How can idiots like this attract followers? That is my question. If the economy were not depressed, fools like this would not even be heard except by their low iq followers. People like this, who graduate from bogus "christian" universities, are truly an insult to America and all it stands for!!!
My rule of thumb, and it always proves correct, is that any candidate running as a devout Christian & wants to impose their brand of Christianity on others, are ALWAYS the most morally bankrupt scumbags and should never be trusted!
George W Bush ran as a "devout born-again Christian" and single-handedly removed any moral authority the USA once had. Starting a for-profit war & a homo-erotic torture program, Bush & the amoral shit-stains he associates with makes Charles Manson look respectable!
American Family Association=Load of Crap. They are undermining the constitution via the 1st amendment by attempting to ban books and trying to keep any mosques whatsoever from being built in America anymore. They preach tolerance, then boycott Home Depot because home depot sponsored gay rights and gay pride parades.
Basically, the AFA is the organization of master Dick move makers.
If the Ataturk dam is shut off, stopping the flow of water, so that this army can cross from the east, then the prophecy will be fulfilled. This was never possible prior to 1990. Pretty simple. The Bible says that Israel would reform as a nation, the Jews would return, and that Israel will not be defeated again. Multiple nations came against tiny Israel in 1948,1967,1973 and she is still standing. Can you name another nation in history that has reformed after approx. 2000 years? You cannot.
@TXatheist Actually, Bible prophecy has been fulfilled recently at an alarming rate. These are prophecies which were not fulfilled for 100s of years, but are being fulfilled in our lifetimes (i.e. Israel becoming a nation again in 1948). You might read Ezekiel 38, 39 to see how the nations are lining up for the war of Gog and Magog. The Ataturk dam was built in 1990 which will allow the fulfillment of Revelation 16:12 (the drying up of the Euphrates river). I could go on and on. Get right.
@pottershand Alarming rate? Bull. That israel thing is as vague as saying they will move to all areas of the planet and saying because man can use airplanes that's the same thing. A man building a dam is not the river drying up, it's man shutting off the water. If I say my house will be destroyed and then I hire a demolition team that doesn't count because man did it.
@SwampDog1957 I wish that were the definition of racist but since no republican/redneck can win an argument against a liberal there are plenty of racists/republicans.
@Brucev7 Wrong, the early church plagiarized the legend from Sol Invictus just like they plagiarized a risen savior god myth from Horus and Mithra to invent the jesus myth. christianity was the pagan religion until Constantine declared it the official religion in the 4th century. I bet your leaders failed to mention that also.
@TXatheist Still not the issue. Historical evidence is the early church transformed it into a Christian celebration of the birth of the Savior and Lord.
@Brucev7 Yes, the reason for the season is Sol Invictus, that is the issue you originally commented. Once again, yes, the early church plagiarized dec 25 from sol Invictus as something related to the mythical jc. Mirthra and Horus were earlier savior's and lords before jesus got the title from greek mythology writers when making up the bible.
@Brucev7 Actually, christians are misinformed when they deny the jesus myth didn't come from Horus, Hercules and MIthra. See any mythology department at a public university and not some fundamentalist at equip.
@Brucev7 You'd think the idea of being born of a virgin would be a worn out canard but people still believe this stuff and can't see the truth. Mithra was born of a virgin, that's where the jesus legend stole the idea and when you plagiarize you change the story slightly but the rock idea still shows up in Matt 16:18 slightly altered. That's how plagiarism works. Swallowed by a fish? Like Jonah and the whale fairy tale right there in the bible.
@Brucev7 I must be using the bible as bait cause it catches sucker fishes real well. Your god is imaginary and the bible is simply a borrowed fairy tale and you can't deal with that reality.
@TXatheist Not the issue. Can't deny evidence, still being unearthed with each turn of the shovel. A plethora of Historical and Geographical. But then again, History and Geography are probably myths to you as well. You probably do not believe in Libraries or Text books either.
@Brucev7 Evidence? Other than tribes and cities the bible is not been shown to be historical. I don't believe in libraries? Try going to the mythology section next time and read Mithra and Horus stories and then the jesus myth story.
@Brucev7 Religion is poison. Under the "God is Love" banner it divides and dehumanizes people. They are all religions of war. Even Buddhism was co-opted into Shintoism to justify Japanese aggression..
@TheManray05 It can be, and it depends on which one. Also if executed outside of God's commands. Actually Atheists, Secular Humanists, Pagans, dehumanize people. The Christian Faith, tells each one to love each other, to edify, build up, take care of one another. Yes, Buddhists are fighting in Thailand. A Missionary came and spoke about this and it is in the News as well.
@Brucev7 The atheists I've met were the kindest people who knew how to be moral without needing to believe in myths and fairy tales. Some of the Christians I grew up with were greedy, mean and soulless. There are good people among secular humanists (that label is ridiculous) and Christians. Just because you go to church doesn't make you a good person just as going into your garage doesn't mnake you a car.. The BTK serial killer was a deacon in his church.
@TheManray05 The Atheists I meet are very angry people. Lacking in God's love and kindness. Needing to follow God's Morals, since that is where they came from. I have met so many kind Christians over the years. But when meeting unbelievers, they are cold, hard, uncaring. Yes, being saved is about turning your life over to God and living a Christian life. Thankfully Millions have. Otherwise, the world would be in a much, much worse position than it is.
@Brucev7 God'sl ove and kindness seems reserved for those who have a strange definition of both. I've seen judgement and indifference and even cruelty from many who call themselves Christan. You seem to parrot beliefs about others based upon your prejudice- arheists and secular humanists (I've never heard anyone describe themselves as a secular humanist.) have the same characteristics as Christians as it also is a form of ideology. Just as Christianity is an ideology. I see no difference.
@TheManray05 And your not? Once your open you rmind and heart, you will see for the fist time. What foundation, Doctrine does a Atheist use? Each to their own?
@Brucev7 The contrast here is the "prosperity gospel" (Jesus wants me to be rich!) which has become so popular. Tell me how that fits into Christian doctrine? I have met wonderful Christians who actually exhibit kindness and genuine decency. I've met many more that don't. Same with those who identify as athiests. You over-generalize and act as if your Christian belief gives you some moral superiority. It doesn't.
@TheManray05 You got it Toyota. Doesn't. But it is Christians that made major contributions in Science, built Hospitals, brought Medicine into areas no one would go into to, established charities, Churches with Benevolent Funds to help the needy. I have met far more Christians that would at least pray for others. Open your closed heart and mind.
@Brucev7 You failed to answer the question and instead extolled the benefits of Christian contributions. There have been many contributions by Christians. On the other hand "Christian Science" - (not the religious group by that name) seems to present "intelligent design" and creationism as valid theories. Even the theorist who presented uintelligent design has come out against the Christians use of this theory for their own purposes.
@Brucev7 You don't seem to be able to objectively view anything without the rose colored Christian glasses you wear. Take your own advice and open YOUR mind. I'm not interested in debating you. Christian Science? Laughable.
@TheManray05 You aren't interested in learning. Of course a person who is knowledgeable of a subject is going to speak with such. Don't be irrational.
@Brucev7 I am very interested in learning. I am well read and educated. You don't offer anything but your biased view of the world based upon your religious beliefs. How presumptuous of you that you offer anything that would be considered "learning". Go and pontificate to someone else. I am neither your project not your convert. You aren't knowledgeable. You're an ideologue. (look it up)
@Brucev7 The more dogmatic Christians are the less intelligent I find them. Theology and God as you define it is sanctimonious preaching and empty slogans. I have no idea what "Indwelt" was supposed to mean, but in future sentence contstruction use the contraction "you're".(as in you are) You are incorrectly using "your" It makes you seem uneducated in grammar, sentence structure and the english language, Preaching and converting is not your strong point. Sit quietly in a pew.
@TheManray05 Nothing wrong with dogma as long as it follows Christian Orthodox Doctrine. Sanctimonious, as has been pointed out, by a closed mind. Not a preacher, an Apologist. Your a dancer. You dance around what you are not knowledgeable in. It would be more intelligent to just say I do not have the knowledge of that or have not studied that. And yes, thank you for the tip on the usage of the word "your" and "you're."
@Brucev7 I am completely uninterested in Christian orthodox doctruine. You're (see, it CAN be used properly!) welcome for the tip on the use of "you're". You ignored it as you once again misused it. The Dalai Lama said "my religion is kindness". I doubt you could say the same. Read Bill Moyers, a Baptist minister with a wonderful intellect.. The two, religion and intellect, aren't mutually exclusive. You vastly overestimate your "knowledge".
@TheManray05 Yes, don't have a "religion." Religion always falls short. This is a common error by unbelievers to lump faith and religion in together.A misunderstanding. Know about Moyers, tends to stray from Biblical principals.
@Brucev7 ? I wasn't implying religion always falls short. I just find many supposed Christians do. Your implication that I'm an "unbeliever" says more about you than I. You're very presumptuous. I haven't said either way whether I am Christian or not.
It's really none of your business. I do go to a church. Obviously not the same denomination as you adhere to. You seem a very small and narrow minded man.
@TheManray05 Except, you argue, not supporting the faith, speak of your feelings of perceived shortfalls in religion. By thy fruit, you do not reveal a clear understanding of the Holy Bible or the God who gave that to His children. A Christian is supposed to be transparent, not hiding their faith. As the Holy scriptures say, 'How can they hear if they are not told?' Not the issue. You seem to possess a stubborn mindset to the commands and principles of Jehovah.
@Brucev7 Faith is personal to me.. My sister is lesbian. I saw rhe disgraceful treatment she received from our church. As a lesbian, she was reviled and rejected by people who claimed Go was love. Strangely, she is a minister. She teaches in a seminary. She found a church that loved her the way God made her. She is the kindest and most forgiving person I''ve ever encountered. Due to this my family changed churches. We are much happier with people who love everyone without judgement.
@TheManray05 She must repent. God is clear on His command about Homosexuality. A true follower of Christ responds in obedience and reverence to a Holy God who created them. And yes, I have siblings who have also made the same choice. It was not in bearing fruit that the church treated your sister. They should have spoken and taught her God's instructions in the Bible, in gentleness and kindness as Paul said.
@Brucev7 God, nor Jesus wrote the bible. Jesus never said one word about homosexuality. Jesus' command was we were "to love one another". You must repent for your judgement. My sister is perfect as she is. You are exactly the reason why we changed churches. Go back to your church and beg forgiveness. Judge not lest ye be judged. It was not her choice. She is exactly as she was meant to be. I'm sure your siblings want nothing to do with you. Your loss.
@TheManray05 Oh yes He did. Rev 21 Also, God repeatedly condemns Homosexuality, not once approving it, nor a part of His divine and perfect plan. Jesus being God's Son, the 2nd person of the triune, is obedient to the Father. Yes, we are to first love God w/ all out heart and mind, then love each other. This does not suspend any other command or part of God's plan.
@TheManray05 Keep running away from the truth. You will never have the fullness that God has ordained. No, all that run from God, living their self interests, miss out on a great deal, including a closeness to God. God can not look upon sin, thus it is those who choose their own sin over His love and divine plan.
@Brucev7 BTW - At our former church, gentleness and kindness was not the response. It was hatred and cruelty towards my sister. We choose to be Christian, we do not choose to be straight. It is who we are. My sister did not choose to be lesbian. It is who she is. The church we left 15 years ago, the evangelical Lutherans, have changed their position on gay people. They no longer advocate condemnation of gay people and welcome them into the church.
@TheManray05 You made that clear. I don't if it was that for w/ every member, maybe ignorance of the scriptures. Then you do not know the Holy Scriptures nor revere God. You are stubborn in your sin and self interest. You must repent. We dislike the sin, but love the sinner. Helping to lead an unrepentant sinner w/ the HS, to repentance and obedience to God. Jesus has made it clear if His church is lukewarm, he will spit them out, take their candlestick.
@TheManray05 BTW-Where did Jesus Christ, Yeshua, speak about Pedophilia? Arson? Rape? The Bible is an outline, not a book that details every sin that we can not commit. Just as are the Ten Commandments. But a redeemed person, a child of God, knows what is sin and what isn't. the HS will at least convict them to warn them before God chastens, reproves them.
@Brucev7 God didn't write the Bible. It was written by men. It has been altered and translated from the original text,, Mr "supposed scholar and Christian". you're Christian in name only. You reap what you sow. You give religion a bad name. You are not worthy of kindness as you exhibit none towards those Jesus would most certainly defend as his children..My sister is 500 times the person and Christian you will ever be, could ever aspire to be, or hope to achieve. Go to hell.
@TheManray05 Incorrect. the Bible is God's Holy inspired Word. It was translated by men under the direction of the HS. You still don't get it. It's not about religion.
2 Timothy 4:3
For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears;
@Brucev7 o it isn't. It wasn't written by Jesus either. Who are you to asay, were you there? Another insane person who hides behind their religion to excuse their mental illness. My sister is closer to God and more human than you will ever hope to become. You are a horrible person. The Bible also says we are to have slaves! Do you have a slave? Huh? If you don't then you are defying God, according to your theology!
@TheManray05 2 Timothy 3 1This know also, that in the last days perilous times shall come. 2For men shall be lovers of their own selves, covetous, boasters, proud, blasphemers, disobedient to parents, unthankful, unholy, 3Without natural affection, trucebreakers, false accusers, incontinent, fierce, despisers of those that are good, 4Traitors, heady, highminded, lovers of pleasures more than lovers of God; 5Having a form of godliness, but denying the power thereof: from such turn aw
16 He writes the same way in all his letters, speaking in them of these matters. His letters contain some things that are hard to understand, which ignorant and unstable people distort, as they do the other Scriptures, to their own destruction.
@Brucev7 "which ignorant and unstable people distort", Pay attention to that line as it IS YOU. Ignorant and unstable. Particularly unstable. Get help.
@Brucev7 You're a zealot. You only offer condemnation and judgement. There are many things written in the bible that are not tolerated in society yet you fail to address those - do you have slaves? Yes or No?.
As I said, My sister is 500 times the Christian you will ever be. You are the example of why people Hate religion. What you claim to be and whta you are are two different thing. Have you been evaluated for insanity? You are insane.
@Brucev7 You have no heart, no soul and no mind. Hide in your church and your interpretation of your scripture. and they can reinforce your hatred. That is all you offer. I chose love. I'm sorry you didn't. We don't need you. Jesus would want nothing to do with you.
@TheManray05 You can not see. It is as it is written. Sorry, I have Him. I repented of my sinful, selfish life and allowed Yeshua His rightful place on the throne. Do it now before it's too late sinner. Stop hiding behind your sin you love.
@TheManray05 That's alright. You are affirming my faith when you insult. God does love you and your sister. But He can not look on unnatural affection. Repent for the kingdom is nigh!
@TXatheist I def wouldnt say that is false advertisement, simply because many people do take Dec 25 as a day to celebrate the life of Christ. If ppl don't know that Jesus was not actually born on that day, then maybe they should read their Bibles more. Just because my birthday is Nov 23rd and I chose to celebrate it on the following weekend every yr, does that make it wrong? Am I falsely advertising my invitations when I ask for people to come celebrate on a day that is not actually my b-day?
@Coraboo23 Exactly, the church has refused to come out and say December 25 has nothing to do with jc's birth. Reading the bible more isn't going to help because there is no evidence for jc at all. Are you telling people your birthday is really Nov 23 or the 30th? One is false and one is true just like jc and 12/25
@TXatheist I am not here to argue nor to debate. But you can not put the "Church" on a one-sided scale bias opinion. At my church I am taught to walk in love. Also they do not teach us that Christ's bday is the 25th. If I choose to celebrate his life on a certain day each yr, thats my business. No need to debate against it. It's not like Im going around lying to ppl and saying "JC was born on this day so yu must celebrate."
@Coraboo23 I'm here to argue or debate either. I can put the church in a category of deceptive advertising since not only is dec 25 not the mythical jc's birthday but the bible is plagiarized mythology and god is just imaginary, no debate on that at all. Again, this video is about AFA who does false advertise and that's the point of the video, not that you have an imaginary friend, again not a lie.
@Coraboo23 I found christ...he's an imaginary friend in a fairy tale called the bible. Pray all you want, every intercessory prayer study has shown it's useless, ohh ye of too much gullibility.
@Coraboo23 Like the value of false advertising? Like when they sell buttons and stickers that say keep the Christ in christmas when December 25 has nothing to do with christ.
@1grandmajoyce Our calendars only acknowledge the violation of the separation of church and state by giving one religion a holiday when Dec 25 is really about Sol Invictus and not the mythical jc. I admit there are parables in the bible that can be used and that's why Thomas Jefferson made the jefferson bible. I'm waiting for a xian to admit jesus and god are just myths.
Like the salem witch trials in America or Inquisition or crusades or jim jones, branch davidians nor heaven's gate. I also think you should explain that greeks merely came up with their books much later and not until Constantine declared xianity the official religion did Mithraism die out and had that not happened america would be mithra worshippers and not jc worshippers.
will you also teach what people don't believe? No one in my family believes serpents can talk nor that men can rise after 3 days from a grave? I think if you don't you are contradicting physics and reptile characteristics. That there was no ark or flood during homosapien's era.
saved, I get your point but to teach the bible AS historical events is my problem. If you think Genesis for example IS actual history you aren't teaching just religion, you are teaching false history.
Hmm.I am completly Netural in these kinds of matters.I belive that though some of the things the AFA are fighting against are wrong,it is the personal choice of the person,so thereby choosing to do something can lead to a Mass Effect(I love that game) of opinions thrown at you/group from a association.
Also the AFA is taking things WAY to seriously.Every action they are doing is basically saying that they are Anti-Homo People,Anti-Semitism,ect.Please excuse my bad vocabulary,im only 11.
I'm a 9th grader and i think here is nothing wrong with teaching religion at school. That is exactly what our school does, we learn about all religions and are taught that there is no superior religion and that you are entitled to whatever you believe.
unrefine, keep in mind some parents are atheists and want religion taught in their manner. I don't want my kid to be taught the world was flooded and noah made an ark to survive when that didn't happen.
fuck the afa they are fuckin retarded they are just a bunch of old 40 -60 year old fucks who are anti-gay.I also read that they have sued a bunch of companies because they sometimes include gay people in their ads or gay references they have even taken it as far as taking out ads in newspapapers saying that being gay is a sin they also tried to ban the movie cartoon shark tale because "it encourages children to be gay" i can almost assure you everyone in the afa are republican
Right on! I'm gonna tell them the same thing, and while they keep Christmas out of school and in church, perhaps we can persuade them to do the same thing with the Jesus myth. Jesus in school is like putting SANTA CLAUS or the tooth fairy in school because it is mythology of the same IGNORANT level. These hysterical Christians need to take a little time and instead of being 'Born Again', just GROW the FUCK UP!
Im sorry but I,m am persueded other wise im sorry but your blacket statement "Genesis is dead wrong" doesnt convince anyone. The Irrefutable fact is that as time goes on more and more proof and evidence to creation and soforth is not so easily dismissed.
I don't deny you aren't persuaded. Most xians don't care about admitting Genesis is wrong. The fact is with more and more time we realize god is a plagiarized mythical being and the bible is completely wrong beyond a few tribes and cities. Do you think god made woman out of a rib as Genesis states? Sorry, zero evidence but 100% faith because it's not true.
Why? Culture wars should not be taken up or partisapated by the government or corparations period. All public schools were founded by the Bible it was the first text book why cant it be still?
No, the bible was part but Jefferson strongly pushed for science and math to be taught. Back then we didn't know evolution was a fact and the big bang but we now know Genesis is dead wrong on science and that's not very educational to teach false ideas.
Did you ever think about the reason that the bible was the first text book? The reason was simply because it was the most common book available at a time when few other books being printed in mass quantities. Because of it's sheer numbers it was used by the masses. Does this make it right? Is McDonalds good for you because you can get their food almost anywhere you are?
I'm a homosexual. A gay person. A "queer" -- yuck. Hate that word... can't believe I said it.
I don't know about you straight people (which I have NO problem with. Love you guys.) but... I act just the same. I don't harass. I don't judge. I have emotions, I have goals, I'm intelligent, I love music. So... why........why the controversy? Seriously. If someone has an answer for that please tell me I'm very interested.
Hey, criminal justice. I feel sorry for your future kids. They'll never be able to develop a personality. Let them think for themselves you typical stubborn-ass.
And for the rest of you, if you have a problem with gay people here is an EASY ass solution:
BUTT. THE. FUCK. OUT.
You make me so angry. Gay people don't bother anyone. We don't go around harassing people. SO WHY THE CONTROVERSY?!?!? Turn your head the other way if you have a problem.
The AFA is a hate group. Period. Why the media gives them any attention is beyond me. They're boycotting Disney, Ford, McDonalds... These big corporations aren't falling for their rhetoric (well, Ford did for a little while). I say we drive our F-150's wearing our Mickey Mouse shirts through a local McDonalds for a Big Mac.
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gays are the most intolerent people on the face of the earth. we do not have to tolerate their deviancy. if gays are born that way what about pedophiles, beastialites and incestors? Are they born that way too? Also gays are responsible for millions of children to get AIDS. The original name for AIDS was GRID = Gay Related Immune Deficnency. A new, highly drug-resistant strain of the "flesh-eating" MRSA bacteria is being spread among gay men in SF and Boston. gays pose threat to public health.
If AIDS is such a gay disease explain how the number of homosexual and bisexual men contracting AIDS has dropped while AIDS cases contracted from heterosexual sex have risen. Your ignorance is alarming but UNLIKE you I am simply attributing your statement to your lack of knowledge on the subject and therefore and TOLERATING you. Ironic how you call us homosexuals intolerance as well when you then state that "we do not have to tolerate their deviancy". You have dismantled your own argument.
How much-in dollars and cents- does Donald Wildmon and/or the American Family Association pay in local property taxes in Oak Lawn, Illinois? If their answer is "Nothing", I have some warm, heartfelt Christian advice for them: butt the fuck OUT of Illinois local issues.
AFA should be labeled as a hate group, they're just plain nasty. They think Chrisitans are superior, that's why they only want Christmas represented, and they say homosexuals are "unhappy" that's why they don't refer to them as gay. Go to hell AFA is right!
@SwampDog1957 They have ben listed as a hate group by the Southern ZPoverty Law Center. Now they are in the same category as the KKK and the Aryan Nations.
@TheManray05 I do hope and pray you and sis will find the truth and leave the false religion and church.
2 Corinthians 4:3-5 3But if our gospel be hid, it is hid to them that are lost: 4In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them. 5For we preach not ourselves, but Christ Jesus the Lord; and ourselves your servants for Jesus' sak
To the fundamentalist it is their way of making it us versus them and justifying their lifestyle while condemning someone so they can feel better when it's really their insecurity. That's my guess :)
3.Drug talk.. no not pro prohibition. But when and where it is appororiate to do these things if you are going to do them. (Not around the chillin!)(including alcohol)
But no, pro family means, against fredom imo. Can't do this or that because "My child might do it! if YOU are allowed to do it!"
You simply stated a fact that CAN'T be argued with. To all you close-minded people, read THE MESSAGE ABOVE. It's inarguable, because it's a fact. And it's true.
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How can idiots like this attract followers? That is my question. If the economy were not depressed, fools like this would not even be heard except by their low iq followers. People like this, who graduate from bogus "christian" universities, are truly an insult to America and all it stands for!!!
81546mot 7 months ago
My rule of thumb, and it always proves correct, is that any candidate running as a devout Christian & wants to impose their brand of Christianity on others, are ALWAYS the most morally bankrupt scumbags and should never be trusted!
George W Bush ran as a "devout born-again Christian" and single-handedly removed any moral authority the USA once had. Starting a for-profit war & a homo-erotic torture program, Bush & the amoral shit-stains he associates with makes Charles Manson look respectable!
HNK222 9 months ago
The APA is a religious fundamentalist hate group, they;re dedicated to the fine art of gay bashing in the name of a fictional supernatural deity.
Poochalot 9 months ago 2
AFA = garbage dump of nut cases. Rot in hell you ugly bitches.
jwwindsor 9 months ago
American Family Association=Load of Crap. They are undermining the constitution via the 1st amendment by attempting to ban books and trying to keep any mosques whatsoever from being built in America anymore. They preach tolerance, then boycott Home Depot because home depot sponsored gay rights and gay pride parades.
Basically, the AFA is the organization of master Dick move makers.
mitchr1224 10 months ago
Religion is hate.
eatmycakeshow 10 months ago
If the Ataturk dam is shut off, stopping the flow of water, so that this army can cross from the east, then the prophecy will be fulfilled. This was never possible prior to 1990. Pretty simple. The Bible says that Israel would reform as a nation, the Jews would return, and that Israel will not be defeated again. Multiple nations came against tiny Israel in 1948,1967,1973 and she is still standing. Can you name another nation in history that has reformed after approx. 2000 years? You cannot.
pottershand 1 year ago
In the end times, people will view evil as good, and will view good as evil. We are in those times.
pottershand 1 year ago
@pottershand End times? Sorry, that legend has been perpetuated time after time and humanity will be just fine for 1000's of years.
TXatheist 1 year ago
@TXatheist Actually, Bible prophecy has been fulfilled recently at an alarming rate. These are prophecies which were not fulfilled for 100s of years, but are being fulfilled in our lifetimes (i.e. Israel becoming a nation again in 1948). You might read Ezekiel 38, 39 to see how the nations are lining up for the war of Gog and Magog. The Ataturk dam was built in 1990 which will allow the fulfillment of Revelation 16:12 (the drying up of the Euphrates river). I could go on and on. Get right.
pottershand 1 year ago
@pottershand Alarming rate? Bull. That israel thing is as vague as saying they will move to all areas of the planet and saying because man can use airplanes that's the same thing. A man building a dam is not the river drying up, it's man shutting off the water. If I say my house will be destroyed and then I hire a demolition team that doesn't count because man did it.
TXatheist 1 year ago
@pottershand so youre saying that Hitler was good.
mitchr1224 10 months ago
Definition of a racist: Anyone who is winning an argument with a liberal/socialist.
SwampDog1957 1 year ago
@SwampDog1957 I wish that were the definition of racist but since no republican/redneck can win an argument against a liberal there are plenty of racists/republicans.
TXatheist 1 year ago
@TXatheist You may have something there. I suppose they're all afraid to debate you, eh?
SwampDog1957 1 year ago
@SwampDog1957 Not afraid, just not good at debating.
TXatheist 1 year ago
Jesus is the Reason for the Season. Luk 2
Brucev7 1 year ago
@Brucev7 Sol Invictus is the reason for season but most christians don't learn this from their church leaders.
TXatheist 1 year ago
@TXatheist Actually the early Church took the pagan worship out and made it into Christmas.
Brucev7 1 year ago
@Brucev7 Wrong, the early church plagiarized the legend from Sol Invictus just like they plagiarized a risen savior god myth from Horus and Mithra to invent the jesus myth. christianity was the pagan religion until Constantine declared it the official religion in the 4th century. I bet your leaders failed to mention that also.
TXatheist 1 year ago
@TXatheist Still not the issue. Historical evidence is the early church transformed it into a Christian celebration of the birth of the Savior and Lord.
Brucev7 1 year ago
@Brucev7 Yes, the reason for the season is Sol Invictus, that is the issue you originally commented. Once again, yes, the early church plagiarized dec 25 from sol Invictus as something related to the mythical jc. Mirthra and Horus were earlier savior's and lords before jesus got the title from greek mythology writers when making up the bible.
TXatheist 1 year ago
@TXatheist Actually there is not a connection between the Greeks, Egypttian mythology and the Christian faith. This has been widely misspoken.
See Equip org
Brucev7 1 year ago
@Brucev7 Actually, christians are misinformed when they deny the jesus myth didn't come from Horus, Hercules and MIthra. See any mythology department at a public university and not some fundamentalist at equip.
TXatheist 1 year ago
@TXatheist Not the issue. A worn-out old canard. This should help you with the truth. See--equip org-hanks speaks out reigulous with bill maher
'Mithras was born of a rock.' Where is that in the Bible?
'Isis had intercourse w/ Osiris after he had been cut into 14 pieces and his reproductive organs were swallowed by a fish.' Where in the Bible?
Brucev7 1 year ago
@Brucev7 You'd think the idea of being born of a virgin would be a worn out canard but people still believe this stuff and can't see the truth. Mithra was born of a virgin, that's where the jesus legend stole the idea and when you plagiarize you change the story slightly but the rock idea still shows up in Matt 16:18 slightly altered. That's how plagiarism works. Swallowed by a fish? Like Jonah and the whale fairy tale right there in the bible.
TXatheist 1 year ago
@TXatheist Your fishing in a dry hole.
Brucev7 1 year ago
@Brucev7 I must be using the bible as bait cause it catches sucker fishes real well. Your god is imaginary and the bible is simply a borrowed fairy tale and you can't deal with that reality.
TXatheist 1 year ago
@TXatheist Not the issue. Can't deny evidence, still being unearthed with each turn of the shovel. A plethora of Historical and Geographical. But then again, History and Geography are probably myths to you as well. You probably do not believe in Libraries or Text books either.
Brucev7 1 year ago
@Brucev7 Evidence? Other than tribes and cities the bible is not been shown to be historical. I don't believe in libraries? Try going to the mythology section next time and read Mithra and Horus stories and then the jesus myth story.
TXatheist 1 year ago
@Brucev7 It was the solstice that was co-opted frpm the Pagans. Jesus wasn't even born in December.
TheManray05 1 year ago
@TheManray05 Not the issue. And it isn't about the date, no one knows, it is about what is put into it.
Brucev7 1 year ago
@Brucev7 Religion is poison. Under the "God is Love" banner it divides and dehumanizes people. They are all religions of war. Even Buddhism was co-opted into Shintoism to justify Japanese aggression..
TheManray05 1 year ago
@TheManray05 It can be, and it depends on which one. Also if executed outside of God's commands. Actually Atheists, Secular Humanists, Pagans, dehumanize people. The Christian Faith, tells each one to love each other, to edify, build up, take care of one another. Yes, Buddhists are fighting in Thailand. A Missionary came and spoke about this and it is in the News as well.
Brucev7 1 year ago
@Brucev7 The atheists I've met were the kindest people who knew how to be moral without needing to believe in myths and fairy tales. Some of the Christians I grew up with were greedy, mean and soulless. There are good people among secular humanists (that label is ridiculous) and Christians. Just because you go to church doesn't make you a good person just as going into your garage doesn't mnake you a car.. The BTK serial killer was a deacon in his church.
TheManray05 1 year ago
@TheManray05 The Atheists I meet are very angry people. Lacking in God's love and kindness. Needing to follow God's Morals, since that is where they came from. I have met so many kind Christians over the years. But when meeting unbelievers, they are cold, hard, uncaring. Yes, being saved is about turning your life over to God and living a Christian life. Thankfully Millions have. Otherwise, the world would be in a much, much worse position than it is.
Brucev7 1 year ago
@Brucev7 God'sl ove and kindness seems reserved for those who have a strange definition of both. I've seen judgement and indifference and even cruelty from many who call themselves Christan. You seem to parrot beliefs about others based upon your prejudice- arheists and secular humanists (I've never heard anyone describe themselves as a secular humanist.) have the same characteristics as Christians as it also is a form of ideology. Just as Christianity is an ideology. I see no difference.
TheManray05 1 year ago
@TheManray05 And your not? Once your open you rmind and heart, you will see for the fist time. What foundation, Doctrine does a Atheist use? Each to their own?
Brucev7 1 year ago
@Brucev7 The contrast here is the "prosperity gospel" (Jesus wants me to be rich!) which has become so popular. Tell me how that fits into Christian doctrine? I have met wonderful Christians who actually exhibit kindness and genuine decency. I've met many more that don't. Same with those who identify as athiests. You over-generalize and act as if your Christian belief gives you some moral superiority. It doesn't.
TheManray05 1 year ago
@TheManray05 You got it Toyota. Doesn't. But it is Christians that made major contributions in Science, built Hospitals, brought Medicine into areas no one would go into to, established charities, Churches with Benevolent Funds to help the needy. I have met far more Christians that would at least pray for others. Open your closed heart and mind.
Brucev7 1 year ago
@Brucev7 You failed to answer the question and instead extolled the benefits of Christian contributions. There have been many contributions by Christians. On the other hand "Christian Science" - (not the religious group by that name) seems to present "intelligent design" and creationism as valid theories. Even the theorist who presented uintelligent design has come out against the Christians use of this theory for their own purposes.
I have an open mind. You're very condescending.
TheManray05 1 year ago
@TheManray05 Question? Your confusing confidence and knowledge. You do not seem to know Science history.
Brucev7 1 year ago
@Brucev7 You don't seem to be able to objectively view anything without the rose colored Christian glasses you wear. Take your own advice and open YOUR mind. I'm not interested in debating you. Christian Science? Laughable.
TheManray05 1 year ago
@TheManray05 You aren't interested in learning. Of course a person who is knowledgeable of a subject is going to speak with such. Don't be irrational.
Brucev7 1 year ago
@Brucev7 I am very interested in learning. I am well read and educated. You don't offer anything but your biased view of the world based upon your religious beliefs. How presumptuous of you that you offer anything that would be considered "learning". Go and pontificate to someone else. I am neither your project not your convert. You aren't knowledgeable. You're an ideologue. (look it up)
TheManray05 1 year ago
@TheManray05 Except for Theology. And, your not indwelt. So you are blinded to learning from and about God. Blah, blah, blah.
Brucev7 1 year ago
@Brucev7 The more dogmatic Christians are the less intelligent I find them. Theology and God as you define it is sanctimonious preaching and empty slogans. I have no idea what "Indwelt" was supposed to mean, but in future sentence contstruction use the contraction "you're".(as in you are) You are incorrectly using "your" It makes you seem uneducated in grammar, sentence structure and the english language, Preaching and converting is not your strong point. Sit quietly in a pew.
TheManray05 1 year ago
@TheManray05 Nothing wrong with dogma as long as it follows Christian Orthodox Doctrine. Sanctimonious, as has been pointed out, by a closed mind. Not a preacher, an Apologist. Your a dancer. You dance around what you are not knowledgeable in. It would be more intelligent to just say I do not have the knowledge of that or have not studied that. And yes, thank you for the tip on the usage of the word "your" and "you're."
Brucev7 1 year ago
@Brucev7 I am completely uninterested in Christian orthodox doctruine. You're (see, it CAN be used properly!) welcome for the tip on the use of "you're". You ignored it as you once again misused it. The Dalai Lama said "my religion is kindness". I doubt you could say the same. Read Bill Moyers, a Baptist minister with a wonderful intellect.. The two, religion and intellect, aren't mutually exclusive. You vastly overestimate your "knowledge".
TheManray05 1 year ago
@TheManray05 Yes, don't have a "religion." Religion always falls short. This is a common error by unbelievers to lump faith and religion in together.A misunderstanding. Know about Moyers, tends to stray from Biblical principals.
Brucev7 1 year ago
@Brucev7 ? I wasn't implying religion always falls short. I just find many supposed Christians do. Your implication that I'm an "unbeliever" says more about you than I. You're very presumptuous. I haven't said either way whether I am Christian or not.
It's really none of your business. I do go to a church. Obviously not the same denomination as you adhere to. You seem a very small and narrow minded man.
TheManray05 1 year ago
@TheManray05 Except, you argue, not supporting the faith, speak of your feelings of perceived shortfalls in religion. By thy fruit, you do not reveal a clear understanding of the Holy Bible or the God who gave that to His children. A Christian is supposed to be transparent, not hiding their faith. As the Holy scriptures say, 'How can they hear if they are not told?' Not the issue. You seem to possess a stubborn mindset to the commands and principles of Jehovah.
Brucev7 1 year ago
@Brucev7 Faith is personal to me.. My sister is lesbian. I saw rhe disgraceful treatment she received from our church. As a lesbian, she was reviled and rejected by people who claimed Go was love. Strangely, she is a minister. She teaches in a seminary. She found a church that loved her the way God made her. She is the kindest and most forgiving person I''ve ever encountered. Due to this my family changed churches. We are much happier with people who love everyone without judgement.
TheManray05 1 year ago
@TheManray05 She must repent. God is clear on His command about Homosexuality. A true follower of Christ responds in obedience and reverence to a Holy God who created them. And yes, I have siblings who have also made the same choice. It was not in bearing fruit that the church treated your sister. They should have spoken and taught her God's instructions in the Bible, in gentleness and kindness as Paul said.
Brucev7 1 year ago
@Brucev7 God, nor Jesus wrote the bible. Jesus never said one word about homosexuality. Jesus' command was we were "to love one another". You must repent for your judgement. My sister is perfect as she is. You are exactly the reason why we changed churches. Go back to your church and beg forgiveness. Judge not lest ye be judged. It was not her choice. She is exactly as she was meant to be. I'm sure your siblings want nothing to do with you. Your loss.
TheManray05 1 year ago
@TheManray05 Oh yes He did. Rev 21 Also, God repeatedly condemns Homosexuality, not once approving it, nor a part of His divine and perfect plan. Jesus being God's Son, the 2nd person of the triune, is obedient to the Father. Yes, we are to first love God w/ all out heart and mind, then love each other. This does not suspend any other command or part of God's plan.
Brucev7 1 year ago
@TheManray05 Keep running away from the truth. You will never have the fullness that God has ordained. No, all that run from God, living their self interests, miss out on a great deal, including a closeness to God. God can not look upon sin, thus it is those who choose their own sin over His love and divine plan.
Brucev7 1 year ago
@Brucev7 BTW - At our former church, gentleness and kindness was not the response. It was hatred and cruelty towards my sister. We choose to be Christian, we do not choose to be straight. It is who we are. My sister did not choose to be lesbian. It is who she is. The church we left 15 years ago, the evangelical Lutherans, have changed their position on gay people. They no longer advocate condemnation of gay people and welcome them into the church.
TheManray05 1 year ago
@TheManray05 You made that clear. I don't if it was that for w/ every member, maybe ignorance of the scriptures. Then you do not know the Holy Scriptures nor revere God. You are stubborn in your sin and self interest. You must repent. We dislike the sin, but love the sinner. Helping to lead an unrepentant sinner w/ the HS, to repentance and obedience to God. Jesus has made it clear if His church is lukewarm, he will spit them out, take their candlestick.
Brucev7 1 year ago
@TheManray05 BTW-Where did Jesus Christ, Yeshua, speak about Pedophilia? Arson? Rape? The Bible is an outline, not a book that details every sin that we can not commit. Just as are the Ten Commandments. But a redeemed person, a child of God, knows what is sin and what isn't. the HS will at least convict them to warn them before God chastens, reproves them.
Brucev7 1 year ago
@Brucev7 God didn't write the Bible. It was written by men. It has been altered and translated from the original text,, Mr "supposed scholar and Christian". you're Christian in name only. You reap what you sow. You give religion a bad name. You are not worthy of kindness as you exhibit none towards those Jesus would most certainly defend as his children..My sister is 500 times the person and Christian you will ever be, could ever aspire to be, or hope to achieve. Go to hell.
TheManray05 1 year ago
@TheManray05 Incorrect. the Bible is God's Holy inspired Word. It was translated by men under the direction of the HS. You still don't get it. It's not about religion.
2 Timothy 4:3
For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears;
Brucev7 1 year ago
@Brucev7 o it isn't. It wasn't written by Jesus either. Who are you to asay, were you there? Another insane person who hides behind their religion to excuse their mental illness. My sister is closer to God and more human than you will ever hope to become. You are a horrible person. The Bible also says we are to have slaves! Do you have a slave? Huh? If you don't then you are defying God, according to your theology!
TheManray05 1 year ago
@TheManray05 2 Timothy 3 1This know also, that in the last days perilous times shall come. 2For men shall be lovers of their own selves, covetous, boasters, proud, blasphemers, disobedient to parents, unthankful, unholy, 3Without natural affection, trucebreakers, false accusers, incontinent, fierce, despisers of those that are good, 4Traitors, heady, highminded, lovers of pleasures more than lovers of God; 5Having a form of godliness, but denying the power thereof: from such turn aw
Brucev7 1 year ago
@TheManray05 2 Peter 3:16
16 He writes the same way in all his letters, speaking in them of these matters. His letters contain some things that are hard to understand, which ignorant and unstable people distort, as they do the other Scriptures, to their own destruction.
Brucev7 1 year ago
@Brucev7 "which ignorant and unstable people distort", Pay attention to that line as it IS YOU. Ignorant and unstable. Particularly unstable. Get help.
TheManray05 1 year ago
@Brucev7 You're a zealot. You only offer condemnation and judgement. There are many things written in the bible that are not tolerated in society yet you fail to address those - do you have slaves? Yes or No?.
As I said, My sister is 500 times the Christian you will ever be. You are the example of why people Hate religion. What you claim to be and whta you are are two different thing. Have you been evaluated for insanity? You are insane.
Stupid ignorant peasant.
TheManray05 1 year ago
@Brucev7 You have no heart, no soul and no mind. Hide in your church and your interpretation of your scripture. and they can reinforce your hatred. That is all you offer. I chose love. I'm sorry you didn't. We don't need you. Jesus would want nothing to do with you.
TheManray05 1 year ago
@TheManray05 You can not see. It is as it is written. Sorry, I have Him. I repented of my sinful, selfish life and allowed Yeshua His rightful place on the throne. Do it now before it's too late sinner. Stop hiding behind your sin you love.
Brucev7 1 year ago
@TheManray05 That's alright. You are affirming my faith when you insult. God does love you and your sister. But He can not look on unnatural affection. Repent for the kingdom is nigh!
Brucev7 1 year ago
@Bruce7 Deal with yor own sin and fuck your faith. Bad Christian. Bad person. Rotten human being. Drop dead.
TheManray05 1 year ago
@TXatheist I def wouldnt say that is false advertisement, simply because many people do take Dec 25 as a day to celebrate the life of Christ. If ppl don't know that Jesus was not actually born on that day, then maybe they should read their Bibles more. Just because my birthday is Nov 23rd and I chose to celebrate it on the following weekend every yr, does that make it wrong? Am I falsely advertising my invitations when I ask for people to come celebrate on a day that is not actually my b-day?
Coraboo23 1 year ago
@Coraboo23 Exactly, the church has refused to come out and say December 25 has nothing to do with jc's birth. Reading the bible more isn't going to help because there is no evidence for jc at all. Are you telling people your birthday is really Nov 23 or the 30th? One is false and one is true just like jc and 12/25
TXatheist 1 year ago
@TXatheist I am not here to argue nor to debate. But you can not put the "Church" on a one-sided scale bias opinion. At my church I am taught to walk in love. Also they do not teach us that Christ's bday is the 25th. If I choose to celebrate his life on a certain day each yr, thats my business. No need to debate against it. It's not like Im going around lying to ppl and saying "JC was born on this day so yu must celebrate."
Coraboo23 1 year ago
@Coraboo23 I'm here to argue or debate either. I can put the church in a category of deceptive advertising since not only is dec 25 not the mythical jc's birthday but the bible is plagiarized mythology and god is just imaginary, no debate on that at all. Again, this video is about AFA who does false advertise and that's the point of the video, not that you have an imaginary friend, again not a lie.
TXatheist 1 year ago
@TXatheist I mean, thats what it will always boil down to, your unbelief. I can not make you believe anything.
Coraboo23 1 year ago
@Coraboo23 Especially with no evidence to support your belief. I get you believe in that stuff.
TXatheist 1 year ago
@TXatheist You know what, you really are looking for Christ, I will keep you in my prayers. Ohhh ye of little faith.
Coraboo23 1 year ago
@Coraboo23 I found christ...he's an imaginary friend in a fairy tale called the bible. Pray all you want, every intercessory prayer study has shown it's useless, ohh ye of too much gullibility.
TXatheist 1 year ago
@TXatheist Thanks so much for giving me the go ahead to pray for you :)
Coraboo23 1 year ago
@Coraboo23 No, thank you for insisting you need to pray as if that's something I want you to do for me.
TXatheist 1 year ago
@TXatheist Well I did, and theres nothing you can do to stop me... love ya.
Coraboo23 1 year ago
@Coraboo23 Right, and we both have that freedom of religion to enjoy. Love ya back.
TXatheist 1 year ago
AFA is the best! Finally, A Christian based organization standing strong on their values.
Coraboo23 1 year ago
@Coraboo23 Like the value of false advertising? Like when they sell buttons and stickers that say keep the Christ in christmas when December 25 has nothing to do with christ.
TXatheist 1 year ago
@1grandmajoyce Our calendars only acknowledge the violation of the separation of church and state by giving one religion a holiday when Dec 25 is really about Sol Invictus and not the mythical jc. I admit there are parables in the bible that can be used and that's why Thomas Jefferson made the jefferson bible. I'm waiting for a xian to admit jesus and god are just myths.
TXatheist 1 year ago
Wouldn't it just be more logical for the AFA to call itself the American Religous Extremist Association?
At least that way, they woudn't be confused with any compassionate and tolerant organizations.
ffairlane57 1 year ago
Like the salem witch trials in America or Inquisition or crusades or jim jones, branch davidians nor heaven's gate. I also think you should explain that greeks merely came up with their books much later and not until Constantine declared xianity the official religion did Mithraism die out and had that not happened america would be mithra worshippers and not jc worshippers.
TXatheist 2 years ago
will you also teach what people don't believe? No one in my family believes serpents can talk nor that men can rise after 3 days from a grave? I think if you don't you are contradicting physics and reptile characteristics. That there was no ark or flood during homosapien's era.
TXatheist 2 years ago
saved, I get your point but to teach the bible AS historical events is my problem. If you think Genesis for example IS actual history you aren't teaching just religion, you are teaching false history.
TXatheist 2 years ago
Hmm.I am completly Netural in these kinds of matters.I belive that though some of the things the AFA are fighting against are wrong,it is the personal choice of the person,so thereby choosing to do something can lead to a Mass Effect(I love that game) of opinions thrown at you/group from a association.
Also the AFA is taking things WAY to seriously.Every action they are doing is basically saying that they are Anti-Homo People,Anti-Semitism,ect.Please excuse my bad vocabulary,im only 11.
Randomfightinstudios 2 years ago
I'm a 9th grader and i think here is nothing wrong with teaching religion at school. That is exactly what our school does, we learn about all religions and are taught that there is no superior religion and that you are entitled to whatever you believe.
Great vid will subcscribe to your channel
unrefinedtheoriginal 2 years ago
unrefine, keep in mind some parents are atheists and want religion taught in their manner. I don't want my kid to be taught the world was flooded and noah made an ark to survive when that didn't happen.
TXatheist 2 years ago
The obviously solution to this Christmas Controversy is to teach about all of the different celebrations, and patronize none of them.
yhallotharlol 2 years ago
yhall, I'm all for teaching the origins of xmas. Sol Invictus.
TXatheist 2 years ago
fuck the afa they are fuckin retarded they are just a bunch of old 40 -60 year old fucks who are anti-gay.I also read that they have sued a bunch of companies because they sometimes include gay people in their ads or gay references they have even taken it as far as taking out ads in newspapapers saying that being gay is a sin they also tried to ban the movie cartoon shark tale because "it encourages children to be gay" i can almost assure you everyone in the afa are republican
fresapaletosa 2 years ago
Religion should not be taught in schools, whatever happened to separation of church and state?
Vallee92982 2 years ago
Right on! I'm gonna tell them the same thing, and while they keep Christmas out of school and in church, perhaps we can persuade them to do the same thing with the Jesus myth. Jesus in school is like putting SANTA CLAUS or the tooth fairy in school because it is mythology of the same IGNORANT level. These hysterical Christians need to take a little time and instead of being 'Born Again', just GROW the FUCK UP!
ColonPal 3 years ago
Im sorry but I,m am persueded other wise im sorry but your blacket statement "Genesis is dead wrong" doesnt convince anyone. The Irrefutable fact is that as time goes on more and more proof and evidence to creation and soforth is not so easily dismissed.
afti123 3 years ago
I don't deny you aren't persuaded. Most xians don't care about admitting Genesis is wrong. The fact is with more and more time we realize god is a plagiarized mythical being and the bible is completely wrong beyond a few tribes and cities. Do you think god made woman out of a rib as Genesis states? Sorry, zero evidence but 100% faith because it's not true.
TXatheist 3 years ago
Why? Culture wars should not be taken up or partisapated by the government or corparations period. All public schools were founded by the Bible it was the first text book why cant it be still?
afti123 3 years ago
No, the bible was part but Jefferson strongly pushed for science and math to be taught. Back then we didn't know evolution was a fact and the big bang but we now know Genesis is dead wrong on science and that's not very educational to teach false ideas.
TXatheist 3 years ago
Did you ever think about the reason that the bible was the first text book? The reason was simply because it was the most common book available at a time when few other books being printed in mass quantities. Because of it's sheer numbers it was used by the masses. Does this make it right? Is McDonalds good for you because you can get their food almost anywhere you are?
frank3z 2 years ago
Yes, gays exist, teach them that blacks, gays, hispanics and whites exist too.
How does eliminating gay marriage equal suing for calling gays sinners?
A doctor can refuse a black woman artificial insemination with a black man's sperm because he is a KKK member? Is that ok? KKK are xian by the way.
TXatheist 3 years ago
Did they ban Santa?
Felidaise 3 years ago
I don't know all the details including whether they banned Santa
TXatheist 3 years ago
I'm a homosexual. A gay person. A "queer" -- yuck. Hate that word... can't believe I said it.
I don't know about you straight people (which I have NO problem with. Love you guys.) but... I act just the same. I don't harass. I don't judge. I have emotions, I have goals, I'm intelligent, I love music. So... why........why the controversy? Seriously. If someone has an answer for that please tell me I'm very interested.
Stephano2591 3 years ago 4
Hey, criminal justice. I feel sorry for your future kids. They'll never be able to develop a personality. Let them think for themselves you typical stubborn-ass.
And for the rest of you, if you have a problem with gay people here is an EASY ass solution:
BUTT. THE. FUCK. OUT.
You make me so angry. Gay people don't bother anyone. We don't go around harassing people. SO WHY THE CONTROVERSY?!?!? Turn your head the other way if you have a problem.
Ignorant rednecks.
Stephano2591 3 years ago 3
The AFA is a hate group. Period. Why the media gives them any attention is beyond me. They're boycotting Disney, Ford, McDonalds... These big corporations aren't falling for their rhetoric (well, Ford did for a little while). I say we drive our F-150's wearing our Mickey Mouse shirts through a local McDonalds for a Big Mac.
gibbonsinthelibrary 3 years ago 6
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gays are the most intolerent people on the face of the earth. we do not have to tolerate their deviancy. if gays are born that way what about pedophiles, beastialites and incestors? Are they born that way too? Also gays are responsible for millions of children to get AIDS. The original name for AIDS was GRID = Gay Related Immune Deficnency. A new, highly drug-resistant strain of the "flesh-eating" MRSA bacteria is being spread among gay men in SF and Boston. gays pose threat to public health.
ElizabethDilling 3 years ago
you dumbass bitch. You'll never have to worry about getting AIDS will you? Don't have sex with a gay man. DUMBASS.
You stuck-in-your-generation adults crack me up.
Stephano2591 3 years ago
If AIDS is such a gay disease explain how the number of homosexual and bisexual men contracting AIDS has dropped while AIDS cases contracted from heterosexual sex have risen. Your ignorance is alarming but UNLIKE you I am simply attributing your statement to your lack of knowledge on the subject and therefore and TOLERATING you. Ironic how you call us homosexuals intolerance as well when you then state that "we do not have to tolerate their deviancy". You have dismantled your own argument.
apolloburns 3 years ago 5
How much-in dollars and cents- does Donald Wildmon and/or the American Family Association pay in local property taxes in Oak Lawn, Illinois? If their answer is "Nothing", I have some warm, heartfelt Christian advice for them: butt the fuck OUT of Illinois local issues.
BenAliGtor 3 years ago 4
Fcuk Xmas if that is what is required to maintain the separation between fundamentalism and government.
jerrydoubleu 3 years ago 3
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Tell the muslim cunt to move to a different country!
nofukenway 4 years ago
AFA should be labeled as a hate group, they're just plain nasty. They think Chrisitans are superior, that's why they only want Christmas represented, and they say homosexuals are "unhappy" that's why they don't refer to them as gay. Go to hell AFA is right!
qtpie99 4 years ago 11
@qtpie99 Haven't done much research on the AFA, have you?
SwampDog1957 1 year ago
@SwampDog1957 They have ben listed as a hate group by the Southern ZPoverty Law Center. Now they are in the same category as the KKK and the Aryan Nations.
TheManray05 1 year ago
@TheManray05 That's going to be a shock to the African-Americans who work for AFA.
I guess the SPLC sets the standard for truth, eh?
SwampDog1957 1 year ago
@SwampDog1957 Are you really saying hate equates to racism against blacks? Hate is much more than just being a racist against blacks.
TXatheist 1 year ago
@SwampDog1957 Not once they explain it's only the queers they hate. Then the black Christian churches will give them a pass.
TheManray05 1 year ago
@TheManray05 I do hope and pray you and sis will find the truth and leave the false religion and church.
2 Corinthians 4:3-5 3But if our gospel be hid, it is hid to them that are lost: 4In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them. 5For we preach not ourselves, but Christ Jesus the Lord; and ourselves your servants for Jesus' sak
Brucev7 1 year ago
what stupid fucks........... go to hell afa.....
anyhandleleft 4 years ago 4
Wdf does christmas and homosexuals have to do with family?
How does it hurt your family if two homosexuals are burning mistle toes?
thefakeyeti 4 years ago 9
To the fundamentalist it is their way of making it us versus them and justifying their lifestyle while condemning someone so they can feel better when it's really their insecurity. That's my guess :)
TXatheist 4 years ago
Let me elaborate a little...
I figured "family values" should be about...
1.Child abuse provention
2. Family communication...
3.Drug talk.. no not pro prohibition. But when and where it is appororiate to do these things if you are going to do them. (Not around the chillin!)(including alcohol)
But no, pro family means, against fredom imo. Can't do this or that because "My child might do it! if YOU are allowed to do it!"
thefakeyeti 4 years ago 5
I couldn't have said it better.
You simply stated a fact that CAN'T be argued with. To all you close-minded people, read THE MESSAGE ABOVE. It's inarguable, because it's a fact. And it's true.
Stephano2591 3 years ago