Space Analyst Explains Sky Spiral

[trotskiii3]

WHAT A LOAD OF BULL

[danschaoticmind]

@PaintedTeleportation That one. The rocket could have been for one of 2 major things:

Training (Military exercises)

Testing (New rocket type

Those are the likely reasons. Remember though: one cannot say for certain what it was doing as the Russians decided to keep the details classified

[danschaoticmind]

@PaintedTeleportation The missile is quite small actually. The point is easy to confuse as the main body. But consider again our rotating cloud, like anything it tends to start out close and dense, it then expands and produces this vivid display. However, allow me to note though, that the cloud producer was not an SRB motor. More than likely (And we may never fully know since Russia does classify its missile systems) it was a liquid upper stage. Which means far more gas to go through.

[danschaoticmind]

@PaintedTeleportation Will not be quite as pronounced. However It WILL give you a decent analog of how gas behaves in a low density/vacuum environment.

[danschaoticmind]

@PaintedTeleportation This is a perfect real world example of the effects I am talking about. It is reproducible and observable. If I may lend an idea to the mix:

Get a weather balloon (100 bucks on Amazon) a video camera you won't miss, a gps tracking beacon (about 200 tops) and a CO2 canister. Set up a small rig so that when the balloon pops, a trigger is released, causing the gas to be released rapidly. You will get a similar reaction. Only thing is, you are still in atmo, so the effect >

[danschaoticmind]

@PaintedTeleportation Considering that they are not being stopped by the atmosphere and ejected at a high enough velocity that they scatter over a greater distance before being encumbered by gravity, then yes, it makes perfect, logical sense. consider this video: /watch?v=fCM5m45hjfs From 3:44 on is a perfect example. You will notice the gas being emitted from the small thrusters, spreading out in a VERY wide pattern and forming the large plate shapes which follow a spiral shape.

[danschaoticmind]

@PaintedTeleportation Furthermore, due to the height (Around 300 miles) anyone who is within the horizon will see that exact same thing only from different angles. (From what I have come to understand, the usual horizon level is around 500-800 miles in every direction. Though over water it was close to 1200 miles.

[danschaoticmind]

@PaintedTeleportation The problem with your comment is that you seem to misunderstand ballistic trajectory. When anything hits an apogee (As this one had done) it tends to be at a nuetral speed both in acceleration up and down. So, to the regular eye, it sits there for a few moments, then, it slowly begins to fall. Second, when it runs out of gas, naturally the gas keeps moving on the trajectory it was set on forming the hole. What you don't see (Due to poor lighting) is the missile slowly fall

[danschaoticmind]

@PaintedTeleportation There is that, however, the reasoning for the spiralling (And no it isn't perfect lol) is due to a leak. which caused the formation.

[danschaoticmind]

@PaintedTeleportation The answer is really mundane to some people. However, I consider the "Norway spiral" to be a very fascinating Orbital and space dynamics example. It shows quite well the scatter properties of particles in a zero atmosphere environment. An environment in which the laws of physics are the only things in control.

[danschaoticmind]

@PaintedTeleportation Furthermore: Do we have any evidence from ground sensing stations (RADAR EISCAT ETC) that indicate an electromagnetic pulse or an increase in known and suspected RF energies?

No we do not. If there was an event and it did actually defy our current understanding of events, it would have been all over the peer review journals and would have been announced. (Don't try the government cover up, the argument for that is a red flag for a logical fallacy and the argument will fail

[danschaoticmind]

@PaintedTeleportation Funny thing there: We have no idea what a black hole looks like in reality.

HOWEVER, let us examine the video again. Is there ANYTHING which can produce the same appearance?

Why yes there is, A missile leaking fuel (or firing its attitude thrusters).

In fact, you can do a youtube search and find MANY examples of this same phenomenon being produced by rockets going into orbit (My favorite is some of the sounding rockets we send up)

CNT'D

[Sheerkat7]

What is up with all the rest of the spirals? There are that many rockets failing? Not buying it.

[anthonyp43]

@Sheerkat7 Everyone.Go look at the new zealand spiralls.They are electric blue.The same colour as the norway spiral,but they just hang there.Dont move at all.Just there.Can a misfiring missile do that?Look,of course a misfiring rocket will have that effect.But there are way,way too many showing up.Even where they NOT testing them.They cant just fire rockets over civilian areas willy nilly.lol,thats insane to believe that.Nope,something wrong.And the ancients say,when ya spotted,move 2 high groun

[scoobychel]

Rocket out of controle makes the most sens to me......from the beggining.....looks just like a spinning fireworks that you nail to a post and it spins around....

[MaiconUchiha1]

IS UCHIHA MADARA?

[jfleming23]

its not a rocket...i know....for i am god

[dingostar2620]

I cant believe some people actually think it was a rocket.

[anthonyp43]

@dingostar2620 A space rocket?God give me strentgh,lol.These rockets always have either blue flame,white flames comin from their rears,never orangy red like it should be.And also buy better rockets russia.Yours are spirraling out of control all over the world,lol.Australia,china,new zealand,norway,hell,thought you lot was a military power,?lol.Iv got fireworks that work better.Always someone with an answer though eh dingo?Miko cocku,for 1.Animals are comitting suicide,lol.

[danschaoticmind]

@anthonyp43 You might want to look up some high altitude rocket exhaust videos. Heck even the STS-135 Shuttle launch is an easy one. Your statement is false because this is an observed and well understood phenomenon which you can find MANY examples for.

Try harder.

[anthonyp43]

@danschaoticmind no need to try any harder mr mainstream believer.You sheep are so blind its frightening.zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz­zzzzzzzzzzzz

[danschaoticmind]

@anthonyp43 Do you perhaps have something testable? Like I dunno, anything? Seriously now. How about you put forth a cogent theory and let's see if we can't break it apart line by line and see if it holds up?

[anthonyp43]

@danschaoticmind stop hounding me troll.Go away.Iv said my peice you have said yours.We will agree to disagree.Go watch fox news and drink coffee.

[danschaoticmind]

@anthonyp43 And yet you've really said nothing.

1. You haven't put forth anything testable.

2. You realized this and backed away

Oh

3. I don't watch fox news (I listen top CRI, NPR, BBC World and AP radio news) nor do I drink coffee (I rather like Trublood)

So how about you put forth some solid evidence for once?

Oh, and you spelled I've and piece wrong.

[anthonyp43]

@danschaoticmind And im not going to say nothing,go pick on someone who gives a fuck about you.

[anthonyp43]

@danschaoticmind No in fact i will.This is how retarded you are.Go to my channel.Scroll down the favs in my vids list untill you come to spiralls in the sky.There you will find,hundreds of spiralls etched into various mountains and caves which depict them in the sky,drawn by ancient man.Then you will cme back and say they had rocket malfunctions in ad whatever wont you?Did they have rocket technology back then?You will work it out dude.One day.

[danschaoticmind]

@anthonyp43 Wait. What does spirals in mountains have to do with anything? That is a logical fallacy called a red herring a rhetorical or literary tactic of diverting attention away from an item of significance.

This is not evidence of anything other than the fact that ancient cultures recognized the commonality of the spiral and postulated on its significance. (Oh and it fits as a non sequitor The spiral in the sky looks like spirals on a mountain made years ago! It MUST be connected)

[danschaoticmind]

@anthonyp43 You might do well to watch this:

/watch?v=OKdG7yGi0KA

(Oh and I do believe life exists on other planets. I believe there is good evidence of this, but I do not believe they are coming to earth. There is no evidence which supports the notion of alien visitation)

[danschaoticmind]

@anthonyp43 Actually, here is a perfect example:

/watch?v=fCM5m45hjfs

Pay attention at 3:52 on. You see, outside of the atmosphere, the exhaust spreads out in all directions.

(And notice the spiral formation too)

[TheWTZ1983]

spinning rocket??? and somebody lighted it up form the earth??? what kind of space analyst this guy is??? I would say, poor analyst.

[3KOBAIN]

Them 2 guys need a good hard bitch slap.

[anthonyp43]

swamp gas

[dingostar2620]

@anthonyp43 LMAO

[impactvideo2000]

He just showed the norway missile as an example of what he had seen..

It is a pretty simple concept so why the poblem.

if it walks like a duck and quacks like duck .............why look further than a duck

[NinjaLocc]

Bullshit. He said " My assumption". I don't think so.

[klaxen13]

doesn't look at all like a rocket spiral....



[elektron2kim]

Army rockets and missiles don't create such (huge) visual light effects due to detection issues of the eye of a potential enemy. Iraq and Afganistan, even new years eve, would be full of such if we should believe this explanation. Next is the spin mentioned that would create smoke spirals and seldom happen, so I wonder how many spinnning rockets the guy saw in his life. Last, why fire a missile/rocket there and who did it? For orbit next to the northpole?

[impactvideo2000]

The enemy wouldnt know its coming and they wouldnt see the bright nozzle plume as they are seeing it from the other direction ie. from there are many films of the same phenomena so wats the problem. .It is a test firing and someone is bound to witness failures like this during the many hundreds of tests around the world each year. what is so difficult in believing the obvious scenario.

[Aslanx10]

@impactvideo2000

It has a thinner based blue spiral leading to a white PERFECT rotating spiral that disappears into a hole that enlarges perfectly even.

[drummerskuke]

@impactvideo2000 yo dipshit, have you seen the whole vid? what, are they filling missiles with anti-matter nowadays? cause at the end of the actual vid that thing, whatever it is, straight up wormholes outta the sky. and whatever it is, it certainly aint man-made. I would also like to point out it is narrow-minded bullshit eating people like you which prevent the human race from advancing and traversing the cosmos by not accepting the simple fact that were not the only intelligent life! peace

[sandpaperhands]

It may not be aliens but it's not a rocket u fuqtards

[parkourbob]

thats no fuckin rocket

[Hekigyoku1]

I have no opinion about it but I just think its just one of those neat things we get on earth ") but if people wanted true science fact and discovery, they would send somebody up there to fly through it, disregarding the gammablue project in Iran or whatever.

[mcrochev94]

UMM WAIT A MINUTE HERE DOESNT ROCKETS OR MISSILES GIVE OFF SMOKE TRAILS WHEN LAUNCHED (LOOK IN THE VIDEO NO SMOKE TRAILS )#2 WHAT MISSLE HAVE YOU EVER SEEN DISAPPEAR AS IF IT IS A BLACK HOLE(AS YOU CAN SEE THE ANALYST AND OTHER ANALYSTS DID NOT GET TO THIS POINT AT ALL IN THE VIDEO) AND FINNALY HOW COME IF IT WAS A MISSLE THAT FAILED WHY IN THE WORLD IS IT STILL ASCENDING UP DONT GRAVITY PULL THINGS DOWN AND LOOK AT THE TRAJECTORY OF THIS MISSILE AND WHERE ITS COMMING FROM RUSSIA IS NOWHERE NEAR

[TheLadyFirecracker]

@mcrochev94 Yeah you're right! It would have trailed off.

[danschaoticmind]

@mcrochev94 Learn to astrophysics.

[magrathean0]

Assuming the rocket is in the region of 50 + miles away from the observer (in the upper atmosphere), from the film it should be possible to calculate the approximate (minimum) size of the circles the rocket is travelling in and the total size of the expanding spiral of gases.

[idlenessss]

uh...i dont understand why people are so violently denying the explination given to them. To me it seems quite plausible

....what would you expect it too look like, if a rocket begins tumbling at high altitude? not like this? To me it looks correct....if you disagree, is there some good reason?

distrust of the media is fine and all, but have some reason. Fireworks for example simulate this exact sort of spiral the same way as the news explains it.

[danschaoticmind]

@idlenessss Typical conspiracy theory stuff really:

Deny the explanation cause "Tha man" gave it.

Truth is there hasn't been a decent argument which suggests otherwise.

Any examination of this with precedents (Saturn boosters for example, or even apollo 13 if you like) and you begin to see a simpler explanation taking shape which tends to be the most likely. Occhams razor if you will.

[TheGreatZombieJesus]

I'd have believed it was Santa Claus before I'd believe that story...

Oh yeah, thanks for the advert as well.

That's what I want to watch on youtube.

[MrVforvendetta10]

look who the news source is, good old cbs news, they wouldnt know the truth if jumped up and bit'em in the ass.bill harwoods obviousy is on the payroll.

If YANKEES believe this sort of bullshit on there news channels, then there bigger dumbasses than we thought.

[DaSamoan23]

That's got too perfect a spiral... The fibonacci sequence is perfectly executed in that wierd phenomenon. The explanations they're giving can't even hold a drop of water to the truly observant.

[thecentrinox]

i fucking hate the media and how they laugh at what seems to be much more logical than the bullshit they come up with. smug motherfucking fucktards

[DJCW]

WTF is with all these damn commercials! If I wanted to watch commercials I'd watch TV. oh and great (ahem) scientific analysis there Bill (in what?) just over 1min. Applause & Check Please. Yeh yeh we know, a spinning rocket, outta control, nothin to worry about, go back to sheep..er sleep, people.. For those who are at least a tiny bit sceptical of media tripe try looking at SURA. SURA is Russia's HAARP. Research Tesla & HAARPs list of patents/capabilities?

[DJCW]

Cheque*

[N8iveNik]

How does spinning a dildo on a news show prove it was a rocket? Was there any metal or fuel on the ground after the "explosion." Nothing has been found because whatever this is came and left. It ain't no rocket, its beyond us.

[ihahahayou]

You see the spiral has at least five halos and keeps on turning. It appears it has been turning in perfect shape for more than ten times. That wouldn't be a failure of a rocket, but a success for beating the impossible like a flying pig. It should come out on the world guinness record of all human history both past and future.

[emill151]

Yeah right a missile spinning in such control and slowlike, its a portal! aliens brainwashed bill and took his family! xD

[NakedMosesProduction]

its so funny to watch people out of their comfort zone...still not a single report of proof it was a rocket. they must be freaking out...

[ALEXZANDERMEJ]

LOL failed missle Come over here and let me slap you in the face while you spin that stupid rocket

[ALEXZANDERMEJ]

" Hi Im Bill Harwood and I like stuffing this model rocket up my butt"

[relyt2210]

what the fuck this is such bullshit! why do they think we believe this fucked up shit? i guess their just fucking retarted.

[jclemens1970]

Hey Bill Hardwood,, shut the fuck up

[dangerousdream3]

yeah its too perfect if it was a failed rocket it wouldnt have been in the same spot like that for 12 minutes ! lol

[2JZSupra626]

Oh god...a failed missle. Yeaaaahhhh riiiiggghhhttt...

Bill's a paid actor.

[aso123321]

hahahahahahah he brought a model rocket

[iILMeeL]

we all should feel offended. thats a bit disrespectful for them to tell us that was a missile. like...thats how dumb they think we are?

[CandlesOfUnity]

I would strongly suggest that Peoples investigate the possible answers given in that recent document :

"SPECIAL PRESIDENTIAL BRIEFING FOR

PRESIDENT BARACK OBAMA"

[stressstressstress]

A missile will never make perfect circles like that no way.

[ElMafioso17]

It was My Fart LikeShit!! I didn think it would be such a big deal !!

[HustlersPlayground]

LIES,LIES,LIES

[cjay22i]

@HustlersPlayground you sound lime my girlfriend bro

[Tuffguy666]

Failed missile, yeah right. One more cover up to add to the rest, they must think we are all thick

[BobbyRice2]

You're thick if you say things are 100% not true.

[Tuffguy666]

ok 99% not true whatever, anyone with any real sense can see this is another cover up come on!

[BobbyRice2]

Sure, I believe it's a cover up, more than I believe what im told by them, but that doesn't mean i'd bet my life it was a cover up. Nothing is true, even if it's information from the 'civilians side'.

[iwishfreedom]

missile? rocket?

No way, if you wanna lie for me , tell me a good one.

[PUORCBULL]

yeah all right, missile spinning and then desappearing in a black hole like... what about the blue light then? isn't all that a projection? some sort of cutting edge disco beacon?

[lolabeaner14]

if that was a black hole we would all be death...wouldnt it? and we couldnt have seen it since a black hole is so strong it can suck up light

[PUORCBULL]

off course it isn't a black hole

a black hole is billion times the size of our solar system

that's either a projection or a nice ending of some device

[JustifiablyPerfect]

actually black holes can be any size. It just depends how early you catch them seeing as how the grow in size as they get older. They can also shrink and close into nothingness. This is why people were so affraid of that big ion collider thing in sweden. Because they thought the massive amount of force created by it would start a black hole that would suck up the earth.

[wrathallll]

Adverts SUCK DICK>>> me no watch

[samdon815]

HEY YOUTUBE ! ! If you keep up these commercials you will loose me.

[TrollGang]

@samdon815 i don't think youtube cares lol.

[samdon815]

@TrollGang No laughing from here .

[TrollGang]

@samdon815 could i give a shit if your laughing or not. eh..........no.

[BAKER80621]

Explain the black hole that comes next!!!!

[gween]

STUPID LYING PRICK. Thats no missile.

[morpher44]

This likes like what HAARP might be able to do in terms of heating the ionosphere. The spiral is too perfect to be a crazy out of control missile. Weather modification? Chaos theory might bite back!

[JigenD]

The Russians were opening a portal to the Xen dimension obviously.

Take a look at the open dimensional portal as seen in Half Life 2 Episode 1. Exact same thing.

[BlackpageGT]

IDIOT!!!!! This guy is an IDIOT!!

[Shaneabu]

its project blue beam. we will find out .the truth soon.

[colormein14]

that man lies. rockets dont spin in a perfect circle when their out of control.

[HaraZaf0TC]

The government hides from us the truth I believe that soon we will know the truth...

[canocrap]

High powered projecter?

[Aceload]

this guy is full of it. Let's find out what's REALLY going on...

[TheProlific1980]

you know what I think. I think we are going to find out soon,whether our governments want us to or not.