I would then make confidential the high resolution files as top secret and then lose any non approved .remaining copies. If it was not really atomic i would add some radiocative elements to the bomb to give the illusion of Atomic bomb technology. In the end it either was developed or it wasnt, but from looking at this footage - it raises many questions + with 9/11 _ moon landings hoaxs confirmed - the "free world" has been duped time and time again. and the chimps just cant seem to get a grip.
@awakenlilrabbit Woah, 9/11 and the Moon Hoax was confirmed? I wasn't aware that reality itself was being warped by conspiracy theorists to confirm their ridiculous theories.
By the way, I love conspiracy theorists and their attitudes. "I know the truth, everyone ELSE in the world is just a stupid sheep being led by their corporate masters EXCEPT ME!"
@RojOdio I am fallible like the next chimp. Only thing is in my mind now I know i was Lied to my whole life unlike some who still worship at the feet of their masters. And this whole Duality belief like your on some other team because you see something different is a strange concept and all its doing is dividing by labelling those of a diff mindset. Its a hard fall when you realise your whole life learning is false so i dont blame you for not wanting the construct to collapse
@awakenlilrabbit Ah yes, the classic "Oh, I have no actual evidence to support any of my insane ramblings, so I'll just call anyone who doesn't agree with me a blind moron who can't see the TRUTH!"
Hey, if you yourself realize you can be misled, how do you know that the Moon Landing hoaxers, 9/11 conspiracy nuts, and nuclear weapons deniers are the ones that are telling the truth, and not the ones that are lying? After all, they make money selling their arguments.
@RojOdio No evidence to support claims? I have a mind and eyes that are not fooled by pretty images and dramatic audio. Im not in some Hoax, Nuts or Deniers group hehe.You act Like we have a weekly AA meetings. In fact i would say i would have little in common otherwise than being able to see past the smoke and mirrors. heaven forbid the thought of an opposing set of views. Eat your porridge my boy. Its going to get real bumpy....
@awakenlilrabbit Hey, I got a question for you. You obviously don't believe that photos, videos, scientific reports and eye witness testimonies are proof of the existence of an event or objects.
So, my question to you is, how do you know Antartica exists? How do you know the Moon is really a celestial object and not a 2D image on the canopy of the Earth? You've never seen electrols with your own eyes, so how do you think your computer is functioning?
@RojOdio In your childish mind, im not catching on..... to what is written everywhere documented and repeated like clockwork over and over. How can i not catch on to that repetitive drumming. Thats not hard to fathom, boy. The hard part is to pull it apart to see if it has some truth to it or not - then keep an open mind which i dont think your understanding to what im explaining to you from my current viewpoint. The small mind will always fall for proof given to them signed + sealed..
@awakenlilrabbit Avoiding the question. So I'll repeat it again:
If you don't accept nuclear weapons and the validity of nuclear test footage based on the fact that videos and photos can be faked or tricked, how would you accept them?
Would you require personal interaction at these sites?
And if you require personal evidence of nuclear reactions, do you or don't you require personal evidence of everything else in existance?
@RojOdio These events all occur. BUT They never happen like the golden book your reading from. What you are watching are holy-wood films passed of as "evidence" and after a lifetime of watching them you are now their protector to the illusion. The govt lies just like every corportation. time + time again. Why does it bother you that somone else actually questions the "official story" of events? does it affect your life? or do you need to answer the questions to re affirm your stance?
@RojOdio I know antractica exists. i also know there is a fucking big opening in the middle of it which you cant get photos of with natural terrain and flowing water - as per operation high jump. + has it ever been explored? Maybe. Will we ever know? probably not. As its classified. The most interesting knowledge is hidden while the vile of weapons and fear pervades the psyche. Fear based trauma seems to win out all the time
@awakenlilrabbit And you know Operation Highjump occured because why? You were there, I mean personally there? If you accept Operation Highjump (or anything really) even though you weren't there, then why not accept nuclear weapons?
You've never seen electrons, so how is your computer working?
@RojOdio Yawn. Who never said there was no bomb testing or 9/11 attacks. The question always remains to the common chimp. Who and what did it and why did they do it + what are the after effects from these incidents. If you can not see past your pronounced ridge then how can we share a banana? hmm chimpy
@awakenlilrabbit Changing the goal posts. Never, once, did you pose these questions. Your entire line of argument (if it can be called that) was that the nuclear footage you see in the video above is faked.
This is also avoiding the question of what it'd take for you to believe the above images are not fake.
@RojOdio I think you are right.. You do not exist. You are a robot repeating the same questions and stories in your computer mind. I would have more luck with a primate. Least he feels + can eat bananas with me... quack.
@awakenlilrabbit It's funny that you can't answer questions about your basic reasoning.
You don't accept nuclear test footage because it could be fake.
Therefore, I assume (since you can't be bothered to lay out any of your lines of reasoning) you don't accept anything unless you yourself see it.
Yet you then turn around and accept Antartica and Operation Highjump exist, even though you have not been there personally and rely on photos and reports of it's existence.
@RojOdio It's cliche, but it's true, unfortunately. You are sheep being completely duped and led by your intellectual masters.
And No, we haven't figured out much about how this world is really run, but we've figured out enough to know about hoaxes and how they are perpetuated through military and media propaganda. I'm sure you are one of those people that still think half the things on the Nightly News is true.
@RojOdio I believe what I can see and touch. For all else I use logic. Now some moron will say something like "Well how do you know France exists if you've never seen it with your own eyes?"
Well, the region known as France is a place that anyone can book a plane ticket right now and travel to. Therefore, I would logically say, Yea, France is real, even though I've never been.
@LifePsyop So, using the same logic, you can't just crack open a history book on the Manhattan Project, read through their work, and conclude that they did, in fact, have nuclear weapons at the time?
@RojOdio I can crack open a book and read about how shape-shifting aliens are running the world which is gathered from 'insider' information. Why should I believe in the insider-ish testimony of the Manhattan Project over shapeshifting aliens? Because they are the honest trustworthy US government? Why exactly do you believe what you read in His-Story books ? Give me one good reason.
@LifePsyop Because history books are corroberated by various sources of evidence. You don't open a history book and read something that's entirely unsourced and out of the blue, it's based on the work of several independant historians and institutions. It's bizarre to assume they'd all be working towards some conspiracy.
@RojOdio How are the historians independent if they're getting paid or maintaining some title that could be stripped from them? How much "independent" evidence exists in restricted areas or crime scenes controlled 100% by military or law enforcement? Lets use the alleged death of Osama Bin Laden for example. Tell me how a historian would prove that he is dead. Yet every history book will claim it is a truth. Doesn't have to be a conspiracy. It's just going with the social grain.
@LifePsyop Not all historians are in the employ of government institutions, and some receive private funding from organizations. They also can't suddenly be stripped of their credentials for no reason at all, there'd have to be a reason stated. Also, not all the people who make major discovers are affiliated with any organization, they could be independant people working on their own. There's no possible way to make everyone everywehre follow the same "made up" history.
@RojOdio Like I said, citing the Bin Laden example, none of these historians know the truth of what happened to him, yet every historian will write that he was killed by the Seal raid. This does not require any conspiracy at all. It is simply following a tendency the support the mainstream reporting of the world. They are afraid to write "we don't know if the military is being upfront" because of negative social repercussions. How can you not acknowledge this simple psychology?
@LifePsyop Why would, for instance, they assume that the military isn't being upfront? I know for instance, that sometimes the government omits and sometimes lies about information, anyone can see that. But it seems to me that conspiracy theorist take that knowledge and then stretch it to "the government lies all the time".
Let's, for example, say Osama wasn't killed as the government reports. He's still alive. What does he gain staying quiet? Doesn't he gain more by speaking out?
@LifePsyop I mean, a line you said earlier "Assuming Bin Laden is a real identity" seems to presuppose that the government is ALREADY lying about the existence of a prominent terrorist leader. How does anyone even hope to convince you "Yes, the US killed bin Laden in exactly the way they reported it" if you can just turn around and say "Well I don't even believe bin Laden exists".
@RojOdio "Sometimes the government omits and lies" Sometimes? Which times? How do you know they are lying here and telling the truth there? Your concept of the world seems to rely much more on faith in official honesty than strong facts and evidence.
And no, I do not believe in the mythical war on terror any more than I believe in dragons. Show me the evidence of this terrorist network that plots against the West. Perhaps the elaborate cave network cartoons Rumsfeld showed us?
@LifePsyop For instance, when the US government claimed it had no prior warning of Pearl Harbor. Years later people find out that it did, in fact, have warning of events that could have led the US government to at least think something was about to happen. Or Project Azorian which was ousted by a reported (the same who discovered the My Lai Massacre) or the government's denial of Area 51.
You mean beyond the 9/11 bombings and the 1998 embassy bombings? Or are those lies to?
@RojOdio 9/11 is the day that several buildings were destroyed. Every other narrative attached to that day is someone saying "Trust me." The official story about who was behind it is a completely unproven conspiracy theory.
So how did people find out about the Pearl Harbor, Project Azorian, or Area 51 cover-ups? How did this information come into the public light?
@LifePsyop That's true, 9/11 is an unproven conspiracy theory... in that the conspiracy theorists that deny it happened have yet to show enough evidence that the official story doesn't add up. The default position isn't "it's a lie", especially when no one has shown enough reason to believe it's a lie.
Pearl Harbor-the Navy reported firing on Japanese submarines before the attack. Area 51-the government finally gave up the info. Azorian - reported found out himself via reporting.
@RojOdio You don't understand. The official story is an unproven conspiracy theory. You've equated it with truth through propaganda. It's the story you heard repeated on the news every day, so it became a truth to you.
@LifePsyop So when military forces capture members of terrorist groups and find plots for terrorist bombings that's also just part of the lie? The government makes a claim, and then goes out to find proof of it (in this case, plans to attack America, or whatever), if it doesn't then independant groups start asking questions (the whole WMD debacle a while ago is an example).
This is, of course, getting really off topic to the original argumetns about nuclear weapons.
@RojOdio They give people like you Watergate Scandals to make you believe there are official watchdogs looking out for truth. Also, it might interest you to know that at least 70% of the global media is owned by 7 Corporations. If you REALLY believe you are getting more than one side of the story concerning world events, you are quite deluded. I tried. have fun.
@RojOdio Great, in the case of Pearl Harbor and Area 51, the government that lied to you, gave you your truth. That's a fantastic way to draw conclusions about the world.
@LifePsyop It's actually something not mentioned in conspiracy theories. Most conspiracy theorists like to think that the government is one big monolithic entity, and that it securly has its own people under its thumb to be able to pull off vast nets of lies.
Whereas in reality, sometimes the government says something, and different sources within that government point out that that isn't the entire story, or are wary of the story themselves.
@LifePsyop Depends on what classified or restricted areas you mean. Some of them are eventually opened up to scrutiny by different groups.
Different doctors would take DNA samples from the alleged corpse and either confirm or deny the US government's statemen that they killed Osama Bin Laden. AFAIK, this is what occured. Some of his family identified the body, members of the raid team identified his body, and DNA from the corpse and his family identified the corpse as being him.
@RojOdio Yes, AFAIK, as far as you know. And you don't know at all do you? Assuming Bin Laden is a real identity, did they really find him? Did they kill him? Did they collect his DNA before dumping him out to sea? Tell me how these claims can be independently proven beyond a reasonable doubt. Or you can just concede that it is an act of faith to believe such claims. There's no shame in that you know.
@LifePsyop Of course, when it comes down to it it's the word of the military squad that killed him, the words of whatever experts the government used to get DNA results. Except to me, I acknowledge that there are things that I cannot personally go out and verify myself, (some science experiments, for example, require instruments I'd never be able to get my hands on), except I don't immediately say "Oh, it must be a lie". Also, if he's alive you'd think he'd have spoken up by now.
@LifePsyop Now, morons will then go and equate something like France, to an event that occurred for an instant in history. Take the event of alleged planes hitting the twin towers on 9/11 for instance. Of course I am not going to believe those planes were real in that instant in time based off the incredibly fake looking impact videos, media reports, and ambiguous testimony.
So hopefully that clears up any relativistic fallacies you might have cooked up.
if i wanted to fake some footage I would.. Build a town in real form + film it in colour with lots of detail and manufacture fake lines of trees so they would mimic the model village that its based upon. I would use the same models for ease of comparison with slightly different camera angles and adjoining structures to give the illusion of different "real " buildings. I would then film at different times + colour temperature so exact matching can not occur. I would also reduce the resolution
@awakenlilrabbit So your argument is that the US government made a small miniature village then built a real life sized village to the exact specifications of the miniature for shits and giggles? Why, if the miniature was destroyed, would they even build the real sized town at all?
@RojOdio No argument. If i was to stage something without the help of CGI like they do now every day, i would need to use models + cinema trickery to keep the chimps in line. But sometimes when the chimps are allowed out - they sometimes want to retreat back to their enclosure
@awakenlilrabbit Again, your entire argument is "They build a miniature, then they build a real sized town. They blew up the miniature." Ok.
So why in the hell did they even bother to build the real sized town then? They could have just as easily filmed people around houses that were being built anyway and then made miniatures of that to blow up.
It's hilarious that you simply repeat your argument without bothering to support it at all. If you repeat it enough it's true?
@RojOdio What argument? im theorizing which means i could be wrong. Im not afraid to think my dear boy. What im stating is that IF i was to , this is what i would do. Why would they bother? Well with a billion dollar budget im sure there could have been enough in the coffers for some cheap timber housing and canned goods while the rest could of been pocketed for other nefarious means. What support would you like me to provide? signed affidavits from each scientist
@awakenlilrabbit I suspect that even if I got signed letters from every single person involved in the Manhattan Project and every person involved in nuclear tests and dumped them on your lap you'd believe them. After all, they could be lying to you.
The double story clad house is exactly the same with a slightly different camera angle. The main difference if one is a model and one is a house would be the lack of electrical cabling in the real life images just before the blast. It would seem strange to me that they would build two exact houses with almost same camera angles just with one missing electrical wires on the two storey house
@RojOdio yeah that dwelling, in the footage just before they explode the buildings in colour - "footage declassified test film #55". No telegraph poles with cabling. also the windows are in different alignment it seems on top row of the facade. Is there any clearer footage or is it all the same standard?
@awakenlilrabbit Ok, in the video Declassified U.S. Nuclear Test Film #55 at 9:47 to 9:49 there is a two story house.
In this video from :35-:40 there is also a two story house.
They are two different houses of the same make. The on in Test Film #55 has a car behind it, with no telephone poles in the background, the one in this video has a car to it's side and telephone poles behind it. Therefore, two different houses of the same make.
@awakenlilrabbit BTW, I notice that you seem to think that some of this footage is fake, that miniature models were destroyed to make this video or something.
Why? Why do you believe such a thing if you've seen videos of people building the town and records exist of people building the town? I don't really understand why it's so hard to believe that the US built a few houses and structures to test bombs on them.
@RojOdio no doubt they tested bombs. Question is did they have nuclear bombs at the time or was it a classic war time ploy to deceive the reported enemy. Using fake film would be a great way to create fear for military gain. The houses seem to implode like matchboxes while the camera stays dead still and the quality of footage at explosion is different to the day time coloured film.
@awakenlilrabbit Hiroshima and Nagasaki couldn't have happened without nuclear bombs.
The houses seem to implode like matchboxes because they are wood constructions in the face of tremendous blasts of energy, and the cameras stay still because (as I pointed out before) they are mounted on top of pools rooted firmly into the ground and facing away (think why no camera near the blast zone faces towards the blast-because it'd be destroyed) to protect the camera.
@RojOdio Do you think you can tell the difference between a city that has been carpet bombed vs. a city that has been atom bombed? Or is this another case of you simply believing what you've been told?
@LifePsyop When Little Boy went off over Hiroshima communications with the city suddenly and completely ceased and the survivors all remember the giant blast (which firebombing doens't do) and the Enola Gay has pictures and video of the blast. I'm sure Japan also had reason to fake reports of a giant explosion or a photo of the mushroom cloud taken at Hiroshima.
I'm sure you'll handwave those away as lies or propaganda used by the US government, or something equally silly.
@RojOdio They are all things you've been told/read and believed. I've heard testimony that American POWs in Japan at the time of the nukes, believed it had been a hoax to demoralize America's enemies. Is that true? I don't know.
It is possible the Japanese ruling class saw the benefit in surrender and agreed to go along with an atom bomb hoax to gather public support. These are all matters of military intelligence. You and I are not privy to what the truth is.
@LifePsyop Why would these soldiers know? Why would their ignorance of a top secret project indicate that these weapons didn't exist?
Why, exactly, would the Japanese government need the support of it's people to surrender? The Japanese government at the time cared what it's people thought?
BTW, then you say that these questions have answers in military intelligence, which we can't access. So you make up vague reasons to support your idea and then say the proof is inaccessible. Nice
@RojOdio And again we're back to "videos / photos as proof"... They're not. I'm sorry. Especially when they are analyzed and repeated elements of obvious fakery are found within them. There are some great examples in that "Nuke Lies" documentary that you "laughed" at. Care to point out what was so funny about it?
@LifePsyop Hey, hold on a sec. Did YOU anaylze the videos and photos yourself? Or are you just going by what you read online? Or are you just going by the word of some dude online who claims to be an expert in photography to analyze those images? If so, why do you believe people online rather than a host of government scientists, individual historians, engineers, and eye witnesses from Japan itself?
@RojOdio I don't need anyone's input to see with my own eyes that these are miniature sets depicted in this video. I know that statement is utterly incomprehensible to you... Through a lifetime of brainwashing, you've got it in your head that testimony of government scientists is more reliable than your own observation, when the subject is right out front of your eyes. It's sad.
That's why I drop links to Nuke Lies. To help people that have lost touch with their own senses.
@LifePsyop Nice. Not a single argument against anything I actually said, and instead another placating "Oh, poor brainwashed guy".
I'll ask you the same thing. If you don't accept those videos, photos or records as proof, does that mean you'd only accept nuclear weapons if you saw one detonate with your own two eyes?
@LifePsyop Ok, I'll go through the video and give time stamps.
NUKE LIES - Nuclear Bombs Do Not Exist by Jesse Waugh
1:08 The trees are in "awfully straight lines" because they were planted that way in the Nevada Proving Grounds. "Looks artificial" because they are.
2:03 He states that the fireball looks like a composite to him (no doubt based on his extensive knowledge of nuclear fireballs). Also, the mushroom clouds always follow the initial fireball, fireballs MAKE the cloud
@LifePsyop NUKE LIES - Nuclear Bombs Do Not Exist by Jesse Waugh (cont)
2:36 "These frames were cut together, why?" Because otherwise you'd be zoomed in on the nuclear fireball and wouldn't be able to see it in its entirity.
2:46 "Looks like the Sun to me" No shit, nuclear reactions power the sun. The Sun is a giant nulear reactor in space. Similar responses to all his "It's the Sun again!" comments in the next minutes.
3:35 "They worship the Sun afterall, Lucifer" What the fuck?
What's his point here? Does he expect Hiroshima to be green and glowing? Only structures closer to the actual fireball were incinerated, elsewhere the structures were flattened by shockwave.
5:33 "Wasn't strong enough to even shake the camera"
Is the camera on a flimsy Radioshack tripod or something? It can't possibly be on a reinforced steel tower? These aren't Kodak disposable cameras here FFS.
@RojOdio hey man i understand that the buildings are made from wood. But you have to have some pretty serious post const, i mean posts embedded into the ground not to get any movement. it pulversied a whole city yet didnt even sway a steel post fixed on one end into a conc footing? I still dont buy it. Its same on the nasa missions. The video evidence on analysis does not stack up. Its a fake world, and visual fakery has and will be the greatest weapon.
@awakenlilrabbit Do you HONESTLY think that building a post so that it's embedded into the ground is such a technological hurdle? The reason why posts embedded into the ground aren't being utterly destroyed is probaly because the house has a greater surface area facing the blast, and therefore absorbs more of the shock/heat.
Again, I even pointed out to you scenes in these videos were shockwaves tip over jeeps yet don't flatten nearby posts in the SAME shot.
@awakenlilrabbit If you mean why one house has telephone type things near it while another doesn't, that's because when Survival Town was built they didn't exactly build it like a real life town. They specifically built random types of houses, bridges that lead to nowhere, train tracks that aren't connected, large concrete cubicles with nothing in them, etc. They wanted as many possible building "types" in the blast to get as much data as possible.
@awakenlilrabbit Actually, thinking about it a bit more, I don't think this is the MET test, since I know MET was done during the day time. This is probably another test (might not even be Operation Teapot) and they used an abandoned town, or that particular building (I assume the one at :15 seconds) isn't a house, it looks like a shed or warehouse thing to me.
@awakenlilrabbit Or, just maybe, the cameras aren't just normal cameras set up on flimsy tri-pods but set up in protected areas, or atop steel support struts. It's not like all buildings or objects are flattened or kicked up and smashed. You can see this in some of the videos themselves (Operation Teapot Military Effects Studies (1954) video at exactly 12:25), the jeeps are smacked by the wave but nearby posts stay in their spot.
@LifePsyop That's a strawman, since that's not at all the logic I used. My line of reasoning is a) there is documentation that the town was built b) there are pictures of people standing next to the houses c) there are videos, (found here on Youtube no less) of people building the houses and structures. Hence, those are real sized houses being destroyed, not miniatures.
Thank you for telling me about Nuke Lies. Every second I read it I laugh more and more.
@LifePsyop Hey it's ok, if you want to believe insane conspiracy theories that have no backing in reality whatsoever go ahead. I'll stay over here in the realm of people who aren't batshit insane.
Of course, I'm sure you'll still think "Oh man, blind man can't see, he must be a sheeple", and that's fine too. Continue to tell yourself that everyone but you is blind to some lame truth some guy made up and that you are part of some cool in-crowd that knows THE TRUTH!
What's all that stuff that moves really slowly at 0:17 and 0:27 ? I always wondered why everything just levitates for a second before it gets obliterated by the blast.
@Zimplony I could be wrong about this, but I THINK it's the ambient heat incinerating everything. Basically, the fireball is so hot that it's literally cooking everything nearby, so wood starts burning, paint on buildings and cars flash evaporates and the ground starts steaming. Then the blastwave hits.
Again, I could be wrong. But since everything rises at once it seems to be the behaviour of hotter gasses (you know, hot air rises and such). At :30 one side of the house is burned.
@Zimplony Ok, I looked up a bit more and got this. This video is showing Operation Teacup, specifically the MET detonation. MET detonated a bomb with a yield of 22 kilotons. According to The Effects of Nuclear Weapons, Third Edition by Samuel Glasstone and Philip J. Dolan the nuclear bomb Little Boy (detonated over Hiroshima) heated objects to 3,270 F at .6 miles out and heated surfaces to 7,000 F closer. So yeah, that's incinerated surface material coming of those buildings.
@Zimplony In Hiroshima and Nagasaki (which I hope will never be repeated again) people closer to the actual fireball were entirely vaporized in an instant.
@juehs34 They were set in concrete posts. They were also destroyed by the radiation. This is all OLD footage, the current weapons were have leave nothing this close to the blast.
in the bible they talk about how god promised not to flood the eatrh again but instead the world will catch on fire.... is this what they were talikng about? nuclear war catching the world on fire
Oh... so it looks like you're only on fire for like 10 seconds before you get your neck snaps or you get ripped apart by the shockwave.... What's everyone so freaked out about then?
@ambush77 This is a great example of how propaganda and group-think outweighs people's ability to use their own observation. The scenes in this video are so obviously miniature stage sets, yet the implications are too troublesome to accept. It really shows how helpless people are to think outside of the mainstream view of history and current events.
@LifePsyop You mean the observational skills that allowed me to see the video in the related video links that shows people building the Survival Town test site?
in the bible of the book of revelations, it talks about the four horsemen of the apocalypse. each one bring a different type of miserable thing to this world. the white horse as many of you may have seen represnts death.
when i saw the first house, with a bit of smoke comming out of it, i thought Nuclar bombs were useless. then i found uot that it was just the heatwave....
I think I would not be able to live with myself I knew me the creator of something so evil that's capable of killing thousands of people in a second...
It seems to me that self destruction is human nature... and people think that 2012 will be the end of the world... wake up people, we are ending the world, it is not a stupid apocalyptic prophecy, it is ourselves!!! time to think again and try to change what's to come since we can change what we have already done!!!
@compooky I agree with first part and I also say that all the time on how we can kill everyone with the push of a button. Did you know that with all our nukes today we can blow up the 12 times?
I live in California still. Back in the 50's in the early morning just before sunrise I could see the flash of the A-bomb test . About a half an hour later I could hear the boom. Many times over the years.
the house is normal....BOOOOOOOM......then the house catches on fire.... then it gets OWNED by a shockwave
Sk8tr32111 4 days ago
FUS RO DAH
lienliu040999 4 days ago
I would then make confidential the high resolution files as top secret and then lose any non approved .remaining copies. If it was not really atomic i would add some radiocative elements to the bomb to give the illusion of Atomic bomb technology. In the end it either was developed or it wasnt, but from looking at this footage - it raises many questions + with 9/11 _ moon landings hoaxs confirmed - the "free world" has been duped time and time again. and the chimps just cant seem to get a grip.
awakenlilrabbit 6 days ago
@awakenlilrabbit Woah, 9/11 and the Moon Hoax was confirmed? I wasn't aware that reality itself was being warped by conspiracy theorists to confirm their ridiculous theories.
By the way, I love conspiracy theorists and their attitudes. "I know the truth, everyone ELSE in the world is just a stupid sheep being led by their corporate masters EXCEPT ME!"
RojOdio 6 days ago
@RojOdio I am fallible like the next chimp. Only thing is in my mind now I know i was Lied to my whole life unlike some who still worship at the feet of their masters. And this whole Duality belief like your on some other team because you see something different is a strange concept and all its doing is dividing by labelling those of a diff mindset. Its a hard fall when you realise your whole life learning is false so i dont blame you for not wanting the construct to collapse
awakenlilrabbit 6 days ago
@awakenlilrabbit Ah yes, the classic "Oh, I have no actual evidence to support any of my insane ramblings, so I'll just call anyone who doesn't agree with me a blind moron who can't see the TRUTH!"
Hey, if you yourself realize you can be misled, how do you know that the Moon Landing hoaxers, 9/11 conspiracy nuts, and nuclear weapons deniers are the ones that are telling the truth, and not the ones that are lying? After all, they make money selling their arguments.
RojOdio 6 days ago
@RojOdio No evidence to support claims? I have a mind and eyes that are not fooled by pretty images and dramatic audio. Im not in some Hoax, Nuts or Deniers group hehe.You act Like we have a weekly AA meetings. In fact i would say i would have little in common otherwise than being able to see past the smoke and mirrors. heaven forbid the thought of an opposing set of views. Eat your porridge my boy. Its going to get real bumpy....
awakenlilrabbit 6 days ago
@awakenlilrabbit Hey, I got a question for you. You obviously don't believe that photos, videos, scientific reports and eye witness testimonies are proof of the existence of an event or objects.
So, my question to you is, how do you know Antartica exists? How do you know the Moon is really a celestial object and not a 2D image on the canopy of the Earth? You've never seen electrols with your own eyes, so how do you think your computer is functioning?
RojOdio 6 days ago
@RojOdio good point. Do you beleive in God? which god if so?
awakenlilrabbit 6 days ago
@awakenlilrabbit No I don't.
BTW, in case you aren't catching on, this is showing the ridiculousness of the whole "photos and videos can be faked" argument.
I mean, how do you even know the universe exists when you close your eyes, going by your line of reasoning?
In fact, I doubt you exist. I have never seen you at all, and these comments can easily be faked by someone else. Therefore, you don't exist.
RojOdio 6 days ago
@RojOdio In your childish mind, im not catching on..... to what is written everywhere documented and repeated like clockwork over and over. How can i not catch on to that repetitive drumming. Thats not hard to fathom, boy. The hard part is to pull it apart to see if it has some truth to it or not - then keep an open mind which i dont think your understanding to what im explaining to you from my current viewpoint. The small mind will always fall for proof given to them signed + sealed..
awakenlilrabbit 6 days ago
@awakenlilrabbit Avoiding the question. So I'll repeat it again:
If you don't accept nuclear weapons and the validity of nuclear test footage based on the fact that videos and photos can be faked or tricked, how would you accept them?
Would you require personal interaction at these sites?
And if you require personal evidence of nuclear reactions, do you or don't you require personal evidence of everything else in existance?
RojOdio 6 days ago
@RojOdio These events all occur. BUT They never happen like the golden book your reading from. What you are watching are holy-wood films passed of as "evidence" and after a lifetime of watching them you are now their protector to the illusion. The govt lies just like every corportation. time + time again. Why does it bother you that somone else actually questions the "official story" of events? does it affect your life? or do you need to answer the questions to re affirm your stance?
awakenlilrabbit 6 days ago
@awakenlilrabbit
"These events all occur".
Which events are these?
And again, how do you know about Operation Highjump? Where you there?
RojOdio 6 days ago
@RojOdio I know antractica exists. i also know there is a fucking big opening in the middle of it which you cant get photos of with natural terrain and flowing water - as per operation high jump. + has it ever been explored? Maybe. Will we ever know? probably not. As its classified. The most interesting knowledge is hidden while the vile of weapons and fear pervades the psyche. Fear based trauma seems to win out all the time
awakenlilrabbit 6 days ago
@awakenlilrabbit And you know Operation Highjump occured because why? You were there, I mean personally there? If you accept Operation Highjump (or anything really) even though you weren't there, then why not accept nuclear weapons?
You've never seen electrons, so how is your computer working?
RojOdio 6 days ago
@RojOdio Yawn. Who never said there was no bomb testing or 9/11 attacks. The question always remains to the common chimp. Who and what did it and why did they do it + what are the after effects from these incidents. If you can not see past your pronounced ridge then how can we share a banana? hmm chimpy
awakenlilrabbit 6 days ago
@awakenlilrabbit Changing the goal posts. Never, once, did you pose these questions. Your entire line of argument (if it can be called that) was that the nuclear footage you see in the video above is faked.
This is also avoiding the question of what it'd take for you to believe the above images are not fake.
RojOdio 6 days ago
@RojOdio I think you are right.. You do not exist. You are a robot repeating the same questions and stories in your computer mind. I would have more luck with a primate. Least he feels + can eat bananas with me... quack.
awakenlilrabbit 6 days ago
@awakenlilrabbit It's funny that you can't answer questions about your basic reasoning.
You don't accept nuclear test footage because it could be fake.
Therefore, I assume (since you can't be bothered to lay out any of your lines of reasoning) you don't accept anything unless you yourself see it.
Yet you then turn around and accept Antartica and Operation Highjump exist, even though you have not been there personally and rely on photos and reports of it's existence.
RojOdio 6 days ago
@awakenlilrabbit In fact, if you don't accept photos/videos/reports, how do you know that I exist?
RojOdio 6 days ago
@RojOdio It's cliche, but it's true, unfortunately. You are sheep being completely duped and led by your intellectual masters.
And No, we haven't figured out much about how this world is really run, but we've figured out enough to know about hoaxes and how they are perpetuated through military and media propaganda. I'm sure you are one of those people that still think half the things on the Nightly News is true.
LifePsyop 6 days ago
@LifePsyop So again, you'd only believe things that you see with your own eyes?
RojOdio 6 days ago
@RojOdio I believe what I can see and touch. For all else I use logic. Now some moron will say something like "Well how do you know France exists if you've never seen it with your own eyes?"
Well, the region known as France is a place that anyone can book a plane ticket right now and travel to. Therefore, I would logically say, Yea, France is real, even though I've never been.
LifePsyop 6 days ago
@LifePsyop So, using the same logic, you can't just crack open a history book on the Manhattan Project, read through their work, and conclude that they did, in fact, have nuclear weapons at the time?
RojOdio 6 days ago
@RojOdio I can crack open a book and read about how shape-shifting aliens are running the world which is gathered from 'insider' information. Why should I believe in the insider-ish testimony of the Manhattan Project over shapeshifting aliens? Because they are the honest trustworthy US government? Why exactly do you believe what you read in His-Story books ? Give me one good reason.
LifePsyop 6 days ago
@LifePsyop Because history books are corroberated by various sources of evidence. You don't open a history book and read something that's entirely unsourced and out of the blue, it's based on the work of several independant historians and institutions. It's bizarre to assume they'd all be working towards some conspiracy.
RojOdio 6 days ago
@RojOdio How are the historians independent if they're getting paid or maintaining some title that could be stripped from them? How much "independent" evidence exists in restricted areas or crime scenes controlled 100% by military or law enforcement? Lets use the alleged death of Osama Bin Laden for example. Tell me how a historian would prove that he is dead. Yet every history book will claim it is a truth. Doesn't have to be a conspiracy. It's just going with the social grain.
LifePsyop 6 days ago
@LifePsyop Not all historians are in the employ of government institutions, and some receive private funding from organizations. They also can't suddenly be stripped of their credentials for no reason at all, there'd have to be a reason stated. Also, not all the people who make major discovers are affiliated with any organization, they could be independant people working on their own. There's no possible way to make everyone everywehre follow the same "made up" history.
RojOdio 6 days ago
@RojOdio Like I said, citing the Bin Laden example, none of these historians know the truth of what happened to him, yet every historian will write that he was killed by the Seal raid. This does not require any conspiracy at all. It is simply following a tendency the support the mainstream reporting of the world. They are afraid to write "we don't know if the military is being upfront" because of negative social repercussions. How can you not acknowledge this simple psychology?
LifePsyop 6 days ago
@LifePsyop Why would, for instance, they assume that the military isn't being upfront? I know for instance, that sometimes the government omits and sometimes lies about information, anyone can see that. But it seems to me that conspiracy theorist take that knowledge and then stretch it to "the government lies all the time".
Let's, for example, say Osama wasn't killed as the government reports. He's still alive. What does he gain staying quiet? Doesn't he gain more by speaking out?
RojOdio 5 days ago
@LifePsyop I mean, a line you said earlier "Assuming Bin Laden is a real identity" seems to presuppose that the government is ALREADY lying about the existence of a prominent terrorist leader. How does anyone even hope to convince you "Yes, the US killed bin Laden in exactly the way they reported it" if you can just turn around and say "Well I don't even believe bin Laden exists".
RojOdio 5 days ago
@RojOdio "Sometimes the government omits and lies" Sometimes? Which times? How do you know they are lying here and telling the truth there? Your concept of the world seems to rely much more on faith in official honesty than strong facts and evidence.
And no, I do not believe in the mythical war on terror any more than I believe in dragons. Show me the evidence of this terrorist network that plots against the West. Perhaps the elaborate cave network cartoons Rumsfeld showed us?
LifePsyop 5 days ago
@LifePsyop For instance, when the US government claimed it had no prior warning of Pearl Harbor. Years later people find out that it did, in fact, have warning of events that could have led the US government to at least think something was about to happen. Or Project Azorian which was ousted by a reported (the same who discovered the My Lai Massacre) or the government's denial of Area 51.
You mean beyond the 9/11 bombings and the 1998 embassy bombings? Or are those lies to?
RojOdio 5 days ago
@RojOdio 9/11 is the day that several buildings were destroyed. Every other narrative attached to that day is someone saying "Trust me." The official story about who was behind it is a completely unproven conspiracy theory.
So how did people find out about the Pearl Harbor, Project Azorian, or Area 51 cover-ups? How did this information come into the public light?
LifePsyop 5 days ago
@LifePsyop That's true, 9/11 is an unproven conspiracy theory... in that the conspiracy theorists that deny it happened have yet to show enough evidence that the official story doesn't add up. The default position isn't "it's a lie", especially when no one has shown enough reason to believe it's a lie.
Pearl Harbor-the Navy reported firing on Japanese submarines before the attack. Area 51-the government finally gave up the info. Azorian - reported found out himself via reporting.
RojOdio 5 days ago
@RojOdio You don't understand. The official story is an unproven conspiracy theory. You've equated it with truth through propaganda. It's the story you heard repeated on the news every day, so it became a truth to you.
LifePsyop 5 days ago
@LifePsyop So when military forces capture members of terrorist groups and find plots for terrorist bombings that's also just part of the lie? The government makes a claim, and then goes out to find proof of it (in this case, plans to attack America, or whatever), if it doesn't then independant groups start asking questions (the whole WMD debacle a while ago is an example).
This is, of course, getting really off topic to the original argumetns about nuclear weapons.
RojOdio 5 days ago
@RojOdio They give people like you Watergate Scandals to make you believe there are official watchdogs looking out for truth. Also, it might interest you to know that at least 70% of the global media is owned by 7 Corporations. If you REALLY believe you are getting more than one side of the story concerning world events, you are quite deluded. I tried. have fun.
LifePsyop 5 days ago
@RojOdio Great, in the case of Pearl Harbor and Area 51, the government that lied to you, gave you your truth. That's a fantastic way to draw conclusions about the world.
LifePsyop 5 days ago
@LifePsyop It's actually something not mentioned in conspiracy theories. Most conspiracy theorists like to think that the government is one big monolithic entity, and that it securly has its own people under its thumb to be able to pull off vast nets of lies.
Whereas in reality, sometimes the government says something, and different sources within that government point out that that isn't the entire story, or are wary of the story themselves.
RojOdio 5 days ago
@LifePsyop Depends on what classified or restricted areas you mean. Some of them are eventually opened up to scrutiny by different groups.
Different doctors would take DNA samples from the alleged corpse and either confirm or deny the US government's statemen that they killed Osama Bin Laden. AFAIK, this is what occured. Some of his family identified the body, members of the raid team identified his body, and DNA from the corpse and his family identified the corpse as being him.
RojOdio 6 days ago
@RojOdio Yes, AFAIK, as far as you know. And you don't know at all do you? Assuming Bin Laden is a real identity, did they really find him? Did they kill him? Did they collect his DNA before dumping him out to sea? Tell me how these claims can be independently proven beyond a reasonable doubt. Or you can just concede that it is an act of faith to believe such claims. There's no shame in that you know.
LifePsyop 6 days ago
@LifePsyop Of course, when it comes down to it it's the word of the military squad that killed him, the words of whatever experts the government used to get DNA results. Except to me, I acknowledge that there are things that I cannot personally go out and verify myself, (some science experiments, for example, require instruments I'd never be able to get my hands on), except I don't immediately say "Oh, it must be a lie". Also, if he's alive you'd think he'd have spoken up by now.
RojOdio 5 days ago
@LifePsyop Now, morons will then go and equate something like France, to an event that occurred for an instant in history. Take the event of alleged planes hitting the twin towers on 9/11 for instance. Of course I am not going to believe those planes were real in that instant in time based off the incredibly fake looking impact videos, media reports, and ambiguous testimony.
So hopefully that clears up any relativistic fallacies you might have cooked up.
LifePsyop 6 days ago
if i wanted to fake some footage I would.. Build a town in real form + film it in colour with lots of detail and manufacture fake lines of trees so they would mimic the model village that its based upon. I would use the same models for ease of comparison with slightly different camera angles and adjoining structures to give the illusion of different "real " buildings. I would then film at different times + colour temperature so exact matching can not occur. I would also reduce the resolution
awakenlilrabbit 6 days ago
@awakenlilrabbit So your argument is that the US government made a small miniature village then built a real life sized village to the exact specifications of the miniature for shits and giggles? Why, if the miniature was destroyed, would they even build the real sized town at all?
RojOdio 6 days ago
@RojOdio No argument. If i was to stage something without the help of CGI like they do now every day, i would need to use models + cinema trickery to keep the chimps in line. But sometimes when the chimps are allowed out - they sometimes want to retreat back to their enclosure
awakenlilrabbit 6 days ago
@awakenlilrabbit Again, your entire argument is "They build a miniature, then they build a real sized town. They blew up the miniature." Ok.
So why in the hell did they even bother to build the real sized town then? They could have just as easily filmed people around houses that were being built anyway and then made miniatures of that to blow up.
It's hilarious that you simply repeat your argument without bothering to support it at all. If you repeat it enough it's true?
RojOdio 6 days ago
@RojOdio What argument? im theorizing which means i could be wrong. Im not afraid to think my dear boy. What im stating is that IF i was to , this is what i would do. Why would they bother? Well with a billion dollar budget im sure there could have been enough in the coffers for some cheap timber housing and canned goods while the rest could of been pocketed for other nefarious means. What support would you like me to provide? signed affidavits from each scientist
awakenlilrabbit 6 days ago
@awakenlilrabbit I suspect that even if I got signed letters from every single person involved in the Manhattan Project and every person involved in nuclear tests and dumped them on your lap you'd believe them. After all, they could be lying to you.
RojOdio 6 days ago
0:44 Oh shit a white horse with wings O_O
wawacco 6 days ago 2
The double story clad house is exactly the same with a slightly different camera angle. The main difference if one is a model and one is a house would be the lack of electrical cabling in the real life images just before the blast. It would seem strange to me that they would build two exact houses with almost same camera angles just with one missing electrical wires on the two storey house
awakenlilrabbit 1 week ago
@awakenlilrabbit ? You mean the house at :35 to :40? It's one shot, with one camera angle. Or what are you talking about?
RojOdio 6 days ago
@RojOdio yeah that dwelling, in the footage just before they explode the buildings in colour - "footage declassified test film #55". No telegraph poles with cabling. also the windows are in different alignment it seems on top row of the facade. Is there any clearer footage or is it all the same standard?
awakenlilrabbit 6 days ago
@awakenlilrabbit Ok, in the video Declassified U.S. Nuclear Test Film #55 at 9:47 to 9:49 there is a two story house.
In this video from :35-:40 there is also a two story house.
They are two different houses of the same make. The on in Test Film #55 has a car behind it, with no telephone poles in the background, the one in this video has a car to it's side and telephone poles behind it. Therefore, two different houses of the same make.
RojOdio 6 days ago
@awakenlilrabbit BTW, I notice that you seem to think that some of this footage is fake, that miniature models were destroyed to make this video or something.
Why? Why do you believe such a thing if you've seen videos of people building the town and records exist of people building the town? I don't really understand why it's so hard to believe that the US built a few houses and structures to test bombs on them.
RojOdio 6 days ago
@RojOdio no doubt they tested bombs. Question is did they have nuclear bombs at the time or was it a classic war time ploy to deceive the reported enemy. Using fake film would be a great way to create fear for military gain. The houses seem to implode like matchboxes while the camera stays dead still and the quality of footage at explosion is different to the day time coloured film.
awakenlilrabbit 6 days ago
@awakenlilrabbit Hiroshima and Nagasaki couldn't have happened without nuclear bombs.
The houses seem to implode like matchboxes because they are wood constructions in the face of tremendous blasts of energy, and the cameras stay still because (as I pointed out before) they are mounted on top of pools rooted firmly into the ground and facing away (think why no camera near the blast zone faces towards the blast-because it'd be destroyed) to protect the camera.
RojOdio 6 days ago
@RojOdio Do you think you can tell the difference between a city that has been carpet bombed vs. a city that has been atom bombed? Or is this another case of you simply believing what you've been told?
LifePsyop 6 days ago
@LifePsyop When Little Boy went off over Hiroshima communications with the city suddenly and completely ceased and the survivors all remember the giant blast (which firebombing doens't do) and the Enola Gay has pictures and video of the blast. I'm sure Japan also had reason to fake reports of a giant explosion or a photo of the mushroom cloud taken at Hiroshima.
I'm sure you'll handwave those away as lies or propaganda used by the US government, or something equally silly.
RojOdio 6 days ago
@RojOdio They are all things you've been told/read and believed. I've heard testimony that American POWs in Japan at the time of the nukes, believed it had been a hoax to demoralize America's enemies. Is that true? I don't know.
It is possible the Japanese ruling class saw the benefit in surrender and agreed to go along with an atom bomb hoax to gather public support. These are all matters of military intelligence. You and I are not privy to what the truth is.
LifePsyop 6 days ago
@LifePsyop Why would these soldiers know? Why would their ignorance of a top secret project indicate that these weapons didn't exist?
Why, exactly, would the Japanese government need the support of it's people to surrender? The Japanese government at the time cared what it's people thought?
BTW, then you say that these questions have answers in military intelligence, which we can't access. So you make up vague reasons to support your idea and then say the proof is inaccessible. Nice
RojOdio 6 days ago
@RojOdio And again we're back to "videos / photos as proof"... They're not. I'm sorry. Especially when they are analyzed and repeated elements of obvious fakery are found within them. There are some great examples in that "Nuke Lies" documentary that you "laughed" at. Care to point out what was so funny about it?
LifePsyop 6 days ago
@LifePsyop Hey, hold on a sec. Did YOU anaylze the videos and photos yourself? Or are you just going by what you read online? Or are you just going by the word of some dude online who claims to be an expert in photography to analyze those images? If so, why do you believe people online rather than a host of government scientists, individual historians, engineers, and eye witnesses from Japan itself?
RojOdio 6 days ago
@RojOdio I don't need anyone's input to see with my own eyes that these are miniature sets depicted in this video. I know that statement is utterly incomprehensible to you... Through a lifetime of brainwashing, you've got it in your head that testimony of government scientists is more reliable than your own observation, when the subject is right out front of your eyes. It's sad.
That's why I drop links to Nuke Lies. To help people that have lost touch with their own senses.
LifePsyop 6 days ago
@LifePsyop Nice. Not a single argument against anything I actually said, and instead another placating "Oh, poor brainwashed guy".
I'll ask you the same thing. If you don't accept those videos, photos or records as proof, does that mean you'd only accept nuclear weapons if you saw one detonate with your own two eyes?
RojOdio 6 days ago
@LifePsyop Ok, I'll go through the video and give time stamps.
NUKE LIES - Nuclear Bombs Do Not Exist by Jesse Waugh
1:08 The trees are in "awfully straight lines" because they were planted that way in the Nevada Proving Grounds. "Looks artificial" because they are.
2:03 He states that the fireball looks like a composite to him (no doubt based on his extensive knowledge of nuclear fireballs). Also, the mushroom clouds always follow the initial fireball, fireballs MAKE the cloud
RojOdio 6 days ago
@LifePsyop NUKE LIES - Nuclear Bombs Do Not Exist by Jesse Waugh (cont)
2:36 "These frames were cut together, why?" Because otherwise you'd be zoomed in on the nuclear fireball and wouldn't be able to see it in its entirity.
2:46 "Looks like the Sun to me" No shit, nuclear reactions power the sun. The Sun is a giant nulear reactor in space. Similar responses to all his "It's the Sun again!" comments in the next minutes.
3:35 "They worship the Sun afterall, Lucifer" What the fuck?
RojOdio 6 days ago
@LifePsyop
4:37 "But it looks like it's been carpet bombed"
What's his point here? Does he expect Hiroshima to be green and glowing? Only structures closer to the actual fireball were incinerated, elsewhere the structures were flattened by shockwave.
5:33 "Wasn't strong enough to even shake the camera"
Is the camera on a flimsy Radioshack tripod or something? It can't possibly be on a reinforced steel tower? These aren't Kodak disposable cameras here FFS.
RojOdio 6 days ago
@LifePsyop
6:08 "This building seems to blow up from the inside"
That's a tent, it's combusting due to the insane heat released by the nuclear detonation.
6:30 "Watch the two guys behind the glass, who's filming them?"
Oh shit, I didn't realize cameras can't be set on automatic, and that all cameras REQUIRE a camera man to even function.
7:04 "Why don't they call them nuclear bombs anymore"
??? They still are.
RojOdio 6 days ago
@RojOdio hey man i understand that the buildings are made from wood. But you have to have some pretty serious post const, i mean posts embedded into the ground not to get any movement. it pulversied a whole city yet didnt even sway a steel post fixed on one end into a conc footing? I still dont buy it. Its same on the nasa missions. The video evidence on analysis does not stack up. Its a fake world, and visual fakery has and will be the greatest weapon.
awakenlilrabbit 6 days ago
@awakenlilrabbit Do you HONESTLY think that building a post so that it's embedded into the ground is such a technological hurdle? The reason why posts embedded into the ground aren't being utterly destroyed is probaly because the house has a greater surface area facing the blast, and therefore absorbs more of the shock/heat.
Again, I even pointed out to you scenes in these videos were shockwaves tip over jeeps yet don't flatten nearby posts in the SAME shot.
RojOdio 6 days ago
One view has electrical posts +one does not, how many of one house type were there??/ or was one model built by mistake to wrong detail?
awakenlilrabbit 1 week ago
@awakenlilrabbit If you mean why one house has telephone type things near it while another doesn't, that's because when Survival Town was built they didn't exactly build it like a real life town. They specifically built random types of houses, bridges that lead to nowhere, train tracks that aren't connected, large concrete cubicles with nothing in them, etc. They wanted as many possible building "types" in the blast to get as much data as possible.
RojOdio 1 week ago
@awakenlilrabbit Actually, thinking about it a bit more, I don't think this is the MET test, since I know MET was done during the day time. This is probably another test (might not even be Operation Teapot) and they used an abandoned town, or that particular building (I assume the one at :15 seconds) isn't a house, it looks like a shed or warehouse thing to me.
RojOdio 1 week ago
Music: Michael Nyman Orchestra - Vipo Passage (instrumental)
sendow01 1 week ago
they planted trees in rows on the real site to mimic the model set + changing the image to sepia helps with the illusion
awakenlilrabbit 1 week ago
camera doesnt even budge thats one hell of a tripod while a building turns to dust
awakenlilrabbit 1 week ago
@awakenlilrabbit Or, just maybe, the cameras aren't just normal cameras set up on flimsy tri-pods but set up in protected areas, or atop steel support struts. It's not like all buildings or objects are flattened or kicked up and smashed. You can see this in some of the videos themselves (Operation Teapot Military Effects Studies (1954) video at exactly 12:25), the jeeps are smacked by the wave but nearby posts stay in their spot.
RojOdio 1 week ago
@RojOdio good point, i watched the vid. will keep watching
awakenlilrabbit 1 week ago
@awakenlilrabbit BTW, sorry for the snarky tone, it was unnecessary towards you.
RojOdio 1 week ago
@RojOdio i dont mind - its just all diff points of view - I know when a point has been proven
awakenlilrabbit 1 week ago
fake world
awakenlilrabbit 1 week ago
@LifePsyop That's a strawman, since that's not at all the logic I used. My line of reasoning is a) there is documentation that the town was built b) there are pictures of people standing next to the houses c) there are videos, (found here on Youtube no less) of people building the houses and structures. Hence, those are real sized houses being destroyed, not miniatures.
Thank you for telling me about Nuke Lies. Every second I read it I laugh more and more.
RojOdio 1 week ago
@RojOdio Your very welcome, idiot that can't use his own eyes. You'd probably believe Jurassic Park was real if the military told you so.
LifePsyop 1 week ago
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RojOdio 1 week ago
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@LifePsyop Hey it's ok, if you want to believe insane conspiracy theories that have no backing in reality whatsoever go ahead. I'll stay over here in the realm of people who aren't batshit insane.
Of course, I'm sure you'll still think "Oh man, blind man can't see, he must be a sheeple", and that's fine too. Continue to tell yourself that everyone but you is blind to some lame truth some guy made up and that you are part of some cool in-crowd that knows THE TRUTH!
RojOdio 1 week ago
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RojOdio 1 week ago
This happened 50 some years ago idiots
bigbrucla 2 weeks ago
watch 0:45
lokogre1 2 weeks ago
What's all that stuff that moves really slowly at 0:17 and 0:27 ? I always wondered why everything just levitates for a second before it gets obliterated by the blast.
Zimplony 2 weeks ago
@Zimplony I could be wrong about this, but I THINK it's the ambient heat incinerating everything. Basically, the fireball is so hot that it's literally cooking everything nearby, so wood starts burning, paint on buildings and cars flash evaporates and the ground starts steaming. Then the blastwave hits.
Again, I could be wrong. But since everything rises at once it seems to be the behaviour of hotter gasses (you know, hot air rises and such). At :30 one side of the house is burned.
RojOdio 1 week ago
@Zimplony Ok, I looked up a bit more and got this. This video is showing Operation Teacup, specifically the MET detonation. MET detonated a bomb with a yield of 22 kilotons. According to The Effects of Nuclear Weapons, Third Edition by Samuel Glasstone and Philip J. Dolan the nuclear bomb Little Boy (detonated over Hiroshima) heated objects to 3,270 F at .6 miles out and heated surfaces to 7,000 F closer. So yeah, that's incinerated surface material coming of those buildings.
RojOdio 1 week ago
@RojOdio Operation teapot*. Thanks for the info btw, made my search much easier. :)
cnaizhen 1 week ago
@cnaizhen Oh yeah, Operation Teapot. For some reason I wrote it as Teacup. :P
RojOdio 1 week ago
@RojOdio Cheers for the info. It's amazing that we have created something with the raw power to simply vaporise the very paint of buildings.
Zimplony 1 week ago
@Zimplony In Hiroshima and Nagasaki (which I hope will never be repeated again) people closer to the actual fireball were entirely vaporized in an instant.
RojOdio 1 week ago
I'm calling fake on this one.
evil001987 2 weeks ago
I used to absorb radiation, but then i took a cancer to the brain.
rishabisgood 2 weeks ago
I like how they made reference to the four horseman of the apocolypse in the smoke that comes off of the wire at 47 seconds!!!
bblake12341 2 weeks ago
Too many retarded skyrim references in the comments
RinIsKawaii 3 weeks ago
pegusus 0___0
randomacountboy 4 weeks ago
FUS RO DAH!!!!!!!!!!!!
PaisGreenapple3 4 weeks ago
Dovahkiin was here...
vinther5 1 month ago
They are miniature sets, people... If you can't see that.. Wow... Don't know what to tell you.
LifePsyop 1 month ago
FUS RO DAH
AHW214 1 month ago
Yo WTF was dat a white horse?? Aww man shits real out here
xa7ier 1 month ago
well... the cameraman had balls, which after his death are known as mars and Neptune
mwaqasnawaz 1 month ago
Am i the only one that saw a horse form in that cloud at 0:47??
bdubbsable 1 month ago
@bdubbsable yeah saw that too the white horseman
75DIGIMON 1 month ago
Can someone explain why there is dust and stuff being lifted from the floor BEFORE the shockwave hits?
Razura13 1 month ago
@Razura13 the radiation turns the all the solids into a gas cuz its would be very hot
17stricklandb6073 1 month ago
Can't be healthy to be even remotely adjacent to one of those blasts : /
knigthfigth 1 month ago
Meanwhile 2 miles away indiana jones climbs of from a fridge
176304ful 1 month ago
music went really well haha i liked this video!
rakayum 1 month ago
I hope this does not become a reality.:-(
nikolisdir 1 month ago
@nikolisdir this alrdy happened loly it is reality :D
(yeah yeah i know what you was aiming at... just you said it stupidly :D)
norokelt 1 month ago
@nikolisdir it did, in hiroshima and nagasaki you illiterate fuck.
zook115 1 month ago
Does any one know the name of this music?
Daedalus94 1 month ago
@Daedalus94 Pretty sure it's Vigo Passage (Instrumental). Says so on the side there, under the dislike bar.
RojOdio 1 month ago
HS! Tht is scary! How is the camera still in place?
juehs34 1 month ago
@juehs34 They were set in concrete posts. They were also destroyed by the radiation. This is all OLD footage, the current weapons were have leave nothing this close to the blast.
GunBroker100 1 month ago
in the bible they talk about how god promised not to flood the eatrh again but instead the world will catch on fire.... is this what they were talikng about? nuclear war catching the world on fire
MrZipperfish 1 month ago
its so freaky watching the dust being pushed out at at super-sonic speeds then being sucked back in cuz the vacuum created
coolcarman555 1 month ago
I love how it catches fire THE gets blown apart. Damn humans, you scary.
psikiguy7 1 month ago
Oh... so it looks like you're only on fire for like 10 seconds before you get your neck snaps or you get ripped apart by the shockwave.... What's everyone so freaked out about then?
MEATYOKERRable 1 month ago
the biggest question...how the !@#$ is the camera still there?
Pingwin180 1 month ago 21
@Pingwin180 It's probably far away, just zoomed in.
themixedarts 1 month ago
@Pingwin180
easy it's a set//this stuff is not real...it's small miniature model..
ambush77 1 month ago
@ambush77 This is a great example of how propaganda and group-think outweighs people's ability to use their own observation. The scenes in this video are so obviously miniature stage sets, yet the implications are too troublesome to accept. It really shows how helpless people are to think outside of the mainstream view of history and current events.
LifePsyop 2 weeks ago
@LifePsyop Why do you say it's minitures? It's an actual test town they built specifically to test the effects of nuclear weapons on buildings.
RojOdio 1 week ago
@RojOdio You should try using your own observational skills instead of accepting what other people tell you.
Just look at it. The level of granular detail in the structures and environment. It's obviously a miniature set.
If it was a real set, then it would look real, and numerous people would not be calling it fake.
LifePsyop 1 week ago
@LifePsyop You mean the observational skills that allowed me to see the video in the related video links that shows people building the Survival Town test site?
RojOdio 1 week ago
@Jorganstan WHITE POWER!!! lol just kidding
NeedlesOfSorrow 1 month ago
Caballos!
daddyjankie 1 month ago
in the bible of the book of revelations, it talks about the four horsemen of the apocalypse. each one bring a different type of miserable thing to this world. the white horse as many of you may have seen represnts death.
Jorganstan 1 month ago
@Jorganstan Pale/green horse represents death. White horse represents conquest.
guitarist347 1 month ago
I looked, and there before me was a pale horse! Its rider was named Death, and Hades was following close behind him-Bible
2550505 1 month ago
what comes off the structures before it explodes?
suziki97 2 months ago
CHUCK NORRIS FARTED WHEN HE WAS ON VACATION!!!!
happypanda598 2 months ago
I want those sunglasses..... NO..... NUKEGLASSES!
Thunderbird457 2 months ago
Holy freakin shit :O
justinposable 2 months ago
This is what happens when god farts
textred13 2 months ago
scary music
samosamo32 2 months ago 19
WTF BOOM footage :D
TheKamichicken 2 months ago
when i saw the first house, with a bit of smoke comming out of it, i thought Nuclar bombs were useless. then i found uot that it was just the heatwave....
Nissmo3 2 months ago
Chuck Norris' wins, FATALITY!
nevajane57 2 months ago
I think I would not be able to live with myself I knew me the creator of something so evil that's capable of killing thousands of people in a second...
It seems to me that self destruction is human nature... and people think that 2012 will be the end of the world... wake up people, we are ending the world, it is not a stupid apocalyptic prophecy, it is ourselves!!! time to think again and try to change what's to come since we can change what we have already done!!!
andavid 2 months ago
@andavid yes, we are like a cancer for the planet.
EwingAmaterasu 2 months ago
@andavid Real problem is Overpopulation. Shit's running out and we're just getting bigger. We are quite affirmitively fucked.
alienhell663 2 months ago
In case of nuclear attack: You're fucked
luckysod04 2 months ago
fucked
DibcornProductions01 2 months ago
paust at 00:41 to 00:43 you will see unicorn
JohnsonJimmy1998 2 months ago
@compooky I agree with first part and I also say that all the time on how we can kill everyone with the push of a button. Did you know that with all our nukes today we can blow up the 12 times?
nukeacat 2 months ago
svjksnvkjnlkvslkbfsdlkjnv :O
ssun8 2 months ago
omfg that shit is scary
rudcalder 2 months ago
at 0:31
We aren't in Kansas no more Toto
GP49PHS 2 months ago
i love how the front of the house begin to vaporizer before it hits
TheRory1637 2 months ago
@TheRory1637 The heat vaporizes the paint almost instantly.
AmX14 2 months ago
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I live in California still. Back in the 50's in the early morning just before sunrise I could see the flash of the A-bomb test . About a half an hour later I could hear the boom. Many times over the years.
captjim007 2 months ago
0:43 a horse/pegasus from smoke :D
silinskas 2 months ago 33
@silinskas Is it Death, the destroyer of worlds, or war?
hassantv100 2 months ago
@silinskas
it really does look like it, so effin creepy
shawnlocke 1 month ago
Excellent music choice. Gives it a creepy vibe
ASunDr 2 months ago
I was NOT LOLing at the video. I was loling at a comment. Please note. The vid is sad.
jsspoppy464 2 months ago
:46 that cloud of dust looks like pegasus lol
elixer412 2 months ago
Unicorn @0:42
nikon1dsmarkIII 2 months ago
0:47 Theres a White Horse formed out of the dust cloud 0_o
AmericanWarfare 2 months ago
@AmericanWarfare
Yea, someone commented on that a couple of days ago...
RATPT0I 2 months ago
OK... Who divided by zero!?
Clint945 2 months ago
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@Clint945 LOL LOL LOL LOL
jsspoppy464 2 months ago