Anyone who can't understand why Hinualt attacked on this stage and still maintains that he did everything in his power to win the Tour himself and betray Lemond doesnt understand cycling. As he said in Cyclesport in 1993 'if i wanted to be nasty i could easily have said 'i have a 5 minute lead on GC,ok Greg Lemond, you are working for me now'. His attacking in the Alps destroyed Zimmerman and gifted Lemond a huge GC lead. As for Grewal, Hinault probably thought little of the comments, if at all
Funny Story is that after Hinault was passed by Lemond's group and was fading back through the field.. He came back to Alexi Grewal and in fine Alexi fashion says to Hinault " You F*cked up Bernie"
When I was a kid I used to get so psyched up to all socalrider's vids. I'm 32 now and I'm bookmarking/saving them all like crazy. I gotta train harder; cycling really is nobility without the cash.
amazing that this was the only coverage available to me as a kid. such an oversimplification of the tactics, as if Hinault, Hampsten, and Lemond were all attacking each other. Now, it is true that the Badger was probably not completely on board with helping Lemond as he had promised, but this day was a well-documented team tactic meant to string out the peloton and launch Lemond. and it worked.
You're right; although I think that at times Hinault wasn't sure whether he was actually helping Lemond (as he said) or helping himself. In the end, whatever his intention, he was able to have his cake and eat it too -- he wore out the competition so that Lemond could lay down the final blow; he made Lemond prove that he really was the best that year; and he allowed himself to bow out like the tenacious champion he was. I wish we had more riders like him these days.
It was well documented after this stage (and later confirmed by Hinault) that a pair of TV helicopters were positioned to use their updraft to sweep him up the slope.
You can even see all the papers flying around. Only a Frenchman could engineer such a feat.
Actually, the Italians allegedly engineered just such a feat in the 1984 Giro, getting a TV helicopter to hover behind Francesco Moser in the final time trial so that he would make up time on (and win the race from) Laurent Fignon. No country has a monopoly on shennanigans.
Hinault was nuts -- attacking halfway through a mountain stage, even though he had nothing to gain and everything to lose. That's not how they race any more, which I sort of regret.
Just read Killing the Badger and the behind the scenes discussion was incredible.
The video only scratches the surface.
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jamestargetedindiv 7 months ago
Thats the way u do it make people think you working for Lemond then take the win for yourself
badass1270 8 months ago
Anyone who can't understand why Hinualt attacked on this stage and still maintains that he did everything in his power to win the Tour himself and betray Lemond doesnt understand cycling. As he said in Cyclesport in 1993 'if i wanted to be nasty i could easily have said 'i have a 5 minute lead on GC,ok Greg Lemond, you are working for me now'. His attacking in the Alps destroyed Zimmerman and gifted Lemond a huge GC lead. As for Grewal, Hinault probably thought little of the comments, if at all
EMC2Scotia 2 years ago
I don't understand why Hinault attacked in yellow jersey on peyresourde with more of 5 minutes on Lemond............why ???
however, thank's to socalrider ^___^
lucasitaly1980 2 years ago
That was an epic stage. Hinault was an arrogant fool for attacking the way he did. What a numbnut.
jmplays44 2 years ago
Funny Story is that after Hinault was passed by Lemond's group and was fading back through the field.. He came back to Alexi Grewal and in fine Alexi fashion says to Hinault " You F*cked up Bernie"
socalrider909 2 years ago
I wonder if Hinault said anything back when he caught and passed Grewal in the final km!
Matteomjb 2 years ago
@socalrider909 Yep. Just read that in a recent book. Just imagine Bernie's face!!!!
mrlebowski33 5 months ago
Weird seeing the riders without helmets
caseyonline 2 years ago
The colombians are great climbers
MagodeOz2006 2 years ago
does anyone know what are the 3 songs that plays in this video ?
i am sure is john tesh , but i dont know the name .
PACOESRE 3 years ago
"The cars behind indicate the approach of the Badger" -- I love this sport.
sjl62 3 years ago
When I was a kid I used to get so psyched up to all socalrider's vids. I'm 32 now and I'm bookmarking/saving them all like crazy. I gotta train harder; cycling really is nobility without the cash.
Cheers mate.
lebowski1000 3 years ago 2
socalrider...right you are! Amazing how their voices sound similar now that I listen again. That's Tesh'ie for sure. I stand corrected.
EilertPilarmDM 4 years ago
That was Al Trautwad at the beginning. 21 years later and he still knows squat about cycling it seems
EilertPilarmDM 4 years ago
Wrong, John Tesh had commenting duties in 1986..
socalrider909 4 years ago
great Video, Thanks!
mxlean 4 years ago
Was Phil Liggett not commentating by this time. This commentator sounds terrible!
1962mcomet 4 years ago
It is John Tesh and Phil Liggett..
socalrider909 4 years ago
I like the commentating.
grindwalker 3 years ago
Is this a real song??? I need this. I need to ride with this music.
blickblocks 5 years ago
cycling always sounds better with '80s music.
sjl62 5 years ago
It's John Tesh
whitworths 4 years ago
amazing that this was the only coverage available to me as a kid. such an oversimplification of the tactics, as if Hinault, Hampsten, and Lemond were all attacking each other. Now, it is true that the Badger was probably not completely on board with helping Lemond as he had promised, but this day was a well-documented team tactic meant to string out the peloton and launch Lemond. and it worked.
hayking00 5 years ago
You're right; although I think that at times Hinault wasn't sure whether he was actually helping Lemond (as he said) or helping himself. In the end, whatever his intention, he was able to have his cake and eat it too -- he wore out the competition so that Lemond could lay down the final blow; he made Lemond prove that he really was the best that year; and he allowed himself to bow out like the tenacious champion he was. I wish we had more riders like him these days.
sjl62 5 years ago
Also, when "Herrera falters," it is actually a flat tire that forced him to be dropped.
weides 5 years ago
It was well documented after this stage (and later confirmed by Hinault) that a pair of TV helicopters were positioned to use their updraft to sweep him up the slope.
You can even see all the papers flying around. Only a Frenchman could engineer such a feat.
weides 5 years ago
Hinault can certainly tell a joke
WELLBRAN 5 years ago
Actually, the Italians allegedly engineered just such a feat in the 1984 Giro, getting a TV helicopter to hover behind Francesco Moser in the final time trial so that he would make up time on (and win the race from) Laurent Fignon. No country has a monopoly on shennanigans.
sjl62 5 years ago
Hinault was nuts -- attacking halfway through a mountain stage, even though he had nothing to gain and everything to lose. That's not how they race any more, which I sort of regret.
sjl62 5 years ago