seti kick the moors ass. the moors info come for turks.the sun flower medal seal his case.show are brother there info is wrong.brother need to stop dealing with other people believe.we need to has are one unite god/ra. we know the sun protect us from the craker.seti brough the heat.alim bey info is all craker info.we know that we can,t us any info for craker they only tell us lies.seti is the general...
and he has the proof.if you are black and you don,t know white/ jews/arab inslave us.
I'm not Moorish nor deal with their science but within the "conscious community" their views are very much relevant as it pertains to this post modern society that we dwell in. All these branches of the "conscious community" : Pan Africanist, Hebrew Israelite, black nationalist, Nuwabians, 5 per-centers etc. etc. to me personally their views and rhetoric hold no weight in to days society and to days present condition of blacks, the moor philosophy is much more rational and logical
I respectfully disagree with you sir. I grew up in Virginia, didnt have much. Many of my friends who i've remained in contact with my entire life are black. I have insight too experience that has given me an opinion i'd like to share with you if you dont mind.
Money & power corrupt people, not color. Whites have had acces to money and power and therefore are more succeptable to evil. I have been poor, wealthy & am now poor again, humbled. On my rise up the corporate ladder, i noticed a homoginization of people - black and white, they become more alike the higher up the ladder you go. The blacks have no contact with thier "culture" anymore than the rich whites... we are "trailer trash".. and the color that devides us is GREEN, not white, not black.
I have black friends i consider family, my sister Jasmine was adopted she is black. They are all part of my life experience, they share life with me and have helped define my existence. I assure you , not all whites are "the enemy". Just my thoughts. thank you.
I told you already about the footprints. I see your biased and you cannot learn anything with that state of mind so I'll waste no more energy here. That's fine if you want to lock yourself inside a box. You rep Africa, I'll rep the WHOLE PLANET. Furthermore, the internet has all the answers you require. It is a weapon in the freedom struggle, use it.
I'm also not here to do YOUR research. Just type in 'ancient African remains' or 'Negroid skeletons miilions of years old' if you want to see it for yourself.
Sorry, we just have to agree to disagree. That was a step pyramid if I ever seen one (built by our ancestors of course).
As for your question, google how scientists found fossilized human footprints on top of dinosaur prints (no hoax). We know dinosaurs have been here billions of years. We also know Europeans have been here for a couple of mins, bout 6000-10,000 years (give or take). Knowing this, isn't it safe to say those prints were of the Asiatic 'Black' man?
No brother...those are pyramids lol, no denying it. And of course I don't trust most European sources and I overstand the psuedoscience (I know Egyptians pyramids are older). But my point is that most of our bros & sis think Egypt (Africa) is the end all tell all of our history when it is not. Which is older is not the point and to be honest, shouldn't even matter. The point is that we're the original inhabitants of EVERY continent.
My personal opinion is that most of the Black Nationalists and people such as the author of this video didn't listen to Brother Alim Bey because everything he said was clear cut and dry. He never denied a connection to slavery, Africa or Kemet or anything else you claim. His point of view is that Our history goes back 3-4 Billions of years ago and that it's more to it than JUST AFRICA. That is where the divide is. Most so called Black people don't realize our history goes back before so.
...you can't just claim Africa when that is only PART of our history. You all need to understand Moors (aka Blacks/Negroes/Afro/African Americans/Native Americans/Indians/Latino/Hispanics etc) were NOT regional but GLOBAL people so stop thinking narrow minded about only Africa and the Nile river, that TO ME is bogus.
My question to any so called "Black" nationalist is: Why would you only want to claim one part of your history and not the whole package?
...say that he has a good heart and I know he cares about our people but he didn't prove anything to me. He kept trying to connect Moors with the Turks, but Brother Alim Bey proved we go back billions of years before the Turks even existed so how can you say our movement comes from them? Seti said Nobel Drew Ali was working for the Turks and was not a friend of Marcus Garvey. ANYONE who does PROPER research knows this is COMICALLY FALSE. Seti said Noble Drew Ali plagiarized the Circle 7 Koran...
...from the Aquarian Gospel of Jesus Christ, Alim Bey proved that false as it says in the Circle 7, he prepared it by going to the hall of Acoustic records which is done by astral planing. Seti mocked the idea of Astral projection off as spookism even though this is something our ancestors were doing Eons ago and is apart of OUR ANCIENT SCIENCE. Alim Bey provided evidence of our ancient writing, architecture, skeletons etc on EVERY continent while Seti focuses on Africa. Who won again?
How is it comically false when he read the documentation to in the debate that Marcus Garvey had NOTHING TO DO with Drew Ali? Are you just having selective hearing? Also, did my miss the part where he read exact duplicates from both the Circle 7 and The Aquarian Gospel of Jesus Christ and Unto Thee I grant? The man didn't just make a charge he backed it up. Now refute it or accept it as reality but don't dismiss it like it doesn't exist. That is what is comical, Family.
@justfarr1030 - i ain't coming at u or the brother u had disagreement for, but both ya need to peep, the aquarian gospel of jesus i called the aquarian gospel of jesus, the circle 7 Called the circle seven, keyword is called that what they called my nigga, but what the text repesent kemitic universal idea of coming to the god that they are., CONTINUE TO EVOLVE NAGA
"My question to any so called "Black" nationalist is: Why would you only want to claim one part of your history and not the whole package?"
My question to the Moorish National is do you know the difference between Acknowledging something and CLAIMING IT. What land is the richest land on earth and the crown Jewel for any nation who could control it? The place currently known as AFRICA or Lemuria? Get back to me.
Once again you ONLY want to acknowledge and claim Africa. As a Moor, I acknowledge and claim THE WORLD because my ancestors were ALL OVER THE WORLD, not just in Africa. My ancestors were simultaneously on all continents/land masses for billions of years before any Caucasoid or Mongoloid existed. The WORLD is mine by birth rite, NOT JUST ONE CONTINENT/landmass etc. At one time the world was called Asia (hence the term "Asiatic" which is US). This is what our people need to overstand so...
...that we can close this debate once and for all. I acknowledge Africa as A PART of our history but it is most certainly NOT the beginning. Did you know they found pyramids underwater of the coast of Japan that are dated older than any of the pyramids in Africa? Also check on pyramids and our people in the Americas (mainly South America) and see how much older and how far they date back. It is not secret that Marcus Garvey was a HUGE influence on Noble Drew Ali and his Moorish Nationalist...
...movement, no denying that. But what is Seti's point? Noble Drew Ali never said that Garvey had anything to do with him. Noble Drew Ali respected, admired and received much inspiration from Garvey and tried to model his movement after Garvey and the UNIA...doesn't everyone have SOMEONE they look up to?
Once again, if you would actually READ the Aquarian Gospel of Jesus Christ and the Circle 7 Koran you would see CLEAR AND MAJOR DISTINCT DIFFERENCES in the two. For example, in the Aquarian...
...Gospel, Levi describes Jesus as being pale skin, blond hair, blue eyes etc. If you actually READ the Circle 7, you WILL NOT find that description in there...but let's backtrack.
Seti and yourself seem to be confused about this man Levi. First of all the information that he put into his Aquarian Gospel is NOT original info. This information was already known and could be found in India, Egypt AND Palestine but it had been suppressed which is why Noble Drew Ali PREPARED this information for US
It was PREPARED so that our people here in the Americas could understand this information. Noble Drew Ali NEVER said he was the author, he said he PREPARED this information. How could Noble Drew Ali OR Levi for that matter be the author of this information when it was already available? (It had just been suppressed by secret societies and locked up etc) So Seti's claim about plagiarism is obsurd.
See, Seti's accusations can be easily refuted with UNBIASED PROPER RESEARCH.
I'm glad this is coming to the forefront. My only wish is that Sara Suten Seti would sit down with those who are TRUE Moors and not with those who are claiming to be Moors because someone told them they are.
Those of us who are Moors trace ourselves back to TaMaRe, which is on the Land called Afrika today. It's time out for playing games. Our people need to know the TRUTH. I have sent a message to Seti and I got no response. I know its hard to reply to 10,00 emails and messages.
EM Hotep ,,it,s the same old story divide and conquer and it,s been going on thru out his-story,seti is a soldier and a element of the truth, he came correct and had the backing of Dr. ben and many other librators, who know the truth about the MOORS, they exposed them for what they are and I hope seti open the eyes of the mass of uneducated Moors and they unite with their other blk kemet brothers and become one. ASE.
@KEVINBMORE Some shit will never fkn happen! Fuck cowardly wishes for traitors to throw down their legions with parasites! I now understand the way of Papa Doc and ethnic cleansing Africans, that know if you want to maintain your PRIDE n' TRIBE and further it's growth. You must deaden threats of treason flat out or they will use your greatest enemy as a fkn shield! I have gotten real and realized houseniggaz rather die proud housniggaz, then actual men! There will be no unity with traitors!
I agree with u the moors have a problem with being a african and being apart of anything connected to african,I truely think they think being apart of africa is a bad thing or it has no connection to them.which is said it,s like the step kid looking every where to be accepted accept his true family..And if u look at the great debate when they said african they was looking like who me? I,m not african when ur dna has africa all in it ur image is african ur features too.sad bro. very sad.kno self
MOORR COME OUT OF AFRIKA ITS ILLOGICAL to deny roots when we say we are a name we are practisicng tribalism the moors name has no root in our languages its a accepted name but they are the students of egipt who contain some half-wisdom of the ancestors when invaded they became arabiczied
#1. Nothing. This is a debate not mortal combat. What does he have to be afraid of? Ali Muhammad going, "FINISH HIM!" and ripping his head and spine out of his body? Calm down family.
#2. Nice Lawyer question! "Where did you go after you robbed his car?" Brilliant use of a false presupposition. I'm impressed! Seriously though, call me crazy, but...I actually listened to why he canceled the debate and I don't blame him for doing so.
FYI - Everything happens for a reason and I'm cool with that
Come on family! I would rather see brothers on the corner building on the knowledge of self any day versus a brother out there wit a pack!! Are you listening to what the hell you saying? Yeah, we disagree and rant and rave because that's just the passion we have for what we believe in. But in the end were just planting the seed to bring up a mighty and well informed future generation that WILL put it all together and establish peace on this earth from here to eternity!!
You know what I find interesting...the inability for people to lay down their swords when it comes to their brothas and sistas and have a sit down and come to a common denominator. It's embarrassing that we can't even use the Mafia as an example. They can sit down with each other even after they've murdered each others children. We can't sit down until we agree on what our name or the name of God should be. Go figure.
The mind is you! And it means nothing without this form to express itself. I'm not gonna get into this mind body debate with you because a thought is just a thought without some type of vehicle to transmitt itself, so what your trying to argue is irrelevant!! As far as atoms go show me what is in this world that is not of the atom?
livblu u r right, its not about who wopn, if we allcome out winners, so if u all ready to claim your moorish ational status, as indigenous then they will stop treating u all as dred scott negros.
moorish national status? setis argument was to do with who the moors associated themselves with i.e noble drew ali, basically in his opinon how could you associate yourself with a bunch of cracker loving miseducated fools, and disassociate yourselves from your true afrikan identity, and then have the guts to say that the nile valley civilization was not the first, seti won because he came with better info, and made alim denounce his brothers claiming that the afrikan holocaust was a myth.
WE ARGUING OVER WHAT LANGAUGE WE WERE CALL AS IF WE WERE NOT any of them moors have derive from latin moren french muurs who came out of kemet they diverted from the ancient ways of kemet held degrees about our ancient science we identify with the most potent part of our story thats kemet everyone arguing about fragmmented parts of our story chose which part u identify with simple
Islam Mo!! It's a real shame that alot of our brothas and sistas refuse to accept the window of opportunity that's staring them right in the face. Through struggle comes wisdom. We will not be able to save evrybody, simply because they choose not to be saved. Continue to study law and knowledge of self. The government could care less about black people, but when you say I'm a Moor, ears perk up and eyebrows are raised. They already know the deal. WE are the ones the who need to learn..LTPFJ.
the supreme mathematics has been renewed by our pharaoh pa nazdir aferater ti atum-re what was given by malcolm x the insrciber was half-truth as we now know how supreme mathematics fir in our story in the bk DR MZY WROTE entitled creation & science of the pyramids and humans were created from and the bombshell 'holy tablets' no egiptologist rabi imam godbody came close to the jewels in those scrolls
..... and less organized with the passage of time. Everything in the heavens and the earth are submissive to the Original Man and Woman and man partakes in the creatve faculties he has acknowledge in his or hers creator we bonded '14' and it has become inseparable from "6". Man is the viceregent of the starry mansion and the terrestial abode, here nature has wrap herself fully, enraptured with us for a time. Peace!!!
At the exact moment two helium atoms resonated in union, a beryllium atom appeared in the 0.000000000000001 second needed to produce carbon. Here is the undeniable evidence, but for every beginning there is a end, The second law of Thermodynamics is a binding law,
Entropy-Albert Einstein said that it is the premier law of all science, An abandoned car deteriorates and falls apart. Everything in the universe is subject to entropy: the law says that, left to itself, everything becomes less stable
The alchemy labs of the universe, within the womb of the red giant, 6 PROTONS, 6 NEUTRONS, 6 ELECTRONS, the grand alchemist designates 6 is the number of man the diamond tiara of Allah the 6th elemental CARBON the building block of life, stellar nucleosynthesis the nuclei is changed at 10 million degrees celsius. Mans physical shell is arranged in stars exact in measure, resonance and double resonance the key of life and you still look in the sand for your true self.
... that are reflected to our eye. So, how much of the data related to matter is conveyed to us by this information? We have no proof that the original forms of the matters existing outside are fully reflected to us.
When He decides on something, He just says to it, 'Be!' and it is. (Surat al-Baqarah: 117) Noble Quran
...So, to what extent do we perceive the matter we see, hear or smell? It is literally impossible for us to see the matter we believe to exist and see. HOW DO YOU SEE, images are formulated in the brain by photons coming from the sun, or another light source, which absorbs a certain portion of the incoming light, and gives out the rest, which therefore is re-emitted from the matter and strikes our eyes.That is to say that the matter we see only consists of the information carried by photons cont
...chemical reaction with that object, it would be impossible for a human being or any other living being to survive for even a second. The living being would immediately react with the substance on which you stepped, sat or leaned and be transformed to something else. This is supreme wisdom, we live in a world that is 99.95% composed of a void filled with atoms in true essence it is all energy. We actually never touch the things we say, "we touch and we hold"......cont
...of your keyboard you feel a sense of touch depending on the intensity of the repulsion. Previously I manifested the structure of atoms they can come as close as the diameter of an atom, the only atoms that can come close this close are the ones that react with each other. Therefore even the atoms of the same substance can not ever touch each other, then its even more impossible to touch that keyboard in your hand. If you can can come as close to the object in hand you would be in a ....cont
What you imagine around you that you perceive is matter is merely energy your computer, your body, the mouse in hand, your house, the earth, you may ask how can I reason this contradiction so let this knowledge be born, the collision of the electrons in the orbital shells of atoms with photons, and the atoms attracting and repelling each other. You think your touching the keyboard THATS TRYING TO TYPE A REBUTTAL RIGHT NOW, the truth is the atoms of your hands are repellinf the atoms... cont.
How can existence have NO BEING, when the very definition of existence is BEING, Maybe you meant PREEXISTING but reviewing the entire comment in full context and your oversimplification of the MATTER with a psuedo philosophy without a DIRECT SOURCE but demand it of others is a typical materialist prose, lets get down to business,
You said "GOD IS NOT A BEING" which means existing, right? So if the definition of a spirit-- which you say god is because you say he is not man-- means a mystery(unknown) then how is that existing when you cant even prove that a spirit exists by definition? The definition of a spirit is UNKNOWN!!! Which means we dont know WHAT THE FUCK IT IS!!! No one can say with truth that they ever seen one but will turn right around and say that God is a spirit that created our universe!
listening is so important to understanding what someone is saying. This statement by you shows you aren't listening to me:
"No one can say with truth that they ever seen one but will turn right around and say that God is a spirit that created our universe!"
When did I ever say that? I made no separation between the Universe, Reality or Existence. To me everything is everything. What I said was that Existence cannot exist outside of itself. Please refute that statement.
by the way, the statement, "GOD IS NOT A BEING" does not mean existing. It means that a being is finite and how can a finite being be the ALPHA & the OMEGA? Also, what you fail to realize it that you are only interpreting the God concept within the construct of human understanding. This means you use human terms and attach human characteristics to a concept outside of human understanding. Nothing wrong with that but something extremely wrong when there is no awareness of yourself doing it.
just saw the debate, alim banged him. alim case was that we r the origional people here and was here b4 columbus. seti agreed that makes alim the victor. seti also said that we were called moors. alim banged him
nice to see your still blind, its not about who won as mrholipsism said, although seti did come more correct with his info denoucing your noble drew ali, now if you denounce the leader you denounce the followers also.
tats assn9 logic... after seti stated with his own mouth we were moors. and we were here 1st. noble alim bey didnt go to debate noble drew ali
or the 101's. u people r not children. 101's r 4 those under 7. then its 40 yrs in the wilderness
of usa[eye/mind] to relearn what moses72 made u all 4get-WHO U R AND THE 4FATHERS R. its good to go back 2 ta mare, who was your people in 1492? where did your great grand daddy stand? we were here 1st.
Mr Holipsism you are STRAIGHT UP COMEDY to these Europeans by denying your nationality!! 1) Prove to me that BLACK is a nationality by LAW. 2) The 1st law of nature is Self Preservation. 3) How can you make yourself immune to these European Laws here in the Western Hemisphere, if you don't know who you are (A MOOR) ? 4) You can't use emotions or false history to base your knowledge upon 5) Seti is right and exact about Khemetic knowledge....but that will not save you in the so-called U.S.A.!!
keldronfarron...first and foremost thank you for the manner and spirit of your reply. I can always count on brothas and sistas to offer a counter to an argument or point they disagree with respect. #1. When did anyone ever say Black was a nationality? Africa is but...you don't want that. #2. The Self was formed out of the collective and The Self spent the majority of its early years DEPENDENT on family and community.
#3. Where is the MOORISH land base? Are we going to Atlantis to establish a socio-economic and political infrastructure or are we going to hostile takeover the U.S. of A.? #4. Exactly, which is why I'm sticking to a LAND with a HISTORY and a CULTURE and not attempting to return to something buried under the sea. I'm the one who is practical and you are the one engaging in fantasy. #5. At least we agree on Seti being right and exact, but...Seti shouldn't be alone. We should have his back. RIGHT?
I'm trying my best to inform and empower brothers like yourself and Seti with KNOWLEDGE. You seem to be an intelligent brother, but unfortunately you are a WARD of the STATE...you are missing 2 components by International Law (Nationality and Creed) which automatically makes you 3/5 of a man, subject to their jurisdiction!! A Moor that is well diversed in LAW understands that Earth is 3/4 water, it is IMPOSSIBLE not to deal with this European Maritine Law!! We beat them up with their own laws!!
Sun, we are not against each other in any way shape or form. What we need is IDEOLOGICAL CLARITY based on authentic information and direct sources using chronology so we can place everything in its proper perspective. It is not about one thing or the other. We need to think systematically and we need to incorporate our differences into the design of the system. Any system that fails to do so is DOOMED. So, guess what? You can be a Moor or a Hebrew Israelite and still be down. ONE LOVE
a spirit is a energy field that contains the soul call rooakh in kemet it was call ba and when we say the blackman is god we are talking about what the greeks call us theos god is a german term u give 6 ether forces power used their term calling us a title that doesnt even have root in our language our ancestors were call neteru or nezdir(dieties) the dieties have rank the most high re who is in ALL
If so then what difference does it make? Were an walking energy field ourselves. It cannot manifest itself without the human form. If we say it's a field of energy it still leads you to a material source, "ATOMS" !!! Which is the beginning of us ALL!!!
Mr. Holipsism-God is a metaphor for existence itself. God is not a being. A being is finite. God (existence) is infinite. Existence had no beginning and will have no ending.
Your comment is your undoing, a oxymoron. Let's see why,
After i manifest this last discourse I'm done, your weak opinions me nothing to me, just baubles of the day, like bubbles they tend to break in flight.
What I find odd is that amidst the countless volumes of verbiage you've typed in this thread, you still haven't provided any EVIDENCE or a DIRECT SOURCE of your claims that Life did NOT start at the foot of the Nile in Ethiopia. This isn't about my weak opinions. This is about you failing to prove your point. Peace
Mr. Holipsism- Its obvious you have know understanding of the universe from your rhetorical statement "Existence had no beginning and will have no ending". It is the ALPHA and the OMEGA" that materialist dogma that your spitting is going to be shutdown, provide the evidence of of a everlasting universe when i show and prove i want you to bow down to the truth, the numbers i gave you prior in my comments are empirical second gradation from the first moment supreme mathematics, Peace
4me2yall-Peace God, he cant tell what makes a God i just taught him through his Theology of the Nile with divine science who to make a God precise to the second, these mummies still think their born of a monkey.
The supreme intelligence isnt happenstance, its creativity can not be circumscribed. Although the mass of the nucleus is one ten billionth the size of the Atom(Atum), the mass of the nucleus is 99.95% the mass of the Atum, how can something occupy all the given mass but at the same time occupying NO SPACE. And you dare ask what's my source, if the ancient Kemetians, Dogon etc. pointed to the stellar regions the dogstar for one our origins who are you and I to disagree.
....beside zero and it keep producing or making this "one" ten fold more powerful than it is, just by adding zero's."What are you trying to drive us to Muhammad?" I'm saying that the moreof you- who knew nothing and was like zero- are added to the one God, you become something. I'm only now making figures of us and from the figures, we teach and you can understand. Are you still clinging to that APE? . The blueprint of our creation is in SELF generative by gradation from "0",
....who was self created. He didnt come from the creation of another. He's the creator Himself-The First-remember that. He made Himself in a circle so that the wisdom of His self-creation could keep going to give knowledge, wisdom ans understanding to you and me. I want us to remember that.
Out of darkness came One and then He took the Unknown and put it in front of Himself. For what? To produce the Known. That's why the zero goes in front. To make more zeros, He puts more up there cont.
of ATUM(ATOMS), the power is hidden in the nucleus, the radius of the atom(atum) is 10-8(0.00000001)cm, the radius of the nucleus is 10-12(0.000000000001)cm. the volume of the nucleus is equal to 10 billionth of the volume of the ATOM(ATUM),
LETS SEE WHAT A LITTLE MAN WITH A 4TH GRADE EDUCATION SAYS, page69 The Theology of Time, Elijah states "Elijah why did you make the zero round?" Because that's the way the universe was before the the creation of man. Out of it we came by One cont.
Ptahs Ennead is before him as teeth and lips. They are the semen and the hands of Atum. For the Ennead of Atum came into being through his semen and his fingers. But the Ennead is the teeth and lips in this mouth which pronounced the name of every thing, from which Shu and Tefnut came forth, and which gave birth to the Ennead. Air, water, mountains, animals, plants, your body, the chair on which you sit, in short, everything you see, touch, and feel, from the heaviest to the lightest is formed
There took shape in the heart and on the tongue the form of Atum. The very great one is Ptah, who gave life to all the gods and their kas through this heart and through this tongue in which Horus had taken shape as Ptah, in which Thoth had taken shape as Ptah.
and at the same time try to uphold the Divine mysteries of Ta Neter without understanding the contradictions, I will provide Quantum Theory to drive home the point, and if you thought astral projection was individual spookiness, but it is apparent that the latest theories of our time 2009 validate the parodox of both the physical and the metaphysical, particle and wave existing at the same time but let me not get to far ahead of myself. cont.
The preceding passage was from the Coffin Text which originated in the Nome of Khmnw the second of the Cosmic Theology. 34min and 40 seconds has elapsed from the first moment the temperature of the universe has dropped considerably from the billions to 300million degrees the observable universe is now manifest Atoms, molecules, suns, planets, solar system, galaxies, quasar etc.. for those who give up their divine estate for 3.8million year old apes and derive there essence from it cont.
I was not fashioned in the womb, I was not bound together in the egg. I was not conceived, but my father Atum spat me outtogether with my sister Tefnut The bnbn of Ra was that from which Atum came to be as Heh (chaos), Nun, (the watery abyss), Kek (darkness), Tenem (gloom—substituted for Amun in this verse). The universe has now only been in existence for 14 seconds, one proton and one neutron now marry to form the atomic nuclei, hydrogen and helium are now going steady HaHa!,
O you eight chaos gods, keepers of the chambers of the sky, whom Shu made from the efflux of his limbs, who bound together the ladder of AtumI am Shu, whom Atum created, from whom Ra came to be.
O you Great Pesdjet, Ennead, which is on On, namely Atum, Shu, Tefnut, Geb, Nut, Osiris, Isis, Set, and Nephthys; O children of Atum, extend his heart to his child in your name of Nine Bows. Let him be turned back from you toward Atum.... lets now time lapse to 10-37 seconds you know what lets time lapse further to establish matter 10-1 seconds now have elapsed this will now coincide with the children of matter the temperature is now 30 billiondegrees the particles of the ATOM appear ,cont.
the gods had not yet been born, and death had not yet come into being," lets go deeper, ...O Atum-Kheprer, you were high on the height, you rose up as the bnbn-stone in the Mansion of the bn-bird in On, you spat out Shu, you spit out Tefnut, and you set your arms about them as the arms of a ka-symbol, that your essence might be in them.. when the first moment occurred t (time)= 0 in physics this means nothing existed at the time t=0 which comparative to the Heliopolitan Theogony
In physics everything can be calculated from 10-43 onwards, energy and time etc. but we must first deal with the creation out of nothing because the birth record of man is not in the dirt but in the cosmic soup the stellar regions, out of nothing moment "0" this moment when time and matter were non-existent, lets weave through 3 theologies of the Nile Valley to make Man, Pyramid text "1466"(Per Ntr),...the sky had not yet coming into being, the earth had not yet come into being, continued,
Mr Holipsism- My first objective was to provide SCIENTIFIC sources to end once and for all the 3.8 million hominid monkey women theory with verifiable scientific sources of today in which I did. Once I took your legs from under you, the only optional scientific theory that supports Intelligent Design and validates the origin story of the Kemetic Mystery System ONLY, but only after i eat this organic cereal I'll give you all the evidence you need, and by the way Lucy is a evolutionist theory.
HeruKing....I'm still going back to sift through his verbiage to see if somewhere hidden underneath it lies the answer to the question I posed to him earlier today. BRB
KnowledgeBlack2012, Nice catch my Brother and your understanding of my subtle comment speaks volumes of your adept nature. These Neo Seti types are predictable and show little to know understanding of the knowledge they profess, they utilize dated scientific theories and mix it with ultra revisionist history. Build and Destroy!!!
Heruking-Here we go again another self righteous, self absorbed, Neo Kemetic, hit and run Seti fanboy you automatons are on the verge of being exposed get your pompous heads out the sand, you mummies kill me with comments like "mumbo jumbo" and better yet "illusion of authenticity" n@#$a please 'futile ramblings" talk about sophisticated language. Pick a untruth in my statements and deconstruct simple and to the point. Peace
every single concept advanced by the theory of evolution (and amended thereafter) is imaginary and it is not supported by the scientifically established facts of microbiology, fossils, and mathematical probability concepts. Darwin was wrong. 4
...The theory of evolution may be the worst mistake made in science. 5
THE supreme master DR .malachi z. york has offered the most accurate explanation on evolution building from the records left by our ancestors the egiptians and sumerians in a profound book call 'the holy tablet s the ptahites being the original personification of creative forces who grew the universes
I asked you to provide EVIDENCE & a DIRECT SOURCE from the place you claim man (US) originated from, since you dispute it began at the foot of the Nile in Ethiopia. Instead what I got was a diatribe countering a point I never made (Evolution). But I'm curious...are you saying that Lucy was a WHITE WOMAN? That is extremely interesting and I await your response.
Let me ask you brothers a question which none of you have tried to answer because it would reveal the spook beliefs you have. WHO CREATED OUR STARS AND PLANETS? SINCE YOU BELIEVE THE BLACKMAN IS GOD!!! I would love to hear your explanation HeruKing! Since you all pop that shit that the blackman is GOD, then what is your proof that he is God? If he didnt create that which is on and off our planet then what are you basing that belief on, the pyramids? Tell me what makes us GOD???
God is a metaphor for existence itself. God is not a being. A being is finite. God (existence) is infinite. Existence had no beginning and will have no ending. It is the ALPHA and the OMEGA. Hue-mans are social beings and exist in societies. Is it no wonder why God would be PERSONIFIED for them? So, God is to existence what a map is to the territory. So asking who created the universe and everything in it is like asking how did existence create existence. Does that sound spooky?
When the term, "The Black Man is God," is used, what is being said is the Black man is the physical manifestion of existence itself. You can call that existence a myriad of things (reality, universe, etc.) but when GOD (existence) choose to manifest into the physical realm it manifested as a BLACK MAN or BLACK WOMAN. Which is why the term The Black Woman is God doesn't offend me either.
If God is not man then how can the Blackman be the physical manifestation of god himself? How can you compare something that by it's own definition does not exist? Therefore you are a product of the same religious doggma that you accuse WizzerEl of. You cant show or prove your god either! The reality is that there is no other reality besides this reality. The cipher consists of people, places, and things., and once you get outside of that your dealing with non reality!!
The lessons teach us that mathamatics is Islam and Islam is mathamatics. With that being said our whole understanding of God and creation is within the math that governs everything in our universe, because everything exists by laws(math) of nature! Man is the Supreme being because he is the only one who can do the Math!! So when we look at our universe we are looking at the SUPREME MATHAMATICS that govern us all. They didnt create themselves, but yet they have all been made to serve you.
Therefore everything does have a beginning because the laws(Math) of nature manifests this in all creations. So you can no longer call yourself a god as far as i'm concerned because you dont even believe your god. That in itself is the base of the Christian belief because they all believe in some formless spirit that governs their complete existance. So your waiting on jesus just like them. Remember, WizzerEls proof shines in the sky night and day, and it exists only by the MATH!!
Come on brothas and sistas, the whiteman in his little 6,000 years on this earth has reached flight into space. The blackman has been here according to you brothas history for at least 200,000 years. How can we claim to be gods and we cant even get out of our own atmosphere? But yet the whiteman has done it in only 6,000 years time!! We have found model gliders in tombs and depictions on walls but no actual proof of us reaching the heavens, but yet were gods over them? Get the fuck out of here!!
What makes it opposite is the fact that your saying that a formless spirit designed this universe but yet everything can be broken down essentially into laws(math). God is the Blackman and, he is INFINITE! HOW? THROUGH HIS PENIS!! When one passes another is rising up because he too is from that same PERFECT BLACKNESS CALLED MELANIN!!(Pineal). He has been here since this planets beginning, has he not?? Check out Farrakhans "Who Is GOD" on here for a more detailed explanation.
God stands for Knowledge, Wisdom, Understanding(people, places, things). everything around us can be taken back to a beginning origin because it exists by the same LAWS(math)!!!
"How can you compare something that by it's own definition does not exist?"
I copied & pasted that so that maybe you can re-read what you typed and see how much it doesn't make any sense. Where did you see me type that God (existence) doesn't exist? LOL
Then you claim to be against what I'm saying and then repeat it with different words:
"The reality is that there is no other reality besides this reality."
In other words existence cannot exist outside of itself. Thank you.
i said that because you made the statement that "God is not a being" i was just pointing out that by definition a spirit or ghost is basically a "Mystery" meaning unknown, so God is definitley not a mystery right?? So again, we have to deal with the law(math) of the cipher which is people, places, and things! Outside of that is by definition a "Mystery". So God is surely a man like you and me but the difference is that he is a SUPREME BEING" with a SUPREME KNOWLEDGE, WISDOM, and UNDERSTANDING.
A supreme being cannot be the Alph and the Omega because a being is FINITE and has limits. If God is man does that mean there is a big gigantic dick laid out across the universe? Is that why they call it the milky way? LOL
Come on family, now you know how i feel about them brotha!Lol. For real though, i was just using that as an example of how they have made good with the time they were given here, and if their small brains can do what they have done in a short period of time then you gotta know that the blackman has done that and then some family!! That's why we have to throw all of their timelines on man and history in the garbage. I cant believe you came at me like that family!Lol. you got me famLol.
...after all, it is not the duty of science to defend the theory of evolution, and stick by it to the bitter end -- no matter what illogical and unsupported conclusions it offers... if in the process of impartial scientific logic, they find that creation by outside superintelligence is the solution to our quandary, then let's cut the umbilical cord that tied us down to Darwin for such a long time. It is choking us and holding us back. 3
...In the final analysis, objective scientific logic has to prevail -- no matter what the final result is - no matter how many time-honored idols have to be discarded in the process. 2
In a certain sense, the debate transcends the confrontation between evolutionists and creationists. We now have a debate within the scientific community itself; it is a confrontation between scientific objectivity and ingrained prejudice - between logic and emotion - between fact and fiction. 1
I. L. Cohen is a mathematician, researcher and author -- a member of the New York Academy of Sciences and officer of the Archaeological Institute of America. In his book, Darwin was Wrong -- A Study in Probabilities, Cohen writes:
Even the popular press is catching on. This is from an article in Newsweek magazine:
The missing link between man and apes, whose absence has comforted religious fundamentalists since the days of Darwin, is merely the most glamorous of a whole hierarchy of phantom creatures The more scientists have searched for the transitional forms that lie between species, the more they have been frustrated. 5
N. Heribert Nilsson, a famous botanist, evolutionist and professor at Lund University in Sweden, continues:
My attempts to demonstrate evolution by an experiment carried on for more than 40 years have completely failed The fossil material is now so complete that it has been possible to construct new classes, and the lack of transitional series cannot be explained as being due to scarcity of material. The deficiencies are real, they will never be filled. 4
David B. Kitts. PhD (Zoology) is Head Curator of the Department of Geology at the Stoval Museum. In an evolutionary trade journal, he wrote:
Despite the bright promise that paleontology provides a means of "seeing" evolution, it has presented some nasty difficulties for evolutionists, the most notorious of which is the presence of "gaps" in the fossil record. Evolution requires intermediate forms between species and paleontology does not provide them 3
the whole concept of evolution collapses[9] [because] the pattern of diversity at a molecular level conforms to a highly ordered hierarchic system. Each class at a molecular level is unique, isolated, and unlinked by intermediates. [10]
Michael Denton, Evolution: A Theory in Crisis. Bethesda, Maryland: Adler and Adler, 1986, 368 pgs. Denton is a molecular biologist and medical doctor states,
In all comparisons, the hypotheses of general evolution are false. Denton writes:
The really significant finding that comes to light from comparing the proteins' amino acid sequences is that it is impossible to arrange them in any sort of evolutionary series. [8] cont.
I will provide overwhelming evidence to prove my case but before the flood please know this, what you consider Nile Valley Civilization is being destroyed by mentioning Australopithecus in the same breath with Kemet, how can you reason the illustrious Greater Ennead and Lesser Ennead the Pantheon of the Gods of Kemet to be the cornerstone of Kemetic life to Darwinism or the Materialist theory of no god, Ptah on the potters wheel can not exist beside the evolutionist theory of Lucy.
"...how can you reason the illustrious Greater Ennead and Lesser Ennead the Pantheon of the Gods of Kemet to be the cornerstone of Kemetic life to Darwinism or the Materialist theory of no god, Ptah on the potters wheel can not exist beside the evolutionist theory of Lucy"
LOL that's what our people FAIL to understand. You cant be a Evolutionist but yet claim that you & your Ancestors are Gods! True evolution is the MIND. This is why you have to know the Khemetic Mystery not just the History.
Mr Holipsism- You have been clear very clear, but also very wrong in your half baked Hominid hypothesis, this so-called Lucy is all smoke and mirrors and hides a very hidden agenda of the evolutionist the cross species theory is a faust hybridization or genetic mutation only occurs in one species, to widen this bottleneck would require to a have complete sequence or gradation to HomoSapien Sapien without interruption from so called Lucy to Us in the fossil record, till this day there is NONE.
Once again...you attack the so-called "smoke and mirrors" yet provide no EVIDENCE or DIRECT SOURCES of what you believe in. Why is this? I'm not asking you to debate what has already been presented. I'm asking you to show and prove where mankind originated from with EVIDENCE and a DIRECT SOURCE. Any time you are ready, please let me know because I think it should painfully obvious now that I'm not a Dr. York follower. I need something more than rhetoric. That's just me.
Mr Holipsism- The theory of evolution propagated by Darwin has been eclipse by quantum theory which proves the existence of intelligent design there is only one superscription and Divine Man is his only blueprint. For over 119yrs of evolutionit still has not been proven through the fossil record the link between Ape and Man. Be careful of the theories you attach yourself to t may be your ruin.
Once again...rhetoric. I asked you for EVIDENCE & a direct source from the place you say mankind originated from. I didn't ask for a theory. I didn't ask for hyperbole and I didn't ask for doublespeak. If what you are saying is true, and I'm not saying I will not accept truth if it is presented, I will change my point of view and adapt to the new information. Now...once again...where is it? Thank you in advance.
Mr Holipsism-I asked a simple question, since the origin of man coming from the foot of Nile is a theory or myth where did man originate from? Also, and this is just me, can I can some artifacts, texts, documents, bones, etc. something that can be used as EVIDENCE & PROOF and a direct SOURCE?
Your only sole source of documentation is derived from a Hominid found in Ethiopia, Australopithecus is derived from a Latin and greek source meaning "southern ape"
I don't know what other way to ask this. I think I'm being extremely clear, but I will try again...
If life did not originate at the foot of the Nile, where did it originate and where is your documented evidence and your direct sources of information. Thank you in advance. ONE
Where did you descend from and where is your PROOF? Australopithecus is the name given by the people who found it. Give it another name if you wish. This doesn't answer the question I asked you. If it is so easy to dispute and trivialize and dismiss Nile Valley Civilization then give proof and documentation and direct sources from the place we should be glorifying. You can't do that?
factions untilactions until the Visigoths were able to wrestle power from the Moors with the help of the Arabs betr the Visigoths were able to wrestle power from the Moors with the help of the Arabs betrayed at high noon the last stand at Grenada would sound the death bell for the Moors here lies the the true origin of the slave trade, the inquisitions of Torquemada upon the Moors would find its first candidates for their caravels amongst the POW's. Seti's oversimplification of this era
orthodoxy of Baghdad but this allegiance between Havilah and the Moors was short lived and the schism widened through the centuries until it culminated into warring
which spawned the Proto Canaanite script this in turn creating the Phoenician script or phonetic script in which your reading RIGHT NOW. Noble Drew Ali was a mastermind to see the uninterrupted lineage from Canaan to post Seti 2009 Phonics is fundaMENTAL, but let me continue. This temporary allegiance between Havilah(Arabia) and the Moors(Phoenicians, Carthagenians, Numidians) whatever your taste to expedite a expedition into Andalusia to establish a competing caliphate to rival the Mutalazili
Al Misri was a indigenous Kemetian and persecuted endlessly by the orthodoxy of his time, Baghdad held the seat of the caliphate and relentlessly attacked the sons of Havilah(Arabia) who were displaced and sought the allegiance of those in Merita(Africa) in particular the remnants of the Phoenicians in North Merita the navigators of the pharoahs who are the genectic and linguistic heir apparent to Kemet, it was through language succesion the Kemetic language evolution the proto siniatic bridge
sage who instituted the gnostic(advanced transcedent knowledge) thought within Islam, lets go deeper lets ride on curves instead of angles shall we. Why was Dhul Nun overlooked even in the works of Dr. Clark it 's amazing because not only was he the Patriarch of the Sufi order and clearly not of turkish origin, Seti will mislead you to believe that the Sufi's were Turks another one his errors. Dhul Nun was known to know the secrets of the Medu Neter and transmitted it through Sufic lore. cont
Seti's so-called crusade against everything Islamic must be taken with a grain of salt and reviewed from a unbiased historian perspective, his vehement oratorical delivery is admirable but only to those who's comfort is emotionalism with a dash of regurgitated feel good scientific facts, but let us review Seti's hatred for the Sufi way of retreat. Dhul Nun Al Misri the Grand Master Sufi known for his jet black skin circa 796-859 the epithet Al Misri(The Kemetian) was to describe this cont.
The task of cracking the atom was much more difficult than making the bomb, Dr.Ben, Ivan Sertima, Cheikh Anta Diop, George James, Dr.Clark etc.. jobs were made less difficult after the splitting of the atoms, they were able to fill the neurons with light more easily, but the monumental task seems to be lost in the minds of these new zealots who uphold a triumvirate to the dismay of those who view the true masters of old within the same light, be wary of those only come to fragment the family.
since 1928 when it was infiltrated by the Freemasons who fragmented the temple under Kirkman Bey, this is why NDA prophesies that it will be the 3rd or 4th generation who will carry out his wisdom and sit the old Moors to the back. Imagine dealing with a people up from slavery, Elijah Muhammad stated that he had to shock the minds of his early followers with calling the whiteman the devil to remove the shackles of the slave mind these men were master psychologist, they paved the way
instead of hate, where in these words should a assault from Seti be warranted and the sheer disrespect shown at the so-called debate of NDA who's resume of students who are in our day in time revered as our prophets par excellence(Fard Muhammad, Elijah Muhammad, Malcolm X, Clarence X, Farrahkhan, Malachi York, Khalid Muhammad, etc...) these Honored men drank from the same spring of ZamZam. There is no unified consensus amongst Moors or universal doctrine in 2009, the temple hasnt been united-
In the immortal words of my Nana "IT'S LIKE THE POT TRYING TO CALL THE KETTLE BLACK". Those who are able to view my words BEWARE OF THERE ERASURE, HOPEFULLY Bro. Holipsism will allow me to be proving wrong in my assertions and to know I havent even scratched the surface. I come in Peace but with with sword unsheathed to restore the good name of one of my Master Teachers Sheik Sharif Abdul Ali(Noble Drew Ali) a man who came only to uplift fallen humanity and to teach our self and kind to love
Now to go a little deeper into Seti's veiled rhetoric you must uncover the source of his CRAFT OF AMEN RA or in layman terms THE SOLOMONIC INITIATE RITES performed on the causeway to the temple of Karnak where a select group of men don theTehuti aluminium foil collar and are raised to a living perpendicular with the lions grip performed by the pseudo kheri heb(priest) Ashra Kwesi himself, these are the same ruffians who stormed the temple of Noble Drew Ali, these brother are Masonic in origin-
record is inconclusive, just as there is not a transition fossil record showing the evolution from a fish to a dinosaur it just does not exist, cross species evolution is science fiction. There is 200million sq miles of surface on the earth with 57million sq miles of land, 15million sq miles of arable land, until we are able to cover this surmountable goal of digging every square mile of this earth for the search of our origins, I wont be hedging my bets with a 3ft monkey bitch calling her mama
Manetho, a priest serving under the Grecian Ptolemaic patriarchal rulership of Kemet chronicled the histories of Kemet based upon dynasties of male kingship. Seti framework is still derived from Manetho's king list which was evident in his
the nation of kemet, will take over black-america////
kemetkush 1 year ago
seti kick the moors ass. the moors info come for turks.the sun flower medal seal his case.show are brother there info is wrong.brother need to stop dealing with other people believe.we need to has are one unite god/ra. we know the sun protect us from the craker.seti brough the heat.alim bey info is all craker info.we know that we can,t us any info for craker they only tell us lies.seti is the general...
and he has the proof.if you are black and you don,t know white/ jews/arab inslave us.
alvin1ism 1 year ago
I'm not Moorish nor deal with their science but within the "conscious community" their views are very much relevant as it pertains to this post modern society that we dwell in. All these branches of the "conscious community" : Pan Africanist, Hebrew Israelite, black nationalist, Nuwabians, 5 per-centers etc. etc. to me personally their views and rhetoric hold no weight in to days society and to days present condition of blacks, the moor philosophy is much more rational and logical
MalcomAP 1 year ago
They found the artifacts embedded into 2 billion year old rock in Africa.
Interdiffusion 2 years ago
It's all good, at the end of the day, Europeans are the enemy.
Peace
justfarr1030 2 years ago 6
@justfarr1030
Why would you call Europeans the enemy? do you mean white people in general?
dmarcellus 1 year ago
@dmarcellus Yes.
justfarr1030 1 year ago
@justfarr1030
I respectfully disagree with you sir. I grew up in Virginia, didnt have much. Many of my friends who i've remained in contact with my entire life are black. I have insight too experience that has given me an opinion i'd like to share with you if you dont mind.
dmarcellus 1 year ago
@dmarcellus Sure, I'm all ears.
justfarr1030 1 year ago
Money & power corrupt people, not color. Whites have had acces to money and power and therefore are more succeptable to evil. I have been poor, wealthy & am now poor again, humbled. On my rise up the corporate ladder, i noticed a homoginization of people - black and white, they become more alike the higher up the ladder you go. The blacks have no contact with thier "culture" anymore than the rich whites... we are "trailer trash".. and the color that devides us is GREEN, not white, not black.
dmarcellus 1 year ago
I have black friends i consider family, my sister Jasmine was adopted she is black. They are all part of my life experience, they share life with me and have helped define my existence. I assure you , not all whites are "the enemy". Just my thoughts. thank you.
dmarcellus 1 year ago
*sighs* LOL.
I told you already about the footprints. I see your biased and you cannot learn anything with that state of mind so I'll waste no more energy here. That's fine if you want to lock yourself inside a box. You rep Africa, I'll rep the WHOLE PLANET. Furthermore, the internet has all the answers you require. It is a weapon in the freedom struggle, use it.
Peace.
justfarr1030 2 years ago
It's not a hoax, but believe what you like. I've thoroughly researched it.
justfarr1030 2 years ago
I'm also not here to do YOUR research. Just type in 'ancient African remains' or 'Negroid skeletons miilions of years old' if you want to see it for yourself.
justfarr1030 2 years ago
Sorry, we just have to agree to disagree. That was a step pyramid if I ever seen one (built by our ancestors of course).
As for your question, google how scientists found fossilized human footprints on top of dinosaur prints (no hoax). We know dinosaurs have been here billions of years. We also know Europeans have been here for a couple of mins, bout 6000-10,000 years (give or take). Knowing this, isn't it safe to say those prints were of the Asiatic 'Black' man?
2+2=4
justfarr1030 2 years ago
All you have to do is google it.
Peace
justfarr1030 2 years ago
No brother...those are pyramids lol, no denying it. And of course I don't trust most European sources and I overstand the psuedoscience (I know Egyptians pyramids are older). But my point is that most of our bros & sis think Egypt (Africa) is the end all tell all of our history when it is not. Which is older is not the point and to be honest, shouldn't even matter. The point is that we're the original inhabitants of EVERY continent.
justfarr1030 2 years ago
what do u think of ali boombaye bey lecture?
muptahu24 2 years ago
ISLAM,
My personal opinion is that most of the Black Nationalists and people such as the author of this video didn't listen to Brother Alim Bey because everything he said was clear cut and dry. He never denied a connection to slavery, Africa or Kemet or anything else you claim. His point of view is that Our history goes back 3-4 Billions of years ago and that it's more to it than JUST AFRICA. That is where the divide is. Most so called Black people don't realize our history goes back before so.
justfarr1030 2 years ago
...you can't just claim Africa when that is only PART of our history. You all need to understand Moors (aka Blacks/Negroes/Afro/African Americans/Native Americans/Indians/Latino/Hispanics etc) were NOT regional but GLOBAL people so stop thinking narrow minded about only Africa and the Nile river, that TO ME is bogus.
My question to any so called "Black" nationalist is: Why would you only want to claim one part of your history and not the whole package?
As far as Brother Sara Suten Seti, I must
justfarr1030 2 years ago
...say that he has a good heart and I know he cares about our people but he didn't prove anything to me. He kept trying to connect Moors with the Turks, but Brother Alim Bey proved we go back billions of years before the Turks even existed so how can you say our movement comes from them? Seti said Nobel Drew Ali was working for the Turks and was not a friend of Marcus Garvey. ANYONE who does PROPER research knows this is COMICALLY FALSE. Seti said Noble Drew Ali plagiarized the Circle 7 Koran...
justfarr1030 2 years ago
...from the Aquarian Gospel of Jesus Christ, Alim Bey proved that false as it says in the Circle 7, he prepared it by going to the hall of Acoustic records which is done by astral planing. Seti mocked the idea of Astral projection off as spookism even though this is something our ancestors were doing Eons ago and is apart of OUR ANCIENT SCIENCE. Alim Bey provided evidence of our ancient writing, architecture, skeletons etc on EVERY continent while Seti focuses on Africa. Who won again?
Hotep
justfarr1030 2 years ago
How is it comically false when he read the documentation to in the debate that Marcus Garvey had NOTHING TO DO with Drew Ali? Are you just having selective hearing? Also, did my miss the part where he read exact duplicates from both the Circle 7 and The Aquarian Gospel of Jesus Christ and Unto Thee I grant? The man didn't just make a charge he backed it up. Now refute it or accept it as reality but don't dismiss it like it doesn't exist. That is what is comical, Family.
MrHolipsism 2 years ago
@justfarr1030 - i ain't coming at u or the brother u had disagreement for, but both ya need to peep, the aquarian gospel of jesus i called the aquarian gospel of jesus, the circle 7 Called the circle seven, keyword is called that what they called my nigga, but what the text repesent kemitic universal idea of coming to the god that they are., CONTINUE TO EVOLVE NAGA
KingSilent1 1 year ago
"My question to any so called "Black" nationalist is: Why would you only want to claim one part of your history and not the whole package?"
My question to the Moorish National is do you know the difference between Acknowledging something and CLAIMING IT. What land is the richest land on earth and the crown Jewel for any nation who could control it? The place currently known as AFRICA or Lemuria? Get back to me.
MrHolipsism 2 years ago
ISLAM
Once again you ONLY want to acknowledge and claim Africa. As a Moor, I acknowledge and claim THE WORLD because my ancestors were ALL OVER THE WORLD, not just in Africa. My ancestors were simultaneously on all continents/land masses for billions of years before any Caucasoid or Mongoloid existed. The WORLD is mine by birth rite, NOT JUST ONE CONTINENT/landmass etc. At one time the world was called Asia (hence the term "Asiatic" which is US). This is what our people need to overstand so...
justfarr1030 2 years ago
...that we can close this debate once and for all. I acknowledge Africa as A PART of our history but it is most certainly NOT the beginning. Did you know they found pyramids underwater of the coast of Japan that are dated older than any of the pyramids in Africa? Also check on pyramids and our people in the Americas (mainly South America) and see how much older and how far they date back. It is not secret that Marcus Garvey was a HUGE influence on Noble Drew Ali and his Moorish Nationalist...
justfarr1030 2 years ago
...movement, no denying that. But what is Seti's point? Noble Drew Ali never said that Garvey had anything to do with him. Noble Drew Ali respected, admired and received much inspiration from Garvey and tried to model his movement after Garvey and the UNIA...doesn't everyone have SOMEONE they look up to?
Once again, if you would actually READ the Aquarian Gospel of Jesus Christ and the Circle 7 Koran you would see CLEAR AND MAJOR DISTINCT DIFFERENCES in the two. For example, in the Aquarian...
justfarr1030 2 years ago
...Gospel, Levi describes Jesus as being pale skin, blond hair, blue eyes etc. If you actually READ the Circle 7, you WILL NOT find that description in there...but let's backtrack.
Seti and yourself seem to be confused about this man Levi. First of all the information that he put into his Aquarian Gospel is NOT original info. This information was already known and could be found in India, Egypt AND Palestine but it had been suppressed which is why Noble Drew Ali PREPARED this information for US
justfarr1030 2 years ago
It was PREPARED so that our people here in the Americas could understand this information. Noble Drew Ali NEVER said he was the author, he said he PREPARED this information. How could Noble Drew Ali OR Levi for that matter be the author of this information when it was already available? (It had just been suppressed by secret societies and locked up etc) So Seti's claim about plagiarism is obsurd.
See, Seti's accusations can be easily refuted with UNBIASED PROPER RESEARCH.
PEACE
justfarr1030 2 years ago
Thanks fro this.
maxinatlanta 2 years ago
I'm glad this is coming to the forefront. My only wish is that Sara Suten Seti would sit down with those who are TRUE Moors and not with those who are claiming to be Moors because someone told them they are.
Those of us who are Moors trace ourselves back to TaMaRe, which is on the Land called Afrika today. It's time out for playing games. Our people need to know the TRUTH. I have sent a message to Seti and I got no response. I know its hard to reply to 10,00 emails and messages.
Son Of Djehuty
Ashamed2BHere 2 years ago
So are you an afrikan??
youngcatlaflare 2 years ago
EM Hotep ,,it,s the same old story divide and conquer and it,s been going on thru out his-story,seti is a soldier and a element of the truth, he came correct and had the backing of Dr. ben and many other librators, who know the truth about the MOORS, they exposed them for what they are and I hope seti open the eyes of the mass of uneducated Moors and they unite with their other blk kemet brothers and become one. ASE.
KEVINBMORE 2 years ago 3
@KEVINBMORE Some shit will never fkn happen! Fuck cowardly wishes for traitors to throw down their legions with parasites! I now understand the way of Papa Doc and ethnic cleansing Africans, that know if you want to maintain your PRIDE n' TRIBE and further it's growth. You must deaden threats of treason flat out or they will use your greatest enemy as a fkn shield! I have gotten real and realized houseniggaz rather die proud housniggaz, then actual men! There will be no unity with traitors!
CaneCorsoGod 1 year ago
I agree with u the moors have a problem with being a african and being apart of anything connected to african,I truely think they think being apart of africa is a bad thing or it has no connection to them.which is said it,s like the step kid looking every where to be accepted accept his true family..And if u look at the great debate when they said african they was looking like who me? I,m not african when ur dna has africa all in it ur image is african ur features too.sad bro. very sad.kno self
KEVINBMORE 2 years ago 3
MOORR COME OUT OF AFRIKA ITS ILLOGICAL to deny roots when we say we are a name we are practisicng tribalism the moors name has no root in our languages its a accepted name but they are the students of egipt who contain some half-wisdom of the ancestors when invaded they became arabiczied
KHENSU30 2 years ago
ladies and gentlemen....
sponjirhutz has left the building
MrHolipsism 2 years ago
what do u think seti is afraid of with dr ali baba the black man schola, ghetto and non ghetto?
how do u feel about seti now seeing that he punked out the debate
muptahu24 2 years ago
#1. Nothing. This is a debate not mortal combat. What does he have to be afraid of? Ali Muhammad going, "FINISH HIM!" and ripping his head and spine out of his body? Calm down family.
#2. Nice Lawyer question! "Where did you go after you robbed his car?" Brilliant use of a false presupposition. I'm impressed! Seriously though, call me crazy, but...I actually listened to why he canceled the debate and I don't blame him for doing so.
FYI - Everything happens for a reason and I'm cool with that
MrHolipsism 2 years ago
Come on family! I would rather see brothers on the corner building on the knowledge of self any day versus a brother out there wit a pack!! Are you listening to what the hell you saying? Yeah, we disagree and rant and rave because that's just the passion we have for what we believe in. But in the end were just planting the seed to bring up a mighty and well informed future generation that WILL put it all together and establish peace on this earth from here to eternity!!
4Me2Yall 2 years ago
You know what I find interesting...the inability for people to lay down their swords when it comes to their brothas and sistas and have a sit down and come to a common denominator. It's embarrassing that we can't even use the Mafia as an example. They can sit down with each other even after they've murdered each others children. We can't sit down until we agree on what our name or the name of God should be. Go figure.
MrHolipsism 2 years ago
My brother, I still haven't heard anything that would advance our consciousnes. What exactly is the point?
ozzdubar 2 years ago
The mind is you! And it means nothing without this form to express itself. I'm not gonna get into this mind body debate with you because a thought is just a thought without some type of vehicle to transmitt itself, so what your trying to argue is irrelevant!! As far as atoms go show me what is in this world that is not of the atom?
4Me2Yall 2 years ago
how can we get ,buy the video
1msbracey 2 years ago
and for your knowledge seti never once claim that we were not the original moors, no 1 has, his argument is totally different from that.
livblu 2 years ago
livblu u r right, its not about who wopn, if we allcome out winners, so if u all ready to claim your moorish ational status, as indigenous then they will stop treating u all as dred scott negros.
jus dred scottish rites-u get it
muptahu24 2 years ago
moorish national status? setis argument was to do with who the moors associated themselves with i.e noble drew ali, basically in his opinon how could you associate yourself with a bunch of cracker loving miseducated fools, and disassociate yourselves from your true afrikan identity, and then have the guts to say that the nile valley civilization was not the first, seti won because he came with better info, and made alim denounce his brothers claiming that the afrikan holocaust was a myth.
livblu 2 years ago
i didnt get that impression from seeing the entire debate
muptahu24 2 years ago
WE ARGUING OVER WHAT LANGAUGE WE WERE CALL AS IF WE WERE NOT any of them moors have derive from latin moren french muurs who came out of kemet they diverted from the ancient ways of kemet held degrees about our ancient science we identify with the most potent part of our story thats kemet everyone arguing about fragmmented parts of our story chose which part u identify with simple
KHENSU30 2 years ago
i id w/ all. i accept that which was b4 khemet. ta nehisi ta sati ,muu, salaam. there never was a time that we were not.
muptahu24 2 years ago
Islam Mo!! It's a real shame that alot of our brothas and sistas refuse to accept the window of opportunity that's staring them right in the face. Through struggle comes wisdom. We will not be able to save evrybody, simply because they choose not to be saved. Continue to study law and knowledge of self. The government could care less about black people, but when you say I'm a Moor, ears perk up and eyebrows are raised. They already know the deal. WE are the ones the who need to learn..LTPFJ.
chelle315 2 years ago
true indeed, we all could learn to love and not hate
muptahu24 2 years ago
b4 the moore name was bey or ali was he a johnson or smith?
ramzeze3 2 years ago
the supreme mathematics has been renewed by our pharaoh pa nazdir aferater ti atum-re what was given by malcolm x the insrciber was half-truth as we now know how supreme mathematics fir in our story in the bk DR MZY WROTE entitled creation & science of the pyramids and humans were created from and the bombshell 'holy tablets' no egiptologist rabi imam godbody came close to the jewels in those scrolls
KHENSU30 2 years ago
..... and less organized with the passage of time. Everything in the heavens and the earth are submissive to the Original Man and Woman and man partakes in the creatve faculties he has acknowledge in his or hers creator we bonded '14' and it has become inseparable from "6". Man is the viceregent of the starry mansion and the terrestial abode, here nature has wrap herself fully, enraptured with us for a time. Peace!!!
WizzerEl 2 years ago
At the exact moment two helium atoms resonated in union, a beryllium atom appeared in the 0.000000000000001 second needed to produce carbon. Here is the undeniable evidence, but for every beginning there is a end, The second law of Thermodynamics is a binding law,
Entropy-Albert Einstein said that it is the premier law of all science, An abandoned car deteriorates and falls apart. Everything in the universe is subject to entropy: the law says that, left to itself, everything becomes less stable
WizzerEl 2 years ago
The alchemy labs of the universe, within the womb of the red giant, 6 PROTONS, 6 NEUTRONS, 6 ELECTRONS, the grand alchemist designates 6 is the number of man the diamond tiara of Allah the 6th elemental CARBON the building block of life, stellar nucleosynthesis the nuclei is changed at 10 million degrees celsius. Mans physical shell is arranged in stars exact in measure, resonance and double resonance the key of life and you still look in the sand for your true self.
WizzerEl 2 years ago
... that are reflected to our eye. So, how much of the data related to matter is conveyed to us by this information? We have no proof that the original forms of the matters existing outside are fully reflected to us.
When He decides on something, He just says to it, 'Be!' and it is. (Surat al-Baqarah: 117) Noble Quran
WizzerEl 2 years ago
...So, to what extent do we perceive the matter we see, hear or smell? It is literally impossible for us to see the matter we believe to exist and see. HOW DO YOU SEE, images are formulated in the brain by photons coming from the sun, or another light source, which absorbs a certain portion of the incoming light, and gives out the rest, which therefore is re-emitted from the matter and strikes our eyes.That is to say that the matter we see only consists of the information carried by photons cont
WizzerEl 2 years ago
...chemical reaction with that object, it would be impossible for a human being or any other living being to survive for even a second. The living being would immediately react with the substance on which you stepped, sat or leaned and be transformed to something else. This is supreme wisdom, we live in a world that is 99.95% composed of a void filled with atoms in true essence it is all energy. We actually never touch the things we say, "we touch and we hold"......cont
WizzerEl 2 years ago
...of your keyboard you feel a sense of touch depending on the intensity of the repulsion. Previously I manifested the structure of atoms they can come as close as the diameter of an atom, the only atoms that can come close this close are the ones that react with each other. Therefore even the atoms of the same substance can not ever touch each other, then its even more impossible to touch that keyboard in your hand. If you can can come as close to the object in hand you would be in a ....cont
WizzerEl 2 years ago
What you imagine around you that you perceive is matter is merely energy your computer, your body, the mouse in hand, your house, the earth, you may ask how can I reason this contradiction so let this knowledge be born, the collision of the electrons in the orbital shells of atoms with photons, and the atoms attracting and repelling each other. You think your touching the keyboard THATS TRYING TO TYPE A REBUTTAL RIGHT NOW, the truth is the atoms of your hands are repellinf the atoms... cont.
WizzerEl 2 years ago
How can existence have NO BEING, when the very definition of existence is BEING, Maybe you meant PREEXISTING but reviewing the entire comment in full context and your oversimplification of the MATTER with a psuedo philosophy without a DIRECT SOURCE but demand it of others is a typical materialist prose, lets get down to business,
WizzerEl 2 years ago
Existence-1. The fact or state of existing; being.
2. The fact or state of continued being; life: our brief existence on Earth.
3.
a. All that exists: sang the beauty of all existence.
b. A thing that exists; an entity.
4. A mode or manner of existing:
WizzerEl 2 years ago
"Existence-1. The fact or state of existing; being."
Exactly. So how can you refute existence? You are just strengthening my point.
MrHolipsism 2 years ago
You said "GOD IS NOT A BEING" which means existing, right? So if the definition of a spirit-- which you say god is because you say he is not man-- means a mystery(unknown) then how is that existing when you cant even prove that a spirit exists by definition? The definition of a spirit is UNKNOWN!!! Which means we dont know WHAT THE FUCK IT IS!!! No one can say with truth that they ever seen one but will turn right around and say that God is a spirit that created our universe!
4Me2Yall 2 years ago
listening is so important to understanding what someone is saying. This statement by you shows you aren't listening to me:
"No one can say with truth that they ever seen one but will turn right around and say that God is a spirit that created our universe!"
When did I ever say that? I made no separation between the Universe, Reality or Existence. To me everything is everything. What I said was that Existence cannot exist outside of itself. Please refute that statement.
MrHolipsism 2 years ago
by the way, the statement, "GOD IS NOT A BEING" does not mean existing. It means that a being is finite and how can a finite being be the ALPHA & the OMEGA? Also, what you fail to realize it that you are only interpreting the God concept within the construct of human understanding. This means you use human terms and attach human characteristics to a concept outside of human understanding. Nothing wrong with that but something extremely wrong when there is no awareness of yourself doing it.
MrHolipsism 2 years ago
just saw the debate, alim banged him. alim case was that we r the origional people here and was here b4 columbus. seti agreed that makes alim the victor. seti also said that we were called moors. alim banged him
muptahu24 2 years ago
nice to see your still blind, its not about who won as mrholipsism said, although seti did come more correct with his info denoucing your noble drew ali, now if you denounce the leader you denounce the followers also.
livblu 2 years ago
tats assn9 logic... after seti stated with his own mouth we were moors. and we were here 1st. noble alim bey didnt go to debate noble drew ali
or the 101's. u people r not children. 101's r 4 those under 7. then its 40 yrs in the wilderness
of usa[eye/mind] to relearn what moses72 made u all 4get-WHO U R AND THE 4FATHERS R. its good to go back 2 ta mare, who was your people in 1492? where did your great grand daddy stand? we were here 1st.
SO SETI ADMITTED TO WHAT ALIM BEY WAS PRESENTING,
muptahu24 2 years ago
Mr Holipsism you are STRAIGHT UP COMEDY to these Europeans by denying your nationality!! 1) Prove to me that BLACK is a nationality by LAW. 2) The 1st law of nature is Self Preservation. 3) How can you make yourself immune to these European Laws here in the Western Hemisphere, if you don't know who you are (A MOOR) ? 4) You can't use emotions or false history to base your knowledge upon 5) Seti is right and exact about Khemetic knowledge....but that will not save you in the so-called U.S.A.!!
keldronfarron 2 years ago
keldronfarron...first and foremost thank you for the manner and spirit of your reply. I can always count on brothas and sistas to offer a counter to an argument or point they disagree with respect. #1. When did anyone ever say Black was a nationality? Africa is but...you don't want that. #2. The Self was formed out of the collective and The Self spent the majority of its early years DEPENDENT on family and community.
MrHolipsism 2 years ago
#3. Where is the MOORISH land base? Are we going to Atlantis to establish a socio-economic and political infrastructure or are we going to hostile takeover the U.S. of A.? #4. Exactly, which is why I'm sticking to a LAND with a HISTORY and a CULTURE and not attempting to return to something buried under the sea. I'm the one who is practical and you are the one engaging in fantasy. #5. At least we agree on Seti being right and exact, but...Seti shouldn't be alone. We should have his back. RIGHT?
MrHolipsism 2 years ago
I'm trying my best to inform and empower brothers like yourself and Seti with KNOWLEDGE. You seem to be an intelligent brother, but unfortunately you are a WARD of the STATE...you are missing 2 components by International Law (Nationality and Creed) which automatically makes you 3/5 of a man, subject to their jurisdiction!! A Moor that is well diversed in LAW understands that Earth is 3/4 water, it is IMPOSSIBLE not to deal with this European Maritine Law!! We beat them up with their own laws!!
keldronfarron 2 years ago
Sun, we are not against each other in any way shape or form. What we need is IDEOLOGICAL CLARITY based on authentic information and direct sources using chronology so we can place everything in its proper perspective. It is not about one thing or the other. We need to think systematically and we need to incorporate our differences into the design of the system. Any system that fails to do so is DOOMED. So, guess what? You can be a Moor or a Hebrew Israelite and still be down. ONE LOVE
MrHolipsism 2 years ago
a spirit is a energy field that contains the soul call rooakh in kemet it was call ba and when we say the blackman is god we are talking about what the greeks call us theos god is a german term u give 6 ether forces power used their term calling us a title that doesnt even have root in our language our ancestors were call neteru or nezdir(dieties) the dieties have rank the most high re who is in ALL
KHENSU30 2 years ago
If so then what difference does it make? Were an walking energy field ourselves. It cannot manifest itself without the human form. If we say it's a field of energy it still leads you to a material source, "ATOMS" !!! Which is the beginning of us ALL!!!
4Me2Yall 2 years ago
Mr. Holipsism-God is a metaphor for existence itself. God is not a being. A being is finite. God (existence) is infinite. Existence had no beginning and will have no ending.
Your comment is your undoing, a oxymoron. Let's see why,
WizzerEl 2 years ago
After i manifest this last discourse I'm done, your weak opinions me nothing to me, just baubles of the day, like bubbles they tend to break in flight.
WizzerEl 2 years ago
That would be rhetoric, Sun. EVIDENCE & DIRECT SOURCES are called FACTS.
MrHolipsism 2 years ago
What I find odd is that amidst the countless volumes of verbiage you've typed in this thread, you still haven't provided any EVIDENCE or a DIRECT SOURCE of your claims that Life did NOT start at the foot of the Nile in Ethiopia. This isn't about my weak opinions. This is about you failing to prove your point. Peace
MrHolipsism 2 years ago
Mr. Holipsism- Its obvious you have know understanding of the universe from your rhetorical statement "Existence had no beginning and will have no ending". It is the ALPHA and the OMEGA" that materialist dogma that your spitting is going to be shutdown, provide the evidence of of a everlasting universe when i show and prove i want you to bow down to the truth, the numbers i gave you prior in my comments are empirical second gradation from the first moment supreme mathematics, Peace
WizzerEl 2 years ago
Sun, are you asking me to prove existence?
ROTFLMBAO!
MrHolipsism 2 years ago
4me2yall-Peace God, he cant tell what makes a God i just taught him through his Theology of the Nile with divine science who to make a God precise to the second, these mummies still think their born of a monkey.
WizzerEl 2 years ago
You did teach me a lot. You taught me that a lot of my people think rhetoric, hyperbole and doublespeak are EVIDENCE & a DIRECT SOURCE. Thank you!
MrHolipsism 2 years ago
WORD.
QueenMamaIfe 2 years ago
The supreme intelligence isnt happenstance, its creativity can not be circumscribed. Although the mass of the nucleus is one ten billionth the size of the Atom(Atum), the mass of the nucleus is 99.95% the mass of the Atum, how can something occupy all the given mass but at the same time occupying NO SPACE. And you dare ask what's my source, if the ancient Kemetians, Dogon etc. pointed to the stellar regions the dogstar for one our origins who are you and I to disagree.
WizzerEl 2 years ago
....beside zero and it keep producing or making this "one" ten fold more powerful than it is, just by adding zero's."What are you trying to drive us to Muhammad?" I'm saying that the moreof you- who knew nothing and was like zero- are added to the one God, you become something. I'm only now making figures of us and from the figures, we teach and you can understand. Are you still clinging to that APE? . The blueprint of our creation is in SELF generative by gradation from "0",
WizzerEl 2 years ago
....who was self created. He didnt come from the creation of another. He's the creator Himself-The First-remember that. He made Himself in a circle so that the wisdom of His self-creation could keep going to give knowledge, wisdom ans understanding to you and me. I want us to remember that.
Out of darkness came One and then He took the Unknown and put it in front of Himself. For what? To produce the Known. That's why the zero goes in front. To make more zeros, He puts more up there cont.
WizzerEl 2 years ago
of ATUM(ATOMS), the power is hidden in the nucleus, the radius of the atom(atum) is 10-8(0.00000001)cm, the radius of the nucleus is 10-12(0.000000000001)cm. the volume of the nucleus is equal to 10 billionth of the volume of the ATOM(ATUM),
LETS SEE WHAT A LITTLE MAN WITH A 4TH GRADE EDUCATION SAYS, page69 The Theology of Time, Elijah states "Elijah why did you make the zero round?" Because that's the way the universe was before the the creation of man. Out of it we came by One cont.
WizzerEl 2 years ago
Ptahs Ennead is before him as teeth and lips. They are the semen and the hands of Atum. For the Ennead of Atum came into being through his semen and his fingers. But the Ennead is the teeth and lips in this mouth which pronounced the name of every thing, from which Shu and Tefnut came forth, and which gave birth to the Ennead. Air, water, mountains, animals, plants, your body, the chair on which you sit, in short, everything you see, touch, and feel, from the heaviest to the lightest is formed
WizzerEl 2 years ago
There took shape in the heart and on the tongue the form of Atum. The very great one is Ptah, who gave life to all the gods and their kas through this heart and through this tongue in which Horus had taken shape as Ptah, in which Thoth had taken shape as Ptah.
WizzerEl 2 years ago
Memphite Theology-The gods who came into being in Ptah:
Ptah-on-the-great-throne_____,
Ptah-Nun, the father who made Atum.
Ptah-Naunet, the mother who bore Atum.
Ptah-the-Great is heart and tongue of the Nine Gods.The gods who came into being in Ptah:
Ptah-on-the-great-throne_____,
Ptah-Nun, the father who made Atum.
Ptah-Naunet, the mother who bore Atum.
Ptah-the-Great is heart and tongue of the Nine Gods.
WizzerEl 2 years ago
and at the same time try to uphold the Divine mysteries of Ta Neter without understanding the contradictions, I will provide Quantum Theory to drive home the point, and if you thought astral projection was individual spookiness, but it is apparent that the latest theories of our time 2009 validate the parodox of both the physical and the metaphysical, particle and wave existing at the same time but let me not get to far ahead of myself. cont.
WizzerEl 2 years ago
The preceding passage was from the Coffin Text which originated in the Nome of Khmnw the second of the Cosmic Theology. 34min and 40 seconds has elapsed from the first moment the temperature of the universe has dropped considerably from the billions to 300million degrees the observable universe is now manifest Atoms, molecules, suns, planets, solar system, galaxies, quasar etc.. for those who give up their divine estate for 3.8million year old apes and derive there essence from it cont.
WizzerEl 2 years ago
I was not fashioned in the womb, I was not bound together in the egg. I was not conceived, but my father Atum spat me outtogether with my sister Tefnut The bnbn of Ra was that from which Atum came to be as Heh (chaos), Nun, (the watery abyss), Kek (darkness), Tenem (gloom—substituted for Amun in this verse). The universe has now only been in existence for 14 seconds, one proton and one neutron now marry to form the atomic nuclei, hydrogen and helium are now going steady HaHa!,
WizzerEl 2 years ago
O you eight chaos gods, keepers of the chambers of the sky, whom Shu made from the efflux of his limbs, who bound together the ladder of AtumI am Shu, whom Atum created, from whom Ra came to be.
WizzerEl 2 years ago
O you Great Pesdjet, Ennead, which is on On, namely Atum, Shu, Tefnut, Geb, Nut, Osiris, Isis, Set, and Nephthys; O children of Atum, extend his heart to his child in your name of Nine Bows. Let him be turned back from you toward Atum.... lets now time lapse to 10-37 seconds you know what lets time lapse further to establish matter 10-1 seconds now have elapsed this will now coincide with the children of matter the temperature is now 30 billiondegrees the particles of the ATOM appear ,cont.
WizzerEl 2 years ago
the gods had not yet been born, and death had not yet come into being," lets go deeper, ...O Atum-Kheprer, you were high on the height, you rose up as the bnbn-stone in the Mansion of the bn-bird in On, you spat out Shu, you spit out Tefnut, and you set your arms about them as the arms of a ka-symbol, that your essence might be in them.. when the first moment occurred t (time)= 0 in physics this means nothing existed at the time t=0 which comparative to the Heliopolitan Theogony
WizzerEl 2 years ago
In physics everything can be calculated from 10-43 onwards, energy and time etc. but we must first deal with the creation out of nothing because the birth record of man is not in the dirt but in the cosmic soup the stellar regions, out of nothing moment "0" this moment when time and matter were non-existent, lets weave through 3 theologies of the Nile Valley to make Man, Pyramid text "1466"(Per Ntr),...the sky had not yet coming into being, the earth had not yet come into being, continued,
WizzerEl 2 years ago
And for the record Lucy is not a White, Black, Red or Yellow Human Women, Lucy is a female APE
WizzerEl 2 years ago
I bipedal ape? I thought you weren't an evolutionist? LOL
MrHolipsism 2 years ago
Mr Holipsism- My first objective was to provide SCIENTIFIC sources to end once and for all the 3.8 million hominid monkey women theory with verifiable scientific sources of today in which I did. Once I took your legs from under you, the only optional scientific theory that supports Intelligent Design and validates the origin story of the Kemetic Mystery System ONLY, but only after i eat this organic cereal I'll give you all the evidence you need, and by the way Lucy is a evolutionist theory.
WizzerEl 2 years ago
HeruKing....I'm still going back to sift through his verbiage to see if somewhere hidden underneath it lies the answer to the question I posed to him earlier today. BRB
MrHolipsism 2 years ago
Nope. Nothing there. Damn
MrHolipsism 2 years ago
KnowledgeBlack2012, Nice catch my Brother and your understanding of my subtle comment speaks volumes of your adept nature. These Neo Seti types are predictable and show little to know understanding of the knowledge they profess, they utilize dated scientific theories and mix it with ultra revisionist history. Build and Destroy!!!
WizzerEl 2 years ago
Heruking-Here we go again another self righteous, self absorbed, Neo Kemetic, hit and run Seti fanboy you automatons are on the verge of being exposed get your pompous heads out the sand, you mummies kill me with comments like "mumbo jumbo" and better yet "illusion of authenticity" n@#$a please 'futile ramblings" talk about sophisticated language. Pick a untruth in my statements and deconstruct simple and to the point. Peace
WizzerEl 2 years ago
every single concept advanced by the theory of evolution (and amended thereafter) is imaginary and it is not supported by the scientifically established facts of microbiology, fossils, and mathematical probability concepts. Darwin was wrong. 4
...The theory of evolution may be the worst mistake made in science. 5
Holipsism shall I close the flood gates?
WizzerEl 2 years ago
THE supreme master DR .malachi z. york has offered the most accurate explanation on evolution building from the records left by our ancestors the egiptians and sumerians in a profound book call 'the holy tablet s the ptahites being the original personification of creative forces who grew the universes
KHENSU30 2 years ago
Flood gates? LOL
I asked you to provide EVIDENCE & a DIRECT SOURCE from the place you claim man (US) originated from, since you dispute it began at the foot of the Nile in Ethiopia. Instead what I got was a diatribe countering a point I never made (Evolution). But I'm curious...are you saying that Lucy was a WHITE WOMAN? That is extremely interesting and I await your response.
MrHolipsism 2 years ago
Let me ask you brothers a question which none of you have tried to answer because it would reveal the spook beliefs you have. WHO CREATED OUR STARS AND PLANETS? SINCE YOU BELIEVE THE BLACKMAN IS GOD!!! I would love to hear your explanation HeruKing! Since you all pop that shit that the blackman is GOD, then what is your proof that he is God? If he didnt create that which is on and off our planet then what are you basing that belief on, the pyramids? Tell me what makes us GOD???
4Me2Yall 2 years ago
God is a metaphor for existence itself. God is not a being. A being is finite. God (existence) is infinite. Existence had no beginning and will have no ending. It is the ALPHA and the OMEGA. Hue-mans are social beings and exist in societies. Is it no wonder why God would be PERSONIFIED for them? So, God is to existence what a map is to the territory. So asking who created the universe and everything in it is like asking how did existence create existence. Does that sound spooky?
MrHolipsism 2 years ago
When the term, "The Black Man is God," is used, what is being said is the Black man is the physical manifestion of existence itself. You can call that existence a myriad of things (reality, universe, etc.) but when GOD (existence) choose to manifest into the physical realm it manifested as a BLACK MAN or BLACK WOMAN. Which is why the term The Black Woman is God doesn't offend me either.
MrHolipsism 2 years ago
If God is not man then how can the Blackman be the physical manifestation of god himself? How can you compare something that by it's own definition does not exist? Therefore you are a product of the same religious doggma that you accuse WizzerEl of. You cant show or prove your god either! The reality is that there is no other reality besides this reality. The cipher consists of people, places, and things., and once you get outside of that your dealing with non reality!!
4Me2Yall 2 years ago
The lessons teach us that mathamatics is Islam and Islam is mathamatics. With that being said our whole understanding of God and creation is within the math that governs everything in our universe, because everything exists by laws(math) of nature! Man is the Supreme being because he is the only one who can do the Math!! So when we look at our universe we are looking at the SUPREME MATHAMATICS that govern us all. They didnt create themselves, but yet they have all been made to serve you.
4Me2Yall 2 years ago
Therefore everything does have a beginning because the laws(Math) of nature manifests this in all creations. So you can no longer call yourself a god as far as i'm concerned because you dont even believe your god. That in itself is the base of the Christian belief because they all believe in some formless spirit that governs their complete existance. So your waiting on jesus just like them. Remember, WizzerEls proof shines in the sky night and day, and it exists only by the MATH!!
4Me2Yall 2 years ago
Come on brothas and sistas, the whiteman in his little 6,000 years on this earth has reached flight into space. The blackman has been here according to you brothas history for at least 200,000 years. How can we claim to be gods and we cant even get out of our own atmosphere? But yet the whiteman has done it in only 6,000 years time!! We have found model gliders in tombs and depictions on walls but no actual proof of us reaching the heavens, but yet were gods over them? Get the fuck out of here!!
4Me2Yall 2 years ago
HUH???!!!
When did this turn into a white man appreciation thread? Damn, Sun. What's up with that?
MrHolipsism 2 years ago
what is your definition of GOD? I think this is where the communication problem is coming from. Holla back. ONE
MrHolipsism 2 years ago
How does anything you just said refute or even run opposite to what I've stated?
MrHolipsism 2 years ago
What makes it opposite is the fact that your saying that a formless spirit designed this universe but yet everything can be broken down essentially into laws(math). God is the Blackman and, he is INFINITE! HOW? THROUGH HIS PENIS!! When one passes another is rising up because he too is from that same PERFECT BLACKNESS CALLED MELANIN!!(Pineal). He has been here since this planets beginning, has he not?? Check out Farrakhans "Who Is GOD" on here for a more detailed explanation.
4Me2Yall 2 years ago
God stands for Knowledge, Wisdom, Understanding(people, places, things). everything around us can be taken back to a beginning origin because it exists by the same LAWS(math)!!!
4Me2Yall 2 years ago
"How can you compare something that by it's own definition does not exist?"
I copied & pasted that so that maybe you can re-read what you typed and see how much it doesn't make any sense. Where did you see me type that God (existence) doesn't exist? LOL
Then you claim to be against what I'm saying and then repeat it with different words:
"The reality is that there is no other reality besides this reality."
In other words existence cannot exist outside of itself. Thank you.
MrHolipsism 2 years ago
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4Me2Yall 2 years ago
i said that because you made the statement that "God is not a being" i was just pointing out that by definition a spirit or ghost is basically a "Mystery" meaning unknown, so God is definitley not a mystery right?? So again, we have to deal with the law(math) of the cipher which is people, places, and things! Outside of that is by definition a "Mystery". So God is surely a man like you and me but the difference is that he is a SUPREME BEING" with a SUPREME KNOWLEDGE, WISDOM, and UNDERSTANDING.
4Me2Yall 2 years ago
A supreme being cannot be the Alph and the Omega because a being is FINITE and has limits. If God is man does that mean there is a big gigantic dick laid out across the universe? Is that why they call it the milky way? LOL
MrHolipsism 2 years ago
Come on family, now you know how i feel about them brotha!Lol. For real though, i was just using that as an example of how they have made good with the time they were given here, and if their small brains can do what they have done in a short period of time then you gotta know that the blackman has done that and then some family!! That's why we have to throw all of their timelines on man and history in the garbage. I cant believe you came at me like that family!Lol. you got me famLol.
4Me2Yall 2 years ago
Oh ok...I'm just saying. LOL
MrHolipsism 2 years ago
...after all, it is not the duty of science to defend the theory of evolution, and stick by it to the bitter end -- no matter what illogical and unsupported conclusions it offers... if in the process of impartial scientific logic, they find that creation by outside superintelligence is the solution to our quandary, then let's cut the umbilical cord that tied us down to Darwin for such a long time. It is choking us and holding us back. 3
WizzerEl 2 years ago
...In the final analysis, objective scientific logic has to prevail -- no matter what the final result is - no matter how many time-honored idols have to be discarded in the process. 2
WizzerEl 2 years ago
In a certain sense, the debate transcends the confrontation between evolutionists and creationists. We now have a debate within the scientific community itself; it is a confrontation between scientific objectivity and ingrained prejudice - between logic and emotion - between fact and fiction. 1
WizzerEl 2 years ago
I. L. Cohen is a mathematician, researcher and author -- a member of the New York Academy of Sciences and officer of the Archaeological Institute of America. In his book, Darwin was Wrong -- A Study in Probabilities, Cohen writes:
WizzerEl 2 years ago
Even the popular press is catching on. This is from an article in Newsweek magazine:
The missing link between man and apes, whose absence has comforted religious fundamentalists since the days of Darwin, is merely the most glamorous of a whole hierarchy of phantom creatures The more scientists have searched for the transitional forms that lie between species, the more they have been frustrated. 5
WizzerEl 2 years ago
N. Heribert Nilsson, a famous botanist, evolutionist and professor at Lund University in Sweden, continues:
My attempts to demonstrate evolution by an experiment carried on for more than 40 years have completely failed The fossil material is now so complete that it has been possible to construct new classes, and the lack of transitional series cannot be explained as being due to scarcity of material. The deficiencies are real, they will never be filled. 4
WizzerEl 2 years ago
David B. Kitts. PhD (Zoology) is Head Curator of the Department of Geology at the Stoval Museum. In an evolutionary trade journal, he wrote:
Despite the bright promise that paleontology provides a means of "seeing" evolution, it has presented some nasty difficulties for evolutionists, the most notorious of which is the presence of "gaps" in the fossil record. Evolution requires intermediate forms between species and paleontology does not provide them 3
WizzerEl 2 years ago
and he continues,
The upshot is that
the whole concept of evolution collapses[9] [because] the pattern of diversity at a molecular level conforms to a highly ordered hierarchic system. Each class at a molecular level is unique, isolated, and unlinked by intermediates. [10]
WizzerEl 2 years ago
Michael Denton, Evolution: A Theory in Crisis. Bethesda, Maryland: Adler and Adler, 1986, 368 pgs. Denton is a molecular biologist and medical doctor states,
In all comparisons, the hypotheses of general evolution are false. Denton writes:
The really significant finding that comes to light from comparing the proteins' amino acid sequences is that it is impossible to arrange them in any sort of evolutionary series. [8] cont.
WizzerEl 2 years ago
I will provide overwhelming evidence to prove my case but before the flood please know this, what you consider Nile Valley Civilization is being destroyed by mentioning Australopithecus in the same breath with Kemet, how can you reason the illustrious Greater Ennead and Lesser Ennead the Pantheon of the Gods of Kemet to be the cornerstone of Kemetic life to Darwinism or the Materialist theory of no god, Ptah on the potters wheel can not exist beside the evolutionist theory of Lucy.
WizzerEl 2 years ago
"...how can you reason the illustrious Greater Ennead and Lesser Ennead the Pantheon of the Gods of Kemet to be the cornerstone of Kemetic life to Darwinism or the Materialist theory of no god, Ptah on the potters wheel can not exist beside the evolutionist theory of Lucy"
LOL that's what our people FAIL to understand. You cant be a Evolutionist but yet claim that you & your Ancestors are Gods! True evolution is the MIND. This is why you have to know the Khemetic Mystery not just the History.
knowledgeblack2012 2 years ago
Mr Holipsism- You have been clear very clear, but also very wrong in your half baked Hominid hypothesis, this so-called Lucy is all smoke and mirrors and hides a very hidden agenda of the evolutionist the cross species theory is a faust hybridization or genetic mutation only occurs in one species, to widen this bottleneck would require to a have complete sequence or gradation to HomoSapien Sapien without interruption from so called Lucy to Us in the fossil record, till this day there is NONE.
WizzerEl 2 years ago
Once again...you attack the so-called "smoke and mirrors" yet provide no EVIDENCE or DIRECT SOURCES of what you believe in. Why is this? I'm not asking you to debate what has already been presented. I'm asking you to show and prove where mankind originated from with EVIDENCE and a DIRECT SOURCE. Any time you are ready, please let me know because I think it should painfully obvious now that I'm not a Dr. York follower. I need something more than rhetoric. That's just me.
MrHolipsism 2 years ago
Mr Holipsism- The theory of evolution propagated by Darwin has been eclipse by quantum theory which proves the existence of intelligent design there is only one superscription and Divine Man is his only blueprint. For over 119yrs of evolutionit still has not been proven through the fossil record the link between Ape and Man. Be careful of the theories you attach yourself to t may be your ruin.
WizzerEl 2 years ago
Once again...rhetoric. I asked you for EVIDENCE & a direct source from the place you say mankind originated from. I didn't ask for a theory. I didn't ask for hyperbole and I didn't ask for doublespeak. If what you are saying is true, and I'm not saying I will not accept truth if it is presented, I will change my point of view and adapt to the new information. Now...once again...where is it? Thank you in advance.
MrHolipsism 2 years ago
Mr Holipsism-I asked a simple question, since the origin of man coming from the foot of Nile is a theory or myth where did man originate from? Also, and this is just me, can I can some artifacts, texts, documents, bones, etc. something that can be used as EVIDENCE & PROOF and a direct SOURCE?
Your only sole source of documentation is derived from a Hominid found in Ethiopia, Australopithecus is derived from a Latin and greek source meaning "southern ape"
WizzerEl 2 years ago
I don't know what other way to ask this. I think I'm being extremely clear, but I will try again...
If life did not originate at the foot of the Nile, where did it originate and where is your documented evidence and your direct sources of information. Thank you in advance. ONE
MrHolipsism 2 years ago
Mr. Holipsism- Please define Hominid,and for the record do you also see yourself as a descendant from a GREAT APE as your Brother Seti?
WizzerEl 2 years ago
Where did you descend from and where is your PROOF? Australopithecus is the name given by the people who found it. Give it another name if you wish. This doesn't answer the question I asked you. If it is so easy to dispute and trivialize and dismiss Nile Valley Civilization then give proof and documentation and direct sources from the place we should be glorifying. You can't do that?
MrHolipsism 2 years ago
is just if I may quote my Brother Wesley Muhammad "Ghetto Scholarship".
WizzerEl 2 years ago
factions untilactions until the Visigoths were able to wrestle power from the Moors with the help of the Arabs betr the Visigoths were able to wrestle power from the Moors with the help of the Arabs betrayed at high noon the last stand at Grenada would sound the death bell for the Moors here lies the the true origin of the slave trade, the inquisitions of Torquemada upon the Moors would find its first candidates for their caravels amongst the POW's. Seti's oversimplification of this era
WizzerEl 2 years ago
orthodoxy of Baghdad but this allegiance between Havilah and the Moors was short lived and the schism widened through the centuries until it culminated into warring
WizzerEl 2 years ago
which spawned the Proto Canaanite script this in turn creating the Phoenician script or phonetic script in which your reading RIGHT NOW. Noble Drew Ali was a mastermind to see the uninterrupted lineage from Canaan to post Seti 2009 Phonics is fundaMENTAL, but let me continue. This temporary allegiance between Havilah(Arabia) and the Moors(Phoenicians, Carthagenians, Numidians) whatever your taste to expedite a expedition into Andalusia to establish a competing caliphate to rival the Mutalazili
WizzerEl 2 years ago
Al Misri was a indigenous Kemetian and persecuted endlessly by the orthodoxy of his time, Baghdad held the seat of the caliphate and relentlessly attacked the sons of Havilah(Arabia) who were displaced and sought the allegiance of those in Merita(Africa) in particular the remnants of the Phoenicians in North Merita the navigators of the pharoahs who are the genectic and linguistic heir apparent to Kemet, it was through language succesion the Kemetic language evolution the proto siniatic bridge
WizzerEl 2 years ago
sage who instituted the gnostic(advanced transcedent knowledge) thought within Islam, lets go deeper lets ride on curves instead of angles shall we. Why was Dhul Nun overlooked even in the works of Dr. Clark it 's amazing because not only was he the Patriarch of the Sufi order and clearly not of turkish origin, Seti will mislead you to believe that the Sufi's were Turks another one his errors. Dhul Nun was known to know the secrets of the Medu Neter and transmitted it through Sufic lore. cont
WizzerEl 2 years ago
Seti's so-called crusade against everything Islamic must be taken with a grain of salt and reviewed from a unbiased historian perspective, his vehement oratorical delivery is admirable but only to those who's comfort is emotionalism with a dash of regurgitated feel good scientific facts, but let us review Seti's hatred for the Sufi way of retreat. Dhul Nun Al Misri the Grand Master Sufi known for his jet black skin circa 796-859 the epithet Al Misri(The Kemetian) was to describe this cont.
WizzerEl 2 years ago
The task of cracking the atom was much more difficult than making the bomb, Dr.Ben, Ivan Sertima, Cheikh Anta Diop, George James, Dr.Clark etc.. jobs were made less difficult after the splitting of the atoms, they were able to fill the neurons with light more easily, but the monumental task seems to be lost in the minds of these new zealots who uphold a triumvirate to the dismay of those who view the true masters of old within the same light, be wary of those only come to fragment the family.
WizzerEl 2 years ago
since 1928 when it was infiltrated by the Freemasons who fragmented the temple under Kirkman Bey, this is why NDA prophesies that it will be the 3rd or 4th generation who will carry out his wisdom and sit the old Moors to the back. Imagine dealing with a people up from slavery, Elijah Muhammad stated that he had to shock the minds of his early followers with calling the whiteman the devil to remove the shackles of the slave mind these men were master psychologist, they paved the way
WizzerEl 2 years ago
instead of hate, where in these words should a assault from Seti be warranted and the sheer disrespect shown at the so-called debate of NDA who's resume of students who are in our day in time revered as our prophets par excellence(Fard Muhammad, Elijah Muhammad, Malcolm X, Clarence X, Farrahkhan, Malachi York, Khalid Muhammad, etc...) these Honored men drank from the same spring of ZamZam. There is no unified consensus amongst Moors or universal doctrine in 2009, the temple hasnt been united-
WizzerEl 2 years ago
In the immortal words of my Nana "IT'S LIKE THE POT TRYING TO CALL THE KETTLE BLACK". Those who are able to view my words BEWARE OF THERE ERASURE, HOPEFULLY Bro. Holipsism will allow me to be proving wrong in my assertions and to know I havent even scratched the surface. I come in Peace but with with sword unsheathed to restore the good name of one of my Master Teachers Sheik Sharif Abdul Ali(Noble Drew Ali) a man who came only to uplift fallen humanity and to teach our self and kind to love
WizzerEl 2 years ago
Now to go a little deeper into Seti's veiled rhetoric you must uncover the source of his CRAFT OF AMEN RA or in layman terms THE SOLOMONIC INITIATE RITES performed on the causeway to the temple of Karnak where a select group of men don theTehuti aluminium foil collar and are raised to a living perpendicular with the lions grip performed by the pseudo kheri heb(priest) Ashra Kwesi himself, these are the same ruffians who stormed the temple of Noble Drew Ali, these brother are Masonic in origin-
WizzerEl 2 years ago
record is inconclusive, just as there is not a transition fossil record showing the evolution from a fish to a dinosaur it just does not exist, cross species evolution is science fiction. There is 200million sq miles of surface on the earth with 57million sq miles of land, 15million sq miles of arable land, until we are able to cover this surmountable goal of digging every square mile of this earth for the search of our origins, I wont be hedging my bets with a 3ft monkey bitch calling her mama
WizzerEl 2 years ago
Manetho, a priest serving under the Grecian Ptolemaic patriarchal rulership of Kemet chronicled the histories of Kemet based upon dynasties of male kingship. Seti framework is still derived from Manetho's king list which was evident in his