If you make an extended "Z" pattern, consisting of 3 straight line segments,
you can connect all the "dots"....but doing so requires the "dots" to be treated as geometric (circular) shapes, which have *areas*, instead of "dots" which are defined as points...If the dots are points, then there is no way do sole the puzzle with 3 straight connected lines...
That said, you can do it in 1 line, if folding the paper is allowed...
@11000010101 Yes it can be done with 3 straight lines that are connected. You just need to think even more outside the box. If you fail after trying for 1 week let me know.
@samvittighed Well, let's say I've been trying for a week, what would you tell me? The only way you can cover those nine dots with three lines is with three parallell lines, which of course are not connected. And no, you may not draw a slightly tilted line which still goes through the dots, that's cheating. It should go through the CENTER of the dots.
@11000010101 If you watch the video, you will the that the solution proposed does NOT go through the centers of the dots. Thus a solution with 3 lines also does not have to go through the centers. Thus you can make an extremely wide Z that will hit all 9 dots. Had the problem been posed as mathematical points, your concern would have been valid.
@samvittighed But the solution in the video would have worked even if the problem concerned mathematical points. If you start considering solutions including thicknesses valid, you can (as some have proposed) just as well make one really thick line going through all of the dots, solving the problem.
@XXCUTlEXX07 Although not explained very well in the video. There are rules. You can only use 4 lines. The lines MUST be continuous, and straight. You may NOT fold or curve the paper to finish the puzzle. There may be more but thats all I remember.
this isnt really fair because in the "connect the dots" sense, lines start and end at a dot, not go past them. when you do a connect the dots drawing, you dont go through the dots and have a bunch of crooked points like if you used this type of method.
the thing is knowing what they want someone to do is the hardest while the test is just plain dumb cause the dots are not conncted,the lines aren't really crossing from one dot to the other.
If this is allowed I can do it with 3 lines. if my the is extremely long (desirably infinitely long), the parallax angle will be extremely close to zero. I can just draw a "z" with 3 extremely long lines.
lol you must be retarted there is more than one way to connect the dots without lifting the pen and without the need to write outside of the bountries >.>
I guess that is the answer - mine was a capital E shape - the capital E shape, has 4 lines and my pencil didn't leave the paper, I just drew over a few lines
Why is it so difficult for someone clever like you (drawing lines and all this) to write a few lines without five typos? (two of them are made twice).
i swear i solved it in 4 second.))) if u think soo long 4 lines its really easy but u mast say 9 circle not dots or else u can do it with one line using big pencil.but if u say they re cirles it becomes real geometri problem
I have three real solutions and one that i thought would be nice but kind of cheating.
1st : Using 4 lines it can be done the way you have demonstrated although mine was another orientation.
2nd : Using 3 lines, if you take the dots as having a diameter then a straight line at a very slight angle can pass through the top line similarly with the other two lines to create a Z at a very large distance away.
3rd: Using 3 lines if you assume that the dots are singularities, ie. they have no diameter then 3 parallel straight lines going through each row will meet at infinity
A fourth one that i thought about but i think it is rubbish to be perfectly honest is if you assume that the dots are infinitessimal mass elements then a single line would curve around in a spiral until it reached the middle passing through all of them in a space-time like environment.
erm... concerning 3 lines solution.. of course it won't work with a theoretical dot..
ok. first line connects dots 1 2 n 3 almost horisontally (lil bit downwarding), then the line goes faaaaaaaar right, from there to dots 6,5,4 n going faaaar to the left. Then back again to dots 7,8,9. Such a weird zig-zag;)
@LeroyRifkin well actually no.... the only rules are: connect the dots with a maximum of 4 lines.... a hint is: think outside the box.... so i cut them out the box and and stack em OUTSIDE 'box'
with three line.. here how... start some where and do a " Z " but get so outside the box thats your line gonna be like " z " and more litte with long lines... so when you connect with 3 dot a lines they aren't gonna be straitch dot to dot...
" Z " the " / " will look like " -- " ... hard to explain but thats the only solution I get when I saw this message
@Diluxe22 it's the opposite schools have taught us to see shapes and resemblence in object's, limiting our creativity, if you hold a red square and ask someone what it is everyone says a square, when it's just the color red we've been taught to use symbolism everywhere, basically to use our left brain
Line #1. (Going up) Starting on the left side of the left dot. cross the middle left side dot in the middle and you should end up on the right side of the top dot. Continue as far up as you need to before coming down for line #2.
If one allows following the curvature of the earth, OR believes in the "donut" theory of the shape of the universe, you can do it with one line (acknowledging that a line goes on forever of course).
@capsBeatz Starting with the top of the top left dot, run a line through the middle of the second dot in the top line, then through the bottom of the third dot. Extend the line far enough so that you can reverse directions and hit the top of the third dot in the second row, the middle of the middle dot in the second row and the bottom of the first dot in the second row. Now extend that line far enough so that you can reverse directions again and do the same thing with the bottom row.
@capsBeatz You wind up having three slightly diagonal lines. The trick is that you have to extend the lines far enough before direction changes. Remember, top of the dot, middle of the next dot, then the bottom of the last dot in each row. It does work.
@rubbermaid69co U noob everyone can do that 9 dots trick with 3 lines ! but u aren't supposed to draw on your table because the paper would end for the 3 lines trick to work. Dumbass ! btw I can do it with 1 line can you top that ?
I know how to get all dots connect without touching other dots
Levana1230 4 days ago
I can do it with one line, just make it really wide so it covers all
Link4093 2 weeks ago
Make the letter E
kingboy868 2 weeks ago
i can do it with three lines
PolishR8 3 weeks ago
KUUL
STRUGLINGCHILD 3 weeks ago
i can do it in three lines
TOGSwatKing 3 weeks ago
If you make an extended "Z" pattern, consisting of 3 straight line segments,
you can connect all the "dots"....but doing so requires the "dots" to be treated as geometric (circular) shapes, which have *areas*, instead of "dots" which are defined as points...If the dots are points, then there is no way do sole the puzzle with 3 straight connected lines...
That said, you can do it in 1 line, if folding the paper is allowed...
AJtheory 4 weeks ago
or just pull 3 straight vertical lines and one more horizontal that will connect all three
cipiofficial 1 month ago
I've done this with 4 lines, can this really be done in 3 lines?
AJtheory 1 month ago
@AJtheory yes
paperboyproductions1 1 month ago
@AJtheory No, not with straight lines.
11000010101 1 month ago
@11000010101 Yes it can be done with 3 straight lines that are connected. You just need to think even more outside the box. If you fail after trying for 1 week let me know.
samvittighed 4 weeks ago
@samvittighed Well, let's say I've been trying for a week, what would you tell me? The only way you can cover those nine dots with three lines is with three parallell lines, which of course are not connected. And no, you may not draw a slightly tilted line which still goes through the dots, that's cheating. It should go through the CENTER of the dots.
11000010101 2 weeks ago
@11000010101 If you watch the video, you will the that the solution proposed does NOT go through the centers of the dots. Thus a solution with 3 lines also does not have to go through the centers. Thus you can make an extremely wide Z that will hit all 9 dots. Had the problem been posed as mathematical points, your concern would have been valid.
samvittighed 2 weeks ago
@samvittighed But the solution in the video would have worked even if the problem concerned mathematical points. If you start considering solutions including thicknesses valid, you can (as some have proposed) just as well make one really thick line going through all of the dots, solving the problem.
11000010101 1 week ago
@AJtheory yes
fireblek 4 weeks ago
poustaki
2020petros 1 month ago
this one is stupid.. of course you try to solve it INSIDE the dots
Shunsetsu2 2 months ago
man I found it in 10 minutes without looking at the solution!!!! yeah!!! :DDD
foibos899 3 months ago
wow`~
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Think outside the box? You've got to be shitting me... I may as well have just scribbled on the page and said it's one line...
CaelanMT 3 months ago
I can do it with 1 line, just hand me an extremely large thick marker.
ratzskinakie 3 months ago 4
you can do it in 3 lines
gixer750ws 3 months ago
just make an x and a + and ur done 0.O
XXCUTlEXX07 5 months ago
@XXCUTlEXX07 Although not explained very well in the video. There are rules. You can only use 4 lines. The lines MUST be continuous, and straight. You may NOT fold or curve the paper to finish the puzzle. There may be more but thats all I remember.
iSimplicityGaming 5 months ago
..So you can figure that out... but you can never figure the X in the box trick!
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chuck norris did it with 2 lines
1988kkkk 6 months ago
chuck norris did it with 2 lines
1988kkkk 6 months ago
i did it without going outside the box
britishbee292 6 months ago
I did it with 3.....
Fanatic048 6 months ago
Just use a giant marker
funnyman25able 6 months ago 3
man im good :)
mcdudly00 6 months ago
WTF BUGS!!
SeNdKoStAs 7 months ago
Well I got an IQ test who can tell me why its suggesting me to watch "Vaginal Childbirth" good luck.
DnB4WaCkO 7 months ago
that made me feel depressed.
good job.
PearlyPepsiPop 7 months ago
this isnt really fair because in the "connect the dots" sense, lines start and end at a dot, not go past them. when you do a connect the dots drawing, you dont go through the dots and have a bunch of crooked points like if you used this type of method.
toasty303 7 months ago
@toasty303 The lady said "think outside the box"...
DragonAurora 7 months ago
think lines?
thepicklebubble 7 months ago
the thing is knowing what they want someone to do is the hardest while the test is just plain dumb cause the dots are not conncted,the lines aren't really crossing from one dot to the other.
kay19833 7 months ago
there are other ways
155Maki 7 months ago
i did the same thing it was super easy!!
iiSkyee203 8 months ago
lol thats how i solved it too
sosag3 8 months ago
ooohhhh
LikeItsMiLast 8 months ago
Think outside the box, Use a paint brush the size of the 9 dots, So you hit them all in one line
mooman219 8 months ago 22
@mooman219 better still, splash the paint onto the paper. Ding ! Finished
ChristForever154 2 months ago
Now i feel stupid D:... BUTT MUNCH!!!
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left to right
up to down
up left to down right
up right to down left
imavocaloidfanyay 9 months ago
VERY COOL. I LIKES THAT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
loveme8269 9 months ago
@ zxxzxzxxzxz notice how the instructions say you cant lift ur pen
dcento93 9 months ago
@ zxxzxzxxzx notice how they say u cant lift ur pen from paper.
dcento93 9 months ago
i thoght of that but i didn't think it was aloud
hypershadics 9 months ago
think out of the box...
batipoulas 9 months ago
If this is accepted then why not just do an E?
zxxzxzxxzxz 9 months ago
@zxxzxzxxzxz You're not allowed to lift your pen or go back...
wayne8001123 9 months ago
If this is allowed I can do it with 3 lines. if my the is extremely long (desirably infinitely long), the parallax angle will be extremely close to zero. I can just draw a "z" with 3 extremely long lines.
ss11311086 9 months ago
i did this in 5th grade ;) and i completed it easy peasy you know
grymmatarmar 9 months ago
@grymmatarmar me too... but i didn't remember it at all :b but i was able to solved just had to think a little lol
martins4theway 9 months ago
@martins4theway yeah :P
grymmatarmar 9 months ago
you said "inpossible" it should be impossible. didn't your mom teacher you how to spell?
Sarsarchua 10 months ago
lol you must be retarted there is more than one way to connect the dots without lifting the pen and without the need to write outside of the bountries >.>
Emeengor 10 months ago
I call bull shit!!!
mirrorforce4 10 months ago
I guess that is the answer - mine was a capital E shape - the capital E shape, has 4 lines and my pencil didn't leave the paper, I just drew over a few lines
dizzo95 10 months ago
THOUGHT OF THAT EXACT SAME SOLUTION!
miani8 10 months ago
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Cookiemuncher90210 11 months ago
wow, i hope i'll bump in to this test somehow in the future :)
IIIIITHE1IIIII 11 months ago
that sucks.you just make the answer bigger!
kivalily 11 months ago
O_O
wow..
4NiM4Ti0N 11 months ago
that....that's gay...
inukag9 11 months ago
in soviet russia lines connect you
HueJazzz 11 months ago 65
i solved it, i just got 9 pencils, 1 for each line xD
MegaPandamusic 11 months ago
yeah, I got it. I do all of these simple problems because I don't have intuition.
returnoftheramble3 11 months ago
i swear i solved it in 4 second.))) if u think soo long 4 lines its really easy but u mast say 9 circle not dots or else u can do it with one line using big pencil.but if u say they re cirles it becomes real geometri problem
esraretin 11 months ago
@esraretin Even if they are dots, they have a particular gap between them so you need a something big to cever them all anyway ^^.
DemonikOu 11 months ago
@DemonikOu i i didnt get it...i think the problem should be so (my english is not so good)
1-there re 9 circles
2-with 4 line ,every line should be connected at least with other one from its starting or finishing point
solution is zigzag with acceptable angle and length (lines)
esraretin 11 months ago
@DemonikOu 2- should be 3 line not 4 line sorry
esraretin 11 months ago
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esraretin 11 months ago
think ouside.
whitepurpleisland 1 year ago
OMG THIS IS SO EASY WITH 4 !!!
DO THAT WITH 3 !!!
GRoseaHelpMe 1 year ago
chuck norris don't even need to draw one line to solve this. it freaks out and solves itself at the sight of chuck.
Eliashedlund 1 year ago
Another solution... put the dots on the cardboard of the inside of the toilet paper roll.... you get the rest. :)
thumbs up mindfreaks XD
AnEyeOfTheOpenMind 1 year ago
to do this with 3,just draw a circle (1 line)around the first 8/the outside
then do a line or an x.wow,i did it with 2 lines :D
narutochatrommfan 1 year ago
@narutochatrommfan they said straight lines moron
a circle isn't straight
maximoto275 1 year ago
@maximoto275 oh,i forgoto type jke lolz >:0
narutochatrommfan 1 year ago
Chuck Norris can connect 1,000,000 Dots with only 1 kick
noobechi 1 year ago
Just draw the 9 dots in a line!!
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noobechi 1 year ago
you can't solve this with less than 4 unless you consider dots as big spots (with diameter) not just a dot.
ameerinho10 1 year ago
The lines have to be out from the box. I can explain that but it's long yeah..
whatloaf2009 1 year ago
I can do it within the boundaries.
boogioogigoof 1 year ago
I have three real solutions and one that i thought would be nice but kind of cheating.
1st : Using 4 lines it can be done the way you have demonstrated although mine was another orientation.
2nd : Using 3 lines, if you take the dots as having a diameter then a straight line at a very slight angle can pass through the top line similarly with the other two lines to create a Z at a very large distance away.
BoshCraver 1 year ago
3rd: Using 3 lines if you assume that the dots are singularities, ie. they have no diameter then 3 parallel straight lines going through each row will meet at infinity
A fourth one that i thought about but i think it is rubbish to be perfectly honest is if you assume that the dots are infinitessimal mass elements then a single line would curve around in a spiral until it reached the middle passing through all of them in a space-time like environment.
BoshCraver 1 year ago
i dID iT
aLl wIth 1.... buT it was a vEry VERY FAT one
victorzvyagin360 1 year ago
Chuck Norris can solve it just with ONE!!!!!
GhostFreakGr 1 year ago
I've solved it but not this way :P:P
7Kounou7 1 year ago
HAHA I know how to do it with 3 lines =P
CantStop0708 1 year ago
Marica
Eredora 1 year ago
chuck norris can do it with 1... o_o line
MrPawel0 1 year ago
pro-minds.eu
ew7810 1 year ago
erm... concerning 3 lines solution.. of course it won't work with a theoretical dot..
ok. first line connects dots 1 2 n 3 almost horisontally (lil bit downwarding), then the line goes faaaaaaaar right, from there to dots 6,5,4 n going faaaar to the left. Then back again to dots 7,8,9. Such a weird zig-zag;)
pipko69 1 year ago
chuck norris can do that with in 0 lines he just needs to look at it
Grayhams11 1 year ago
THATS WICKED COOCOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL. ps i have turrets :}}}}}}
berthalicia23 1 year ago
@berthalicia23 HA
patriotsmakemesick 1 year ago
well that kinda defeats the purpose. I mean hell I could bend any IQ question and then get it "right" and then I'd be thought of as a genius.
DaFawky 1 year ago
i did it with no lines:) just print it out and use a scissor to cut them out.... after that: stack em:)
Shoarma2 1 year ago 36
@Shoarma2 LMAO!
saywat009 1 year ago
@Shoarma2 that's cheating
LeroyRifkin 8 months ago
@LeroyRifkin well actually no.... the only rules are: connect the dots with a maximum of 4 lines.... a hint is: think outside the box.... so i cut them out the box and and stack em OUTSIDE 'box'
Shoarma2 8 months ago
@Shoarma2 you're a gentleman and a scholar
LeroyRifkin 8 months ago
lol
ChikoHD 1 year ago
i can see four different ways to solve this problem. how is this hard!
joeygraha1 1 year ago
NICE ;)
wwecwwf1 1 year ago
with three line.. here how... start some where and do a " Z " but get so outside the box thats your line gonna be like " z " and more litte with long lines... so when you connect with 3 dot a lines they aren't gonna be straitch dot to dot...
" Z " the " / " will look like " -- " ... hard to explain but thats the only solution I get when I saw this message
KindaMost 1 year ago
its all down to how you interpret the question, isnt it?
b0bthekillar 1 year ago
Y does line get in no dot!!!?
blizzard987654321 1 year ago
I did it in 0 lines. I used curves. Is that okay!? XD
JordanMetroidManiac 1 year ago
I did it with one, i folded the paper so you can connect all 9 dots in one line
nsdvjp 1 year ago 3
fuk thinking outside the box thats what society wants us to do!!
Diluxe22 1 year ago
@Diluxe22 it's the opposite schools have taught us to see shapes and resemblence in object's, limiting our creativity, if you hold a red square and ask someone what it is everyone says a square, when it's just the color red we've been taught to use symbolism everywhere, basically to use our left brain
1xDRCx 1 year ago
is that allowed?
Xmastermusty 1 year ago
@Xmastermusty thats what im sayin it must be a trick question hahaha thats the only way
MrKANO19 1 year ago
wanna know how to do it in 3? dont connect the lines. just cross out 3 dots with one line each
MultiStickATG 1 year ago
@MultiStickATG You can't lift your pencil.
banifacio 1 year ago
you know how to solve it but you can't write "impossible" correctly
Gixerash 1 year ago
Three Line Solutioni. USE LARGE "N".
Line #1. (Going up) Starting on the left side of the left dot. cross the middle left side dot in the middle and you should end up on the right side of the top dot. Continue as far up as you need to before coming down for line #2.
rubbermaid69co 1 year ago
explanation. boundaries.
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ohitzjoey 1 year ago
i thought no crossing line
Playiie15 1 year ago
my teacher taught me before but i ccouldnt remember... then when i see the ans i was like : HOW COULD I FORGET!@!@
Skippiebunnyx3 1 year ago
haha, I love this trick, but its no fun because I got it on my first try o.o
XxEMOtionalEmxX 1 year ago
Fold the paper over so all dots overlap, then push through needle and thread.
MegaDoofdoof 1 year ago
I can do it with one
MegaDoofdoof 1 year ago
GOSH DUHHHHH!!!
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You can do it with one line, just use a really big pencil...
thewatercolour 1 year ago
If one allows following the curvature of the earth, OR believes in the "donut" theory of the shape of the universe, you can do it with one line (acknowledging that a line goes on forever of course).
Sellasella123 1 year ago
This was grade 4 trick very easy
StephensAccountify 1 year ago
hahaha sneaky bastard
KezVanBeck 1 year ago
Using a z shape, you can do it with just three lines.
m8s4lif 1 year ago
@m8s4lif uhh then you'd miss two dots
capsBeatz 1 year ago
@capsBeatz Starting with the top of the top left dot, run a line through the middle of the second dot in the top line, then through the bottom of the third dot. Extend the line far enough so that you can reverse directions and hit the top of the third dot in the second row, the middle of the middle dot in the second row and the bottom of the first dot in the second row. Now extend that line far enough so that you can reverse directions again and do the same thing with the bottom row.
m8s4lif 1 year ago
@capsBeatz You wind up having three slightly diagonal lines. The trick is that you have to extend the lines far enough before direction changes. Remember, top of the dot, middle of the next dot, then the bottom of the last dot in each row. It does work.
m8s4lif 1 year ago
THANKSSSSSSSS
julioelmaximo 1 year ago
i knew it was something like this :p
Metalscavenger 1 year ago
its so simple how could u not get it no one ever said u cant go outside the lines that was not mind boggling
maddog4261 1 year ago
Bravo
sirlaurengitis 1 year ago
Bravo
sirlaurengitis 1 year ago
wow. i wld not of figured that out
5 stars
8473873 1 year ago
I knew this since fourth grade...
Fucktard107 1 year ago
If I draw the 9 dots really tiny, I can use one line, a wide marker, to cover them all.
My1968Impala 1 year ago 56
@My1968Impala
lol nice 1 ;) that's what i call thinking out of the box
christiaan81music 1 year ago
@My1968Impala I THOUTH OF IT FIRST! :-D
MrGuitaraddict1 10 months ago
@My1968Impala I THOUGHT OF IT FIRST! :-D
MrGuitaraddict1 10 months ago
I did it with 3 straight lines but was figuring out how to do 4. lol
hiyy12 1 year ago
i did it like this I_I_I ...connected them all, 4 straight lines and didnt take pen off the paper, but i guess we were not allowed to retrace lines
tigerfedor 1 year ago
Isn't that 6 lines?
uBeR1337gUy 1 year ago
there is an easier way
xXquicksc0pedXx 1 year ago
I just did a big X trhen two //
supermario64777 2 years ago
you have to do it without takign ur pen off the paper
edwining 1 year ago
"Think outside of the box."
How I didn't figure that out?
Mesina2 2 years ago 2
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I solved it in seconds, really easy.
Oxstayne 2 years ago
You can do it with one line, just use a really big pencil...
Notsorandomnumbers 2 years ago 133
hahahahahahahahaha just dip the whole paper in lead
lebscafe171 2 years ago 7
@Notsorandomnumbers thats what i did. i did it with one big fat line.
RemedyIn 1 year ago
@Notsorandomnumbers LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL
Solatee 1 year ago
so is this the only way that is possible? or is there more than one way to do it?
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harryboy001 2 years ago
i did it with 1!!!!
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curly line .
icannotspeak 2 years ago 5
the puzzle is using a straight line
davidng5000 2 years ago 3
wow no wonder i never got it. the person testing me said that the lines could not go past the dots.
ultradumbass 2 years ago
I DID IT WITH 3.
rubbermaid69co 2 years ago 13
rubbermaid69co:
Please share!!!
macias9133 2 years ago 9
I did with 2....... jk lol
b105h0ckMan 2 years ago
@rubbermaid69co I did it without drawing any lines at all....that's how good I am
MyMadra 1 year ago
@rubbermaid69co
You cant take the pen off the paper
blingbam404 1 year ago
@rubbermaid69co me either!!
babidoll1998 1 year ago
@rubbermaid69co U noob everyone can do that 9 dots trick with 3 lines ! but u aren't supposed to draw on your table because the paper would end for the 3 lines trick to work. Dumbass ! btw I can do it with 1 line can you top that ?
MUnknownGI 1 year ago
Chuck Norris can connect 1,000,000 Dots with only 1 kick
noobechi 1 year ago
That's funny, because when i took this test i wasn't able to go outside the perameter of the dots.
Tear137 2 years ago 3
i stopped
i got down
and i ROFL!
MrThejohn23 2 years ago
wtf? you were NOT supposed to cross the lines?
hejhhopp 2 years ago 2
@hejhhopp If you where not supose to cross the lines it would be impossible.
PeonProduction 2 years ago 2
yes, thats why i wanted to see the solutioun =)
hejhhopp 2 years ago