I think an agressive cam and head package on a 5.0 will beat a stock ls1, but that same stock ls1 with 4.10s against a h/c stang would be a good match
you guys a sp happy a 5.7 beats a small 5.0 by a little hmm whats that 48 more cubes...dont be so proud bowties always needs a bigger motor to fuck with fords picking on the little guy
Being faster than the next whip is the idea Mustangs are handicapped in that there is no replacement for displacement. However I think mustangs are more fun to drive and look way better..
Both nice cars. I'm a mustang guy but not surprised at the outcome. The mustang just cant compete with those cubic inches. Stroke that 302 to a 347 and run a good h/c/i combo and it may be a different race.
ya that is right camaros made in the same time frame as a fox body are fucking jokes thats why you dont see a single soul wasteing their money on them. also remember this as long as there is a factory produced camaro there is a factory produced mustang thats faster(we can exclude gt500s cause they arnt on the same ball field as camaros). thats fact
Actually the Camaro and the FoxBody was a very close match when the cars are compared car to car year to year. I have to give the FoxBody in this video kudos for even hanging close. That car was never meant to be compared to that body style Camaro.
I was totaly looking into buying an ls camaro but than i discovered the TERMINATOR. i would have been funny if it was a tune port camaro with a cam cause you would have had to put a 2.3l in the mustang to make it fair!
@seanalikschrisdoyl You obviously don't know much seeing as even the Terminator only runs 12s and I've seen cam only LS1s run 12s. Stop being so butt hurt that you got beat by Camaros. Also the tune port Camaros were beating 5.0s at the time. The Chevy engine has always put out more power than the Mustangs. If you don't believe me look up the specs.
@wsimpson86 Right, take your dick in the booty ass to some current shit, and watch the camaro get its ass handed to it by some 2010 and up stangs....Not to mention putting an SS up against a Boss, a 5.0, or a GT500 is suicide for a new SS.....
@alteruser6910 Not for long. I don't even like the new Camaros, they are ugly and weigh too much. I could care less if a new Mustang is faster than a new Camaro. I'd take the new Mustang over the new Camaro.
@wsimpson86 fords motors make huge power per discplacement for instance the new 5.0 stang makes 400-440 hp depending on the model stang ..gms 5.7-6.2 L motors make 345 - 436 hp N/A so fords current gen motor makes for power per liter..and TPI cars..are you on crack the only camaros beating any 5.0 was head to head in 1985 thats the only test it beat a stang in strait line...unless it was a super rare G92 option camaro...IROC-Z/28s out handled the 5.0s like it was designed to do
@YellowCamaro85 infact hundais V8 makes more power than fords 5.0 so just as a refrence yes GM makes great motors..but srsly dont ride therecock ok..i own a camaro and i dont
@YellowCamaro85 The TPI cars were around 225 to 235 hp depending on 305 or 350. The 5.0 put out around 205 to 225 depending on the year. The TBI Chevy engines were not made for high performance and thats why they were only used in the RS.
@wsimpson86 i know but the notchback foxbodies and LXs weigh less than the Z28 and IROCS did Camaros didnt have a real fair chance in a strait line against the stang in the 80s at the time GM didnt offer a solid manual trans "only god knows why" and the Z28s and IROCZ focus was to be the best handling car it could be and it won many handling tests throughout the mid to late 80s my 85 made LB9 made 217hp est ona dyno in 1985 2 hp above the 215hp LB9 estimate..then in 86 they made less
@YellowCamaro85 On the 3rd gen TPI cars, setting base timing was suposed to be done as a dealer prep service. It was often overlooked and the base timing has been widly reported to be as little as 0 degreese advanced. That would make any car a pig. I have been in many LT1 cars. Auto and Manual (own a M6 LT1) and I got the chance to drive a stock 89 350 TPI car and it felt nearly as good as a LT1 until about 5000 rpm.
I owned a head and camed stang back in the day. I kicked alot of ass with it,it was a great car . I went to the ws.6 ta head cam and the rest of the goodies. The ls1 was so much more powerful. Then i went to a 95z very light in weight and a lsx block with turbos. Things got interesting then.
@bstal247 i had a 91 z28 it was a auto but it was the slowest thing on earth, mint condition car i think i hve some vids of it on my channel somewhere
@plane45036 that guys an idio for thinking camaros are slow... i think in the whole history of camaros and mustangs, the only years where the mustang was faster (power wise) than the camaro was 2003-2009. and thats because there was no camaro ^_^
@need2speed94 i give respect where its due, ford has built 3 great mustangs since the 60's and 70's the 03/04 cobra, the 5.4L gt500's, and obviously the new 5.0..up until 2011 it took them forced induction or nitrous to beat camaros, end of story
@plane45036 i could not agree with you more on those mustangs... those are the only 3 stangs id buy, along with a foxbody. except the 5.0 would have to hah. But yea the 03/04 cobra's cant be talked bad about, those are badass. Any of the stangs with the 5.4 4v are pretty quick, and the new coyotes perform exceptionally well compared to the 2011 camaro SS which has a much bigger motor compared to the coyote.
@blindskater200 Go look at the price tag...Oh and also look at chevys new camaros version of a rocket ship...about to be released, Fuck all the new cars, I could make a ls1 faster than a cobra jet for half the price
@plane45036 And then you can still make the Cobra Jet faster too. You can make anything faster than anything. But in terms of potential, the Cobra Jet has the LS1 beat. There's must more power to be made with a DOHC 4 valve per cylinder motor than an old pushrod style motor.
@blindskater200 Not if the old pushrod style motor is made by GM there some of the best performence engines there is the LSx series is fuckin legendary
i knew maro was gonna win that year stang had no power no if that maro was a 3rd gen same year as stang prolly would be the other way around not trying to throw dirt on third gend b/c i own one with 327
@extremeracing101 the 5.0s problem is out of the factory they cant breath, all they need is intake, exhaust, head, cam, just don't push the stock 5.0 block past 500 hp they don't like it much
both cars are badass...not a surprising result though. The LS1 is a monster motor and the HP is definitely rated low since most Vette's, Maro's and Trans Am's with the LS1 are putting down around 300hp at the wheels stock whereas the 5.0 is likely less than 200 at the wheels..the 5.0 will need more than heads/cams to hang with a cammed LS1.
@shoDOHC they dont.....just because it goes that high doesnt mean thats where its peak power band is at.....ever seen a dyno sheet sir? i have....and spinning at 7k they aint doin shit but running lean and producing no power.....look it up for yourself....
@UBeesh10 These new motors make power all the way up to 7k, it peaks around 6800. The torque plateaus around 4500 though. Shift points would be very close to 7k.
I never said they flow better then a stock head you moron loser. I know,i had them on my ls1 and my 427ci has them too retard. YOUR FORD SUCKS ASS. your boys 351ci ONLY put down 420hp. My stock bottom ls1 made 465hp on a mustang dyno and powered my n/a car to near 10's and close to 9's on a 150 shot. Sorry guys,not trying to bash ford. JUST THIS RETARD. The ford afr do not flow like the ls arf heads..not close.
That's not even a fair matchup the mustang driver must've been crazy for even doing it . A cammed ls1 vs a cammed 302 Cmon man . Pick on someone ur own size lol
The ls1 can produce power. I made near 470hp on a ls1 with a stang dyno and had a 10sec car n/a. My boys 351ci in his stang was killed by my 346ci ls1 every time. BOWTECHARROWBUSTER-The ford heads do not flow like a ls1 head and when you go aftermarket the ford can not match the flow and power. My boy had ford afr heads and the LS head flowed way better do to the design.
@bigguedo afr heads flow better then stock ls1 heads you fool. look at flow test. geez the ls1 makes more power cause its 346 ci and higher compression. and the intake manifold design is a tumble design. like the 99-01 cobras. but after market heads cam and intake will do wonders for a 351. my buddy's mustang put down 420 rwhp on his 351. which righ around the same hp as my friends H/C/I ls1.
okay all ya'll guys that think your ss is the shit because it whipps a mustang ass yall need to calim the hell down. i mean come on a 350ci vs a 302ci. seriously now i could handle all the braggin from the camaro guy if the mustang in that race was a 351ci run a 305 camaro agenst a 302 mustang see what happens
@pntba11er16 Nope. The new STOCK 5.0 Rapes every STOCK camaro ever made...
2002 Camaro Zl1 Phase III , Stock straight from Gm's production line, Think Again My Friend
P.S. apparently you haven't heard about the new 2012 Camaros? ZL1 550 horse, eats 2011 5.0's for breakfast, lunch, snacktime, and dinner! Nice Try Though
*the ford 302 is a legend for actually being able to keep up with something that has alot of cubes up on it so props!...sorry using my pjone for this1 lol
Mrmustangfan87.. Ur an idiot.. Ur on here talking about engine size and comparing when u need to go out and do some research.. Please go look up the engine size of Ferraris or Porsche.. What are u gonna say.. "v8 vs v10 or v12?" please respond lol. Dumbass
Really..you guys are going to make me use a Fast and Furious line..
Dom: Ask any racer, any real racer. It doesn't matter if you win by an inch or a mile; winning's winning.
Now get over your 302 vs 350 BS and realize these 2 guys wanted to race each other and I am sure by the looks of it each knew what each had and nobody races unless they believe they CAN win.. Geez you people..
@Hellz420 XACTLY whut I'M saying dude a pos CHEVY VS my shitbox RANGER and put your title up not the camaros or mine.... that way all that laughing ya doing will be like the ole saying LAUGH NOW CRY LATER hehehe...... serious here....lets go....
@bigmac9396 So ur saying a 4c or V6 will outrun a bugatti Veyron or Saleen S7......The size of your motor is a key factor in racing dumbass.....Your not going to take a fucking LS1 Camaro to Le Mans and race against Porsches and Ferraris
just a pulley change your not that smart the zr1 has more then the pulley. ford has the new 5.0 in 9s with some bolt ons and juice now that is sumthin evo performance has the gt500 stock motor bolt ons in the 9s the have the 5.0 convertible in the 11 stock the zr1 runs 10.90 come has a kb on 5.0 and chevy is in the dumps again
the cobra is still a281c.i motor five seater car and the super snake with radials they have doing 10.25 stock a zr-1 ive only seen stock run 12 maybe a11 sec 1/4 and they have the new 5.0 low 11s high 10. the zr1 is fast but its a different class of car its not an everyday car so who gives a fuck
dude there is a video off it lol! the cobra and gt 500 and there is a video of the Porsche gt3 beat like come on of course an ls1 can beat a new 5.0 heavily modified
LOL at all the LS1 hate. If the LS1 is so crappy why do people put them in everything from RX-7's to Miatas? You don't hear of anyone swapping 302's in them...
The 302 must have wayyyy too much power for people to want to swap those in apparently...er, wait a minute...
Im certainly not bashing either make Ford or Chevy, Ive had my 86 camaro for almost 15 years I love it, it was my first car, i built up that little 305 alittle and its one fast fun car to rip through the gears. But i also know there are a bunch of nice stangs out there and respect them a well. I do think its pretty amazing what GM can do with out dated motor technology while everyone else is doing the 4 cam motors. I just think its its cool what theyre still doing with pushrods and rocker arms
Sean589- Are you retarted, what about the 350? dateing back to the 60s. And unlike that shitty 302 the 350 block can actually handel over 450hp without throwing a rod through the block and is and still be on of the most commonly used engines in anything because of parts availablility and the ability to make plenty of hp
@boostedfoxbody90 What about the 350? For one they love to kiss valves. Two they commonly roll cams flat due to their crappy oiling system causing backfire through the carb. Yet you call the non-backfiring prone 302 shitty because it develops and can handle a little less power due to the fact it is down 48 cu.in. I have two answers with similar displacement for your 350. 351W and 351C.
It takes a Chevy fan to brag about the LS1 beating the 5.0, a car whose rival was the IROC. A car with a 302W powerplant dating back to the 1960s, and a chassis dating back to 1979. Sad that it took clear up until the late 90s for Chevy to finally come up with an answer to Ford's 302. Yet you all brag about it. Ford has always been ahead of the curve and Chevy has always been playing catch up. Both in technological advancement and on the track.
@Shaun589 ay dumb bitch.. get ur facts straight.. the ls1 thats not even from this century still beats all those new gt ford is coming out with. i think barely the new 2011 gt keeps up with the 1997 ls1 so fuk off.. n u cant even compare it to the the ls2 or ls3 .. n ur bitch ass is gonna say whell the shelby this or the new 5.0 that.. all im gonna say is LS9 MUDAFUKER! HAHAHA
@0junior6 The LS1 Camaro is on par with the 32V non-supercharged Cobra/Mach 1 of the same era. People overrate the LS1. Any magazine from the time will show similar performance and so will videos here on youtube. However, in my comment I was referring to Chevy always matching their 350 to Ford's 302 since the 60s. It's not my fault Ford has had to use smaller engines to keep from embarrassing Chevy. It wasn't until the LS1 that the 350 finally blew the 302 out of the water. It was about time.
@0junior6 dude your a fucking idiot your ls1 is def not beating a new 5.0 and you ls9 zr-1 got beat buy an 03 cobra so you fuck of and guess what chevy motosr are still bigger lol! dumb chevy guy and a 2011 gt will beat your ls1 how many motor has chevy made to keep up with fodr like really.
@SHTINONCHEVY Bullshit on the 03 cobra beating a ZR-1, no way unless it was a heavily modified Cobra, there is plenty of evidence of LS1 4th gen camaros beating the new 5.0's, please state your sources on your claims and please dont say "fast fords Magazine" or any other biased magazine that gets paid by a company to make claims that aren't true
wow. stupid comments. who gives a shit about what company is better. its about what u prefer. ford or gm. some fords beat Chevy. some Chevys beat fords. lets act our age a lil. nice camaro btw
That's a weak HCI setup on that fox then, prbly a cheap GT40 setup, because a good HCI fox with gears would beat a cammed LS1, and the 5.0 got pulled..
@slickdaddy2010 the 2010 v6 camaro isn't faster than the 2010 mustang gt...honestly don't know where you pulled that out from. Also, take chevy's super car, the z06, and put it against the ford supercar, the Ford GT, and then eat your words. Your user name is beyond gay btw.
@oriclepro09 i cant dummy it up enuff for you can i ?you better start doing some research on your fords,cuz u obviously dont know shit about em,except their a ford mustang!ya,real smart.theres some real fuckin brainiacs on here thats for sure,and what the fuck is up with men always talking about being gay,cocks and dicks on here?hmmm let me see,o ya,they MUST be a bunch of closet queers,anyway smart guy do some research and then il let you entertain me some more
@slickdaddy2010 Clearly from your grammar and spelling skills, providing a rebuttal would be a waste of time. Are you mentally retarded? If so, let me know that way I can feel bad for having called out how dumb you are. I literally had to re-read your post 5 times because I had no idea what you were attempting to say. Go watch Fast and the Furious again and watch more youtube vids. I've forgotten more about cars than you'll ever know. God help you if you truely are 38 years old.
@oriclepro09 only you can help yourself from being a total bafoon,and trying to sound sophisticated just isnt your thing.have you ever heard of reading comphrehension?well research that too jackass before you come back with some more unintelligent stoopid shit,maybe your mom can help you come up with some good comebacks,ur just too dumb for me,next!
@slickdaddy2010 Ohhh, so proper english and correct spelling is "trying to sound sophisticated"...Wel yo mae bee if I tawk lik dis, yull b abell to understand wat im trin 2 say. Go back to school retard.
@oriclepro09 i waited up last night for 2 hours waiting for a reply from you,and thats the best you could come up with?you surfed the internet for a comeback for 2 hours and thats the best you got?go shoot yourself,your not intelligent enough for me to argue with
@slickdaddy2010 Hahah, you waited up for me? Wow, you just keep proving my "you're a retard" statement. Now, you're stealing my "you're not intelligent" argument, real original. Go watch more pro-camaro vids chevy fanboy.
@oriclepro09 well bitch,of course i didnt wait up for you,if i thought you could make me laugh with your weak shit i would of..but anyhow,i dont think i need to watch a video to get educated on automobiles!i READ the facts!do you know how read?im sure you do,but you cant comprehend,you have to have an iq for that,anyhow,im not going to waste anymore time on you than i already have because you cant come up with any good shit or funny shit to say...
Lol aluminum ls1 block is more upgradable in my opinion and is lighter I like both cars but camaro is my favorite sry mustang lovers camaros stock are straight up better but mustang sound beastly as well I love both these cars
That camaro wont bust my mustangs azz, I busted a built out the ass lt1, and i sucked the headlights out of a z06 vette that was built really good by about 4 car legnths in a 1/8 mile, and by about 6 car lengths in the quarter. LOL
@lightningvolt127 FORD MADE A COMPLAINT TO CHEVY/GM SAYING YOU GOTTA STOP WHOOPIN OUR ASS MAN! "WERE GLAD YOU DIDNT SUPERCHARGE THEM LS MAROS OUT THE FACTORY CUZ OUR TERMINATORS WOULDA BEEN LOOKN LIKE LIL GIRLS" does that answer your ? =)
@ez2memorize - I asked the same question... Its amazing the new 5.0 is the same size as a 460 big block motor, but it weighs 30 pounds less than the original pushrod 5.0 motor because of its aluminum block. I could imagine the weight savings the fox body would of saved with an aluminum block and heads, it would of easily taken the LX coupe down to 2800lbs.
I think an agressive cam and head package on a 5.0 will beat a stock ls1, but that same stock ls1 with 4.10s against a h/c stang would be a good match
sradman750 3 days ago
@blitz ive beaten 03 cobras, with only headers and intake,just bow down and admit that a snake will not fuck with a maro.
sradman750 3 days ago
you guys a sp happy a 5.7 beats a small 5.0 by a little hmm whats that 48 more cubes...dont be so proud bowties always needs a bigger motor to fuck with fords picking on the little guy
Mr1972mopar318 5 days ago
i want to see that LS1 race a Cobra. will see who get there ass kicked
blitz50ful 6 days ago
that maro torn that 5.slow to shreads
RoTajdmmk3 1 week ago
MAN FUCK THAT GAS IS 4 DOLLARS AINT NO WAY IM DRIVING A V8 OF ANYSORT ILL STICK WITH MY V6 3.6 MUSTANG FOR NOW!
watchingvideos1410 2 weeks ago
@watchingvideos1410 whats the difference? 2 pistons .woww. much gass your saving their. might as well sell it and get a honda and be proud of that
kickfreak23 4 days ago
Although the new 5.0 will beat an older model ls1,but year for year since the ls model came out fords winners circle is slowly getting smaller
sradman750 2 weeks ago
Blame ford for putting a 5.0 in a car and thinking it will fuck with a maros 5.7...
sradman750 2 weeks ago
@sradman750 i mean heads and cam on a 5.0 is a good challenge against a 5.7. think about it
kickfreak23 4 days ago
Being faster than the next whip is the idea Mustangs are handicapped in that there is no replacement for displacement. However I think mustangs are more fun to drive and look way better..
AkaLeeBeats 1 month ago
Both nice cars. I'm a mustang guy but not surprised at the outcome. The mustang just cant compete with those cubic inches. Stroke that 302 to a 347 and run a good h/c/i combo and it may be a different race.
92notchback302 1 month ago
Foxbody's look great but man the 5.0 is its downfall.
need2speed94 1 month ago
cant wait to c how the zl1 will hold up against the shelby
The02sscamaro 2 months ago
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ralatorre9 2 months ago
Who ever built that Mustang knew what they were doing.
wsimpson86 2 months ago
cant wait to do this with my new z28
TheZ28forlife 2 months ago
Dam at all the niggers lol hide the keys
ericblazier19 2 months ago
@ericblazier19 Mouth ass boi.....ur ugly as fuck for that
alteruser6910 2 months ago
ya that is right camaros made in the same time frame as a fox body are fucking jokes thats why you dont see a single soul wasteing their money on them. also remember this as long as there is a factory produced camaro there is a factory produced mustang thats faster(we can exclude gt500s cause they arnt on the same ball field as camaros). thats fact
seanalikschrisdoyl 2 months ago
@seanalikschrisdoyl Camaros where always faster than there Mustang competition
SpeedDemons420 2 months ago 2
@SpeedDemons420
Actually the Camaro and the FoxBody was a very close match when the cars are compared car to car year to year. I have to give the FoxBody in this video kudos for even hanging close. That car was never meant to be compared to that body style Camaro.
myslick10 2 months ago
buttstangs cant handle the camaro
larrydg24 3 months ago
I was totaly looking into buying an ls camaro but than i discovered the TERMINATOR. i would have been funny if it was a tune port camaro with a cam cause you would have had to put a 2.3l in the mustang to make it fair!
seanalikschrisdoyl 3 months ago
@seanalikschrisdoyl Is that right?That is laughable.
derrdon 3 months ago
@seanalikschrisdoyl You obviously don't know much seeing as even the Terminator only runs 12s and I've seen cam only LS1s run 12s. Stop being so butt hurt that you got beat by Camaros. Also the tune port Camaros were beating 5.0s at the time. The Chevy engine has always put out more power than the Mustangs. If you don't believe me look up the specs.
wsimpson86 2 months ago
@wsimpson86 Right, take your dick in the booty ass to some current shit, and watch the camaro get its ass handed to it by some 2010 and up stangs....Not to mention putting an SS up against a Boss, a 5.0, or a GT500 is suicide for a new SS.....
alteruser6910 2 months ago
@alteruser6910 Not for long. I don't even like the new Camaros, they are ugly and weigh too much. I could care less if a new Mustang is faster than a new Camaro. I'd take the new Mustang over the new Camaro.
wsimpson86 2 months ago
@alteruser6910 I read that the Camaro is .2 seconds faster in the 1/4 mile than the 5.0 Mustang.
wsimpson86 2 months ago
@wsimpson86 fords motors make huge power per discplacement for instance the new 5.0 stang makes 400-440 hp depending on the model stang ..gms 5.7-6.2 L motors make 345 - 436 hp N/A so fords current gen motor makes for power per liter..and TPI cars..are you on crack the only camaros beating any 5.0 was head to head in 1985 thats the only test it beat a stang in strait line...unless it was a super rare G92 option camaro...IROC-Z/28s out handled the 5.0s like it was designed to do
YellowCamaro85 2 months ago
@YellowCamaro85 infact hundais V8 makes more power than fords 5.0 so just as a refrence yes GM makes great motors..but srsly dont ride therecock ok..i own a camaro and i dont
YellowCamaro85 2 months ago
@YellowCamaro85 The TPI cars were around 225 to 235 hp depending on 305 or 350. The 5.0 put out around 205 to 225 depending on the year. The TBI Chevy engines were not made for high performance and thats why they were only used in the RS.
wsimpson86 2 months ago
@wsimpson86 i know but the notchback foxbodies and LXs weigh less than the Z28 and IROCS did Camaros didnt have a real fair chance in a strait line against the stang in the 80s at the time GM didnt offer a solid manual trans "only god knows why" and the Z28s and IROCZ focus was to be the best handling car it could be and it won many handling tests throughout the mid to late 80s my 85 made LB9 made 217hp est ona dyno in 1985 2 hp above the 215hp LB9 estimate..then in 86 they made less
YellowCamaro85 1 month ago
@YellowCamaro85 On the 3rd gen TPI cars, setting base timing was suposed to be done as a dealer prep service. It was often overlooked and the base timing has been widly reported to be as little as 0 degreese advanced. That would make any car a pig. I have been in many LT1 cars. Auto and Manual (own a M6 LT1) and I got the chance to drive a stock 89 350 TPI car and it felt nearly as good as a LT1 until about 5000 rpm.
ztwntyn8 1 month ago
Camaro smoked em
toddandkaitlin012911 3 months ago 2
everyone standing around recording with their phones drives hondas :p
best17driver 3 months ago 2
Awe shit here we go again, the point needed a better driver that's all
GMAN420925 4 months ago
Y did the five point sloww even think he had a chance ?
383EROCK 4 months ago
I owned a head and camed stang back in the day. I kicked alot of ass with it,it was a great car . I went to the ws.6 ta head cam and the rest of the goodies. The ls1 was so much more powerful. Then i went to a 95z very light in weight and a lsx block with turbos. Things got interesting then.
bigguedo 5 months ago
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HwyPony 5 months ago
@DoctorNambu fuck you u fucking ford loving lame you must be a red neck
danksmoker1100 5 months ago
camero all day fuck ford
danksmoker1100 5 months ago
@danksmoker1100 You can't even spell camaro so I would just not comment because you obviously drive a prius...fucking dick eater.
DoctorNambu 5 months ago
@bstal247 i had a 91 z28 it was a auto but it was the slowest thing on earth, mint condition car i think i hve some vids of it on my channel somewhere
plane45036 5 months ago
c'mon its a camaro what else did u expect,,, the mustang to win???!!!!
elbarbque 5 months ago
5.0s had their time. LS1's are always gonna be great motors. Maybe a more fair race would been a stock LT1 vs H/C/I 5.0 :)
need2speed94 5 months ago
i usually dont drive v8s........but when i do, i prefer an ls1 stay thirsty my friends.
legendarylt1 6 months ago 2
5.sl0w
ryanhooton10 6 months ago
A bottom end doesn't make power -_____-
and the only power increase a bottom end will make is if you add cubes
OneSlowLT1 6 months ago
camaros are slow.....
severedjaxricky 6 months ago
@severedjaxricky how do you fucking figure dumb ass
plane45036 6 months ago
@plane45036 that guys an idio for thinking camaros are slow... i think in the whole history of camaros and mustangs, the only years where the mustang was faster (power wise) than the camaro was 2003-2009. and thats because there was no camaro ^_^
need2speed94 5 months ago
@need2speed94 i give respect where its due, ford has built 3 great mustangs since the 60's and 70's the 03/04 cobra, the 5.4L gt500's, and obviously the new 5.0..up until 2011 it took them forced induction or nitrous to beat camaros, end of story
plane45036 5 months ago
@plane45036 i could not agree with you more on those mustangs... those are the only 3 stangs id buy, along with a foxbody. except the 5.0 would have to hah. But yea the 03/04 cobra's cant be talked bad about, those are badass. Any of the stangs with the 5.4 4v are pretty quick, and the new coyotes perform exceptionally well compared to the 2011 camaro SS which has a much bigger motor compared to the coyote.
need2speed94 5 months ago
@plane45036 Don't forget the Cobra Jet with the 5.4. Mother fucking rocket ship
watch?v=K76SBK3Ewgw
blindskater200 4 months ago
@blindskater200 Go look at the price tag...Oh and also look at chevys new camaros version of a rocket ship...about to be released, Fuck all the new cars, I could make a ls1 faster than a cobra jet for half the price
plane45036 4 months ago
@plane45036 u could make a 5.0 mustang faster than a cobra jet for half the price if u really wanted to
cMiiKEc 4 months ago
@cMiiKEc a old 5.0 or new 302?...Because new 5.0s are EXPENSIVE to mod, older ones yes you could.
plane45036 4 months ago
@plane45036 And then you can still make the Cobra Jet faster too. You can make anything faster than anything. But in terms of potential, the Cobra Jet has the LS1 beat. There's must more power to be made with a DOHC 4 valve per cylinder motor than an old pushrod style motor.
blindskater200 4 months ago
@blindskater200 Not if the old pushrod style motor is made by GM there some of the best performence engines there is the LSx series is fuckin legendary
SpeedDemons420 2 months ago
both nice lookin cars! love the camaro but i have a fox and i gotta say that fox looks sick. great run! respect to both
86turbostang 6 months ago
i knew maro was gonna win that year stang had no power no if that maro was a 3rd gen same year as stang prolly would be the other way around not trying to throw dirt on third gend b/c i own one with 327
gordysuggs 7 months ago
good heads and cam on a 5.0 will murder any cammed only ls1... u just need to match the heads and cam.
yea stock 5.0s only have 225hp but they have 300ft lbs of torque, ill take torque over horsepower anyday.
extremeracing101 7 months ago 2
@extremeracing101 that mustang had no chance even if the ls1 was stock u forget that ls1s two generations ahead of that 5.0
91battlered 6 months ago
@extremeracing101 the 5.0s problem is out of the factory they cant breath, all they need is intake, exhaust, head, cam, just don't push the stock 5.0 block past 500 hp they don't like it much
dmayfield2 6 months ago
@dmayfield2 YEAH MAN JUST CHANGE THE WHOLE MOTOR THATS ALL IT NEEDS!!!
OneSlowLT1 6 months ago
@OneSlowLT1 that's not the whole motor the block, rods, pistons, crankshaft, ect would be the same
dmayfield2 6 months ago
@extremeracing101 do you know how much torque the ls1 has stock?335.
xcrunnersrock 6 months ago
Chevy's the best
chevy427ss60 7 months ago
both cars are badass...not a surprising result though. The LS1 is a monster motor and the HP is definitely rated low since most Vette's, Maro's and Trans Am's with the LS1 are putting down around 300hp at the wheels stock whereas the 5.0 is likely less than 200 at the wheels..the 5.0 will need more than heads/cams to hang with a cammed LS1.
kamilc83 7 months ago 2
Diamond dude is a damn tard
alanhochard 8 months ago
that was a mystic race....fog and shit.....mustangs have no top end....fail
UBeesh10 8 months ago
@UBeesh10 jeez you must be right....2011 5.0 no top end...not like a 7k + top end or anything
shoDOHC 8 months ago
@shoDOHC they dont.....just because it goes that high doesnt mean thats where its peak power band is at.....ever seen a dyno sheet sir? i have....and spinning at 7k they aint doin shit but running lean and producing no power.....look it up for yourself....
UBeesh10 8 months ago
@UBeesh10 These new motors make power all the way up to 7k, it peaks around 6800. The torque plateaus around 4500 though. Shift points would be very close to 7k.
ScreaminLT1 7 months ago
@UBeesh10 mustangs have no top end 160mph easy to get to in stock 5spd GT
MrSilent937 6 months ago
sound like the 5.0 let off then in.for not spinning both cars sound good throw.
MrHeadshot1982 8 months ago
What city was this?
MicahLeviClark 8 months ago
I never said they flow better then a stock head you moron loser. I know,i had them on my ls1 and my 427ci has them too retard. YOUR FORD SUCKS ASS. your boys 351ci ONLY put down 420hp. My stock bottom ls1 made 465hp on a mustang dyno and powered my n/a car to near 10's and close to 9's on a 150 shot. Sorry guys,not trying to bash ford. JUST THIS RETARD. The ford afr do not flow like the ls arf heads..not close.
bigguedo 8 months ago
another win for chevy..
f34rthe4banger 8 months ago
chevy> ford. ls1 the greatest
hooknbookls1 8 months ago
Mustang traction problems?.....NAAAAAa... LOL
Trans22Am 9 months ago
I bet u won't try that with my little 281 rustang ....
shosaleen 9 months ago
That's not even a fair matchup the mustang driver must've been crazy for even doing it . A cammed ls1 vs a cammed 302 Cmon man . Pick on someone ur own size lol
shosaleen 9 months ago
The ls1 can produce power. I made near 470hp on a ls1 with a stang dyno and had a 10sec car n/a. My boys 351ci in his stang was killed by my 346ci ls1 every time. BOWTECHARROWBUSTER-The ford heads do not flow like a ls1 head and when you go aftermarket the ford can not match the flow and power. My boy had ford afr heads and the LS head flowed way better do to the design.
bigguedo 9 months ago
@bigguedo afr heads flow better then stock ls1 heads you fool. look at flow test. geez the ls1 makes more power cause its 346 ci and higher compression. and the intake manifold design is a tumble design. like the 99-01 cobras. but after market heads cam and intake will do wonders for a 351. my buddy's mustang put down 420 rwhp on his 351. which righ around the same hp as my friends H/C/I ls1.
santiagomel00 8 months ago
those LS motors Might be small but they put out SOOOOOOO much power!
ar15freak 9 months ago
okay all ya'll guys that think your ss is the shit because it whipps a mustang ass yall need to calim the hell down. i mean come on a 350ci vs a 302ci. seriously now i could handle all the braggin from the camaro guy if the mustang in that race was a 351ci run a 305 camaro agenst a 302 mustang see what happens
bowtecharrowbuster 9 months ago
Hey diamondback the new zl1 is supercharged dumbass the gt350 will crush the zl1 anyday
Itsyouandme34 9 months ago
@Itsyouandme34 doubtful
mellenjuice 9 months ago
@Itsyouandme34 Cursing on the internet about cars shows a lot of class.
jackthePS3GAMER 9 months ago
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diamondback88 9 months ago
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@pntba11er16 Nope. The new STOCK 5.0 Rapes every STOCK camaro ever made...
2002 Camaro Zl1 Phase III , Stock straight from Gm's production line, Think Again My Friend
P.S. apparently you haven't heard about the new 2012 Camaros? ZL1 550 horse, eats 2011 5.0's for breakfast, lunch, snacktime, and dinner! Nice Try Though
diamondback88 9 months ago
@diamondback88 I take it your talking to BL80488, it showed up in my inbox
pntba11er16 9 months ago
*the ford 302 is a legend for actually being able to keep up with something that has alot of cubes up on it so props!...sorry using my pjone for this1 lol
SuperCncguy 9 months ago
Chevy blood here, a
SuperCncguy 9 months ago
Mrmustangfan87.. Ur an idiot.. Ur on here talking about engine size and comparing when u need to go out and do some research.. Please go look up the engine size of Ferraris or Porsche.. What are u gonna say.. "v8 vs v10 or v12?" please respond lol. Dumbass
DaMongoose00 10 months ago
Really..you guys are going to make me use a Fast and Furious line..
Dom: Ask any racer, any real racer. It doesn't matter if you win by an inch or a mile; winning's winning.
Now get over your 302 vs 350 BS and realize these 2 guys wanted to race each other and I am sure by the looks of it each knew what each had and nobody races unless they believe they CAN win.. Geez you people..
SimplisticBeing 10 months ago
lol as i expected!
UBeesh10 10 months ago
I got a RANGER with a 302 stroker I would like to race against that pos chevy....
malicedjoker 10 months ago
@malicedjoker hahahah... a chevy a pos compared to a shitbox ranger? that's a good one!
Hellz420 10 months ago
@Hellz420 XACTLY whut I'M saying dude a pos CHEVY VS my shitbox RANGER and put your title up not the camaros or mine.... that way all that laughing ya doing will be like the ole saying LAUGH NOW CRY LATER hehehe...... serious here....lets go....
malicedjoker 10 months ago
@malicedjoker haha come on guy
bestlude 10 months ago
the camaro already has aluminum heads from factory. btw isnt the block aluminum?
thanks for the post.
erjanbalkan 11 months ago
Not a good race....350 vs a 302.......honestly which do u think is going to win
MrMustangFan87 11 months ago
@MrMustangFan87 hey you fucking dumbass it doesnt matter about size. i know a lot of small blocks that can run with or beat big blocks.
bigmac9396 10 months ago
@bigmac9396 So ur saying a 4c or V6 will outrun a bugatti Veyron or Saleen S7......The size of your motor is a key factor in racing dumbass.....Your not going to take a fucking LS1 Camaro to Le Mans and race against Porsches and Ferraris
MrMustangFan87 10 months ago
I wanna get in on this and defend Ford with my fox
t1msguitar 11 months ago
just a pulley change your not that smart the zr1 has more then the pulley. ford has the new 5.0 in 9s with some bolt ons and juice now that is sumthin evo performance has the gt500 stock motor bolt ons in the 9s the have the 5.0 convertible in the 11 stock the zr1 runs 10.90 come has a kb on 5.0 and chevy is in the dumps again
SHTINONCHEVY 11 months ago
GM baby! Get some!
tacomanfan344 11 months ago
bowtie
imserious2187 11 months ago
where is the video of the race between this mustang vs the turbo civic ?
I want to see how deperate the civic driver was once the mustang outlaunched the civic and beat him easily with ultra slow shifts again
3O2MuStAnG 11 months ago
both sound great
adamp2 1 year ago
ls1>5.0
80TRIUMPH08 1 year ago
bay area
deathrow209 1 year ago
Two really cool cars is this in oakland cause its hella foggy
OakyDoky24 1 year ago
........LS 1 = SLEEEEPEEEER !
357FACEOFF 1 year ago
the cobra is still a281c.i motor five seater car and the super snake with radials they have doing 10.25 stock a zr-1 ive only seen stock run 12 maybe a11 sec 1/4 and they have the new 5.0 low 11s high 10. the zr1 is fast but its a different class of car its not an everyday car so who gives a fuck
SHTINONCHEVY 1 year ago
@SHTINONCHEVY zr1's with slicks and a pulley change run 9's retard.
savagexhaley14 11 months ago
dude there is a video off it lol! the cobra and gt 500 and there is a video of the Porsche gt3 beat like come on of course an ls1 can beat a new 5.0 heavily modified
SHTINONCHEVY 1 year ago
Yeah well to everyone else the Cadillac ctsv coupe with the supercharged lsa v8 beat the new cobra.
matttwig8892 1 year ago
5.0 is fuckin siclk love that fox !!!
SICK03COBRA 1 year ago
LOL at all the LS1 hate. If the LS1 is so crappy why do people put them in everything from RX-7's to Miatas? You don't hear of anyone swapping 302's in them...
The 302 must have wayyyy too much power for people to want to swap those in apparently...er, wait a minute...
3800power 1 year ago
Im certainly not bashing either make Ford or Chevy, Ive had my 86 camaro for almost 15 years I love it, it was my first car, i built up that little 305 alittle and its one fast fun car to rip through the gears. But i also know there are a bunch of nice stangs out there and respect them a well. I do think its pretty amazing what GM can do with out dated motor technology while everyone else is doing the 4 cam motors. I just think its its cool what theyre still doing with pushrods and rocker arms
chevy86cam 1 year ago
@Shaun589 Thats what I always thought about Ford
steelcityracer1320 1 year ago
damn, I didn't know you could post rape on here.
rob69zombie 1 year ago
Sean589- Are you retarted, what about the 350? dateing back to the 60s. And unlike that shitty 302 the 350 block can actually handel over 450hp without throwing a rod through the block and is and still be on of the most commonly used engines in anything because of parts availablility and the ability to make plenty of hp
boostedfoxbody90 1 year ago
@boostedfoxbody90 What about the 350? For one they love to kiss valves. Two they commonly roll cams flat due to their crappy oiling system causing backfire through the carb. Yet you call the non-backfiring prone 302 shitty because it develops and can handle a little less power due to the fact it is down 48 cu.in. I have two answers with similar displacement for your 350. 351W and 351C.
Shaun589 1 year ago
@Shaun589 thank you some dude who knows what he is talking about .
SHTINONCHEVY 1 year ago
It takes a Chevy fan to brag about the LS1 beating the 5.0, a car whose rival was the IROC. A car with a 302W powerplant dating back to the 1960s, and a chassis dating back to 1979. Sad that it took clear up until the late 90s for Chevy to finally come up with an answer to Ford's 302. Yet you all brag about it. Ford has always been ahead of the curve and Chevy has always been playing catch up. Both in technological advancement and on the track.
Shaun589 1 year ago
@Shaun589 ay dumb bitch.. get ur facts straight.. the ls1 thats not even from this century still beats all those new gt ford is coming out with. i think barely the new 2011 gt keeps up with the 1997 ls1 so fuk off.. n u cant even compare it to the the ls2 or ls3 .. n ur bitch ass is gonna say whell the shelby this or the new 5.0 that.. all im gonna say is LS9 MUDAFUKER! HAHAHA
0junior6 1 year ago
@0junior6 The LS1 Camaro is on par with the 32V non-supercharged Cobra/Mach 1 of the same era. People overrate the LS1. Any magazine from the time will show similar performance and so will videos here on youtube. However, in my comment I was referring to Chevy always matching their 350 to Ford's 302 since the 60s. It's not my fault Ford has had to use smaller engines to keep from embarrassing Chevy. It wasn't until the LS1 that the 350 finally blew the 302 out of the water. It was about time.
Shaun589 1 year ago
@0junior6 dude your a fucking idiot your ls1 is def not beating a new 5.0 and you ls9 zr-1 got beat buy an 03 cobra so you fuck of and guess what chevy motosr are still bigger lol! dumb chevy guy and a 2011 gt will beat your ls1 how many motor has chevy made to keep up with fodr like really.
SHTINONCHEVY 1 year ago
@SHTINONCHEVY Bullshit on the 03 cobra beating a ZR-1, no way unless it was a heavily modified Cobra, there is plenty of evidence of LS1 4th gen camaros beating the new 5.0's, please state your sources on your claims and please dont say "fast fords Magazine" or any other biased magazine that gets paid by a company to make claims that aren't true
pntba11er16 1 year ago
@pntba11er16 Nope. The new STOCK 5.0 Rapes every STOCK camaro ever made...
BL80488 9 months ago
@BL80488 yeah...not really
black82s10 9 months ago
@black82s10 Yes it does.
BL80488 9 months ago
@BL80488 since you say stock i will give you 2 that would walk it in true "stock" form:
ls1 camaro stripper model (weighs 3200 as opposed to the normal 3400)
69 zl1 427+4 speeds of mustang embarrasment
black82s10 9 months ago
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black82s10 9 months ago
@BL80488 right, believe what you want bud
pntba11er16 9 months ago
mustang got his ass walked!!! ls1 power!
Uccide 1 year ago
idk y everyones runnin there mouth.. 2 AMERICAN cars so there shouldnt be anything to fight about...
Th3yCaLLM3M0nK3y 1 year ago
LOL mustang got shitted on
StratoBlaster420 1 year ago
wow. stupid comments. who gives a shit about what company is better. its about what u prefer. ford or gm. some fords beat Chevy. some Chevys beat fords. lets act our age a lil. nice camaro btw
gtomagnet 1 year ago
@gtomagnet thanks!
1HOTLS1 1 year ago
camaro for life!!! eating mustangs one at a time!!
91cannibal 1 year ago
That's a weak HCI setup on that fox then, prbly a cheap GT40 setup, because a good HCI fox with gears would beat a cammed LS1, and the 5.0 got pulled..
CalypsoNotch408 1 year ago
i almost forgot,zo6 is the baddest of the bad!suck that shit up ford fags
slickdaddy2010 1 year ago
ford lovers need to face the fact,that chevy power rules the street and the track,shit,the 2010 v6 camaro is faster than the 2010 gt,lmfaoooooo
slickdaddy2010 1 year ago
@slickdaddy2010 the 2010 v6 camaro isn't faster than the 2010 mustang gt...honestly don't know where you pulled that out from. Also, take chevy's super car, the z06, and put it against the ford supercar, the Ford GT, and then eat your words. Your user name is beyond gay btw.
oriclepro09 1 year ago
@oriclepro09 i cant dummy it up enuff for you can i ?you better start doing some research on your fords,cuz u obviously dont know shit about em,except their a ford mustang!ya,real smart.theres some real fuckin brainiacs on here thats for sure,and what the fuck is up with men always talking about being gay,cocks and dicks on here?hmmm let me see,o ya,they MUST be a bunch of closet queers,anyway smart guy do some research and then il let you entertain me some more
slickdaddy2010 1 year ago
@slickdaddy2010 Clearly from your grammar and spelling skills, providing a rebuttal would be a waste of time. Are you mentally retarded? If so, let me know that way I can feel bad for having called out how dumb you are. I literally had to re-read your post 5 times because I had no idea what you were attempting to say. Go watch Fast and the Furious again and watch more youtube vids. I've forgotten more about cars than you'll ever know. God help you if you truely are 38 years old.
oriclepro09 1 year ago
@oriclepro09 only you can help yourself from being a total bafoon,and trying to sound sophisticated just isnt your thing.have you ever heard of reading comphrehension?well research that too jackass before you come back with some more unintelligent stoopid shit,maybe your mom can help you come up with some good comebacks,ur just too dumb for me,next!
slickdaddy2010 1 year ago
@slickdaddy2010 Ohhh, so proper english and correct spelling is "trying to sound sophisticated"...Wel yo mae bee if I tawk lik dis, yull b abell to understand wat im trin 2 say. Go back to school retard.
oriclepro09 1 year ago
@oriclepro09 i waited up last night for 2 hours waiting for a reply from you,and thats the best you could come up with?you surfed the internet for a comeback for 2 hours and thats the best you got?go shoot yourself,your not intelligent enough for me to argue with
slickdaddy2010 1 year ago
@slickdaddy2010 Hahah, you waited up for me? Wow, you just keep proving my "you're a retard" statement. Now, you're stealing my "you're not intelligent" argument, real original. Go watch more pro-camaro vids chevy fanboy.
oriclepro09 1 year ago
@oriclepro09 well bitch,of course i didnt wait up for you,if i thought you could make me laugh with your weak shit i would of..but anyhow,i dont think i need to watch a video to get educated on automobiles!i READ the facts!do you know how read?im sure you do,but you cant comprehend,you have to have an iq for that,anyhow,im not going to waste anymore time on you than i already have because you cant come up with any good shit or funny shit to say...
slickdaddy2010 1 year ago
btw the 5.0 is heads cam and the maro is cam only
BGizzle510 1 year ago
@BGizzle510 Bullshit.
johnnyhotrum 9 months ago
Lol aluminum ls1 block is more upgradable in my opinion and is lighter I like both cars but camaro is my favorite sry mustang lovers camaros stock are straight up better but mustang sound beastly as well I love both these cars
crazyboutcamaro 1 year ago
That camaro wont bust my mustangs azz, I busted a built out the ass lt1, and i sucked the headlights out of a z06 vette that was built really good by about 4 car legnths in a 1/8 mile, and by about 6 car lengths in the quarter. LOL
JameZCody 1 year ago
ELDIESEL503 are u stupid mustangs have been 1 of the most desired cars in America since 1965
87GTMUSTANGFAN 1 year ago
Does anybody know why camaros were discontinued???????????????? LOL!
lightningvolt127 1 year ago
@lightningvolt127 cause they suck
87GTMUSTANGFAN 1 year ago
@lightningvolt127 FORD MADE A COMPLAINT TO CHEVY/GM SAYING YOU GOTTA STOP WHOOPIN OUR ASS MAN! "WERE GLAD YOU DIDNT SUPERCHARGE THEM LS MAROS OUT THE FACTORY CUZ OUR TERMINATORS WOULDA BEEN LOOKN LIKE LIL GIRLS" does that answer your ? =)
1HOTLS1 1 year ago
@1HOTLS1 YOU ARE THE BIGGEST INCOPETENT MORON ON YOU TUBE;)
lightningvolt127 1 year ago
@lightningvolt127 how you figure?
1HOTLS1 1 year ago
Had chevys,could'nt give me one now....Junk.
svtshorty 1 year ago
why didn't ford come out with an all aluminum v8 back in the day?
ez2memorize 1 year ago
@ez2memorize - I asked the same question... Its amazing the new 5.0 is the same size as a 460 big block motor, but it weighs 30 pounds less than the original pushrod 5.0 motor because of its aluminum block. I could imagine the weight savings the fox body would of saved with an aluminum block and heads, it would of easily taken the LX coupe down to 2800lbs.
JayGeePee1 1 year ago
ITS PRETTY BAD HOW CHEVY NEEDS BIGGER MOTORS TO PUSH THERE HEAVY ASS P.O.S. CARS AND ALL WE NEED IS JUS A 302 TOO BEAT U WHINNEYS
mr666tech 1 year ago 2