I have both a jetta mk4 tdi n civic b18 dohc vtec, gotta say I like the jettas comfort way more also considering to tune it but i don't wanna make a smoker lol any suggestions?
egy bmw-ést még megértek.....de egy fosvágent nem...semmi ész érv nem szól mellette,jellegtelen tömeg autó(vagy bódé),szánalmas elavult technika,dieselbe is kell 2-3bar,hogy menjen.....és meg magyarázzák,hogy miért is szar a japó technik,meg gyenge a kasztni stb......szánalom huszár bandérium!
a dieselesek mindig jönnek a nyomatékkal.....hát igen,nyomaték oda kell,ahol nincs fordulat szám! ezúttal a "nyomaték szegény" honda nyert! végül is 300nm-nél az F1 kocsinak sincs több,de mégis kurva jól megy......19000rpm! boci civic 10500rpm! heló szia!
OMG gdybym ja jechał tym VW to ta honda była by na samym koncu ciota jezdzić nie umie. Ja swoim mk4 Honde z 2001 roku łykam aż miło nawet dalsze roczniki. Honda zawsze była i będzie przereklamowanym gównem.
zetor nyomaték tdi vs vti 10000rmp.nyomaték oda kell ahol nincs fordulat! ezúttal a civic nyert! dieselt a szántóföldre benzint az aszfaltra!bocs,"dízelesek"....dobgyatokrá még szenyet.......ha,ha....
@gatillero proud to have 2 hondas,with your golf at the end of the day you have what?a ferrari?porsche?dumbass if is cheap quality why they are the best in quality?so cheaper means worst?keep paying a price of 2 cars for a fucking golf...i've allready owned a vw group car and i tell you one thing: NEVER MORE I'LL BUY A VW,AUDI OR ANY SHIT FROM THAT GROUP...the good germans are bmw and mercedes...
@davviscool but tht would b unfair cus u could get a 2.9 vr6 and put it up against a civic with a k20 engine but it only has to 2.2 litres, so thts unfair
all the super high power diesels are smoky as hell. they all do naturally have head sized turbochargers, but a richer mixture (as diesels always run in lean) makes more power, even a little after the smoke point, and they want all possible power
Much as I love the TDi series I gotta tip my hat to that Civic! Though to be fair, it looks to me like the Golf driver dumped his clutch without enough revs.
das nix hat gewonnen. warum??? hat der 500 ps gehabt? nö hat der 400nm gehabt? nö der hatte ich denke so um die 230ps aber maximal 190nm und kein turbo...und das nix hat gewonnen...seltsame welt oder?
yeah but the golf doesnt sounds at all and smokes like an old train.....and has a turbo and looses.......the civic was no turbo and won......sad isnt it?
@Sythe1g that's why the 1.6 NA stock engine from honda reachs the 230km/h and the stupid 1.9 tdi only reachs 210km/h...bigger engine,turbo aspirated and it still weak against a litle 1.6 NA
@Dinocfs and a well tunned 1.6 will smoke any fucking diesel in this planet...i said stock to stock,the golf would loose even if is the version in 150hp...
@SlipshT stfu riceboy ...ur cheap ass piece of shit honda weighs light like a powerwheel toy car.. thats the only reason why they're fast .. the golf doesnt need to swap motors to be fast
@gatillero why make a swap in a golf?will be shit anyway, wheigth isn't everything,honda is the perfect balance beetwen power/wheigth/durability/chassis/security and a race car driving feell...riceboy is your mother asshole...
@SlipshT wrong. not perfect balance, chassis suck. plus the 1.6 is very pointless to build. the diesel is WAY more durable no doubt with better MPG's too. hondas can be fast for sure. but a 1.6 being faster? and a well tuned stock 1.6l vs a tdi stock doesnt make much sense btw. and that mkIV four door golf i BET is full interior, weights probably twice the honda duz. strip out the golf and i bet it would smoke it... literally
@VcottntailW you don't know nothing about chassis,i had a seat leon same chassis than golf mk4 and it has like shit,always understeer and cornering like a truck...golf mk4 1500kg - honda civic 1120kg stock cars and both with ac,so even if the civic had no interior it will be weigth ~950kg...that golf is not stock
@SlipshT "I had a seat leon... yadayadayada... always understeer and cornering like a truck" You obviously didn't look after your Seat Leon properly and didn't keep ahead of the tyre pressures and tracking. They only understeer when you neglect them, its not the chassis or the weight thats the problem its the owners not keeping them maintained and not knowing how to handle the nose weight. My Leon FR TDI is absolutely fine with me, you are obviously one hell of a crap driver.
@SlipshT lmaoo security ? pleasee anyone can break into a civic in 5 seconds and if your smart yu can swap a vr6 into a gti and it would smoke that v tech...vr6 alone, or do shit to 1.8t golf and have a stronger faster engine, and civic has no power yu can do so little to a golf and it will already have more power then a civic, all dats good about civics is that there light,
@ButterBombMuzik yes security my civic at 200km/h stays firme with no sterring wheel shaking,my ex leon same chassis that golf at 160km/h the steering wheel has like jelly and the car feels like if a bee beats the side the car will roll over, vr6?do you mean a 2.9 l 6 cyl that only outputs 175hp?i smoked one 2 times with my almost stock ek4,only had 4-2-1 headers and remus exhaust...1.8t stronger and faster?a stock b18c outputs 200hp WITHOUT TURBO, vw engines are a joke compared to honda
@SlipshT lol no yu idiot its actually a 1.8 not 1.9 and what do yu mean vw engines are a joke compared to honda do yu see how small a 1.6 engine is, okay yeah its small and has power to push a piece of shit car made of tin lmaoo, buddy volkswagen is real steel and a real engine, v dubs are much heavier then hondas cuz it isnt shitty steel, listen we all like our own cars yu can have fun with your little baby pussy toys lmaoo v-tech.... and your an idiot honestly have yu ever even been a v-dub
@ButterBombMuzik real steel?is that good?idiot...real engine???how much hp can an 1.6l stock vw motor output?105hp???asshole...and i've allready drive vw and i regret it...no fun,no power,no handling and the price :O shit i can buy 2 hondas with the same options...
@SlipshT lmaooo i doubt you drove volkswagen before or you would love it, no power? your fucking stupid kid, only reason you have a honda is cuz you pussies dont have the money to afford a volkswagen, thats why you regret it buddy, and your talking bout handling? volkswagens are more powered steering then a honda, hence why everything on a volkswagen is much more money, go work at mcdonalds and make your money for your honda kid
@ButterBombMuzik i can't affor a vw?do you know the price of a vw comparing to an honda here on switzerland? old civics or crxs with rust and a lot of km are 3 times more expensive than a good condition golf mk3...afford a vw is not a problem to me, i changed cause i didn't like the car i can't get enougth problems from that car, them i buy my civic (2 times more expensive than my seat leon)and i don't regret it and i don't sell it...now i got 2 hondas...
@ButterBombMuzik Peopl talking like VW's are the shhh are sumin' they are a P.O.S and like I said to this other punk that is it all about price not quality. Just because you pay more for a car doesn't make it better. You simple minded ass kids on here kill with that bullshhh. So you like VW's and they cost more than a Honda but at the end of the day who is still riding? Me because I KNOW people who had VW's and Audi's they ALL said they were NOT good cars. So slap yourself really hard.
@gradyboi2 When I was choosing a new car I looked at a few 1.9 TDi's with a 150bhp output and I test drove one with a remap included and I also looked at a few Honda 1.6 B16A2 and MB6 1.8 VTI's and guess which car I walked away with... The TDI... Four years later, no problems with my so called "P.O.S VW" and I'm still as happy with it as the day I bought it and I'm still riding with a smile and I can't find anything that can compare with it. If only Hondas had that impact...
@1ns4ne1d10t Well, good for you, would you like a cookie!! 2001 Honda Accord still riding as if was 2001 and it's 2012!! 4 years is NOT really shhh holla at me in about 10 plus years if you still riding with NO PROBLEMS. Too add to that most force induction cars are going to give you problems in the long run!! Also, 99 Eclipse still riding with VERY little problems!!
@gradyboi2 No thanks, even when I looked at an MB6 I wasn't blown away by the test drive when the dealer gave me the keys and let me spin it. To me it was lazy acceleration with never-ending revs and it was lacking kick and spirit the car just felt "manufactured". It was noisy inside and I couldn't hear the radio or my music. I drove a TDI 1.9 with a remap and I was taken back by it immediately, nice turbo whoosh, shoved back in my seat, had some real kick to it and I fell in love with it.
@1ns4ne1d10t Okay, grrrrrrrrrrrreat sir!! You are a VW owner! See the thing is that I NEVER owned one but there were several people I know who did own one and they had problem after problem with it. So, yea when I see A LOT of my friends have problems with NEW just purchased cars I stay away from them. NO car is EVER trouble free even of well taken care of (FORD) for example!!! I haven't owned one ever since that 95!!
@gradyboi2 I've never had a single problem in four years of ownership and I'm not likely to suddenly put my seven year old 1.9 TDI up for sale tomorrow or trade it in for a Honda willy nilly because someone from youtube just told me that everyone he knew that had a VW had major problems and doesn't expect it to last 10 years. I hate to say this because its probably going to hurt you but thats not going to make me convert to a Honda and join forces.
@1ns4ne1d10t Well, did I say sell it and get another car brand!! No I didn't I just said I would buy because I knew people that had issue with their VW! So what they been said you read too deep into what I said sir. Just like I know people who have driven a Ford all their life and haven't had any problems. My last reply....good day!
@gradyboi2 /watch?v=QA_KtjDymig <- Honda is so perfect, nothing ever goes wrong with a Honda. Please don't bring Ford into this, this video is about a VW vs a Honda, Ford is not worthy of a mention. Don't get me started on Fords, don't even go there... Ford are an example of how a car shouldn't be built.
@ButterBombMuzik I test drove a few VTI B16A2's and 1.8 MB6's and even with the Vtec they weren't anywhere near as much fun to drive as a TDI with a remap and after several test drives I made up my mind and walked away with a TDi 1.9 150. Four years on and I love it just as much as I did on the day I first drove it and I can't find anything that will compare to it. I never liked VW TDI's before I hated them, I was a hardened petrolhead but its proof that these fools have never driven a VW.
@ButterBombMuzik i have 3 cars so my reason to change vw for honda is not money is just cause vw is nazi shit...power steering don't means handling dumbass, try to make a moutain road or a track with your vw and you will see how much handling your vw has...
@SlipshT "Vw is Nazi shit" The Nazi's didn't build the VW Golf MkI, MkII, MkIII or MkIV because Hitla was well and truely dead by then. It was Hitla who asked Ferdinand Porsche to make the VW Beetle, the Nazi's and Hitla had nothing to do with the making of it or the company. If VW is "Nazi shit" then whats Honda? Communist shit...
@SlipshT ...Sucks. This is what you call German engineering: 1. = watch?v=NiAaY5Qki6g 2. = watch?v=oOC8Rc24YRs 3. = watch?v=GZXcOML33x0 4. = watch?v=pCj7yBld3cM
@SlipshT Why don't you get your arse cheeks out and start flapping them open and closed while you are at it. Lets face it, you bought ONE Seat Leon ONCE and you claim you drove a VW then you never put oil and water in it or put PAS steering fluid in it, never checked your tyre pressures, never did the tracking and you moan about it handling badly. I've had a Seat Leon for four years and I have never had any of the problems you had because I don't neglect mine like its a pile of crap
@1ns4ne1d10t i'm mechanic so don't tell me how i should keep my car running smoth, every part on my ex leon was original seat parts not universal parts, the car had 114k km and had more problems than my winter car that have 223k km and 17years, and yes i have a honda...sorry 3 hondas the others 2 have 126k km and 180k km and don't have even a litle problem allways run like new... seat is good and that's all...honda is just everything that seat will never be... japanese quality
@SlipshT You being a mechanic means jack shit in terms of looking after it. Just because you claim to be a so called "Mechanic" doesn't mean you WILL look after your car plenty of mechanics abuse them when they dislike a car. The only thing good about a Honda is the engine, the rest of the car is a tin can that rusts away and falls to pieces.
@1ns4ne1d10t you try to find an excuse after excuse to prove that your vw is better than honda but you fail everytime...that's been more than 50years that honda rool the streets it's not your opinion that will make vw better...
@SlipshT I havn't tried to find excuses to prove that VW is better than Honda and I havn't failed with anything I'm just stating a fact. My Seat Leon hasn't got anything to prove its a car I bought thats turned out to be a very good one. Only Volkswagen don't share their bodies and associate themselves with rubbish cars like Rover/MG unlike Honda, so what does that tell you? My seven yearold Leons been faithful to me for four years and I'm not going to sacrifice that for a Honda.
@1ns4ne1d10t honda didn't associate with mg/rover, mg was bougth by rover and rover buy every part from honda, the use some honda parts cause they bougth them, they aren't associate...honda stills 100% honda and don't need to associate with 4 shity brands and be called VAG...
@SlipshT No of course they don't, they really don't associate themselves with Rover do they? Nothing to do with them apart from the fact that for 30 years Rovers have used Hondas bodyshells and Hondas engines. "Four shitty brands from VAG" It really stings and hurts when you can't afford something better and you have to call it "Shitty" to convince yourself they are shit because you know they are half decent but you'll never be able to get hold of it so naturally the bitterness kicks in.
@1ns4ne1d10t i can afford everything you can't, i have 3 cars and already had 4 and more net summer i'll buy another one and yes it's honda, your vw is expensive but it doens't worth the money spend on it
@SlipshT ...You can afford everything that I can't just because you currently have three cars!? The number of cars you own means nothing about your financial status over my financial status. I (like you) can easily own three or more heaps of shit all at once and the three of them put together still wouldn't amount to quarter of the value of what my seven year old car is worth. Owning several old heaps is a great way of sounding richer than you actually are its like buying in bulk.
@SlipshT I was quite disappointed to hear a 1.6i 2000/W Civic going past me the other day and it sounded exactly the same as the old 1984/B 1.6 12V Honda Accord Auto we owned 20 years ago. Golfs have improved since then the 1.6 FSI's don't sound anything like the old 1980's 1.6 CL engines they sound totally different. Its just proved that Honda havn't really gone anywhere since the 1980's and they are still polishing the same old turds over a decade later...
@1ns4ne1d10t your was improved cause it is shit, honda is already good don't need to improve... how much hp can the 2011 golf 1.6 without turbo outputs? hondas 1987 crx had the 1.6 NA with 150hp... so the only thing that was improved in your golf is the sound :D
@SlipshT You keep banging on about Turbo's lets take away the 5,000-8,000 RPM Vtec 'assistance' away from the B16A2 Honda 1.6 and put it back down to 6,000 revs like every other normal engine and lets see how much horsepower it puts out then. It would be lucky to hit 90 horsepower at the most if you put it back to a 1.6 16V. Volkswagen relies on a Turbo, Honda relies on a Vtec...
do you know what vtec is or means?if you take out the vtec you gain more power dumbass, do you know about toda vtec killer cams? i don't know shit about honda so STFU... donkeys will never be horses so don't i'm not gona waste my time with you.
@SlipshT Take out the Vtec you get more power? What are you on about!? If you were to put the B16A2 engine back to the conventional 6,000 revs like every other 1.6 16V its output will be 90/100bhp. The output is 145/150bhp because of the Vtec zone which kicks in during the maximum bhp output after 5,500 revs which is right at the end revs of the conventional 16V engine. I'm not going to waste my time with an incorrectly opinionated anti-VW Honda fanboy either so goodbye.
@1ns4ne1d10t if you take out the vtec the car still can goes to 8300rpm but you wil don't have that kick at 5500rpm, the vtec was invented to make a car economic at low rpm and powerfull after 5500rpm,if you take out the vtec the car looses the economy at low rpm so you will have more power and at 5500rpm there's no vtec kick but the engine outputs the same hp and goes to 8300rpm.by the way the civic without vtec it's a 1.8 NA and outputs 140hp and what about the vw 1.8l NA ?120hp?
@SlipshT Which part of "good" and "bye" did you not understand? I really havn't got my work cut out to argue with some anti-VW insect on youtube about cars. I really don't care about Hondas "1.8 NA 140bhp" achievement because Vauxhall got 140bhp out of an NA 1.8 and Rover got 160bhp out of an NA 1.8 K series 15 years ago, you can get 140bhp out of any NA 1.8 from 120bhp if you upgrade the stock kit, engine software or internals so it really isn't an amazing acheivement...
@1ns4ne1d10t i was talking about the new honda cause the 1998 integra type r had 200hp from the 1.8l NA engine and it's still more reliable than all vw out on the market
@SlipshT Will you give it a rest, you are really starting to bore me to death. Do you actually have anything else you can talk about apart from Hondas? It just seems your life revolves around Vtec engines and their so called "perfect" reliability. (Even though I've seen them breaking headgaskets and blowing up internals 10 to the dozen) I'm really not interested in this subject anymore because its gone beyond a point and its become a total bore if I'm honest *Yawn* but you can't see it.
@SlipshT The ITR only had 200bhp on a 1.8 litre engine because it had VTEC. No Vtec = No 200bhp. Vtec is not what I would call a "Normally aspirated" engine because it adds turbo equivalent power after 5,500 revs in the form of a high revving variable valve timing assistance which can't be compared to a normal 6,000RPM output engine so my discussion ends here because I have no further comment. VW relies on a Turbo for Bhp, Honda relies on a Vtec for Bhp - end of discussion.
@SlipshT Tell you what, when Honda can finally produce a conventional petrol engine which is a normally aspirated 1.6 16V/1.8 16V - 6,000 RPM engine which puts out a standard 150bhp, 166bhp, or 200bhp without the aid of a VVT inlet cam, or a Vtec zone to shove it past 6,000 revs come and knock on my door and tell me about it and I will congratulate Honda for making a 100% normal petrol engine with a high output. Until then don't bother...
@SlipshT Bullshit, utter bullshit. I've got a Seat Leon FR TDI and the steering isn't like jelly its rock solid. You obviously deliberately hated yours and therefore neglected it because it was a car you didn't like and didn't put PAS fluid in the system and just let the pump run on air, neglected the tracking and the tyre pressures. I've done 135 and I've never heard bees beating the side of my car. Because its been so quiet and solid at that speed I havn't even noticed what speed I'm doing!
You cant have 180hp from serial 150hp (AJM) with stock turbo, intercooler and injectors. Maximum you can get from your AJM (without relacing these parts) after chiptuning is about 160hp (but very smoking), btw. optimum is around +- 103kW/332Nm
nice smoke
stepxunit 5 months ago
I have both a jetta mk4 tdi n civic b18 dohc vtec, gotta say I like the jettas comfort way more also considering to tune it but i don't wanna make a smoker lol any suggestions?
termantor28 5 months ago
egy bmw-ést még megértek.....de egy fosvágent nem...semmi ész érv nem szól mellette,jellegtelen tömeg autó(vagy bódé),szánalmas elavult technika,dieselbe is kell 2-3bar,hogy menjen.....és meg magyarázzák,hogy miért is szar a japó technik,meg gyenge a kasztni stb......szánalom huszár bandérium!
dani19771013 6 months ago
a dieselesek mindig jönnek a nyomatékkal.....hát igen,nyomaték oda kell,ahol nincs fordulat szám! ezúttal a "nyomaték szegény" honda nyert! végül is 300nm-nél az F1 kocsinak sincs több,de mégis kurva jól megy......19000rpm! boci civic 10500rpm! heló szia!
dani19771013 6 months ago
what a smoke
WEMBLEYNE 7 months ago
OMG gdybym ja jechał tym VW to ta honda była by na samym koncu ciota jezdzić nie umie. Ja swoim mk4 Honde z 2001 roku łykam aż miło nawet dalsze roczniki. Honda zawsze była i będzie przereklamowanym gównem.
Giant931 7 months ago
lol, smoke vs honda civic =))
MrCosmin94 7 months ago
fuck off honda crap
AndreasFalk8 8 months ago
@AndreasFalk8 The mighty VTEC power beat your fat TDI golf!
Japcarfan550 7 months ago
@Japcarfan550 nope. notin beats vws diesel engines
AndreasFalk8 7 months ago
zetor nyomaték tdi vs vti 10000rmp.nyomaték oda kell ahol nincs fordulat! ezúttal a civic nyert! dieselt a szántóföldre benzint az aszfaltra!bocs,"dízelesek"....dobgyatokrá még szenyet.......ha,ha....
dani19771013 8 months ago
tdi strength
12valvepower1 9 months ago
U Honda fck slipshiT should Know that 2.8 and 2.9 VR Engines were Not built for driving fast. And BTW. These engines are about 20 years old...
miamidolphin22 9 months ago
Honda boys know nothing about VW engines yet they go on like they know everything.
FintonStacks 9 months ago
Amazing Sound.
TheTadej18 9 months ago
What is this Honda?, fully chiped?? with Turbo? This is 1.8 VTI VTEC DOHC??
TheTadej18 9 months ago
Fuck Honda
SHIITSKI 9 months ago
That Golf consum more oil than Diesel XD
nou790 10 months ago
@nou790 black smoke is from injectors and diesel not from weak oil rings
zzracer 8 months ago
HONDA FTW
0oApanzo0 10 months ago
VW SUCKS
0oApanzo0 10 months ago
Someone put the diesel instead of gasoline, and it still runs!
williampk3d 10 months ago
Honda power
TheTadej18 10 months ago
hahahahaahahah vw just got his ass kicked by a vtec
MrChila3333 1 year ago
lol the golf got smoked plus the golf had a better start n the civic missed 2nd gear n ur vw got works still bhahahah...fuck vw
htowngoonies 1 year ago
honda na 13 kach a golf na 15 hahahahahhahahaha
carrerat911 1 year ago
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@gatillero proud to have 2 hondas,with your golf at the end of the day you have what?a ferrari?porsche?dumbass if is cheap quality why they are the best in quality?so cheaper means worst?keep paying a price of 2 cars for a fucking golf...i've allready owned a vw group car and i tell you one thing: NEVER MORE I'LL BUY A VW,AUDI OR ANY SHIT FROM THAT GROUP...the good germans are bmw and mercedes...
SlipshT 1 year ago
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SlipshT 1 year ago
you cant compare a diesel with an gasoline engine car , no ?
user01i 1 year ago
Hulladék VW!!!!!!
Van még mit tanulni a japánoktól!!!!
zolika320 1 year ago
derty diesel!
itfben 1 year ago
@davviscool but tht would b unfair cus u could get a 2.9 vr6 and put it up against a civic with a k20 engine but it only has to 2.2 litres, so thts unfair
stuart250f 1 year ago
all the super high power diesels are smoky as hell. they all do naturally have head sized turbochargers, but a richer mixture (as diesels always run in lean) makes more power, even a little after the smoke point, and they want all possible power
moptim 1 year ago
the golf is smoking because he does not have enough boost to burn his diesel correctly
jf61234 1 year ago
why is the golf smoking??? looks poorley:(
milktray9999 1 year ago
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lol the honda looks like a piece of scrap against the golf.
FragGile 1 year ago
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FragGile 1 year ago
the golf need a oil change haha!
manolo44op 1 year ago
golf 1 start win honda finish win honda powe
Dido454W 1 year ago
vtec power........
canadianassassin79 1 year ago 2
@canadianassassin79 Wow beat a diesel
FintonStacks 5 months ago
golf won ! VW power
Sim0novi 1 year ago
@Sim0novi
99Lezard99 1 year ago
honda civic powerrrr
Dido454W 2 years ago
Na még ha tudna sebességet váltani a köcsög Hondás..
BMW620 2 years ago
That Civic sounds so awesome!
SorsanSuuriAfro 2 years ago
i have a gol4 ..101bhp pd ...took it to 170bhp.
and still runs like shot to the golf in the movie...
clearly the honda was mod more than that...
nicely done. Now i wana see the golf tuned more!
eftincaciprian 2 years ago 6
@eftincaciprian the honda didnt even have a turbo. sooooo fuck diesel.
99Lezard99 1 year ago
Much as I love the TDi series I gotta tip my hat to that Civic! Though to be fair, it looks to me like the Golf driver dumped his clutch without enough revs.
gotindrachenhart 2 years ago
ma è palese ke il il turbo benzina DIVORA il turbo diesel
skiokonne 2 years ago
english bitch
hksjoshua 1 year ago
so? whats up with torque?
golf min 300nm
civic max 170nm...
civic won....
99Lezard99 2 years ago
Guy has a shit map. My vRS would rape that japcrap 175hp/300lbsft
magnersnice 2 years ago
oh ok of course he has ship map....
otherwise he would win clearly....
and of course you would rape that jap....
sure.....then rape it.....show us....how do you see the "shit maping"? cuz it smokes like an old train? (HAHA)
99Lezard99 2 years ago
Viel lärm um nichts. :)
to2Diesel 2 years ago
das nix hat gewonnen. warum??? hat der 500 ps gehabt? nö hat der 400nm gehabt? nö der hatte ich denke so um die 230ps aber maximal 190nm und kein turbo...und das nix hat gewonnen...seltsame welt oder?
99Lezard99 2 years ago
nasty black smoke lol
blademanx 2 years ago
già solo paragonare un golf ad una civic è un sacrilegio, ma poi un v tec con un merdosissimo e lordo tdi di merda ?
vai a cagare
Antiscooter23 2 years ago
HONDA POWER
XPTOPOWER 2 years ago
they put a golf spoiled?
lucasfc201 2 years ago
put some 16'' and u will win
golf r0x
psicho10 2 years ago
TURBO diesel vs petrol (no turbo) still lost... what a waste...
Lietuvisnx 2 years ago
The civic sounds like a chainsaw ! xD HAHAHA
VW Golf 4EVER !!!!!!!
SpeeeeeedLive89 2 years ago
yeah but the golf doesnt sounds at all and smokes like an old train.....and has a turbo and looses.......the civic was no turbo and won......sad isnt it?
99Lezard99 2 years ago
pitiful, the both of them.
msqtube 2 years ago
golf had a false start and still lost
vtec > diesel
jango1968 2 years ago
lol tdi torque is so amazing to bad it has no hp
weenabago22 2 years ago
German Cars better? HAHA!!!! Sry aber TDIs werden nie was reißen!
GermanFire1986 2 years ago
the power of dreams :)
FromBulgariaWithLove 2 years ago
screw hondas they lack torque power, and are only good in short distance race
Sythe1g 2 years ago 2
Ya all I saw was a redlining Honda... two races after this, there was a video of everyone pushing the car back to the garage..
silas132 1 year ago
@Sythe1g that's why the 1.6 NA stock engine from honda reachs the 230km/h and the stupid 1.9 tdi only reachs 210km/h...bigger engine,turbo aspirated and it still weak against a litle 1.6 NA
SlipshT 1 year ago
@SlipshT its a diesel ffs, and a well tuned one will fuck on that shitty 1.6
Dinocfs 1 year ago
@Dinocfs and a well tunned 1.6 will smoke any fucking diesel in this planet...i said stock to stock,the golf would loose even if is the version in 150hp...
SlipshT 1 year ago
@SlipshT stfu riceboy ...ur cheap ass piece of shit honda weighs light like a powerwheel toy car.. thats the only reason why they're fast .. the golf doesnt need to swap motors to be fast
gatillero 1 year ago
@gatillero why make a swap in a golf?will be shit anyway, wheigth isn't everything,honda is the perfect balance beetwen power/wheigth/durability/chassis/security and a race car driving feell...riceboy is your mother asshole...
SlipshT 1 year ago
@SlipshT lmao stfu lil ricehondaboy with ur cheap quality hoopty ass cars...at the end of the day u still have a honda
gatillero 1 year ago
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SlipshT 1 year ago
@SlipshT wrong. not perfect balance, chassis suck. plus the 1.6 is very pointless to build. the diesel is WAY more durable no doubt with better MPG's too. hondas can be fast for sure. but a 1.6 being faster? and a well tuned stock 1.6l vs a tdi stock doesnt make much sense btw. and that mkIV four door golf i BET is full interior, weights probably twice the honda duz. strip out the golf and i bet it would smoke it... literally
VcottntailW 1 year ago
@VcottntailW you don't know nothing about chassis,i had a seat leon same chassis than golf mk4 and it has like shit,always understeer and cornering like a truck...golf mk4 1500kg - honda civic 1120kg stock cars and both with ac,so even if the civic had no interior it will be weigth ~950kg...that golf is not stock
SlipshT 1 year ago
@SlipshT "I had a seat leon... yadayadayada... always understeer and cornering like a truck" You obviously didn't look after your Seat Leon properly and didn't keep ahead of the tyre pressures and tracking. They only understeer when you neglect them, its not the chassis or the weight thats the problem its the owners not keeping them maintained and not knowing how to handle the nose weight. My Leon FR TDI is absolutely fine with me, you are obviously one hell of a crap driver.
1ns4ne1d10t 1 month ago
@SlipshT lmaoo security ? pleasee anyone can break into a civic in 5 seconds and if your smart yu can swap a vr6 into a gti and it would smoke that v tech...vr6 alone, or do shit to 1.8t golf and have a stronger faster engine, and civic has no power yu can do so little to a golf and it will already have more power then a civic, all dats good about civics is that there light,
ButterBombMuzik 11 months ago
@ButterBombMuzik yes security my civic at 200km/h stays firme with no sterring wheel shaking,my ex leon same chassis that golf at 160km/h the steering wheel has like jelly and the car feels like if a bee beats the side the car will roll over, vr6?do you mean a 2.9 l 6 cyl that only outputs 175hp?i smoked one 2 times with my almost stock ek4,only had 4-2-1 headers and remus exhaust...1.8t stronger and faster?a stock b18c outputs 200hp WITHOUT TURBO, vw engines are a joke compared to honda
SlipshT 11 months ago
@SlipshT lol no yu idiot its actually a 1.8 not 1.9 and what do yu mean vw engines are a joke compared to honda do yu see how small a 1.6 engine is, okay yeah its small and has power to push a piece of shit car made of tin lmaoo, buddy volkswagen is real steel and a real engine, v dubs are much heavier then hondas cuz it isnt shitty steel, listen we all like our own cars yu can have fun with your little baby pussy toys lmaoo v-tech.... and your an idiot honestly have yu ever even been a v-dub
ButterBombMuzik 8 months ago
@ButterBombMuzik real steel?is that good?idiot...real engine???how much hp can an 1.6l stock vw motor output?105hp???asshole...and i've allready drive vw and i regret it...no fun,no power,no handling and the price :O shit i can buy 2 hondas with the same options...
SlipshT 8 months ago
@SlipshT lmaooo i doubt you drove volkswagen before or you would love it, no power? your fucking stupid kid, only reason you have a honda is cuz you pussies dont have the money to afford a volkswagen, thats why you regret it buddy, and your talking bout handling? volkswagens are more powered steering then a honda, hence why everything on a volkswagen is much more money, go work at mcdonalds and make your money for your honda kid
ButterBombMuzik 7 months ago
@ButterBombMuzik i can't affor a vw?do you know the price of a vw comparing to an honda here on switzerland? old civics or crxs with rust and a lot of km are 3 times more expensive than a good condition golf mk3...afford a vw is not a problem to me, i changed cause i didn't like the car i can't get enougth problems from that car, them i buy my civic (2 times more expensive than my seat leon)and i don't regret it and i don't sell it...now i got 2 hondas...
SlipshT 7 months ago
@ButterBombMuzik i by the way, i don't wanna go work to mcdonalds cause i don't wanna see you redneck fat ass everyday eating like a pig... FU
SlipshT 7 months ago
@ButterBombMuzik Peopl talking like VW's are the shhh are sumin' they are a P.O.S and like I said to this other punk that is it all about price not quality. Just because you pay more for a car doesn't make it better. You simple minded ass kids on here kill with that bullshhh. So you like VW's and they cost more than a Honda but at the end of the day who is still riding? Me because I KNOW people who had VW's and Audi's they ALL said they were NOT good cars. So slap yourself really hard.
gradyboi2 4 months ago
@gradyboi2 When I was choosing a new car I looked at a few 1.9 TDi's with a 150bhp output and I test drove one with a remap included and I also looked at a few Honda 1.6 B16A2 and MB6 1.8 VTI's and guess which car I walked away with... The TDI... Four years later, no problems with my so called "P.O.S VW" and I'm still as happy with it as the day I bought it and I'm still riding with a smile and I can't find anything that can compare with it. If only Hondas had that impact...
1ns4ne1d10t 1 month ago
@1ns4ne1d10t Well, good for you, would you like a cookie!! 2001 Honda Accord still riding as if was 2001 and it's 2012!! 4 years is NOT really shhh holla at me in about 10 plus years if you still riding with NO PROBLEMS. Too add to that most force induction cars are going to give you problems in the long run!! Also, 99 Eclipse still riding with VERY little problems!!
gradyboi2 1 month ago
@gradyboi2 No thanks, even when I looked at an MB6 I wasn't blown away by the test drive when the dealer gave me the keys and let me spin it. To me it was lazy acceleration with never-ending revs and it was lacking kick and spirit the car just felt "manufactured". It was noisy inside and I couldn't hear the radio or my music. I drove a TDI 1.9 with a remap and I was taken back by it immediately, nice turbo whoosh, shoved back in my seat, had some real kick to it and I fell in love with it.
1ns4ne1d10t 1 month ago
@1ns4ne1d10t Okay, grrrrrrrrrrrreat sir!! You are a VW owner! See the thing is that I NEVER owned one but there were several people I know who did own one and they had problem after problem with it. So, yea when I see A LOT of my friends have problems with NEW just purchased cars I stay away from them. NO car is EVER trouble free even of well taken care of (FORD) for example!!! I haven't owned one ever since that 95!!
gradyboi2 1 month ago
@gradyboi2 I've never had a single problem in four years of ownership and I'm not likely to suddenly put my seven year old 1.9 TDI up for sale tomorrow or trade it in for a Honda willy nilly because someone from youtube just told me that everyone he knew that had a VW had major problems and doesn't expect it to last 10 years. I hate to say this because its probably going to hurt you but thats not going to make me convert to a Honda and join forces.
1ns4ne1d10t 1 month ago
@1ns4ne1d10t Well, did I say sell it and get another car brand!! No I didn't I just said I would buy because I knew people that had issue with their VW! So what they been said you read too deep into what I said sir. Just like I know people who have driven a Ford all their life and haven't had any problems. My last reply....good day!
gradyboi2 1 month ago
@gradyboi2 /watch?v=QA_KtjDymig <- Honda is so perfect, nothing ever goes wrong with a Honda. Please don't bring Ford into this, this video is about a VW vs a Honda, Ford is not worthy of a mention. Don't get me started on Fords, don't even go there... Ford are an example of how a car shouldn't be built.
1ns4ne1d10t 1 month ago
@ButterBombMuzik I test drove a few VTI B16A2's and 1.8 MB6's and even with the Vtec they weren't anywhere near as much fun to drive as a TDI with a remap and after several test drives I made up my mind and walked away with a TDi 1.9 150. Four years on and I love it just as much as I did on the day I first drove it and I can't find anything that will compare to it. I never liked VW TDI's before I hated them, I was a hardened petrolhead but its proof that these fools have never driven a VW.
1ns4ne1d10t 1 month ago
@ButterBombMuzik i have 3 cars so my reason to change vw for honda is not money is just cause vw is nazi shit...power steering don't means handling dumbass, try to make a moutain road or a track with your vw and you will see how much handling your vw has...
SlipshT 1 month ago
@SlipshT "Vw is Nazi shit" The Nazi's didn't build the VW Golf MkI, MkII, MkIII or MkIV because Hitla was well and truely dead by then. It was Hitla who asked Ferdinand Porsche to make the VW Beetle, the Nazi's and Hitla had nothing to do with the making of it or the company. If VW is "Nazi shit" then whats Honda? Communist shit...
1ns4ne1d10t 1 month ago
@1ns4ne1d10t JAPANESE ENGINEERING...
SlipshT 1 month ago
@SlipshT ...Sucks. This is what you call German engineering: 1. = watch?v=NiAaY5Qki6g 2. = watch?v=oOC8Rc24YRs 3. = watch?v=GZXcOML33x0 4. = watch?v=pCj7yBld3cM
1ns4ne1d10t 1 month ago
@SlipshT Why don't you get your arse cheeks out and start flapping them open and closed while you are at it. Lets face it, you bought ONE Seat Leon ONCE and you claim you drove a VW then you never put oil and water in it or put PAS steering fluid in it, never checked your tyre pressures, never did the tracking and you moan about it handling badly. I've had a Seat Leon for four years and I have never had any of the problems you had because I don't neglect mine like its a pile of crap
1ns4ne1d10t 1 month ago
@1ns4ne1d10t i'm mechanic so don't tell me how i should keep my car running smoth, every part on my ex leon was original seat parts not universal parts, the car had 114k km and had more problems than my winter car that have 223k km and 17years, and yes i have a honda...sorry 3 hondas the others 2 have 126k km and 180k km and don't have even a litle problem allways run like new... seat is good and that's all...honda is just everything that seat will never be... japanese quality
SlipshT 1 month ago
@SlipshT You being a mechanic means jack shit in terms of looking after it. Just because you claim to be a so called "Mechanic" doesn't mean you WILL look after your car plenty of mechanics abuse them when they dislike a car. The only thing good about a Honda is the engine, the rest of the car is a tin can that rusts away and falls to pieces.
1ns4ne1d10t 1 month ago
@1ns4ne1d10t you try to find an excuse after excuse to prove that your vw is better than honda but you fail everytime...that's been more than 50years that honda rool the streets it's not your opinion that will make vw better...
SlipshT 1 month ago 5
@SlipshT I havn't tried to find excuses to prove that VW is better than Honda and I havn't failed with anything I'm just stating a fact. My Seat Leon hasn't got anything to prove its a car I bought thats turned out to be a very good one. Only Volkswagen don't share their bodies and associate themselves with rubbish cars like Rover/MG unlike Honda, so what does that tell you? My seven yearold Leons been faithful to me for four years and I'm not going to sacrifice that for a Honda.
1ns4ne1d10t 1 month ago
@1ns4ne1d10t honda didn't associate with mg/rover, mg was bougth by rover and rover buy every part from honda, the use some honda parts cause they bougth them, they aren't associate...honda stills 100% honda and don't need to associate with 4 shity brands and be called VAG...
SlipshT 1 month ago
@SlipshT No of course they don't, they really don't associate themselves with Rover do they? Nothing to do with them apart from the fact that for 30 years Rovers have used Hondas bodyshells and Hondas engines. "Four shitty brands from VAG" It really stings and hurts when you can't afford something better and you have to call it "Shitty" to convince yourself they are shit because you know they are half decent but you'll never be able to get hold of it so naturally the bitterness kicks in.
1ns4ne1d10t 1 month ago
@1ns4ne1d10t i can afford everything you can't, i have 3 cars and already had 4 and more net summer i'll buy another one and yes it's honda, your vw is expensive but it doens't worth the money spend on it
SlipshT 1 month ago 2
@SlipshT ...You can afford everything that I can't just because you currently have three cars!? The number of cars you own means nothing about your financial status over my financial status. I (like you) can easily own three or more heaps of shit all at once and the three of them put together still wouldn't amount to quarter of the value of what my seven year old car is worth. Owning several old heaps is a great way of sounding richer than you actually are its like buying in bulk.
1ns4ne1d10t 1 month ago
@SlipshT I was quite disappointed to hear a 1.6i 2000/W Civic going past me the other day and it sounded exactly the same as the old 1984/B 1.6 12V Honda Accord Auto we owned 20 years ago. Golfs have improved since then the 1.6 FSI's don't sound anything like the old 1980's 1.6 CL engines they sound totally different. Its just proved that Honda havn't really gone anywhere since the 1980's and they are still polishing the same old turds over a decade later...
1ns4ne1d10t 1 month ago
@1ns4ne1d10t your was improved cause it is shit, honda is already good don't need to improve... how much hp can the 2011 golf 1.6 without turbo outputs? hondas 1987 crx had the 1.6 NA with 150hp... so the only thing that was improved in your golf is the sound :D
SlipshT 1 month ago
@SlipshT You keep banging on about Turbo's lets take away the 5,000-8,000 RPM Vtec 'assistance' away from the B16A2 Honda 1.6 and put it back down to 6,000 revs like every other normal engine and lets see how much horsepower it puts out then. It would be lucky to hit 90 horsepower at the most if you put it back to a 1.6 16V. Volkswagen relies on a Turbo, Honda relies on a Vtec...
1ns4ne1d10t 1 month ago
do you know what vtec is or means?if you take out the vtec you gain more power dumbass, do you know about toda vtec killer cams? i don't know shit about honda so STFU... donkeys will never be horses so don't i'm not gona waste my time with you.
SlipshT 1 month ago
@SlipshT Take out the Vtec you get more power? What are you on about!? If you were to put the B16A2 engine back to the conventional 6,000 revs like every other 1.6 16V its output will be 90/100bhp. The output is 145/150bhp because of the Vtec zone which kicks in during the maximum bhp output after 5,500 revs which is right at the end revs of the conventional 16V engine. I'm not going to waste my time with an incorrectly opinionated anti-VW Honda fanboy either so goodbye.
1ns4ne1d10t 1 month ago
@1ns4ne1d10t if you take out the vtec the car still can goes to 8300rpm but you wil don't have that kick at 5500rpm, the vtec was invented to make a car economic at low rpm and powerfull after 5500rpm,if you take out the vtec the car looses the economy at low rpm so you will have more power and at 5500rpm there's no vtec kick but the engine outputs the same hp and goes to 8300rpm.by the way the civic without vtec it's a 1.8 NA and outputs 140hp and what about the vw 1.8l NA ?120hp?
SlipshT 1 month ago 3
@SlipshT Which part of "good" and "bye" did you not understand? I really havn't got my work cut out to argue with some anti-VW insect on youtube about cars. I really don't care about Hondas "1.8 NA 140bhp" achievement because Vauxhall got 140bhp out of an NA 1.8 and Rover got 160bhp out of an NA 1.8 K series 15 years ago, you can get 140bhp out of any NA 1.8 from 120bhp if you upgrade the stock kit, engine software or internals so it really isn't an amazing acheivement...
1ns4ne1d10t 1 month ago
@1ns4ne1d10t i was talking about the new honda cause the 1998 integra type r had 200hp from the 1.8l NA engine and it's still more reliable than all vw out on the market
SlipshT 1 month ago
@SlipshT Will you give it a rest, you are really starting to bore me to death. Do you actually have anything else you can talk about apart from Hondas? It just seems your life revolves around Vtec engines and their so called "perfect" reliability. (Even though I've seen them breaking headgaskets and blowing up internals 10 to the dozen) I'm really not interested in this subject anymore because its gone beyond a point and its become a total bore if I'm honest *Yawn* but you can't see it.
1ns4ne1d10t 1 month ago
@SlipshT The ITR only had 200bhp on a 1.8 litre engine because it had VTEC. No Vtec = No 200bhp. Vtec is not what I would call a "Normally aspirated" engine because it adds turbo equivalent power after 5,500 revs in the form of a high revving variable valve timing assistance which can't be compared to a normal 6,000RPM output engine so my discussion ends here because I have no further comment. VW relies on a Turbo for Bhp, Honda relies on a Vtec for Bhp - end of discussion.
1ns4ne1d10t 1 month ago
@SlipshT Tell you what, when Honda can finally produce a conventional petrol engine which is a normally aspirated 1.6 16V/1.8 16V - 6,000 RPM engine which puts out a standard 150bhp, 166bhp, or 200bhp without the aid of a VVT inlet cam, or a Vtec zone to shove it past 6,000 revs come and knock on my door and tell me about it and I will congratulate Honda for making a 100% normal petrol engine with a high output. Until then don't bother...
1ns4ne1d10t 1 month ago
@SlipshT Bullshit, utter bullshit. I've got a Seat Leon FR TDI and the steering isn't like jelly its rock solid. You obviously deliberately hated yours and therefore neglected it because it was a car you didn't like and didn't put PAS fluid in the system and just let the pump run on air, neglected the tracking and the tyre pressures. I've done 135 and I've never heard bees beating the side of my car. Because its been so quiet and solid at that speed I havn't even noticed what speed I'm doing!
1ns4ne1d10t 1 month ago
where is the golf i can´t see it because of the smoke.
c´mon honda is a monster .
and u punk JasonGLS honda look like shit? u lil cunt
colinIG 2 years ago
Fuck japp power. Germans make better cars anyway. The mk4 is a way better built and look car that honda look like shit
JasonGLS 2 years ago
wishful thinking
hondica 2 years ago
wow the golf is rlly smoking
xSephangelx 2 years ago
hahaha fucking VW HONDA 4 live japan power
kevinbiker88 2 years ago
ok buddie then wen gas runs out ur gonna have to hitch a ride with the tdi cus and his car was not even tht tuned and tht honda was almost maxed out
Canadian444 2 years ago
spell-check you genius, or are you going for hipster lolcat?
msqtube 2 years ago
whats really funny is the guy in the tdi drove the car to the track and the civic came on at trailer. lol.
ORIANA250 2 years ago
haha your right and he got 40mpg lol.
2000jeepsahara 2 years ago
So I guess Audi winning lemans with a TDI powerplant doesnt count for anything.
IndefinateOutcomes 2 years ago
CIVIC WINS!!!!!!
CANERm3 3 years ago 2
That civic sounds like a lawnmower, lol.
TDI power.. love that smoke. Because real cars don't have spark plugs.
andrewtdi 3 years ago
and that TDI sound like a tractor!
:D
KLiKzg 2 years ago
love the TDI's got one myself and ill never regret going over to diesel
durtrix 2 years ago
Better MPG than what a civic get's with the always there possibility of more Power with a few turns of a wrench.
Magnuspire 2 years ago
fuck golf, fuck german wracks
JAPAN POWER is the real power
besize what is golf??? O_o muhahhahahha
atlanticc2000 3 years ago
Define Civic for us, eh?
Civic: The study of good citizenship and proper membership in a community.
A car for old and boring people.
FatasMe 2 years ago
Lucky picture.. Golf smoke like, like.. Golf !!
Wojticivic1993 3 years ago 21
diesels smoke when u floor it but not like that, my mercedes e270 cdi is so fast people this its the e500 or the e55 version.
shalaking 3 years ago
looooooooooooooooooooool
Federotondo 3 years ago
fuck golf
Federotondo 3 years ago
lol
mafgti 3 years ago
that diesel engine isnt happy xD
NorthwesternNL 3 years ago
rofl*!!
the smoke is ok ..its because of the loads of pressure and heat of the diesel burning up unnaturaly..see other vids of modified diesel cars
muli1000 3 years ago
Nah, I have a Golf TDI and it does the same when I floor it... Maybe something is wrong xD
NorthwesternNL 3 years ago 2
same ting happens with my rover TDI when i burn the tires it smokes like hell behind me, and i hate it so much. It looks very stupid :D
lameristotel 3 years ago
Yep, but you have stock setup, am I right?
ForestTDI 3 years ago
Mine is chip tuned.
NorthwesternNL 3 years ago
OK than and output? If you dont have 200PS and at least 450Nm. than it is almost like stock :D
Believe me, if you have one turbo and 200+PS than your diesel smokes (because of lag). Only solution is twin turbo *evil*
ForestTDI 3 years ago
origionaly it has 115hp, now it has 180. But mine only does that when I floor it.
NorthwesternNL 3 years ago
You cant have 180hp from serial 150hp (AJM) with stock turbo, intercooler and injectors. Maximum you can get from your AJM (without relacing these parts) after chiptuning is about 160hp (but very smoking), btw. optimum is around +- 103kW/332Nm
ForestTDI 3 years ago
sounds like formula 1 :D
voyager1991 3 years ago
=] yea..good sound..was that from civic?
muli1000 3 years ago
no from TDI :P the sound is fake :D
voyager1991 3 years ago
its 100% the civic and is not fake;)
its a typical civic sound.
sikimpapustu 3 years ago