Tekken 6 Backdash Cancel (BDC) tutorial

[Quinntensity]

I love your Steve Fox Lee outfit.

[DW559]

isn't backdash cancel on player 1 side just wavedash on the player 2 side? :o

[vjdsjgc]

Why is it impossible for me to find a Tekken fight stick. I need an arcade stick. Lol, I played with an arcade stick once..and I saw s wave of improvements in my skill suddenly.

[gazbravofive]

did u just made that stick? im assuming thats a korean bat top?

[XxRAINISM]

okay i find it impossible on right side.. 

[bludika]

Why are u running out of breath just talking and doing the bdc? U must be some obese mother fucker lol

[TZMurakumo]

@bludika

Srsly, WTF kind of comment is that? My hands look like those of someone obese? I've been an athlete all my life--soccer, rock climbing, track and field (sprinter and jumper), distance running, boxing, wrestling, kickboxing and muay thai, jujutsu (MMA)... point is, I'm quite fit and anything but obese.

Tekken is serious business. If you're not sweating, you're not moving fast enough!!! =P

[UltimateHunter1990]

@TZMurakumo So motherfuckin' true man :)

[ThaCVirus]

@TZMurakumo Bro where did you get that stick,it looks soooooo sexy lol

[Purrrception]

@TZMurakumo not gonna lie..intense fights that require ALOT of movement and thinking will get u sweatin a bit haha.

[TZMurakumo]

@bludika

Also, sorry if I was taking more energy and breath to ennunciate so that it's easier for non-nominative English speakers to listen to/pick up. This may have something to do with my traveling around the world as an English teacher/professor. o_O;

[TZMurakumo]

@bludika

... Also I had a cold, which is part of why I sound so damn nasal in the video. o_o

[bludika]

@TZMurakumo relax it was a joke. BTW, how could i improve bdc on the P2 side? bdc on P1 side is so easy for me and i got it down perfectly, but when im on the right, its so much more difficult since i can't use my thumb instead i gotta use my palm and fingers so it's more difficult to be as precise. Any advice?

[Aspiret620]

@bludika

lol'd

[XxRAINISM]

b,b d/b ~ b d/b ~ b d/b is probably the easiest on stick in my opinion

[rockyazis]

your lee looks like steve. :) lol

[SpaceAndTimeHoLLow]

5:05 jackk off that black stick

[killthemall55]

I THOUGHT THAT WAS STEVE AND WTF!!! HE IS KICKIING!!!

[darkspartan86]

Dude after watching this video teaching me how to back dash I just looked up and saw your psn and realized we fought before in a really good match...I won btw :)

[unstoppablesgm]

so basically you just jerk off your stick

[AlmightyMacky]

5 people cant do a back dash cancel

[TheSoufiane]

How do I backdash with a balltop? 

[thecornflakification]

Very Informative tutorial, good work murakumo :) :thumbu:

[skillthatkillz9]

what kind of stick is that?

[TZMurakumo]

@skillthatkillz9

Stick is Myungshin Fanta, buttons are Seimitsu clears... Sanded and dipped to the stick to get it black.

[NinaBRCombos]

@TZMurakumo

IS THAT A MKPCONWAY STICK :)

[TZMurakumo]

@NinaBRCombos

No, it's not, but Paris's sticks are absolutely awesome. I made this one myself. If you are looking for a good stick, though, I would highly recommend getting it through Mr. Marvel Killer Paris Conway!

[NinaBRCombos]

@TZMurakumo

Your stick looks hella nice too! I just got 2 dual mod'd K-Sticks from him. One is a full custom and the other is a HRAP Mod on an SA that I sent him

[giedriuqaz]

thanx that helped

[giedriuqaz]

Lee customizes as Steve Fox. Very creative but how, i cnat find red pants :/

[Addam3000]

@giedriuqaz

dude,default color,and put red pants...

[giedriuqaz]

@Addam3000 im blin or im dushbag, but i don't see red pants in lee custom panel. Is this Tekken6? I gues so i see Azazel's chainber. Dont understand :/

[TZMurakumo]

@giedriuqaz

Should be on costume colors IIRC (color 1, color 2, or color 3)

[kloud51]

what does xN mean?

[TZMurakumo]

@kloud51

xN from math... N is any Number you want to input, meaning for however many repetitions. e.g. If you want 4 backdashes, repeat that input 4 times (In that case, N=4).

[ashanirpaneer]

How do you get a joystick like that?

[TheMANaboveYOU]

by mistake i found that b,b,d/b,b,b,d/b,b,b, etc. backdashes if u do it really fast. Is this bdc as effective as the one u do?

[TZMurakumo]

@TheMANaboveYOU

It all depends on your execution speed and comfort. As long as it works and you're able to control speed/range and cancel to block, any way is as good as any other.

[getbigordietrying1]

ahhhhhh wtf i realy dont wtf ur movements are im so confused

[Keldarain]

You sound somewhat like Sylar from Heroes.

[l2moua]

thanks for the tip...and an unbiased one at that :)

[yungsh0w]

do you have any tips on how to cancel the hit man stance in one motion..i've seen this tekken match of figthtinggm and he use's lee and was doing it real quick and going into a next move,so if you can help me out with some witht some input or a vid of it, that would be appreciated

[TZMurakumo]

@yungsh0w

Tapping any down direction or back will cancel HMS immediately. Tapping a down direction also puts Lee in instant FC (you don't have to wait 7 frames like normal), which is how we can slide or silver tail so quickly from HMS. You can also backdash directly from HMS.

HMS to a quick 2,2,3 for example would be [HMS] b~N+2,2,3

[jinroque]

hi friend like you to cancel d +4 4''3 in 6:59 minutes

[jinroque]

hi friend like you to cancel d +4 4''3 in 6:59 minutes

[SvennemanZZZ]

is backdash b,d,d/b or b,d/b?

[MistMatch]

@SvennemanZZZ

correct notation is b,b,b/d(cancels) and repeat.

[SvennemanZZZ]

@MistMatch but don't the b, b/d mix into a b,b,b/d ?

[MistMatch]

@SvennemanZZZ

yea. i also think it depends on sticks(?). but yea when you actually make the motion of b, b/d the b/d counts(and already inputs) the b or according to this video and i think it actually works. go try it out if you have doubts. thats how i bd anyway.

[SvennemanZZZ]

@MistMatch question, where did you get that awesome stick and do you prefer fanta stick over the balls ? I myself have a super street fighter 4 tournament edition fighting stick, which I am very satisfied about, but since I see all koreans use it I wonder if its better or not

[MistMatch]

@SvennemanZZZ yea im not this video's upploader :]. and honestly i dont really care for fanta or balls as long as it clicks but i think you should get fanta sticks. hey the stick doesnt matter. it matters if the user is fine with the stick. if you are comfortable with your own then stick with it. i mean cmon, rip used a freagin ps3 controller in EVO so that proves it.

[phoking817]

I must say that your stick is AWESOME

[papa2hot]

(TZ Da Law posting) Great stuff Murakumo. We met in MD at Xanadu where you so graciously showed me your crazy Lee oki. I'm in the process of upgrading my movement and it's always great to see such an informative vid to give me a third option I didn't know of before. I'm all smiles... thanks sir!!!

[TZMurakumo]

Yea for Bryan, the most accurate BDC method by far is the...

bb,d/b, N, b,d/b, N, b,d/b, N... You hold the back, then towards the end of your dash, slide it to d/b... this will never give sway. That d/b still counts as the first back input though so the N and next single B gives another dash, hold, slide to d/b... takes some practice (that's the method I mention in the video I used first, but stopped when I was cancelling the BD too soon). If you use that method, you'll NEVER get the sway.

[deathbybears]

Thanks for the thorough reply; also, I'm a Bryan player, and I'm aware of his complications with back-dash canceling given his sway ability. By far, I feel that the best method you posted was this: "bb, d/b,N,b,N, d/b,N,b,N". With Bryan, I'm able to do it fairly consistently without activating sway, though only from the P1. From P2, I don't think I've been able to backdash or cancel once via: "d/b,N,b" in the way that I'm able to from P1. Using this method, can you bdc with Bryan from P2?

[deathbybears]

Impressive video; where did you get your stick? I've been trying to find a taeyoung fanta for a while.

[TZMurakumo]

@deathbybears

I brought the stick back with me from Korea (lived there for a year). The box was made by Voltech on SRK. I ordered my buttons from lizardlick, which imports them from Japan, and I edited the image up myself. I used an MCCthulhu and did my own wiring/soldering and such.

[McYaballow]

7:00 lmao

[M1GV3L0N]

nice stick

fanta stick la lleva para los dash

buen tuto .

[plangganeta]

wow.

[ONEDEADLYVENOM]

Awesome tutorial bro , I finally bought me a quality stick recently , n I wanted to get into the correct usage n application of wding n bding n light dashing so any help like what u did in the above video , will mos def be appreciated !

Thank u bro ODV out ! Tz member also

[Heavyd888]

hahah is it just me or does the video make your voice sound deeper?

[thatchbro]

wow, what a joystick!! made the screen yourself?

[personalit]

Awesome tutorial and nice stick man...

[Shoureppa]

Good stuff, is there a list of who can BD the fastest to slowest because i feel certain characters are alot faster than others.

[TZMurakumo]

@Shoureppa

The ececution is the same speed, but some characters just seem to have longer backdashes than others, so they create more space with this (Alisa... Bears have a nice backdash, too).

[nahnah21]

@TZMurakumo but how do you bd with Bryan since he does the sway? :(

[TZMurakumo]

@nahnah21

You have to avoid the 'down' input with Bryan.

bb~d/b, b~d/b, b~d/b will work.

bb, d/b,N,b,N, d/b,N,b,N also works.

Even bb, d/b~b,b d/b~b,b works...

If you hit d,d/b, though (as in qcb,b), then you get the sway. So for sway characters, you just need to avoid hitting any 'd' input, which does make it a bit more difficult.

[nahnah21]

ok thanks very much man :)

[reallaw]

good shit....