Gordon Chang: "The Coming Collapse of China" - FoxNews 110119

[damienhooi]

Gordon Chang seems to have a lot of personal issues and hatred of his Chinese heritage especially caused by his troubled relationship with his Chinese dad, is really pathetic. Perhaps Gordon should go see a shrink to reconcile with his heritage and rejection of Chinese culture. His pure condemnation, assumptions and bias against China are truly reflected in his comments...but his speech is greatly supported and embraced by many sinophobic and conservative Americans who want to get rid of China.

[bigfatdick5000]

Gordan Chang is not accurate, selling gimmicks , he's just trying to sell his books, he past predicted China was gonna collapse by 2006 , by then what happened ? China has become richer and stronger survivor and even a world pilot about to bail Europe even out of all these global economic crisis.

If you believe in him you're retarded, he doesn't know shit, he's just hyping up to sell his books.

[swetomboy]

I HOPE TRULY HE IS RIGHT CHINA IS THE DEVIL FREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE­EEEEEEEEE TIBET

[happyharv1]

I do not think China is going to collapase, rather the economics of the country will be shaken up a whole lot and so many aspects of the Chinese economy will have to adjust.

I predict the citizens will riot and vent thier anger in ways that are not seen in the west.

[sfsd911]

Studies by the Peterson Institute for International Economics say a 20 percent appreciation of China's yuan would reduce the U.S. trade deficit by up to $120 billion and create a half-million U.S. jobs. The more liberal Economic Policy Institute estimates that a 28.5 percent appreciation would create more than 2 million jobs. Obama should not tax us and waste money on failed public projects. Obama needs to get tougher with China by passing the China Currency Manipulation Bill. China=cheater.

[sfsd911]

.We were a superpower in the 70's, 80's and 90's when China was still dirt poor. We didn't need them then, we don't need them now, we won't need them in the future. Since when did we allow this communist country to disrupt our lives? We need someone tough like Ronald Reagan. If we cut all ties with China, Chinese economy will go bankrupt because the US market is 90% of Chinese exports. China could not win us militarily (Korea, Taiwan), but they will ruin us economically if we let them.

[sfsd911]

1. China = cheater: joined WTO but does not follow the rules, manipulates currency & subsidizes export companies to keep its products competitive with cheating practices. China doesn't let foreign companies do business unless they use local labor and must partner up with a local or govt. companies. 2. China = Thief: steals US commercial and military secrets, makes fake products. 3. China = robber: steals islands in the South China Sea from Vietnam, the Philippines & Japan.

[sfsd911]

FucK China. China = pirates of South China Sea & Yellow Sea, pirates of technologies. China stole commercial & military technologies from US & Russia, copied everything illegally regardless of patents. 100% of software used in China is pirated. That said a lot about lawless China and how crooked its people are. China is using propagandas to beef up its international status, but everyone knows China ain't shit. 90% of China's economy relies on the US market. China has no pride.

[sfsd911]

Obama is too stupid to deal with cunning Chinese. Chinese Communist Party is a bunch of lunatics. Why do we let them interrupt our way of life? We need someone tough like Ronald Reagan to deal with the communists.

[imjsutthatguy]

Umm its 2012 now how long has this guy been predicting a bust -__- why should i listen to him now as i type hes talking about something i lost interest about a minute in As a wise man once said "To all haters(Gordon Chang) No matter how hard the wind blows(thats u Gordon u blow) A mountain(China) will never bow down to it" lol Truth is u can take his anti china and the pro China and you get yourself the truth only a fool will listin to 1 person I only hate this guy casue he forgets hes yellow to

[yannfann]

I think the idiots are the people who listen & believe this crap-talker. Fox's are crap and should be banned.

[sfsd911]

@yannfann Gordon Chang is Chinese American. He speaks the truth and the truth hurts. Those of you who disagree with him must have been brainwashed by the Chinese Communist Party to believe in utopia. The CCP and its state-run CCTV are trying so hard to spread propagandas to elevate China's international status, but China isn't all that in reality. Not every Chinese can afford a flushing toilet, some still dig a hole in the rural area. See this on youtube: "Is China the next superpower?"

[gobipill]

@sfsd911 China is still poor compared to America's standard of living, but it has done something no other nation has ever done: it's gone from absolute widespread poverty to something "decent", pulling 200m people (or 66% of the US pop) out of hell and into the middle class. From a dead, backward nation, one of the poorest in the world, Deng Xiaoping made something close to magic happen, and I applaud that. Imagine, for example, if Africa became like Europe. That's unthinkable.

[gobipill]

@sfsd911 Continued; so whenever I hear people pointing at China and saying "oh it doesn't match the US standard of living, therefore the government must be inefficient", I see immense ignorance. Point me to another nation in the world that, over the course of some four decades, has gone from being one of the poorest global nations to a great contender on the world stage. People are expecting far, far too much. Give China more time to develop, and it will, but it is not a miracle worker.

[horselee]

Gordan makes money from talking about China and North Korea, saying negative things about the country. However, other people in China and North Korea also make money from talking about USA. So think carefully before you believe his comments or anybody else, because they are just doing it for a living.

[briansuck]

If Gordon is not happy of China supporting N Korea, then he need to know that China is not happy that US supports Japan, S Korea, and Taiwan.

[briansuck]

China simply replaced Japan's economy domination in US. Selling US currency and stop importing stuffs will just open opportunity for Japan to be dominance once again in US market. 

[purelego]

Easier said than done, that goes the same for every thing, Gordon thinks he's way is going to work! well it won't, if it can be done than Obama and many previouse president are all idiots. but are they? Probably not all these us presidents are all bigger smart ass than gordon.

[MrXl88]

Fox news is rubbish. It is the shame of journalism.

[MrXl88]

How many times has this asshole said China is going bust... He is shameless to appear again and again.

[GORGEOUSGEORGE1100]

this classic chee bye is a chinese turncoat...fuck you gordon Chaaannnngggg!

[twenlil]

@GORGEOUSGEORGE1100

I cannot agree more. He keeps forgetting that he is also a slant-eye too. 

[DarkprinX2500]

this man is an agent

RED CHINA FOREVER!!

[Soonerg2121]

@DarkprinX2500 Gordon Chang is an Undercover Agent? boy you watch to many spy film movies. All debt is universal and this economic crisis is Global you Xenophobe fool.

[dogmopsi]

this is the class of content foxnews should support

[walle1999]

This guy talks like as if american china trade is a one way street, us firms are no longer able to compete at all if they don't get a foot into the chinese market. And the US itself is responsible to destroying the currency but constant borrowing and printing raising concerns about the dollars dominance as the global reserve.

[TLshadow1997]

lol i guess he does not notice his own last name is chang

[allyoucouldhave]

He is a hybrid, he is an idiot, but he is just trying to sell his book.

[Esoparagon]

He's an idiot on the economics.

[littlechineseshrimp]

gordon chang or smith....anti china......fox bias news

[Wfiver1]

Gordon Chang is just being "Chinese". He's telling his fellow Americans what they want to hear. ie China is "paper tiger", "Chinese economy is dependent on the US", "Chinese bubble will burst" etc.etc. If he were to tell them the truth, he would not be invited to show is face on national media again.

[gaoasiadragon]

@Wfiver1 but the current Chinese economy IS dependent on the west as well...Why do you think we are their largest creditor ? It's basically to protect the export sector

[NiclasTimle89]

the syste is slowly doing a self check out. =D

[mj23sendoh7]

Chang forgot his roots as a Chinese. a disgrace to the Chinese race.

[Chinahahahahahahaha]

@mj23sendoh7

Most Chinese who travel to the west don;t even want to be identified as Chinese!! I know many, many Chinamen who claim to be Japanese so that they get treated better!

[Chinahahahahahahaha]

@jia2001

Take it easy, chink! My friend sells penis enlargement pumps if you'd like to buy one.... His target demographic is Chinese people!

[mktchi]

Actually many Chinese believe Gordon Chang is the most effective undercover agent and a national hero to China who deserves a lot of credit. He is the man who "won ten golden years (2001-2011)" for China by keeping downplaying the potential of China so China never became the top threat to the US from American perspective. He needs a "one-ton"gold medal (Mao said that) from the Chinese government.

[Nyro888]

@mktchi Or maybe he's just another clown like Donald Trump. Look China bashing seems to be a popular theme on many American news networks, so someone like Gordon Chang is just catering the trend. The funny thing though is just because his last name is Chinese doesn't give credibility to anything he says on China. He kind of reminds me of the black KKK sympathiser in Dave Shappelle's skit.

[twenlil]

@mktchi

Wow I am truly enlightened by your comments. I have never thought of Gordon in this manner. It is indeed very insightful.

[mktchi]

@twenlil "All war is based on deception." -- Sun Tzu, The Art of War

[bigblondman1]

i dont think so. im not hearing that or getting any sense of that. from what i heard from him it sounds like he is criticizing china and warning the u.s. to get tough on china insteadof acquiescing to them. i dont understand your correllation of gordon chang downplaying or defending china at the expense of the u.s. is he a commie who defends china? it doesnt sound to me like hes' doing that. i think hes' wanting to see the u.s. get tougher with china. china is a bubble waiting to burst.

[gaoasiadragon]

@mktchi wtf are you doing? Do not reveal his secret plan ! ;)

[mathshang]

All we Chinese want to say "Thank You" to Mr. Chang, since he pointed out some very important or potential problems in China's economy and society. Some of them were not paid enough attention by China's leaders. I believe they should pay attention to these issues, otherwise, the "Coming Collapse" would be true.

[AntiDefm]

@mathshang I just love these sock puppets.

I've just read the comments today saying "I am Iranian, all we Iranians ...", "I am Egyptian, all we Egyptians ,,,"

C'mon, puppet, you should tell your puppet master that it doesn't work!

What a stupid retarded American. You should be first to be cut if they are serious about debt crisis, LOL!

[MrsVegascrush]

@Elbottoo:

Hey, listen closer! He never mentioned that he hates Chinese.

This report is about China. That dude hates Communism and NOT the Chinese people, all right! Please dont mix up.

[Lordofthenipplerings]

A self hating Chinese because his dad is Chinese and his mother is scottish. Complains about his childhood and his failed marriage. Good thing his book was a piece of crap and the CCP still continues on.

[MrSeekerofjustice]

As always, it is only a small minority that knows the truth about the situation! Well done, Gordon Chang!

[energyalt56]

golden Chang is a clown, been wrong for past 15 years, western promote China collapes propoganda for past 50 years. IMF report that China GDP already reached 11.2 trillion, only 3.5 tn short to american, will surpass U.S in 2015 or 16, NY economic forum report China will surpass USA in 2012

 Hard working ppl, good policy,focus on better life, infraustructure, made China stand out

China will dominate the 21th century & beyond, they already has 5,000 years history

[Chinahahahahahahaha]

@energyalt56

First of all, stop pulling facts outta your butt! China was overrun by the Mongols in the 1200s and was again colonised by the Japanese and England in the 20th century. To this day, China remains the only civilization to be colonized by both Asians and Europeans. Secondly, even if you take into account, the time that China existed prior to the Mongol invasion, China has only 3500 to 4000 years of history. And MOST importantly, China was NEVER the leading civilization at any point!

[walle1999]

@Chinahahahahahahaha You have no idea wtf you are talking about. Ignorance + Loud mouth = Makes you look like a retard

[Chinahahahahahahaha]

@walle1999

China was NEVER the leading civilization at any point! This is propaganda spoonfed to you by the communist party of china!

[walle1999]

@Chinahahahahahahaha So you are saying the communists conjured up 5000 years of chinese history?

[Chinahahahahahahaha]

@walle1999

I doubt that China existed that long.... And even if it did, it would be outrageously ludicrous to even suggest that it was anywhere close to being the leading civilization! LOL!! such utter nonsense!! absolute garbage!

[walle1999]

@Chinahahahahahahaha You don't have to doubt, orcale bones are dated to 2500+ BC in central China with ancient written records of a civilisation. Maybe you should do a little research and educate yourself before just denying the facts. But from your name, you are just some random hindu troll.

[Chinahahahahahahaha]

@walle1999

India's civilization is 10000 years old. Look for the following video on youtube:

" The story of India - amazing BBC documentary series part (1 of 7) "

"India conquered and dominated China culturally for 20 centuries without ever having to send a single soldier across her border"

- Hu Shih, former ambassador of China to the USA

[walle1999]

@Chinahahahahahahaha If you are so ignorant to believe that then go ahead. Let me ask you what significant inventions did India come up with during this "10,000" years as you claim? What signature items did they make in early world trade? How did Indian affect Chinese culture apart from Buddhism? To become a civilisation, there must have (just naming a few) Government, Settlement, Agriculture and economy. Having prehistoric nomads roaming the land is not civilisation.

[Chinahahahahahahaha]

@walle1999

SUCH UTTER NONSENSE!!! ABSOLUTE GARBAGE!!! IGNORANCE AT ITS WORST!! Here are a list of Indian inventions and discoveries: Zero, the number system, Algebra, trigonometry, calculus, the technique of performing surgeries, anesthesia, the art of navigation, the law of gravity and the fact the earth was round. Ancient sages from India were the first to calculate the circumference of the sun, moon, earth and other planets. Metaphysically, we always were and still are the world's best!

[Chinahahahahahahaha]

@walle1999

And also, Yoga, martial arts and Buddhism were taught to the Chinese by an Indian monk named Boddhidharma!

[walle1999]

@Chinahahahahahahaha You are just making yourself look stupid now.

[walle1999]

@Chinahahahahahahaha No one in the world actually acknowledges most of what you claim except for a handful of indian nationalists. pitiful

[Chinahahahahahahaha]

@walle1999

Dude.... stay on your damn island... What I have just told you is common knowledge in India and among historical circles! There are historical societies and groups all over western Europe and America who can confirm what I have told you! The quotes I have given you are from some of the greatest historical figures. The reason ppl are so shocked is cuz of the smear campaign that the Britishers went on for about 65 years.

[walle1999]

@Chinahahahahahahaha You are just bitter because where are the historical records? Show the proof not just quotes.

[Chinahahahahahahaha]

@walle1999

The proof is all around India!! It is your British attitude that is the problem! if I somehow proved that Ancient Indians walked on water, you would probably criticise us for not being able to swim!! What is with you aussies man?? How can you hate someone/something SO MUCH??? Considering we haven't done anything to you guys.....

[walle1999]

@Chinahahahahahahaha All these quotes are from people in the 20th century, where is the historical reference to that? nearly all of them were from the colonial era, its like discovering australia for the first time and writing about how vast and vibrant the landscape it, ZERO historical significance. And also Indians... your massive population couldn't dare to revolt against the brits on a 200 : 1 ratio. Pitiful

[walle1999]

@Chinahahahahahahaha Chinese philosophies stood through time and against the elements for over 5000 years, even through the first emperor of China's great book burning, erasing much of the ideologies and thoughts of the period of the hundred schools.

[Chinahahahahahahaha]

@walle1999

Same can be said of the ancient vedic scriptures. There are many sages, scientists, indologists and historians who claim that India existed even before the cataclysm that occurred 50000 years ago.... they claim that India's civilization is a 100000 years old!

[Chinahahahahahahaha]

@walle1999

Where can we look for sages like those whose systems of philosophy were prototypes of those of Greece: to whose works Plato, Thales and Pythagorus were disciples? Where do I find astronomers whose knowledge of planetary systems yet excites wonder in Europe as well as the architects and sculptors whose works claim our admiration, and the musicians who could make the mind oscillate from joy to sorrow, from tears to smile with the change of modes and varied intonation?

Cnl James Todd

[Chinahahahahahahaha]

@walle1999

I am convinced that everything has come down to us from the banks of the Ganges, - astronomy, astrology, metempsychosis,.. It is very important to note that some 2,500 years ago at the least Pythagoras went from Samos to the Ganges to learn geometry...But he would certainly not have undertaken such a strange journey had the reputation of the Brahmins' science not been long established in Europe...

- Francois Marie Arouet Voltaire (French writer and philosopher)

[Chinahahahahahahaha]

@walle1999

Whatever sphere of the human mind you may select for your special study, whether it be language, or religion, or mythology, or philosophy, whether it be law or customs, primitive art or primitive science, everywhere you have to go to India, whether you like it or not, because some of the most valuable and instructive materials of the history of man are treasured up in India and India only.

- Friedrich Maximilian Mueller ( German philologist )

[Chinahahahahahahaha]

@walle1999

Indeed, if I may be allowed the anachronism, the Hindus were Spinozites more than two thousand years before the existence of Spinoza; and Darwinians may centuries before Darwin; and evolutionists many centuries before the doctrine of evolution had been accepted by the scientists of our time, and before any word like 'evolution' existed in any language of the world.

- Sir Monier Monier-Williams (British Indologist)

[Chinahahahahahahaha]

@walle1999

India is the one land that all men desire to see, and having seen once, by even a glimpse, would not give that glimpse for the shows of all the rest of the world combined.

- Mark Twain

[depp8444]

HEY!! Paid Commie trolls....go back to your shoe factory!!!!

[hkrainman]

Gordon Chang is a typical mogroul Eurasian looks trying to establish his Euro/American identity via China bashing... dumb piece of Dog Shxt!

[obsidianstatue]

when the moral of americans are low they listen to gordan chang's rhetoric just to make themselves feel better.

[twenlil]

A disgrace to his own race.

[riverjw]

What a idiot Chang is!

[orionpirates]

Gordon Chang is racist against Chinese people.

[timlin0607]

What an uneducated fool.

Only 2.8% of goods consumed in the U.S. is made in China. China has been been transforming slowly for the past 2-3 decades and its new group of leaders understand the importance of the slow approach to change.

[ZR1Terror]

Wow this guy knows his shit!! I think China is moving too fast that it will collapse soon. I also think that if the military decides to attack the USA they will get slammed like Japan.

[everlastingbio]

Hi Dear Dr Chang, why hasn't China's economy collaspe yet?

[brtshstel]

At least it's nice to see a guy doesn't blame the "corrupt conservative administration" or the "socialist liberal administration" as an easy answer to the problem, but rather says it's a bipartisan problem that both Bush and Obama are responsible for.

[666AmericanFreedom]

Only in America can a piece of crap like Gordan Change who has been wrong again and again about China still employed!

[CHUUMPASS]

President Obama needs to thoroughly study the Reagan era and how President Reagan dealt with the soviet union and then adjust it to today`s circumstances and apply that when it comes to dealing with china. the overriding motto to start out is "trust, but verify!"

[Allawahguy]

This idiot predicted back in 2001 book that China's economy would collapse by 2006. It's now 2011 and the Chinese economy is now three times as large as it was back in 2001. Despite all this, the western media still treats him seriously as a so-called "China expert". Our media really is very free and fair isn't it?

[Donald6899]

Gordon Chang, I read your stupid book. You are so damn stupid!! Stay clear if this idiot.

[gokusays]

@raininthesouth:

Wow, your comments show how little you understand China. Typical stupid and uneducated piping based on an education coming straight from the media. Perhaps you should "ask" the average Chinese citizen and see how they feel about their government. Last polls show over 80% of its citizens view their government favorably, unlike the 30% for the US. When a government lifts over 300 million peasants out of poverty, the last they are inclined to do is "fight". Get it?

[CHUUMPASS]

@gokusays the problem with "your numbers" is, that chinese peasants neither have the means to multi-source their information nor are the allowed to openly express any negative sentiments towards the chinese leadership, so are you really that delusional to actually believe what you and all the other china-wankers post with all your "go china , and can't wait til the USA finally goes down" i hope you are just someone that receives money from the central chinese party to spread propaganda, :)

[TheBrolit]

@CHUUMPASS That's what you think ;)

[CHUUMPASS]

@TheBrolit yes, that is indeed what i think, and for multiple good reasons and hard facts i actually do so !!

[TheBrolit]

@CHUUMPASS Translation from the word "facts" is probably "opinion".

[CHUUMPASS]

@TheBrolit no the translation is indeed facts, at least as close as can be to facts, because if you want to go there and twist meanings, then what qualifies as fact at all, seriously, the signs speak for themselves to qualify as facts.

[raininthesouth]

@gokusays 80%? Where did you get that number from? CCP? I have spoken to the Chinese living here in U.S. They all think the 80% approval rating is a joke. Even people in China think it's a joke. I read online articles making fun of that figure. Only someone like you would believe something so ridiculous.

[AntiDefm]

@raininthesouth 80% a joke?! Don't be ignorant!

Since the human being has kept the economic data, there is no country in this world has achieved the economic growth that China has achieved in the past 30 years.

The whole world has lots to learn from China as Joseph Stigitz has suggested. Even Paul Samuelson has shamelessly claimed that the "free trade", the cornerstone of capitalism, is no longer in the best interest of the US. What a shame, LOL!

[raininthesouth]

@AntiDefm Uhh.... Can you even read Chinese?  No offense but you really should learn Chinese if you want to know what's really going on in China.

[AntiDefm]

@raininthesouth What "read Chinese" to do with this?!

Does this guy "Gordon Chang" know how to read Chinese?! Gordon Chang is a failure because he couldn't put China in prospective, not because whether he could read or couldn't Chinese.

His 2001 book "The Coming Collapse of China" predicted that China world collapse in 2006. But 2006 came and went with China only growing strong and stronger.

It is the US propaganda machines need people like Gordon Chang to make living by bashing China.

[raininthesouth]

@AntiDefm Oh I don't think China's going to collapse. It's just a lawless and chaotic society, that's all. They can knock your house down in the middle of the night if they want to. They still harvest organs from prisoners before they are pronounced dead. A Chinese doctor told me she removed the beating heart from a prisoner who was just shot. Those of us who know China have one advice to give to those who don't. Stay the hell out of China if you can. Go at your own risk.

[AntiDefm]

@raininthesouth You sound like "sock puppet". They did start to hire foreign personnel, didn't they?! You puppets shouldn't repeat the cheap propaganda over and over again. Tell your "puppet master" that doesn't work, even Hillary Clinton said you guys are out of touch, LOL!

A typical example is "Human organ harvest". You don't know the US has tried to legalize the market for human organ harvest and trafficking for years, and what happening in UCLA hospital and how bad in New York City?! LOL!

[Phead128]

Chinese are seeing China doing well, and see Americans doing not so well.

A revolution in China will just simply give America a free pass or second chance....

If Chinese wait long enough, America will eventually concede de-facto hegemony of East Asia to China by 2020, without China doing a single ounce of work.

America has gotten herself in a deep mess, and the world knows this.

[Terrapinfan2007]

Chang is feeding Americans hot air, and deceiving them at the same time.

Chang is chinese and he works for Hu Jintao and company!

[AntiDefm]

@Terrapinfan2007 LOL! Chang's pocket must be full of RMB. So does Obama's pocket! Both of them are working for China!

Do you believe that?! LOL!

What an idiot!

[Tippersnore]

Nevertheless, Chang wrote his Coming Collapse of China about 12 years ago. Everyone wants his whore to feel good, but that's a long time in coming!

[Tekvicious]

@rufullofshitusa - That is a 50cent party response if I ever heard of one.

[Tekvicious]

Actually, Chang is correct. Most of you that are posting negatively towards Mr. Chang are either Chinese 'Wu Mao Dang' or misinformed and frightened Americans.

[obsidianstatue]

@Tekvicious generalizing people like that makes you look like an idiot =) everyone knows most thing gordon talk about are really bullshit.

[xxjjss]

20+ years, I heard you said "Coming Collapse of China", I'm afraid you would say the same way another 20+ years.

LoL

[MrsVegascrush]

wheres that chang from?? north korea???

or south korea??? WTFFFF :_((

[Elbottoo]

@MrsVegascrush Well apparently, he is half chinese. He obviously grew up being bullied cos he is halfblood and has come to hate his chinese blood./ roots.

[ztan7gy]

Chang, you are full of bullshit!

[karpetdawg123]

Is this before or after the collapse of the US.

[juliusariswang]

美国砖家也这德性，呵呵

[userkc2008]

This guy is full of shit.