Don't forget the turbo, Methanol. And something about 4 or 5 bar of Turbocharger pressure. The Bt52 Bmw Engine 1500cc and 4 bar pressure 1400/1500hp at 12000 Rpm this only in 1 Qualification round. Nelson Piquet F1Car. This is story search in the web. Now we are in the 21 century and this technology is not only for Formula 1 Teams. This video is an example.
haha i laugh at your foolhardiness to think that 1400hp could go into a sandrail and you STILL be able to control it, you sir, are a douch. And i'm pretty sure i'm not the only one thinking it here; i'm just the only one saying it.
Yeah but this guys bragging and talking s**t. i understand a 1000hp rotary could and probably IS in a sand rail as a "it can be done" project, but a 1400hp? your pushing the limits of the rotary engines design at that range, and it would be highly unstable with the power curve needed to reach those numbers.
OK well why didn't you say that in the first place? read over your comment. it sounds like your another one of these tossers who reckons there the one who owns the 1660hp rb or the 2000hp drag v12. you mean your running the same SERIES rotary that this one is? if so i appoligize.
With a three rotor the torque curve would jump at about 4k and then be linear with rpm with that size turbo. I've drove a 1000hp 13brew and it wasn't unstable at all. The rotaries exhaust pulse is so strong that boost comes in at low rpm and is fairly easy to modulate at higher rpm.
i understand that, but there's a BIG difference between 1000hp and 1400hp. It seems that you know your stuff. But to use this motor above (which is what were talking about here) in a sandrail would be difficult, because it is specifically made to push out big numbers, and nothing else. Those motors tend to be hard to drive when put in a car, now put that in a super light sandrail and once boost kicks in you'll be spinning out. You could do it, but no point, you can't really drive it.
It really depends on how the sand rail is geared. Whats the final drive. If it uses a auto, auto cvt, or a manual. I've seen 1100hp and up mud racers that are very controllable. Some of them had pro stock engines, pretty crazy.
Yes, but it runs more like a two stroke than it does a four stroke engine, so if you're comparing it to a conventional 2L engine, you're not doing it right. Try comparing it to a 4L engine, then you'll be closer.
You can't compare their displacements because they operate completely differently from one another, "that's it that's all". One is not superior to the other, one is not inferior, they both have advantages and disadvantages. It's when people use piston engine logic to classify rotary engines' displacement that the arguments start. :)
this man is exactly right, for everybody who posting comments like "OMG 1400HP from 2,0litre..." do some research, ther are many people that have knowledge, but you dont want know that because you like comment like pointed above... both rotary and 2-stroke burn all their displacement in one shaft revolution, four-stroke in two revolutions so in 2 revolutions of shaft-2 liter rotary and 2T wil burn 4 liters but 4 stroke 2 liters, its so simple, trust me, I am fan of rotary but also I am realist..
ya, but does it really matter if the 2L rotary burns all 2L per shaft revolution? Is it the rotarys fault that the 4 stroke 4L can only burn 2L of air and fuel per crankshaft revolution? Isnt the point of any engine to be able to burn as much fuel and air per cycle? Adding a turbo in fact makes it burn even more than 2L. If its running at 2bar, then its really burning 4L of atmospheric air and fuel. It has massive advantages over 4 strokes, weight, operating speed (RPM) and simplicity.
If I could build an engine that only weights 50lbs but burns as much air and fuel as a 6L V8, does it really matter how I accomplish this as long as its still as reliable and fuel efficicent as the V8? wouldnt you take the 50lb engine over the 500lb engine? Electric cars would rape everything if the batteries werent so damn heavy, and they didnt have crappy ranges.
Of course, but for comparing it does matter. Advantages today are weak. Operating speed isnt higher then todays four-strokes and weight if we consider racing engines never was advantage. R26B four-rotor had 700HP and weight 180kg. Todays comparable four-stroke has less than 150kg some even less than 130kg... Simplicity, yes but today I see only one advantage-reliability. Hey, if you running 2bar boost, absolute pressure is 3bar so no 4 liters but 6 liters.
very true, my bad, 6L of air. not bad for a 2liter running on 25lbs boost. Ya the 1990 R26B weighed in at around 400lbs. but so does a modern day LS2 that puts out 400hp with an all aluminum block.
very true, some potential for shaving some weight is there. all side plates are cast iron and today you can buy them from billet aluminium, expensive but for racing and aviation very good. Bare block 13B with these weight 110lbs so bare block 26B would have around 220lbs. but dont forget I compared racing engines, LS2 could be build for power of R26B. Shame is, that stock 13B-Turbo has sou heavy manifolds and with turbo and all crap its weight is close to all Aluminium LS engines
it really is amazing butt it can be achieved with piston motors 1.5 liter turbo f1 engines in 86 were makeing close to 1400 horsepower 70psi boost.... they only ran that much for qualifying and it took out a transmission in a few laps from what i hear but thats really crazy almost 1hp per cc is insssannne
not even 1400hp ! crap motor.......... my engine is better
10a N/A that pulls 4000 KW !
1973mazdarx4coupe 1 year ago
@1973mazdarx4coupe my lawn mower has more power then that sucker!
mrgixxer100 11 months ago
Don't forget the turbo, Methanol. And something about 4 or 5 bar of Turbocharger pressure. The Bt52 Bmw Engine 1500cc and 4 bar pressure 1400/1500hp at 12000 Rpm this only in 1 Qualification round. Nelson Piquet F1Car. This is story search in the web. Now we are in the 21 century and this technology is not only for Formula 1 Teams. This video is an example.
Lieburner 2 years ago
i had this rotary in my sandrail......and big chevy V8's could'nt touch me all day..!
woi2ld 2 years ago 2
all day huh? so it only lasted one day? :-P j/k
negativeeffect15 2 years ago
@negativeeffect15 ....yeah ALL day , until it died , and one of the BBC's ATE IT..!
woi2ld 2 years ago
haha i laugh at your foolhardiness to think that 1400hp could go into a sandrail and you STILL be able to control it, you sir, are a douch. And i'm pretty sure i'm not the only one thinking it here; i'm just the only one saying it.
hotwyr69 2 years ago
there actually are 1000hp plus rotaries in sandrails
e2emceesquared 2 years ago
Yeah but this guys bragging and talking s**t. i understand a 1000hp rotary could and probably IS in a sand rail as a "it can be done" project, but a 1400hp? your pushing the limits of the rotary engines design at that range, and it would be highly unstable with the power curve needed to reach those numbers.
hotwyr69 2 years ago
@hotwyr69 your the douche , dumb-ass....I had this Mazda Rotary engine...NOT this EXACTONE IN THE VIDEO
woi2ld 2 years ago
OK well why didn't you say that in the first place? read over your comment. it sounds like your another one of these tossers who reckons there the one who owns the 1660hp rb or the 2000hp drag v12. you mean your running the same SERIES rotary that this one is? if so i appoligize.
hotwyr69 2 years ago
point taken..........no prob.
woi2ld 2 years ago
With a three rotor the torque curve would jump at about 4k and then be linear with rpm with that size turbo. I've drove a 1000hp 13brew and it wasn't unstable at all. The rotaries exhaust pulse is so strong that boost comes in at low rpm and is fairly easy to modulate at higher rpm.
e2emceesquared 2 years ago
i understand that, but there's a BIG difference between 1000hp and 1400hp. It seems that you know your stuff. But to use this motor above (which is what were talking about here) in a sandrail would be difficult, because it is specifically made to push out big numbers, and nothing else. Those motors tend to be hard to drive when put in a car, now put that in a super light sandrail and once boost kicks in you'll be spinning out. You could do it, but no point, you can't really drive it.
hotwyr69 2 years ago
It really depends on how the sand rail is geared. Whats the final drive. If it uses a auto, auto cvt, or a manual. I've seen 1100hp and up mud racers that are very controllable. Some of them had pro stock engines, pretty crazy.
e2emceesquared 2 years ago
i only have one question, how heavy is that thing.
kenjigraphics 2 years ago 2
aaron9696024 ur an idiot that was the renault gordini v6 that made 1500hp in qualifying not a 1.5 piston engine
aceabkcraft 3 years ago
It was the BMW 1,5 litre that made almost 1500hp with 6,6 bar of boost.
CodeDevil 3 years ago 2
as seen in the Brabham/BMW BT52 back in the 80s...crazy. The motor in this video is just as sick
MyTubeUser321 3 years ago 2
Thats 366hp per 654cc rotor. 654x3=1962cc
Try doing that from a 2lt piston engine.....lol
DMRH69 4 years ago
you could do that from a piston engine 2.0
enemyracing 4 years ago
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well a 20b is a 2.4l
kcdclan 4 years ago
hahahah no its not you freekin moron its a 2.0 lol wow learn rotarys
enemyracing 4 years ago 2
Yes, but it runs more like a two stroke than it does a four stroke engine, so if you're comparing it to a conventional 2L engine, you're not doing it right. Try comparing it to a 4L engine, then you'll be closer.
AreThereNoMoreNames 4 years ago 2
lol yea rotarys are wierd the 5 stroke motors but its all messed up lol
enemyracing 4 years ago
Five stroke motor? What are you talking about? Do you even know what that means?
AreThereNoMoreNames 4 years ago 3
wrong... you just cant compare a rotary and a piston engine. thats final.
its a 2.0L engine with 3 rotors.
bring any type of 2.0L piston engine... thats it thats all.
I think it's funny... Piston guys call our motors "inferior", yet they have to make special rules to class our engine size...
rx7outlaw 3 years ago
You can't compare their displacements because they operate completely differently from one another, "that's it that's all". One is not superior to the other, one is not inferior, they both have advantages and disadvantages. It's when people use piston engine logic to classify rotary engines' displacement that the arguments start. :)
kotomile 3 years ago 9
this man is exactly right, for everybody who posting comments like "OMG 1400HP from 2,0litre..." do some research, ther are many people that have knowledge, but you dont want know that because you like comment like pointed above... both rotary and 2-stroke burn all their displacement in one shaft revolution, four-stroke in two revolutions so in 2 revolutions of shaft-2 liter rotary and 2T wil burn 4 liters but 4 stroke 2 liters, its so simple, trust me, I am fan of rotary but also I am realist..
999miki 3 years ago
ya, but does it really matter if the 2L rotary burns all 2L per shaft revolution? Is it the rotarys fault that the 4 stroke 4L can only burn 2L of air and fuel per crankshaft revolution? Isnt the point of any engine to be able to burn as much fuel and air per cycle? Adding a turbo in fact makes it burn even more than 2L. If its running at 2bar, then its really burning 4L of atmospheric air and fuel. It has massive advantages over 4 strokes, weight, operating speed (RPM) and simplicity.
helldamnfart 3 years ago 3
If I could build an engine that only weights 50lbs but burns as much air and fuel as a 6L V8, does it really matter how I accomplish this as long as its still as reliable and fuel efficicent as the V8? wouldnt you take the 50lb engine over the 500lb engine? Electric cars would rape everything if the batteries werent so damn heavy, and they didnt have crappy ranges.
helldamnfart 3 years ago 2
Of course, but for comparing it does matter. Advantages today are weak. Operating speed isnt higher then todays four-strokes and weight if we consider racing engines never was advantage. R26B four-rotor had 700HP and weight 180kg. Todays comparable four-stroke has less than 150kg some even less than 130kg... Simplicity, yes but today I see only one advantage-reliability. Hey, if you running 2bar boost, absolute pressure is 3bar so no 4 liters but 6 liters.
999miki 3 years ago
very true, my bad, 6L of air. not bad for a 2liter running on 25lbs boost. Ya the 1990 R26B weighed in at around 400lbs. but so does a modern day LS2 that puts out 400hp with an all aluminum block.
helldamnfart 3 years ago
very true, some potential for shaving some weight is there. all side plates are cast iron and today you can buy them from billet aluminium, expensive but for racing and aviation very good. Bare block 13B with these weight 110lbs so bare block 26B would have around 220lbs. but dont forget I compared racing engines, LS2 could be build for power of R26B. Shame is, that stock 13B-Turbo has sou heavy manifolds and with turbo and all crap its weight is close to all Aluminium LS engines
999miki 3 years ago
naturally aspirated at that
fatjoe1114 1 year ago
@fatjoe1114 whats naturally aspirated? not this engine...
Tj1056 1 year ago
but for real world everyday driving if you have one pre ignition your doin a rebuild
fatjoe1114 1 year ago
it really is amazing butt it can be achieved with piston motors 1.5 liter turbo f1 engines in 86 were makeing close to 1400 horsepower 70psi boost.... they only ran that much for qualifying and it took out a transmission in a few laps from what i hear but thats really crazy almost 1hp per cc is insssannne
aaron9696024 4 years ago 2
I would stick tht in a golf cart!
CursedLink666 4 years ago 2
get that englne in a mini or 206 LOL it will fly
neel35 4 years ago
I`m speechless!
khsfxt 4 years ago
who needs pistons
bigbirdpete 4 years ago 16
agreed
Lypur 4 years ago
hahaha
90Turbo7m 4 years ago
well when your apex seals go out ill tow you away with my truck with 8 pistons =)
killerb789 4 years ago
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haha good comment .. pistons all the way
chevypower421 4 years ago
Damn! Turbo looks like it belongs on a Cat C15, not a rotary!
Alisterwolf66 4 years ago
wicked..
JudgeItoRx3Sp 4 years ago
thats sick
css360 4 years ago
Well done to Grandad and GSR. Yeah - What a f@cker! LOL
HYM33 4 years ago
ROTA POWA!!!!!!!
walshie1000 4 years ago
fuck me
denn3z 4 years ago