Danger Ahead -- NYC carriage driver being reckless

[mulelover93]

Okay, I know this driver and rode with him, he is a very experienced driver and his horse is extremely well trained. He trains his horses prior to ever letting people on his carriages so even if he took his hands off and put them up in the air the horse would not spoke or run away. He also always had a hand on the reins, and as a fellow driver I know that you can feel the horse through the reins. If you are going to accuse somebody of something you should have all of your facts straight. 

[KnightNotice]

that horse probably has a daily routeen and does the same thing ever day so it knows exactly what to do... so calm down

[MacabreMikolaj]

*snorts* If the horse was going to get spooked by ANY of that shit, he wouldn't be a NYC carriage horse. That's a pretty lame excuse to try to trash somebody's horse is doing a perfect job, just as he should.

[swiftnshift]

oh yeah real dangerous lol

[ke4cpc]

The driver has his hands on the lines, he is feeling his horse through the lines while he is carrying on a convo with his riders. If the horse were to spook, upset or even alert to another horse, the driver will be able to feel it. This is just one of many ways a horse and a driver are connected. Horses aren't mindless automobiles that go careening off when you let go of the wheel. Horses are mindful of their routine and need little or no guidance past that.

[ambulancegrrrl]

I have been driving carriages in busy traffic for around 17yrs and I'm not saying I have never turned around to speak with my passengers but not like that. And if anyone has ever had a runaway they wouldn't think this was ok. Any horse can spook and any horse can run. Believe it.

[mark44134]

Say ney! This is a team of man an horse, they have been doing this route in their sleep, learn the facts before you open your mouth. That's how trouble starts when someone don't know what there talking about!

[eponalover8844]

i agree with darci99 i have a horse who isn't spooked at all. Shes a total "steady eddy." are you sure its not you who doesn't know anything about horses.

[SarahVstheClown]

You'd hate to see me on a trail ride. Half the time, My reins are laying on my horses neck and I'm sitting in the saddle side ways...because I know and trust the horse that I do it with. Would I do it with one that I didn't trust? No. Likewise with this guy.

[Berlynblue72]

Although the driver should be paying attention, because anything can happen, this is not "reckless.' I have driven commercially for over 20 years and although you cannot act this way with most horses, some horse you can. I had a Belgian mare that I could do that with. I used to joke that I was just up there to keep her from pushing people out of her way.

[skellion6969]

You obviously know nothing of horses, just an FYI, horses do have brains and can walk on a street without going sideways, not to mention i guarantee that horse has been doing the same route for years.

[ChissyMay]

Hmm, Actually at the 4 second interval the driver check his horse and the path they are on, and again at the 9 second mark. He might even be doing this in between those two checks, but you cant see his face. He's paying attention, and the horse obviously has no concern. A good driver can sense and feel when his horse and unsure and when his horse is feeling calm, and he drives accordingly.

[Samii7500]

there actually is such thing as a horse that does not spook. they are VERY rare, but they do exist. there is one i used to ride at the barn i keep my horse at, she is a very old quarter horse mare and NOTHING scares her, she has seen it all.

[vivienleigh1097]

I wish these people would stop, Were never going to ban horse and carriages. its NEVER GONNA HAPPEN.

[rmp0335]

Okay, I've watched this video several times and the only thing I can say about the whole situation is that that carriage driver has a great body. I'm going to look for him the next time I'm in Central Park.

[lexxwolfen]

Horses who do this know the route just as well as the driver, so the horse knows where to go, where to turn, where to stop and wait.

[rajvader]

Old Dobbin' knows his job. The driver is a mere formality. ;)

[FernandoTorrera]

I would be more concerned with the size of the horse compared to the carriage. I can see he is working and really leaning his weight to pull the carriage. That carriage should be pulled by a large draft horse. the driver not paying attention is minor detail. I only support carriage rides for drafters because they have such a hard time finding homes so carriage rides save them from slaughter! Along with pulling logs, and doing farm work.

[rewasder2]

Just goes towards the argument that animal rights activists think of animals as brainless and incapable of having any life other than what activists consider 'natural', which is often far from the reality of what a natural life was in the past.

The road to hell is paved with good intentions.

[RadioReporter01]

@rewasder2

Now here's a real effin moron statement.....

[murphy60083]

Actually, what I see is a nicely working carriage horse doing its job. We make our money by entertaining, and a good partner does the driving while I do the talking. Nothing reckless here. Did you see an accident?

[RadioReporter01]

@murphy60083

So if the cops stop you for a traffic violation such as not watching the road at all times as per NY State VTL, does your partner get the summons?

Or are the cops paid to ignore this as one hinted to me?

[murphy60083]

@RadioReporter01

Yeah, we carriage drivers make SO much money, we can have the entire city government on our payroll.  God your such a moron. Seriously? You really think we PAY the cops to ignore us? Try this instead: they feel like douchebags having a HORSE DRAWN CARRIAGE pulled over. It looks pretty bad to the public when the police are targeting a HORSE instead of a drug dealer, murderer, etc.

[RadioReporter01]

@murphy60083

The drivers do all right but the owners seem to be making most of that $15 million all in cash the city won't even speak about.

Go ahead, call NYC and Co and ask about that $15 million all cash figure testified to at City Hall.

See if they answer you

[StopLiesSeeTruth]

The tard below is referring to a taxi that hit a parked carriage.

The carriage driver was the only one hurt.

This waste of space is a good exapmle of the sort of cretin who screams abuse etc, yet knows nothing

It's thanls to looneys like him that we are still in business.

Their insane rantings have desroyed their credability with the powers that be in NYC.

Thanks looneys, you make lobbying easy !!

Keep it up.

avella for mayor !

ha ha ha

I'm off to work, the tard below is on welfare !

[RadioReporter01]

If you want to see who the real "tard" is (that's so insulting and low class, but typical of the carriage horse trade) check the movie "Blinders."

The guy calling people "tard", known as Mr Frank Rodden, is seen at 38 minutes into "Blinders" pulling on his mask to commit a felony assault.

Problem is, the camera has already seen his face, so who is a "tard" you may ask your self?

My guess is you would say: "Mr Frank Rodden"

Off to work making the horses stumble around, all cash money!!!

[StopLiesSeeTruth]

You're getting nowhere, where you belong.

My name is the only truthful thing you ever post.

Watch this poster on my vids, just search "animal rights moron"

[RadioReporter01]

If I search Animal Rights Moron, I get a Mr Frank Rodden soiling his panties as the noose tightens.

Nice girly voice, I never get tired of you sounding like a scared little girl as you do in that vid!

It's funny to watch you as you get more and more desperate as you realize I wasn't kidding!

Jail and the poorhouse await you.

I guess that's a lesson you needed to learn, some fights aren't worth having and don't pick fights with those that buy ink by the barrel!

Nice girly voice tough guy!

[RadioReporter01]

@StopLiesSeeTruth

Had yet another carriage horse incident. So many I can't keep track. Google it

[murphy60083]

@RadioReporter01

And I looked up the accident. It was a hit and run in which a car rear ended a carriage. There were no serious injuries. Incidentally, there were 9,762 auto accidents on the same day all over the country. Hmmmm, I'm not a math major in college but 1 seems to be LESS than that, right?

[RadioReporter01]

@murphy60083

Still an accident.

Perhaps because there were no lights, turn signals, mirrors or any safety equipment on such a large view blocking , slow moving vehicle did such an accident happen.

And you compare a local carriage accident with national ones involving cars without checking to see how many carriages were involved.

Faulty statistics. Hope you don't handle money

[murphy60083]

@RadioReporter01

The big orange triangle on the back of the carriage and tail lights (in the dark) should tip off most attentive drivers. And I have never heard of a multi carriage pile up before. You lack any form of rationality because you base your thought processes on a preconceived notion that horse drawn carriages are wrong. It is pointless to argue with you, but I find it stimulating tweaking your closed mindedness anyway. Fuck off anyway.

[RadioReporter01]

@murphy60083

Tail lights?

You telling me all carriages have tail lights? They don't.

You didn't address mirrors, turn signals or any other safety equipment.

So I think you are the one who needs to fuck off. Nice insult, best you can do?

[StopLiesSeeTruth]

@murphy60083

Hes a MORON. Even if you quoted the mind boggling SAFETY record we hold he would still try and argue. 68 carriages, 2 shifts per day, 4 trips to and from the park, 365 days a year...do the math against the amount of accidents...which btw are usually not our fault. This guys an IMBECiLE. And we have LIGHTS, and a huge slow moving vehicle caution sign in back any half blind person could see. You cant argue with stupid.

[spam1237]

???Reckless??

[StopLiesSeeTruth]

What a crock !!!

There is no danger or recklessness here !!

PETARDS are evil and know NOTHING !!

They make up lies and spead misinformation to make what they believe seem true.

Only one problem with that....

They have NO PROOF. And people are not stupid !!

Go to my channel and see my beautiful carriage horses

I've been in business for over 22 years, NEVER HAD AN ACCIDENT !!

Check the stats for yourself, horse drawn carriages are the SAFEST 4 wheeeled vehicles in NYC !!

FACT !!

[RadioReporter01]

Latest carriage horse/ taxi crash in NYC on Sept 19, 2009:

watch?v=c_l_9MD29vs

[Saromatae]

When I was a boy I remember my great grandfather still had a horse and carriage on his farm. He only used it to get supplies from town. Once a week he would go to town for supplies for the farm. Once he was done collecting he would say to the horse "Home Mike" He wouldn't even pick up the reigns. The horse would slowly trod home. My Great granddad would fall asleep while telling me about some story of the past. I never worried that the horse would not go home. Horses are more than engines.

[RadioReporter01]

I'm picturing your granddad falling asleep in the 9th Avenue traffic. Thanks for the laugh. Totally stupid.

Have you seen what happens? Check it here:

Latest carriage horse/ taxi crash in NYC on Sept 19, 2009:

watch?v=c_l_9MD29vs

[animalwrongs]

YES you are ghouls , seeing tragedy in everthing, go to StopLiesSeeTruth channel and relieve your stressed out evil minds

[RadioReporter01]

A pussy? I'm the guy out there on the hack line almost coming to blows with these drivers and you say I'm a pussy for blocking the keyboard warriors.

No, it's a matter of convenience. They do it to me, so why should I let them use my vid as a battle ground?

Just to stupid to bother with.

As far as hoping for an accident, I'm not hoping, I'm waiting. I know there will be one.

[NJRae]

Sorry, I see nothing wrong with this. The horse looks very calm and has probably been pulling a carriage in that park for years. It is not going to run someone over, and it has probably "been there and done that" and there is probably little, if anyting, left in the park that it hasn't seen. I'm sure the driver knows the horse and his/her temperment. And yes, I know horses. I've been riding all my life and work with horses every day. Just breathe. I'm sure the guy knows what he's doing.

[RadioReporter01]

You don't see anything wrong with it?

Except it's illegal.

What you're sure of and what is reality seems to be far apart

[NJRae]

I don't know what the law is...I'm sure you're right and it is illegal...but so are lots of things that we do every day while driving our cars.  I say again...I'm sure he knows the horse and is comfortable doing what he's doing.

[RadioReporter01]

Just because it's done in cars doesn't make it right.

Check my page. I have a vid of a driver blowing a light while reading a newspaper, in front of the cops who do nothing.

And while the horse is comfortable, they do get spooked and that's why the rules say they need to watch the road.

I spent 20 years taking pictures of the biggest disasters that stared out as the smallest mistake

I've come to learn there's a reason for the rules and while the chances are slim, someone always gets caught

[PitytheHorses]

You, too, prove that you are not in any position to be commenting. "Been there and done that" is of no consequence to a horse. I feel sorry for your horse and the people around you.

[animalwrongs]

STOPLIESSEETRUTH

go to this channel to see the lies the freaks below tell.

[RadioReporter01]

Go to that channel and see a load of horseshit by a guy making money on horses struggling thru the traffic in crowded NYC.

[animalwrongs]

when these activists see abuse why don't they get one of the many police around the park and make a report?

The ara"s are full of dung!

Animal Rights is an excuse for loons to get together and harass people.

Lying trouble makers, who then cry foul when someone gives them hassle in return.

Sad, sick attention seekers.

Stop making up lies, if you see abuse call a cop. Stop the hype!

A**holes

[lmarieaa]

You should really stop spamming videos with your nonsense. Its rather annoying. Your a acting like a threatened little child.

[RadioReporter01]

STOP LIES GET MENTAL HELP

GHOULS?

[PitytheHorses]

Not exactly keeping to the rules of the road, is he? Very dangerous.

[darci99]

OK, First off, this driver probably knows his horse better than you do...

Secondly, this is not "reckless". You have shown 13 seconds of a video of a horse going through a PARK. This horse is probably a "steady eddy" and not a spooky horse, otherwise the driver wouldn't feel comfortable doing that.

[DriversRunninScared]

You obviously know nothing about horses! they spook! And a crowded park is a bad place to do this! No horse is a "steady eddy." What the driver "feels comfortable with" is not my concern. Endangerment of the public safety is, and the politicians must be concerned with that.

[lmarieaa]

Perfectly stated! Thank You!

[animalwrongs]

Oh, brooooother.

[RadioReporter01]

"Oh, brooooother."

What an obnoxious ass you are.

[blackerthanblackdog]

Horses spook even when you are turned the right way and paying attention, so you may as well relax . A half decent rider or driver is always aware (even when he apears relaxed to ignorant onlookers ) and can be on the case in milli-seconds if anything happens. Besides, what idiot would be stupid enough to get in the way ?

[PitytheHorses]

Sorry, you prove that you don't know much about horses. A spooked horse is uncontrollable by even the most experienced rider or driver.

[herewefly]

@DriversRunninScared tHE HORSE is used to the hustle and bustel. This horse is calm, should the driver have been paying attion? Yes. But he trusts his horse, so I wouldn't call it reckless

[kikingfriesian]

@DriversRunninScared 13 seconds of filming mean nothing, there is no real evidence, and there is nothing wrong on turning back and talking to someone. did an accident even ocurr? remember these horses are used to their enviornment, they can almost be called "bomb proof" otherwise they woul'd not be working there, because they woul'd represent a danger to the public. I've worked with horses my whole life, and that doesn't mean I don't know them, I simply use common sense which i hope you have too

[BLiSSFULxFiLLY]

@DriversRunninScared

There are horses that wouldn't spook at a nuclear blast. This horse has probably been doing it for most of it's life. I am positive they would not have a horse here if it would spook at something so trivial in a park.

They do this day in and day (no matter how much I don't, and others, don't like it) and they see this all the time. I would probably feel more safe on this horse then any other horse that I could get simply because he is so use to this stuff.

[cammarkgross]

@DriversRunninScared Your a retard. You must have had a bad experiance with a horse. This driver knows his horse a lot better then you do, and this horse is obviosly used to it's saroundings

[Seldenta]

@DriversRunninScared

Wow buddy. I worked with carriage horses for a short period, and all three of them pulled the carriages around a town and didn't spook about people walking by, cars, bikes, ect. Infact they were easy going. What I see is a horse doing a great job and the driver has his hand on the lines as well.

[SaraSindari]

@DriversRunninScared gonna have to agree with darci99 on this one. a horse that isn't "bombproof" isn't gonna make it in the carriage business. There are "steady eddys", I own one. Hasn't done a THING in 13 years and I'd do the same with him (if he were even built to pull a carriage) as the driver because I know him inside and out and we trust each other. On the other hand, I wouldn't be bothering my passengers either.

[critterrescue1]

@SaraSindari -- Sometimes passengers ask lots of questions. Would you ignore them if they did?

[mulelover93]

If you are concerned with the publics safety you should attack the dangerousness of walking across crosswalks.Have you ever tried walking across a sidewalk b/c they are more dangerous then a carriage horse.If you knew anything about horses you would know that these horse are extremely well trained and sacked out before they come to the city,so the likely hood of them spooking is pretty much null.

[Lollitsa]

@darci99 Totally agree, plus the horse wears blinkers, his vision field is limited so he can't see everything. If a horse is to spook, he will spook anyway, an accident can happen on any possible day and people who ride horses know this.

[burdela]

@darci99 13 seconds is more than enough to spook a horse and create a horrible accident. If the horse would bolt for some reason, he wouldn't be on time to turn around, grab it back and on the same time, stear it away from other people.

No matter how easy a horse looks, they are still prey and should not be underestimated! My horse doesn't get spoked of anything, he doesn't care of VERY loud noises BUT if something falls of the tree and hits his butt, he'll get spoked, thinking he's in danger!