@SirWinstonChurchill ~ i don't think you're stable. you're just yelling obscenities, and that proves what? you're an unstable fucking idiot? well yeah, it actually does.
the false illusion is that it's a matter of winning or losing. The truth is that war makes money, LOTS and LOTS of money, not for our country, but our politicians, and it's rather a matter of how long they can keep them "at war", how long we can occupy other countries.
@gmcjetpilot Your vicious attacks on the Quran are largely true, yet you expound on the truth & goodness of the Bible. In the Bible: * Rape victims must be killed * Rape victims must marry their attackers (in another section) * Children must be beaten * Non-Christians must be killed * Babies conceived in adultery must be aborted * In church, women may not speak & those without headscarves must have their heads shaven * Slaves should be treated as property yet you say the Bible is TRUE?
and those were just a few of the explicit rules.
The list of atrocities committed or commanded by God is even more disgusting. No pedophilia per se, but offering of one's own (grown?) children for sex, murder of women & children, incest, genocide, torture, slavery, you name it, the Christian God has either done it or commanded it be done.
Bible verses? You're wrong, out right lying or perverting the Bible badly. Same on you. I can back up what I say with Quran verses, hadith verses, history and the actual words and deeds of muslims past and present. So lets go.... take one at a time. With all the islamic terrorism, abuse of woman and children in Islamic culture, you are pissed at Jesus? Where were the muslims at Hatti or Chile? Religion of Peace this week gave us suicide bombers Russia. Google religionofpeace com
@gmcjetpilot Now, george, if you stay away from bullshit sites like "gotquestions..org" and learn real science you won't make yourself look like such a fool. Can't be bothered to watch the "Misquoting Jesus" video? By Bart Ehrman...a BIBLE SCHOLAR. It's just information that's been known for 302 YRS, but you have no clue about. Why are you so scared?
@gmcjetpilot Yes, george: the bible is full of holes...that's no secret. I, personally, appreciate your war on islam, but,sheesh, get some facts...some actual information. Check out:
TXHalabi channel. Straight from the holy book.
And, please, wake up about your bible...it's full of contradictions. Just watch "Misquoting Jesus". You cannot understand the words of Jesus...if you don't know what the words were....just watch it. A lot of what you say about the bible is...flat out wrong.
Don't bear false witness against others (Exodus 20:16)
As in: don't say I'm lying if I'm not.
I backed up exactly what I said with citations. I am not "wrong" or "outright lying" (check the verses) or perverting the Bible (read before & after to see if I'm taking them out of context).
I'd point out that you should Google "Muslim Americans Strive to Help Earthquake-Ravaged Haiti." but again I agree that much of the letter of the Quran is disgusting, just as is much of the Bible.
*Don't bear false witness against others (Exodus 20:16)
As in: don't say I'm lying if I'm not.
You are a LIAR! YOU QUOTE MINE FROM ATHEIST AND ISLAMIC SITES... You gave your false atheist commentary to Bible verses YOU FALSE WHITNESS. You don't know what you are talking. Clearly you never read the Bible. To say ISLAM, the religion of mohammad & allah has ANYTHING to do with Judeo Christianity, shows your ignorance and contempt for God.
* Rape victims must be killed (Deuteronomy 22:23-24)
Google: answering-islam org/Shamoun/ot_and_rape
Slavery and rape of slaves or woman you take in battle is a given in Islam. Still in FULL affect. Deuteronomy is OLD TESTAMENT..... very specific time and place. Islam is 1400 years of Jihad and violence to present day, with only periods of decline and isolation.
A time & place when God says rape victims should be killed?
What kind of horrible God says that?
Jesus believed that the Old Testament was the Word of God. He said, "The Scripture cannot be broken" (John 10:35). He also indicated that it was indestructible: "Until Heaven and earth pass away, not the smallest letter or stroke shall pass away from the law, until all is accomplished" (Matthew 5:18).
Proverbs 23:13-14 - Does NOT say beat them liar. It means don't fail to correct them and spanking them will not kill them. You are a rebelling child and need some rod. But it is too late. Your parents failed you, for which you became a God hating heathen and I suspect a homosexual..
Google: gotquestions org/disciplining-children
Islam and Honor KILLING is Islamic for woman and apostates
"You are a rebelling child and need some rod." Are you a Catholic priest?
I tried to have a reasoned argument with you, but you are not open to facts, nor willing to construct your own arguments, instead just spamming for another site. You attack the messenger & have no answer to horrors of the Bible other than to say "it was a different time" & "Islam does it worse!"
BTW: It never says "spanking" - it says to hit your children with a stick.
"* Non-Christians must be killed (2 Chronicles 15:13, John 15:6, etc.)"
2 Chronicles 15:13, written 3300 years ago during time of war (being attacked) for old testament people, Israelites, Mosaic laws. Jesus change all this. Old testament days are over. These passages are for specific people and times.
Google: gotquestions org/war-Bible
Quran 2.191, 8.39 fight until religion is only for islam
Quran 9.123 kill infidels near, let them find hardness in you
"* Non-Christians must be killed (2 Chronicles 15:13, John 15:6, etc.)"
John 15:6. Read it on an intellectual level, not a childish quote mining one. "The grace of God is not a license to sin. Believers who play with fire will get burned. Sin is fire. Fiery judgment awaits the unfruitful, non-abiding believer." I believe that. Sue me. You don't believe so why worry. God judges. In Islam Muslims judge & kill for allah.
I love that you dismiss me as a "quote miner." Actually using quotes I think are innately flawed to show a text is infallible. I have not taken anything out of context.
If you want to interpret it that way, that's awesome. I'll grant you that quote was ambiguous, unlike
2 Chronicles 15:13 "All who would not seek the LORD, the God of Israel, were to be put to death, whether small or great, man or woman."
@ndbrandt "* Slaves should be treated as property (Leviticus 25:44-46)" google: gotquestions org/Bible-slavery Islam Q24:33 Don't force your slave-girls to whoredom (prostitution) but if you do, Allah is oft-forgiving. >Slavery history of Islam (search youtube) watch?v=pJhSejBDTPI watch?v=Wk1RzkB7VEM watch?v=gdi2bdv4nwA watchv?=BWOcuxadDkE watch?v=5yaVcKAWccU Biggest atheist murdering mass human slave masters? Mao, Stalin & Hitler.... Yea a world with out God would be great?
Fact: The Bible, in Leviticus & Exodus, condones slavery.
Leviticus 25:44 "Your male and female slaves are to come from the nations around you; from them you may buy slaves. 45 You may also buy some of the temporary residents living among you and members of their clans born in your country, and they will become your property. 46 You can will them to your children as inherited property and can make them slaves for life, but you must not rule over your fellow Israelites ruthlessly"
Obviously Mao & Stalin are evil, as were Christians like Hitler & Mussolini & Ivan the Terrible & Vlad the Impaler & Leopold II.
(Whether or not you believe him, Hitler continually stated his faith & was never excommunicated nor condemned by his church. He often quoted On the Jews and their Lies by Martin Luther.)
What's you're point about the Quran? It, like the Bible, is full of horrible things I don't believe. Stop quoting it to me.
The word of God is 3/4th of a million words. You think you understand it by quote mining from atheist web sites? The Bible has been studied for 1700-3000 years. We know. PhD's DISAGREE WITH YOU. I read the BIBLE and MAKE MY OWN MIND UP WITH PRAYFUL CONTIMPLATION. You just want to attack it. Fine have at it. At least we will not KILL you like Muslims do if you criticizes islam, draw a cartoon or make a movie quoting the quran.
@gmcjetpilot If it a book is purpotedly infallible, a single flaw destros its entire premise. Justify this verse for me, would you, Deuteronomy 22: 28-29 "If a man fids a virgin and rapes her, he must give her father fity shekels, and she shall be his wife.
If you can't justify that or put it in context, then it is a moral flaw, and a book from the creator of the universe would have no such things
1) RAPE is wrong. 2) Read the OLD testament (for specific time and people, aka moses 3300 yrs ago) in context & Hebrew. RAPE? Actual context/word is decisive, seduce, persuade the woman to have sex, aka consensual but immoral never the less. There's no condoning rape nor is the woman obligated to marry. Over riding is Jesus, New Testament Law, which says follow civil laws. Question?
I just did in my previous post. You've been "pwned". Do you see Christians demanding shekels, forced marriages of rapist and raped woman? NO! Why because it NEVER was a law. Regardless no relevance to Christians, Jesus, New Testament people, you ignorant rebelling child. You damn yourself being a false witness against God. Blaspheming is bad heathen! Get a study Bible; take a Bible basics class from a Christian.
@gmcjetpilot You left 3 comments, one of which was just "hahaa, in your face" so I won't respond to that portion of it. However, a few things you said were remotely civil discussion, so I shall adress those. Although Modern =/= Ancient Hebrew, I am learned in neither, so I will concede the point. However, I still find one thing absolutely wrong. If he's paying the father, than yes she's obliged to marry, it's all up to the father. And what principle does that set? TBC
@gmcjetpilot cont.As long as you have your hymen, you belong to dad? Your second point was "The old testament doesn't apply" to which I might bring up things like "I have not come to abolish..." or "let not a single stroke" but I don't have to, because in your second comment to me, you said "You have born false witness" which, news flash, is one of the first ten commandments of the Old Testament. You say "you damn yourself by blaspheming" and also "take Christianity from Christians" TBC
@gmcjetpilot But if I said " Blasphemy gets you cookies in the afterlife" shouldn't you 'take blasphemy from a blasphemer.' And okay, I really oversimplified what you have to do for a gun permit, truth be told I've only been to a range once in my life and no experience with guns otherwise, my point was, a handgun, regardless of caliber, is not a credential, and should not be relevent on this forum
You're a child throwing a tantrum, using me for a surrogate to exercise your rebellion and attention you seek. I represent your parents or people mean to you? I don't know what mental condition you're dealing with, but I'm done with you. I'll pray for you. May be it's just the arrogance of your youth, thinking you know it all. True wisdom, the greatest mankind has, is the in Bible. I have things to do. I LOVE JESUS (and so the devil in you must go crazy now).
Do you THINK? Do you think YOU, an uneducated person who has no scholarly level of education in anything, much less history, philosophy, theology, who is personally biased and hypocritical, is going to TELL ME what the BIBLE SAYS? Are you going to tell me something I never heard before or thought about? Make me CONVERT to atheism? LOL!
@gmcjetpilot No, but Bart Ehrman BIBLE SCHOLAR will tell you about the bible in the "Misquoting Jesus" video that you apparently REFUSE to watch. Why are you so scared, little man?
@gmcjetpilot Yeah, I've seen strobel. Nice how he down plays everything as not a big deal, but never mentions the addition of the TRINITY, or the 12 verses of mark....you know: it's all just trivial meaningless stuff. He's a liar and deceiver and that's obvious. If you can'[t see it--ask yourself WHY.
I read "Misquoting Jesus". It's in parts factual, but on the whole, is over blown with massively erroneous liberal secular conclusions, for which his facts don't support. In a word, he fails. There is nothing new. You think Christians live in fear and hide in a cave. We challenge our faith and it makes us and our faith stronger... and you hate that. In his lectures he brings up the topics of homosexuality and abortion early. No doubt he has a liberal homosexual agenda.
@gmcjetpilot Oh, that's non-sense. Proverbs 30:5 "Every word of God is pure: he is a shield unto them that put their trust in him." Look it up. An imperfect work by a prefect god--Yeah, that makes a lot of sense. The bible is full of holes, errors, mistakes, contradictions--If you believe in a god that inspired THAT.....you're dumber than I thought your are. It doesn't take anything more then common sense to refute the bible, but there IS a whole lot more.
@gmcjetpilot "liberal secular conclusions"....yeah, that's what you want to see. The contradictions, errors and mistakes of the bible are not "liberal secular conclusions"...they are just THERE. You believe in a god that can't seem to get much right, so why would he get his bible right? LMAO! He fucked up creating the angels (satan), he fucked up creating man (sin), he tried wiping folks out in small and large groups ( sodom/gamorrah), then tried to wipe the planet, but being an idiot god....
@gmcjetpilot kept a few sinners (noah et al), that shit didn't work, so he ended up coming down in the flesh HIMSELF to prove to HIMSELF that one could lead a "perfect" life, ended up sacrificing HIMSELF to HIMSELF to appease HIMSELF....and even that shit didn't work. LOOK at everything: It's STILL fucked up! You BELIEVE in that shit. WoW! How DESPERATE you are to be "Special" in the universe. LMAO!!! And now to find out your are a PRIMATE!! LMAO!!! A monkey-man with a monkey-god!! LMAO!!!
@gmcjetpilot the homosexual agenda is not just so they can get married and consummate their love, the truth is they plan on turning EVERYONE gay. What they do see, is they wear all black clothes and sneak up to your house at night. They wait in the bushes outside your window for your wife and kids to sit down at the table for dinner, and that's when they strike. BAM! They burst open the door, come in, and start fucking you in the ass! It's happening. Wake up America... wake up.
I don't talk to douche bags who put sign of beast in their screen name.
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"consummate their love". Eweee & BS! Gays can live together, get company benefits (many of them incl'd mine), hire a lawyer, give each power of attorney to half their stuff if they break up. Gay marriage is a canard. My wife has a CCW, carries a 9mm. I hold a Federal permit for a gun. What if? We'd shoot you in the head ass hole. We also live in a gated community; keeps idiots out, like you.
@geeflyboy you are talking to a douchebag who put the sign of the beast in his or her screen name unless you admit that he or she is not a douchebag. Do you lack any sense of sarcasm? And carrying a gun is not impressive, anyone can pass the little test by reading the little study guide that's writtten at a fifth grade level, and firearms are not that expensive. A community that keeps idiots out? I'd live there except, judging by your comments, it does not appear foolproof
Actually I conceal carry with a federal license not state. Even CCW permits for most states requires a class (6-15 hours) and hands on range tests, written test and of course background and license fees. As far as my education I finished undergrad mechanical engineering LSU '85 and post grad UW '91, while I was working for Boeing Aircraft in Seattle. How about you? Are you smarter than a 5th grader? Still live with Mom? Beat it troll.
On Ehrman's book, Michael J. Kruger: "a book full of ironies","intellectual schizophrenia.","it purports to be about unbiased history but rarely presents an opposing viewpoint; ironic it claims to follow scholarly consensus but breaks from it so often; ironic it insists on the historical-critical method but then reads the gospels with a modernist, overly-literal hermeneutic. He goes on to say he tells us no one view of early Christianity is correct yet tells us which one is right.
Leviticus is old testament. The WORD slave in the Bible comes from the hebrew that means servant... LOOK IT UP. Many slaves were like migrant farm workers of today or personal assistants.... It was a job. They had contracts. Many servants or "slaves" were part of the family and voluntarily stayed with them for life. This was 3300 years ago. Christians and Jews were also slaves. You sound mad about culture and people 3300 yrs ago. THOSE DAYS ARE OVER. GET OVER IT.
This vid is an interesting match-up: Both Cenk and Karen Finney are articulate people, but neither one is particularly insightful. I wonder if that was deliberate on the part of MSNBC...
I agree except for the call of violence to stifle free speech. I'm not against violence for those who would be violent against us, in self defense. Our response should be a thousand fold w/ extreme prejudice. Arabs, muslims, 3rd World understands power & violence. That's their culture. To appeal to them with our FREEDOM of speech & religion, democratic Gov & Laws, Judeo-Christian religion/culture is silly. That's the source of their contempt & hatred of us, for want to destroy it (Us).
I am Catholic and we talk about Jesus in church, we accept him as the Son of God and our savior, we say all the same things that the "saved" Protestants do. What's important is loving God, serving HIm and loving your neighbor as yourself. LordSnow, you sound like a Pharasee. There is nothing more absurd than Christians arguing over who got it right. Go out and feed a homeless man instead!
My point is that all he does is spew his own opinions in a "news" format which is disingenuous. The facts that back up my point are laid out by this smarmy, smug, arrogant pseudo-news program called TYT. Look there are so many big mouths like him out there, past and present, I only commented on him and TYT. Others include : Jesse Jackson, Michael Moore(the king of this), Rush Limbaugh, Al Sharpton, Sean Penn, George Clooney, Rachael Maddow, Mike Huckabee and Mahmoud Ahmadinejad( non-American) HA
What I am saying is that He and those like him are pseudo-news men. They make a name for themselves through negativity and contrarian attitudes. If you have ever watched TYT on youtube you should know what I mean. He rails against this republic and its ideal. He rails against capitalism, yet he profits off it. As an American he is afforded the freedom to speak his opinion without censorship(responsibly). As a human he has the right to do so.
This guy Cenk and his " minions" are nothing more than grifters, scamming for money. He says nothing of substance. He is like walking cliff notes. If you ever watch him, he never backs himself up with any facts. I guess we don't need facts anymore. Do you realize how much money he makes off of corporate sponsorship. He is comfortable. He has no honor or conscience. The unfortunate truth is that people like him "succeed" (monetarily). Too bad he can't take it with him. Forget posterity.
@hank262, do you realize how little these guys make off of corporate sponsors? Fox News makes MILLIONS, Rush Limbaugh makes MILLIONS, Glenn Beck makes MILLIONS, Shaun Hannity makes MILLIONS, Bill O'Rielly makes MILLIONS!
Look at their financial reports! Just take a look, I doubt you will.
Turns out in a later comment you did mention Rush Limbaugh, but still no mention of any from Fox News outside of Mike Huckabee. Not only that but you state Michael Moore is the king of disingenuousness, when in all reality MOST of what he says can be verified as fact.
Qualifier there is MOST, he does overstep bounds, but that can be expected of any of us, especially those with a profit motive behind their speech.
You seem like a rational human. Refreshing to run into someone whom I more than like disagree with in every aspect of the political world. I am so sick of the uncivilized manner in which liberal and conservatives "debate". I put no stock in most of what our media outlets spew forth.
I'll agree Hank262, I don't watch the media, I REFUSE to watch Fox, or MSNBC. The only Media I like would be NPR due to Science Friday, and their actual discussion panels with many experts from all sides of the political spectrum.
Gmc, how does what you just said make sense in ANY fashion? He stated that TYT makes a ton of money off corporate sponsorship, however, he overlooks the major news networks (primarily Fox, being the largest, and most targeted for advertising) make off advertisements, that's what it has to do with "tea in China."
You are aware I can have separate discussions on separate topics with separate people, right?
Obama lost right here and there his election in 2012,period. He will be known as not keeping his word at his compaign and his words about change. This is not why I voted for Obama, I voted for Obama because he promised REAL healthcare, He promised he would fight against all insurance companies,he promised he would end the war and bring every single troop home....yet, everyhting is going to other way, insurance companies will still control and run the show and now he sending more troops...
gmcjetpilot relax man, take a breath. We get it man, we know how you conservatives think.
Yes Islam is the enemy... we get it. Yesterday it was Communism, today its Islam. People like you need enemies in your life : ) You radical Christians need to have a Satan in this world so you can feel good about yourself.
I hope you understand ISLAM is NOT about religion. OH NO! It's much more. It is about CHANGING the LAND to ISLAM, changing the government, changing the culture, changing the law and of course changing the religion to ONLY ISLAM. The only exceptions is a small Dhimmi group used for subjugated labor or paying extra tax, aka jyiza extortion. The dhimmi can practice their religion but only if it's invisible. May be we should do that to THEM?
Do you have a GOOGLE DEFICIENCY? It does NOT mean JIHAD, GO KILL PEOPLE NOW-TODAY? IT'S A PARABLE OF GOD SPEAKING & JUDGING in the END DAY!
ALL CHRISTIANS AGREE LUKE 19:27 DOES NOT MEAN KILL FOR GOD. God will Judge in the end. God Judges not muslims or their moslum god allah. Who's causing TERRORISM? Christians? No, self identified MUSLIMS quoting quran & yell ALLAH AKBAR JUST BEFORE KILLING PEOPLE ARE TERRORIST. Google:
answeringmuslims com violence-in-islam-vs-violence-in
Hey GMC, that's what JESUS SAYS! So, you say that Christians agree that it does not mean to kill for God? Look up on Google, the very thing you ordered of me, look for Muslims who are against terrorist acts, look up Muslims claiming the exact thing!
Both your religions are the same! Both religions are disgusting, both are violent as hell, both are arrogant, and NEITHER deserves to exists due to the behavior of their followers. You think you're a good Christian? You're a hateful bigot!
Don't HEY me; you're a punk, Boy. I don't care what muslims say. LOOK at the NEWS, what muslims really say & do and their 1400 yr history of violence idiot.
No both religions are not the same, but you wouldn't know. You don't know anything about any religion, history, philosophy or science. You're a punk with a big mouth. Unfortunately the internet allows children like you to play on the computer & spew your immature, childish, ignorant, bigoted bull shit. NO YOU ARE! Ha Ha!
Tisk tisk? You are 24 and so bigoted & hateful. Looking at your channel you're anti-Christ, pro-homosexuality. Humm, that would explain your attitude. Not sure there's an excuse for you lying, being dishonest and defending Islam. I find it hilarious that atheist attack Jesus to defend Islam but ignorant of both? Muslims and artiest are the same godless team, delusional and decived by satan. I don't have a xenophobic bone in my body, I am just anti-stupidity. You are stupid.
Islam is just as guilty as Christianity, both have HUGE faults, and both have oceans of blood on their hands.
You don't know what Xenophobia is apparently, and if you were anti-stupid, you'd have a self-inflicted gunshot wound penetrating your skull.
Oh my god! I think people should have rights under the law! Oh my god! Christ and Mohammad are both suppressive dictatorial figures! Oh my god! Your religion is based off a fairy tale that I refuse to accept as it's WRONG! How horrible of me.
Amazing Gmcjetpilot, you actually shut up after I call you out on your own hypocrisy on Islam when Jesus himself says kill folks who don't believe!
Your weak excuse of, "It's a parable for the end times!" doesn't hold water, as it's STILL JESUS saying KILL those who don't believe in me! Regardless of when it is!
You also have God commanding you to stone witches AND those who participate in Idolatry, ergo, folks who don't believe! HYPOCRITE!
Amazing you're still spewing BS troll. I answered you. Look it up. You're ignorant and a liar boy.
Stone witches? ha ha where does it say that? Are you talking about 1700 Salam? Ha ha take a history lesson. It had nothing to do with Christianity and more to do with paranoia from constant Indian attacks, harsh conditions and a fungus that caused LSD type hallucinations. It was adjudicated by the court. Your stupidity is vast. Take your anti-Christ crap and suck it HYPOCRITE!
You STILL haven't spoken to Idolatry, as you know that means KILL NONBELIEVERS! Oh my god! You're a HUGE hypocrite! And now you also say that the court can make amendments to the bible? Not following there, go figure, as you have no logic.
Old testament? Those days are over. Those where very specific and violent times. They no longer apply. These are New Testament days after the Prince of Peace died for our Sins.
Witch hunts and Indian wars are ALL the fault of Jesus Christ and the Teachings in the BIBLE? HA HA HA HA! Proof please?
So you believe every came from nothing out of no where for no reason by random chance & accident? In your case you are a fluke of the universe with no reason to exist or live.
So the old testiment is NOT a part of your religion? And GOD did not lay out those commandments? And then for some reason change? I thought he was perfect, and always perfect, and therefore ANY change would make him imperfect. CONTRADICTIONS!
And again, seeing as you don't listen, Luke 19:27, he clearly says kill nonbelievers. Amazing.
So you also believe the Bible's story on creation? So, explain Dinosaurs.
And if I'm a BS troll, I guess I'd have to be to speak on the Bible, which is simply complete BS! Amazing isn't it?
The only way to speak about bullshit, is to speak the bullshit itself! And you actually think you're a good Christian rather than just a xenophobe. Evidence please.
ahaa I hurt your feelings. You are throwing a temper tantrum. Do you know what xenophobe means? You are an idiot. On any given day I'm in command of a crew with people from many different backgrounds, races, sex, national and ethnic origins. Viva la difference.
You are a little sexist, racist, misogynistic, xenophobic, hater that attacks people do to race and region due to ignorance, bigotry, prejudice and hate. You've embarrassed yourself enough for one day boy HYPOCRITE!
You're right it means fear of foreigners. You do have Google. Where do you get I am Xenophobic? Born in the US I lived in Europe as a kid. My work takes me all over the World and LOVE different cultures and people. SO IT IS YOU THAT IS AN IGNORANT BS PREJUDICE STEREOTYPING ASS HOLE, but it's OK to hate Christians & White people? I expect an apology.
I'm not saying Arabs are evil! ISLAM and Arabs are TWO DIFFERENT THINGS IDIOT. Only 30% of muslims are Arab. Are u retarded?
OR, you have OPENLY stated you hate Homosexuals, and Arabs! Amazing! You've stated ARABS in these comments, you've said they contributed NOTHING, and simply STOLE their ideas from the Greeks.
I'm White you jack ass, I obviously wouldn't hate my own race. You aren't getting an apology for something that is the TRUTH.
Now, EXPLAIN DINOSAURS little creationist. Let's hear how you can work that into your little creation myth.
Show me where I said I HATE ANY ONE? You can't. Just because I criticise a GAY person & don't go for the secular gay agenda does not mean I HATE ANY ONE.
This is CLEARLY your OWN HATE BEING PROJECTED ON ME. You are a Gay right? That is why you hate GOD? Well I see that Sin does separate man from God. There is no need to go on. You are a HATER.
Dinosaurs? What THE F you are talking about? Dinosaurs? As a Kid I studied them extensively, had books and models. WHAT ABOUT IT?
Scroll down, look for what you SAID about Arabs. You tried to discredit me by saying I support homosexuals! You IMPLY you hate them, your word usage PROVES you hate them, your demeanor is more EVIDENCE than any statement!
The Bible's account of creation doesn't leave room for Dinosaurs, that's what I'm talking about. It also states our Earth is held above "the deep" referring to water.
People like you are why I REJECT that God even exists, because YOU are PROOF a LOVING God couldn't.
No you are conflating BULL SHIT with more BULL SHIT. Islam and gay are different topics. You brought up the gay saying I HATE GAYS. BULL!
I imply hate? Aren't you a mind reader. Ass hole! I HATE EVIL, TERROR, MURDER, RAPE and so on. If it happens that all terrorist are muslims and the quran has VERY specific violent verses that fuels terrorism, I WILL SPEAK OUT ASS HOLE!!!!! YOUR BULL SHIT defense is to call me names, homophone, xenophobe, racist, YOU LITTLE TWIT, FUCK YOU!
LoL, gmcjetpilot, "You call me names, you're a twit, fuck you, you're gay, you're stupid, blah blah blah." Again you're a hypocrite. It's amazing you don't see it.
Ahaa can't win so now you cry and whine, "you called me names, waaa". I just flipped it back at you. You attack people and their faith with LIES, expect to piss people off. Shit happens. IT'S YOUR TROLL GOAL ANYWAY. Congrats. YOU PISS ME OFF! so I opened a Can-O-Whoop ass, internet keyboard hero. All you cowards wouldn't say squat to my face. What you are 21, 24 yrs old? You know nothing. Write me in 25 yrs when you grow up & know something, if you are not dead from AIDS.
Crying, I was laughing at your blatant further hypocrisy. So where is your peer-reviewed source? Have you NEVER, heard of Superstring theory, do you know what radioactive half-life is? Do you even know the process of radio-carbon dating? Do you understand evolution (obviously not as you use the term "accidental")?
You say you have degrees, but act in a manner that suggests otherwise, and you STILL source NOTHING.
If anyone is a troll, it's you, as trolls never cite.
I graduated LSU '85 mechanical engineering; while at Boeing space & defense finished my post grad in Physics & Mathematics '91, UW. You=0
What about string theory? Yes I know it and radio dating, you don't. I'LL ASK AGAIN, what's the major assumption in radio-dating possibly making estimates useless?
Carbon dating can only est 50k yrs at best, not deep time, and it also has error producing assumptions & limits. Do you know why? Beat it troll.
50k years at best? There are radioactive isotopes that have half-lives of 2-3 billion years. The errors come from the margins in which we can measure a half-life.
Not String theory, superstring theory, which holds the Big Bang concept, and where the big bang came from. The 11th dimension, particles and matter being able to exist in multiple spaces at the same time, etc.
You said we came from nothing to this accidentally, though super string AND evolution completely rule that out.
No ASS HOLE carbon dating is based on C-14 (half life<6000 yrs). It relies on tenacious assumptions, the atmosphere and cosmic radiation has not changed, remained constant. THERE IS NO DEBATE. 50,000 yrs is the limit of Carbon dating.
Radio Dating uses radioactive isotopes (usually uranium) in materials dumb ass. HOW STUPID ARE YOU? You NEED to answer me about the assumptions, limits and errors of the method or shut up. I am PROVING you are stupid and enjoying it.
You're proving I am stupid, yet you ADMIT you don't understand evolution and so you reject it off hand? You say we all got here randomly and by ACCIDENT, and you SHOW you don't understand history, culture, philosophy, science, RELIGION and by religion I mean MOSTLY your OWN!
Turn the other cheek buddy! Turn the OTHER cheek! Christian means you follow CHRIST'S teachings, yet you REJECT THEM out right!
And beyond that, you just PROVED your OWN stupidity in NOT knowing the form of dating used in fossil dating! It isn't carbon 14 dating, it's Radiometric dating, which has a half-life of 0.7 to 48.6 BILLION years. It uses an isotope series such as rubidium/strontium, thorium/lead, potassium/argon, argon/argon or uranium/lead.
So thanks for PROVING you're mentally retarded for someone who holds such advanced degrees. Enjoy your MYTHOLOGY.
You're right I don't understand evolution. Every one I ask doesn't either. Its a hodgepodge of theories w/ holes & contradict each other. The "facts" don't impress me.
Tell me the grand unified theory of evolution w/ proof. My wife is a Doctor. We have two good friends, PhD's in medical research. We've NEVER SEEN one species begot another species. Clearly there's "evolution" or adaptation or natural selection with-in a species, but it never becomes a new kind, ever. Show me
Gmc, what "holes" and "contradictions" does Evolution have? If you think that one species begets another species then you don't understand evolution at all!
Tell me, how would you know what a bird evolving into a duck would look like?
And furthermore, you say evolution, which you ADMIT you don't understand, has holes and is in contradiction with itself (somehow), but the Bible doesn't? Right...
And believe me gmcjetpilot, I'd say PLENTY to your face. It wouldn't bother me at all, and if it would make you angry enough to want to fight, it proves your LACK of ability to defend your INSANE beliefs.
The fact is, for your age, you seem to know NOTHING. Anyone with a masters in physics that doesn't AT LEAST know superstring theory is a joke. And you are a joke.
You don't believe in God? I guess all the billions of people who do know Jesus, will have to go on, despite you super genius. Phd's, even secular ones, at Universities all over the World, History, Philosophy and Theology praise the Bible as the greates morals, law and wisdom mankind has, are not as smart as you I guess. But why piss on other peoples JOY? What's wrong with you? You don't believe? Fine. NOW SHUT UP. No one cares.
WOW that is a Non Sequitur. A Red Herring. Please step away from the Bong or crack.
So you have no clue about radio dating or the major assumptions, errors and limitations? That is what I thought. You don't know history, philosophy, science, geopolitics, current events or religion. You are the complete package, a black hole of stupidity sucking out any intelligence in the universe.
I answered your question, I suppose you just didn't want to read it. I don't know history? Really? Apparently you forgot about the Crusades predating Jihad, you forgot about Imperialism, you forgot about our tampering with governments in the middle east destabilizing and placing dictators in power, you forget about US selling the weapons to the mujaheddin and Saddam Hussein. To you, Terrorism is just because we don't believe in the right God. Tell me, why aren't they doing this in China?
Jihad started in 622AD when mohamad and his merry band of murders started attacking caravans between mecca and medina. In 638AD muslims invaded and conquered Jerusalem (founded by Jews in 1300BC), killed all Jewish/Christian leaders, destroyed Churches and for 460 yrs raped, looted and forced pilgrims to confer or crucified the. The 1095 Crusades where in responce. The Church renounced it and appolgized. It's not per the teachings of Jesus? Ever hear a muslim apologize?
Really? They just went on Jihad for no reason? Oh wait, Jihad is a defensive concept and the Meccans were actively prosecuting the Muslims, killing them and keeping them OUT of their holy places. I don't know WHERE you get that they killed Jewish/Christian leaders, but whatever you want to believe!
And who cares if they haven't apologized? Islam is evil, Christianity is evil, as they BOTH promote bigotry and hate between faiths.
You forget about the Iranian protests going on RIGHT NOW against the the president and the Iatola. Apparently the ENTIRE populace supports terrorism, and the ENTIRE populace is made up of FANATICAL Islamist. I suppose the populace of Afghanistan is also ACHING to have the Taliban back, or that all the Iraqi's are dying to blow themselves up.
YOU don't understand current events, YOU don't understand religion, YOU don't understand culture. YOU want to enforce your beliefs on EVERYONE ELSE.
Iranians are GREAT! They are Persian. Mohammedans, Arabs invaded and conquered them by constant violent imperialism. Islam, muslims are the people who start slave trade in Africa; Islam invaded and looted over 40 countries, Iran being one of them; Islam murdered 100 million Christians and around 10 million Hindus and 1 million buddhists. Their false prophet married a 9 year old girl which makes him a pedophile. Yes its fact and its history. I think you just got owned.
Arabs didn't conquer Persia, the TURKS did, they were from the central Asian STEPS. Way to fuck up your history buddy. Christians were responsible for World War I, and WWII (Shintoism as well), and where do you get your figures for 100 MILLION Christians? Or is that just your own opinion.
Where in the BIBLE does it state that pedophilia is evil? Where! NO WHERE! That's where. And again, you're a dumb ass because of you NOT KNOWING how fossils are dated but THINKING you had a point.
And so by that SAME logic, billions of Muslims will have to go on, despite your super truth. Phd's, even secular ones, at Universities all over the World, praise the Qu'ran as the greatest of morals, law and wisdom mankind has, are not as smart as you I guess. But why piss on other people's JOY? What's wrong with you? You don't believe? Fine. NOW SHUT UP!
You have NO evidence that this is the case, yet you present it as fact, how presumptuous of you, and morally upstanding as well. Amazing.
Again READ MY WORDS. I DON'T GIVE A DAMM WHAT YOU THINK. You are already DEAD. I am just pointing out people do beleive. If you don't fine....... SHUT UP. Is your GOAL to end religion? Do you think that will make God go away and your sick shit not an eternal death sentence? Do you think religion is the root of all problems? Are you like Dawkins who says his GOAL is to destroy religion. WOW, that sounds tolerant and real scientific. Atheism has NOTHING to do with science.
Is it YOUR GOAL to end OTHER PEOPLE'S religion? If you don't give a DAMN what I think, stop replying! Because obviously you do!
You have not cited ANY sources for your claims in the scientific realm, you ONLY cite the Bible, and misquote the Qu'ran. You are FAR from TOLERANT as your FAITH commands you to be. What happened to turning the other cheek? What happened to FOLLOWING CHRIST? Why are YOU exempt from that aspect of YOUR religion.
NOPE I will reply all I want punk. I'll get the last word, so FU! I did not quoted the BIBLE YOU DID, and you misquoted it.
Quran?
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Atheist or Muslim lecturing Christianity to me? ha ha. I am not perfect, and I LOVE THY ENEMY, FORGIVE THEM and PRAY FOR THEM. It doesn't mean ignore islamic terrorism dumb ass.
So you LOVE THY ENEMY, and FORGIVE THEM, yet you want to KILL THEM ALL, and think their religion is EVIL. Amazing.
Explain WHY you confused carbon-14 with Radiometric, and THEN explain WHY you THOUGHT you had a point!
I knew you care what I say, that's why its important to you to get the last word, real mature for a 48 yr old. Arguing with someone half your age AND losing.
So you want to quote EXTREMISTS right? Not look at history? Okay, what about the Branch Dividian in Waco? What about Charlie Manson? What about Hitler? What about Charlemagne? The Teutonic Knights? The Knights Templar? Kang Yang Wook?
Neither religion is innocent, and Christians CERTAINLY have the higher body count.
I know you are a raging homosexual and really angry at Jesus for saying no-no on the same sex F'ing. Sorry. The vagina is made for the penis, and the anus is a one way valve for defecation, so simple, even you understand that, despite your "urges" (gross). Why do you think HIV transfer rate by anal sex is 2000 times greater than vaginal sex? Add the fact gay men have many anonymous partners with no protection chances are equal to committing suicide. IT COSTS ALL OF SOCIETY.
Why do you keep bringing up string theory? Than you say I don't know it's a joke? In your opinion I assume. I NEVER MADE A COMMENT ABOUT IT. That is serious Straw Man BS you got going on.
String theory is a THEORY and explains gaps in current theories, not the least of which is gravity, currently thought to be a distortion in space-time continuum. My focus was heat transfer in composites and mechanics not theoretical physics, but do keep on on science journals. You? ha ha!
I owned you kid. I showed that you're a know nothing bull shit fool. You worship yourself and think the universe revolves around your anus. If you don't believe in God fine; live your Godless life. But shut up. Why piss on other peoples spiritual Joy? What's wrong with you, besides you are DEAD inside? See your hypocrisy. You defend islam and want people to worship your homogay urges, lie it's normal when it's not? If we don't you'll attack Jesus? LOL! That's INSANE & evil.
You say I worship myself? Interesting, you say I piss on other people's spiritual joy? You do that with Islam, Pagan traditions, homosexuals, Atheists, etc! What's wrong with you, besides you think YOU have the truth.
Homogay, nice, very nice. Lie, it's normal when it's not?
Saying a fictitious magic man isn't real is evil and insane? I think believing you have actually TALKED to an imaginary invisible wizard is FAR more insane, and much more instep with the definition of the term psychotic.
When Islam TERRORIZED the World, a thing called 9/11 and the +14,400 islamic terrorist attacks since, IT BECAME MY BUSINESS ASS HOLE. You threaten & attack my Nation, my family, religion, culture and me, in self defense I'll KILL YOU. Jesus didn't say be a lamb to the slaughter. I'll guard my family & our souls.
Homosexuality is your joy? I don't care if you butt fuck your self to death, it's you're deal and you're already dead. Don't force that crap on me or society.
GMC, so when they started Jihads as a response to the crusades, the Christians deserved to be KILLED in self defense right?
When imperialist Christian powers invaded and conquered Muslim lands, raped, murdered and oppressed the people, they were JUSTIFIED in KILLING Christians in self defense right?
What part of me being MARRIED do you not understand? I have a wife, pregnant with my child. I've already stated this, is this your lame attempt at discrediting me? It only proves your xenophobia.
We're back to xenophobia? ha ha. You love that word. I'm ANTI xenophobia. My new neighbors across the street are Indian. I walked over and knocked on their door just to say hello. At a restaurant, three sisters work, when they see me and my wife we give each other a big hug. We love them, nice people. They are Mexican. You don't know me ass hole.
YOU PROJECT YOUR HATE FOR CHRISTIANS. You are the Hater. You would be the FIRST to persecute and kill Christian if you could.
But you ACCEPT them because they are WITHIN the society, you ARE Xenophobic AGAINST Islam. You ARE xenophobic AGAINST homosexuals. You ARE xenophobic AGAINST pagans. These are facts based off your OWN testimony!
You look at fanatics and then judge the ENTIRE religion, so we should judge Christianity to no less a standard, and the Christian fundamentalists are JUST AS BAD. You say the CHURCH apologized, but YOU cannot, for either your faith's or our countries' failings.
Islam is not a RACE. They can enjoy their pagan rituals and culture all they want, but it's 7th century tribal territorial medieval barbaric laws, political precepts and backward misogynistic culture is hell bent on Jihad, marterdom and domination. Islam IS MORE than a religion, even muslims say this. It's a political and legal system that controls every aspect of society with draconian controls of fear and violence, DEMANDING muslims FIGHT TO MAKE ALL RELGION ONLY FOR ISLAM.
No, Islam is a RELIGION, and XENOPHOBIA INCLUDES RELIGIONS!!!
Christianity is JUST as FILLED with Pagan traditions and has it's ENTIRE concept of Jesus Christ, duality, Armageddon AND Hell COMPLETELY stolen RIGHT from the Zoroastrian Religion.
Islamic countries are the worst places on earth, poor, repressed, illiterate, violent, abuse human rights of woman/children and centers of terrorism. They get 100's of millions in aid, but they buy guns not play grounds for kids. They use kids for terrorism. GOOD FOR YOU? Yes I think Judeo-Christianity is better than Islam's false flawed ideology, and Our Democracy and FREEDOM is better than Totalitarian theocracies and NO freedom of religion or speech. It is a CULT. Sue me.
Not all muslims are radical or terrorist. It doesn't matter. The ideology is EXTREME, hateful & intolerant. Look at Europe, they're Dhimmi in fear (look it up). You want that ideology, America to EMBRACE ISLAM? Be a muslim. I'm proud of my Religion, Culture & Nation-Americas accomplishments are great & good for the World. NOTHING wrong pointing out OBVIOUS Islamic lies, flaws and faults. IT IS OK TO CRITICIZE ISLAM YOU IDIOT. Your goto argument, is attack Jesus? That is telling.
FINALLY you say not all Muslims are radical or terrorists! On the religion being hateful & intolerant, it's only that way when fundamentalists like YOURSELF getting to it. The EXACT SAME is true with Judaism (Zionists) and Christianity!
Congrats! You prove that NUT CASES like yourself destroy tol
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DMI6718234 3 months ago
This chick is complementing obama on the fact that he is changing the rhetoric on the war... Sweeeeeet....
willsbanana 9 months ago
Keith Olbermann Fired by COMCAST
dewerbylhserf 1 year ago
Cenk and Olbermann .... a match made in douche-land.
PigskinJunkies 1 year ago
@PigskinJunkies
Cenk and Olbermann are ecumenical religious faggots who "spread the other cheek" for Islamic butt pirates.
SirWinstonChurchill 1 year ago
@SirWinstonChurchill ~ i don't think you're stable. you're just yelling obscenities, and that proves what? you're an unstable fucking idiot? well yeah, it actually does.
tomitstube 1 year ago
@tomitstube
MSDNC got tired of the cum guzzling faggot not making any money...
Rachel Maddow might be next, but she is the only one there who looks like she has a dick.
But don't choke your chickens just yet...
SirWinstonChurchill 1 year ago
@SirWinstonChurchill are you an idiot, he quit because of his father. Dumbass.
SirRavin 9 months ago
@SirWinstonChurchill What the fuck are you talking about?
lamaya43 8 months ago
when Keith speaks, you listen!!!
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dewerbylhserf 1 year ago
I don't know hwy but your comment made me LOL in a non sarcastic type of way!
This was VERY professional like... you feel the atmosphere change with Keith Olberman in the room!
upplsuckimcool16 1 year ago
2:52 wtf is Cenk doing?
theaceofspades39 1 year ago
@theaceofspades39 he looks like a guido!!
danyou868 1 year ago
fuckin a they fixed skipping the 15 sec ads
theaceofspades39 1 year ago
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Cenk is such a fat fuck
beefking69er 1 year ago
I want them to eat dinner. Then, I stalk them to the place and start eating their table.
MrGish1 1 year ago
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KingWilliamMB 1 year ago
the false illusion is that it's a matter of winning or losing. The truth is that war makes money, LOTS and LOTS of money, not for our country, but our politicians, and it's rather a matter of how long they can keep them "at war", how long we can occupy other countries.
Erilis666 1 year ago
too civilized a debate.....meh
Newtttton 1 year ago
@Newtttton lol nice
Erilis666 1 year ago
Damn it's almost like watching Canadian television
Sorcoral 1 year ago
@Sorcoral, where debates are actually intelligent and civilized XD.
IamCanadian3333 1 year ago
@Sorcoral i know that was nuts.
Erilis666 1 year ago
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ndbrandt 1 year ago
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and those were just a few of the explicit rules.
The list of atrocities committed or commanded by God is even more disgusting. No pedophilia per se, but offering of one's own (grown?) children for sex, murder of women & children, incest, genocide, torture, slavery, you name it, the Christian God has either done it or commanded it be done.
ndbrandt 1 year ago
@ndbrandt
Bible verses? You're wrong, out right lying or perverting the Bible badly. Same on you. I can back up what I say with Quran verses, hadith verses, history and the actual words and deeds of muslims past and present. So lets go.... take one at a time. With all the islamic terrorism, abuse of woman and children in Islamic culture, you are pissed at Jesus? Where were the muslims at Hatti or Chile? Religion of Peace this week gave us suicide bombers Russia. Google religionofpeace com
gmcjetpilot 1 year ago
@gmcjetpilot Now, george, if you stay away from bullshit sites like "gotquestions..org" and learn real science you won't make yourself look like such a fool. Can't be bothered to watch the "Misquoting Jesus" video? By Bart Ehrman...a BIBLE SCHOLAR. It's just information that's been known for 302 YRS, but you have no clue about. Why are you so scared?
Say "Hi" to Julie for me....
Mirror4u2 1 year ago
@gmcjetpilot Yes, george: the bible is full of holes...that's no secret. I, personally, appreciate your war on islam, but,sheesh, get some facts...some actual information. Check out:
TXHalabi channel. Straight from the holy book.
And, please, wake up about your bible...it's full of contradictions. Just watch "Misquoting Jesus". You cannot understand the words of Jesus...if you don't know what the words were....just watch it. A lot of what you say about the bible is...flat out wrong.
Mirror4u2 1 year ago
@gmcjetpilot
* Rape victims must be killed (Deuteronomy 22:23-24)
* Rape victims must marry their attackers (Deuteronomy 22:28-29)
* Children must be beaten (Proverbs 23:13-14)
* Non-Christians must be killed (2 Chronicles 15:13, John 15:6, etc.)
* Babies conceived in adultery must be aborted Numbers (5:11-31)
* In church, women may not speak & those without headscarves must have their heads shaven (1 Corinthians 11:4-5, 14:34)
* Slaves should be treated as property (Leviticus 25:44-46)
ndbrandt 1 year ago
@gmcjetpilot
Don't bear false witness against others (Exodus 20:16)
As in: don't say I'm lying if I'm not.
I backed up exactly what I said with citations. I am not "wrong" or "outright lying" (check the verses) or perverting the Bible (read before & after to see if I'm taking them out of context).
I'd point out that you should Google "Muslim Americans Strive to Help Earthquake-Ravaged Haiti." but again I agree that much of the letter of the Quran is disgusting, just as is much of the Bible.
ndbrandt 1 year ago
@ndbrandt
*Don't bear false witness against others (Exodus 20:16)
As in: don't say I'm lying if I'm not.
You are a LIAR! YOU QUOTE MINE FROM ATHEIST AND ISLAMIC SITES... You gave your false atheist commentary to Bible verses YOU FALSE WHITNESS. You don't know what you are talking. Clearly you never read the Bible. To say ISLAM, the religion of mohammad & allah has ANYTHING to do with Judeo Christianity, shows your ignorance and contempt for God.
gmcjetpilot 1 year ago
@ndbrandt
* Rape victims must be killed (Deuteronomy 22:23-24)
Google: answering-islam org/Shamoun/ot_and_rape
Slavery and rape of slaves or woman you take in battle is a given in Islam. Still in FULL affect. Deuteronomy is OLD TESTAMENT..... very specific time and place. Islam is 1400 years of Jihad and violence to present day, with only periods of decline and isolation.
gmcjetpilot 1 year ago
@gmcjetpilot
Hmmmmm
A time & place when God says rape victims should be killed?
What kind of horrible God says that?
Jesus believed that the Old Testament was the Word of God. He said, "The Scripture cannot be broken" (John 10:35). He also indicated that it was indestructible: "Until Heaven and earth pass away, not the smallest letter or stroke shall pass away from the law, until all is accomplished" (Matthew 5:18).
So Jesus wants this too?
ndbrandt 1 year ago
@ndbrandt
"* Children must be beaten (Proverbs 23:13-14)"
Proverbs 23:13-14 - Does NOT say beat them liar. It means don't fail to correct them and spanking them will not kill them. You are a rebelling child and need some rod. But it is too late. Your parents failed you, for which you became a God hating heathen and I suspect a homosexual..
Google: gotquestions org/disciplining-children
Islam and Honor KILLING is Islamic for woman and apostates
gmcjetpilot 1 year ago
@gmcjetpilot
Ha Ha!
"You are a rebelling child and need some rod." Are you a Catholic priest?
I tried to have a reasoned argument with you, but you are not open to facts, nor willing to construct your own arguments, instead just spamming for another site. You attack the messenger & have no answer to horrors of the Bible other than to say "it was a different time" & "Islam does it worse!"
BTW: It never says "spanking" - it says to hit your children with a stick.
ndbrandt 1 year ago
@ndbrandt
"* Non-Christians must be killed (2 Chronicles 15:13, John 15:6, etc.)"
2 Chronicles 15:13, written 3300 years ago during time of war (being attacked) for old testament people, Israelites, Mosaic laws. Jesus change all this. Old testament days are over. These passages are for specific people and times.
Google: gotquestions org/war-Bible
Quran 2.191, 8.39 fight until religion is only for islam
Quran 9.123 kill infidels near, let them find hardness in you
gmcjetpilot 1 year ago
@ndbrandt
"* Non-Christians must be killed (2 Chronicles 15:13, John 15:6, etc.)"
John 15:6. Read it on an intellectual level, not a childish quote mining one. "The grace of God is not a license to sin. Believers who play with fire will get burned. Sin is fire. Fiery judgment awaits the unfruitful, non-abiding believer." I believe that. Sue me. You don't believe so why worry. God judges. In Islam Muslims judge & kill for allah.
gmcjetpilot 1 year ago
@gmcjetpilot
I love that you dismiss me as a "quote miner." Actually using quotes I think are innately flawed to show a text is infallible. I have not taken anything out of context.
If you want to interpret it that way, that's awesome. I'll grant you that quote was ambiguous, unlike
2 Chronicles 15:13 "All who would not seek the LORD, the God of Israel, were to be put to death, whether small or great, man or woman."
or
Deuteronomy 13: 6-9
Let me guess, a specific place and time?
ndbrandt 1 year ago
@ndbrandt
*In church, women may not speak & those without head scarves must have their
heads scarves (1 Corinthians 11:4-5, 14:34) Google:
gotquestions org/head-coverings
gotquestions org/women-silent-church
gmcjetpilot 1 year ago
gmcjetpilot 1 year ago
@gmcjetpilot
Fact: The Bible, in Leviticus & Exodus, condones slavery.
Leviticus 25:44 "Your male and female slaves are to come from the nations around you; from them you may buy slaves. 45 You may also buy some of the temporary residents living among you and members of their clans born in your country, and they will become your property. 46 You can will them to your children as inherited property and can make them slaves for life, but you must not rule over your fellow Israelites ruthlessly"
ndbrandt 1 year ago
@ndbrandt
No one said all atheist are good.
Obviously Mao & Stalin are evil, as were Christians like Hitler & Mussolini & Ivan the Terrible & Vlad the Impaler & Leopold II.
(Whether or not you believe him, Hitler continually stated his faith & was never excommunicated nor condemned by his church. He often quoted On the Jews and their Lies by Martin Luther.)
What's you're point about the Quran? It, like the Bible, is full of horrible things I don't believe. Stop quoting it to me.
ndbrandt 1 year ago
@ndbrandt
The word of God is 3/4th of a million words. You think you understand it by quote mining from atheist web sites? The Bible has been studied for 1700-3000 years. We know. PhD's DISAGREE WITH YOU. I read the BIBLE and MAKE MY OWN MIND UP WITH PRAYFUL CONTIMPLATION. You just want to attack it. Fine have at it. At least we will not KILL you like Muslims do if you criticizes islam, draw a cartoon or make a movie quoting the quran.
gmcjetpilot 1 year ago
@gmcjetpilot If it a book is purpotedly infallible, a single flaw destros its entire premise. Justify this verse for me, would you, Deuteronomy 22: 28-29 "If a man fids a virgin and rapes her, he must give her father fity shekels, and she shall be his wife.
If you can't justify that or put it in context, then it is a moral flaw, and a book from the creator of the universe would have no such things
arachnophile01 1 year ago
@arachnophile01
Dear Smart Ass: Google & scroll down about 4/5ths
answering-islam org/Shamoun/ot_and_rape
1) RAPE is wrong. 2) Read the OLD testament (for specific time and people, aka moses 3300 yrs ago) in context & Hebrew. RAPE? Actual context/word is decisive, seduce, persuade the woman to have sex, aka consensual but immoral never the less. There's no condoning rape nor is the woman obligated to marry. Over riding is Jesus, New Testament Law, which says follow civil laws. Question?
gmcjetpilot 1 year ago
@arachnophile01
"If you can't justify that or put it in context"
I just did in my previous post. You've been "pwned". Do you see Christians demanding shekels, forced marriages of rapist and raped woman? NO! Why because it NEVER was a law. Regardless no relevance to Christians, Jesus, New Testament people, you ignorant rebelling child. You damn yourself being a false witness against God. Blaspheming is bad heathen! Get a study Bible; take a Bible basics class from a Christian.
gmcjetpilot 1 year ago
@gmcjetpilot You left 3 comments, one of which was just "hahaa, in your face" so I won't respond to that portion of it. However, a few things you said were remotely civil discussion, so I shall adress those. Although Modern =/= Ancient Hebrew, I am learned in neither, so I will concede the point. However, I still find one thing absolutely wrong. If he's paying the father, than yes she's obliged to marry, it's all up to the father. And what principle does that set? TBC
arachnophile01 1 year ago
@gmcjetpilot cont.As long as you have your hymen, you belong to dad? Your second point was "The old testament doesn't apply" to which I might bring up things like "I have not come to abolish..." or "let not a single stroke" but I don't have to, because in your second comment to me, you said "You have born false witness" which, news flash, is one of the first ten commandments of the Old Testament. You say "you damn yourself by blaspheming" and also "take Christianity from Christians" TBC
arachnophile01 1 year ago
@gmcjetpilot But if I said " Blasphemy gets you cookies in the afterlife" shouldn't you 'take blasphemy from a blasphemer.' And okay, I really oversimplified what you have to do for a gun permit, truth be told I've only been to a range once in my life and no experience with guns otherwise, my point was, a handgun, regardless of caliber, is not a credential, and should not be relevent on this forum
arachnophile01 1 year ago
@ndbrandt
You're a child throwing a tantrum, using me for a surrogate to exercise your rebellion and attention you seek. I represent your parents or people mean to you? I don't know what mental condition you're dealing with, but I'm done with you. I'll pray for you. May be it's just the arrogance of your youth, thinking you know it all. True wisdom, the greatest mankind has, is the in Bible. I have things to do. I LOVE JESUS (and so the devil in you must go crazy now).
gmcjetpilot 1 year ago
@ndbrandt
Do you THINK? Do you think YOU, an uneducated person who has no scholarly level of education in anything, much less history, philosophy, theology, who is personally biased and hypocritical, is going to TELL ME what the BIBLE SAYS? Are you going to tell me something I never heard before or thought about? Make me CONVERT to atheism? LOL!
gmcjetpilot 1 year ago
@gmcjetpilot
Agreed this is fruitless. I can be converted by facts, but you cannot be.
ndbrandt 1 year ago
@gmcjetpilot No, but Bart Ehrman BIBLE SCHOLAR will tell you about the bible in the "Misquoting Jesus" video that you apparently REFUSE to watch. Why are you so scared, little man?
Mirror4u2 1 year ago
@Mirror4u2
Lee's Response to Bart D. Ehrman's Book, "Misquoting Jesus"
youtube com/watch?v=cqpo7gddyh4
Ehrman vs. Luke and Mark
youtube com/watch?v=ZDrdQuk1Jwk
Bart Ehrman on NPR
youtube com/watch?v=xyQPNrQxqmo
gmcjetpilot 1 year ago
@gmcjetpilot Yeah, I've seen strobel. Nice how he down plays everything as not a big deal, but never mentions the addition of the TRINITY, or the 12 verses of mark....you know: it's all just trivial meaningless stuff. He's a liar and deceiver and that's obvious. If you can'[t see it--ask yourself WHY.
Mirror4u2 1 year ago
@Mirror4u2 Books to read:
Reinventing Jesus by MJ Sawyer, Dan Wallace, and J. Komoszewski
Reasonable Faith by William Craig
Scaling the Secular City, by JP Moreland
gmcjetpilot 1 year ago
@Mirror4u2
I read "Misquoting Jesus". It's in parts factual, but on the whole, is over blown with massively erroneous liberal secular conclusions, for which his facts don't support. In a word, he fails. There is nothing new. You think Christians live in fear and hide in a cave. We challenge our faith and it makes us and our faith stronger... and you hate that. In his lectures he brings up the topics of homosexuality and abortion early. No doubt he has a liberal homosexual agenda.
gmcjetpilot 1 year ago
@gmcjetpilot Oh, that's non-sense. Proverbs 30:5 "Every word of God is pure: he is a shield unto them that put their trust in him." Look it up. An imperfect work by a prefect god--Yeah, that makes a lot of sense. The bible is full of holes, errors, mistakes, contradictions--If you believe in a god that inspired THAT.....you're dumber than I thought your are. It doesn't take anything more then common sense to refute the bible, but there IS a whole lot more.
Mirror4u2 1 year ago
@gmcjetpilot "liberal secular conclusions"....yeah, that's what you want to see. The contradictions, errors and mistakes of the bible are not "liberal secular conclusions"...they are just THERE. You believe in a god that can't seem to get much right, so why would he get his bible right? LMAO! He fucked up creating the angels (satan), he fucked up creating man (sin), he tried wiping folks out in small and large groups ( sodom/gamorrah), then tried to wipe the planet, but being an idiot god....
Mirror4u2 1 year ago
@gmcjetpilot kept a few sinners (noah et al), that shit didn't work, so he ended up coming down in the flesh HIMSELF to prove to HIMSELF that one could lead a "perfect" life, ended up sacrificing HIMSELF to HIMSELF to appease HIMSELF....and even that shit didn't work. LOOK at everything: It's STILL fucked up! You BELIEVE in that shit. WoW! How DESPERATE you are to be "Special" in the universe. LMAO!!! And now to find out your are a PRIMATE!! LMAO!!! A monkey-man with a monkey-god!! LMAO!!!
Mirror4u2 1 year ago
@Mirror4u2 lol i love u
Erilis666 1 year ago
@gmcjetpilot the homosexual agenda is not just so they can get married and consummate their love, the truth is they plan on turning EVERYONE gay. What they do see, is they wear all black clothes and sneak up to your house at night. They wait in the bushes outside your window for your wife and kids to sit down at the table for dinner, and that's when they strike. BAM! They burst open the door, come in, and start fucking you in the ass! It's happening. Wake up America... wake up.
Erilis666 1 year ago
@Erilis666
I don't talk to douche bags who put sign of beast in their screen name.
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"consummate their love". Eweee & BS! Gays can live together, get company benefits (many of them incl'd mine), hire a lawyer, give each power of attorney to half their stuff if they break up. Gay marriage is a canard. My wife has a CCW, carries a 9mm. I hold a Federal permit for a gun. What if? We'd shoot you in the head ass hole. We also live in a gated community; keeps idiots out, like you.
geeflyboy 1 year ago
@geeflyboy you just got rolled
Sorcoral 1 year ago
@geeflyboy you are talking to a douchebag who put the sign of the beast in his or her screen name unless you admit that he or she is not a douchebag. Do you lack any sense of sarcasm? And carrying a gun is not impressive, anyone can pass the little test by reading the little study guide that's writtten at a fifth grade level, and firearms are not that expensive. A community that keeps idiots out? I'd live there except, judging by your comments, it does not appear foolproof
arachnophile01 1 year ago
@arachnophile01
Actually I conceal carry with a federal license not state. Even CCW permits for most states requires a class (6-15 hours) and hands on range tests, written test and of course background and license fees. As far as my education I finished undergrad mechanical engineering LSU '85 and post grad UW '91, while I was working for Boeing Aircraft in Seattle. How about you? Are you smarter than a 5th grader? Still live with Mom? Beat it troll.
gmcjetpilot 1 year ago
@Erilis666 damn I hate you, took me 2 hours to remember who said that stuff and it was bugging me.
Sorcoral 1 year ago
@Mirror4u2
On Ehrman's book, Michael J. Kruger: "a book full of ironies","intellectual schizophrenia.","it purports to be about unbiased history but rarely presents an opposing viewpoint; ironic it claims to follow scholarly consensus but breaks from it so often; ironic it insists on the historical-critical method but then reads the gospels with a modernist, overly-literal hermeneutic. He goes on to say he tells us no one view of early Christianity is correct yet tells us which one is right.
gmcjetpilot 1 year ago
@ndbrandt
Leviticus is old testament. The WORD slave in the Bible comes from the hebrew that means servant... LOOK IT UP. Many slaves were like migrant farm workers of today or personal assistants.... It was a job. They had contracts. Many servants or "slaves" were part of the family and voluntarily stayed with them for life. This was 3300 years ago. Christians and Jews were also slaves. You sound mad about culture and people 3300 yrs ago. THOSE DAYS ARE OVER. GET OVER IT.
gmcjetpilot 1 year ago
This comment has received too many negative votes show
hahaha of course that lefty partisan hack Cenk shows up on the Hackiest leftiest partisan fuck up's show.
Fuck Cenk, and FUCK Olbermann and his loudmouth arrogant vitriolic bullshit.
Say what you will about Fox news, but they have no one as angry and cruel as Olbermann.
VegasBilgeRat 1 year ago
Are you kidding. Olbermann is meaner than glenn beck?? Really? Beck is encouraging violence. No one on msnbc does that.
doc7114 1 year ago
@VegasBilgeRat
"Fuck Cenk, and FUCK Olbermann and his loudmouth arrogant vitriolic bullshit."
A well-reasoned response but a small hint: don't call someone out for being a loudmouth, vitriolic or angry in a loudmouth, vitriolic, angry way.
ndbrandt 1 year ago
i fight fire with fire
VegasBilgeRat 1 year ago
she's hot
danyou868 1 year ago
That Neo Lib lady has to stop pledging to her party.
That's no different to the Neo Cons who stood up for Bush.
GovernmentSham912 1 year ago
so two democrats debating.. lol that's olbermann for ya
Chslosers 1 year ago
This vid is an interesting match-up: Both Cenk and Karen Finney are articulate people, but neither one is particularly insightful. I wonder if that was deliberate on the part of MSNBC...
Neb0l 1 year ago
@Block -
Your opinion matters a lot. No, really.
MrRedFredSaid 1 year ago
This is how the right and the left wing should debate the left wing is the only rational people left.
MrShadeBlade 1 year ago 11
@Blockygraphics
You need some more love in your life, apparently you have a lack of it :)
SinisterSkip 1 year ago 2
@Blockyg
I agree except for the call of violence to stifle free speech. I'm not against violence for those who would be violent against us, in self defense. Our response should be a thousand fold w/ extreme prejudice. Arabs, muslims, 3rd World understands power & violence. That's their culture. To appeal to them with our FREEDOM of speech & religion, democratic Gov & Laws, Judeo-Christian religion/culture is silly. That's the source of their contempt & hatred of us, for want to destroy it (Us).
gmcjetpilot 1 year ago
Cenk for president!
TYT for global!
SinisterSkip 2 years ago 32
A look Cenk will regret having on this show at 4:45
upplsuckimcool16 1 year ago
I am Catholic and we talk about Jesus in church, we accept him as the Son of God and our savior, we say all the same things that the "saved" Protestants do. What's important is loving God, serving HIm and loving your neighbor as yourself. LordSnow, you sound like a Pharasee. There is nothing more absurd than Christians arguing over who got it right. Go out and feed a homeless man instead!
BHallBrowser 2 years ago
I wonder how many homeless people you could have fed instead of buying a computer. Tsk tsk.
Timorio 2 years ago
My point is that all he does is spew his own opinions in a "news" format which is disingenuous. The facts that back up my point are laid out by this smarmy, smug, arrogant pseudo-news program called TYT. Look there are so many big mouths like him out there, past and present, I only commented on him and TYT. Others include : Jesse Jackson, Michael Moore(the king of this), Rush Limbaugh, Al Sharpton, Sean Penn, George Clooney, Rachael Maddow, Mike Huckabee and Mahmoud Ahmadinejad( non-American) HA
hank262 2 years ago
What I am saying is that He and those like him are pseudo-news men. They make a name for themselves through negativity and contrarian attitudes. If you have ever watched TYT on youtube you should know what I mean. He rails against this republic and its ideal. He rails against capitalism, yet he profits off it. As an American he is afforded the freedom to speak his opinion without censorship(responsibly). As a human he has the right to do so.
hank262 2 years ago
This guy Cenk and his " minions" are nothing more than grifters, scamming for money. He says nothing of substance. He is like walking cliff notes. If you ever watch him, he never backs himself up with any facts. I guess we don't need facts anymore. Do you realize how much money he makes off of corporate sponsorship. He is comfortable. He has no honor or conscience. The unfortunate truth is that people like him "succeed" (monetarily). Too bad he can't take it with him. Forget posterity.
hank262 2 years ago
@hank262, do you realize how little these guys make off of corporate sponsors? Fox News makes MILLIONS, Rush Limbaugh makes MILLIONS, Glenn Beck makes MILLIONS, Shaun Hannity makes MILLIONS, Bill O'Rielly makes MILLIONS!
Look at their financial reports! Just take a look, I doubt you will.
BusinessIDBAI 2 years ago
Did you even read my posting?
hank262 2 years ago
Yup, did you?
BusinessIDBAI 2 years ago
I think I listed Rush Limbaugh, and others
hank262 2 years ago
I would paste it, but you can reread it for yourself. If that is what you mean, then thank you for your clarification.
BusinessIDBAI 2 years ago
Turns out in a later comment you did mention Rush Limbaugh, but still no mention of any from Fox News outside of Mike Huckabee. Not only that but you state Michael Moore is the king of disingenuousness, when in all reality MOST of what he says can be verified as fact.
Qualifier there is MOST, he does overstep bounds, but that can be expected of any of us, especially those with a profit motive behind their speech.
BusinessIDBAI 2 years ago
You seem like a rational human. Refreshing to run into someone whom I more than like disagree with in every aspect of the political world. I am so sick of the uncivilized manner in which liberal and conservatives "debate". I put no stock in most of what our media outlets spew forth.
hank262 2 years ago
I'll agree Hank262, I don't watch the media, I REFUSE to watch Fox, or MSNBC. The only Media I like would be NPR due to Science Friday, and their actual discussion panels with many experts from all sides of the political spectrum.
BusinessIDBAI 2 years ago
@BusinessIDBAI
What does the income of Fox on air idiots have to do with all the tea in China? You are a crazy fool.
gmcjetpilot 2 years ago
Gmc, how does what you just said make sense in ANY fashion? He stated that TYT makes a ton of money off corporate sponsorship, however, he overlooks the major news networks (primarily Fox, being the largest, and most targeted for advertising) make off advertisements, that's what it has to do with "tea in China."
You are aware I can have separate discussions on separate topics with separate people, right?
BusinessIDBAI 2 years ago
Obama lost right here and there his election in 2012,period. He will be known as not keeping his word at his compaign and his words about change. This is not why I voted for Obama, I voted for Obama because he promised REAL healthcare, He promised he would fight against all insurance companies,he promised he would end the war and bring every single troop home....yet, everyhting is going to other way, insurance companies will still control and run the show and now he sending more troops...
muratshawn 2 years ago
God is just an ideal, a concept, a goal...
God is ''perfect, infinite, all-powerful, all-knowing'' ...isnt that what every human being strives for?
God is just the ultimate superhero, nothing more.
But fuck him, Batman rules.
IC1101 2 years ago 2
XD Yeah!
baltrius 2 years ago
gmcjetpilot relax man, take a breath. We get it man, we know how you conservatives think.
Yes Islam is the enemy... we get it. Yesterday it was Communism, today its Islam. People like you need enemies in your life : ) You radical Christians need to have a Satan in this world so you can feel good about yourself.
Fucking paranoid fascists.
IC1101 2 years ago 4
@Zander73
I hope you understand ISLAM is NOT about religion. OH NO! It's much more. It is about CHANGING the LAND to ISLAM, changing the government, changing the culture, changing the law and of course changing the religion to ONLY ISLAM. The only exceptions is a small Dhimmi group used for subjugated labor or paying extra tax, aka jyiza extortion. The dhimmi can practice their religion but only if it's invisible. May be we should do that to THEM?
islam and the west, part 1
=X1AGitCGlns
gmcjetpilot 2 years ago
@gmcjetpilot, since you say that Islam tells you to kill the non-believers, and is therefore evil, please show me how Christianity is better.
Case in point, Luke19:27, this is JESUS speaking! What does Jesus say?
"But those mine enemies, which would not that I should reign over them, bring hither, and slay them before me."
Sounds so peaceful, and completely opposite of what Mohammad said. Tisk tisk you xenophobe.
BusinessIDBAI 2 years ago
@BusinessIDBAI
Do you have a GOOGLE DEFICIENCY? It does NOT mean JIHAD, GO KILL PEOPLE NOW-TODAY? IT'S A PARABLE OF GOD SPEAKING & JUDGING in the END DAY!
ALL CHRISTIANS AGREE LUKE 19:27 DOES NOT MEAN KILL FOR GOD. God will Judge in the end. God Judges not muslims or their moslum god allah. Who's causing TERRORISM? Christians? No, self identified MUSLIMS quoting quran & yell ALLAH AKBAR JUST BEFORE KILLING PEOPLE ARE TERRORIST. Google:
answeringmuslims com violence-in-islam-vs-violence-in
gmcjetpilot 2 years ago
Hey GMC, that's what JESUS SAYS! So, you say that Christians agree that it does not mean to kill for God? Look up on Google, the very thing you ordered of me, look for Muslims who are against terrorist acts, look up Muslims claiming the exact thing!
Both your religions are the same! Both religions are disgusting, both are violent as hell, both are arrogant, and NEITHER deserves to exists due to the behavior of their followers. You think you're a good Christian? You're a hateful bigot!
BusinessIDBAI 2 years ago
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gmcjetpilot 2 years ago
@BusinessIDBAI
Don't HEY me; you're a punk, Boy. I don't care what muslims say. LOOK at the NEWS, what muslims really say & do and their 1400 yr history of violence idiot.
No both religions are not the same, but you wouldn't know. You don't know anything about any religion, history, philosophy or science. You're a punk with a big mouth. Unfortunately the internet allows children like you to play on the computer & spew your immature, childish, ignorant, bigoted bull shit. NO YOU ARE! Ha Ha!
gmcjetpilot 2 years ago
@BusinessIDBAI
Tisk tisk? You are 24 and so bigoted & hateful. Looking at your channel you're anti-Christ, pro-homosexuality. Humm, that would explain your attitude. Not sure there's an excuse for you lying, being dishonest and defending Islam. I find it hilarious that atheist attack Jesus to defend Islam but ignorant of both? Muslims and artiest are the same godless team, delusional and decived by satan. I don't have a xenophobic bone in my body, I am just anti-stupidity. You are stupid.
gmcjetpilot 2 years ago
Islam is just as guilty as Christianity, both have HUGE faults, and both have oceans of blood on their hands.
You don't know what Xenophobia is apparently, and if you were anti-stupid, you'd have a self-inflicted gunshot wound penetrating your skull.
Oh my god! I think people should have rights under the law! Oh my god! Christ and Mohammad are both suppressive dictatorial figures! Oh my god! Your religion is based off a fairy tale that I refuse to accept as it's WRONG! How horrible of me.
BusinessIDBAI 2 years ago
Amazing Gmcjetpilot, you actually shut up after I call you out on your own hypocrisy on Islam when Jesus himself says kill folks who don't believe!
Your weak excuse of, "It's a parable for the end times!" doesn't hold water, as it's STILL JESUS saying KILL those who don't believe in me! Regardless of when it is!
You also have God commanding you to stone witches AND those who participate in Idolatry, ergo, folks who don't believe! HYPOCRITE!
BusinessIDBAI 2 years ago
@BusinessIDBAI
Amazing you're still spewing BS troll. I answered you. Look it up. You're ignorant and a liar boy.
Stone witches? ha ha where does it say that? Are you talking about 1700 Salam? Ha ha take a history lesson. It had nothing to do with Christianity and more to do with paranoia from constant Indian attacks, harsh conditions and a fungus that caused LSD type hallucinations. It was adjudicated by the court. Your stupidity is vast. Take your anti-Christ crap and suck it HYPOCRITE!
gmcjetpilot 2 years ago
Deuteronomy 13:10, 17:5, 22:21.
For witches, Exodus 22:17. So you're saying it had everything to do with Indian attacks? Now who's the liar?
Leviticus 19:31, 20:27, Deuteronomy 18:10-13, and so on.
You STILL haven't spoken to Idolatry, as you know that means KILL NONBELIEVERS! Oh my god! You're a HUGE hypocrite! And now you also say that the court can make amendments to the bible? Not following there, go figure, as you have no logic.
BusinessIDBAI 2 years ago
@BusinessIDBAI
Old testament? Those days are over. Those where very specific and violent times. They no longer apply. These are New Testament days after the Prince of Peace died for our Sins.
Witch hunts and Indian wars are ALL the fault of Jesus Christ and the Teachings in the BIBLE? HA HA HA HA! Proof please?
So you believe every came from nothing out of no where for no reason by random chance & accident? In your case you are a fluke of the universe with no reason to exist or live.
gmcjetpilot 2 years ago
So the old testiment is NOT a part of your religion? And GOD did not lay out those commandments? And then for some reason change? I thought he was perfect, and always perfect, and therefore ANY change would make him imperfect. CONTRADICTIONS!
And again, seeing as you don't listen, Luke 19:27, he clearly says kill nonbelievers. Amazing.
So you also believe the Bible's story on creation? So, explain Dinosaurs.
BusinessIDBAI 2 years ago
And if I'm a BS troll, I guess I'd have to be to speak on the Bible, which is simply complete BS! Amazing isn't it?
The only way to speak about bullshit, is to speak the bullshit itself! And you actually think you're a good Christian rather than just a xenophobe. Evidence please.
BusinessIDBAI 2 years ago
@BusinessIDBAI
ahaa I hurt your feelings. You are throwing a temper tantrum. Do you know what xenophobe means? You are an idiot. On any given day I'm in command of a crew with people from many different backgrounds, races, sex, national and ethnic origins. Viva la difference.
You are a little sexist, racist, misogynistic, xenophobic, hater that attacks people do to race and region due to ignorance, bigotry, prejudice and hate. You've embarrassed yourself enough for one day boy HYPOCRITE!
gmcjetpilot 2 years ago
Xenophobe MEANS fear of the foreign, you didn't know that. You say in command, you don't say you like them.
Sexists? How'd you come to that conclusion, racists? How so? Misogynistic, wait, that's sexist... Xenophobic? I'm not the one saying Arabs are evil.
So, again, EXPLAIN Dinosaurs. I can't WAIT to hear it.
BusinessIDBAI 2 years ago
@BusinessIDBAI
You're right it means fear of foreigners. You do have Google. Where do you get I am Xenophobic? Born in the US I lived in Europe as a kid. My work takes me all over the World and LOVE different cultures and people. SO IT IS YOU THAT IS AN IGNORANT BS PREJUDICE STEREOTYPING ASS HOLE, but it's OK to hate Christians & White people? I expect an apology.
I'm not saying Arabs are evil! ISLAM and Arabs are TWO DIFFERENT THINGS IDIOT. Only 30% of muslims are Arab. Are u retarded?
gmcjetpilot 2 years ago
OR, you have OPENLY stated you hate Homosexuals, and Arabs! Amazing! You've stated ARABS in these comments, you've said they contributed NOTHING, and simply STOLE their ideas from the Greeks.
I'm White you jack ass, I obviously wouldn't hate my own race. You aren't getting an apology for something that is the TRUTH.
Now, EXPLAIN DINOSAURS little creationist. Let's hear how you can work that into your little creation myth.
BusinessIDBAI 2 years ago
@BusinessIDBAI
Show me where I said I HATE ANY ONE? You can't. Just because I criticise a GAY person & don't go for the secular gay agenda does not mean I HATE ANY ONE.
This is CLEARLY your OWN HATE BEING PROJECTED ON ME. You are a Gay right? That is why you hate GOD? Well I see that Sin does separate man from God. There is no need to go on. You are a HATER.
Dinosaurs? What THE F you are talking about? Dinosaurs? As a Kid I studied them extensively, had books and models. WHAT ABOUT IT?
gmcjetpilot 2 years ago
Scroll down, look for what you SAID about Arabs. You tried to discredit me by saying I support homosexuals! You IMPLY you hate them, your word usage PROVES you hate them, your demeanor is more EVIDENCE than any statement!
The Bible's account of creation doesn't leave room for Dinosaurs, that's what I'm talking about. It also states our Earth is held above "the deep" referring to water.
People like you are why I REJECT that God even exists, because YOU are PROOF a LOVING God couldn't.
BusinessIDBAI 2 years ago
@BusinessIDBAI
No you are conflating BULL SHIT with more BULL SHIT. Islam and gay are different topics. You brought up the gay saying I HATE GAYS. BULL!
I imply hate? Aren't you a mind reader. Ass hole! I HATE EVIL, TERROR, MURDER, RAPE and so on. If it happens that all terrorist are muslims and the quran has VERY specific violent verses that fuels terrorism, I WILL SPEAK OUT ASS HOLE!!!!! YOUR BULL SHIT defense is to call me names, homophone, xenophobe, racist, YOU LITTLE TWIT, FUCK YOU!
gmcjetpilot 2 years ago
LoL, gmcjetpilot, "You call me names, you're a twit, fuck you, you're gay, you're stupid, blah blah blah." Again you're a hypocrite. It's amazing you don't see it.
BusinessIDBAI 2 years ago
@BusinessIDBAI
Ahaa can't win so now you cry and whine, "you called me names, waaa". I just flipped it back at you. You attack people and their faith with LIES, expect to piss people off. Shit happens. IT'S YOUR TROLL GOAL ANYWAY. Congrats. YOU PISS ME OFF! so I opened a Can-O-Whoop ass, internet keyboard hero. All you cowards wouldn't say squat to my face. What you are 21, 24 yrs old? You know nothing. Write me in 25 yrs when you grow up & know something, if you are not dead from AIDS.
gmcjetpilot 2 years ago
Crying, I was laughing at your blatant further hypocrisy. So where is your peer-reviewed source? Have you NEVER, heard of Superstring theory, do you know what radioactive half-life is? Do you even know the process of radio-carbon dating? Do you understand evolution (obviously not as you use the term "accidental")?
You say you have degrees, but act in a manner that suggests otherwise, and you STILL source NOTHING.
If anyone is a troll, it's you, as trolls never cite.
BusinessIDBAI 2 years ago
@BusinessIDBAI "Have you ever heard" ha ha.
I graduated LSU '85 mechanical engineering; while at Boeing space & defense finished my post grad in Physics & Mathematics '91, UW. You=0
What about string theory? Yes I know it and radio dating, you don't. I'LL ASK AGAIN, what's the major assumption in radio-dating possibly making estimates useless?
Carbon dating can only est 50k yrs at best, not deep time, and it also has error producing assumptions & limits. Do you know why? Beat it troll.
gmcjetpilot 2 years ago
50k years at best? There are radioactive isotopes that have half-lives of 2-3 billion years. The errors come from the margins in which we can measure a half-life.
Not String theory, superstring theory, which holds the Big Bang concept, and where the big bang came from. The 11th dimension, particles and matter being able to exist in multiple spaces at the same time, etc.
You said we came from nothing to this accidentally, though super string AND evolution completely rule that out.
BusinessIDBAI 2 years ago
@BusinessIDBAI
No ASS HOLE carbon dating is based on C-14 (half life<6000 yrs). It relies on tenacious assumptions, the atmosphere and cosmic radiation has not changed, remained constant. THERE IS NO DEBATE. 50,000 yrs is the limit of Carbon dating.
Radio Dating uses radioactive isotopes (usually uranium) in materials dumb ass. HOW STUPID ARE YOU? You NEED to answer me about the assumptions, limits and errors of the method or shut up. I am PROVING you are stupid and enjoying it.
gmcjetpilot 2 years ago
You're proving I am stupid, yet you ADMIT you don't understand evolution and so you reject it off hand? You say we all got here randomly and by ACCIDENT, and you SHOW you don't understand history, culture, philosophy, science, RELIGION and by religion I mean MOSTLY your OWN!
Turn the other cheek buddy! Turn the OTHER cheek! Christian means you follow CHRIST'S teachings, yet you REJECT THEM out right!
BusinessIDBAI 2 years ago
And beyond that, you just PROVED your OWN stupidity in NOT knowing the form of dating used in fossil dating! It isn't carbon 14 dating, it's Radiometric dating, which has a half-life of 0.7 to 48.6 BILLION years. It uses an isotope series such as rubidium/strontium, thorium/lead, potassium/argon, argon/argon or uranium/lead.
So thanks for PROVING you're mentally retarded for someone who holds such advanced degrees. Enjoy your MYTHOLOGY.
BusinessIDBAI 2 years ago
@BusinessIDBAI
You're right I don't understand evolution. Every one I ask doesn't either. Its a hodgepodge of theories w/ holes & contradict each other. The "facts" don't impress me.
Tell me the grand unified theory of evolution w/ proof. My wife is a Doctor. We have two good friends, PhD's in medical research. We've NEVER SEEN one species begot another species. Clearly there's "evolution" or adaptation or natural selection with-in a species, but it never becomes a new kind, ever. Show me
gmcjetpilot 2 years ago
Gmc, what "holes" and "contradictions" does Evolution have? If you think that one species begets another species then you don't understand evolution at all!
Tell me, how would you know what a bird evolving into a duck would look like?
And furthermore, you say evolution, which you ADMIT you don't understand, has holes and is in contradiction with itself (somehow), but the Bible doesn't? Right...
BusinessIDBAI 2 years ago
And believe me gmcjetpilot, I'd say PLENTY to your face. It wouldn't bother me at all, and if it would make you angry enough to want to fight, it proves your LACK of ability to defend your INSANE beliefs.
The fact is, for your age, you seem to know NOTHING. Anyone with a masters in physics that doesn't AT LEAST know superstring theory is a joke. And you are a joke.
BusinessIDBAI 2 years ago
@BusinessIDBAI
"Defend you INSANE BELIEFS"
You don't believe in God? I guess all the billions of people who do know Jesus, will have to go on, despite you super genius. Phd's, even secular ones, at Universities all over the World, History, Philosophy and Theology praise the Bible as the greates morals, law and wisdom mankind has, are not as smart as you I guess. But why piss on other peoples JOY? What's wrong with you? You don't believe? Fine. NOW SHUT UP. No one cares.
gmcjetpilot 2 years ago
If you know of a way we can deradiate a material, please let the Nuclear power industry so they can rid us of the problem of radioactive waste.
BusinessIDBAI 2 years ago
@BusinessIDBAI
"Nuclear power industry.... blaa blaa"
WOW that is a Non Sequitur. A Red Herring. Please step away from the Bong or crack.
So you have no clue about radio dating or the major assumptions, errors and limitations? That is what I thought. You don't know history, philosophy, science, geopolitics, current events or religion. You are the complete package, a black hole of stupidity sucking out any intelligence in the universe.
gmcjetpilot 2 years ago
I answered your question, I suppose you just didn't want to read it. I don't know history? Really? Apparently you forgot about the Crusades predating Jihad, you forgot about Imperialism, you forgot about our tampering with governments in the middle east destabilizing and placing dictators in power, you forget about US selling the weapons to the mujaheddin and Saddam Hussein. To you, Terrorism is just because we don't believe in the right God. Tell me, why aren't they doing this in China?
BusinessIDBAI 2 years ago
@BusinessIDBAI
WRONG
Jihad started in 622AD when mohamad and his merry band of murders started attacking caravans between mecca and medina. In 638AD muslims invaded and conquered Jerusalem (founded by Jews in 1300BC), killed all Jewish/Christian leaders, destroyed Churches and for 460 yrs raped, looted and forced pilgrims to confer or crucified the. The 1095 Crusades where in responce. The Church renounced it and appolgized. It's not per the teachings of Jesus? Ever hear a muslim apologize?
gmcjetpilot 2 years ago
Really? They just went on Jihad for no reason? Oh wait, Jihad is a defensive concept and the Meccans were actively prosecuting the Muslims, killing them and keeping them OUT of their holy places. I don't know WHERE you get that they killed Jewish/Christian leaders, but whatever you want to believe!
And who cares if they haven't apologized? Islam is evil, Christianity is evil, as they BOTH promote bigotry and hate between faiths.
BusinessIDBAI 2 years ago
You forget about the Iranian protests going on RIGHT NOW against the the president and the Iatola. Apparently the ENTIRE populace supports terrorism, and the ENTIRE populace is made up of FANATICAL Islamist. I suppose the populace of Afghanistan is also ACHING to have the Taliban back, or that all the Iraqi's are dying to blow themselves up.
YOU don't understand current events, YOU don't understand religion, YOU don't understand culture. YOU want to enforce your beliefs on EVERYONE ELSE.
BusinessIDBAI 2 years ago
@BusinessIDBAI
Iranians are GREAT! They are Persian. Mohammedans, Arabs invaded and conquered them by constant violent imperialism. Islam, muslims are the people who start slave trade in Africa; Islam invaded and looted over 40 countries, Iran being one of them; Islam murdered 100 million Christians and around 10 million Hindus and 1 million buddhists. Their false prophet married a 9 year old girl which makes him a pedophile. Yes its fact and its history. I think you just got owned.
gmcjetpilot 2 years ago
Arabs didn't conquer Persia, the TURKS did, they were from the central Asian STEPS. Way to fuck up your history buddy. Christians were responsible for World War I, and WWII (Shintoism as well), and where do you get your figures for 100 MILLION Christians? Or is that just your own opinion.
Where in the BIBLE does it state that pedophilia is evil? Where! NO WHERE! That's where. And again, you're a dumb ass because of you NOT KNOWING how fossils are dated but THINKING you had a point.
BusinessIDBAI 2 years ago
And so by that SAME logic, billions of Muslims will have to go on, despite your super truth. Phd's, even secular ones, at Universities all over the World, praise the Qu'ran as the greatest of morals, law and wisdom mankind has, are not as smart as you I guess. But why piss on other people's JOY? What's wrong with you? You don't believe? Fine. NOW SHUT UP!
You have NO evidence that this is the case, yet you present it as fact, how presumptuous of you, and morally upstanding as well. Amazing.
BusinessIDBAI 2 years ago
@BusinessIDBAI
Again READ MY WORDS. I DON'T GIVE A DAMM WHAT YOU THINK. You are already DEAD. I am just pointing out people do beleive. If you don't fine....... SHUT UP. Is your GOAL to end religion? Do you think that will make God go away and your sick shit not an eternal death sentence? Do you think religion is the root of all problems? Are you like Dawkins who says his GOAL is to destroy religion. WOW, that sounds tolerant and real scientific. Atheism has NOTHING to do with science.
gmcjetpilot 2 years ago
Is it YOUR GOAL to end OTHER PEOPLE'S religion? If you don't give a DAMN what I think, stop replying! Because obviously you do!
You have not cited ANY sources for your claims in the scientific realm, you ONLY cite the Bible, and misquote the Qu'ran. You are FAR from TOLERANT as your FAITH commands you to be. What happened to turning the other cheek? What happened to FOLLOWING CHRIST? Why are YOU exempt from that aspect of YOUR religion.
BusinessIDBAI 2 years ago
@BusinessIDBAI
NOPE I will reply all I want punk. I'll get the last word, so FU! I did not quoted the BIBLE YOU DID, and you misquoted it.
Quran?
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Atheist or Muslim lecturing Christianity to me? ha ha. I am not perfect, and I LOVE THY ENEMY, FORGIVE THEM and PRAY FOR THEM. It doesn't mean ignore islamic terrorism dumb ass.
gmcjetpilot 2 years ago
So you LOVE THY ENEMY, and FORGIVE THEM, yet you want to KILL THEM ALL, and think their religion is EVIL. Amazing.
Explain WHY you confused carbon-14 with Radiometric, and THEN explain WHY you THOUGHT you had a point!
I knew you care what I say, that's why its important to you to get the last word, real mature for a 48 yr old. Arguing with someone half your age AND losing.
BusinessIDBAI 2 years ago
So you want to quote EXTREMISTS right? Not look at history? Okay, what about the Branch Dividian in Waco? What about Charlie Manson? What about Hitler? What about Charlemagne? The Teutonic Knights? The Knights Templar? Kang Yang Wook?
Neither religion is innocent, and Christians CERTAINLY have the higher body count.
BusinessIDBAI 2 years ago
@BusinessIDBAI
I know you are a raging homosexual and really angry at Jesus for saying no-no on the same sex F'ing. Sorry. The vagina is made for the penis, and the anus is a one way valve for defecation, so simple, even you understand that, despite your "urges" (gross). Why do you think HIV transfer rate by anal sex is 2000 times greater than vaginal sex? Add the fact gay men have many anonymous partners with no protection chances are equal to committing suicide. IT COSTS ALL OF SOCIETY.
gmcjetpilot 2 years ago
@BusinessIDBAI
Why do you keep bringing up string theory? Than you say I don't know it's a joke? In your opinion I assume. I NEVER MADE A COMMENT ABOUT IT. That is serious Straw Man BS you got going on.
String theory is a THEORY and explains gaps in current theories, not the least of which is gravity, currently thought to be a distortion in space-time continuum. My focus was heat transfer in composites and mechanics not theoretical physics, but do keep on on science journals. You? ha ha!
gmcjetpilot 2 years ago
@BusinessIDBAI
I owned you kid. I showed that you're a know nothing bull shit fool. You worship yourself and think the universe revolves around your anus. If you don't believe in God fine; live your Godless life. But shut up. Why piss on other peoples spiritual Joy? What's wrong with you, besides you are DEAD inside? See your hypocrisy. You defend islam and want people to worship your homogay urges, lie it's normal when it's not? If we don't you'll attack Jesus? LOL! That's INSANE & evil.
gmcjetpilot 2 years ago
You say I worship myself? Interesting, you say I piss on other people's spiritual joy? You do that with Islam, Pagan traditions, homosexuals, Atheists, etc! What's wrong with you, besides you think YOU have the truth.
Homogay, nice, very nice. Lie, it's normal when it's not?
Saying a fictitious magic man isn't real is evil and insane? I think believing you have actually TALKED to an imaginary invisible wizard is FAR more insane, and much more instep with the definition of the term psychotic.
BusinessIDBAI 2 years ago
@BusinessIDBAI
When Islam TERRORIZED the World, a thing called 9/11 and the +14,400 islamic terrorist attacks since, IT BECAME MY BUSINESS ASS HOLE. You threaten & attack my Nation, my family, religion, culture and me, in self defense I'll KILL YOU. Jesus didn't say be a lamb to the slaughter. I'll guard my family & our souls.
Homosexuality is your joy? I don't care if you butt fuck your self to death, it's you're deal and you're already dead. Don't force that crap on me or society.
gmcjetpilot 2 years ago
GMC, so when they started Jihads as a response to the crusades, the Christians deserved to be KILLED in self defense right?
When imperialist Christian powers invaded and conquered Muslim lands, raped, murdered and oppressed the people, they were JUSTIFIED in KILLING Christians in self defense right?
What part of me being MARRIED do you not understand? I have a wife, pregnant with my child. I've already stated this, is this your lame attempt at discrediting me? It only proves your xenophobia.
BusinessIDBAI 2 years ago
@BusinessIDBAI
We're back to xenophobia? ha ha. You love that word. I'm ANTI xenophobia. My new neighbors across the street are Indian. I walked over and knocked on their door just to say hello. At a restaurant, three sisters work, when they see me and my wife we give each other a big hug. We love them, nice people. They are Mexican. You don't know me ass hole.
YOU PROJECT YOUR HATE FOR CHRISTIANS. You are the Hater. You would be the FIRST to persecute and kill Christian if you could.
gmcjetpilot 2 years ago
But you ACCEPT them because they are WITHIN the society, you ARE Xenophobic AGAINST Islam. You ARE xenophobic AGAINST homosexuals. You ARE xenophobic AGAINST pagans. These are facts based off your OWN testimony!
You look at fanatics and then judge the ENTIRE religion, so we should judge Christianity to no less a standard, and the Christian fundamentalists are JUST AS BAD. You say the CHURCH apologized, but YOU cannot, for either your faith's or our countries' failings.
BusinessIDBAI 2 years ago
@BusinessIDBAI
Islam is not a RACE. They can enjoy their pagan rituals and culture all they want, but it's 7th century tribal territorial medieval barbaric laws, political precepts and backward misogynistic culture is hell bent on Jihad, marterdom and domination. Islam IS MORE than a religion, even muslims say this. It's a political and legal system that controls every aspect of society with draconian controls of fear and violence, DEMANDING muslims FIGHT TO MAKE ALL RELGION ONLY FOR ISLAM.
gmcjetpilot 2 years ago
No, Islam is a RELIGION, and XENOPHOBIA INCLUDES RELIGIONS!!!
Christianity is JUST as FILLED with Pagan traditions and has it's ENTIRE concept of Jesus Christ, duality, Armageddon AND Hell COMPLETELY stolen RIGHT from the Zoroastrian Religion.
Yet you are somehow unique and original? PLEASE!
BusinessIDBAI 2 years ago
@BusinessIDBAI
Islamic countries are the worst places on earth, poor, repressed, illiterate, violent, abuse human rights of woman/children and centers of terrorism. They get 100's of millions in aid, but they buy guns not play grounds for kids. They use kids for terrorism. GOOD FOR YOU? Yes I think Judeo-Christianity is better than Islam's false flawed ideology, and Our Democracy and FREEDOM is better than Totalitarian theocracies and NO freedom of religion or speech. It is a CULT. Sue me.
gmcjetpilot 2 years ago
Islamic countries are terrible after being defiled, thrown into chaos by European imperialism, yup.
And by constant tampering with middle eastern governments by Western powers, yup.
Judeo-Christianity is JUST as false as Islam, and fanatics like YOU are what make it JUST as BAD.
BusinessIDBAI 2 years ago
@BusinessIDBAI
Not all muslims are radical or terrorist. It doesn't matter. The ideology is EXTREME, hateful & intolerant. Look at Europe, they're Dhimmi in fear (look it up). You want that ideology, America to EMBRACE ISLAM? Be a muslim. I'm proud of my Religion, Culture & Nation-Americas accomplishments are great & good for the World. NOTHING wrong pointing out OBVIOUS Islamic lies, flaws and faults. IT IS OK TO CRITICIZE ISLAM YOU IDIOT. Your goto argument, is attack Jesus? That is telling.
gmcjetpilot 2 years ago
FINALLY you say not all Muslims are radical or terrorists! On the religion being hateful & intolerant, it's only that way when fundamentalists like YOURSELF getting to it. The EXACT SAME is true with Judaism (Zionists) and Christianity!
Congrats! You prove that NUT CASES like yourself destroy tol