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  • Jesus Christ, if Dawkins came to my door, I'd probably jump on him and say, "A SIGN OF HUMAN INTELLIGENCE! WELCOME! WELCOME!"

  • Yesterday in my grade 9 IB history class (in Canada), we did a short 'compare your answers to find similar people' survey. Out of the 20 people in my class, four said they were atheists. There were various other religions, but the largest group in one religion was around nine people. That, is a very close amount, i've never been so proud of my country and the youth in it.

  • "(creation) is only backed by some ancient scribblings." Well put. The "greatest story ever told" should be put in its place like that.

  • @Raellz I don't think so. Regardless, most of our health care is free!

  • Freethinkers in America should move to Canada! We are so much more accepted here.

  • Man that priest in Part three - - - he is one hell of an Arrogant Self righteous bastard - - - his "Faith" was challenged, and he reacted exactly the same way that all people like him react - - - with attacking the reason, and I can bet, that he even don't believe the crap he is preaching 80 million dollars for religious building, money that would better served for charity . . .

  • The priest on the cellphone... hahahaha!!!

  • It's so damn obvious that god is the insane idea(some all-powerful, All knowing being) that were the rantings of a mentally ill man (Jesus). Governments loved the idea that they could control to some extent what people did or thought. there is no god. god doesn't exist. when laws are made or taxes spent on people go to prison or are scamed(respectively), yes, it does affect me protested, got my sign broke and a nuisance ticket to say NO to a church. with tax money.

  • @AtheistPharmacist In fact, I have discovered lots of historical proof that Jesus was in fact a Buddhist monk who died in Kashmir, India in 80 AD. The gnostic christians all believed this, and there are lots of similarities with early christianity and Buddhishm. However, a man called Paul created the christianity we know today.

  • RELIGION IS POR INDIVIDUALS WITH LOW I.Q .... AND IN NEED OF GUIDANCE....CONSTANTINE WHO INVENTED THIS CHRISTIANISM DID NOT BELIEVE IT HIMSELF. IN MY FAMILY THE DUMMIES ARE ALL RELIGIOUS....WE HAVE TWO FRIERS AND TWO NONES. THE SMART ONES BOUGHT MICROSOFT SHARES AND NOW ARE RICH....JA JA JA LIVING IN MALLORCA SPAIN

  • Faith can be defined briefly as an illogical belief in the occurrence of the improbable. A person full of faith is simply one who has lost or never had the capacity for clear and realistic thought. (Henry Louis Mencken)

  • Mr Spangler is my physics teacher!

  • If the Muslims' claim that Jews aren't barred from al-Aqsa is true, then logically they would have had no reason to go apeshit like they did when Sharon arrived there. But then again, logic does not seem to apply to a religiously tense place like Jerusalem, a focal point for three religions that rarely get along.

  • I'm so happy that Jesus was wipped and beaten!

  • Religion is like Conservative Anarchism or Facism.

  • It is true in so far as the law that applies in the absence of Religion is the fittest will survive, please don't talk about the pacifist they are usually the first to be exploited, Religion has been exploited by politicians and became institutions instead of the teachings becoming an accepted moral yardstick by all. He uses the word fundamentalist and extremism, but he is the terrorist and extremist. Trying to terrorize me with examples like Ussama and to destroy the guide book is extreme.

  • It is true in so far as the law that applies in the absence of Religion is the fittest will survive, please don't talk about the pacifist they are usually the first to be exploited, Religion has been exploited by politicians and became institutions instead of the teachings becoming an accepted moral yardstick by all. He uses the word fundamentalist and extremism, but he is the terrorist and extremist. Trying to terrorise me with examples like Ussama and to destroy the guide book is extreme.

  • ALL YOUR ARROGANT MASTERS OF YOUR OWN DESTINY< YOU SO SMART< WHY DONT LIVE FOREVER? HOW MANY YEARS DO YOU HAVE 50 60 70 maybe 80 some of you. SO WE ALL DIE and whats the point, you can go through life like an animal or you can embrace your real purpose. ATHEISM IS LIKE SAYING ITS COOL TO KILL YOU IF I CAN GET AWAY WITH IT, I CAN STEAL FROM YOU, I AN ABUSE YOU ALL I WANT AND IT MEANS ABSOLUTELY NOTHING, IF YOU MENTION THE WORD MORALS THEN YOU A HYPOCRITE and means THAT YOU FOLLOWING A CODE/BELIEF

  • @kaapie89 That is not true at all

  • In the Freethinkers meeting, John Spengler is my teacher.

  • CHRIST-FAGS ARE LAME! Evolution has been proven. Creationism is like saying that everything came from god's semen.

  • Peace and rationality is belief and obedience to ALLAH, chaos, anarchy and oppression is the result of the deviation from the obedience of ALLAH. WHEN A MAN MAKES THE ASSUMPTION THAT HE CAN DO AS HE PLEASES HE STARTS TO OPRESS HIMSELF AND ULTIMATELY EVERYONE AROUND HIM. WORSHIP ALLAH, not the church synogoge or ka'aba, Do not worship a human being and forget about tradition. Christians Worshipping the Cross is like worshipping a murder weapon after a murder!

  • @kaapie89 Get a fukin life!

  • @RevInt1 GOOD ANSWERS, VERY wise words and seems to be the line that indicates mental defeat.

  • @kaapie89 No you dumb fuck. Mental defeat exists when you cant think for yourself and choose to think the way a fucking book tells you to. You can do everything the Quran tells you to do, think, act and speak like it tells you to, but you'll never know what being an independent thinker is. I do, I used to be a man of faith, but I started to question what I believed and here I am, a proud atheist. So dont give me your little speach on defeat. If anything, I have victory!

  • @kaapie89 u mohhaMAD?

  • IF YOU HAVE NOTHING DIE FOR YOU HAVE NOTHING TO LIVE FOR. THIS DELUSION THAT IT IS ALL FOR NOTHING IS THE MOST DANGEROUS CONCEPT EVER SOLD AND THE START OF ALL THE BAD THINGS REGARDLESS OF RACE COLOUR CREED OR SEX. IT IS THE ESSENCE OF SUICIDES.

    

  • @kaapie89 i do, though.

    My artwork and my loved ones.

    I dont need somebody to tell me that raping and killing and stealing is wrong, because i know its wrong, only parasites do this.

    I live because i want to live, not because my imaginary friend told me to.

    Religion was invented to separate the human race, it's only purpose is to cause hate.

  • Dawkins "Nürnberg Rallye" comment to Ted Meth Haggard was absolutely on the money. The Nazis used a lot of the pagentry from religion, and self-stigmatization so typical of religions. It is always amazing how religious leaders constantly say they are under attack..... It is how they justify themselves.

  • @rabidsushi

    Yes, i think anti-intellectualism is sweeping America. At might prove disastrous as these people can influence politics and media and dictate policies with their clout.

  • As an atheist, I'm still not convinced how, for instance, moderate Christians (members of a religion) fit under the description, "root of all evil"

  • Its bush who destroyed the twin towers,not Islamic warriors lol xD i laugh so much when i hear that,it doesn't say in the Quran that we should be a suiced bomber,killing people or killing yurself is forbiden in Islam.

  • dawkins calls religion hateful but his words are more hate filled & murderous.

  • @darkfur35 Bollocks!

  • @SuperNanel very weird !

  • @SuperNanel Very weird !

  • 0:20 As a Canadian I say, go ahead, the more the better.

  • @dave19941000

    ditto! "One nation under Dawkins" lol

  • lol. Challenge everything! ...except my discipline (biology)...

  • Colorado SPrings sounds like a backwards society

  • I really have problem believing that people face problem if they declare themselves atheists in the US, the so-callled world's most advanced country. I am an Indian and I wear atheism on my sleeves. Nobody cares.

  • @ashutoshmikku

    I am not an athiest (or religious person) but you'd be suprised how many people are verbally attacked, beat up, slandered, lose their jobs, mocked/bullied and outcasted just b/c they are athiest/do not believe in the biblical god in the U.S.

  • @DaTruth2024

    This is scary. 

  • questioning religion, question history....If religion is only evil, ppl like mother tressa and other philinthropists have got this message of humainity by their religious teachings...

    show the good side as well..

    really if u thnk athesim is good, some of hated dictators causing world sufferings more thn previous history sufferings by athesits such as Hitler, Stalin etc...If u counter the religion and God to just sufferings, show also the good sides as wel.

  • Watch some of Richards interviews where he's asked about Hitler and Stalin, yes Stalin was an Atheist, but Hitler was not.

    Not only that but more people on this planet have been killed in the name of "God" than Hitler and Stalin combined.

  • @miseryowns its not the religion to be blame soley, the politics (for me its just the game of bunch of ppls interest), and though I m n t supporter of communism, but the other way around of socio-economic factor also play a vital role in fights and wars..

    this includes injustice in society..e.g When Israel kills innocent civilians, the surviving children got the feeling of revenge, but then their revenge is channeled by religion, bt the point lies here is to remove the cause i.e injustice

  • @miseryowns the cause is injustice in the previous case, religion was used as weapon, if we need peace and harmony, we should concentrate to stop the operession, if we remove religion as in the case its a weapon, still fight will not end, some way or another, the feeling of revenge will be carried out by some other idealogy...

  • @hafeez587 You use Mother Theresa as an example of good??! Do some research.

  • The Inquisition is a reason enough to despise religion!!!!! (It was at least 10 times worse tha the Holocaust)

  • the phrase "onward christian soliders" makes me shudder

  • targerting biology?only biology this just shows how narrow minded those american extremists are they'd have to cancel Physics, Anstronomy, Chemsistry, Literature, History if they REALLY want mindless followers!!!

  • It is relieving and actually quite heartwarming, to see a bunch of organized rational and freethinking Americans getting together. Since I found out about Richard Dawkins, I have realized that a big part of the American people are tired of religion, and has become rational individuals, who questions the American religious society!

  • There are a lot of Americans who are tired of religion!

  • Lol @ 6:20

  • Religion = War = Death = Power = Greed = Suffering = Racism = Ignorance = Viscous Circle, start from the begining and continue...

  • i really wanna say i agree, but i won't say anything of that sort, because that's what they would like to hear. i do believe that religion is truly and utterly destructive to humans

  • are you attempting to declare the irreducible complexity of the cell?

    I certainly hope not.

  • uhhh, yes i am and i have no idea why im telling you this when you know that i am. how abought telling me something besides making dumb statements.

  • That`s a shame. You are not familiar with the highly probable process known as Prebiotic chemical evolution, where by nonliving structures tend towards a state of homeostasis? It is a concept given wide spread attention in the study of abiogenesis. And much of what we have seen in modern Biochem labs owe this explanation greater credence, Namely the Observed and wholly unguided process of the formation of the protocells required constituents. Irreducible complexity fail.

  • by the way can any of you athiests out there show me evidence there is no God, i can show how evolution can't possiblly be true can you do the same. and also i have yet to see anyone properly define faith. nowhere does the Bible say check youre brain at the door like were supposed to blindly follow there is a certain amount of faith but don't athiests use chance in the same way? everyone ive met does.

  • proof god doesnt exist? proof unicorns, yeti or the loch ness monster doesnt exist.

    you cant proof a negative.

    as far as disproving evolution, how does that help your cause? disproving theory A doenst mean proof of theory B (or C....ZZ).

    the way you copare faith with chance show you have no idea what your talking about.

  • @acvossius wow..havent heard that before quit sidestepping the issue moron, and by the way i bring up evolution becouse that seems to be the consensous view with Dawkins fans...so why wouldent i discuss that, plus yeti's and unicorn arent up for debate there evidence for a designer out there thats strong enough to be considered a scientific theory which is way more sound then anything evolution has brought to the table there is no scientific proof for unicorns. your comparing apples and oranges.

  • You cant seriously be claiming irreducible complexity to be a valid argument against evolution, thats been disproven time and again (shanks, joplin, miller etc.)

    What evidence for a designer? and evidence in not considered a theory, theories explain evidence.

    Calling me, or others names doesnt validate anything you say either.

    As usual you scream and insult and make claims without offering evidence or showing any understanding of logic and the scientific method.

  • Oh and please try and write in decent english, it makes your rantings easier to read

  • well if your going to bring up shanks then i don't know what else to say, ive read him and let me tell you he's as bad as watching dawkins first off he writes alot of BS but once you sift through it you find he' knows nothing, joplin , miller, i dont know who they are? and you think throwing out names is proving anything? if joplin and miller are like shanks ive got better things to do sorry....you want proof give me your email ill send you proof , you tube only lets you write so much

  • Well you can give me the references, i have acces to several universities` libraries, both physical and online. Most peerreviewed magazines etc. are freely available.

  • sent you some articles, and please send me some i want to read them

  • Please don't cite Behe's work. There are not demonstrated "irreducibly complex" structures, there are well accepted accounts on how these things could have evolved.

  • He did, and bembski too, and its not lab work or experiments, just popular books.

    Always claiming evolution has been disproven without some actual scientific research data to back it up.

    Having read "a brief history of time", can i now make educated statements about astrophysics?

    I have population biologists, chemical engineers and a particle physicist (all phd`s) among my friends. Give us something they could test themselfs in a lab?

  • So no actual scientific research papers? to send, or are you still looking?

  • the guy at 1:04 says that if you come out and say your athiest then you could lose youre job where is this happening and by the way if a scientist comes out and says that intelligent design has some validity then he's fired so dawkins needs to get his head out of his ass for showing that and basically trying to say it is one sided..by the way MAYDONBOR youre post was ridiculous. you said athiests think, well i'm thinking right now that youre a nutcase...

  • thee error made is when arguments arise. if you believe somthing ->believe it it for yourself. when you try to impose that belief on someone else that is when conflict will arise. and we all know how un necessary conflict is.

  • god always has the fanciest decorators... how can he hate gays?

  • A casual stroll through the lunatic asylum shows that faith does not prove anything.

    Faith: not wanting to know what is true.

    A subject for a great poet would be God's boredom after the seventh day of creation.

    Fear is the mother of morality.

    What do you regard as most humane? To spare someone shame.

    To live is to suffer, to survive is to find some meaning in the suffering.

    There are no facts, only interpretations.

    Friedrich Nietzsche

  • I work in a prison and often ask inmates "If you had thought before you did what landed you here in prison, would we be having this conversation?" A reasonable person is one who will exercise the faculty of reason- thinking. Religion is faith- not thinking. If you allow others to lead you down the primrose path, whose fault is it, yours or the Pied Piper?

  • And now the both of you have only made an ass of yourselves and a mockery of your beliefs. I am closer to atheist and pride myself a PEARList. The idea of God and an afterlife are irrelevant, people can believe whatever it is they choose so long as they do not expect money to support them, do not force those beliefs on others, and certainly dont gain political or social power because of those beliefs. I focus on what we have, and what we can do with it. Circular arguements get us nowhere.

  • meydanBor, just shut up. Your making us all look bad.... I'm an atheist also and I proud myself on it. But its Atheists like you who make us look bad. Your making claims just like the theists are that know 100% that their is no god there is no hell. The truth is that you dont know it as a FACT, do don't make those claims.

    Or if you do, use your I statements...

    (I believe there no hell... I think there's no god..etc.)

  • hell does not exist BITCH.

    we Atheists are thinking RATIONAL people, We ask questions and answer them with thinking not with the only answer u have= GOD.

    why are we here? god.

    who made the world? god.

    NO.

    u ask no questions, just believe in god with no proof....

  • "For since the creation of the world His invisible attributes, His eternal power and divine nature, have been clearly seen, being understood through what has been made, so that they are without excuse."- Romans 1:20

  • Superboy, using quotes from the bible to defend your belief in god, is like using quotes from Tolkien to prove the existence of elves.

  • Its the Holy Spirit's job to work in nonbelievers.

  • Good analogy.

  • That is true, "Superboy" is an idiot.

  • Best youtube comment I have ever read, brilliant.

  • @0n0s0 except Tolkien is better written.

  • @0n0s0 Hahahaha!

  • ''And lo, across the galaxies came Dawkins who sayeth unto ye 'I am the true messiah' " - Book Of Bollocks 1:1. Just because it is written does not make it so.

  • stupid fuckin cunt

  • Dawkins is a scholar and a gentleman.

  • Christian fascism if growing like a noxious weed. It can only grow where it is carefully fed and watered by evil, manipulative people who see it as a way to power and wealth.

  • well as long as it stops islam from growing, I'll cheer on the lesser evil.

  • Take your god and shove it up your ass, you brainwashed freak.

  • be nice. they can't help it

  • No, I refuse to be nice to such ignorance. The world as suffered too much already for this nonsensical "right" to believe what you want. We have cowered in fear of religious zealotry since the dawn of time. It stops here.

    It's about time atheists fight back, we should outlaw religion and remove this stain on humanitys conscience.

  • rot in hell you fool. There is a God. You are satans child.

  • Lol, I rest my case.

  • go to hell.

  • It's time we said "no, you dont have the right to believe what you want". Some particular beliefs (such as christianity for example) have been proven to be violent, evil and corruptive to any human society and should be outlawed and treated forcefully, just as with drug addiction.

    People sentenced should be sent away for de-programming in mental hospitals to help them rid their mind of this neurological disorder. A good psychiatrist can remove this disease from a mind, and remake free thought.

  • may science help your life

  • Mobby: it does, every day more so.

    I am free to think whatever I want, not based on ANY kind of dogma or script delivered to me from the bronze age. I do not suffer from a permanentlky damaged self image, i do not fear sexuality and I don not need to satisfy an evil, egocentric and jealous "god" created thousands of years before what christians claim.

    In other words: my mind is my own and not the property of the church and santa-jeebus.

  • you fuckin idiot

  • ignorance is the root of all evil not religion in itself. On the other hand, all religion is ignorance...

    It's time for atheists to take to arms and fight back. Religious insanity has dominated the world for too long and unless we fight, its not going to stop until these nutjobs have destroyed the entire world fighting each other.

  • I hate religion so much.

  • ridiculous. TRUE christians (I dont' know about other religions) but true christians love thy neighbor as themselves.

    Oh, and btw, I love science, and keep an open mind.

  • Really? How many "true" Christians are there? :P

  • plenty you freak.

  • I suggest you read leland61 comment. You are a fascist. Besides, any "True" Christians have their moral compass warped. So that is the point? If there is a true Christian, they aren't very good people. Stoning your children, gender inequity to say a few of the values a true christian would uphold. Also, the one who says others are stupid are stupid themselves. By the same gesture, you are the real freak.

  • To quote a great comedian: What if you suffer from low self-esteem?

  • whaat? lol

  • As someone who has become an ardent atheist.

    I must say that Prof Dawkins has helped me become more and more secularist in my opinions. He, Christopher Hittchens and Pat Condell are truly fantastic and fascinating in their critcisim's of religion.

    And the violence, hypocracy they spread.

    Long Live Secularism.

  • AMEN (forgive the pun) BROTHER!

  • Religion is the root of all evil

  • Wrong. Religion is just a tool. A hammer is not the reason a house is built. It's just the tool used 2 get the Job done. What job does religion get done? Well, it controls the masses for one. 4 example You can make state laws on the basis of religious beliefs, in turn controlling people. Take stem cell research or even abortion..most of the contradicting view points come from religious thinking and morality. Some people oppose stem cell research because they think its meddling with "god's work".

  • everybody knows korea is gonna sell afganistan one of their "almost-nukes" and they are gonna blow the entire place to a little holy pile of rubble. so we atheists have nothing to fear!

  • Go to google video and watch the documentary "orwell rolls over in his grave" I only suggest it because of your nukes comment. I think you may enjoy it.

  • So if I'm understanding you correctly, once the religious fanatics who hate the secular (at least officially secular) western culture have nuclear weapons, secular westerners have nothing to fear? Personally, I'm afraid of your lack of fear. I wish we could just eradicate the crazy people so Islamic fanaticism would be gone forever. Then the U.S. could rebuild the WTC's in Mecca where the kaaba once stood. The "holy-land" could be turned into a giant Wal-Mart supercenter.

  • "The war between good and evil is really just the war between two evils."

    The fact that Dawkins has already assumed that there is 'good' and 'evil' makes him just as dogmatic as the people he criticizes. The irony is sweet.

  • I bet the second you heard him say that your eyes spontaneously lit up and didn't actually think about it. Either that or you're intentionally trying to confuse people that watched this video themselves. He doesn't assume that there is a good an evil, but is just referencing what other people believe is good and evil. Just because he uses the words doesn't mean they are his.

  • He made a normative judgment while belittling other's normative judgments. The words are his and he did presuppose something from which to base 'good' and 'bad.'

  • I see you deleted your comment whatsetyouapart because you realized how ridiculous it was:

    "Natural selection exists but to say it causes the FACT of evolution is patently stupid and shows how brainwashed you are."

    You're an idiot. Natural selection is the main cause along with genetic mutations for both Micro & Macro Evolution. You obviously have no knowledge in this area of science and need to shut the fuck up.

    I hate it when you Christians misquote science and pretend to understand it!!!

  • Also, realize that this program is directed at people that Dawkins hopes he may be able to convince to get away from theism, so he uses theists words because he's talking of them.

    If this was for atheists he would only be preaching to the choir, pun intended.

  • The thing is..i dont think there really is good & evil, right and wrong. people will say "it's wrong to kill." yet..most dont think its wrong to pour bleach on mold. Its just your perspective. There could be an alien race out there..so far advanced & evolved that they see us the way we see mold. They would have no quarell about killing us. Because from their perspective we are just a basic life form.Therfore right & wrong are dependant on perspective. Does this make sense to anyone?

  • Furthermore "truth" is dependant on perspective as well. For example: If a flea could write, it might say, "A dog is a HUGE creature." yet a Giraffe would argue, " Actually a dog is quite small." Both of them are telling the "truth" from their Limited perspective. Therefore it is really impossible to know the truth..if there is any. Truth, right and wrong, they are all dependant on perspective.

  • Of course it makes sense. The first part of your post is correlated with mine. And your overall point is well taken.

  • yes, that makes perfect sense. thats what i believe too because it has to be right.

  • yes but please dont pour bleach on mold for gods sake. haha see what i did there. but seriously i do understand what you are saying. right and wrong are relative.

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  • You're a brainwashed idiot. Look at the facts, and do some research before you say nonsense like that.

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  • You disagree with Evolution = You do not possess the ability to acknowledge facts and accept them when they are staring you in the face.

    Therefore there is no point me arguing with you, considering you're an idiot.

    You are a disgrace to logic, I love science and live by logic and fact, whereas you; you don't believe in Evolution... Calling the kettle black?!

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  • Jerusalem looks like a shit hole.

  • shd be GaySingleStupidMulatto

  • 5:30 this man says its proof because people would tell other people about this. now i'm not saying this really happened, but do you remember the 1st grade were the teacher told you the word "cookies and cream" and told that student to pass it on to the other, untill the last student was told these words. he or she would say the wrong words. where as science is tested over and over again and all the data is written down. and the best part is that YOU can test it yourself. "people told people" xD

  • game is called telephone (at least around here) it's a fun game.

  • An even bigger part of that is that the original words passed down weren't right to start with.

  • 5;39 "...you dont really believe that do you ...." hahahahahahaha, nice one Dawkey

  • How the heck has a place where (supposedly) somebody got whipped and beaten turned into a tourist attraction? How much more morbid can that be?

  • yeah wtf is wrong with people.

  • easy question, do you think women have rights? if so, you shouldn't follow any religion.

  • ROFL, i though it was hilarious to see the guardian of the tomb of jesus to be arguing on the phone. One thing that confuses me is why would he be arguing in English when the predominant languages in Israel are Hebrew and Arabic

  • cause of english moron tourists?

  • What I wonder is, how can religion be evil. Religion ahs done me personally no ahrm. In fact, I feel worse when I didn't have a strong influence of God in my life. No when I am anger, he clams me, when I am sad, he comforts me, when I am happy, I thakn him, and feel even better, when I feel as though he isn't, he shows me he is. My life has been so much better emotionaly due to God, how can such a thing be evil?

  • Well an atheist uses the word evil quite differently.

    For me "evil is the absence of empathy".

    Its good that you feel happy in your religion, but for me you must keep it out of science, because it isnt science, out of politics which is very dangerous, dont teach it to my kids, or discriminate against me or others.

    Then Im happy not to encroach on your faith.

  • But your definition of evil is not what religion is. In fact religion IS the founder of empathy and compasion. But more on that later, I agree keep it out of politics and do not discrimite someone for their religion, as long as they don't try and tell me I am stupid for having a religion. Maybe thats why a lot of people don't like atheists, for that very good reason. But you kind of have to teach it to children. Religion is part of history, you can't censor it, and I will teach it to my kids.

  • I didnt call you "stupid" I never say that to any one on the Internet.

    I understand thats not what you and the bible call "evil", thats my own personal view of the word. There was empathy and compassion before Christianity, you can find lots of examples, and even societies that have never known Christianity like Amazon Indians understand what compassion is, its an evolutionary trait in us all.

  • What I ment is that a lot of atheists look down a ridicul theists for being religious.

  • Of course youre right that does happen. But if I could ask you to look at it differently. If I said I didnt like the colour of your shirt or politics, you wouldnt give shit. But cos faith seems to lodge itself in the part of the brain that takes things really personally, & cos an atheist doesnt feel that, they appear insensitive. I also think this sensitivity has been a wall protecting fundamentalism, which hides behinds moderates who've built up a PC wall, "you musnt criticise peoples faith"

  • Let me ask you thid? Would you insult a person of another race or ethnicity openly and seriously just for being that other race? Would any atheist? If not, then why critize religion? SInce you said, we have no control over what religion we are, it would seem very disrespectful to critize others religion.

  • Exactly, & being mixed race Anglo/Iraqi of course I wouldnt, & I cant understand why faith thinks it deserves the same respect.

    A race isnt an argument for how to live your life. Race is not automatically saying AIDS is bad but condoms are worse. Race isnt responsible for hitting the wall at 400 mph. A man made institution needs to be investigated by humanity, at the very least if it is telling us where we came from, how to live & what the future holds. If people are offended, its just too bad.

  • Actually yes, race has it's own culture and identity, so does religion. Also the is these people in Afrika have AIDS, I think they should have the common sense not to have sex, but other than, that the Church doesn't actually say that condoms are bad, they simply discourage sex for pleasure, but only for having babies, thus, condoms are for sex for pleasure, thus they are bad. Atheists often say that as ammo agaisnt Christianity, they are very ignorant to what the church REALLY opposes.

  • A race can have many cultures and religions, national borders are no certainty. Look at the Sunni and Shea, 2 religions and cultures within Iraq. My father was a Christian Iraqi.

    The Catholic church forbids condom use, period, and this has caused the death of 100s of thousands.

    Or just google AIDS Catholic Church. and research all the stuff, its shocking.

    Im from west London, where are you hanging? If you dont mind mentioning on here.

  • Cont. That Nigeria thing, I have no opinon on. That just seems a bit, well out there batshit crazy. Also not all Muslims are terrorists, and most of them (The terrorist) are just depressed on what to do. They can't rebel, they've tried that, they cant go to war. hat's what they came up with to stop the westerization of their nations. I can see why their side of the story. But they need to sotp killing innocents, and just kill their TARGETS which are Americans.

  • Also it must be hard for an Iraqi Christian nowadays. But the Sunni and Shea Muslims are brothers, I wonder why they fight. I mean the Protestant and Catholics fought during the Thrity years war, so I can see why they fight, but I wonder why religious groups of the same religion fight each other. It seems counter-productive. BTW I live in Chicago suburbs,US, but I was born in Poland and raised in Germany, it's on my channel. Nice to meet another Englander on Youtube. They have a lot of you guys.

  • Sunni and Shea same culture same race, there is civil war between them on religious grounds, because there religion makes different claims. We had Catholic and Protestant war in British owned Northern Ireland for 25 yrs.

    Hay, I got a Polish girl friend.

  • True, I've heard of the fight between Northern Ireland Protestants and Irish catholics. Anyway, I mean that in the Islamic camlipahte, women ere allowed to be educated, they were allowed to own land is their husband died, and other rights that women in the Us didn't get for years afterwards. I still have no idea about the clits thing. In any religion it seems rather, well just wrong.

  • History tells us peoples places are better at some time than others.

    Women in Britain were better off before the Romans invaded and the Christianity of the dark ages. Women were better of with Islam in the sixth century than before, but that was the 6th century.

    History gives us great lessons.

    But I am also concerned about now.

    The clit cutting is religious, and if youre saying its "just wrong" and you offended the holy, then we can agree "its just too bad"

  • Cutting off clits is done one religious grounds in many places, including Saudi Arabia, along with women not being allowed to drive on principles set down by religious leaders. How can that be "more rights", in Pakistan a women's word is worth less than a mans in a court of law, that is an interpretation of Islam.

  • "If people are offended, its just too bad." A bigot once told me that, after he told me to "Get the fuck out of my country, wetback Nazi." But I'm not compairing you to a bigot, because clearly you're not, but I am saying that statements like that discourage religious and racal equal treatment and just puts you at odds end with the people your argueing.

  • Your welcome to visit my country any time, stay if you like.

    Im sure you would criticise a faith that was abhorrent to yours and practiced human sacrifice, or forbid women to drive, like Saudi Arabia, or cut off women's clits in Nigeria. Faith really isnt the same as race, it should and has to be scrutinised.

    Terrorists and extremists hide behind this armour of not offending faith.

  • For the final time, the church forbids condom use because they allow a perosn to have sex without the worries of haveing children, but the church teaches that sex should only occur for the SOLE purpose of having children, which condoms obvisouly were mde to keep from happening. ALso human sacrifice was to keep the world form ending, so the pagans belived. If thats what they belive, I can see why they did it. And Islam actually gives more rights to women than in the west.

  • But people are human, you cant just say they should abstain, people dont, they have sex, and because there is a banning of condom use they risk AIDS.

    Did you see the link, Catholic Bishops in Africa are telling people condoms cause AIDS, that I am sure you agree is disgusting.

    And that's why I don't care if I offend these Bishops.

    I always