 years ago
who invaded whos land first? greeks didnt come to asia and invade the turks land......the turks came from asia and invaded our land.....you were barbarians before you came in contact with greek culture....anadolu comes from the greek word anatolia.......we built all of your cities, contantinople, izmir, iznik, edirne, ankara........you have done nothing in anatolia, the only thing turks have contributed to the world is war, destruction and baklava.
nickpafras 3 years ago
Greeks came from North Africa and Asia. They invaded Anatolia, Cyprus, Rhodes and Ionia. They built just like the Ottomans did but they stole all the resources. They used slave labor(ancient Anatolians) to build. Anadolu, does not come from anatolia. What does anatolia mean in greek? Turks have not invaded Greece, because it did not exist(citystates under Byzantines), but Greeks invaded Turkey and started the war. You are not reading history correctly. Turks fought empires, not nations.
ataturk2k 3 years ago
hahaha please tell me, where you found that greeks came form north africa or asia? I am light skin and blue eyes and brown hair, does that sound like asian or north african? greeks have been in greece forever, why dont you do research before you spout your bullshit......anatolia is ancient greek word that means land of the sunrise....the sun rises in the east and anatolia is east of Greece. you idiot...
nickpafras 3 years ago
the word anadolu is greek you fucking idiot...why dont u just look it up before you say stupid things? greeks built contantinople, izmir, ankara, iznik and edirne.....greeks had theses cities when the turks were still in asia....and turks fought nations when they got their asses kicked in the greek revolution and the first balkan war when all of the balkan countries kicked the shit out of you.......THE OTTOMANS DID NOT BUILD ANYTHING EXCEPT FILTHY MOSQUES!
nickpafras 3 years ago
By the way, Constantine was not Greek. He was a Turkic Bulgar. Every rational person knows this. But Fascist Greeks do not. There is greek buildings in Turkiye because Turks show respect to ancient cultures. Unlike the Greeks that burned every element of Turkish existence in Greece. You use the word FILTHY very well, because it describes you.
ataturk2k 3 years ago
Constantine who? the first constantine? the last constantine? all the constantines in the middle? if you are talking about the last emperor of the byzantine empire, he was half greek and half serbian. Constantine was born in Mistra. as the eighth of ten children of Manuel II Palaiologos and Helena Dragaš, the daughter of the Serbian prince Constantine Dragaš of Kumanovo.
nickpafras 3 years ago
Let me guess...u learnt that Constantine was a Bulgar in an american school too...right??haha..man u are unbelievable...the first Constantine...the Great..he was from today's Croatia.The Bulgars came down in (eastern) Balkans centuries later.And sth else why should not we demolish sth that was not built with our permission by invaders who massacred and oppressed our people?why should we respect barbarism when we suffered from it? Did we ask u to build mosques?Why do u complain about that?
samsunlis 2 years ago
before you start saying dumb shit...why dont you look it up online, where the word anadolu comes from? it comes from the the greek words ANATOLIA!!! if you dont believe me just look it up! all of your cities in western anatolia were built by greeks.....it was greeks who made constantinople the richest city in the world not the turks....the nation state of Greece did not exist under byzantine rule, but greeks have always lived in what is today known as Greece.....
nickpafras 3 years ago
GO BACK TO MONGOLIA ATADOG!!!
nickpafras 3 years ago
Shit breath, my dna was tested to be on Anatolian soil for 12,000 years by National Geographic. You go back to Africa where Gypts(Greeks) came from.
ataturk2k 3 years ago
if ur dna has been in anatolia for 12,000 years then you are not turkish.......turks have not been in anatolia that long. turks come from asia.....
nickpafras 3 years ago
where do Greeks come from? THey came from Africa/Asia in 800BC. They are not from Anatolia or Ionia. As for Turks, yes, all Turks came from Asia because they settled there after the last Ice Age. As the ice receded, my Turkic ancestors settled in Catalhoyuk in Konya. Where there are artifacts that only belong to Turkic culture. Yes it is 12,000 years old. I am very Turkish. Your Greek educators tell u we are foreign invaders from Mongolia to incite your to go to war.But Greeks are not European.
ataturk2k 3 years ago
you are such a fucking idiot!!! you cant show me one proof of evidence from any credible sources that say greeks are from africa.....greeks have always been in greece...and actually, I was educated in america, where they also teach that turks are from asia and greeks have been in greece forever! turks have not been in anatolia for 12,000 years...i dont care what anybody tells you..... you are not turkish.
nickpafras 3 years ago
I think if you were to get a dna test, you would find that you are not Greek and perhaps Cuman or Albanian. When you do, then we'll see who is the idiot. as for sources, there are sooo many. just search greek dna
ataturk2k 3 years ago
you know what, i cant argue with a person who refuses to look at archeological evidence or historical evidence....if you want to be blind to your own origin thats not my business.....but as far as turks being in anatolia for 12,000 years, this is simply not possible....turks are not from anatolia orginally.
nickpafras 3 years ago
nobody is from Anatolia originally. It was under water and ice was form with plate movements. Mankind came from the same place originally. A land mass stretching africa to asia. Anatolia is a melting pot and crossroads. But Turks(hittites/trojans/sumerians/huns/phonecians) settled in this area a long time ago. New waves(seljuks/etc.) are recent Turkic migrations. This is where it is difficult for people to understand difference between ancients and Muslim Turks. both are the same.
ataturk2k 3 years ago
We have not done a dna test as u say...it is true...Have u on the other hand taken an IQ test? Just a suggestion...or even a psychiatric evaluation...
samsunlis 2 years ago
OK...now go to sleep....ur brain is about to catch fire...too much thinking...ur country will need people with ur IQ in the future ...u are an asset for the turkish republic...and the world...God ...Turks are really so clever and they know so much about everything...hahaha
samsunlis 2 years ago
actually this is a very simple thought. The results are very clear. You should search Croatian roots. You will be suprised that they are similar to Avar and Thracians. Who are the Avars and Thracians? that is for your iq to research...
ataturk2k 2 years ago
Brother that was before the Croats-Slavs came down to the Balkans....please...before u talk just think for a moment...in Croatia at that time there were indigenous people like the Illyrians together with Roman populations
samsunlis 2 years ago
yes but also the Etruscans, who were related to the Thracians/Trojans and are thought to be Turkic. take care
ataturk2k 2 years ago
It's a good video all in all...I mean quite romantic...but anyone familiar with Christian eschatologic literature knows that very soon videos like that will be made for Turkey and other parts of our world occupied and polluted by the stench of islam...we as Christians just hope that our Muslim brothers repent first...as we also need to do...for different reasons..
samsunlis 3 years ago
Yes YOU Christians do need to repent. Repent for making a man into"God", for tribalising God and for worshipping the created instead of The Creator. You took your priests and your monks as gods beside The Ultimate Sustainer of The Universe. They have written books and changed them to their whims and you have given your pledge to them blindly throwing in the trash bin your upright human nature. You preach the turning of the cheek, yet you are the ones doing the striking......
alipashaofjanina2 3 years ago
For two thousand and nine years you have not been able to even address racism....it sores stronger than ever. You have not been able to break class systems. Inquisitions, genocides of whole peoples, rape of lands, nationalism......all snakes from your nests. Please my friend spare us the irony and the hypocrisy. I pray that Allah remove the stain from your hearts and you can see man like he is.....a Creature from His Creator.....a human being! Go repent and ask your Creator to forgive you.
alipashaofjanina2 3 years ago