071127 Vertical Test on Deadline (Mix Tape 06-07)

[megapwn333]

man dont slow down at the approach... looks like ur slowing down.

either ur running too fast or just slowing down just b4 the jump

[dabrain23]

that rim aint 10ft, is it?

doesnt look like it considerin u r 5'10

[EliasJordan3]

You should've started earlier, when it's easier to gain hops. Get jumpsoles or make them or play ball with ankle weights on like Earl Manigault.

[jalee123456789]

have fun with it man, fun hobby but life is soooo much more than just dunking so if u get it tat's great if not that's okay too.

[kizsalightyagami]

ur calf raise only 50lbs?

that could be what holding u back?

[And1slamdunk]

Wow!

That's some inspirational video! :)

How old are you and what is your height?

I'm 16 and 6"1 and at the moment I'm training to dunk too.I can grab the rim but can't dunk yet.

Never give up! :D

[cshsfootball]

when i saw your deadline i was like hey thats my birthday. and then u said it was ur birthday and i was like holy shit dude. plus ive been training to dunk too and can grab rim like you but i am only 15 and im 5'11" and haven't grown in a year and a half. ne way good luck man.

[scoobychau]

Yoo, are u still Training?

never give up man! I am still training week after week.

One day I will dunk! I am not learning O-lifting with some lifting class!

Never give up my man! And please suscribe to my video and join my journey toward dunking!

[cgarizona]

can u hold on to the rim with two hands??and can u palm the ball??? if u can do both of those u will b only a few inches away..some vertical training coach said u have have to be able to touch 10'4 with both hands to dunk

[DaLyricalOne]

LOL love the lil atv world news update touch at the start.. how tall r u nyway?

[scoobychau]

5'11' and not growing any more lol

[BTAKVE]

too much weight training. I am at 6 even and I can dunk and jump higher than most people 6'4. All you need to do is change your diet, run or ride your bike a mile a day, and the key thing I used to seperate myself from everyone else is a swimming pool, run to each end of the pool in the water or jog in place for a while I did it when I saw MJ and Lebron doing it and my endurance and vertical ability skyrocketed another 11 inches so now I am right at a running vertical of 41 inches.

[HighFlyers2008]

Endurance doesn't do shit for jumping, he's on the right track doing power and explosive movements in the weight room... running doesn't do shit I got a friend in high school that does what u listed and he doesn't jump worth a shit because he doesn't train for power and explosiveness which are two very important keys in a great vertical jump.... and those people telling him to do Air Alert need to shut the hell up Air Alert sucks ass and causes nothing but injuries

[BTAKVE]

running may not do shit for him, but for some who have natural jumping ability anyway it maintains it and improves it. MJ was not in the weight room much when he started dunking. By the time he had his 40 inch vertical the only thing he was doing was playing basketball, riding his bike, and changing his diet by the he ended his career using weights and all his highest vertical was 43 inches that is just the difference with some people.

[BTAKVE]

I hardly ever use weight training, I just play basketball occassionally now and I can still go out and with a little stretching graze the rim with my head off one foot and I am 6 even. So it proves my point some have it naturally and just work to maintain it (I do it by swimming occassionally, maybe the treadmill once or twice a week walking for 30 min. and playing basketball 2-3 times a week) and some don't.

[HighFlyers2008]

I highly doubt you can graze the rim with your head... and if you can you need to be getting in a dunk crew like Flying 101 or TFB... and why the hell would you wanna run to maintain it when you can go out and dunk for a few mins 2 or 3 times a week and not only maintain it but work on jumping technique and work on new dunks

[BTAKVE]

I can graze the rim with my head but there are two problems with your TFB talk, #1 I am 17 and don't care for basketball as a career #2 the TFB and Flying 101 guys are hardly getting paid shit. I rather finish my senior year than go off to college and get my MD that is just me, personally.

[BTAKVE]

I just know how to jump because I inherited it from my uncles and dad who all had verticals in the low 40s and one uncle at 48 inches and they are all 6 feet tall but they never pursued college like me and my cousin plan to, oh yeah I am 6'1.

[HighFlyers2008]

I didn't mean joining them as making a living but getting your dunks on their DVD's... you should get some vids of your dunks on youtube sometime

[BTAKVE]

I'll consider it, but I just play for fun now, and I don't want to come across as being cocky or just being able to dunk and nothing else like a lot of those dunk team members

[cgarizona]

i hardly believe u can hit your head on the rim without any strength training but idk...but running does help your vert especially if u run on an incline like on a treadmill...i dont understand about that fast twitch slow twitch stuff but running helped my vert sooo ya

[BTAKVE]

Like I stated it is just in my dna we just know the technique of jumping in my family, we never have to do anything special the only strength training I do is bench press, stepmaster, curls, situps, pushups, and that's about it 2-3 times a week

[HighFlyers2008]

thats just an example of athletes not knowing how to train for vertical jump... Tim Grover MJ's vert trainer came out with a program and it was horrible wrong exercises and too much volume .. if you want proof that plyo's and weights are key just ask people who jump 40"+ off a standstill how they got that way and I guarantee 99% will say weights and plyo's... go look at Squat Dr. he jumps 46" from a standstill and 50"+ with a run up what's his secret you ask plyo's and olympic weight movements

[Turk15]

I think you need to work more on the rest of your body. Get the abs, arms and strong back as well. It'll add up to a higher vertical.

[deserthobo]

his core should already be strong due to squat and deadlift training. from my perspective, it looks like he doesn't hit the plyos as hard as he should be hitting them and he should incorporate oly lifting and sprint training into his regiment.

[scoobychau]

Thanks for your advice,

I am giving "air alert" a try for the plyo part. As for sprinting, I plan to do it every now and than. for some quick 20meter dash etc.

As for oly lifting, I don't have access to a coach yet. I found a place that will have class starting in May 08. I hope i can learn what I need by than. Thanks for your advice.

[deserthobo]

alright. go scooby!

as we say in cantonese:

no lick no lick no lick!

[abeast99]

if u do air alert expect nothin but injuries

[truflight23]

you should practice hangin on the rim when u go up so u jump hard every time it will in a few weeks be easier and easier to grab the ring an before u know it u will be getting high enough to dunk it. when its too easy to grab one handed practice grabbin it two handed

[impssibleisnthing]

scooby can you dunk now? your progress is amazing keep up the good work bro you're an inspiration for all of us

[scoobychau]

Far away from dunking... Recovering from ankle surgery. Thanks for your support!

[nhttr53]

I first watched the video of you doing one leg plyo jumps on a curb...this video proves that the body can adapt to some rigorous training and improve performances! Congrats on reaching (for the most part) your goal. Perserverance is key.

[trance4mation]

if you get a chance visit the max velocity website, i am a trainer there and we train many athletes of all sports. you would probably fall in the basketball conditioning program we have here. again olympic weightlifting is almost in every one of those programs as you can see the importance of it. research it yourself if ya have to. but of course we would never have an athlete perform advance olympic lifting or plyos if he or she was not flexible or in basic physical strength conditioning.

[trance4mation]

i see your determined and everything but you are missing somethings in your training regime and some concepts. regular resistence weight training goes first before anything, even if your powerlifting. but in terms of athletic performance, sprinting ability, jumpping ability. flexibility is key. then comes the more advance athletic training. olympic weightlifting and plyos. you cannot ignore olympic lifting simply and be misled into thinking powerlifting and plyos alone blow olylifting away.

[CoolColJ]

olylifting is overrated...

[trance4mation]

lol overrated? and yet hardly anyone knows how to do it correctly, powerlifting is over rated actually. going into any gym you see someone benching and squatting hoping to improve their athletic performance. while avoiding the advance olympic lifting which is specifically for athletics.

[deserthobo]

oly lifting is not overrated lmao, it's just that no one knows how to do em.

[ballahollic44]

looks like your reactive ability is whats lacking and maybe even body fat. try to go play basketball full court to increase your reactive ability atleast 2x a week or maybe do some plyometrics

[DarkDMD]

I don't think you understand what reactive ability is. Playing full court will only help get his conditioning down. As for bodyfat, he'll have a minimal gain at best from losing anymore.

[joeboto]

part 2

has this 2 second method is sounds like nothing but i gained like 2 inches in 2 weeks i wasnt very flexible could touch floor with middle finger and index finger now i touch the floor with all tips of ma finger :) plus before i could only grab the rim with one hand yesterday i grabed it with 2 any ways check his vids out nd im sure he can help u

[scoobychau]

jump higher pt.2

by Stretchexpert?

i don know which video u are talking about, may be u can post a video response for me,

thanks alot joe

[joeboto]

scooby man ú need to try something its streching ive done it got about 3 weeks and ive seen amazing resluts theres a guy named strechexpert on youtube search his name he

[dandunk76]

come on man i know u can do this!!

[vertgainers08]

hang in there man you can do it... Myree Bowden said it best " dunking is hard, creative dunking is hard, if it was easy everyone would be doing it".... you'll reach your goal just hang in there and keep training

[pattapo]

you are the man!

[trance4mation]

so you do all of these power lifting lifts and plyometrics to try to improve your vertical leap but you dont realize that olympic weightlifting beats both powerlifting and plyometrics. olympic weightlifting improves your explosiveness, sprinting, and jumping.

[sillz10]

olympic weight lifting is a tool. combining regular weightlifting, rfd and plyometerics will blow 'just olympic' lifting away.

[trance4mation]

im sorry to say that you are highly misinformed if you think resistence training beats olympic weightlifting in terms of improving athletic performance. regular weightlifting and plyometrics are great but only small complementary things to go with olympic weightlifting. im a professional track sprinter and a certified athletic trainer and ive train many different athletes this is nothing new to me

[DarkDMD]

Then you are a moron. It is one tool in your arsenal. And if you weren't lying, you'd know that.

[trance4mation]

one tool in my arsenal? olympic weightlifting is the basis of athletic strength conditioning. with resistence training (regular weightlifting) and plyometrics as second complementary essentials. i am an athletic trainer, i do many different conditioning programs with my clients. you should reconsider and maybe call yourself a moron for arguing with an athletic trainer. training vertical leap with my clients is nothing new, i get more kids wanting to improve 40yd dash than vertical.

[DarkDMD]

I don't care what you are. If all you do is olympic lifting then you are a moron. Where does the maximal strength come from for olympic lifts? There must be something behind explosive speed. That is strength, that is best developed by squats, deadlifts, etc.

You want to then turn that maximal strength into power? Move into olympic lifts, plyos, sprint, etc.

[trance4mation]

are you stupid? i never said olympic weightlifting is all i do. i said it is the basis of all athletic strength conditioning. with regular resistence training(squat, bench, etc) as a complementary MUST.along with stretching, plyos, and sprints. your talkin to a certified trainer and profesional sprinter for USATF here. if you think powerlifting is so beneficial and beats olympic weightlifting? why are the best powerlifters so bulky and slow. why are the olympiclifters so flexible,fast,n strong?

[DarkDMD]

I'm not stupid, but you should reread your post. You basically said Olympic lifting is the only thing you should do. Maybe I misread what you were saying, but so did the other guy you were talking to. I actually didn't mean to be so belligerent yesterday, please excuse me for that.

[trance4mation]

and again, i would never have someone follow one of my olympic lifting programs if his general strength condition is poor. thats why i said regular resistence training (squat, bench, deadlift etc..) are complementary things you do first before you go into olympic lifting which is far more advance in terms of technique and the benefits you get. I WOULDnt even let one of my clients do plyometrics if his general strength was poor in a lack of regular weightlifting.

[sillz10]

i am not mis-informed. olympic lifting isn't the end all of lifting for sports. If you do things the right way you can get very far without using olympic lifts.

[trance4mation]

im a profesional athlete myself obviously it takes much more then olympic lifting in itself.olympic lifting is dynamic, explosive thats why its good for sports.if you still insist on powerlifting, as a KIN major, you might actually get slower. but i dont know your plyo program, diet, nor cardio. but i do see body fat. u wanna improve so bad but stubbornly u insist on less advance methods like olympic lifting over basic powerlifting (regular resistence training)plyos should always be done though.

[adarqui]

lol @ "you should reconsider and maybe call yourself a moron for arguing with an athletic trainer."

if you perform regular athletics (sprints/jumps/COD) while on a max effort style power lifting program, i don't see how you could get slower considering your limit strength in squat/deadlift will be increasing while maintaining speed.

if you throw in active rest weeks you should continue to see overshoot, no way you would get slower.

short term slower, after taper=faster.

[james0321]

Sweeeet vid! Looks like your dedicated! You'll definitely get there with that kind of devotion

[allstarNZ]

Sweet vid!!! Keep working hard, you'll get there :D