@chewie211171 I read a fan theory that says it was a plan by the Daleks and the Master to (wait for it) to kill the Doctor and get the Master back into a Time Lord body - since both aligned before (Frontier in Space).
Or the writer wanted to crams as many DW references into the TV Movie as possible
For all the mistakes of the 96 tv movie, Paul McGann was actually a really good Doctor, I for one think he is vastly underrated, his work on the audio plays by Big Finnish is fantastic.
@AlmightyPearHater Yes, because when Skaro was destroyed in 'Remembrance of the Daleks', it was only destroyed in THAT time-line. Skaro still existed in the past, other time-lines. That's why Skaro can be visited any time at all. As long as Skaro existed in that time-line.
@AlmightyPearHater Yes, because everyone knows in real life you just can't get rocks into the time vortex, not the real Time Vortex that actually exists, it just doesn't happen does it.? How unrealistic of them....
Im a hardcore Whovian and even I can see that this is crap. Stink would say this stinks. No - you know what? I can make a better Dalek voice than that WITHOUT digitalising it!!!
Yuck, good thing they killed the Gordon Tipple master in 30 seconds, I couldn't cope with an entire movie of that voice, surely they could have got Anthony Ainley.
@eateroftheflame Umm... Anthony Ainley was dead wasn't he? he did the voice in the early video game, Destiny of the Doctors, and he died shortly afterwards didn't he?
Amazing. The 1996 Movie is one of my favourite Doctor Whos, although that may be more down to its slick production values and great cast. Somehow that rises above the confused story it's desperately trying to tell.
I don't think Gordon Tipple would've been at all a bad way to start the film. From here, I imagine an opening TARDIS scene free from McGann's monolog. The strains of Bing Crosby's Swingin on a Star playing on McCoy gramaphone, as he reads H.G. Well's The Time Machine.
that movie was american attempt on stealing the dtwho franchise ,movie conflicts with the series because movie suggested the doctor is half human excluding the donna hybrid
And it was a co-production with the BBC, which wasn't willing or able to fund its own revival at that point in time. I think it's amusing that the TV Movie turned out to be very close in style and tone to the current BBC revival.
The whole idea of The Doctor visiting Skaro to collect The Masters body has always bothered me! Wouldn't The Daleks have just killed him as soon as he showed up?
Even if it was a trap, by The Master, why would The Daleks go along with it instead of just killing him as soon as he showed up? And why would The Doctor fall for it? Surely he'd assume he'd just be killed as soon as he showed up?
"The Act of Master Restitution" coveres this development...one of the many "temporary truces" between The Time Lords and The Daleks that held off the last great Time War for yonkers.
As I said on another video, since Skaro exists, you either go with the novel-canon, or do what I do: place the relative events of the Master's execution before Remembrance of the Daleks. And during Rsurrection of the Daleks, the Daleks had just lost the Movellan war and were a dwindling rag-tag rabble, and in Revelation of the Daleks, the Skaro Daleks did not hold any hostilities towards other races, perhaps since they couldn't risk starting a war and losing it.
I don't know if you will check this video again for an answer, but I heard that during the 8 Doctor's era, there was an uneasy truce between the Time Lords and Daleks. This meant that an execution victim had to have his final wish obeyed killing the Doctor would have been an act of war (a war that became the Time War when the the Daleks discovered the Time Lords had tried to prevent their creation) Not trying to sound like a know-it-all or even saying this is true.
It explains events nicely enough & ties in with what some other people have said but, from the view-point of the people that made this movie, it still doesn't make sense! The events you described must surely have been written to explain away this opening sequence but why would they have come up with it, in the first place? Even if they had known about the Time Lord/Dalek truce before they made the movie, why would they use it on an unsuspecting public without any word of explaination?
I didn't understand about the truce between the Time Lords and Daleks, but that was the reason the Time War began, the Daleks discovered that the Forth Doctor was sent by the Time Lords to avert thier creation and (in effect) got mad.
I never knew why the producers bothered to put the Daleks in this; they sould like the Smurfs. Why was the Master on trial anyway?
chewie211171 1 month ago 2
@chewie211171 I read a fan theory that says it was a plan by the Daleks and the Master to (wait for it) to kill the Doctor and get the Master back into a Time Lord body - since both aligned before (Frontier in Space).
Or the writer wanted to crams as many DW references into the TV Movie as possible
TUNDRAStrt 2 days ago
I like the Daleks sounding more like this. :D
NicholasJSchmidt 1 month ago
why do the daleks sound gash
ismcb4sc 3 months ago
For all the mistakes of the 96 tv movie, Paul McGann was actually a really good Doctor, I for one think he is vastly underrated, his work on the audio plays by Big Finnish is fantastic.
E101ification 4 months ago
Haha, those Daleks
vassatiny 7 months ago
What is up with those eyes
while07 7 months ago
Baaad monkey, dididiooooo
Qsoftblog 11 months ago
Ignoring the godawful Dalek voices, this is faaaaaar better than what we got. It starts of with a bit of a mystery, rather than clunky exposition.
TheSpoonisme 1 year ago
I'm sorry? I can't hear you Master. What did u say? This vid is too damn quiet!
UDWF1 1 year ago
I have this on DVD and the Doctor narrates the opening.
AquariaSpirit 1 year ago
Wow, this has none of the spirit of Dr Who whatsoever :-)
snavenai 1 year ago
Also, i'm just saying, not only is it impossible for Skaro to still be around... And for rocks to be in the vortex. Just sayin'. Again. Lol
AlmightyPearHater 1 year ago
@AlmightyPearHater Yes, because when Skaro was destroyed in 'Remembrance of the Daleks', it was only destroyed in THAT time-line. Skaro still existed in the past, other time-lines. That's why Skaro can be visited any time at all. As long as Skaro existed in that time-line.
DoctorWhoFan64266 1 year ago
@AlmightyPearHater Yes, because everyone knows in real life you just can't get rocks into the time vortex, not the real Time Vortex that actually exists, it just doesn't happen does it.? How unrealistic of them....
E101ification 4 months ago
Im a hardcore Whovian and even I can see that this is crap. Stink would say this stinks. No - you know what? I can make a better Dalek voice than that WITHOUT digitalising it!!!
AlmightyPearHater 1 year ago
@AlmightyPearHater
To be fair, he was likely trying to match the Dalek voices heard in the TV movie. I think he knows what a Dalek sounds like.
MrMovieBrat 2 months ago
Interesting with the 4 beats after 0.45! The master's drum beat....spooky!
freddiezante08 1 year ago
Yuck, good thing they killed the Gordon Tipple master in 30 seconds, I couldn't cope with an entire movie of that voice, surely they could have got Anthony Ainley.
eateroftheflame 1 year ago
@eateroftheflame Umm... Anthony Ainley was dead wasn't he? he did the voice in the early video game, Destiny of the Doctors, and he died shortly afterwards didn't he?
ThayHybrid 1 year ago
@ThayHybrid Ainley didn't die until 2004. The game was in 1997.
sslaxx 1 year ago
@sslaxx Must have been a DVD commentry he did before that then??
ThayHybrid 1 year ago
dude it looks so first grade
alfly222 1 year ago
so shit
alfly222 1 year ago
it sounds like an american impersonating an englishman. and those daleks sound abysmal. the sqeaky daleks they used were better!
DALEK86 1 year ago
WHY DIDN'T THEY JUST KEEP THIS INTRO!?!?!, the Daleks still sound pathetic in the real intro anyways so it wouldn't have mattered :D
StuartTheGamerNerd 1 year ago
I CAN NOT BELIEVE THAT I CAN NOT GET THIS MOVIE HERE IN AMERICA!!!!!
ToyGunEnt 1 year ago
@ToyGunEnt DOWNLOAD IT!!
StuartTheGamerNerd 1 year ago
Amazing. The 1996 Movie is one of my favourite Doctor Whos, although that may be more down to its slick production values and great cast. Somehow that rises above the confused story it's desperately trying to tell.
I don't think Gordon Tipple would've been at all a bad way to start the film. From here, I imagine an opening TARDIS scene free from McGann's monolog. The strains of Bing Crosby's Swingin on a Star playing on McCoy gramaphone, as he reads H.G. Well's The Time Machine.
TemporalOrbit 1 year ago
Well at least now we know a Canadian Master is even worse than an American one.
icemachine79 1 year ago
The muppet/Dalek voice was really funny!
dfarmbrough 1 year ago
booh epic fail o_o
nowhereibelongvip 2 years ago
ROFL! cyberdoody
lucifuge1968 2 years ago
that opening sucks!
CYBERDOODY 2 years ago
that movie was american attempt on stealing the dtwho franchise ,movie conflicts with the series because movie suggested the doctor is half human excluding the donna hybrid
okuma0kuma 2 years ago
It wasn't an attempt to steal Doctor Who, it was an attempt to revive it, although it wasn't a good attempt.
mowingthefrontlawn 2 years ago
And it was a co-production with the BBC, which wasn't willing or able to fund its own revival at that point in time. I think it's amusing that the TV Movie turned out to be very close in style and tone to the current BBC revival.
LeslieChimes 2 years ago
The whole idea of The Doctor visiting Skaro to collect The Masters body has always bothered me! Wouldn't The Daleks have just killed him as soon as he showed up?
Even if it was a trap, by The Master, why would The Daleks go along with it instead of just killing him as soon as he showed up? And why would The Doctor fall for it? Surely he'd assume he'd just be killed as soon as he showed up?
smugglertrev 2 years ago
"The Act of Master Restitution" coveres this development...one of the many "temporary truces" between The Time Lords and The Daleks that held off the last great Time War for yonkers.
HeyArnoldsspleen 2 years ago
So this movie only makes sense to die-hard whovians who kept up to date with the expanded universe?
No wonder it didn't catch on!
smugglertrev 2 years ago
As I said on another video, since Skaro exists, you either go with the novel-canon, or do what I do: place the relative events of the Master's execution before Remembrance of the Daleks. And during Rsurrection of the Daleks, the Daleks had just lost the Movellan war and were a dwindling rag-tag rabble, and in Revelation of the Daleks, the Skaro Daleks did not hold any hostilities towards other races, perhaps since they couldn't risk starting a war and losing it.
SnakeOnAPlane 2 years ago
The revelation daleks would be too busy putting davros on trial to bother with the master
elixaristhedragon 2 years ago
Plus skaro was destroyed by the seventh doctor in rememberance of the daleks
elixaristhedragon 2 years ago
I don't know if you will check this video again for an answer, but I heard that during the 8 Doctor's era, there was an uneasy truce between the Time Lords and Daleks. This meant that an execution victim had to have his final wish obeyed killing the Doctor would have been an act of war (a war that became the Time War when the the Daleks discovered the Time Lords had tried to prevent their creation) Not trying to sound like a know-it-all or even saying this is true.
Jzilla353 2 years ago
It explains events nicely enough & ties in with what some other people have said but, from the view-point of the people that made this movie, it still doesn't make sense! The events you described must surely have been written to explain away this opening sequence but why would they have come up with it, in the first place? Even if they had known about the Time Lord/Dalek truce before they made the movie, why would they use it on an unsuspecting public without any word of explaination?
smugglertrev 2 years ago
I personally think they had no idea what they were doing & just left it up to better writers to explain away their mistakes!
smugglertrev 2 years ago
You are right, it wasn't the smartest move. Thank goodness we are all fans.
Jzilla353 2 years ago
@Jzilla353 Ha! Fair comment!
smugglertrev 2 years ago
@Jzilla353
I didn't understand about the truce between the Time Lords and Daleks, but that was the reason the Time War began, the Daleks discovered that the Forth Doctor was sent by the Time Lords to avert thier creation and (in effect) got mad.
timelaydee 1 year ago
This would've been awful! But nice to see what it could've looked like.
thatenglishkid 2 years ago
Cool video. It suits the mood of the intro very well.
thethunderchild123 3 years ago 2