@benjio77 So, you are saying that all Christians and religious people are not critical thinkers! What a fallacy! So telling your kids that religion is stupid and having them pour liquor is NOT brainwashing? When a christian tell their kids about God it's brainwashing, but when an atheist tell their kids that God doesn't exist, it o.k? Do you see something wrong with that?
@chrismac1980 Critical thinking means to be skeptical and to require observable, repeatable, testable evidence before accepting a claim as fact.There may be a god but the burden of proof has not been met. Telling someone that something exists without being able to show evidence is dishonest, teaching someone that they should require evidence before believing something is not the same at all. This is what Hitchens et al try to do. Just a small point, it's juice not liquor!
@benjio77 Many of Christians are skeptical (have you ever heard of a christian turning atheist?) You make it seem like Christians don't think about what they believe? So, "brainwashing" kids is wrong? Is this a fact? Can you show me the scientific evidence for this fact! Until you provide scientific evidence for your "fact" I will not accept your claims! How I'm suppose to know it was juice when there is a liquor bottle standing right next to the kid?
@chrismac1980 Please could you stop misrepresenting me and putting words in my mouth. I have not mentioned Christianity in any of my posts, I have just talked about the definition of critical thinking.
I don't have any scientific evidence that ''brainwashing kids is wrong'' (your quote) but I never made that claim anyway, so I don't know who you're argueing with.
Read my first post again. Do you agree or not that teaching critical thinking is the opposite of indoctrination?
@benjio77 O.k.. So, if someone believes something that has no evidence for it, these people are not thinking critically? Is this what you are trying to say? Do you believe in right and wrong? Is there evidence for it? The answer is NO. So if you say "god doesn't exist" are you right! Since we can't "test" what is right and wrong, you not thinking critically!
@chrismac1980 Hate to intrude on ya folks, looks like you are getting along fine... but ummmmmm.... really? Right and wrong are CONCEPTS.... God is a SUPERNATURAL BEING..... You basically are making the statement that concepts are the same as supernatural beings..... so justice isn't real because I don't believe in the existence of unicorns? Okay.... wow..... that is REAL insightful. I will now leave you to argue amongst yourselves. ~Godzilla Hugs~
@johncwilson Over to you John, chrismac seems to have got critical thinking, indoctrination, evidence, religion, god, right and wrong all mixed up into one big pile of confusion and can't seem to distinguish between any of them. I don't think he's a troll, though.
@benjio77 I don't think he is a troll either... seems more like somebody who gets their arguments/ideas from the likes of venomfangx, ian juby, and nephilimfree..... chrismac has so many logical fallacies in just the comments I've seen here I don't think there would be any reason for you to continue to argue... just a waste of energy and time. My daughters love Sam Harris btw. :) ~Godzilla Hugs~
@johncwilson I recently had a poke at NephilimFree. I asked him polite questions about human chromosome 2, and it took me exactly two questions and 36 hours to be called ignorant and get blocked. If you get bored and you're up for a laugh, have a go and try to beat my record! ''Those filthy lying evolutionists......''
@johncwilson Without God, why are these "concepts" so important? If they were only "concepts" why do you feel good when you do right and bad when you do wrong. Did you know most murderers turn themselves in due to their conscious! On your worldview, what is your standard for right and wrong? There are no good reasons to believe in unicorns! You atheist's make it seem like the unicorn statement is the knockout blow, but it's garbage!
@chrismac1980 lol! Another gem! You have got to be the most BRILLIANT mind I have ever encountered! I will be sharing this comment with everyone I can! Thank you! Thank you so much for putting me in my place and showing all of us where you stand and how "intelligent" you are! Thank you!! :) (that whole "unicorn statement" thing you did there... LMFAO! I needed that! ow my sides hurt....) I will not respond again, as you have obviously bested me good sir. Thanks for the laugh! ~Godzilla Hugs~
@johncwilson So what is your standard? If I'm wrong and your right, what standard are using to determine this? Answer the question! I just love how you atheist's claim that Christians are so stupid, but never answer the questions! I never claimed to put anyone in their place! I'm just asking you to answer the question. It's that simple! Lose the pride and learned some humility!
@chrismac1980 In a study done of 300 killers only 2.3% turned themselves in... that's 7 out of 300! So the statement "most murderers turn themselves in due to their conscious!" is made up, you just pulled it out of your ass. (Your source?) BTW, I worked at the Nebraska State Penitentiary as a correctional officer for over 5 years, I am the wrong person to try and use these kind of made up statistics on. If you lie to prove your point, you have already lost the argument. We are done. Gooodbye.
@johncwilson Like I told the other guy, if Christians are so dumb and atheist's are so "smart" why continue to respond to our post!!! Lol.. Fine only 2.3% turn themselves due their conscious, that begs the question? On your atheist world view, were does the conscious come from? Why do you have it? And what is the standard for right and wrong.. You are done because you can't answer the dumb christian questions? BYEEEEE
Gulp. Gulp. Gulp. Just drank the real thing. Over and over. n noow I''m haveing troble typiiing....ssdssnffnnr fr fffjfjffjjjjyyyyyyyhhnhnhggnmm,//??lllllllp009uytdghhVoteKiarafffhfhrnnhnhnu... Seriously, Video awesome!
I love watching kiara videos they always make me smile no matter how dark the hour... but in honesty i would like to hear more about what she thinks of atheism, hitchens etc.
forever in our hearts and bookshelves will he persist, as well as live. Don't be dismayed, as he spoke all the words now we need to buy them, share them, and live by our interpretation of them. He was..against his own credence or wish a hero to me. You will be missed as long as secular freethinkers are allowed to breath. Love you C.H. <3
Wow -- I'm glad you said what that was in the glass. I was thinkin' that baby holds Black Label a lot better than I do . . .
Yes, I think he would have been tickled by this.
manthasagittarius1 1 week ago
god is logic is god
logiclaw 4 weeks ago
That's not Kiara that's Drew Barrymore :-)
benjio77 1 month ago
That was cool :) Thanks for posting.
bary1234 1 month ago
I believe that would have amused Hitchens greatly.
FattyMcFox 1 month ago
Too much... The cute... Its tooooooo much.
FatRakoon 1 month ago
Great video. I think Hitch would have been proud.
kelliko70 2 months ago
And you say that Christians brainwash their kids! ..LOL
chrismac1980 2 months ago
@chrismac1980 Most do. Some atheists do as well. But skepticism kind of doesn't fit with brainwashing, ya know?
shrikechan 2 months ago
@shrikechan So, it o.k for an atheist to it, but when it comes to a christian it's not.. I just love the contradictions from you guys! ya know?
chrismac1980 2 months ago
@chrismac1980 Teaching someone to think critically is the exact opposite of brainwashing and indoctrination.
benjio77 1 month ago 4
@benjio77 So, you are saying that all Christians and religious people are not critical thinkers! What a fallacy! So telling your kids that religion is stupid and having them pour liquor is NOT brainwashing? When a christian tell their kids about God it's brainwashing, but when an atheist tell their kids that God doesn't exist, it o.k? Do you see something wrong with that?
chrismac1980 1 month ago
@chrismac1980 Critical thinking means to be skeptical and to require observable, repeatable, testable evidence before accepting a claim as fact.There may be a god but the burden of proof has not been met. Telling someone that something exists without being able to show evidence is dishonest, teaching someone that they should require evidence before believing something is not the same at all. This is what Hitchens et al try to do. Just a small point, it's juice not liquor!
benjio77 1 month ago
@benjio77 Many of Christians are skeptical (have you ever heard of a christian turning atheist?) You make it seem like Christians don't think about what they believe? So, "brainwashing" kids is wrong? Is this a fact? Can you show me the scientific evidence for this fact! Until you provide scientific evidence for your "fact" I will not accept your claims! How I'm suppose to know it was juice when there is a liquor bottle standing right next to the kid?
chrismac1980 1 month ago
@chrismac1980 Please could you stop misrepresenting me and putting words in my mouth. I have not mentioned Christianity in any of my posts, I have just talked about the definition of critical thinking.
I don't have any scientific evidence that ''brainwashing kids is wrong'' (your quote) but I never made that claim anyway, so I don't know who you're argueing with.
Read my first post again. Do you agree or not that teaching critical thinking is the opposite of indoctrination?
benjio77 1 month ago
@benjio77 O.k.. So, if someone believes something that has no evidence for it, these people are not thinking critically? Is this what you are trying to say? Do you believe in right and wrong? Is there evidence for it? The answer is NO. So if you say "god doesn't exist" are you right! Since we can't "test" what is right and wrong, you not thinking critically!
chrismac1980 1 month ago
@chrismac1980 Hate to intrude on ya folks, looks like you are getting along fine... but ummmmmm.... really? Right and wrong are CONCEPTS.... God is a SUPERNATURAL BEING..... You basically are making the statement that concepts are the same as supernatural beings..... so justice isn't real because I don't believe in the existence of unicorns? Okay.... wow..... that is REAL insightful. I will now leave you to argue amongst yourselves. ~Godzilla Hugs~
johncwilson 1 month ago
@johncwilson Over to you John, chrismac seems to have got critical thinking, indoctrination, evidence, religion, god, right and wrong all mixed up into one big pile of confusion and can't seem to distinguish between any of them. I don't think he's a troll, though.
benjio77 1 month ago
@benjio77 I don't think he is a troll either... seems more like somebody who gets their arguments/ideas from the likes of venomfangx, ian juby, and nephilimfree..... chrismac has so many logical fallacies in just the comments I've seen here I don't think there would be any reason for you to continue to argue... just a waste of energy and time. My daughters love Sam Harris btw. :) ~Godzilla Hugs~
johncwilson 1 month ago
@johncwilson I recently had a poke at NephilimFree. I asked him polite questions about human chromosome 2, and it took me exactly two questions and 36 hours to be called ignorant and get blocked. If you get bored and you're up for a laugh, have a go and try to beat my record! ''Those filthy lying evolutionists......''
benjio77 1 month ago
@benjio77 Nope don't have mixed up on right and wrong! Least I have a standard for it. Can you explain yours?
chrismac1980 1 month ago
@johncwilson Without God, why are these "concepts" so important? If they were only "concepts" why do you feel good when you do right and bad when you do wrong. Did you know most murderers turn themselves in due to their conscious! On your worldview, what is your standard for right and wrong? There are no good reasons to believe in unicorns! You atheist's make it seem like the unicorn statement is the knockout blow, but it's garbage!
chrismac1980 1 month ago
@chrismac1980 lol! Another gem! You have got to be the most BRILLIANT mind I have ever encountered! I will be sharing this comment with everyone I can! Thank you! Thank you so much for putting me in my place and showing all of us where you stand and how "intelligent" you are! Thank you!! :) (that whole "unicorn statement" thing you did there... LMFAO! I needed that! ow my sides hurt....) I will not respond again, as you have obviously bested me good sir. Thanks for the laugh! ~Godzilla Hugs~
johncwilson 1 month ago
@johncwilson So what is your standard? If I'm wrong and your right, what standard are using to determine this? Answer the question! I just love how you atheist's claim that Christians are so stupid, but never answer the questions! I never claimed to put anyone in their place! I'm just asking you to answer the question. It's that simple! Lose the pride and learned some humility!
chrismac1980 1 month ago
@chrismac1980 In a study done of 300 killers only 2.3% turned themselves in... that's 7 out of 300! So the statement "most murderers turn themselves in due to their conscious!" is made up, you just pulled it out of your ass. (Your source?) BTW, I worked at the Nebraska State Penitentiary as a correctional officer for over 5 years, I am the wrong person to try and use these kind of made up statistics on. If you lie to prove your point, you have already lost the argument. We are done. Gooodbye.
johncwilson 1 month ago
@johncwilson Like I told the other guy, if Christians are so dumb and atheist's are so "smart" why continue to respond to our post!!! Lol.. Fine only 2.3% turn themselves due their conscious, that begs the question? On your atheist world view, were does the conscious come from? Why do you have it? And what is the standard for right and wrong.. You are done because you can't answer the dumb christian questions? BYEEEEE
chrismac1980 1 month ago
@chrismac1980 ''So, if someone believes something that has no evidence for it, these people are not thinking critically?''- Correct.
''Do you believe in right and wrong?'' - Yes.
''So if you say "god doesn't exist" are you right!''- I didn't assert that god doesn't exist, again you are putting words in my mouth.
Right and wrong relate to the wellbeing of conscious creatures, see Sam Harris 'The Moral Landscape' for a discussion of these concepts. We're done.
benjio77 1 month ago
Gulp. Gulp. Gulp. Just drank the real thing. Over and over. n noow I''m haveing troble typiiing....ssdssnffnnr fr fffjfjffjjjjyyyyyyyhhnhnhggnmm,//??lllllllp009uytdghhVoteKiarafffhfhrnnhnhnu... Seriously, Video awesome!
zabukazar 2 months ago
adorablee :)
SunshineAgo 2 months ago
that was cute :)
goreziad 2 months ago
I love watching kiara videos they always make me smile no matter how dark the hour... but in honesty i would like to hear more about what she thinks of atheism, hitchens etc.
FratisNox 2 months ago
She pounds like a CHAMP!
slitor 2 months ago
Aww, Kiara's adorable!
Afriboy10 2 months ago
Damn, she murdered that apple drank.
HybridD91 2 months ago
wow, if that *hadn't* been apple juice then your daughter is ten kinds of cast-iron. Then again, she may yet be :)
rainsoakedpuppy 2 months ago
She is too cute
Avonidsed 2 months ago
Aww, I thought it was canola oil
TheRepublicOfUngeria 2 months ago
forever in our hearts and bookshelves will he persist, as well as live. Don't be dismayed, as he spoke all the words now we need to buy them, share them, and live by our interpretation of them. He was..against his own credence or wish a hero to me. You will be missed as long as secular freethinkers are allowed to breath. Love you C.H. <3
JesusMagicShow 2 months ago
I loved it. Kiara is a beautiful young lady.
redcloak676 2 months ago
Thanks Kiara. This cheered me up a bit.
theskepticalheretic 2 months ago
@theskepticalheretic always there to cheer you up, that's Kiara's plan!
johncwilson 2 months ago
@johncwilson give her a hug for me.
theskepticalheretic 2 months ago
That is just plain adorable.
TommyFilth1 2 months ago
If Kiara is anything to go by, a great many of her generation will do Hitch proud indeed
mrsanity 2 months ago
ITS APPLEJOOOS
PieDizzle 2 months ago
@PieDizzle Applejews?
gyneve 2 months ago
I was around that age when I first drank hard liquor. oh the memories.
apple juice?!
never mind.
Nixom1334 2 months ago
cute :)
EshaChand 2 months ago
D'awww! She's a little chugger! That's awesome! :D
VarmitCoyote 2 months ago
Up and coming alcoholic there :P
oliethefolie 2 months ago
Absolutely adorable!
KCKatheist 2 months ago
you shouldn't have stated it was apple juice,it ruins the fun!
hitchy RIP
FractalMachine 2 months ago
@FractalMachine It ruins the fun when someone reports you to CPS for not saying it is apple juice.
godshiva 2 months ago
So cute :) !!!!!!!
jda978 2 months ago
I love this! ~B
BronwenWinterPhoenix 2 months ago
@BronwenWinterPhoenix and Kiara loves you!
johncwilson 2 months ago
Roflmao. Your daughter can hold her juice.
I had a feeling it was apple juice when she didn't gag. : P
EvoGenVideos 2 months ago
is that really the sound she makes when she drinks? That's five tons of adorable!
dgeypscun 2 months ago 4
@dgeypscun yep... everyday. Loses it's cuteness don't ya know?
johncwilson 2 months ago
This most certainly would have made Hitchens giggle. Hell, I laughed as soon as I saw the thumbnail. :D
PJsCreed 2 months ago
@PJsCreed yes... that thumbnail rocks!
johncwilson 2 months ago
What the...? PLEASE tell me that's...!
Oh, phew! Heh.
BionicDance 2 months ago
@BionicDance ;)
johncwilson 2 months ago