Not that I'm defending the Wii. it should have had more storage space and memory, and should have had the restrictions for games that it currently has (like Black Ops and Conduit 2) since launch. Unfortunately, motion controls were new, and for the industry to be broken, Nintendo had to take a kick. That hasn't stopped sales, and overall, playing an FPS with motion controls, I really don't think I can ever go back to playing them with joysticks. Good games on Wii should also be publicised more.
Graphics on wii aren't as high a standard as xbox and ps3 as on xbox and ps3 developers push the hardware to the limits in order to make their game stand out graphically as this is what buyers look for. People who play wii aren't retarded and don't just buy the best looking games, which is why developers spend more time improving gameplay.
I'm sorry but this game looks like a tech demo from 2003 and last time I checked it was 2011. All those effects can be done on the original Xbox. The Wii has crappy specs and the best looking games on the Wii show it. I think its funny when Wii fanboys say stuff like "Conduit 2 looks better than Halo 2" WOW ....really?....not something to be proud of at this point. The Wii has faster ram then the GameCube...thats it.
@ViciousAlienKlown This doesn't look like a tech demo from 2003 you idiot... This is a full game running and just showing graphical highlights. Considering this game is running on a system that is only about 2x more powerful than the Gamecube this is VERY impressive.
It's 2011 Wii still doesn't even come close to Xbox1 graphics.
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Other games: Splinter cell chaos theory(looks even better than some 360 games), Rallisport challenge 2, Riddick, Doom3, Race driver 3 and on and on. There's not one single Wii game that comes even close to the graphics of those games.
@MrPopular22 The Grinder looks better than all of those games except maybe Splinter Cell Chaos Theory. And lol all the screenshots of the game and gameplay are from it in it's Alpha or Pre Alpha XD. The 3DS can run Quantum 3 too but not the most current which is The grinder.
I have a Wii and the conduit. It looks exactly like in this video. The grinder isn't out yet and the videos i saw here on youtube didn't impress me too much.
I mean just compare these two:
watch?v=SxyCTENeznc grinder
watch?v=E7aeRXxz0c8 conker
Conker looks almost one generation ahead. Better lightning-shadows-textures, brighter colors, way more detail .Until now Xbox1 is superior to everything the wii has to offer. Take a component cable, play in 480P and you'll see.
@MrPopular22 Conker does not look nearly as good. The Grinder was in pre alpha and STILL looks better than conker. I do agree though Splinter Cell looks excellent, but the Wii isn't as weak as you make it seem. With the 3DS pulling off textures that are better than almost any Xbox game (Resident Evil Revelations- and maybe Resident Evil Mercinaries) I am sure the Wii, being 2x the power of the 3DS, can produce even better textures.
@NintendoDSVampire Farcry on the Xbox 1 looks better than anything on the Wii and so does Doom 3. The Wii best looking games don't match these games in terms of graphics and the Xbox1 had better online. 2011 and the Wii is almost dead.
@ViciousAlienKlown I'll disagree. I love my Xbox, and I love my Wii. From a totally unbiased viewpoint here, there is nothing on the original Xbox which the Wii can't, or hasn't already beaten. I loaded up Halo 2 the other day, and my god, there is nothing on that game which looks anything close to The Conduit, let alone Conduit 2. Bad games don't define a console. Good games do. Even the PS2 was chock full of thousands of awful games that no one remembers. The Wii has a good solid library.
@MrPopular22 You obviously dont because this is the beta build. Also the origonal xbox didnt have cell shading so how the hell does it have better shading effects? And the Conduits weapons like the SCAR, and Deatomizer all look better in the final version. So does the ASE and certain enimes like the Drudge.
Halo 2s texutres are more blury then Conduit 1.
Monster Hunter Tri looks better then anything on xbox.
I own a softmodded wii with tons of games on the HDD including conduit. And none of them look better than conker or splinter cell or Far cry. Cell shading? You know what Cell shading is, right? It was already used on Dreamcast for Jet set radio or Looney tunes space race. Cel shading has nothing to do with proper shadow quality. It is used to make a comic like look.
@MrPopular22 Ha, nice joke they all look better then conker or splinter cell or far cry. Also really? Modding? I shoudnt even waste my time with a thief like you.
Yeah, poor poor developers, charging 60€ for an average playtime of 8 hours and visuals from 2004. I'm starting to cry about them, really.Wii has the biggest crapload of shitgames a console ever had. This is not entertaining, it's insulting. Oh, and who told you that i steal? I just backup my orignals :-)
@MrPopular22 Goldeneye 007 Kirbys Epic Yarn Epic Mickey Metroid Prime Trilogy Mario Galaxy 1 and 2(The 2 HIGHEST) Rated games this generation New Super Mario Bros Zelda Twilight Princess Excite Bots Trick Raceing Mario Kart Super Smash Bros No More Heroes 1 and 2 Deadly Creatures Madworld Manhunt 2 Red Steel 2 Metroid Other M Do i really need to continue?
So what? The Wii was released in 2006 and you can't count more than 20-25 really good games on it. Epic Mickey is shit, Manhunt 2 was on PS2 (UNCUT!),Zelda twilight was also on gamecube, Mario kart and Smash bros are almost the same games as the gamecube versions. Almost all really good games for the wii are coming from Nintendo, and there are not too much of them since 2006. It will take at least 10 pages if i start to count all the crapgames released on Wii.
@WiiAwards well... i think goldeneye is kinda overrated -.- .. well its good for splitscreen... anyway... i BET most guys didnt see the wii game "The last Story" ... DUDE it has SICK graphics and effects and gameplay is AMAZING... its ashame its only japanese version available... but youi should DEFINETLY try it out man...even if you dont know shit bvout jap. i dont either... everyone should see this game live and THEN shit on wii and its graphics
@MrPopular22 Gladiator AD used to look better than ALL of them before it was changed to a crappy arcade game, where the graphics were watered down and the gore was taken out -_-.
@NintendoDSVampire Yeah, it looks worse, seriously why do people defend this peice of crap console. Bad games, outdated hardware and useless motion controls.
@ViciousAlienKlown It speaks volumes that you're the one complaining about people defending a 'crap console', when you're the one taking your time to post such misguided and bias messages. Let me guess, you're in school. You lot seem to have that sort of mentality. Tell you what, how about you stick to your own chosen console, and let people who own their own play them and discuss them in peace. The Wii is outdated power-wise, but it was a fraction of the cost, and has hundreds of decent games.
@tquinnathome1 Why bother, seriously...the Wii is bowing out, it might sell ok this holiday. Besides the Wii was outdated before it even came out. A lot of people abandoned the console rather quickly because it didn't hold their interest and brought in new people but that happened to them as well, collected dust. Nintendo hurt themselves with the Wii and how they handled the games for it. It shows with the 3DS, no games and incomplete hardware....add-on analog stick anyone?
@ViciousAlienKlown Wii is still going quite modestly a good 5 years after it's launch- and you're telling me it was outdated then? It's not all about graphics and power, but innovation. People like motion controls, it sells to a large audience and has genuinely brought some real good- FPS's just aren't the same without them, and Pllaystation have HAD to follow suit with the Move. The 3DS and other products are entirely irrelevant. We're talking about the highest selling 7th gen console here- Wii
the art direction was retarded, the doors on the streets level were like n64 and there were some fucking brick walls in the second floors full whit bump mapping, you are not going to contemplate the fucking brick walls, they should have put that effort on the walls insithe the buildings, specially were they are destroyed.
You know what I don"t get. How come most of the second party games on the wii have awesome graphics while alot of third part games have low graphics? Seriously. So far the only third party games on the wii that I seen with awesome graphics were The Conduit, Monster Hunter 3, and Sonic Unleashed.
ps2 screwed bt3 up thats y bt4 is now on the 360/ps3 they never even used the wii 's true potential damn u ps2 and the wii is more powerful than ur ps2.
But Nintendo itself has chosen not to provide intricate breakdowns for Wii's CPU and GPU.
But with the specs we have, we can asume that it is about as powerful as gamecube 2x(for tho´s who do not know, the gamecube is slightly more powerful then PS2).
Slightly? Resident Evil 4 on Gamecube embarrassed the Ps2 version with refraction, shadows, and light bloom, not to mention polygon counts. Look up "RESIDENT EVIL 4 Differences GC vs PS2" on Youtube.
I'm actually not surprised, given how much emphasis HVS placed on the effects, atleast the polygon counts don't appear to have suffered as much as certain effects-heavy Xbox 1 games like Chronicles of Riddick.
@HeroOfWinds007 as the rules to the internet state, if you want to prove this factual you will need to provide a visual comparison between leon and any conduit character. and dont quote me but im pretty sure RE4 has bump mapping as well. but if you cant deliver visual evidence im gonna have to say your full of crap.
Correction, both games had bump mapping (Though RE4 to a lesser extent), but only The Conduit had normal mapping, which is a technique specifically used to add details without using more polygons. Plus The Conduit had more effects and things going on (pretty much everything in this demo isn't in RE4). TC had better animations and textures then RE4 too.
And actually why don't you provide the source of how many polygons Leon's model has, as I cant find proof of that either.
@HeroOfWinds007 i sent you a link in a pm with the info on the polycount. and i think that it is impossible to prove if animations are better but im still going to have to side with RE4 on that one. but you got me on textures, the conduit probably has 4x the textures of RE4 but i have to say that they were applied poorly. if you dont try to look for detail in the conduit you wont find it.
quote"So, Ill warn casual readers again the number of polygons used dont matter if they are not used well. This is simply a technical markerpost to try and identify what certain games used on certain hardware at a certain time. Supposedly Halo 2 used less polygons for Masterchief than Halo 1, and Ive heard that Call of Duty 4 used less polygons for the character models that CoD2 did I suspect this will due to relying more heavily on normal mapping to create the details. "
This game has about 1000 polygon,and the wall is crappy and the texture is bad.And the light and the visual was made by emphases which is going to make the game glitchy.
how would you know? personally i think this will have the best graphics yet on wii because they are trying really hard to specifically make ps3 and 360 graphics the best they can on the wii
I know that you don't really understand what im saying because your not smart enough to,You dont know about hardware like how I do,I know plenty of people on youtube that knows about graphic chip like me,and we share information,thats why I know alot about these stuff.
those people don,t know jack the only people that knows adout graphic chip are the game developvers, this game right here won't prove that let, because it still in pre-alpha stage. plus if you want to see how far Wii can go type in lair in wii engine on this site.
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I came to set everything straight,because im tire od ya wii fan saying that the wii have better graphic than the ps2 when the ps2 have wayyy better graphic
Right, hineskamau08, you need to learn how to present decent grammar in your posts, while you're at it, get some fucking common sense.
Find me a game on the PS2 that looks better than The Conduit. If you're going to spew shit like 'ps2 haz betta grafickz den teh wii lolol' without providing proof then get out of here.
so you say PS2 have way better graphics than Wii lets see ps2 CPU 294MHz, Wii CPU 729MHz
ps2 GPU 147MHz, Wii 243MHz, ps2 performance 65,000,000 polygons per second, Wii 500,000,000 polygons per second, Yeah seem to me the Wii have better graphics
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Your wrong the ps2 gpu is 500mhz and the ps2 cpu is 300mhz,look on my profile and go to my video its call sony and microsoft is lieing then look on the description on the video and you will see that ps2 have better graphic.
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The ps2 chip is not a smart chip but its a very fast and powerful chip,the ps2 graphic chip dont really proccess the effect and the shadows and the graphic,the gpu do,thats why sony make the gpu very strong.
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Listen and learn this is someone that know alot about graphic chip,your information is wrong the ps2 can hold way more than 65 million polygon you dumbfuck.
ps2=2.4 gigapixel rate
150 million points
50 million spirits
75 million untextured triangles
37.5 million textured triangles
This is the reason why the ps2 has better graphic than the wii,because it has a mpeg image proccessing unit
if you know about graphics chip so much tell me which is better emotion engine or Power PC
p.s. you need to look up Power PC that something that ps2 didn,t use, that is the reason why sony drop the emotion engine, and went with the Cell broadband for ps3, ps2 use the graphics synthesizer why the Wii use ATI Hollywood which is more powerful
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the emotion engine is way powerful,the ps emotion engine is 128bit.The 128-Bit part of the title means that this chipset both processes information and sends it over a 128Bit bus,a Bus is the pathway between chips on a circuit board.A wide bus carries more bits of information and is thus faster than a narrower bus.You may think that your PC has a faster processor, but remember that the Emotion Engine has inherently faster 128-Bit processing and it is just a part of the overall ps2 power.
the emotion engine is way powerful,the ps2 emotion engine is 128bit.The 128-Bit part of the title means that this chipset both processes information and sends it over a 128Bit bus,a Bus is the pathway between chips on a circuit board.A wide bus carries more bits of information and is thus faster than a narrower bus.You may think that your PC has a faster processor, but remember that the Emotion Engine has inherently faster 128-Bit processing and it is just a part of the overall ps2 power.
dude seriously you're just making look yourself as the dumbest person in the world how can ps2 have better graphics than wii ehen wii is extremely near of ps3 graphics if the game is worked properly like all nintendo classics including brawl and Mario Galaxy
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they need to upgrade the textures in mario galaxy. it looks great, but have you ever went 1st person cam? not too good, anyways i think that if the wii is so much more powerful then the prev gen systems, then why is it that re4 wii is still one of the best looking games on wii?
Dude, the Wii has about 2.5 times better PPS than every previous gen console. There's NO DOUBT it has better graphics than the last gen consoles. The only reason there has been hardly any games proving it is because the developers think that since the Wii isn't HD, they don't have to worry about graphics. Graphics are determined completely by the developers attitude.
Well, that, and it's arguably the easiest system to make a game for. Shovelware abound on the system, so it's really hard to separate the good stuff from the bad...the only surefire good on it is determined by the words "Produced by Nintendo." Other than that, it's really hard to find a decent game.
That still doesn't change the fact that the Wii has about as much hardcore games as the 360, because it's cheaper to make games on so the Wii's library in general, is way bigger than any other console.
@PearLock because is easier to make better effects on the otter consoles, its the law of minimum effort , maximum profit!, have you seen Disney Chanel? those hanna montanesque shows cost as much as Mexican novels and yet win millions !
False. If you actually took TWO seconds to look up the Wii's specs, you'd know it's capable of out-putting 4 times the polygon per second count as the original X-box. And it has exactly 5 times the RAM speed of the Gamecube... It's called 'research', faggot.
@PearLock The original Xbox has more ram and a faster processor....the sad part is that the original Xbox came out in 2001 and the theres idiots boasting in 2011 how the Wii outperforms a 9 year old console. Thats like comparing the Sega Dreamcast to a Super Nintendo...pathetic. Whats worse is that the Wii has the worse game library, the final nail in its coffin. Besides, everyone bought a Kinect 360 instead of a Wii.
@ViciousAlienKlown False. Seriously look up the Wii's specs. Also, the Wii doesn't have the worst library. 100% true, the 360 has the fewest true exclusives (under 20), while PS3 and Wii have over 45 each. Off the top of my head... -Super Mario Galaxy (in top ten highest rated games of all time) -Madworld (one of the most violent games ever created) -Super Mario Galaxy 2 -HotD: 1 & 2, and Overkill -MP3 -DK Country Returns -Redsteel 2 -No More Heroe -No More Heroes 2 -Punch Out
@PearLock The Wii can only do 480p which last time I checked wasn't HD, the original Xbox had a hand full of games that actually put out 720p like Freedom Fighters. Either way the Wii sucks.
the ps2 was the least powerful console of the last generation the gamecube was the best the wii is 3 times more powerful than a gamecube your point is terminated dumb fuck
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actually the xbox was the most powerful system of the 3. it had the most RAM. a built in hdd and could display in 720p- something the wii still cant do!
lol thats so true, the only reason why people thought that the ps2 had better graphics was because of the games. If gamecube had GTA on it than it would had look better than the ps2 one. ex Resident Evil 4 for the ps2 vs the gamecube version
The Xbox may have more powerful specs but the Gamecube was made more efficiently and benefits because of it. Factor 5 even made the claim that the Xbox would have trouble running Rogue Squadron which ran on the Gamecube with a very good framerate, despite so many things going on.
If you add up all the wii hardware and gpu and cpu and everything up together its 64bit overall,if you add up the ps2 hardware and the cpu and the gpu and everything up together its 128bit,that means the ps2 is twice as powerful as the wii.And the wii is very weak,the wii adaper is 6.5 volt and the ps2 adapter is 8.5 volt.
this is a stupid qoute to what you saying here, if the Wii was 64 bit it won't be able to this handle this game that is shown here.
Wii is way more powerful than ps2, Wii can do 500 million polygons with visual and effects turn on, ps2 can only manage 15 million polygons with the visual and effect turn on but can manage 75 million polygons with visual&effect turn off that prove Power PC and ATI are much powerful
The wii is 64bit you dumb noob,I cannot believe that you dont know how much bit your console have to your playing.The wii is 64bit google it.And all of your fact is wrong,theres no game on the wii that has photorelistic game,I bet you cannot even name 1 photorelistic game on the wii.The wii hardware only can produce cartoon looking graphic.Read my previous comment because all of your opinion is wrong.
And the wii still pwn the ps2 in power alone, get over it Wii gpu is 243 and the ps2 gpu is 147. you here talking about bits and bus which part not part of graphical power, the clock number on the the chip prove graphical power. you need to google it and it prove the wii is stronger.
Lol the clock number doesnt prove how the graphic is you dumbass lol,your a ediot.The hardware is what make the graphic good or bad,the ps2 has better hardware built inside of it than the wii.And yes power does count.Because it depend and how much poly the console can hold,Your information is wrong.And theres no way in hell the wii is stronger than the ps2,google it the ps2 is 128bit and the wii is 64bit.and the ps2 gpu is 500mhz and the cpu is 300mhz dumbfuck.
to: hineskamau08 !what the hell,are you fuckin crazy how in the fuck is the ps2 more powerful then the wii,dude the gamecube was more powerful then ps2,the gamecube had the best looking games last-gen and metriod prime 1 won the best graphics awards in 2003.dude the wii is about five time more powerful then ps2.you are fucking crazy.
And get the fuck outta here wii fan,you say the gamecube got better graphic than the wii right,can you give me proves why the gamecube have better graphic than the ps2 I bet you cant,and dont come up with resident evil 4 because that game was made on the gamecube engine then it scrap on the ps2 engine.Look at multiplatform games like svr 09 for the ps2 and wii and you will see that the ps2 one look wayyy bettter.The ps2 graphic is sharper and much better.
Wow ya wii fan is very funny,this game doesnt have good graphic but the graphic is ok its not good,because the monster is jaggy if you pause the video on look at it,everything is jaggy if you pause it and look at it,the ps2 have wayyy better graphic than the shitty wii,look at project snowblind for the ps2,and look at gran turismo 4 for the ps2 and more.Theres no game for the wii that have graphic tht is close to those games.
Please point me to this video!! Also, what are his sources? I doubt it will look a lot better. Of course, there is always room for improvement. I doubt that this is ALL the Wii can do, But It probably is 85%. We'll see.
Not that I'm defending the Wii. it should have had more storage space and memory, and should have had the restrictions for games that it currently has (like Black Ops and Conduit 2) since launch. Unfortunately, motion controls were new, and for the industry to be broken, Nintendo had to take a kick. That hasn't stopped sales, and overall, playing an FPS with motion controls, I really don't think I can ever go back to playing them with joysticks. Good games on Wii should also be publicised more.
tquinnathome1 3 months ago
Whats sad is people comparing brand new games on the Wii to games from 2003. That says it all. The Xbox 1 has a better game library as well.
ViciousAlienKlown 3 months ago
Graphics on wii aren't as high a standard as xbox and ps3 as on xbox and ps3 developers push the hardware to the limits in order to make their game stand out graphically as this is what buyers look for. People who play wii aren't retarded and don't just buy the best looking games, which is why developers spend more time improving gameplay.
666Skaterkyle666 7 months ago
I'm sorry but this game looks like a tech demo from 2003 and last time I checked it was 2011. All those effects can be done on the original Xbox. The Wii has crappy specs and the best looking games on the Wii show it. I think its funny when Wii fanboys say stuff like "Conduit 2 looks better than Halo 2" WOW ....really?....not something to be proud of at this point. The Wii has faster ram then the GameCube...thats it.
ViciousAlienKlown 1 year ago
@ViciousAlienKlown This doesn't look like a tech demo from 2003 you idiot... This is a full game running and just showing graphical highlights. Considering this game is running on a system that is only about 2x more powerful than the Gamecube this is VERY impressive.
NintendoDSVampire 11 months ago
@NintendoDSVampire
It DOES look like a tech demo from 2003.
It's 2011 Wii still doesn't even come close to Xbox1 graphics.
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Other games: Splinter cell chaos theory(looks even better than some 360 games), Rallisport challenge 2, Riddick, Doom3, Race driver 3 and on and on. There's not one single Wii game that comes even close to the graphics of those games.
MrPopular22 10 months ago
@MrPopular22 The Grinder looks better than all of those games except maybe Splinter Cell Chaos Theory. And lol all the screenshots of the game and gameplay are from it in it's Alpha or Pre Alpha XD. The 3DS can run Quantum 3 too but not the most current which is The grinder.
NintendoDSVampire 10 months ago
@NintendoDSVampire
I have a Wii and the conduit. It looks exactly like in this video. The grinder isn't out yet and the videos i saw here on youtube didn't impress me too much.
I mean just compare these two:
watch?v=SxyCTENeznc grinder
watch?v=E7aeRXxz0c8 conker
Conker looks almost one generation ahead. Better lightning-shadows-textures, brighter colors, way more detail .Until now Xbox1 is superior to everything the wii has to offer. Take a component cable, play in 480P and you'll see.
MrPopular22 10 months ago
@MrPopular22 Conker does not look nearly as good. The Grinder was in pre alpha and STILL looks better than conker. I do agree though Splinter Cell looks excellent, but the Wii isn't as weak as you make it seem. With the 3DS pulling off textures that are better than almost any Xbox game (Resident Evil Revelations- and maybe Resident Evil Mercinaries) I am sure the Wii, being 2x the power of the 3DS, can produce even better textures.
NintendoDSVampire 10 months ago
@NintendoDSVampire Farcry on the Xbox 1 looks better than anything on the Wii and so does Doom 3. The Wii best looking games don't match these games in terms of graphics and the Xbox1 had better online. 2011 and the Wii is almost dead.
ViciousAlienKlown 3 months ago
@ViciousAlienKlown I'll disagree. I love my Xbox, and I love my Wii. From a totally unbiased viewpoint here, there is nothing on the original Xbox which the Wii can't, or hasn't already beaten. I loaded up Halo 2 the other day, and my god, there is nothing on that game which looks anything close to The Conduit, let alone Conduit 2. Bad games don't define a console. Good games do. Even the PS2 was chock full of thousands of awful games that no one remembers. The Wii has a good solid library.
tquinnathome1 3 months ago
@MrPopular22 You obviously dont because this is the beta build. Also the origonal xbox didnt have cell shading so how the hell does it have better shading effects? And the Conduits weapons like the SCAR, and Deatomizer all look better in the final version. So does the ASE and certain enimes like the Drudge.
Halo 2s texutres are more blury then Conduit 1.
Monster Hunter Tri looks better then anything on xbox.
So does Red Steel 2
And zelda skyward sword
And Mario Galaxy 1/2
And Goldeneye :)
WiiAwards 10 months ago
@WiiAwards
I own a softmodded wii with tons of games on the HDD including conduit. And none of them look better than conker or splinter cell or Far cry. Cell shading? You know what Cell shading is, right? It was already used on Dreamcast for Jet set radio or Looney tunes space race. Cel shading has nothing to do with proper shadow quality. It is used to make a comic like look.
MrPopular22 10 months ago
@MrPopular22 Ha, nice joke they all look better then conker or splinter cell or far cry. Also really? Modding? I shoudnt even waste my time with a thief like you.
WiiAwards 10 months ago
@WiiAwards
Muahaha, go fuck yourself man.
MrPopular22 10 months ago
@MrPopular22 Haha nice insult. Go steal some more games from developers who spend millions to try and entertain you.
WiiAwards 9 months ago
@WiiAwards
Yeah, poor poor developers, charging 60€ for an average playtime of 8 hours and visuals from 2004. I'm starting to cry about them, really.Wii has the biggest crapload of shitgames a console ever had. This is not entertaining, it's insulting. Oh, and who told you that i steal? I just backup my orignals :-)
MrPopular22 9 months ago
WiiAwards 9 months ago
@WiiAwards
So what? The Wii was released in 2006 and you can't count more than 20-25 really good games on it. Epic Mickey is shit, Manhunt 2 was on PS2 (UNCUT!),Zelda twilight was also on gamecube, Mario kart and Smash bros are almost the same games as the gamecube versions. Almost all really good games for the wii are coming from Nintendo, and there are not too much of them since 2006. It will take at least 10 pages if i start to count all the crapgames released on Wii.
MrPopular22 9 months ago
@MrPopular22
Name 20-25 good exclsuives on xbox and ps3? :)
And yes i know theres at least 500 shit wii games.
Oh and isnt halo remade from xbox? God Of War from ps1? CoD from xbox/ps2? etc.
Brawl and Mario Kart Wii are both way better then the previous games in the series.
WiiAwards 9 months ago
@WiiAwards well... i think goldeneye is kinda overrated -.- .. well its good for splitscreen... anyway... i BET most guys didnt see the wii game "The last Story" ... DUDE it has SICK graphics and effects and gameplay is AMAZING... its ashame its only japanese version available... but youi should DEFINETLY try it out man...even if you dont know shit bvout jap. i dont either... everyone should see this game live and THEN shit on wii and its graphics
Janezk7 8 months ago
@Janezk7 Dude last story is coming out in NA this year.
WiiAwards 8 months ago
@MrPopular22 Gladiator AD used to look better than ALL of them before it was changed to a crappy arcade game, where the graphics were watered down and the gore was taken out -_-.
NintendoDSVampire 10 months ago
@NintendoDSVampire Yeah, it looks worse, seriously why do people defend this peice of crap console. Bad games, outdated hardware and useless motion controls.
ViciousAlienKlown 3 months ago
@ViciousAlienKlown It speaks volumes that you're the one complaining about people defending a 'crap console', when you're the one taking your time to post such misguided and bias messages. Let me guess, you're in school. You lot seem to have that sort of mentality. Tell you what, how about you stick to your own chosen console, and let people who own their own play them and discuss them in peace. The Wii is outdated power-wise, but it was a fraction of the cost, and has hundreds of decent games.
tquinnathome1 3 months ago
@tquinnathome1 Why bother, seriously...the Wii is bowing out, it might sell ok this holiday. Besides the Wii was outdated before it even came out. A lot of people abandoned the console rather quickly because it didn't hold their interest and brought in new people but that happened to them as well, collected dust. Nintendo hurt themselves with the Wii and how they handled the games for it. It shows with the 3DS, no games and incomplete hardware....add-on analog stick anyone?
ViciousAlienKlown 3 months ago
@ViciousAlienKlown Wii is still going quite modestly a good 5 years after it's launch- and you're telling me it was outdated then? It's not all about graphics and power, but innovation. People like motion controls, it sells to a large audience and has genuinely brought some real good- FPS's just aren't the same without them, and Pllaystation have HAD to follow suit with the Move. The 3DS and other products are entirely irrelevant. We're talking about the highest selling 7th gen console here- Wii
tquinnathome1 3 months ago
Note to guy who uploaded this to YouTube: Conduit 2 supports WiiMotion+, not The Conduit.
sonicheroes777 1 year ago
the art direction was retarded, the doors on the streets level were like n64 and there were some fucking brick walls in the second floors full whit bump mapping, you are not going to contemplate the fucking brick walls, they should have put that effort on the walls insithe the buildings, specially were they are destroyed.
porkyminch01 1 year ago
artifical inteligence suck in this game
NikoBelic4 1 year ago
You know what I don"t get. How come most of the second party games on the wii have awesome graphics while alot of third part games have low graphics? Seriously. So far the only third party games on the wii that I seen with awesome graphics were The Conduit, Monster Hunter 3, and Sonic Unleashed.
jthejay01987 1 year ago
Julaaay , Julaaaay! oh Julay!
porkyminch01 2 years ago
HVS should team up with Valve to make a port of half life 2 for Wii.
sarahfaye910 2 years ago 5
I agree.
mobius1aic 2 years ago
it would work... at least the first half life 2... the newer ones where made for the 360 weren't they? if so, then, no... but the first one would...
TreyRust 2 years ago
@TreyRust
no
HeroOfWinds007 1 year ago
IF this game is really on sale at target for $15 (as says on N4G) ill buy it.
uncharted185 2 years ago
the water is really good in the game, with a little tweaking i think high voltage could make a potential bioshock port
buddysmithburg 2 years ago
I could see that working, if BigDaddy has the same shine on him as the weaponry on High Voltage's tech demo.
MetroidJunkie2007 2 years ago
it wont have motion plus support. online will have 12 instead of 16. but still, the best game online
adolf512 2 years ago
I got The Conduit the day it came out. That same day, my freind kept making fun of the wii's graphics.
I beat him over the head with the disk holder. XD
TerminalHawk 2 years ago 9
Umm.... my disc got stuck in the wii's disc holder.... it won't come out..... :(
s055623 2 years ago
Show him the first video on my favorites list and pause at 2:58 and he won't be laughing. You'll prove how good the wii graphics are!
solarwile 2 years ago
this footage is old as hell
Silencer711 2 years ago
what are you talking about?
look at the date, the footage from this video is only 6-7 months old
crosschain95 2 years ago
The footage is MUCH older than that. This posting is only recently.
shunkwugga 2 years ago
Yeah, it looks JUST LIKE Halo 2.
Not. Shittards really need to stop comparing the Cobnduit to halfassed, older Xbax games.
The Conduit not only looks great, but it plays great. Get over it fanboys.
LZSchneider 2 years ago 4
if only the wii version of the force unleashed had these graphics
maxwelproductions 2 years ago
i know, why do they make good games suck on the wii?
AeroZero21 2 years ago
I don't know
maxwelproductions 2 years ago
ps2 screwed bt3 up thats y bt4 is now on the 360/ps3 they never even used the wii 's true potential damn u ps2 and the wii is more powerful than ur ps2.
dbzprot 2 years ago 2
whoever says that Halo 2 has better graphics was lying, don't get me wrong, the Halo series is still awesome.
mightyguy345 2 years ago 15
@mightyguy345 but the game-play was better, I agree halo is just fighting hordes of enemies, but it has sandbox elements.
porkyminch01 1 year ago
@mightyguy345 half life 2>halo>the conduit.
jap0112 1 year ago
Its about time the wii lives up to its potential.
TheDarkLoneWolf 2 years ago 7
I know Really!
MTS31995 2 years ago
its really nice to see these videos as the game isnt even out yet so we can expect the actuall thing to be even better
:)
welshboi13 2 years ago
Isnt it on June 9th?
toonlink119 2 years ago 2
Oh, its in march? Awesome! I thought it was in 2 months!
Nice video, man :)
WiviV 3 years ago
Bad Graphics? lol, Conduit+Shooter game+Aliens that try yo kill you Equals Fun!!!
slowvidmaker517 3 years ago
this game is gonna be fantastic and its gonna be huge i cant wait
Grogan1988 3 years ago 4
i heard it might come out in may i hope i heard wrong and it is march
threj0760 3 years ago 5
the more i watch this and mad word the more i like it
nintindo4life333 3 years ago 2
Sorry there is also 3MBs texture memory on GPU.
But Nintendo itself has chosen not to provide intricate breakdowns for Wii's CPU and GPU.
But with the specs we have, we can asume that it is about as powerful as gamecube 2x(for tho´s who do not know, the gamecube is slightly more powerful then PS2).
gudnikristinn 3 years ago 4
Slightly? Resident Evil 4 on Gamecube embarrassed the Ps2 version with refraction, shadows, and light bloom, not to mention polygon counts. Look up "RESIDENT EVIL 4 Differences GC vs PS2" on Youtube.
MetroidJunkie2007 2 years ago
Fun fact:::: Leon from resident evil 4 (gamecube/wii) 10,000 polygons. thats 5 times more than the average character in the conduit.
buddysmithburg 2 years ago
I'm actually not surprised, given how much emphasis HVS placed on the effects, atleast the polygon counts don't appear to have suffered as much as certain effects-heavy Xbox 1 games like Chronicles of Riddick.
MetroidJunkie2007 2 years ago
HVS did go a little heavy on the enviroment mapping and bump mapping, their used on everything
buddysmithburg 2 years ago
All things considered, the other aspects of the graphics survived alot better than those certain effects heavy Xbox games.
MetroidJunkie2007 2 years ago
haha thats what i would do they did not however excel in art style unlike retro studios which painted a master peice when it came to metriod prime
Canadian789119 1 year ago
@buddysmithburg
fail The Conduit has bump mapping which makes the models look much better then any crap in RE4. Hell even comparing the two games is ridiculous.
HeroOfWinds007 1 year ago
@HeroOfWinds007 as the rules to the internet state, if you want to prove this factual you will need to provide a visual comparison between leon and any conduit character. and dont quote me but im pretty sure RE4 has bump mapping as well. but if you cant deliver visual evidence im gonna have to say your full of crap.
buddysmithburg 1 year ago
@buddysmithburg
Correction, both games had bump mapping (Though RE4 to a lesser extent), but only The Conduit had normal mapping, which is a technique specifically used to add details without using more polygons. Plus The Conduit had more effects and things going on (pretty much everything in this demo isn't in RE4). TC had better animations and textures then RE4 too.
And actually why don't you provide the source of how many polygons Leon's model has, as I cant find proof of that either.
HeroOfWinds007 1 year ago
@HeroOfWinds007 i sent you a link in a pm with the info on the polycount. and i think that it is impossible to prove if animations are better but im still going to have to side with RE4 on that one. but you got me on textures, the conduit probably has 4x the textures of RE4 but i have to say that they were applied poorly. if you dont try to look for detail in the conduit you wont find it.
buddysmithburg 1 year ago
@buddysmithburg
quote"So, Ill warn casual readers again the number of polygons used dont matter if they are not used well. This is simply a technical markerpost to try and identify what certain games used on certain hardware at a certain time. Supposedly Halo 2 used less polygons for Masterchief than Halo 1, and Ive heard that Call of Duty 4 used less polygons for the character models that CoD2 did I suspect this will due to relying more heavily on normal mapping to create the details. "
HeroOfWinds007 1 year ago
Hehe, the wii is 64bit:)..thats so funny..what is the Nintendo 64..I´ll give you a hint, 64bit.
Wii is:729 MHz IBM PowerPC "Broadway" CPU 243 MHz ATI "Hollywood" GPU
24MBs "main" 1T-SRAM 64MBs other 1T-SRAM
512MBs internal flash memory
Please look it up because your making an arse out of yourself.
gudnikristinn 3 years ago 6
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This game has about 1000 polygon,and the wall is crappy and the texture is bad.And the light and the visual was made by emphases which is going to make the game glitchy.
hineskamau08 3 years ago
Again you do not know nothing get out of here.
RandyWells89 3 years ago 5
Don't worry. He's gone. =) I've never read more BS from one guy in my whole life. Unbelievable.
AndrooSlash 3 years ago
I know, that guy competely stupid
RandyWells89 3 years ago
how would you know? personally i think this will have the best graphics yet on wii because they are trying really hard to specifically make ps3 and 360 graphics the best they can on the wii
motosportjunkie 3 years ago 5
jeez ur so fukin annoying
every single comment here is basically u trying to tell us how shitty this is.
escimobob1 3 years ago 4
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I know that you don't really understand what im saying because your not smart enough to,You dont know about hardware like how I do,I know plenty of people on youtube that knows about graphic chip like me,and we share information,thats why I know alot about these stuff.
hineskamau08 3 years ago
those people don,t know jack the only people that knows adout graphic chip are the game developvers, this game right here won't prove that let, because it still in pre-alpha stage. plus if you want to see how far Wii can go type in lair in wii engine on this site.
RandyWells89 3 years ago 4
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I came to set everything straight,because im tire od ya wii fan saying that the wii have better graphic than the ps2 when the ps2 have wayyy better graphic
hineskamau08 3 years ago
om sorry but u sir are a fucking retard
wiirockz1532 3 years ago 5
Right, hineskamau08, you need to learn how to present decent grammar in your posts, while you're at it, get some fucking common sense.
Find me a game on the PS2 that looks better than The Conduit. If you're going to spew shit like 'ps2 haz betta grafickz den teh wii lolol' without providing proof then get out of here.
Mahagawaga 3 years ago 5
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Gran turismo 4
hineskamau08 3 years ago
so you say PS2 have way better graphics than Wii lets see ps2 CPU 294MHz, Wii CPU 729MHz
ps2 GPU 147MHz, Wii 243MHz, ps2 performance 65,000,000 polygons per second, Wii 500,000,000 polygons per second, Yeah seem to me the Wii have better graphics
RandyWells89 3 years ago 4
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Your wrong the ps2 gpu is 500mhz and the ps2 cpu is 300mhz,look on my profile and go to my video its call sony and microsoft is lieing then look on the description on the video and you will see that ps2 have better graphic.
hineskamau08 3 years ago
ps2 gpu is not that high, like I said it chip is at 147 to 150mhz. look it up
RandyWells89 3 years ago
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The ps2 chip is not a smart chip but its a very fast and powerful chip,the ps2 graphic chip dont really proccess the effect and the shadows and the graphic,the gpu do,thats why sony make the gpu very strong.
hineskamau08 3 years ago
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Listen and learn this is someone that know alot about graphic chip,your information is wrong the ps2 can hold way more than 65 million polygon you dumbfuck.
ps2=2.4 gigapixel rate
150 million points
50 million spirits
75 million untextured triangles
37.5 million textured triangles
This is the reason why the ps2 has better graphic than the wii,because it has a mpeg image proccessing unit
hineskamau08 3 years ago
if you know about graphics chip so much tell me which is better emotion engine or Power PC
p.s. you need to look up Power PC that something that ps2 didn,t use, that is the reason why sony drop the emotion engine, and went with the Cell broadband for ps3, ps2 use the graphics synthesizer why the Wii use ATI Hollywood which is more powerful
RandyWells89 3 years ago 5
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the emotion engine is way powerful,the ps emotion engine is 128bit.The 128-Bit part of the title means that this chipset both processes information and sends it over a 128Bit bus,a Bus is the pathway between chips on a circuit board.A wide bus carries more bits of information and is thus faster than a narrower bus.You may think that your PC has a faster processor, but remember that the Emotion Engine has inherently faster 128-Bit processing and it is just a part of the overall ps2 power.
hineskamau08 3 years ago
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the emotion engine is way powerful,the ps2 emotion engine is 128bit.The 128-Bit part of the title means that this chipset both processes information and sends it over a 128Bit bus,a Bus is the pathway between chips on a circuit board.A wide bus carries more bits of information and is thus faster than a narrower bus.You may think that your PC has a faster processor, but remember that the Emotion Engine has inherently faster 128-Bit processing and it is just a part of the overall ps2 power.
hineskamau08 3 years ago
dude seriously you're just making look yourself as the dumbest person in the world how can ps2 have better graphics than wii ehen wii is extremely near of ps3 graphics if the game is worked properly like all nintendo classics including brawl and Mario Galaxy
HardcoreDude720 3 years ago
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they need to upgrade the textures in mario galaxy. it looks great, but have you ever went 1st person cam? not too good, anyways i think that if the wii is so much more powerful then the prev gen systems, then why is it that re4 wii is still one of the best looking games on wii?
uncharted185 2 years ago
I wouldn't really say that its one of best looking games, one of the better looking it is though
Its down to lazy developers more than the hardware. If more games looked like Galaxy or Corruption I would be very very happy.
However, if you compare Monster Hunter 3's graphics to the previous PS2 games you can see the difference
johncplight 2 years ago 2
Dude, the Wii has about 2.5 times better PPS than every previous gen console. There's NO DOUBT it has better graphics than the last gen consoles. The only reason there has been hardly any games proving it is because the developers think that since the Wii isn't HD, they don't have to worry about graphics. Graphics are determined completely by the developers attitude.
PearLock 2 years ago 17
Well, that, and it's arguably the easiest system to make a game for. Shovelware abound on the system, so it's really hard to separate the good stuff from the bad...the only surefire good on it is determined by the words "Produced by Nintendo." Other than that, it's really hard to find a decent game.
shunkwugga 2 years ago
There's PLENTY of awesome games on the Wii. I'll make a list if you want me to.
PearLock 2 years ago
My point is that the shovelware-to-awesomegame ratio is about 5 to 1.
shunkwugga 2 years ago
That still doesn't change the fact that the Wii has about as much hardcore games as the 360, because it's cheaper to make games on so the Wii's library in general, is way bigger than any other console.
PearLock 2 years ago
@shunkwugga 20:1
buddysmithburg 2 years ago
make one.
LowEndDream 2 years ago
@PearLock because is easier to make better effects on the otter consoles, its the law of minimum effort , maximum profit!, have you seen Disney Chanel? those hanna montanesque shows cost as much as Mexican novels and yet win millions !
porkyminch01 1 year ago
@PearLock
The Wii has the same guts as the Gamecube. Really.
BrainSeepsOut 1 year ago
@BrainSeepsOut Then I guess the PS3 has the same guts as the playstation. Really.
sibadude66 1 year ago
@BrainSeepsOut
False. If you actually took TWO seconds to look up the Wii's specs, you'd know it's capable of out-putting 4 times the polygon per second count as the original X-box. And it has exactly 5 times the RAM speed of the Gamecube... It's called 'research', faggot.
PearLock 1 year ago
@PearLock The original Xbox has more ram and a faster processor....the sad part is that the original Xbox came out in 2001 and the theres idiots boasting in 2011 how the Wii outperforms a 9 year old console. Thats like comparing the Sega Dreamcast to a Super Nintendo...pathetic. Whats worse is that the Wii has the worse game library, the final nail in its coffin. Besides, everyone bought a Kinect 360 instead of a Wii.
ViciousAlienKlown 1 year ago
@ViciousAlienKlown LOL I didnt
MileProwersFan 11 months ago
PearLock 9 months ago
@PearLock The Wii can only do 480p which last time I checked wasn't HD, the original Xbox had a hand full of games that actually put out 720p like Freedom Fighters. Either way the Wii sucks.
ViciousAlienKlown 1 year ago
the ps2 was the least powerful console of the last generation the gamecube was the best the wii is 3 times more powerful than a gamecube your point is terminated dumb fuck
VETorres13 2 years ago
i was talking to that dude that said the ps2 is more powerful than a wii
VETorres13 2 years ago 2
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actually the xbox was the most powerful system of the 3. it had the most RAM. a built in hdd and could display in 720p- something the wii still cant do!
uncharted185 2 years ago
lol thats so true, the only reason why people thought that the ps2 had better graphics was because of the games. If gamecube had GTA on it than it would had look better than the ps2 one. ex Resident Evil 4 for the ps2 vs the gamecube version
55tar93 2 years ago 5
The Xbox may have more powerful specs but the Gamecube was made more efficiently and benefits because of it. Factor 5 even made the claim that the Xbox would have trouble running Rogue Squadron which ran on the Gamecube with a very good framerate, despite so many things going on.
MetroidJunkie2007 2 years ago
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If you add up all the wii hardware and gpu and cpu and everything up together its 64bit overall,if you add up the ps2 hardware and the cpu and the gpu and everything up together its 128bit,that means the ps2 is twice as powerful as the wii.And the wii is very weak,the wii adaper is 6.5 volt and the ps2 adapter is 8.5 volt.
hineskamau08 3 years ago
this is a stupid qoute to what you saying here, if the Wii was 64 bit it won't be able to this handle this game that is shown here.
Wii is way more powerful than ps2, Wii can do 500 million polygons with visual and effects turn on, ps2 can only manage 15 million polygons with the visual and effect turn on but can manage 75 million polygons with visual&effect turn off that prove Power PC and ATI are much powerful
RandyWells89 3 years ago 8
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The wii is 64bit you dumb noob,I cannot believe that you dont know how much bit your console have to your playing.The wii is 64bit google it.And all of your fact is wrong,theres no game on the wii that has photorelistic game,I bet you cannot even name 1 photorelistic game on the wii.The wii hardware only can produce cartoon looking graphic.Read my previous comment because all of your opinion is wrong.
hineskamau08 3 years ago
And the wii still pwn the ps2 in power alone, get over it Wii gpu is 243 and the ps2 gpu is 147. you here talking about bits and bus which part not part of graphical power, the clock number on the the chip prove graphical power. you need to google it and it prove the wii is stronger.
RandyWells89 3 years ago 7
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Lol the clock number doesnt prove how the graphic is you dumbass lol,your a ediot.The hardware is what make the graphic good or bad,the ps2 has better hardware built inside of it than the wii.And yes power does count.Because it depend and how much poly the console can hold,Your information is wrong.And theres no way in hell the wii is stronger than the ps2,google it the ps2 is 128bit and the wii is 64bit.and the ps2 gpu is 500mhz and the cpu is 300mhz dumbfuck.
hineskamau08 3 years ago
read gudnikristinn's comment
troy1002x 2 years ago
the quantum3 is gonna change that :P
Cavcstudios 3 years ago 3
they haven't used bits since the playstation/nintendo 64 era
VETorres13 2 years ago
to: hineskamau08 !what the hell,are you fuckin crazy how in the fuck is the ps2 more powerful then the wii,dude the gamecube was more powerful then ps2,the gamecube had the best looking games last-gen and metriod prime 1 won the best graphics awards in 2003.dude the wii is about five time more powerful then ps2.you are fucking crazy.
lennell2007 2 years ago 6
lol the wii is 20x more powerful because the wii is 10x more powerful than the gamecube
55tar93 2 years ago 6
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And get the fuck outta here wii fan,you say the gamecube got better graphic than the wii right,can you give me proves why the gamecube have better graphic than the ps2 I bet you cant,and dont come up with resident evil 4 because that game was made on the gamecube engine then it scrap on the ps2 engine.Look at multiplatform games like svr 09 for the ps2 and wii and you will see that the ps2 one look wayyy bettter.The ps2 graphic is sharper and much better.
hineskamau08 3 years ago
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I mean "YOU SAY THE GAMECUBE got better GRAPHIC THAN THE (WII),I MEAN (ps2) SRRY.
hineskamau08 3 years ago
if you say so!! =)
AndrooSlash 3 years ago
Nice grafics
FischKopfD 3 years ago
wii motion?
Xxfatality91xX 3 years ago
shit it is being updated??? ...... i though it looks amazing already i wonder how it's gonna look after the update :D
wd376212 3 years ago 5
Also this game comes out in March.
Jiggyjoe1113 3 years ago
Thanks for that! Video updated =)
AndrooSlash 3 years ago
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Wow ya wii fan is very funny,this game doesnt have good graphic but the graphic is ok its not good,because the monster is jaggy if you pause the video on look at it,everything is jaggy if you pause it and look at it,the ps2 have wayyy better graphic than the shitty wii,look at project snowblind for the ps2,and look at gran turismo 4 for the ps2 and more.Theres no game for the wii that have graphic tht is close to those games.
hineskamau08 3 years ago
@Jiggyjoe1113 The Game Doesnt come out in march,it came out in july of 2009
iRandomZach 1 year ago
i heard the engines being updated
sora908 3 years ago 2
It is.
Jiggyjoe1113 3 years ago 2
water looks real nice
yosouf06 3 years ago 3
If there are going to be even better graphics than what this video shows, I am that much more excited for this game!
Jedifro24 3 years ago 3
In HD it will probably be cool
cardeecore 3 years ago 3
I heard in Shokio's new video there's been a major upgrade to the Quantum 3 Engine, so the game will only look better when the next video comes out.
BeastlyBeasto 3 years ago
Please point me to this video!! Also, what are his sources? I doubt it will look a lot better. Of course, there is always room for improvement. I doubt that this is ALL the Wii can do, But It probably is 85%. We'll see.
AndrooSlash 3 years ago
His sources? High Voltage them selves. If you want i'll PM you the vid.
omnislashvr13 3 years ago
See my info!!! I am linking people to his video. I've seen it and I'm believing it! Thanks anyways mate!
AndrooSlash 3 years ago
Yep. I just wish that HVS sell the engine to other developers. We need these graphics in every frickin Wii game.
AndrooSlash 3 years ago
this game has best wii graphics ever
xavierdswat 3 years ago